From nobody Fri Mar 1 06:12:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F32130E8A for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 06:12:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hqBK7Ngg1Ii0 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 06:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA8B1130E79 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 06:12:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 06:12:11 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551449531; bh=DkA3vqjVfCq7iYrMbEdkrHSQg+tBtmoGmnm/H0EWi6E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rmPnotZm9zvxsmzSG+3rrHTy355Hyw+w1KjwbVHNmEcz/YFde5uLfuo7S2p6SMQVT qrGUS44uBLsUuBe6qhF1QA9M1LcVr7d2wm7D+Fdi8Puh6sESUXNYikUnI/VHIa7dPB Qv/sS/cFqZUSOe3/oNcN6Yola4KuX2GBCw+8/GTI= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Why InitialWindow = 14600? (#2491) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c793dbb6b50d_282a3fa50c4d45b8230341"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 14:12:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c793dbb6b50d_282a3fa50c4d45b8230341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That seems reasonable, I was only trying to add an explanation of how we ended up with 14600. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2491#issuecomment-468677348 ----==_mimepart_5c793dbb6b50d_282a3fa50c4d45b8230341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

That seems reasonable, I was only trying to add an explanation of how we ended up with 14600.

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@martinduke Did you mean 14520? 1472 as MSS seems too big if you assume MTU of 1500.

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@ghedo I was thinking IPv4. Perhaps we should make the value dependent on the IP version.

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I believe the goal is no more than 10 1500 byte packets, so it could be IP version dependent.

But TCP doesn't bother making it IP version dependent, so I'm leaning towards specifying 14720 with the rationale that TCP has 20 bytes of overhead vs UDP's 8 bytes.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fix #2491 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2494 -- Commit Summary -- * Limit Initial Window to 14720 bytes -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md (5) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2494.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2494.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Fix #2491

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If that's what we're doing for extensions that might show up before v2 does, then yes, that's fine.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Mar 4 07:23:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E084130FC7 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34x6mSIUIAhx for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2A8129441 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 07:23:35 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551713015; bh=iGr0M2/+JMh2PXVZxWw5T985E1HPc5lv0X2aDbrn5oo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YveurAhYfNKlt1KNH4bQ/Fp04mO9C8NSAxqpjE5OWBDewInG3fOmERA+Xdj2eqNrJ q/yHq30uXZA8HGbuJf32cU64m+efxsprviawYGmnAsKQQO9R0LVA201dHkfB0KBB+m VFgFIzlCWvHbAoIlV8Mm3vrQxxJytS7vD4FzcE2Q= From: Alessandro Ghedini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails (#2495) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7d42f75fbda_66f53fd0df6d45bc280339"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ghedo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 15:23:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7d42f75fbda_66f53fd0df6d45bc280339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PR #2314 added a requirement for end-points to terminate a connection if ALPN negotiation fails, but doesn't specify an error code for this situation. RFC7301 defines the `no_application_protocol` alert that must be used by TLS servers, so QUIC servers should probably use that as well. As for clients, RFC7301 doesn't specify a behaviour, but it also doesn't forbid use of `no_application_protocol` in clients, and it seems better if QUIC clients use the same error code as the servers. Proposed wording change is in #2483. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2495 ----==_mimepart_5c7d42f75fbda_66f53fd0df6d45bc280339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

PR #2314 added a requirement for end-points to terminate a connection if ALPN negotiation fails, but doesn't specify an error code for this situation.

RFC7301 defines the no_application_protocol alert that must be used by TLS servers, so QUIC servers should probably use that as well. As for clients, RFC7301 doesn't specify a behaviour, but it also doesn't forbid use of no_application_protocol in clients, and it seems better if QUIC clients use the same error code as the servers.

Proposed wording change is in #2483.

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@martinthomson ok, added error code, created issue (#2495) and sent email to the list.

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----==_mimepart_5c7d43ee8941f_1af63f7fcd2d45c45255bf-- From nobody Mon Mar 4 14:09:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B0D13110E for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 14:09:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CFPhdWpP1Qog for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 14:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 744FF1274D0 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2019 14:09:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 14:09:29 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551737369; bh=Ac7xYe7Bvyq3Ws+6XK3mHq777fP6nD95t9NhakAdgL8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Y+2rl50uiF+y+/t+g5IbXmcXXjsg181l1hGkxR5cC60kGLGgh9nGCXEJ+B1vXoFZ/ DcHCETHD08OtYLd5oI6lzRW7eby1IP0Y8mS7BcgFt0VODLWE5k+C8/tbWwBf7vNxRK tswmf6sG8sIywX62npuPmmMoVSulYzj59ZOd2xAM= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Ossification (#2496) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7da219a501e_54c43f8c9e2d45b46719c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2019 22:09:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7da219a501e_54c43f8c9e2d45b46719c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a long conversation happening in the mailing list about QUIC version number ossification: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic/?gbt=1&index=ytjKHacss9s3i3nualU2tbU9Jco I'm adding it here to bring in others and consider it on the agenda for a WG meeting. I won't try to summarize everyone's position from the thread. Given the status quo, it would be easy for someone to write a dumb middlebox that drops QUIC version > 1, or indeed version > 2. This appears to have happened with TLS v1.2. Given all of our effort to counter ossification, it would be tragic if we fell down on this rather simple hurdle. There is disagreement as whether obfuscation is valuable or not. Though I have no answers, I personally would like to explore a few questions: 1) Are there any changes to VN we can make to reduce the chance of ossification happening? 2) If ossification happens anyway, do we have strategy to do something to overcome it? 3) If we are going to end up with some more obscure mechanism, does it make sense to lock in on bytes 2-5 of every long header to be 0x00000001 in perpetuity? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2496 ----==_mimepart_5c7da219a501e_54c43f8c9e2d45b46719c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There is a long conversation happening in the mailing list about QUIC version number ossification:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic/?gbt=1&index=ytjKHacss9s3i3nualU2tbU9Jco
I'm adding it here to bring in others and consider it on the agenda for a WG meeting.

I won't try to summarize everyone's position from the thread. Given the status quo, it would be easy for someone to write a dumb middlebox that drops QUIC version > 1, or indeed version > 2. This appears to have happened with TLS v1.2. Given all of our effort to counter ossification, it would be tragic if we fell down on this rather simple hurdle.

There is disagreement as whether obfuscation is valuable or not. Though I have no answers, I personally would like to explore a few questions:

  1. Are there any changes to VN we can make to reduce the chance of ossification happening?
  2. If ossification happens anyway, do we have strategy to do something to overcome it?
  3. If we are going to end up with some more obscure mechanism, does it make sense to lock in on bytes 2-5 of every long header to be 0x00000001 in perpetuity?

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I believe UNEXPECTED_FRAME is the preferred type.

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Commit Summary

  • Change error code for DUPLICATE_PUSH

File Changes

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Yes, after thinking about it some more, an error is better. Otherwise it is a can if worms. Usually we hit peer with a hammer, so why not here?

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I originaly thought this is pointless. The registry key story both con= firms that it is pointless but also, along with TLS version history, that= it is a real concern.

So weak obfuscation will not work. Random values that are public will = not work. Genersted values that are easy to compute will not work.

I was thinking challenge response, which is the same as init packet en= cryption. But that is version specific.

There need to be a time or implementation complexity component like ke= y derivation.

But that is costly to the peers, but perhaps not too costly compared t= o handshake.

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Are there any changes to VN we can make to reduce the chance of ossifi= cation happening?

We only have obfuscation to protect the payload format of Initial pack= ets from ossification. Therefore, IMO the question is if we can have some= thing similar for the version number field, without making the protocol c= omplex.

As some have pointed out, using multiple version numbers on wire to de= signate "version 1" is one way to go. That would be sufficient as a prote= ction against middlebox vendors who try to use the version number field i= n some ways in negligence. I also think that that might be the only thing= that we can do without making the "version number obfuscation scheme" an= invariant.

We could do various things if we think that it is a good idea to make = the obfuscation scheme an invariant. For example, we could set the versio= n number field to a XOR value of the version number and four octets that = follow the DCIL/SCIL fields (i.e. version_number_field =3D version_= number XOR packet[6..9]). Such scheme would IMO require the middle= box vendors to actually consult the specification when they try to detect= the QUIC protocol version. In other words, it would be as reliable as th= e AES-based ossification scheme we use for Initial packet payload.

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The HTTP draft doesn't have any SETTINGS parameters with a maximum value, but QPACK does. I don't see any text in hpack sec. 4.2.5.1 or qpack sec 5 that explains what to do if we receive a parameter that exceeds the maximum parameter.

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Fixes #2487

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  • Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Mar 5 14:52:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF0B1310C5 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 14:52:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SmIGy946FCRH for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 14:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75BB51310A2 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 14:52:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 14:52:19 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551826339; bh=apbtS6TTXt48/81xD5Ztrt5oh3WF/dUFzbR2JSQsbPU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=lmGvc67BS2SabH7QtRAmpAxwN7/qw8uLOwPD0B9CPMHcTIhQLR61JX7IyDOr8+jyy bxwUouiinR4EO342bYRS6D97i8tdkl/p/RlUbS4Pjx6ZSYlt+rvRvj9Og5pR+PE1zc Y921IbBebp7+EfU9cwa8XgcDfSq/LM4clhrKJ7co= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large (#2499) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7efda3645a4_55b53f8883ad45bc8938d"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 22:52:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7efda3645a4_55b53f8883ad45bc8938d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This LGTM, but it will need chair approval eventually. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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This LGTM, but it will need chair approval eventually.

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@martinduke : Are you planning to incorporate feedback into the PR?

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Yes, sorry for the delay.

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----==_mimepart_5c7efef52cef8_69e03fd89ead45c4679cd-- From nobody Tue Mar 5 15:01:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1628013108C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:00:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EXxplw1Oi5ZA for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC797131106 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:00:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:00:55 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551826855; bh=IsmZbap1huKDLbuhxbLXGm680q3+d8od+YYeWL16YGU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gFrqir52jTuedUL81Pbv7C+AhpOYJ3Df7WojNTtAPAS16OzY+Chu4IHoSmDwon2b3 t4AqY+anYcNx3sWWz0bfOEpsoeZecBIyMIrXfjls949YW23ZgbUy5dfYPSPEvHmJLB kmxaFtyWhdkHJMbRWFO8trYz1Po+tM+qTDIAYM9M= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails (#2483) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7effa7c4eff_75283fb32f6d45bc1294e0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 23:00:59 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7effa7c4eff_75283fb32f6d45bc1294e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -1216,7 +1216,9 @@ negotiation. TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) {{!RFC7301}} to select an application protocol. Unless another mechanism is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for this purpose. When using ALPN, endpoints MUST abort a connection if an application This isn't within your change, but what does "abort" mean. Should this be "drop QUIC connection state"? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2483#pullrequestreview-210966700 ----==_mimepart_5c7effa7c4eff_75283fb32f6d45bc1294e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1216,7 +1216,9 @@ negotiation.  TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN)
 {{!RFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another mechanism is
 used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for this
 purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST abort a connection if an application

This isn't within your change, but what does "abort" mean. Should this be "drop QUIC connection state"?

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Good observation. This is another case where MALFORMED_FRAME is not appr= opriate.

I might reset the peer-initiated stream with HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED, which = would prompt the other end to close the connection HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STR= EAM.

An alternative is just CONNECTION_CLOSE with HTTP_GENERAL_PROTOCOL_ERROR= .

... or We could invoke the YAEC label :)

Whatever we decide, I think it needs documenting.

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[ci skip] From nobody Tue Mar 5 15:20:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484DE12F1AC for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:20:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8vFUFwjFh19E for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BDF41200D8 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:20:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:20:33 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551828033; bh=MEP2YFUWDykDPT1tdcHKgyhE0zNRhM5EonSsssaeL4M=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vS5clMYHlDLHf7Hkvx6wG7oGJrbt7ce8LN+KVnHsxOkK8MhhhyLZ0Qx3AVKQn5NVo jBTvFE5OYQxhC6Jt8KzjpUvUaq+ZaMq33QCH9EV1OKcEX0ThYwhqugvnlKGdNHvgY/ KliOjrfPFt83DRwmgKLQm+TSlRYSsiwf9wlRxUsA= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change error code for DUPLICATE_PUSH (#2497) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7f044172055_62cb3fad00ed45bc2766d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 23:20:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7f044172055_62cb3fad00ed45bc2766d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I actually prefer the wording in duplicate push section and wonder if we should port that to PUSH_PROMISE too -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I actually prefer the wording in duplicate push section and wonder if we should port that to PUSH_PROMISE too

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----==_mimepart_5c7f044172055_62cb3fad00ed45bc2766d2-- From nobody Tue Mar 5 15:38:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93B012F1A5 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:38:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WpMmHXhYE4az for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD6C1200D8 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 15:38:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:37:59 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551829079; bh=jDaFrmgAFwwt7q9TIoxWXoOz5zqUoXUr71/B411ytyw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=X79VpVyIJAxoIn9NQ+wT40xagqIULKeDqZsSjWz603ZK8agJ+v+gyKcbV3zoWpdA1 78suwIuISJ1LYagxgH4/DXUmhCFnjxyoptsljZIN6iZrmmBAIHcGYQ0kcq+I0RwOK9 dCl1eiO9IgMG0gYQxEBnIHP404LjqzuJmn2FpGeM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails (#2483) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7f085719845_40b43f9543ed45b41487f0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 23:38:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7f085719845_40b43f9543ed45b41487f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -1216,7 +1216,9 @@ negotiation. TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) {{!RFC7301}} to select an application protocol. Unless another mechanism is used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for this purpose. When using ALPN, endpoints MUST abort a connection if an application I think that an immediate close is what was intended. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2483#discussion_r262737348 ----==_mimepart_5c7f085719845_40b43f9543ed45b41487f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -1216,7 +1216,9 @@ negotiation.  TLS uses Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN)
 {{!RFC7301}} to select an application protocol.  Unless another mechanism is
 used for agreeing on an application protocol, endpoints MUST use ALPN for this
 purpose.  When using ALPN, endpoints MUST abort a connection if an application

I think that an immediate close is what was intended.

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What does "abort" mean? Perhaps change this to "drop QUIC connection state"?

Originally posted by @janaiyengar in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2483/files

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  • Define Error when Empty Bits != 0

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I don't see how this agrees with the field requirement that empty bits are ignored

Empty: A four-bit field which MUST be zero when sent and MUST be
ignored on receipt.

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Good point, I think it does.

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On PR #2499, @marten-seemann noted that this logic should apply to the equivalent transport param as well.

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----==_mimepart_5c7f15377d292_ae73fa5e06d45b4119399-- From nobody Tue Mar 5 19:01:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC279130DFA for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:01:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mvio2HOstfNp for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE68012F1AB for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:01:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 19:01:01 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551841261; bh=bixET3deGJQZV0zt6O8p+1+VwYFBrnAwqcTYYtSuA7k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=AwhQb83aKtImEkEtBeOwwbFx8rWKtmB2PyfuEr5p1lfs4v9UX64MFdTfuxfMWslI3 PK5wpvnVxYO42rMQEXQcLCTKJolDYW4wCJ2v+tII/u737Pvm0PTOwekgIz5zVRCnAn SexQpWKE9Lkl1XFh1B5OMDzQT6k//MNamTa1MfdM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large (#2499) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7f37ed95fb9_579b3fd76ced45bc248387"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 03:01:05 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7f37ed95fb9_579b3fd76ced45bc248387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -849,7 +849,10 @@ initial_stream_id_for_type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}). Initial limits are set in the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and subsequently limits are advertised using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to -unidirectional and bidirectional streams. +unidirectional and bidirectional streams. When a MAX_STREAMS frame is received +that permits more streams than can be expressed by the stream ID +(i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), the connection MUST be immediately closed with a I wonder if "greater than 2^60 - 1" is correct. 2^60 is a valid number to be carried by a MAX_STREAM frame. To avoid confusion (between number of streams and the maximum stream IDs), it might be a good idea to simply state something like: _When a MAX_STREAM frame carrying Maximum Streams greater than 2^60 is received, the connection MUST be ..._ -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2499#pullrequestreview-211024905 ----==_mimepart_5c7f37ed95fb9_579b3fd76ced45bc248387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -849,7 +849,10 @@ initial_stream_id_for_type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}).  Initial
 limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and subsequently limits are advertised
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
-unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
+unidirectional and bidirectional streams. When a MAX_STREAMS frame is received
+that permits more streams than can be expressed by the stream ID
+(i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), the connection MUST be immediately closed with a

I wonder if "greater than 2^60 - 1" is correct. 2^60 is a valid number to be carried by a MAX_STREAM frame.

To avoid confusion (between number of streams and the maximum stream IDs), it might be a good idea to simply state something like: When a MAX_STREAM frame carrying Maximum Streams greater than 2^60 is received, the connection MUST be ...

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This is an issue that never really resolved in Tokyo. It is #2355 that I was referring to. See also voluminous list discussion on the topic.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -849,7 +849,10 @@ initial_stream_id_for_type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}).  Initial
 limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and subsequently limits are advertised
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
-unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
+unidirectional and bidirectional streams. When a MAX_STREAMS frame is received
+that permits more streams than can be expressed by the stream ID
+(i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), the connection MUST be immediately closed with a

Yeah, I think that is better. Or "If a MAX_STREAMS carries a value of 2^60 or greater (which implies a maximum stream ID that cannot be expressed in the protocol), then the connection MUST ..."

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1478,6 +1478,10 @@ could pose a security risk to an incautious implementer.  An implementation MUST
 ensure that the length of a frame exactly matches the length of the fields it
 contains.
 
+The use of 0-RTT with HTTP/3 creates an exposure to replay attack.  The

Just a minor suggestion.
Is this really just an HTTP/3 issue?
The rest of the text refers to "the application protocol" which I believe is more correct.

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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1478,6 +1478,10 @@ could pose a security risk to an incautious implementer.  An implementation MUST
 ensure that the length of a frame exactly matches the length of the fields it
 contains.
 
+The use of 0-RTT with HTTP/3 creates an exposure to replay attack.  The

nevermind. I didn't notice this is in the http draft.
Looks good then.

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----==_mimepart_5c7f49a6de3c7_1cab3f8371ed45c023934c-- From nobody Tue Mar 5 20:17:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304D6130EA1 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:17:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AjGC6mk9FLNc for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-11.smtp.github.com (out-11.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC07130EAE for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:17:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2019 20:17:20 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551845840; bh=MigLv25QWHjfG4c7g3fcOp363UtUws1w3cik1be+90Q=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Cv8vX0wwzGkia4OXbl6H1erT3HGb5pnF4CGRbDRtBzCmzSMrHSD/8VoJ20FkxTIdb Hc0ChpblLXXszS/H6k06UP5Plsn5PLwYWSQnycHeir8vR6T/g9iZghkoyTmVR2WLLR SMMnjT9WUgRAiHKHvX4p0lu+Vu1PDdzRIbhdEms0= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow most frames in 0-RTT (#2355) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c7f49d06d516_5e9e3ffae0cd45b8363693"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 04:17:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c7f49d06d516_5e9e3ffae0cd45b8363693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > - PADDING frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level. +- CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption You can't really prevent implementations from sending CONNECTION_CLOSE in 0-RTT. How would the peer punish them for misbehaving, by closing the connection? So we might as well allow it and read the error code and error message. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2355#pullrequestreview-211037794 ----==_mimepart_5c7f49d06d516_5e9e3ffae0cd45b8363693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  - PADDING frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level.
 
+- CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption

You can't really prevent implementations from sending CONNECTION_CLOSE in 0-RTT. How would the peer punish them for misbehaving, by closing the connection? So we might as well allow it and read the error code and error message.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  - PADDING frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level.
 
+- CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption

The fear I have in allowing the CONNECTION_CLOSE frame to be sent in 0-RTT packet is that it might cause confusion among the people reading the specification.

Currently, an endpoint is expected to send a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame using a packet that it knows that the peer can decrypt (see https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-transport.html#rfc.section.10.3). I think we should retain that principle, and based on that principle, an endpoint would never be sending a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in a 0-RTT packet.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  - PADDING frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level.
 
+- CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption

On CONNECTION_CLOSE: There are cases why you might send possible not received messages with minimal overhead and close immediately. Like a sensor reading. This isn't really idempotent, but it might be good enough for the application. MQTT added the MQTT-SN variant that accepts single packet messages on UDP although technically the connection is still open.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  - PADDING frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level.
 
+- CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption

But there are other problems: I suppose you can't send multiple such messages without a new 0-RTT token. Maybe a use case for v2?

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

>  - PADDING frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption level.
 
+- CRYPTO and CONNECTION_CLOSE frames MAY appear in packets of any encryption

There is no reason to send CONNECTION_CLOSE in 0-RTT. CONNECTION_CLOSE has those rules (which need to be clarified, but they won't materially change), which I'd say are fine. During the handshake, implementations have to be specially aware of where CONNECTION_CLOSE lands, that's all.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +## Replay Attacks with 0-RTT
+
+As described in Section 8 of {{!TLS13}}, use of TLS early data comes with an
+exposure to replay attack.  The use of 0-RTT in QUIC is similarly vulnerable to
+replay attack.
+
+Endpoints MUST implement and use the replay protections described in {{!TLS13}},
+however it is recognized that these protections are imperfect.  Therefore,
+additional consideration of the risk of replay are needed.
+
+QUIC is not inherently vulnerable to replay attack.  The management of QUIC
+protocol state based on the frame types defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is not
+vulnerable to replay.  Processing of QUIC frames is idempotent and cannot result
+in invalid connection states if frames are reordered or lost.  QUIC connections
+do not produce effects that last beyond the lifetime of the connection, except
+for those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves.

I realize that I had typed a response to this, but didn't post it...

This change would be a mistake. TLS, like QUIC itself, is not the application protocol. While it is true that the effects of tickets and address validation tokens last beyond the connection (and this might have some implications for the text), they are not effects that an application needs to worry about.

I would prefer to add "TLS session tickets and address validation tokens might be carried between connections, but these mechanisms are distinct from application state and require independent protection against reuse." Or something to that effect.

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Technically, you can't reset a peer-initiated stream, just STOP_SENDING.

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I like Martin's wording, but I'm okay with this change.

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Just a reminder that this shouldn't land without fixing the transport parameter.

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That's an astute observation and something I've missed. Perhaps I'm mi= ssing it but the spec doesn't say how to handle a STOP_SENDING received o= n a control stream. Should this peer issue a RESET_STREAM in response (ca= using the other peer to blow up) or should it just close the connection i= tself?

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Proposed shortening of replay section

Replay Attacks with 0-RTT

As described in Section 8 of {{!TLS13}}, use of TLS early data comes w= ith an
exposure to replay attack. The use of 0-RTT in QUIC is similarly vulnera= ble to
replay attack.

Endpoints MUST implement and use the replay protections described in {= {!TLS13}},
however it is recognized that these protections are imperfect. Therefore= ,
additional consideration of the risk of replay are needed.

The QUIC transport protocol is not vulnerable to replay attacks and do= es
tolerate replayed frames because all frames are idempotent and because no state is carried across connections.

Applications might carry state across connections and can be confused = by
STREAM frame content under 0-RTT keys and also by other content such as flow control credits. Servers can be configured to reject old 0-RTT
packets but it is not perfect nor guaranteed. Only application protocols<= br> can define semantics that are acceptable for 0-RTT sessions, if any.

A copied 0-RTT session is cheap to establish and can be exploited to expend excessive server resources. Applications MUST account for this
= overhead before accepting 0-RTT connections.

QUIC extensions SHOULD describe how replay attacks affect their
operation. Applications MUST prohibit extensions where efficient
replay mitigation strategies cannot be provided.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c80620bd925_68f33fd05fed45bc3136f4-- From nobody Wed Mar 6 16:56:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC891312A3 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 16:56:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CoDfoJZ4xrEY for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 16:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52BB113129E for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 16:56:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 16:56:40 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551920200; bh=2eyHvOApj0JVTDNUhB1g0WPODjfhLztXW74ZkHrBn7s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vrgycg3QZKvnoqKDsZEyYq3mUkAvbvUvZGi2zAuol6YF2LvomWmpS5KZIBTRrREvX lSBFhhIRyI3iLCibgD114k/Ii1bp3Ls7n6EfeLACz8rOl6bKkU+Q/8nEmtBU8/BR5Q Nu/JcqC10OgyijZhSbHzrcmPZSp34/q6Y8W3+Vr8= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large (#2499) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c806c4838a98_48903fa24f8d45c44830c7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 00:56:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c806c4838a98_48903fa24f8d45c44830c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kazuho commented on this pull request. > @@ -849,7 +849,10 @@ initial_stream_id_for_type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}). Initial limits are set in the transport parameters (see {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and subsequently limits are advertised using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to -unidirectional and bidirectional streams. +unidirectional and bidirectional streams. When a MAX_STREAMS frame is received +that permits more streams than can be expressed by the stream ID +(i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), the connection MUST be immediately closed with a @martinthomson's text looks fine with one exception: s/a value of 2^60 or greater/a value greater than 2^60/. 2^60 is a valid number to be carried by MAX_STREAMS. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2499#discussion_r263200434 ----==_mimepart_5c806c4838a98_48903fa24f8d45c44830c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -849,7 +849,10 @@ initial_stream_id_for_type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}).  Initial
 limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and subsequently limits are advertised
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
-unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
+unidirectional and bidirectional streams. When a MAX_STREAMS frame is received
+that permits more streams than can be expressed by the stream ID
+(i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), the connection MUST be immediately closed with a

@martinthomson's text looks fine with one exception: s/a value of 2^60 or greater/a value greater than 2^60/.

2^60 is a valid number to be carried by MAX_STREAMS.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -849,7 +849,10 @@ initial_stream_id_for_type) can be opened (see {{long-packet-types}}).  Initial
 limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 {{transport-parameter-definitions}}) and subsequently limits are advertised
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
-unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
+unidirectional and bidirectional streams. When a MAX_STREAMS frame is received
+that permits more streams than can be expressed by the stream ID
+(i.e. greater than 2^60 - 1), the connection MUST be immediately closed with a

Yep, my bad. Fence-post error on my part.

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My =F0=9F=91=8D goes to making the change, though I would like to confirm that i= t wouldn't be illegal for a client to close the connection with no_= application_protocol error after it sends ClientFinished.=

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I ask this because depending on the design of the TLS stack, the QUIC = stack might not be able to see the result of ALPN before the TLS stack ge= nerates a ClientFinished (note that EE.ALPN and ServerFinished might arri= ve in one packet).

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It's my understanding that the intent of the issue is to not allow the= client to send any application data on ALPN failure. Assuming that's tru= e, sending the alert after ClientFinished should be fine.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Mar 6 17:41:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A141312C4 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 17:41:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IpINMK2vuA5o for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 17:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 894E71312BB for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 17:41:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2019 17:41:25 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551922885; bh=1qX9aTLFh3bo3R1KM76Mprj/KoT0rUwStguJU32dMbo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LPTO2VuL8aVwtZHk84HTuyNz2EM5/HUUyJRecvHkzp5KXl7RpcZKaxtrA3u9SyXhj P17TVyyoLQUXBzBNvQkkrAI/y0V1yZl2GiNZ9i3uyT3cb3OXjji5kgfr49qWfeZcOE 7CVt0MbvIcJcVpDP7Otp2w0eeE7AIyYTgaPaiP/I= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify what to do when ALPN negotiation fails (#2495) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8076c5acf21_9b73f80940d45b84187e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 01:41:28 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8076c5acf21_9b73f80940d45b84187e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I think that would be fine. I don't think that we would be able to guarantee that the alert goes out before sending ClientFinished either. It's certainly possible, but I can see how it might be tricky. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2495#issuecomment-470348543 ----==_mimepart_5c8076c5acf21_9b73f80940d45b84187e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, I think that would be fine. I don't think that we would be able to guarantee that the alert goes out before sending ClientFinished either. It's certainly possible, but I can see how it might be tricky.

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My understanding is that STOP_SENDING is an act of closing a stream rather than an advisory signal.
Based on that, I'd argue that receipt of STOP_SENDING on a critical stream should trigger a HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM connection-level error.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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I=E2=80=99m not sure 0-RTT server cost is higher, except relative to t= he client?

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Context: trying to re-create the concept of exclusive prioritization (which was removed from h3 a while ago). Approach: simulate exclusivity by sending new PRIORITY frames on the control stream for all the streams we want to be dependent on a new request stream. Example: ``` A B C 1 1 1 | | \ | 2 2 3 3 | 2 ``` Step A: stream 1 and 2 are opened in sequence with priority frame as first frame of their stream Step B: stream 3 is opened with priority frame as first frame Step C: we have sent a priority frame on the control stream for stream 2, updating its dependency to stream 3 (In http/2, step B and C would be the same due to exclusivity, in h3 we need step C to simulate this). The question: **What happens if the priority frame from step C arrives before stream 3 is opened? We then have a priority update for stream 2, making it dependent on stream 3, which does not exist yet (at least at the receiving endpoint).** There are various points in the text that might lead to an interpretation of this, but none really reference this exact situation (afaict). e.g., > A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as an HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED error. Here, stream 3 is certainly "permitted to open" > A reference to an element which is no longer in the tree is treated as a reference to the root of the tree. "no longer" != "not yet" If this is the current intended behavior here though, I would suggest to change it to allow the use case above. > Due to reordering between streams, an element can also be prioritized which is not yet in the tree. Such elements are added to the tree with the requested priority. This one reads a bit weird to me... I assume it is talking about the case where you don't send an initial priority frame on the request stream itself, but rather only on the control stream, and that can arrive before the request stream itself. In this case I assume the priority frame is buffered until the stream is opened. This *could* be read to also apply to my situation above, but if that's the case I would make it a bit more explicit. If that's not the case, I would change it to something like "Due to reordering between the control stream and request streams, ..." ___ If I'm not missing something and this case is indeed not yet handled in the text, we might add something like "If a priority frame references a request stream that is permitted to be opened but which has not yet been opened, the priority frame MUST be applied once the referenced request stream becomes opened." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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There is a specific prioritization situation which to my interpretation isn't fully clear in the draft-18 text.

Context: trying to re-create the concept of exclusive prioritization (which was removed from h3 a while ago).
Approach: simulate exclusivity by sending new PRIORITY frames on the control stream for all the streams we want to be dependent on a new request stream.

Example:

A                      B                         C
1                      1                         1   
|                     |  \                       |
2                     2   3                      3
                                                 |
                                                 2

Step A: stream 1 and 2 are opened in sequence with priority frame as first frame of their stream
Step B: stream 3 is opened with priority frame as first frame
Step C: we have sent a priority frame on the control stream for stream 2, updating its dependency to stream 3

(In http/2, step B and C would be the same due to exclusivity, in h3 we need step C to simulate this).

The question:

What happens if the priority frame from step C arrives before stream 3 is opened? We then have a priority update for stream 2, making it dependent on stream 3, which does not exist yet (at least at the receiving endpoint).

There are various points in the text that might lead to an interpretation of this, but none really reference this exact situation (afaict).

e.g.,

A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a
Placeholder ID greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the
client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as an
HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED error.

Here, stream 3 is certainly "permitted to open"

A reference to an element which
is no longer in the tree is treated as a reference to the root of the
tree.

"no longer" != "not yet"
If this is the current intended behavior here though, I would suggest to change it to allow the use case above.

Due to reordering between streams, an element can also be prioritized
which is not yet in the tree. Such elements are added to the tree
with the requested priority.

This one reads a bit weird to me... I assume it is talking about the case where you don't send an initial priority frame on the request stream itself, but rather only on the control stream, and that can arrive before the request stream itself. In this case I assume the priority frame is buffered until the stream is opened.

This could be read to also apply to my situation above, but if that's the case I would make it a bit more explicit. If that's not the case, I would change it to something like "Due to reordering between the control stream and request streams, ..."

If I'm not missing something and this case is indeed not yet handled in the text, we might add something like "If a priority frame references a request stream that is permitted to be opened but which has not yet been opened, the priority frame MUST be applied once the referenced request stream becomes opened."

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Wouldn't it be safer to still discard initial/handshake keys after some time? I'm worried that if an implementation blindly follows what another implementation is doing the keys might never be retired.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

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To be precise, STOP_SENDING "typically indicates that the receivin= g application is no longer reading data it receives from the stream,= but it is not a guarantee that incoming data will be ignored" (transport daft section 3.5).

Because there is a chance of it indicating that the peer is no longer = reading, STOP_SENDING received on a critical stream ought to trigger a HT= TP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM error.

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Wouldn't it be safer to still discard initial/handshake keys after som= e time?

I can see that argument for Initial keys. At the moment, we require en= dpoints to drop the Initial keys at the earliest moments. There's a trade= -off between relying on an explicit signal (that might get missed) vs. ha= ving a uniform way of retiring keys.

OTOH, I think we should solely rely on an explicit signal for dropping= handshake keys. There is no risk in keeping the key forever (because onl= y the peer can send Handshake packets that successfully validates), and b= ecause there is a tail.

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QUIC connections do not +produce effects that last beyond the lifetime of the connection, except for +those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves. + +Note: + +: TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC + configuration information between connections. These MUST NOT be used to + carry application state. The potential for reuse of these tokens means that + they require stronger protections against replay. + +A server that accepts 0-RTT on a connection incurs a higher cost than accepting +a connection without 0-RTT. This includes higher processing and computation +costs. Servers need to consider the probability of replay and all associated +costs when accepting 0-RTT. Your point being that a client can keep their costs low? That's not relevant here. What matters is what the server spends relative to other connections. 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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +Processing of QUIC frames is idempotent and cannot result in invalid connection
+states if frames are replayed, reordered or lost.  QUIC connections do not
+produce effects that last beyond the lifetime of the connection, except for
+those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves.
+
+Note:
+
+: TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC
+  configuration information between connections.  These MUST NOT be used to
+  carry application state.  The potential for reuse of these tokens means that
+  they require stronger protections against replay.
+
+A server that accepts 0-RTT on a connection incurs a higher cost than accepting
+a connection without 0-RTT.  This includes higher processing and computation
+costs.  Servers need to consider the probability of replay and all associated
+costs when accepting 0-RTT.

Your point being that a client can keep their costs low? That's not relevant here. What matters is what the server spends relative to other connections.

Keep in mind that a client can replay a ClientHello to a server and have it do the work of connection establishment (which is considerable in terms of computation). The delta for 0-RTT is all the processing that might be triggered by the replayed 0-RTT packets, which might mean buffering or application-level actions. If that work is significant, and it could be, then you have an exposure. Add the relatively negligible work of accepting packets and decrypting them if you must.

In terms of outright expense to a server, it is entirely possible that spamming bogus ClientHello messages (which don't even need valid key shares, possibly not even valid anything) could more effective than spamming 0-RTT.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> +Processing of QUIC frames is idempotent and cannot result in invalid connection
+states if frames are replayed, reordered or lost.  QUIC connections do not
+produce effects that last beyond the lifetime of the connection, except for
+those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves.
+
+Note:
+
+: TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC
+  configuration information between connections.  These MUST NOT be used to
+  carry application state.  The potential for reuse of these tokens means that
+  they require stronger protections against replay.
+
+A server that accepts 0-RTT on a connection incurs a higher cost than accepting
+a connection without 0-RTT.  This includes higher processing and computation
+costs.  Servers need to consider the probability of replay and all associated
+costs when accepting 0-RTT.

With that argument a client might as well use 1-RTT connections and make the server pay for Diffie-Helmann exchanges in addition to buffering. What makes 0-RTT costly is the ease with which the server can be made to pay that cost. 0-RTT is expensive because it is cheap for the client to incur th expense on the server.

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----==_mimepart_5c8190fceb902_16f93fad5c4d45c433964-- From nobody Thu Mar 7 13:46:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8945E1311B0 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 13:46:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RKgK4I4eI3n7 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94E6F1311A7 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 13:46:15 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551995175; bh=25iutFnHLGSyh56Yo9ilq5yqmH1Z9VVEnfyk94ZvTtE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=je0mccC9XYiHJRMjf64i28e9h3QT6dXZjp1SmesPAbY8EiFgI8QburkVZ1AYJBvcl 1T644NV7oU7cnWqZ5zrhxeVCyIa2iPVPx/tZSqBcjv725RIPaKDQ+jxKfEg6NpEy1I FurfcgnTMTN8Ofm1X1PHwD7pKIYwcu4bmOKiJJlU= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PRIORITY frame on control stream referencing unopened request stream (#2502) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c81912792ec3_ffd3fc09f6d45bc359388"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 21:46:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c81912792ec3_ffd3fc09f6d45bc359388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe this has been addressed in the changes that removed the exclusive dependencies: see PR #2075. The draft (version 18) states: ``` If, by the time a new request stream is opened, its priority information has already been received via the control stream, the PRIORITY frame sent on the request stream MUST be ignored. ``` This answers your question, which is > What happens if the priority frame from step C arrives before stream 3 is opened? We then have a priority update for stream 2, making it dependent on stream 3, which does not exist yet (at least at the receiving endpoint). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2502#issuecomment-470707450 ----==_mimepart_5c81912792ec3_ffd3fc09f6d45bc359388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I believe this has been addressed in the changes that removed the excl= usive dependencies: see PR #2075. The draft (version 18) s= tates:

   If, by the time a new request stream is opened, its priorit=
y
   information has already been received via the control stream, the
   PRIORITY frame sent on the request stream MUST be ignored.

This answers your question, which is

What happens if the priority frame from step C arrives before stream 3= is opened? We then have a priority update for stream 2, making it depend= ent on stream 3, which does not exist yet (at least at the receiving endp= oint).

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Would it be problematic to actually update the logical priority tree?

From a DATA frame handling perspective, I'd be unable to serve data for = node 3 (because I don't know what the request is). That seems like= the same classification, unable to make progress, as defined in RFC 7540:<= /p>

inside the dependency tree, a dependent stream SHOULD only be
allocated resources if either all of the streams that it depends on
(the chain of parent streams up to 0x0) are closed or it is not
possible to make progress on them.

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No, it's not problematic -- just requires a bit of coding.

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----==_mimepart_5c81942cc137a_2623fd2ee2d45b4212088-- From nobody Thu Mar 7 14:03:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C73130FF3 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:03:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5UaBVD1t0BDY for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15C1D1275E9 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:03:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 14:03:03 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551996183; bh=W9tkD2GKL7HQ+n+MU6+CxKaYK9z26fboDHNxABins18=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=LRQrLfIQb3b2SP2vEaHkq0dTZknwSkBItXTN7VFIAJvz7ASBJhd7htKJ8M4vilp5J rlbdv4n/AMeS6EceG7bop7YLp21X7sXW+UI0RBwtih07FL+rhKUFIhP7BHzYT1WdyB EA06FplisKs8FNOAmOrovk40QF4ycB7MFwzjZ1dc= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PRIORITY frame on control stream referencing unopened request stream (#2502) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c81951773d0_4a2b3fb7936d45b81106f3"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:03:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c81951773d0_4a2b3fb7936d45b81106f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this case is different to what you quote @dtikhonov. This is about prioritisation of 2 onto 3 before 3 exists. Not reprioritisation of 3 before it exists. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2502#issuecomment-470713368 ----==_mimepart_5c81951773d0_4a2b3fb7936d45b81106f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I think this case is different to what you quote @dtikhonov. This is about prioritisation of 2 onto 3 before 3 exists. Not reprioritisation of 3 before it exists.

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----==_mimepart_5c81951773d0_4a2b3fb7936d45b81106f3-- From nobody Thu Mar 7 14:15:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F46F130E3F for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cBGaDnAlhdAj for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 694CD1275E9 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:15:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 14:15:19 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551996919; bh=JqVRsN1g5W2b2R4LO28qwtRV5WiSfZxlj7zX4Fk3Pkc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yo34ajUTegrGU5Rcd58AB2dxB8nxFEQAJCaKqzFgIG2w5FERBleJnubC/ZQ6+y5EO sji6zpHF5Xt06gx4rkU1E5s5maNxHtna4OtYMmWl8cUlE+yD5mge9cok6tmsqkZ7ZP fBubeQbB5EGYGV6PxtgDOR8MIWsjCohEzgJ5qtlk= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PRIORITY frame on control stream referencing unopened request stream (#2502) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8197f73c4de_4b353f9e9e4d45b4200146"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:15:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8197f73c4de_4b353f9e9e4d45b4200146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This is about prioritisation of 2 onto 3 before 3 exists. Not reprioritisation of 3 before it exists. Oh, you're right, @LPardue. Nevertheless, there is still no problem. As @rmarx points out: ``` Due to reordering between streams, an element can also be prioritized which is not yet in the tree. Such elements are added to the tree with the requested priority. ``` So just record the information in the priority tree and wait for the stream to be opened. There is no need to buffer this _PRIORITY_ frame. At least, I don't see this need mandated by anything in the draft. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2502#issuecomment-470717972 ----==_mimepart_5c8197f73c4de_4b353f9e9e4d45b4200146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is about prioritisation of 2 onto 3 before 3 exists. Not repriori= tisation of 3 before it exists.

Oh, you're right, @LPardue. Nevertheless, there is still no = problem. As @rmarx points out:

   Due to reordering between streams, an element can also be p=
rioritized
   which is not yet in the tree.  Such elements are added to the tree
   with the requested priority.

So just record the information in the priority tree and wait for the s= tream to be opened. There is no need to buffer this PRIORITY fr= ame. At least, I don't see this need mandated by anything in the draft.<= /p>

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I think we agree. My first post got received behind your first :)

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----==_mimepart_5c8198ea47ad2_6cbe3fd6194d45c02192d1-- From nobody Thu Mar 7 14:19:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3737130DE6 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:19:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ggepVGTmHMG for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 134491275E9 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 14:19:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 14:19:48 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1551997188; bh=KDLtDyO/jDVpuWPIK6STn/XOtUvNf9C62fBbGr7D60k=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=d/SzFpGAVweNB3z4YHMuoBSvMjiwcZ27v/CcM6r1O2+13A67Ci+firxF4BmaYNaAP LQrMSVi5xFE7OQG8Apiik6ioBfFOx2kP2HyReaoz10EophRol45fnrhWT+YB9xKVSe dz2zUm6SBesA2bqlrW9mbr0O5mBcPEf9nDwNGb1s= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large (#2499) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c819904a2e9_4643fd6230d45c42243aa"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 22:19:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c819904a2e9_4643fd6230d45c42243aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson commented on this pull request. > @@ -851,6 +851,11 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to unidirectional and bidirectional streams. +If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame carries a value +greater than 2^60, which implies a maximum stream ID that cannot be expressed, I don't think that we need to say this. It's strictly more correct, but the extra words only obscure the meaning. Isn't it obvious that we're only talking about QUIC? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2499#discussion_r263593745 ----==_mimepart_5c819904a2e9_4643fd6230d45c42243aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,11 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame carries a value
+greater than 2^60, which implies a maximum stream ID that cannot be expressed,

I don't think that we need to say this. It's strictly more correct, but the extra words only obscure the meaning. Isn't it obvious that we're only talking about QUIC?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,11 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame carries a value
+greater than 2^60, which implies a maximum stream ID that cannot be expressed,

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Separate limits apply to unidirectional and bidirectional streams. +If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame carries a value +greater than 2^60, which implies a maximum stream ID that cannot be expressed, My addition was (perhaps poorly) trying to articulate the difference between expressing it in transport params/MAX_STREAMS vs. in other frames. Saying that it's not expressible isn't accurate -- it was "expressed" when we received it -- what we want to say is that it's not expressible in other frames, specifically as a varint. Maybe what I should have suggested is "cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}})." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2499#discussion_r263616643 ----==_mimepart_5c81ac55adabd_505e3f8e8a8d45c0687c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@janaiyengar commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,11 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame carries a value
+greater than 2^60, which implies a maximum stream ID that cannot be expressed,

My addition was (perhaps poorly) trying to articulate the difference between expressing it in transport params/MAX_STREAMS vs. in other frames. Saying that it's not expressible isn't accurate -- it was "expressed" when we received it -- what we want to say is that it's not expressible in other frames, specifically as a varint.

Maybe what I should have suggested is
"cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}})."

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[ci skip] From nobody Thu Mar 7 17:50:15 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD621311CE for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:50:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VLtmyA3kq8ca for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60E3B1310FF for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2019 17:50:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2019 17:50:11 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552009811; bh=O26mqf20/HTKqTWxvsLZjDL7LccPMdkVxtZiD2gq/jQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MJQIfUqVJn5I2DMH8XIm1dtbOSu3H9Ys/ZbdBqY/c7ku5QgnvC4MTbefgPBCGNdHh wCp9du85z4nZkjt6dTtrj3HeeFHufMNuDJ72Ngvg2fMIrGnZTMauJsppHqn6uZNq+V fYQhxqErhe8osqQuABN9LiFtNFGJSDiuOcqs26yI= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Suggestion for #2499 (#2503) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c81ca534afba_38f23f8e782d45c445735"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 01:50:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c81ca534afba_38f23f8e782d45c445735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit marten-seemann commented on this pull request. > @@ -851,11 +852,10 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to unidirectional and bidirectional streams. -If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a -value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be -expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}). -If either is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with a -connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}). +A max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is invalid if it has a +value greater than 2^60, which would allow for an invalid maximum stream ID. It's not a maximum stream ID, it's just a stream ID that's larger than the maximum. > @@ -851,11 +852,10 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to unidirectional and bidirectional streams. -If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a -value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be -expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}). -If either is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with a -connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}). +A max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is invalid if it has a +value greater than 2^60, which would allow for an invalid maximum stream ID. +If an invalid value is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with Nit: I don't think we need an "immediately" here. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,11 +852,10 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
-If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
-value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
-expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).
-If either is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with a
-connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}).
+A max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is invalid if it has a
+value greater than 2^60, which would allow for an invalid maximum stream ID.

It's not a maximum stream ID, it's just a stream ID that's larger than the maximum.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,11 +852,10 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
-If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
-value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
-expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).
-If either is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with a
-connection error of type STREAM_LIMIT_ERROR (see {{immediate-close}}).
+A max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is invalid if it has a
+value greater than 2^60, which would allow for an invalid maximum stream ID.
+If an invalid value is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with

Nit: I don't think we need an "immediately" here.

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This PR is yet another attempt to r= esolve #2214, along with #2237 and #2492. The principle behind the PR is to align the design of key = updates to other parts of the protocol as much as possible, by reusing th= e design pattern we use to communicate the maximums.

  • Does not change how the Initial keys are dropped.
  • Introduce a MAX_KEY_UPDATES frame, that is similar to existing MAX_* = frames.
    • The frame carries explicitly the cumulative number of key-updates bei= ng permitted.
    • No special retransmission rules are required, because the maximum num= ber is carried as a field within the frame.
  • Initial exchange of MAX_KEY_UPDATES frame indicates the completion of= the handshake.
    • Disposal of 0-RTT and Handshake keys are negotiated using the frame.<= /li>
  • MAX_KEY_UPDATES carrying a maximum count of zero indicates the peer t= hat handshake is complete, but key update is prohibited.
    • I think that this is the direction we are heading to. All the three p= roposals use explicit signal to communicate the disposal of the keys, whi= ch in turn means that the key-update can be forbidden by not sending the = signal.

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  • MAX_KEY_UPDATES frame

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I'm supprised to find that Figure 5 of https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-18#section-7.1 indicates the use of CERT and CV for a resumed connection.
Please compare this to Figure 3 of https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8446#section-2.2.

I recommend to change the line "Handshake[0] CRYPTO[EE, CERT, CV, FIN]" to "Handshake[0] CRYPTO[EE, FIN]".

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----==_mimepart_5c8231f3e7214_55b83ffd81ad45bc6371c-- From nobody Fri Mar 8 06:54:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8F01279AD for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 06:53:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vw06ZgUlc6I8 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 06:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70672131399 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 06:53:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 06:53:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552056832; bh=Iana7E4Jb5aGQKF7I0WBPODpXBFKEWGwRDD6y+3kdlg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=yZZd7eHhjIf4p5J8HrZkagCpFiWA2TeMGkmPEE0gT5x/PBj9GlPrRD/viEQLStsDI In1giTj0RXKnuL6up3CE/STaJfIQm7RoZ5Fk2rrZWC7PyOninYsd/7VWUQvYIK1iqu Z5xN6YDTS5wpEsCgo58YvZwZ3lDnB4BKmsaIppKI= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Suggestion for #2499 (#2503) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c828200c7724_2eb23f86f18d45c02599e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 14:54:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c828200c7724_2eb23f86f18d45c02599e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. One suggestion, but looks good overall. > @@ -269,9 +269,10 @@ data in one direction: from the initiator of the stream to its peer. Bidirectional streams allow for data to be sent in both directions. Streams are identified within a connection by a numeric value, referred to as -the stream ID. Stream IDs are unique to a stream. A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT -reuse a stream ID within a connection. Stream IDs are encoded as -variable-length integers (see {{integer-encoding}}). +the stream ID. A stream ID is a 62-bit integer (0 to 2^62-1) that is unique for +all streams on a connection. A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a stream ID within a +connection. Stream IDs are encoded as variable-length integers (see I'd put this sentence up one, so it's next to the 62 bit integer sentence. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2503#pullrequestreview-212316158 ----==_mimepart_5c828200c7724_2eb23f86f18d45c02599e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@ianswett commented on this pull request.

One suggestion, but looks good overall.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -269,9 +269,10 @@ data in one direction: from the initiator of the stream to its peer.
 Bidirectional streams allow for data to be sent in both directions.
 
 Streams are identified within a connection by a numeric value, referred to as
-the stream ID.  Stream IDs are unique to a stream. A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT
-reuse a stream ID within a connection.  Stream IDs are encoded as
-variable-length integers (see {{integer-encoding}}).
+the stream ID.  A stream ID is a 62-bit integer (0 to 2^62-1) that is unique for
+all streams on a connection. A QUIC endpoint MUST NOT reuse a stream ID within a
+connection.  Stream IDs are encoded as variable-length integers (see

I'd put this sentence up one, so it's next to the 62 bit integer sentence.

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----==_mimepart_5c82c80920856_537e3fa5702d45c43386d7-- From nobody Fri Mar 8 13:09:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECAA1277CD for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:09:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jWD4RHYTu1VL for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E626E1275F3 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:09:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 13:09:17 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552079357; bh=m8/u/6HC66rcHoSkGZFYI9r/Vf2XB6rjgzXS3v2w4jk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NZwM6d26RBm0zGqJxvlcrsfysIk9/Lo6dbv0CIc1V4qu2MQpETRTpkQ69UneE8Ed6 hlOyrz1YAUCHhkAPCtueGF2hN74YHMAU9wAH7rgKph4t3Yqo3oSFMdIh/xDCZmui1s HqzIWsNGftO5Wxpjgde7B5SjP6ULsYU6SPYpXhoA= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] PRIORITY frames from server should be Connection Error (#2507) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c82d9fd84c50_d673faf754d45b8748832"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 21:09:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c82d9fd84c50_d673faf754d45b8748832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the very end of Section 4.2.3 of quic-http says: PRIORITY frames received by a client MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME. Elsewhere, this kind of thing is a connection error. Making this a stream error seems problematic; if otherwise valid, if this goes out on the control stream a stream error may bring everything down anyway? Here is the mailing list thread: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/ODlqMOxUP9W5RcZ5UIjTp2lKh4U I believe the consensus is to make it a conn error; PR to follow. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2507 ----==_mimepart_5c82d9fd84c50_d673faf754d45b8748832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

the very end of Section 4.2.3 of quic-http says:

PRIORITY frames received by a client MUST be treated as a stream
error of type HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME.

Elsewhere, this kind of thing is a connection error. Making this a stream error seems problematic; if otherwise valid, if this goes out on the control stream a stream error may bring everything down anyway?

Here is the mailing list thread:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/ODlqMOxUP9W5RcZ5UIjTp2lKh4U

I believe the consensus is to make it a conn error; PR to follow.

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Fixes #2507.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2508

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  • Change illegal PRIORITY frame to a conn error

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> -Servers MUST ensure that they account for any increase in costs before accepting
-connections or 0-RTT.
+QUIC is not vulnerable to replay attack, except via the application protocol
+information it might carry.  The management of QUIC protocol state based on the
+frame types defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is not vulnerable to replay.
+Processing of QUIC frames is idempotent and cannot result in invalid connection
+states if frames are replayed, reordered or lost.  QUIC connections do not
+produce effects that last beyond the lifetime of the connection, except for
+those produced by the application protocol that QUIC serves.
+
+Note:
+
+: TLS session tickets and address validation tokens are used to carry QUIC
+  configuration information between connections.  These MUST NOT be used to
+  carry application state.  The potential for reuse of these tokens means that
+  they require stronger protections against replay.

This contradicts the advice about using session tickets to validate HTTP settings for 0-RTT.

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Perhaps I'm missing it but the spec doesn't say how to handle a STOP_SENDING received on a control stream. Should this peer issue a RESET_STREAM in response (causing the other peer to blow up) or should it just close the connection itself?

Originally posted by @LPardue in #2498 (comment)

There are three reasonable places to blow up:

  • When you decide to stop reading a critical stream (i.e. when STOP_SENDING is sent)
  • When you discover the peer has stopped reading a critical stream (i.e. when STOP_SENDING is received)
  • When you discover the peer has closed a critical stream (when RESET_STREAM or FIN is received)

My inclination would be to advise against FIN/S_S/R_S on a critical stream and mandate connection termination on receipt of any of them.

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> Perhaps I'm missing it but the spec doesn't say how to handl= e a
> STOP_SENDING received on a control stream. Should this peer issue a<= br> > RESET_STREAM in response (causing the other peer to blow up) or shou= ld it
> just close the connection itself?
>
> *Originally posted by @LPardue <https://github.com/LPardue> in= #2498
> (comment)
> <https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2498#issuecomment-4= 70316968>*
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> There are three reasonable places to blow up:
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> - When you decide to stop reading a critical stream (i.e. when > STOP_SENDING is sent)
> - When you discover the peer has stopped reading a critical strea= m
> (i.e. when STOP_SENDING is received)
> - When you discover the peer has closed a critical stream (when > RESET_STREAM or FIN is received)
>
> My inclination would be to advise against FIN/S_S/R_S on a critical = stream
> and mandate connection termination on receipt of any of them.
>
Completely agree. This seems like the simplest and most obvious solution.=

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=0D > > *Originally posted by @LPardue <https://github.com/LPardue&g= t; in #2498
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From discussion, I think the intent of that text was that if a PRIORIT= Y frame prioritizes or references something that's not in the tr= ee, the missing element gets added at the default priority.

So if C arrives before B, the tree would briefly have this layout:

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Yes, that means the prioritization isn't quite what the client intende= d until the other PRIORITY frame arrives -- our design goal was eventual = consistency, not guaranteed lockstep. The safeguard against that is to re= peat B on the control stream if you care.

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@MikeBishop approved this pull request.

Wordsmithing, but content is fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,12 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
+value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
+expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).
+If either is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with a

"be immediately closed" feels like odd word order, and doesn't occur elsewhere in the document. Maybe "be closed immediately" or simply "be closed"?

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[ci skip] From nobody Fri Mar 8 19:16:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2821277D7 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 19:16:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NPGoLr6kV8sp for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 19:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 417F5126C15 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 19:16:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 19:16:00 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552101360; bh=1riMXZ4JqbYxzbfIn/yOdBInsLzR0UyuIT7JcXsTW2I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WnavP2Wr5Cdwv9ffBcrwfVX87hwIwzCXVhCAPh64XOD8gUM+n2dPOjG0MQwfHhR2D cKFAOW3U1ecn83pL1eqyGHdP8sS3EILYEzOeC69mEQbUZe5qfU/oCdUAJOjTsvyX7/ kbni82F4cK3gSJc0ZwEWIc25b1QhXi2aD4eGMahM= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change illegal PRIORITY frame to a conn error (#2508) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c832ff0eceec_7d8d3fa7a9ad45b8140868"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 03:16:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c832ff0eceec_7d8d3fa7a9ad45b8140868 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has this been the only case where a protocol violation resulted in a stream error? Or should we check if there are similar cases and file PRs as necessary? I ask this, because IIUC at least some of us considered the proposal as a change of design principle, to stop localizing such errors, and I wonder if the change made in this PR is a tip of an iceberg. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2508#issuecomment-471140814 ----==_mimepart_5c832ff0eceec_7d8d3fa7a9ad45b8140868 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Has this been the only case where a protocol violation resulted in a s= tream error? Or should we check if there are similar cases and file PRs a= s necessary?

I ask this, because IIUC at least some of us considered the proposal a= s a change of design principle, to stop localizing such errors, and I won= der if the change made in this PR is a tip of an iceberg.

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= = ----==_mimepart_5c832ff0eceec_7d8d3fa7a9ad45b8140868-- From nobody Fri Mar 8 20:49:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7391126F72 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 20:49:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ruKuPoXOExWX for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 20:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5474D124BAA for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2019 20:49:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2019 20:49:37 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552106977; bh=RZECeo2QMR7PJfUHDS5GZUOXH4Jzti6X3CAJvvKeTas=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=C0XK1PgCt5nPklXXuiAoH/8U/YufqMVCf8mo2xq8wq6zKbVUU9DJ0LyTdGdbkT+L6 3QUHpiqp4/+w2cM+m/8aQRvrzoEmgZpUdTbQhRtsYEDbXViiDTIBnYmm6kk2+A+uuu hYQFG4f7keLm3hKuTQKl5qlsRA2SP8Gj7htyoJNo= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Change illegal PRIORITY frame to a conn error (#2508) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8345e13d3c8_3d863ff76d4d45b427687b1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 04:49:40 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8345e13d3c8_3d863ff76d4d45b427687b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't comprehensively reviewed the draft, but having just implemented the HTTP/3 frame parser, I can say that other UNEXPECTED_FRAME instances are connection errors. Furthermore, PRIORITY frames can arrive on the control stream. If there were a stream error there it would have to take down the connection anyway. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2508#issuecomment-471145520 ----==_mimepart_5c8345e13d3c8_3d863ff76d4d45b427687b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I haven't comprehensively reviewed the draft, but having just implemen= ted the HTTP/3 frame parser, I can say that other UNEXPECTED_FRAME instan= ces are connection errors.

Furthermore, PRIORITY frames can arrive on the control stream. If ther= e were a stream error there it would have to take down the connection any= way.

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@kazuho, that's a good question. Previously, the philosophy ha= s been that connection errors are ones which screw up the state so badly = you can't trust the connection to proceed correctly. It's a reasonable, = but not bulletproof, argument that a peer which doesn't obey the protocol= has the same implication -- you can't trust the connection.

If you see other protocol violations which are stream-local errors, pl= ease file issues and we'll discuss.

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In reply to #2508 (comment):

@kazuho, that's a good question. Previously, the philosophy has been that connection errors are ones which screw up the state so badly you can't trust the connection to proceed correctly. It's a reasonable, but not bulletproof, argument that a peer which doesn't obey the protocol has the same implication -- you can't trust the connection.

If you see other protocol violations which are stream-local errors, please file issues and we'll discuss.

I did a quick search for "stream error" and found a few that discusses about protocol violation. This PR changes "connection error."

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510

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For consistency with PR #2508 and on-list discussion, there are multiple other places in the draft an error that indicates an incorrect implementation is treated as a stream error, not a connection error.

"Only servers can push; if a server receives a client-initiated push stream, this MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_DIRECTION."

"A PRIORITY frame received after other frames on a request stream MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_UNEXPECTED_FRAME."

Unclear:
"A PRIORITY frame that references a non-existent Push ID, a Placeholder ID greater than the server's limit, or a Stream ID the client is not yet permitted to open MUST be treated as an HTTP_LIMIT_EXCEEDED error."

"A CANCEL_PUSH frame is sent on the control stream. Receiving a CANCEL_PUSH frame on a stream other than the control stream MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_WRONG_STREAM."

Possibly should be a connection error:
"A PRIORITY frame sent on a request stream with the Prioritized Element Type set to any value other than "11" or which expresses a dependency on a request with a greater Stream ID than the current stream MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME."

In the appendix:
" SETTINGS_MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS: QUIC controls the largest open
Stream ID as part of its flow control logic. Specifying
SETTINGS_MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS in the SETTINGS frame is an error.

SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE: QUIC requires both stream and
connection flow control window sizes to be specified in the
initial transport handshake. Specifying
SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE in the SETTINGS frame is an error.

SETTINGS_MAX_FRAME_SIZE: This setting has no equivalent in HTTP/3.
Specifying it in the SETTINGS frame is an error."

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Fixes #2511

Does not include changes to the 4 causes I was unsure on below
"A PRIORITY frame sent on a request stream with the Prioritized Element Type set to any value other than "11" or which expresses a dependency on a request with a greater Stream ID than the current stream MUST be treated as a stream error of type HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME."

In the appendix:
" SETTINGS_MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS: QUIC controls the largest open
Stream ID as part of its flow control logic. Specifying
SETTINGS_MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS in the SETTINGS frame is an error.

SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE: QUIC requires both stream and
connection flow control window sizes to be specified in the
initial transport handshake. Specifying
SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE in the SETTINGS frame is an error.

SETTINGS_MAX_FRAME_SIZE: This setting has no equivalent in HTTP/3.
Specifying it in the SETTINGS frame is an error."

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2512

Commit Summary

  • Make avoidable HTTP/3 errors connection errors

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[ci skip] From nobody Sat Mar 9 01:03:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8440124D68 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 01:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x3euiCcUDYDN for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 01:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1688D12426E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 01:03:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 01:03:18 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552122198; bh=MC6r2/IfUoNxACDtPjUk6XGM5ULPyFvwOnL/td0EgmY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=D+cj2GWdf331ZO/9A50ybtepc4Hpf/maLNiRVwXnXod+u1MDxaJ1mVNXh54oX/fnu el9fkrhhbl4rfsUHFFdeDxT1vG93obbWegisa8nL4QTCEPCZpX5oSEgq+myWtkuF7I XJsb48zZAAbFO3aXs+F/u5oI7dT2pz85/I2nPgC8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] all HTTP/3 protocol violations should lead to connection errors (#2510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c83815612f5d_69cb3fd84f0d45b410171b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 09:03:21 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c83815612f5d_69cb3fd84f0d45b410171b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wrote an almost identical PR #2512 I'll now close, but I think we want to fix line 331 and 630 as I do in my PR? 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I wrote an almost identical PR #2512 I'll now close, but I think we want to fix line 331 and 630 as I do in my PR? On those lines, we didn't specify what type of error it was.

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Closing because I didn't see #2510

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Closed #2512.

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Fixes #2511

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,12 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
+value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
+expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).
+If either is received, the connection MUST be immediately closed with a

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----==_mimepart_5c83895d577a5_28923fa5702d45c44016f6-- From nobody Sat Mar 9 01:41:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A0B12426E for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 01:41:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m5noy9OF6dVX for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 01:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE9B1200ED for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 01:41:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 01:41:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552124512; bh=NZ5WahUcLij0JOxMD+85bWr6EGhkKcc7fGPvvPepGrc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=OgD0sVd+9PM1KGmzJwERHtFJLzUkkwOf/vGfrRg9c9F+al/tpy22SZjStYpt3Y6GK tlnkA6yjzUfr/6rATJwJGhmaQHY4D7ilTP964VPOt0l+l3/IiO6fOWs3SGWtJpiZoz V40/5c3VpH8yVCvjXSMofziOXTWvRV/86aMEZaJk= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Some correctness issues in the HTTP/3 drafts are stream errors, not connection errors (#2511) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c838a6099fe9_71643fe5ba8d45c01763783"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 09:41:55 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c838a6099fe9_71643fe5ba8d45c01763783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm ok with such changes but wonder if we should also add some further prose to the document that: * highlights HTTP/3 difference to HTTP/2 i.e. "all errors are always connection errors" * captures some of the guidance mentioned elsewhere like "identifying the stream on which a problem frame was delivered may be useful in error analysis, endpoints might want to include the stream ID in the reason phrase" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2511#issuecomment-471162341 ----==_mimepart_5c838a6099fe9_71643fe5ba8d45c01763783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm ok with such changes but wonder if we should also add some further= prose to the document that:

  • highlights HTTP/3 difference to HTTP/2 i.e. "all errors are always co= nnection errors"
  • captures some of the guidance mentioned elsewhere like "identifying t= he stream on which a problem frame was delivered may be useful in error a= nalysis, endpoints might want to include the stream ID in the reason phra= se"

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@marten-seemann commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,12 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
+value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
+expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).

Maybe better: ... this value would be larger than the maximum stream ID that can be expresed as a variable-length integer.

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@kazuho there are also some stream errors in QPACK you might want to address at the same time

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Fails to mention that app error codes also can be sent in STOP_SENDING

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----==_mimepart_5c8395076d7e8_1c133f80b80d45bc9805f5-- From nobody Sat Mar 9 05:51:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFFE12798D for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 05:51:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KsUnfjL-hiaF for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 05:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98009130EBA for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 05:51:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 05:51:24 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552139485; bh=lfDS5m5CCOkiVWFvp3y01Hq/rbTg1NkBvX1DKPZaIs0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=piPIxEXQDk4DmaJ/nRygj4FmeqmVMcn0CuYDWsv2goTuJPGoSxC/N8lkaZGG+TUpp hmZcEVQnrkVzODjL1+nH8TpZLHwd4ve9bzBbVVkKsWiCxqjpU/YLsveIeG7Fq4UeTv Y1Afu/AbgVvr25jpyYGZ1tcoIuX7QweqpeNQjtc8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Some correctness issues in the HTTP/3 drafts are stream errors, not connection errors (#2511) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c83c4dce0996_5ad83fd08b8d45b41294764"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 13:51:39 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c83c4dce0996_5ad83fd08b8d45b41294764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't believe all errors are connection errors, even after Kazuho's PR, but I believe we could make that true with some changes. For example, when too large a header is received, it's currently a stream error because it's not required you communicate your max header size, and if you don't, the peer can't expected to know the limit. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2511#issuecomment-471178807 ----==_mimepart_5c83c4dce0996_5ad83fd08b8d45b41294764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't believe all errors are connection errors, even after Kazuho's = PR, but I believe we could make that true with some changes.

For example, when too large a header is received, it's currently a str= eam error because it's not required you communicate your max header size,= and if you don't, the peer can't expected to know the limit.

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The default value of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE is unlimited. Would you expect a peer to generate an excessive load error on a stream with the default?

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The current text is:
"encountering a larger message header SHOULD be treated as a stream error= of type "HTTP_EXCESSIVE_LOAD". If an implementation wishes to advise it= s peer of this limit, it can be conveyed as a number of bytes in the "SET= TINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE" parameter."

To me, the issue here is that a peer can have a limit, but is not requ= ired to advertise that limit. If we required that if a peer has a limit,= it must advertise it and enforce it, then closing the connection makes s= ense to me.

Given it's really easy to advertise it and it's within encryption, I d= on't see any reason not to make that change, but it's a slightly larger c= hange than the other cases, where we're changing obviously avoidable erro= rs to connection errors.

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Happy to spin off another issue.

SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (0x6): The default value is unlimited.<= br> See Section 5.1.1 for usage.

Is the intent here "unlimited, but not really and I may reject at any = time without sharing my limit". How is a peer that broke the rule expecte= d to recover from such an error?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,12 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
+value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
+expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).

I think I'm ok with the existing text at this point, but if others prefer yours, I'll change it.

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How about "an endpoint encountering a header list larger than the valu= e advertised using SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE parameter MUST close the= connection with a connection error."

I do not think we should mandate the use of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_S= IZE when imposing a limit on the header list size. This is because the ma= ximum can be different between requests. For a proxy, the maximum size is= actually unknown, because each origin would have different maximums.

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Apologies. I did not open an issue when creating the PR; I thought that it's an amendment of the previous PR (though it's big).

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----==_mimepart_5c8432d4b0374_69f23f83f40d45b45278c3-- From nobody Sat Mar 9 14:21:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98B3127970 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 14:21:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oFSoUlsGES_C for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 14:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from out-13.smtp.github.com (out-13.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D653D1277D9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2019 14:21:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 14:21:52 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552170112; bh=UoAjWz7zKBEjmhs1MdwR4Mg1vOiB2vUE+PGZO+qhiP8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Xs6Idur3D0bresPmcc/8AMrSIdpJS+qCQtAgmlK8UJqMj3xch6ffWEaWUva8cDK1c Gk7xNgEPFby5wYnDCTsuEfpC9L2Kxl+rjV06+fQiyXeKeLvAmfwHMXASI+MEAyaW+y jtOplDMVlonk4oszTwKD7hD56zvMY6SUVFO3PMPY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Some correctness issues in the HTTP/3 drafts are stream errors, not connection errors (#2511) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c843c80a891c_793f3f876dad45c41086e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2019 22:21:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c843c80a891c_793f3f876dad45c41086e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > PS. Though such a change would mandate the sender to respect SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (it's not required now). Let me correct my self. This is wrong. By not forbidding responding with a connection error, we have been effectively mandating the sender to respect the settings parameter. Therefore, I think we can clarify as an editorial change that a client MUST adhere the settings parameter, and then exceeding a limit becomes a protocol violation, which should be treated as a connection error. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2511#issuecomment-471227594 ----==_mimepart_5c843c80a891c_793f3f876dad45c41086e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

PS. Though such a change would mandate the sender to respect SETTINGS_= MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (it's not required now).

Let me correct my self. This is wrong. By not forbidding responding wi= th a connection error, we have been effectively mandating the sender to r= espect the settings parameter.

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Your text SGTM. Since HTTP/3 is not yet at a 'higher bar', it doesn't matter too much as long as Mike agrees as well.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Mar 11 02:38:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A2F131025 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 02:38:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T0qwV-MZrwJT for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 02:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5A7B13106E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 02:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 02:38:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552297110; bh=7fSDucJjFy9BP+vv0sb5m3pzvmEvmNvPi6rJszF9uhg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=mOLg4GC8swuGBuOsOZWIu5ChvY7EatEx3Q2bObGKPCI8a+4HXxuIo7mN9NnZFt0Co JEkoHdWntqFgCVI4yoJBhjdUFQZcVAhwNw/vz9gvM5KwXaeBL33BCGFopzeetAeq4H NQTUOV36bgN+wznUwsNIeDYi+cBYHqhV8N5rP8VM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Changelog for -19 (#2514) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c862c966d963_2ba33fe7ac8d45b82211e0"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:38:48 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c862c966d963_2ba33fe7ac8d45b82211e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will merge this very soon, but I haven't done the recovery bits, which is where most of the changes are. Ian and Jana, that needs to be done today. The changes I see are [here](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/issues.html#closed_since(2019-01-22)%20merged%20not(label(editorial))), where the unlabelled ones are recovery. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2514 -- Commit Summary -- * Changes for -transport and -tls * Add a few missing HTTP -19 entries * qpack -07 changes -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (2) M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (4) M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md (5) M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (16) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2514.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2514.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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I will merge this very soon, but I haven't done the recovery bits, which is where most of the changes are. Ian and Jana, that needs to be done today.

The changes I see are here, where the unlabelled ones are recovery.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2514

Commit Summary

  • Changes for -transport and -tls
  • Add a few missing HTTP -19 entries
  • qpack -07 changes

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How can this be justified? This is a departure from RFC 7540, which states in two places that this setting is only advisory. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-471526344 ----==_mimepart_5c865a12fa88_57ac3f89b5ad45c038547c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

An endpoint MUST NOT send a header list that exceeds the peer-advised limit.

How can this be justified? This is a departure from RFC 7540, which states in two places that this setting is only advisory.

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----==_mimepart_5c865a12fa88_57ac3f89b5ad45c038547c-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 06:04:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B605C1310AE for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 06:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zVSRvhuDpYKM for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 06:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C55A9130FCB for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 06:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 06:03:56 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552309436; bh=wQmE1TVcw9/t43f3sIc3eHMCL4BdO3rmGmyUwlkSf70=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=cK0DIrU8VqrjCHQmudT8NfOjj+Rf0zpV5hS8QliQNtGNT6BX7RrQXLwvvrvtcP/AD 6j3UjU+7gSnIQn/PjA2D3ixJINJbYx0MCgQSFrDCQ+KJ5ALh4szC9GFrau/5Qjkb17 wAaklJ/7vDQYnMK+U11xEmdK5tYUWpqKtNT0cnxU= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Close the connection if MAX_STREAMS is too large (#2499) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c865cbcbd025_5f8e3fc68e0d45b4343236"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:04:08 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c865cbcbd025_5f8e3fc68e0d45b4343236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2^60 is too large as well, as 2^62 cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer, either. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2499#issuecomment-471529776 ----==_mimepart_5c865cbcbd025_5f8e3fc68e0d45b4343236 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

2^60 is too large as well, as 2^62 cannot be expressed as a variable-length integer, either.

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I believe 2^60 means stream IDs of that type with Stream IDs less than 2^62 can be opened, but those equal and greater cannot.

I MAX_STREAMS of 1 means a single stream can be opened, and that stream will have an ID less than 1 * 2^2 = 4.

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@ianswett approved this pull request.

I'll do a changelog for recovery this morning.

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@ianswett, I see. You're right -- thanks.

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I don't have a better name for blocking entries right now, but I will keep thinking on it as I agree it could confuse people even more. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2261#issuecomment-471633872 ----==_mimepart_5c86972ecb161_43a83fec5c6d45c42298dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for this. I don't have a better name for blocking entries right now, but I will keep thinking on it as I agree it could confuse people even more.

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Merged #2261 into master.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Mar 11 13:16:34 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCEB12796B for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:16:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V163huBaAE24 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C08C7131151 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:16:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552335379; bh=SkjLqPVQaAez0fmlYwDaaoVB5VDbVlWsjlEEDT9fuQs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Zus8EFo/lT/1Mcon66LbpG0F8Evpk+RHPcvINlS3A2dIze5GFCzPJ3YbLkSe9Xcp8 LF5tw5REIOgTNFRr53pAnYY+eKsJNcse1OJSRi57NctmBGox1Y0MKmSPzR2qfxgvnP F093BkNW1RVC/llBd35WPpVSf53pFfU2IKzC9WoY= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] all HTTP/3 protocol violations should lead to connection errors (#2510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c86c2133b4bf_1e353f9753cd45b8470b8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:16:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c86c2133b4bf_1e353f9753cd45b8470b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit @dtikhonov >> An endpoint MUST NOT send a header list that exceeds the peer-advised limit. > > How can this be justified? This is a departure from RFC 7540, which states in two places that this setting is only advisory. Yeah. My read of HTTP/3 is that it is already different from HTTP/2 this respect. It is no more clarifies as "advisory," no there is a mention that a client can exceed the limit (a text that exists in RFC 7540). Regarding the ideal behavior, I prefer being strict here, because it would give us the most predictive behavior at a minimal cost (it's trivial to check the size, isn't it?). Think it from an end-user perspective. Without the restriction, we might see one user-agent telling you that the request is too large, and the other processing the same request. That'd be confusing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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An endpoint MUST NOT send a header list that exceeds the peer-advised = limit.

How can this be justified? This is a departure from RFC 7540, which st= ates in two places that this setting is only advisory.

Yeah. My read of HTTP/3 is that it is already different from HTTP/2 th= is respect. It is no more clarifies as "advisory," no there is a mention = that a client can exceed the limit (a text that exists in RFC 7540).

Regarding the ideal behavior, I prefer being strict here, because it w= ould give us the most predictive behavior at a minimal cost (it's trivial= to check the size, isn't it?). Think it from an end-user perspective. Wi= thout the restriction, we might see one user-agent telling you that the r= equest is too large, and the other processing the same request. That'd be= confusing.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c86c2133b4bf_1e353f9753cd45b8470b8-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 13:28:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1A212787F for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nHE2jYtYw07l for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA6CA1200D8 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 13:28:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552336090; bh=VyqobbWz6Bw9+ma+8MhcD4zymv8Qc/mwkp3EAYLouNs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=gFrarjR83/a3ApMPchcP6DNPdhwTm7CtbHGKdMFMhSA12PgMhxEE7cklYCwPiHWCq so8W6E1Lr2tcC/2K0cos6QItY22uXfV8EhpVZl6rE6JLp7M1lh1jg1KZmkZB/RiTQ8 LwpXFJ06oDf2S9LCyPOuYL1oxbt+z/w4ggJ+ub3c= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] all HTTP/3 protocol violations should lead to connection errors (#2510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c86c4da29644_3fba3fabb7ed45c0323d9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:28:12 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c86c4da29644_3fba3fabb7ed45c0323d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The clients already differ in many, many other ways. The size check is trivial, but that's not the problem. The problem is the risk of breaking existing web applications. The current HTTP/2 browser behavior is to advertise a limit, but to process much larger header lists. We don't want to end up where *"HTTP/3 broke my app!"* is a thing. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-471716253 ----==_mimepart_5c86c4da29644_3fba3fabb7ed45c0323d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The clients already differ in many, many other ways. The size check i= s trivial, but that's not the problem. The problem is the risk of breaki= ng existing web applications. The current HTTP/2 browser behavior is to = advertise a limit, but to process much larger header lists. We don't wan= t to end up where "HTTP/3 broke my app!" is a thing.

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H2 discusses max header list size in the same breath as header block s= izes and individual header field sizes. The concepts are conflat= ed (perhaps for good reason).

H3 changes some things. For instance there are no CONTINUATIONS and th= e header list cannot span more than on HEADERS frame.

Furthermore, QPACK header blocks dont modify table state, so there are= fewer dangers in refusing to process them (or not?)

There is more to this than meets the eye and I dont think we can unpic= k the problem space as part of this change. Suggest topic is discussed on= list or at Prague 104.

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[ci skip] From nobody Mon Mar 11 14:23:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB5C1311DE for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XvHmI-1xrtHK for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D60431311B5 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:23:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552339386; bh=+YJaj3PBDqaCQCkVCkAdgRpn5i7upedXMva9QkJSUcM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ACHJ4y7rYvfw1tmncgVCfSyc4fGTa/o60BqYL/lotpgBqM7UbpbOpc72BCMgEcK9Q vWa2KuCnpSTBuctm+9w5mrsFvpVbqA6fPr5jkY1l+PjEBDGPXm9JlJhCjylKn2e0R1 g8rKeV+UWFbpbvx71rsFDkDWV/nYEOwv+jpacdYw= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] all HTTP/3 protocol violations should lead to connection errors (#2510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c86d1bad9255_24523fe02c8d45b8309442"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:23:15 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c86d1bad9255_24523fe02c8d45b8309442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I dont think we can unpick the problem space as part of this change I agree. Let's separate the "all protocol violations => connection error" and the "max header list size is no longer advisory" issues. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-471735393 ----==_mimepart_5c86d1bad9255_24523fe02c8d45b8309442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I dont think we can unpick the problem space as part of this change

I agree. Let's separate the "all protocol violations => connection error" and the "max header list size is no longer advisory" issues.

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----==_mimepart_5c86d9f58de90_2b033fec490d45c426082e-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 14:58:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B3C131245 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:58:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uQdt33dkcRPf for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 833C2131207 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:58:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552341513; bh=v6GTF6gvICa2wfYF/dXHEOKcsTEtYwx51MNPm7EkolA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Xn7wA3S4Fu09kYo1Dm+rxkB5QNdSAW/jbCaBexUwqMRkZp+RIbRCuQfMGeDtcqR1R kNyBfbBallsjndPYOpdlxdV95j+2wskYVWGdD924O3y5ln7ywXLpxzT7J2rfQrLDM6 zifqLQju3xo7TjpevXmxw7n1MdLE5fixWFePQa3I= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] all HTTP/3 protocol violations should lead to connection errors (#2510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c86da09bf39e_7ce3ff599cd45b4459026"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:58:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c86da09bf39e_7ce3ff599cd45b4459026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Let's separate the "all protocol violations => connection error" and the "max header list size is no longer advisory" issues. SGTM. Reverted the changes regarding max header list size. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-471752986 ----==_mimepart_5c86da09bf39e_7ce3ff599cd45b4459026 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Let's separate the "all protocol violations => connection error" and the "max header list size is no longer advisory" issues.

SGTM. Reverted the changes regarding max header list size.

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Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE in unclear. We should either:

  • state that it's an advisory value that an endpoint is permitted to ignore. Otherwise, an endpoint written under the impression that it's a value to be enforced might terminate the connection (note: H3 allows a stream error to be promoted to a connection error) thereby disrupting other HTTP requests inflight.
  • state that an endpoint must not exceed the value advertised by the peer.

spun off from #2510 #2512.

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----==_mimepart_5c86db2db9b28_4e423fbe2eed45b4320072-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 15:07:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABCD128664 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:07:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Av6_omds6W4P for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 985D61310C6 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:07:00 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552342020; bh=PL/FskRdpQ72yfWXhlyGWSzLvpuApnJd97t/Q8fPRBA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Vo22vNYnLXYkWpeDZqKipVOzWvZ41qvSc75N1LvioMFzBtuO+xV9XwgZVzJe53Lxa T8VdeqSgb50Swmpt0Kjw7MZdJkDruwwCwPQem49m2s9dFXuKdOueRsmfavA9daD7lq kii0dEzwP6wUOa0cLlFWT6ovmPYKuGwAp5x/b6Lw= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (#2516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c86dc046c51b_76043fea3f8d45b422919"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:07:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c86dc046c51b_76043fea3f8d45b422919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My preference goes to being strict. Quoting from https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-47171000: > Think it from an end-user perspective. Without the restriction, we might see one user-agent telling you that the request is too large, and the other processing the same request. That'd be confusing. I also think that what @dtikhonov points out in https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-471716253 is an argument for making this an enforcement (or drop the settings entirely). Unless we do so, implementations would be tempted to ignore the setting for "maximum interoperability," making the feature meaningless. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516#issuecomment-471756391 ----==_mimepart_5c86dc046c51b_76043fea3f8d45b422919 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My preference goes to being strict. Quoting from
#2510 (comment):

Think it from an end-user perspective. Without the restriction, we mig= ht see one user-agent telling you that the request is too large, and the = other processing the same request. That'd be confusing.

I also think that what @dtikhonov points out in
#2510 (comment) is an argument for making this an enf= orcement (or drop the settings entirely). Unless we do so, implementation= s would be tempted to ignore the setting for "maximum interoperability," = making the feature meaningless.

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Thanks for creating the issue @kazuho!

Do we have some deployment experience that can weigh in here. I've hea= rd anecdotal stories that nginx ignores the setting in HTTP/2 by default.= And I've found an interesting Chrome crbug that also mentions HTTP/2 loa= d balancers - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/iss= ues/detail?id=3D751642*

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That seems slightly wrong, because why would someone send something then give up without receiving anything in return, but that is actually possible in the presence of packet loss. And changing your mind is perfectly acceptable. But RESET_STREAM doesn't really cover it. Streams can get blocked, requests can go out with additional flow control credits, and maybe even STOP_SENDING makes sense. So this changes it so that any stream-related frame (those that exist to convey application state or manage it), can be sent in 0-RTT. That seems more principled than just adding RESET_STREAM. Closes #2344. Commit: 59580812145936f7089586212155f14f4495d49f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/59580812145936f7089586212155f14f4495d49f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-01-22 (Tue, 22 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Expand the anti-replay story The inclusion of RESET_STREAM (and all other frame types) in 0-RTT inspired me to do some more analysis and due diligence on anti-replay. This adds a security considerations section with requirements for application protocols. That section explains more about what the risks for QUIC are, how QUIC itself isn't affected, but how an application protocol might be. It also adds a section to the HTTP draft citing RFC 8470, explaining how that analysis is sufficient for HTTP/3. Commit: f9d24ec32312d0d0328c4d9057838d5653ece8e6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f9d24ec32312d0d0328c4d9057838d5653ece8e6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-01-22 (Tue, 22 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Missing 'only' Commit: 0fe91c8cb89eed4b0a63b5994c7287933d37a54c https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fe91c8cb89eed4b0a63b5994c7287933d37a54c Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-01-23 (Wed, 23 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Fix CONNECTION_CLOSE Commit: fdfb19d5922e75b5d6b93eda217e3a9c242308f6 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fdfb19d5922e75b5d6b93eda217e3a9c242308f6 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-01-31 (Thu, 31 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Move PADDING up Commit: 9400c2f9b2c5a235ce15377538bc8dc354467f39 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/9400c2f9b2c5a235ce15377538bc8dc354467f39 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Replay protection is the responsibility of application protocols This is based on my recent conclusions about this subject. It rewrites the advice here by observing that QUIC does not inherently present a replay risk. Instead, application protocols, in their use of QUIC, might create an exposure to replay attack. Rather than try to perform an analysis in the transport, based on incomplete information, it is better to outline some risks (STREAM seems like the only obvious one here, frankly, though I've pointed out a couple of anti-patterns that might have accompanying replay risks) and let the application protocol designers perform a more complete analysis. We did that analysis for HTTP. I believe that to be sufficient. Though I might include mention of the fact that stream cancellation and other h2 mechanisms don't carry application semantics, but that is not a major source of regret. Commit: 5bbe441637b02e211265464931913e393ef13fb8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5bbe441637b02e211265464931913e393ef13fb8 Author: Mike Bishop Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M CONTRIBUTING.md M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-invariants.md M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md M draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md M tag.sh Log Message: ----------- Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into 0rtt-reset Commit: f95c289d1b49ed188ba1aa940de4feb3133adc4d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f95c289d1b49ed188ba1aa940de4feb3133adc4d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Mike's comments Commit: 0974bda7da7977b5504d8eae222a1a57d5aa2af5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0974bda7da7977b5504d8eae222a1a57d5aa2af5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Reword Commit: 0bb2046abc730c39e245f1041a4c074ce714454d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0bb2046abc730c39e245f1041a4c074ce714454d Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- application semantics stuff Commit: c4e459ffda2a56980f5e61322342566ab263c179 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c4e459ffda2a56980f5e61322342566ab263c179 Author: Jana Iyengar Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- attachment issue Co-Authored-By: martinthomson Commit: e03aa6b5caf2644e813c4412d2cfe162b72e7134 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e03aa6b5caf2644e813c4412d2cfe162b72e7134 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-07 (Thu, 07 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Taking Mikkel's review/suggestions into account, trimming, adding Commit: e5ca7387db8a6eac53d655304dc4be07673c8d1e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/e5ca7387db8a6eac53d655304dc4be07673c8d1e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-11 (Mon, 11 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial tweaks Commit: b2566a13475480f52115e1cee0cb0c95d0b4ece7 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/b2566a13475480f52115e1cee0cb0c95d0b4ece7 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-11 (Mon, 11 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-http.md M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2355 from quicwg/0rtt-reset Allow most frames in 0-RTT Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/6aa59d8a6eac...b2566a134754 From nobody Mon Mar 11 15:51:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809D712AF7B for ; 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:51:50 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 63e18037753f70bb641b5a77a6c37bceba05baa5 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/63e18037753f70bb641b5a77a6c37bceba05baa5 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-01-30 (Wed, 30 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove requirement for reciprocal connection ID change Closes #1795, #2145. Commit: 23014c8b8a59be658a5156ae46fcbacc7e681311 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23014c8b8a59be658a5156ae46fcbacc7e681311 Author: ianswett Date: 2019-01-30 (Wed, 30 Jan 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- remove redundant word Co-Authored-By: martinthomson Commit: 48002d0f68802958f856a2a15cb41b079e355e88 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48002d0f68802958f856a2a15cb41b079e355e88 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial changes Commit: 13698cbe311922a3995236dda960b4cdff49e36f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/13698cbe311922a3995236dda960b4cdff49e36f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration I could have sworn we agreed to this previously, but I also can't find where we captured it. So here it is. This was originally an editorial factoring of text, but I guess it needs to be a design issue now. Closes #2413. Commit: d6fe1014583969a45f91f9e44022f61b87a8a200 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/d6fe1014583969a45f91f9e44022f61b87a8a200 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Reword zero-length caveat Commit: 491d871829800a78661202e642839ab1e97100d8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/491d871829800a78661202e642839ab1e97100d8 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Explain more Commit: 96b9fe88ce116bba073406d2f0ac65e02e37254f https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/96b9fe88ce116bba073406d2f0ac65e02e37254f Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial changes, stronger MUST Commit: 7c2660ecf7a11f42f7950615b9ad80ecdec8d280 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/7c2660ecf7a11f42f7950615b9ad80ecdec8d280 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-06 (Wed, 06 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Editorial fix Commit: fb9f6904c61e83188813376f8b6be1c09b622b82 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fb9f6904c61e83188813376f8b6be1c09b622b82 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- No connection ID = no migration Commit: ac7f3818c75c1abac0c5f0068532cfd5dc636b3a https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/ac7f3818c75c1abac0c5f0068532cfd5dc636b3a Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-11 (Mon, 11 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Remove text, thanks Ian Commit: c95b96835c50b65abcf913744bd187ebbd92523e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c95b96835c50b65abcf913744bd187ebbd92523e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-12 (Tue, 12 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Ian's suggestion, tweaked Commit: c13a9f565df1fee1cbfe12cf17e2923fc5affeea https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c13a9f565df1fee1cbfe12cf17e2923fc5affeea Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-02-13 (Wed, 13 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Initiate migration Commit: 2575888337c3cc6a834297f5dfffa8319ed8205e https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/2575888337c3cc6a834297f5dfffa8319ed8205e Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-11 (Mon, 11 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2414 from quicwg/new-path-new-cid New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/b2566a134754...2575888337c3 From nobody Mon Mar 11 15:52:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D6412AF7B for ; 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...need to be quoted.

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----==_mimepart_5c86e6f48f6b0_4b273fc76acd45bc505ec-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 15:58:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC62129741 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rSOxl8SMRELJ for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8B7E12894E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:58:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552345118; bh=Pe3ODy+FR0b3X9dilju6qa+uXiBhixHlTdEBzVZGkAo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=PMNGBtl9yD3NBE+PBY1n/alBweK8f+ILPyg1MKuxlA3sqlDkPgXB83hYaScj923BM SXvgASdW24nEWVtbxfJMvTIC2N156dVwjgcFB6/ogrizMeiMprL0B73G90TheL+WxE 4MHrOcmpb9lFc8RW77qSgErRREthQd8MxownV24s= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (#2516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c86e81e9e556_4b653fc76acd45bc1045ea"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:58:42 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c86e81e9e556_4b653fc76acd45bc1045ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have experience from HTTP/2, where it was clear that no intermediary was ever in a position to comply. The setting is hop-by-hop and header fields are end-to-end, so there is an inherent incompatibility. I don't see any stack being able to comply with a limit that is too low for the current message. I'd prefer to see it removed if it came to that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516#issuecomment-471773724 ----==_mimepart_5c86e81e9e556_4b653fc76acd45bc1045ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We have experience from HTTP/2, where it was clear that no intermediar= y was ever in a position to comply. The setting is hop-by-hop and header= fields are end-to-end, so there is an inherent incompatibility. I don't= see any stack being able to comply with a limit that is too low for the = current message. I'd prefer to see it removed if it came to that.

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I agree to removing it.

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----==_mimepart_5c870aea952d9_253c3f7f808d45c01172d8-- From nobody Mon Mar 11 20:56:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CD4130EAA for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:56:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3zcDPk0v3Ok9 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C9E1130EA8 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:56:18 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552362978; bh=V+g1eYtgdLlRn1lvMf2EahpiSsyCkZB6VRkUVzF5hpc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=al2KPU1x7SCGrX/t3uFanJBd3rAKxHPhgTwv7PZ/gkW8TnzQcPYcDd0xgSSFXT3Ds Ugx5KS2b1Jasqt6byMBh/cgNbOwVKLUqb9M+xK3UAdWesHMU3miC643KKozxcFFFdP 5lTJTj/Vd2PMpI0bixr3bSAgpP9+X+3B9Nrx/pgk= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] all HTTP/3 protocol violations should lead to connection errors (#2510) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c872de266d6_7c03f820bed45b460845"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 03:56:20 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c872de266d6_7c03f820bed45b460845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Kazuho, splitting that off makes sense. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2510#issuecomment-471847553 ----==_mimepart_5c872de266d6_7c03f820bed45b460845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks Kazuho, splitting that off makes sense.

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When SOCKS is used, a REQUEST (method, dest port, dest IP) has to be sent during each time of connection establishment. This is straight forward in TCP but in QUIC we establish the connection once with the SOCKS server and multiplex the streams amongst it. **Hence, a new method for SOCKS over QUIC is proposed where the REQUEST and RESPONSE are modified according to the QUIC design** Another important issue with SOCKS is the initial overhead. In our real-time results with Samsung Smartphones, we observed that most the application are short-lived and socks delay impacts the user experience. Hence we have to decide the packets to be packed one the 0-RTT and also if the tunnel can be pre-established with one-time authentication messages being transferred. **We would like to know, if there is similar work going on or shall we submit a fresh RFC including the problem and our approaches** -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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Currently, the SOCKS and QUIC don't work straight forward.
When SOCKS is used, a REQUEST (method, dest port, dest IP) has to be sent during each time of connection establishment. This is straight forward in TCP but in QUIC we establish the connection once with the SOCKS server and multiplex the streams amongst it.
Hence, a new method for SOCKS over QUIC is proposed where the REQUEST and RESPONSE are modified according to the QUIC design

Another important issue with SOCKS is the initial overhead. In our real-time results with Samsung Smartphones, we observed that most the application are short-lived and socks delay impacts the user experience. Hence we have to decide the packets to be packed one the 0-RTT and also if the tunnel can be pre-established with one-time authentication messages being transferred.

We would like to know, if there is similar work going on or shall we submit a fresh RFC including the problem and our approaches

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I, too, think that removing this setting is fine.

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Does this mean constrained devices will not need a control stream?

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Thank you all for the comments.

While I agree with Lucas' point that not all streams in the priority t= ree have to exist yet (and that this is a nicer solution than buffering t= he priority frame), the fact that this can happen and that this should be= treated as "unable to make progress" imo should be mentioned explicitly = in the text then.

The problem then indeed becomes that you get the situation described b= y Mike: there is no stream 3 yet, we don't know where it is in the tree, = temporary 3 gets added as child of root node, stream 2 is now in effect a= sibling of 1 instead of a child (since stream 3 is "unable to make progr= ess"). This could be "briefly" but if the control stream is experiencing = loss, it might last for 1RTT+, which might lead to some difficult to debu= g unwanted bandwidth allocations.

The solution to that could indeed be to replicate stream 3's PRIORITY = frame on the control stream as well, but that also feels a bit dirty... e= specially since a) this scheme is Chrome's default behavior for H2 and b)= some of our tests indicate that this is a better default scheme than the= current full round-robin one1. In this case, buffering the pr= iority frame feels better to me. If we decide not to got for that route, = I feel this use case (aka: "how to fake exclusive dependencies in H3") sh= ould be mentioned in the text.

Summary of proposal: Either change to buffering behaviour or add addit= ional text describing/clarifying A) non-opened streams can exist in the t= ree and B) how to fake exclusive dependencies.

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The discussion in PR #2075 goes into some length when PRIORITY frame duplication on the control stream is appropriate. W= e can port some of the language into the draft. It does not have to be a = lot of text.

Of course non-opened streams can exist in the tree; it is not necessar= y to buffer frames.

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One way to fake exclusive dependencies is, I think, to create a placehol= der "spine" early in the connection. This is a static, ordered single branc= h tree of depth roughly equal to concurrency limit . Only one request is al= lowed per placeholder node, and it becomes easy to manage request leaves be= cause you're just changing references to the placeholder that is always in = the tree.

However, I'm still not completely convinced tree structures are the best= way of managing priority in practice, and would entertain the idea of alte= rnative priority scheme.

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Hi @madhanraj, I think your work sounds interesting. I would recommend creating a new internet draft and sharing it on the QUIC mailing list please!

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@madhanraj I too think this is interesting and second @DavidSchinazi recommendation. There are some people thinkin= g about this area and more use cases are welcome, even if we are tangenti= al to the main focus of the group.

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https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-quic-datagram-02 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pardue-= httpbis-http-network-tunnelling-01

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There's clearly appetite to consider this in the WG, so marking as design.

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We're in the process of making our implementation accept smaller largest_acked values, so I'm wonder if we're any closer to consensus(one way or the other) on this issue?

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----==_mimepart_5c8910f210070_490d3fba404d45c429418b4-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 07:47:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049B7130EBD for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.818 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.282, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Xvm3rP4nrRD for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AF28130EE9 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 07:47:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552488430; bh=d/vDJ/UZqjvAXf2DANN1o6K8P8V4v3tOpFyCw9mCKz0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=x4EMym5lqmfmWgI1BWr1YazVu/taFQN6eFTLcJt3/WJ8+xogBT147uqlqW2X9nBUF dqoMxpZQyAT9pOZeaK3FtGmb1JDyfGzO6hR2KM5Jz8jfK60fF6Jc9Ov5NpOcrxzqxc 5FFww2YCWwZClL+Pfvskd1qxrrqfRW6zwv0W0Ayc= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify initial UDP datagram padding (#2519) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8917ee16049_1f273fba404d45c436323e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:47:22 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8917ee16049_1f273fba404d45c436323e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Section 8.1 of the transport draft](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-19#section-8.1) states: ``` Clients MUST pad UDP datagrams that contain only Initial packets to at least 1200 bytes. ``` This seemingly says that the first UDP datagram that has two coalesced packets, Initial and 0-RTT, can be smaller than 1200 bytes. I don't believe that's the intention. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2519 ----==_mimepart_5c8917ee16049_1f273fba404d45c436323e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Section 8.1 of the transport draft states:

   Clients MUST pad UDP datagrams that contain only Initial packets to
   at least 1200 bytes.

This seemingly says that the first UDP datagram that has two coalesced packets, Initial and 0-RTT, can be smaller than 1200 bytes. I don't believe that's the intention.

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Agreed, I believe the "only" needs to removed unless I'm missing some other intent.

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@tfpauly commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,12 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
+value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
+expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).

If we're bike-shedding the grammar, I'd vote for ... this would allow a maximum stream ID .... Using "would" correlates better to the fact that this is indeed a protocol error and therefore isn't actually allowing anything.

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Separate limits apply to unidirectional and bidirectional streams. +If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a +value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be +expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}). SG, done. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2499#discussion_r265197570 ----==_mimepart_5c8926586a080_30c3fa09c2d45c049591e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -851,6 +851,12 @@ limits are set in the transport parameters (see
 using MAX_STREAMS frames ({{frame-max-streams}}). Separate limits apply to
 unidirectional and bidirectional streams.
 
+If a max_streams transport parameter or MAX_STREAMS frame is received with a
+value greater than 2^60, this allows a maximum stream ID that cannot be
+expressed as a variable-length integer (see {{integer-encoding}}).

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Closes #2519.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1468,10 +1468,11 @@ magnitude of any amplification attack that can be mounted using spoofed source
 addresses.  In determining this limit, servers only count the size of
 successfully processed packets.
 
-Clients MUST pad UDP datagrams that contain only Initial packets to at least
-1200 bytes.  Once a client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet
-it MAY send smaller datagrams.  Sending padded datagrams ensures that the server
-is not overly constrained by the amplification restriction.
+Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets are sized to
+at least 1200 bytes, padding packets in the datagram if necessary.  Once a
+client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet it MAY send smaller

To me this looks like an outdated text prior to draft-12.

Now that the server responds with an Initial packet, my understanding is that a client in required to send full-sized datagrams until it receives an Initial packet from the server.

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This change does two things:

  1. Clarify that if UDP datagram contains Initial packets, it must be at = least 1200 bytes in size; and
  2. Rule out padding the UDP datagram with junk (the "padding packets= " part) as @nibanks suggested earlier.

Issue #2519 is only about (1). Not that I am against (2), = but this is just so that we are clear.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8940cf42d00_11913ff2f76d45b4191930-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 11:18:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6E1130EF7 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:18:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UGrLh-QXIAxH for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 285DF12DF72 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 11:17:57 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552501077; bh=yMY6wKnnQgSh2ihyGj1RLpUQdY2JON6Zxs/G3W+cg8c=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rdBDxL+KqTP8VnWvBdhU0jUR4++Z6A+iUz7JXba+q8STNPL770ovP5O7N40fkJt1b yCKxKzgobuZB1MwOvBSWBL8Zw2PPILITWzSt78SopdFLVgeACAtrID0jA4D3g0Lm4Y fcNzHMSzbDSTA8cB8CM6ddbWdB3H4xZxCs++gNVI= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rephrase size requirement for Initial packets (#2520) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c894955e2e09_5e433fd21c8d45b8378551"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 18:18:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c894955e2e09_5e433fd21c8d45b8378551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1468,10 +1468,11 @@ magnitude of any amplification attack that can be mounted using spoofed source addresses. In determining this limit, servers only count the size of successfully processed packets. -Clients MUST pad UDP datagrams that contain only Initial packets to at least -1200 bytes. Once a client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet -it MAY send smaller datagrams. Sending padded datagrams ensures that the server -is not overly constrained by the amplification restriction. +Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets are sized to +at least 1200 bytes, padding packets in the datagram if necessary. Once a +client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet it MAY send smaller I think we should stick with the simplest text possible and we should remove the second sentence. Once you've received an ACK for a handshake packet, you should be done sending INITIAL packets anyway, so it feels like an unnecessary optimization. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2520#discussion_r265267670 ----==_mimepart_5c894955e2e09_5e433fd21c8d45b8378551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1468,10 +1468,11 @@ magnitude of any amplification attack that can be mounted using spoofed source
 addresses.  In determining this limit, servers only count the size of
 successfully processed packets.
 
-Clients MUST pad UDP datagrams that contain only Initial packets to at least
-1200 bytes.  Once a client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet
-it MAY send smaller datagrams.  Sending padded datagrams ensures that the server
-is not overly constrained by the amplification restriction.
+Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets are sized to
+at least 1200 bytes, padding packets in the datagram if necessary.  Once a
+client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet it MAY send smaller

I think we should stick with the simplest text possible and we should remove the second sentence. Once you've received an ACK for a handshake packet, you should be done sending INITIAL packets anyway, so it feels like an unnecessary optimization.

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I agree why Ryan. Any reasonable server is going to have a limit and will have to fail requests that violate it. It's better to have this be explicit.

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Agreed, explicit limits are good. Unexpected failures are not.

In the case of proxies, it seems like the min of the received setting and local limit could be used?

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How about SHOULD enforce, but MAY be configured to ignore, or use a higher multiple for compat reasons.

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----==_mimepart_5c8970c12635f_7cd03ffcd06d45b837915f-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 14:22:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C6B120106 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:22:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tPNwuB33rFvI for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 981F712008A for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:22:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552512149; bh=WLstLLNUcyAtRZJhfvG1430iqSt1fOGT4fxKAHT/Tc8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JdMKHLhFieRltJf7LC7oarVnXiwbp4KL8hIB904+3Gmz+pjqeCARg8BPQTHMt8RHf 8LiwwCh3TJNNJxGyassZPZTCWoYoQQUwnPxMQeu/FGeNSDyaXrD0xQUeXHkXvCg8Ql fi/L8y1MwW/jzUlsIb3LhYXPcuJOSzMelVT5JGU8= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Semantics of SETTINGS_MAX_HEADER_LIST_SIZE (#2516) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c897495663e3_eec3f9b4fcd45b8100599"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 21:22:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c897495663e3_eec3f9b4fcd45b8100599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An optional limit that's rarely enforced and, perhaps worse, unpredictably enforced seems like a waste of a limit. Implementations already have limits on the size of individual headers, which trigger semantic layer errors. Why does the sum total need to trigger a syntax type of error? Enforcing error makes this stricter than H2, hurting interoperability between implementations that support H3 and H2 at the same time. Speculating, I can see this causing some strange issues in the wild, where clients Alt-Svc up to H3, encounter a sporadic error and then purge H3 endpoints from their Alt-Svc cache. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2516#issuecomment-472610912 ----==_mimepart_5c897495663e3_eec3f9b4fcd45b8100599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

An optional limit that's rarely enforced and, perhaps worse, unpredict= ably enforced seems like a waste of a limit.

Implementations already have limits on the size of individual headers,= which trigger semantic layer errors. Why does the sum total need to trig= ger a syntax type of error?

Enforcing error makes this stricter than H2, hurting interoperability = between implementations that support H3 and H2 at the same time.

Speculating, I can see this causing some strange issues in the wild, w= here clients Alt-Svc up to H3, encounter a sporadic error and then purge = H3 endpoints from their Alt-Svc cache.

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I don't think that is sufficient. The intent of this was to allow the client to send Initial packets that acknowledge server Initial packets without padding to 1200.

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----==_mimepart_5c8977e89ced2_26703f88576d45c419136f-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 14:39:28 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8C11311D1 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:39:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 53jv5fKMtd5F for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37EEB131195 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:39:24 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552513164; bh=Rzj0aNsIuGb51EjoR2lRoNCxIvjSskYvfbQx6iLGJvk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=r9FwlJMuQPg+yuOh8JQ9VZbGqOhD8j5gbV1+JhOhVzdX62yuluXn6rdqLlN5EFPhZ aG8z/9eQ9r7SJMiWpE+8VFRTDKof8NRdgMeSTlV2WZsmdCGnIRtnY+9AO0tYEY1hwd KaQX1BguC+sqwOFQoKi+31scA7zfZH72uDyFO48w= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rephrase size requirement for Initial packets (#2520) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c89788ca333_4b063fd8c52d45b419533"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 21:39:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c89788ca333_4b063fd8c52d45b419533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that the reinterpretation of the text here has introduced the second problem @dtikhonov mentions. This also has the unfortunate consequence of disallowing small acknowledgment datagrams (for HelloRetryRequest in particular). This might need to be more carefully phrased. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2520#issuecomment-472616402 ----==_mimepart_5c89788ca333_4b063fd8c52d45b419533 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Yes. The problem here is the difficulty of the sender of the headers b= lock complying to the limit advertised by the peer. Therefore, "SHOULD en= force" does not work as a fix.

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In the case of proxies, it seems like the min of the received setting = and local limit could be used? But I guess the proxy mah not know all bac= kends it may contact when it advertises a limit. I still think something = is better than nothing, but I'm not sure how to fully solve the proxy cas= e.

FWIW, there are at least two issues regarding proxies.

  • Downstream (e.g., origin server in case of a HTTP request) having sma= ller limits. In such case, the proxy will read the request then send a LI= MIT_EXCEEDED error without forwarding the request.
  • A proxy that streams the headers block. Such a proxy cannot tell the = uncompressed size of the headers block until it receives the last byte of= the HEADERS frame. But by the time that is observed, it would already ha= ve started sending the headers to the downstream.

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Given PADDING is supposed to count towards bytes in flight, but it's not= ack-eliciting, a special case for ACK-only packets makes sense. I'd be in= clined to specify ACK-only packets as the exception, opposed to basing it o= n receiving an ACK of handshake or some other mechanism.

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As stated in
#2520 (comment), I prefer to stop requiring the use of full-sized p= ackets once the client observes a response from server. Reasons:

  • QUIC stacks would have the logic to change rules based on if the peer's= address has been validated due to the 3-packet rule on the server side. It= 's just about using the same logic for padding on the client side.
  • Implementations that prefer to pad all the Initial packets it sends can= do so anyways.
  • Regardless of what we decide, the server side logic would be indifferen= t; i.e. create new connection context only when observing a full-sized Init= ial packet.

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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552527810; bh=tq6ig3u+0Y5UtVllYETQ+/al9b4dWvTkuup7TMZGLLk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=pqmrmL7ILe/fZTRbFVQwUaYHhfKqBYvZgcqVIDHdahosHmv7kHwlWKD+qLU172x4T J8Jcbr07TeEdE0PtU0FrDrOQUqTKRUEK4LAhv/0q26jO6HbFfcFZNjQQjJ+tG0vBHY CpXdt4BkNqJPvVEU7d9PIWsOF98Yj67uruW1EWig= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify initial UDP datagram padding (#2519) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c89b1c1da35f_55123ffb9a2d45bc258092"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:43:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c89b1c1da35f_55123ffb9a2d45bc258092 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tl;dr: we should always pad to 1200 for UDP datagrams that contain Initial packets. The reason we pad to 1200 is to provide a server with plenty of inbound bytes so that it can send outbound bytes prior to path validation. Padding to 1200 has sub-optimal performance in certain cases. In particular, it makes datagrams containing a simple ACK enormous. So the original thought was to try to find a case where we could allow for smaller datagrams to be sent. I think that in both alternative designs we have a problem with the interaction with our DoS defense. And while those problems might only exist in the abstract for now, I think that the best answer is to pad to 1200 always. (I will suggest rewording the text separately.) ### Details An ACK-only Initial packet is sent at the tail of the Initial phase. That is the obvious candidate for consideration here. But there are other cases where small Initial packets might be sent. The looser requirement @kazuho suggests is less than ideal for HelloRetryRequest. A client can receive a HelloRetryRequest and be forced to send another ClientHello. We can't assume here that the server is using the HelloRetryRequest to validate the client address (though it certainly can). If the ClientHello message is small, the number of bytes that a server can send is still limited. If the client doesn't pad, the server can still count the original ClientHello toward its budget, but it doesn't get significant additional budget from the client. And that budget doesn't increase when packets are lost. So it could be that the server is stuck with 3x whatever it gets in ACKs, which is not a lot. It's worse if you consider the possibility of the ServerHello being enormous (hello PQ crypto). At this point, the server won't have validated the client address and so is still limited in what it can send. Ideally, we want the packets to be big so that the server gets more budget for sending and isn't limited to sending tiny packets. But if all the client sends is small ACK-only packets (under either proposed amendment, either what @ianswett or @kazuho describe), the increased allowance is very small. Based on this, I would suggest that we reluctantly say that all Initial-carrying datagrams need to be 1200 bytes or more. For the case of the ACK at the tail, most of the designs proposed for key discard will result in that packet not being sent. If it is sent, there are plenty of cases where it will be a packet with Initial (ACK), Handshake (ACK + ...Finished) and 1-RTT data, so the requirement is met without wasting bytes at all. But for ACK of big ServerHello messages or HelloRetryRequest, the overhead is regrettably necessary. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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tl;dr: we should always pad to 1200 for UDP datagrams that contain Ini= tial packets.

The reason we pad to 1200 is to provide a server with plenty of inboun= d bytes so that it can send outbound bytes prior to path validation. Pad= ding to 1200 has sub-optimal performance in certain cases. In particular= , it makes datagrams containing a simple ACK enormous. So the original t= hought was to try to find a case where we could allow for smaller datagra= ms to be sent.

I think that in both alternative designs we have a problem with the in= teraction with our DoS defense. And while those problems might only exis= t in the abstract for now, I think that the best answer is to pad to 1200= always.

(I will suggest rewording the text separately.)

Details

An ACK-only Initial packet is sent at the tail of the Initial phase. = That is the obvious candidate for consideration here. But there are othe= r cases where small Initial packets might be sent.

The looser requirement @kazuho suggests is less than ideal for H= elloRetryRequest. A client can receive a HelloRetryRequest and be forced= to send another ClientHello. We can't assume here that the server is us= ing the HelloRetryRequest to validate the client address (though it certa= inly can).

If the ClientHello message is small, the number of bytes that a server= can send is still limited. If the client doesn't pad, the server can st= ill count the original ClientHello toward its budget, but it doesn't get = significant additional budget from the client. And that budget doesn't i= ncrease when packets are lost. So it could be that the server is stuck w= ith 3x whatever it gets in ACKs, which is not a lot.

It's worse if you consider the possibility of the ServerHello being en= ormous (hello PQ crypto). At this point, the server won't have validated = the client address and so is still limited in what it can send. Ideally,= we want the packets to be big so that the server gets more budget for se= nding and isn't limited to sending tiny packets. But if all the client s= ends is small ACK-only packets (under either proposed amendment, either w= hat @ianswett or @kazuho describe), the increased allo= wance is very small.

Based on this, I would suggest that we reluctantly say that all Initia= l-carrying datagrams need to be 1200 bytes or more.

For the case of the ACK at the tail, most of the designs proposed for = key discard will result in that packet not being sent. If it is sent, th= ere are plenty of cases where it will be a packet with Initial (ACK), Han= dshake (ACK + ...Finished) and 1-RTT data, so the requirement is met with= out wasting bytes at all. But for ACK of big ServerHello messages or Hel= loRetryRequest, the overhead is regrettably necessary.

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SGTM.

I agree this greatly incentivizes good coalescing, but otherwise I don't see any downsides. And simple is good.

Even when suggesting the special case for ACK-only packets, it felt like a premature optimization.

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Works for me.

It's a corner case anyways. Unless HRR is involved, client will not send an Initial in response to the server's Initial, assuming we decide to continue dropping the Initial keys when the client receives a handshake packet.

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

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= =0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c89c639c85f9_30803fc5678d45c04467e-- From nobody Wed Mar 13 21:12:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F976131290 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 21:12:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9t2mitNPM-Ju for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 21:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5382131288 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2019 21:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 21:12:48 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552536768; bh=6u3p828s9Ink4x+kQ4FbJTQp2Q++L+RuPez4WG6BdN8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=bosEa3rJdqTav0AxpAKG/iF17l+MLTfxsGTfzN8yBpv28ci1AK7DI4L22wUGAY5xA JSI094C4qrXcMX0DzSZjlyLKqTEQsSlsNzX+ObRtgJfgAuIMnkZ1Y/9F82rxZxAt3P ohRc61k/RoGuejGjzCPiy54qnhFyRdDiU/fevrpQ= From: Masanori Ogino Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] QPACK: Use the term "HTTP/3" in the title (#2521) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c89d4c0aba39_1fd13fcf7f0d45c4162944"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: omasanori X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 04:12:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c89d4c0aba39_1fd13fcf7f0d45c4162944 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems appropriate given that the term is used elsewhere in the text. However, I am sorry if there is a specific reason for keeping "HTTP over QUIC" here. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2521 -- Commit Summary -- * QPACK: Use the term "HTTP/3" in the title -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (2) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2521.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2521.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2521 ----==_mimepart_5c89d4c0aba39_1fd13fcf7f0d45c4162944 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It seems appropriate given that the term is used elsewhere in the text.
However, I am sorry if there is a specific reason for keeping "HTTP over QUIC" here.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2521

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  • QPACK: Use the term "HTTP/3" in the title

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This matches HPACK (Header Compression for HTTP/2), so sure. I guess if we use vanilla QPACK for HTTP/4+ people will figure it out.

circleci failed but the error appears unrelated.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1468,10 +1468,11 @@ magnitude of any amplification attack that can be mounted using spoofed source
 addresses.  In determining this limit, servers only count the size of
 successfully processed packets.
 
-Clients MUST pad UDP datagrams that contain only Initial packets to at least
-1200 bytes.  Once a client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet
-it MAY send smaller datagrams.  Sending padded datagrams ensures that the server
-is not overly constrained by the amplification restriction.
+Clients MUST ensure that UDP datagrams containing Initial packets are sized to
+at least 1200 bytes, padding packets in the datagram if necessary.  Once a
+client has received an acknowledgment for a Handshake packet it MAY send smaller

Agreed with @ianswett since the time when you receive the ACK for the Handshake packet is exactly when you stop sending Initial frames, so this sentence feels like its pointing out a subtlety that doesn't exist.

If the point of the sentence is to say that, while UDP datagrams containing Initial packets MUST be >= 1200 bytes, all others may or may not be padded (at the implementation's discretion), it would be clearer to say:

Any UDP datagram that does not contain any Initial packets MAY be smaller than 1200 bytes.

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Initial packets need to be in 1200 byte datagrams for DoS amplification reasons. We have an exception for the case where an ACK for a Handshake packet has been received from the peer. In that case, we remove the requirement to pad.

That condition is extraordinarily obscure, especially if we are suggesting that endpoints not send any more Initial packets once they have Handshake keys. Removing this text is the right answer.

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Builds on #2520.

Closes #2522.

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  • Remove exception for Initial padding

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----==_mimepart_5c8c07356f326_345f3fec6ced45c095987f-- From nobody Fri Mar 15 13:13:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1CC130F1F for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:13:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7i174SFbv-cw for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27DD9130F1E for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:13:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552680820; bh=ROFxcLnbx+Mx4MHc6l8oDKZi9KJrhgwc+YdtQOtjjPk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=C6M8G5BsbOAh4R85t1hoJsi5uiFHi4GUmRWuEbJOciO0LZi8v27g/jEHkQmtZH6wt rhC0QU0woxh/4mYSu0PZXC8jgQqBQ9aGhmBF3jx+wy/Th2rAvDHPNiZd6Y1AAU0F91 nWFKaqNtKWdoBGv21xoelIC2LelJpEfYoqlDhCeA= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rephrase size requirement for Initial packets (#2520) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8c0774286ef_13773f7ee82d45b44909cc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:13:43 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8c0774286ef_13773f7ee82d45b44909cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As @martinthomson said, this is an editorial change, so I'm going to merge. The substantive one is in @2523. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2520#issuecomment-473426204 ----==_mimepart_5c8c0774286ef_13773f7ee82d45b44909cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As @martinthomson said, this is an editorial change, so I'm going to merge. The substantive one is in @2523.

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@dtikhonov -- you're right, but I think this was unintentional earlier. I think if we want to make a case for allowing junk, that should be discussed separately. The proposed text captures what our intent was.

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----==_mimepart_5c8c080589d09_78173fcf97ed45bc84689a-- From nobody Fri Mar 15 13:16:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FF2130EA0 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:16:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kPJsYzxhUyS3 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o7.sgmail.github.com (o7.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7EC5127962 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:16:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=AafD58ZZHwaoUaBz+NpUckM6V5U=; b=bgLhqnht67u2LqKB jasrgYuKrmkiva2KxWzNgZLnKMJDQP+4pT4b5Xmq2/S6V9PaYzEVKfDheT4ILfCO hr6emBI1qkq6auqvUwOZ9qwtoat1uku9uEapjFIc36iRylpkdyJL48M5724tRtyd PUXjrVydb6M9wWkpfo9/j8ny8wc= Received: by filter0899p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0899p1las1-14053-5C8C0827-2D 2019-03-15 20:16:39.732881232 +0000 UTC m=+9907.441384130 Received: from github-lowworker-e711880.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.45]) by ismtpd0012p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id uo1B899ITc2LETh8GbCo4w for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:16:39.581 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-e711880.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E83440DCF for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2019 13:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:16:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Remove exception for Initial padding (#2523) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8c08278891f_54063fd3c58d45b84739c5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak3jiN3+E6vPsILmVIFP2N5R6Wi1LfVUznA3T0 1a88ALslk4at1jdwaxjlN5yC06V8IB/IlmdLMP8y+F9JjiIYc7Ygz2FaGTrD1/RnJTefON+u44aDCH unuITN37kW1/8oxGYhIyYEsYyMpgDPUIeWiLZ1jtmRgrDoz0jCbj5RbF52CyvDZ2rCNBP/0ICHfMyC E= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:16:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8c08278891f_54063fd3c58d45b84739c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar approved this pull request. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2523#pullrequestreview-215230997 ----==_mimepart_5c8c08278891f_54063fd3c58d45b84739c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Fixes #1834

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ianswett commented on this pull request. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to If we're going to close the connection, can we pick an error code from the CRYPTO_ERROR section? "CRYPTO_ERROR (0x1XX):" -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@ianswett commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to

If we're going to close the connection, can we pick an error code from the CRYPTO_ERROR section? "CRYPTO_ERROR (0x1XX):"

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----==_mimepart_5c8c5960bcb4_1dd23f890aed45b81342d0-- From nobody Sat Mar 16 15:34:14 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BFC130DC2 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 15:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vk7Tj8xaQpnv for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 15:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA3B5129BBF for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2019 15:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 15:34:08 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552775648; bh=COqP6bSbr9w6AbgB80j6mSBrPQO0OZm9lczgIPS991w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=XYFeJe9optZ+p3GBfCRH8ADfb7SkRUJutA9Lj3IE7s+gx4GRDOKU3oysZjdJ+x5pG 07M/NiBhjv7cADTjQTRMV6GlAXAPwQfPHEBW7WE/uaPfY/37HKpfcHbpuFseXx7YXB v02Woaww20nUgLq3VerwbEbd7KgI6PGBtJ9rcZvE= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify behavior for post-handshake CRYPTO messages (#2524) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8d79e0703f1_ebf3fc3a94d45c014266f1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2019 22:34:13 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8d79e0703f1_ebf3fc3a94d45c014266f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. Thanks for writing this up Nick. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to +discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames +are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its ```suggestion are still ackknowledged. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its ``` > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to ```suggestion connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. If an endpoint chooses to ``` > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to +discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames +are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its +cryptographic handshake, keeping only the material needed for the current +encryption keys and any future key updates. I would drop the last sentence here. It's an optimization that is sufficiently obvious. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. I think that this needs a new section heading. Section 7.4 "After Handshake Completion" perhaps, after the transport parameters, could be what it is, but it might be better to say "Cryptographic Message Buffering" and discuss the handshake a little (more below). > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. Does this requirement apply during the handshake? Perhaps document some recommendations. Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to connection failure. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be buffered during the handshake and reduce buffering once the handshake completes. A larger limit during the handshake could allow for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

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Thanks for writing this up Nick.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data star=
t from zero in each packet number space.=0D
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoid=
s=0D
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in u=
se.=0D
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+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of=
 order.=0D
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could=0D=

+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.=0D
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.=0D
+=0D
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all dat=
a in a=0D
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY clo=
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+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint ch=
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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data star=
t from zero in each packet number space.=0D
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoid=
s=0D
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in u=
se.=0D
 =0D
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of=
 order.=0D
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could=0D=

+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.=0D
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.=0D
+=0D
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all dat=
a in a=0D
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY clo=
se the=0D
+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint ch=
ooses to=0D
+discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPT=
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+are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for i=
ts=0D
+cryptographic handshake, keeping only the material needed for the curren=
t=0D
+encryption keys and any future key updates.=0D
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I would drop the last sentence here. It's an optimization that is suf= ficiently obvious.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data star=
t from zero in each packet number space.=0D
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoid=
s=0D
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in u=
se.=0D
 =0D
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of=
 order.=0D
=0D

I think that this needs a new section heading. Section 7.4 "After Han= dshake Completion" perhaps, after the transport parameters, could be what= it is, but it might be better to say "Cryptographic Message Buffering" a= nd discuss the handshake a little (more below).

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data star=
t from zero in each packet number space.=0D
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoid=
s=0D
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in u=
se.=0D
 =0D
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of=
 order.=0D
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could=0D=

+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.=0D
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.=0D
=0D

Does this requirement apply during the handshake? Perhaps document so= me recommendations.

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Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to con= nection failure. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be buffered d= uring the handshake and reduce buffering once the handshake completes. A= larger limit during the handshake could allow for larger keys or credent= ials to be exchanged.

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the push id that links a push stream to a push promise is now an unframed varint that comes right after the stream preface.

this is right now the only unframed data (except made for the unidirectional stream prefaces) in the specs and I am proposing to make that a frame as well for consistency and to simplify implementation and allow code reuse.

motivation: the specs already define frames that only carry a single varint (mostly push related)

  • max push id
  • duplicate push
  • cancel push
  • and goaway!
    here instead we decided to leave it unframed just because we can since it is at the beginning of the stream

cost: two extra bytes per push stream

the text will need to specify that on a push stream this new frame (PUSH_ID ?) MUST be the first one, otherwise it is a protocol error.

I am happy to put up a PR, in case we reach consensus

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The varint type and length of a frame is also unframed. So you are asking to trade one unframed varint for two. Is your assertion that this is unique and difficult code to write, or that the unframed content is somehow difficult to manage?

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----==_mimepart_5c8eb050d8170_4e153ff3eeed45b42373018-- From nobody Sun Mar 17 13:59:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D01C129284 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PU-ZkLQvyBgT for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32AC4128678 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 13:59:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552856343; bh=3msQ41AjvRrzvKB9adot6z2TjxEl043ZALF/BjsiK68=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=xPw5NXTVW4KI/+GfidOXKaOvnRxJKF+tox0tamOyy08bHSm7Ac3omgzoNiIXRMGQQ nwB2dvHTgQb6LkGV+pnbfKCB76ZctsqF+237U4CpWI13GkXZzh2bNHOKxt9gqAmzLz CNzR26Eal+ToBApfYyNW+lBXBWX9NjcSNGI1A4pY= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8eb517e92e1_37a73fdd2b6d45b41225915"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 20:59:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8eb517e92e1_37a73fdd2b6d45b41225915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This seems to be going back to some of the early discussion we had on a thread I can't find. I'm not against discussing things again because we have more experience. However, I don't see a compelling reason for the change. My implementation needs to parse unframed data because of the stream header and for QPACK streams. I think this change might make my implementation more complex. Reading multiple varints requires more work: more checks to see if the stream has enough data, more checks to ensure only 1 frame sent at a specific time (this is the same as SETTINGS) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-473714174 ----==_mimepart_5c8eb517e92e1_37a73fdd2b6d45b41225915 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This seems to be going back to some of the early discussion we had on = a thread I can't find. I'm not against discussing things again because we= have more experience. However, I don't see a compelling reason for the c= hange. My implementation needs to parse unframed data because of the stre= am header and for QPACK streams.

I think this change might make my implementation more complex. Reading= multiple varints requires more work: more checks to see if the stream ha= s enough data, more checks to ensure only 1 frame sent at a specific time= (this is the same as SETTINGS)

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8eb517e92e1_37a73fdd2b6d45b41225915-- From nobody Sun Mar 17 15:44:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407E1130E5F for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wa_Td1MnsB0n for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB5BD130E5E for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:44:37 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552862677; bh=QAqGfEAzOhXZCBzwZ5rqWM+ST7INE670ELi79vI5VcE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=S2xsSYlck9s+ooy7MnfZsOBlw+nRcWMIHyR8H7e6Mzenpt1zV+j4dxl7my1d8Vm2Q vT8rH9eYR2u6lFhTElRGyDknlNaJU2gHu42zjjFybU2bMyc57WlVpCHuFRm8UbHocT DB9pSzSpSBA1SCs8V8AOtzFMntI/AGW7e2bATMpE= From: Luca Niccolini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8ecdd545c48_6b293f92278d45c01606588"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: lnicco X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 22:44:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8ecdd545c48_6b293f92278d45c01606588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The varint type and length of a frame is also unframed. @martinthomson those are in the frame header -- so they are part of the frame. I am not sure what your point is here then. Here I am assuming that an implementation has generic code to parse frames, and that parsing anything that is not part of a frame requires special handling. While this is implementation specific and there can definitely be counter examples, from an abstraction and consistency point of view I see no reason for doing it the way we are doing it now. I believe there should be two type of streams, framed (control, request, and push streams) and unframed (QPACK, and potentially extension streams). The push stream right now is a hybrid, that only becomes a framed stream after receiving that first PUSH_ID. If I am recalling correctly when we discussed potentially having DATA frames with zero-length to transition to unframed data, it was also considered a bit unusual. Here I am arguing that we are sort of doing the reverse here where we have an unframed stream that then transitions to framed. I think this generates complexity. And really the benefit we get is saving two bytes and one frame type. @lpardue I do vaguely remember that discussion and not 'wasting' frame types may have been one of the arguments when we made that decision, but that is not a problem now that we have a 62bit space for frame types. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-473722917 ----==_mimepart_5c8ecdd545c48_6b293f92278d45c01606588 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The varint type and length of a frame is also unframed.

@martinthomson those are in the frame header -- so they = are part of the frame. I am not sure what your point is here then.

Here I am assuming that an implementation has generic code to parse fr= ames, and that parsing anything that is not part of a frame requires spec= ial handling.
While this is implementation specific and there can definitely be counter= examples, from an abstraction and consistency point of view I see no rea= son for doing it the way we are doing it now.

I believe there should be two type of streams, framed (control, reques= t, and push streams) and unframed (QPACK, and potentially extension strea= ms). The push stream right now is a hybrid, that only becomes a framed st= ream after receiving that first PUSH_ID. If I am recalling correctly when= we discussed potentially having DATA frames with zero-length to transiti= on to unframed data, it was also considered a bit unusual. Here I am argu= ing that we are sort of doing the reverse here where we have an unframed = stream that then transitions to framed. I think this generates complexity= . And really the benefit we get is saving two bytes and one frame type.

@LPardue I do vaguely remember that discussion and not 'wast= ing' frame types may have been one of the arguments when we made that dec= ision, but that is not a problem now that we have a 62bit space for frame= types.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8ecdd545c48_6b293f92278d45c01606588-- From nobody Sun Mar 17 16:10:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6393130E8D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:10:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xsHxH1o4moPp for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFED8130E89 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:10:31 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552864231; bh=wkL+1g2Hu/StIEEY8iqjE9DFv+NrInqstxAsAqvFzoY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MHsD0HvQ4rQ3GPE1QXo6L+ynW6dMfZN6iJuQIE5wpnXYG/G0BWlbeebAsWvkQ9XFn 3G/j/H/cHP1/xHg6veLP5udxf486t1wHL0yCa+0PS8oYhjCleVvaj173hfTqAFepTi xUIrAGptWFvieXppgWgYIPLdTrFV95y6lle3FUtY= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8ed3e788986_63d13fbdb08d45c01804f"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 23:10:35 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8ed3e788986_63d13fbdb08d45c01804f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't care about the cost, I care about things like having to deal with PUSH_ID (or whatever) frames in places other than the start of a push stream. And I don't believe that it is difficult to take the special-case code for pulling a varint off a partially-available stream and use that for push ID. We've not had too much trouble with that so far in our implementation. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-473725100 ----==_mimepart_5c8ed3e788986_63d13fbdb08d45c01804f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't care about the cost, I care about things like having to deal w= ith PUSH_ID (or whatever) frames in places other than the start of a push= stream. And I don't believe that it is difficult to take the special-ca= se code for pulling a varint off a partially-available stream and use tha= t for push ID. We've not had too much trouble with that so far in our im= plementation.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8ed3e788986_63d13fbdb08d45c01804f-- From nobody Sun Mar 17 16:36:35 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC437130E9C for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8dmI4pWeRggt for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AA991277E7 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:36:30 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552865790; bh=UzRbwrpXiAhTXKU0vvX//3yljs3qNLVVi/r4WNykH+s=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MTrOc+NlsUzWoi9EdHuN2TEiEpNmKAu9GH01nuCa4RyCa48WOTyAiAAOjWZ3cTYKH ff22dk/WWWCXkwIXejG4D9TQxBHCCwipasi2XWznurwGmqI3fS4rxlbmNR3BONG0ba V++yWpo2BxgOBeE9C2uTD1IKeZxLRwnj2BWCIe6A= From: Luca Niccolini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8ed9fe2f2b_4ebd3f9e824d45bc2129571"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: lnicco X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 23:36:33 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8ed9fe2f2b_4ebd3f9e824d45bc2129571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it is definitely not difficult, but it is a special case and as any special case forces an increased complexity in the possible codepaths, even if not that big in this case. I am making my argument for the sake of consistency mostly, and for the fact that I believe it would also help to better define error handling. With the current text, if I receive something bogus on a push stream (after the preface) I'll have to keep the stream around (because the push stream may come out of order) waiting for a PUSH_PROMISE with that ID that may never come. So I believe that framing could help error handling as well. I do not have super strong feelings about this proposal but at the same time I'd like us to try and recall what the motivations are for the current text and for making this special since it was a while back and personally I can't recall what they were. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-473727176 ----==_mimepart_5c8ed9fe2f2b_4ebd3f9e824d45bc2129571 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

it is definitely not difficult, but it is a special case and as any sp= ecial case forces an increased complexity in the possible codepaths, even= if not that big in this case.
I am making my argument for the sake of consistency mostly, and for the f= act that I believe it would also help to better define error handling. With the current text, if I receive something bogus on a push stream (aft= er the preface) I'll have to keep the stream around (because the push str= eam may come out of order) waiting for a PUSH_PROMISE with that ID that m= ay never come.
So I believe that framing could help error handling as well.

I do not have super strong feelings about this proposal but at the sam= e time I'd like us to try and recall what the motivations are for the cur= rent text and for making this special since it was a while back and perso= nally I can't recall what they were.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8ed9fe2f2b_4ebd3f9e824d45bc2129571-- From nobody Sun Mar 17 16:50:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C802C130EA4 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:50:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k_2xg3OpRSgz for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6D411277E7 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:50:25 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552866625; bh=38wclJ4Ui0xqE6rKs0BRD/+aLoalL1g+2oSASnHMRcY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Rrp1SL6ytxpk816XB1NWPozPVLtDIJyPuS7WGrBRrX3+XQFjCgOdmrU9626v6Oka/ pztC4SV1dQ2ZY3pp22XhdOctn2P7lSAr/qlzDipKac1IApTJkd+b1UkyvH8r7tIQTp f2g8bE1X9wgKUgRMEE67GFTSyDaVZVNSgZPDzrU8= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8edd4164540_3ab93fc3a94d45c01920380"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 23:50:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8edd4164540_3ab93fc3a94d45c01920380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > With the current text, if I receive something bogus on a push stream (after the preface) I'll have to keep the stream around (because the push stream may come out of order) waiting for a PUSH_PROMISE with that ID that may never come. This sounds like the case @rmarx is looking at. I'd argue this is a good reason for the current design, frame processing should only take place once the PUSH_PROMISE is received. But I'd like to understand how framing could help avoid errors. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-473728271 ----==_mimepart_5c8edd4164540_3ab93fc3a94d45c01920380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

With the current text, if I receive something bogus on a push stream (= after the preface) I'll have to keep the stream around (because the push = stream may come out of order) waiting for a PUSH_PROMISE with that ID tha= t may never come.

This sounds like the case @rmarx is looking at. I'd argue this= is a good reason for the current design, frame processing should only ta= ke place once the PUSH_PROMISE is received.

But I'd like to understand how framing could help avoid errors.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8edd4164540_3ab93fc3a94d45c01920380-- From nobody Mon Mar 18 02:44:08 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311AA128D0B for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:44:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZdSl3Il5v8Rz for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9833128CE4 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 02:44:04 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552902244; bh=OONdAuh0xYF7RK5poIwjEyeNtn0wBUxgtXXdsnHLHtQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=y9DQMqIK31zfdT4Vl7lrNlDKKJYQHUevTdNuGlrJrqqJernzDxv4KeGMJNNP/IVFI Km7h7Va90KbNmlw0248JScJUJzyZqN46GNZ5QQrRKSIxuSB7G63aH7DQewH1/sm8s7 yWiM3Boy0BNYDQfxw6v9Fo3bMgIAgB9yJytxXQzY= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Push stream data and PUSH_PROMISE reordering clarification (#2527) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8f686489e0d_3dc53fb4beed45c419417e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 09:44:07 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8f686489e0d_3dc53fb4beed45c419417e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As discussed on Slack, currently the text makes no mention of the case where the PUSH_PROMISE arrives behind (some of) the data on the push stream itself. However, it does mention this situation for the DUPLICATE_PUSH frame. This proposed change recommends buffering pushed data for an unknown PUSH_ID and using flow control to prevent this from being a problem. I am unsure if more text is needed (e.g., what happens if the PUSH_ID is never resolved (which would mean a misbehaving server)), but I think the proposed change should suffice. This is also related to issue #2526. Thanks to @LPardue for his help. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2527 -- Commit Summary -- * Push stream data and PUSH_PROMISE reordering clarification -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-http.md (9) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2527.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2527.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2527 ----==_mimepart_5c8f686489e0d_3dc53fb4beed45c419417e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As discussed on Slack, currently the text makes no mention of the case where the PUSH_PROMISE arrives behind (some of) the data on the push stream itself. However, it does mention this situation for the DUPLICATE_PUSH frame.

This proposed change recommends buffering pushed data for an unknown PUSH_ID and using flow control to prevent this from being a problem.

I am unsure if more text is needed (e.g., what happens if the PUSH_ID is never resolved (which would mean a misbehaving server)), but I think the proposed change should suffice.

This is also related to issue #2526.
Thanks to @LPardue for his help.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2527

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  • Push stream data and PUSH_PROMISE reordering clarification

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----==_mimepart_5c8f686489e0d_3dc53fb4beed45c419417e-- From nobody Mon Mar 18 06:45:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CA8129A87 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 06:45:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xiv8QGx5U-jp for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 06:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 533D3127988 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 06:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 06:45:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552916722; bh=GMhuFesJ92C6TpPvnvGWPvq8sMKI4AhxxXJFI8DlrxA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ERqNSp4tkIgu98DCVHICC9t2pz46Nk9yyG9FItGHko0PAfEjE3FrGRotDBvLTOx+0 Guf5sFFZrGVAqKpv+3GxVLXBdPPhIkWt1OyYozWOzdEC0cRiRmubgAP577Q6ukVeoW VJdQSImSO/CmtFWHuRHBBGsVyDi/dyRLEGV8DDK0= From: Luca Niccolini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8fa0f283973_12363fe5abcd45bc162570"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: lnicco X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:45:27 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8fa0f283973_12363fe5abcd45bc162570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was not trying to solve the same problem as #2527 here, but I was mentioning the fact that I believe framing would slightly help in a subset of cases. Take a server with a buggy push implementation, rather than a malicious one. Something that doesn't send the PUSH_ID at all. On the client you'll start seeing a flow of data and you can't do anything better than parsing the first few bytes of that as a PUSH_ID, and basically see random IDs. With Framing, if a server forgets to send the PUSH_ID, it is clear at the receiver that it is a protocol error. That being said there are many other classes of bugs that may trigger the same behavior even with frames, so this is minor. > frame processing should only take place once the PUSH_PROMISE is received. @LPardue now, that seems like an implementation dependent claim :) as #2527 says (and I like it) a client should buffer any data after receiving the PUSH_ID. and that is sufficient. no mention of frames there. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-473915586 ----==_mimepart_5c8fa0f283973_12363fe5abcd45bc162570 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was not trying to solve the same problem as #2527 here= , but I was mentioning the fact that I believe framing would slightly hel= p in a subset of cases.
Take a server with a buggy push implementation, rather than a malicious o= ne. Something that doesn't send the PUSH_ID at all. On the client you'll = start seeing a flow of data and you can't do anything better than parsing= the first few bytes of that as a PUSH_ID, and basically see random IDs. = With Framing, if a server forgets to send the PUSH_ID, it is clear at the= receiver that it is a protocol error.
That being said there are many other classes of bugs that may trigger the= same behavior even with frames, so this is minor.

frame processing should only take place once the PUSH_PROMISE is recei= ved.
@LPardue now, that seems like an implementation dependent claim= :)

as #2527 says (and I like it) a client should buffer any= data after receiving the PUSH_ID. and that is sufficient. no mention of = frames there.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c8fa0f283973_12363fe5abcd45bc162570-- From nobody Mon Mar 18 11:59:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22365124BF6 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fMvyXzIxZDT5 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 11:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 367C61200D8 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 11:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 11:59:42 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552935582; bh=pF8xwMK7uYCr0xo8ISPNLiHYb6r+cm7czZzHR8vMiBQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=eu9nG8qJF0j2R1F5SEN9sp8LRxqJOcjD8oz1Od1nXFXpMEhEejPbdlPi+Zkvht9nQ cRs2+4TtjgB8a4Oxm9qKC9cJbcQgJI3vtnZMjUBbQnuckSJ45dlYVYd1v0e89KkYDg 8J1EiHWbwrrr7gKHI2ysT7WRgYub6biGiesMCJTM= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] PUSH_ID as a frame (#2526) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c8fea9ee7f8a_634b3fab470d45bc26331a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 18:59:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c8fea9ee7f8a_634b3fab470d45bc26331a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Take a server with a buggy push implementation, rather than a malicious one. Something that doesn't send the PUSH_ID at all. On the client you'll start seeing a flow of data and you can't do anything better than parsing the first few bytes of that as a PUSH_ID, and basically see random IDs. With Framing, if a server forgets to send the PUSH_ID, it is clear at the receiver that it is a protocol error. Right now in draft 19 we have: 1. Parse varint - stream type 2. Parse varint - push ID 3. Parse varint - frame type (HEADERS). The assertion then is, if step 2 gets skipped by the sender, the receiver will parse the HEADERS frame type as a varint expecting it to be the push ID (value 0x1, with no restriction on min or max encoding). It will then parse the HEADERS frame length as a varint expecting it to be the HEADERS frame type (length is unlikely to be 1). Doesn't the client just blow up at that point? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2526#issuecomment-474056430 ----==_mimepart_5c8fea9ee7f8a_634b3fab470d45bc26331a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Take a server with a buggy push implementation, rather than a maliciou= s one. Something that doesn't send the PUSH_ID at all. On the client you'= ll start seeing a flow of data and you can't do anything better than pars= ing the first few bytes of that as a PUSH_ID, and basically see random ID= s. With Framing, if a server forgets to send the PUSH_ID, it is clear at = the receiver that it is a protocol error.

Right now in draft 19 we have:

  1. Parse varint - stream type
  2. Parse varint - push ID
  3. Parse varint - frame type (HEADERS).

The assertion then is, if step 2 gets skipped by the sender, the recei= ver will parse the HEADERS frame type as a varint expecting it to be the = push ID (value 0x1, with no restriction on min or max encoding). It will = then parse the HEADERS frame length as a varint expecting it to be the HE= ADERS frame type (length is unlikely to be 1). Doesn't the client just bl= ow up at that point?

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It was just an example. And as I said I don't feel strongly about the = error handling nit.
But if you must, yes if you assume headers is the first frame after the p= ush_id then yes you would read 0x1 which is conveniently a server initiat= ed bidirectional stream which is not allowed anyway, so you could reject = it immediately. But I find this just fortuitous.

For example, one could make a counter argument: why are we framing SET= TINGS at all given that it is the first message on the control stream ? We also defined it quite clearly in this table what to do with it [Certai= n frames can only occur as the first frame of a particular stream type; t= hese are indicated in Table 1 with a (1).]
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-19#sec= tion-4
Is there zero value in doing that for the PUSH_ID as well?
I personally think there is.

Anyway, I think we are diverting this the wrong route.
All I am looking for here is a good explanation for why it is defined lik= e it is now, and I am failing to find it.
As far as the implementation goes it makes little difference, and I guess= it is more of a consistency problem for me. That naked varint on the wir= e triggers my OCD :)

So instead of going back and forth like this, perhaps @MikeBi= shop can shed some light on the good reasons why it is this way.

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Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to The CRYPTO_ERRORs are TLS alerts (which are one byte) converted into QUIC error codes, so we can't pick one of those. I've created a new one CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. I moved this to the end of section 7 in a new subsection. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to Done. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to +discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames +are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its Done. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to +discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames +are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its +cryptographic handshake, keeping only the material needed for the current +encryption keys and any future key updates. Dropped. > @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space. Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol. This avoids situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use. +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data. Yes, it applies during the handshake. I've updated the text to discuss buffer sizing and separate out pre- vs post-handshake completion behavior. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to

The CRYPTO_ERRORs are TLS alerts (which are one byte) converted into QUIC error codes, so we can't pick one of those. I've created a new one CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.

I moved this to the end of section 7 in a new subsection.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to

Done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to
+discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames
+are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its

Done.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.
+
+Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a
+CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the
+connection with an INTERNAL_ERROR code. In the case where an endpoint chooses to
+discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames
+are still ACKed. An endpoint in this condition MAY tear down state for its
+cryptographic handshake, keeping only the material needed for the current
+encryption keys and any future key updates.

Dropped.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -1232,6 +1232,19 @@ handshake data start from zero in each packet number space.
 Endpoints MUST explicitly negotiate an application protocol.  This avoids
 situations where there is a disagreement about the protocol that is in use.
 
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, and endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data.

Yes, it applies during the handshake.

I've updated the text to discuss buffer sizing and separate out pre- vs post-handshake completion behavior.

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+1 to levelling up, I'll take acknowledge my guilt here. But before I = move on:

push_id then yes you would read 0x1 which is conveniently a server ini= tiated bidirectional stream which is not allowed anyway, so you could rej= ect it immediately

If your at the stage of parsing QUIC STREAM frame payload, you should = already know exactly what the stream ID is.

Some historic points I remember:

In Paris MT presented some ideas for unidirecitonal streams. This rela= tes to issue #281 and PR #701.

Push and control streams were identified then. And we were happy with = reserving specific stream IDs for certain things. All non-reserved stream= s were server push streams. Subsequent data on the stream only makes logi= cal sense to handle if you know what push it relates to, so those bytes g= o first.

Roll forward some, QPACK design requires additional streams so those g= et reserved to. Around Kista, the topic of unidirectional stream types co= mes up. Without types, we make uncoordinated unidirecitonal stream extens= ions quite a difficult thing. So add more bytes at the start of stream an= d remove reservations.

For example, one could make a counter argument: why are we framing SET= TINGS at all given that it is the first message on the control stream ?

The SETTINGS frame can contain a set of parameters, indeed it SHOULD c= ontain at least one GREASE setting. A single SETTINGS frame that describe= s the length of all parameters is quite useful, you know when the peer ha= s finished sending all of them. I don't see as much value for PUSH_PROMIS= E because you're just framing a single integer that describes its own len= gth already.

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But if you must, yes if you assume headers is the first frame after th= e push_id then yes you would read 0x1 which is conveniently a server init= iated bidirectional stream which is not allowed anyway, so you could reje= ct it immediately. But I find this just fortuitous.

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I think that this is good. Thanks for doing the hard work Nick. I believe that this issue can be resolved without chair involvement as it is a conclusion from the Tokyo meeting. > +## Cryptographic Message Buffering + +Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order. +Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could +potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data. + +Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received in +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of the connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection +failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand +its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand +its buffer, it MAY close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error ```suggestion its buffer, it MUST close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error ``` I don't see any other recourse, do you? > +CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be +buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow +for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does +not need to remain constant during the life of the connection. + +Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection +failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand +its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand +its buffer, it MAY close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error +code. + +Once the handshake completes, if an endpoint is unable to buffer all data in a +CRYPTO frame, it MAY discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, or it MAY close the +connection with an CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error code. If an endpoint chooses to +discard all subsequent CRYPTO frames, the packets containing these CRYPTO frames +are still acknowledged. ```suggestion MUST be acknowledged. ``` -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2524#pullrequestreview-215880600 ----==_mimepart_5c9019ac1109c_30ad3f87bc0d45c0462876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of=
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+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.=0D
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+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data recei=
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+CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to b=
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I don't see any other recourse, do you?

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

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+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could=
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+its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot =
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-are still acknowledged.=0D
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Seems like a good editorial improvement.

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 requested resource is already being pushed.=0D
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+PUSH_PROMISE, in which case both the associated client request and the p=
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  • 4ae94eb Change some things to MUST

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +## Cryptographic Message Buffering
+
+Implementations need to maintain a buffer of CRYPTO data received out of order.
+Because there is no flow control of CRYPTO frames, an endpoint could
+potentially force its peer to buffer an unbounded amount of data.
+
+Implementations MUST support buffering at least 4096 bytes of data received in
+CRYPTO frames out of order. Endpoints MAY choose to allow more data to be
+buffered during the handshake. A larger limit during the handshake could allow
+for larger keys or credentials to be exchanged. An endpoint's buffer size does
+not need to remain constant during the life of the connection.
+
+Being unable to buffer CRYPTO frames during the handshake leads to a connection
+failure. If an endpoint's buffer is exceeded during the handshake, it can expand
+its buffer temporarily to complete the handshake. If an endpoint cannot expand
+its buffer, it MAY close the connection with a CRYPTO_BUFFER_EXCEEDED error

I was thinking it could grow its buffer, but I've already preconditioned with it not doing that, so a MUST here makes sense.

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All of them have defaults.

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If you mean "Is sending TP mandatory", I don't think so. An endpoint that doesn't receive a TP assumes the default value. An endpoint that uses a default value does not need to advertise it.

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----==_mimepart_5c903823e0423_7c333ffba18d45b413169-- From nobody Mon Mar 18 17:33:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BA9130E6A for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:33:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5iQbYeuYmP90 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C31D31277E7 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2019 17:33:16 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552955596; bh=pgKbbgKYF9Q7tLVyhvDRm3C/wKNU6i0qEZ+nrkeI8RQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=M8pauZe4hqxPtbC7NpJ51B6gVLFagOCiG4Nz4yXjMqV1c6OUy0mrJXyDgUa54+E1K r7kb1ZUG2eBfqTK5A+Al2K/cZUxwwPamfLOf1kpa8CfyZjGW5Nt4tnXSb/EJQg09xG mRC2G1iuHwqZNzPhgXjWNT8TZcEBO495e7a04atA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Are transport parameters mandatory? (#2528) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9038ccacb29_781e3f8c780d45b4164598"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 00:33:19 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9038ccacb29_781e3f8c780d45b4164598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The issue could have been more precisely worded. The question was about the entire QUIC transport parameters extension. Individual parameters are still clearly optional. We should be very crisp about that. Up until -18, this was mandatory, but we don't need the version parameters any more. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2528#issuecomment-474152870 ----==_mimepart_5c9038ccacb29_781e3f8c780d45b4164598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The issue could have been more precisely worded. The question was abo= ut the entire QUIC transport parameters extension. Individual parameters= are still clearly optional.

We should be very crisp about that. Up until -18, this was mandatory,= but we don't need the version parameters any more.

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@MikeBishop, seems this support is removed ? now it's cov= ered by {Connection Migration} part?
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We discussed this in Tokyo (minutes), and there are basically 3 options= here:

  • Implement proper flow control for CRYPTO frames
  • Specify a buffer size (50k is the example from the Tokyo discussion)<= /li>
  • Drop CRYPTO frames if an endpoint has to buffer too many

My sense of the room was that the 3rd option was the preferred option = for now.

When we have TLS extensions where we care about reliable delivery of p= ost-handshake messages, that sounds like a good time to add proper flow c= ontrol. I don't like picking a fixed buffer size for the same reason as u= sing timers for discarding keys. If we pick a buffer size now, how do we = know that it will be big enough for whatever future TLS extensions might = get used with QUIC (or future key exchanges)?

I don't think that this breaks a rule of acknowledging packets means t= hat the peer has processed all frames in that packet. For example, if an = endpoint receives a packet containing stream data that is a retransmissio= n of previously received data, that endpoint in effect is dropping that S= TREAM frame. Here, the CRYPTO frame is being processed (and the endpoint = is immediately choosing to do nothing based on it).

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----==_mimepart_5c90baa199d00_5f873f94d44d45c452156-- From nobody Tue Mar 19 02:48:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E80D131219 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fp2Ky8NdLIrd for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0415131200 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 02:48:03 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1552988883; bh=nkAxARJlRuqNNzpKNa3HStqMK2QDK+xh6iRjOMcdcSg=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=rhhmYJdhKnuzh4j9wgxiVbFRkAHmh2vnZvS7nZtjLGUUwsJcIBZyHCbiSnVUvXTuL 4ao0s/DKbvcvn5RPFmvgvOgt7dyQ+G7h52dpZ6eHwtdrw+JllhJI2roQ25H1QuzQqo WvnY57sxApDzRGv/zYzQwhDnrnoaa/iqhSoCo3nI= From: Robin Marx Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Push stream data and PUSH_PROMISE reordering clarification (#2527) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c90bad36a1c_603c3fcad70d45bc718e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: rmarx X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:48:06 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c90bad36a1c_603c3fcad70d45bc718e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rmarx commented on this pull request. > @@ -1207,7 +1207,14 @@ the requests if the requested resource is already being pushed. When a server later fulfills a promise, the server push response is conveyed on a push stream (see {{push-streams}}). The push stream identifies the Push ID of the promise that it fulfills, then contains a response to the promised request -using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}. +using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}. Due to +reordering, data on a push stream can arrive before the corresponding +PUSH_PROMISE, in which case both the associated client request and the pushed +request headers are unknown. Clients which receive a new push stream with an That was based on identical text for DUPLICATE_PUSH a few lines up. I've now also changed that to keep consistency. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2527#discussion_r266802290 ----==_mimepart_5c90bad36a1c_603c3fcad70d45bc718e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@rmarx commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1207,7 +1207,14 @@ the requests if the requested resource is already being pushed.
 When a server later fulfills a promise, the server push response is conveyed on
 a push stream (see {{push-streams}}). The push stream identifies the Push ID of
 the promise that it fulfills, then contains a response to the promised request
-using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}.
+using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}. Due to
+reordering, data on a push stream can arrive before the corresponding
+PUSH_PROMISE, in which case both the associated client request and the pushed
+request headers are unknown. Clients which receive a new push stream with an

That was based on identical text for DUPLICATE_PUSH a few lines up. I've now also changed that to keep consistency.

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As discussed in Tokyo, we should allow endpoints to avoid creating the
QPACK control streams if they are unnecessary, but endpoints should be
allowed to create them either way.

Fixes #2100

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2529

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  • Allow not creating QPACK codec streams

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I made #2529 to try and put into writing what was discussed in Tokyo since there hasn't been any actiity in a while. Incidentally we run into the problem of allowing endpoints to create all QPACK control streams while interop'ing between quant and quiche HTTP/3.

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@dtikhonov requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
-initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
-instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type
+initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second

Each endpoint MUST initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream.

This may be interpreted as "each endpoint MUST create an encoder and a decoder stream," which is contrary to this PR. I suggest we rephrase this.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Why?

One way to prevent the peer from creating QPACK streams is to set the limit of unidirectional streams to 1 in the transport parameters.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Going back over some of the discussion thread on this topic, was the preference to do lazy loading of streams in response to SETTINGS? In which case, when an endpoint receives a SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY it should send a QUIC MAX_STREAMS to allow the peer to open the encoder stream, and hope that the peer has also given enough streams to open the decoder stream.

Its hard to tell from the different threads what the consensus was.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of

If I don't want to use an encoder stream, I still have to open it if the table size is non-zero? I thought the intent was to be permissive of not opening, so this seems unintentionally restrictive.

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----==_mimepart_5c90fce0e1264_2b3e3f89dccd45c41452e5-- From nobody Tue Mar 19 07:36:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9D1131201 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v6ghBOu-ujNU for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 07:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C2AB13131D for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 07:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 07:36:45 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553006205; bh=5gUVIG9sa1k6sdpxL1+TSNBpCt5PX6H0gprJtjhxMMk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=EgRPFt6ZxwTuTdPxgPYwfsKPrOSdPmie0Lrkg4AhCda/6mQnaqocYRvuSxMAt/OAc WiFbi7/DrOLri5hqAg78GZLQ8lhafjXOQ6i2sqEce6pi3QxzL6UMVVFetRGFSwqNQ7 x+f53HWkkrntOq8b7GcRdCG5Bbr3jkNkCwVL3lHI= From: Marten Seemann Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify behavior for post-handshake CRYPTO messages (#2524) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c90fe7de5564_793c3fec0a6d45bc2767e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: marten-seemann X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:36:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c90fe7de5564_793c3fec0a6d45bc2767e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't think that this breaks a rule of acknowledging packets means that the peer has processed all frames in that packet. For example, if an endpoint receives a packet containing stream data that is a retransmission of previously received data, that endpoint in effect is dropping that STREAM frame. I don't think this is a fair characterization. For the sender, it doesn't really matter if it was this copy of the data, or an earlier STREAM frame containing exactly the same data. The ACK signals that the data was delivered to the application, and that's all that matters. > Here, the CRYPTO frame is being processed (and the endpoint is immediately choosing to do nothing based on it). Exactly the opposite. Processing the CRYPTO frame would mean to deliver it to the TLS stack. Here it's dropped one layer below that. Everywhere else in the spec, we use "processing" in the sense that the data has been acted upon, not in the sense that the frame was merely parsed. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2524#issuecomment-474398859 ----==_mimepart_5c90fe7de5564_793c3fec0a6d45bc2767e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't think that this breaks a rule of acknowledging packets means t= hat the peer has processed all frames in that packet. For example, if an = endpoint receives a packet containing stream data that is a retransmissio= n of previously received data, that endpoint in effect is dropping that S= TREAM frame.

I don't think this is a fair characterization. For the sender, it does= n't really matter if it was this copy of the data, or an earlier STREAM f= rame containing exactly the same data. The ACK signals that the data was = delivered to the application, and that's all that matters.

Here, the CRYPTO frame is being processed (and the endpoint is immedia= tely choosing to do nothing based on it).

Exactly the opposite. Processing the CRYPTO frame would mean to delive= r it to the TLS stack. Here it's dropped one layer below that. Everywhere= else in the spec, we use "processing" in the sense that the data has bee= n acted upon, not in the sense that the frame was merely parsed.

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I think this is definitely in a gray area. Generally, I view the action of sending an ACK for a packet as saying "I've received the data you sent me, and I don't need that data any more. Don't retransmit it." It's really up to the receiver to decide what that means. The sender can then always safely assume the data doesn't need to be retransmitted. It can't know when (or if) the data ever gets delivered to the next layer; whether that's the application sitting on top of a stream or TLS on top of the crypto stream. Only by receiving data from that next layer in response can the original sender know for sure.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of

I think this is telling that the current definition of signalling around QPACK is all a bit wrong. The receiver tells the sender if it is willing to support dynamic compression but there is no explicit signal it will happen until a stream is opened, are we happy with that?

For @ianswett's issue, an additional clause to this sentence could help e.g.

"An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero, or if the endpoint doesn't want to use the dynamic table."

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Is this buffering covering the internal TLS state engine, or is that separate?

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----==_mimepart_5c910a3f692f8_293e3fb1906d45bc2397a8-- From nobody Tue Mar 19 10:26:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07A013155E for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 10:25:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f64_X0B7mT5P for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9881B131575 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 10:25:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553016354; bh=CHTq3uBIubSBdk4qfPNaex/2PaqA41Ahmv2n2/5fNeY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=1RJZ06QuMD6Zhz46iVaFi29NIDoUN5whbRTYAlbegR9EfmP8ksTZIy13TMVkOSmER 3x+vteMrV8A2CaVrCfCgOG8sx8RDZjUXA7AlxNpd3R9b6vRg+HFZR01LJdMV3eLxij XXGGE6A8bQ7GzkDQSrCrE52boLVWItwQBUvq7fFM= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Server's preferred address (#1251) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c91262243320_1cba3fb4406d45b4151622"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:26:02 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c91262243320_1cba3fb4406d45b4151622 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi @GuShuhengSimon this feature is supported by QUIC. It uses the `preferred_address` transport parameter. See [Section 9.6 of draft-19](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-transport-19#section-9.6) -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1251#issuecomment-474480589 ----==_mimepart_5c91262243320_1cba3fb4406d45b4151622 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi @GuShuhengSimon this feature is supported by QUIC. It uses the preferred_address transport parameter.

See Section 9.6 of draft-19

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One nice property of making the TLS transport parameters extensions mandatory is that it helps mitigate cross-protocol attacks: QUIC servers can abort the connection if it's missing and TLS over TCP servers can abort if the extension is present.

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Is this buffering covering the internal TLS state engine, or is that sep= arate?

This is buffering in the QUIC layer (specifically buffering out of order= data that can't be delivered to the TLS stack) - the TLS stack probably ha= s its own internal buffers, but that's opaque to QUIC.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
-initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
-instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type
+initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second

Agrees to @dtikhonov. Maybe adding something like following immediately after could be sufficient. "Endpoints MAY avoid creating encoder streams if they are not going to be used. They MAY avoid or defer the creation of a decoder stream."

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I think we can call the entire extension as an option.

As to @DavidSchinazi's point, I'm not sure if it helps= in practice. TLS 1.3 stacks that run on top of TCP does not have (and it= 's doubtful if all of them would have) the capability to detect and raise= an error when it sees the QUIC TP extension.

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Our defense for cross-protocol attacks is ALPN. Then key separation, and probably other things. While layers of defense is generally a good idea, that isn't a necessary layer.

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As @nharper says, the TLS stack will be expecting data to be = delivered in order. If it can't keep up, or data arrives waaay out of or= der, that is when the transport needs to decide what to do. (That is why= this text belongs in the transport doc and not the TLS one, in case peop= le were wondering.)

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----==_mimepart_5c917f4b6775c_3e873fd6944d45b81361de-- From nobody Tue Mar 19 16:46:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BD6130DEF for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 16:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TuATrTlZackx for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 16:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BEF7130F08 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 16:46:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=8E/6IY7Q/07cyr5Yl8haMmzxy40=; b=oOBpro7aBKKeP5Xs 0/ZJ/sk0trbg8hXfb9UDfeJhNvfYYxK1m1k4wpzxxtepXMwivAThUQyOCOvFzoOI AD2FzZYw+ObYKwP/oEQiahQ47LIxRpOUq4fsCGxn3+oRjTSw0CSdHb7FZgET1o+6 PZwPC5LdolQX4igTRDfwMruHvHQ= Received: by filter1678p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1678p1mdw1-18053-5C917F4B-C 2019-03-19 23:46:19.473698255 +0000 UTC m=+299672.260507122 Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) by ismtpd0053p1mdw1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 2AmH0hkPTIiVTaj872IceA for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:46:19.445 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:46:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Specify what occurs when the maximum Stream Id exceeds 2^62 - 1 in MAX_STREAMS (#2487) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c917f4bf30a_71983fbbd58d45c0119095"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2AALSYeMWdASTYYNr23puroC+ZBgVgK+MYEf 3DwpGxPrdUvXDz/hDUOHD+p2cSwkyKdJbfF3zcLIW2f+triazeVr1IK1c6q9KRw3ahsRZoD0WHwoRe 2ai3H1zQMuocyMmfGKg30XqbNGUEMFtIL8dU9ciuHW7LPu7iIBMuh6ZDIJvyq4V/Dths1P5GIZfTFu Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 23:46:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c917f4bf30a_71983fbbd58d45c0119095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Closed #2487 via #2499. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2487#event-2215326553 ----==_mimepart_5c917f4bf30a_71983fbbd58d45c0119095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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(#2528) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c91b27b9f146_7ed93fe5b04d45c41390cb"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 03:24:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c91b27b9f146_7ed93fe5b04d45c41390cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @kazuho's and @martinthomson's points. This was more of a belt-and-suspenders approach. 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I agree with @kazuho's and @martinthomson's point= s. This was more of a belt-and-suspenders approach. That said, I still th= ink every single deployment will actually send transport parameters, ther= efore requiring the extension to be present sounds simpler to implement. = But I don't feel too strongly about this.

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The question arose when we realized that you can have a perfectly functional stack with the defaults. And it was non- trivial sending any.

However, if the client doesn't send any, it prevents the server from sending any. That seems bad.

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Fixes #2443.

Leave 0x8 open and unreserved so that some future extension document can use it for WebSockets (if they so wish).

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2530

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  • Bump SETTINGS_NUM_PLACEHOLDERS codepoint to 0x9

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----==_mimepart_5c922692aa84c_636c3f9742ed45b8361524-- From nobody Wed Mar 20 06:37:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E996128B33 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2dawErfrqscY for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 381A0128664 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:37:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553089070; bh=F+2ePX4OGZzC/PD7ZiTRC8xkrfZZqLu9v2w9YlqF8lE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ln6iUiyCP80Ku3keXQKInzQtpHVa3BD1H/3aHJV6MN1htMz5jsbPxzq+NsnpTzI8h 4uQx4dkj+pV4Heb3/VAQWTFzW8wVBcFU3PD+cCsqa7wBXLTzX2W5iyAfuRpEjXUtWO Z2ol2wjFGW8aPjzxKHRwA2D2z3ZsBGwX5rpmFEGo= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] spin bit intro: information can't be used "for" techniques (#2531) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92422efff1_21283fa362cd45c0957ac"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:37:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92422efff1_21283fa362cd45c0957ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The [spin bit draft](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-spin-exp-01) states: > QUIC's wire image [...] does not expose any information that can be used for passive latency measurement techniques that rely on this information The wording "information that can be used for [...] measurement techniques" can stand improvement. The information is either 1. used *for* measurement; or 1. used *by* techniques. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2531 ----==_mimepart_5c92422efff1_21283fa362cd45c0957ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The spin bit draft states:

QUIC's wire image [...] does not expose any information that can be used for passive latency measurement techniques that rely on this information

The wording "information that can be used for [...] measurement techniques" can stand improvement. The information is either

  1. used for measurement; or
  2. used by techniques.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Hmmm, I think I was reading #2100 (comment) wrong.

But yeah, the intention there was to disallow setting the uni streams limit to less than 3 in order to allow the other side to open all of their streams. This is effectively what the spec says right now I think, since each side MUST create their streams and if the peer's limits prevent that, than the endpoint can't create them.

I would also be fine aloowing one side to prevent the other from opening and making that not an error, but either way I think we should specifiy what to do since the spec right now is far from clear on this.

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These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of +the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero. + +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of +its own dynamic table is zero. + +An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams > Hmmm, I think I was reading #2100 (comment) wrong. > > But yeah, the **intention there was to disallow setting the uni streams limit to less than 3** in order to allow the other side to open all of their streams. (Emphasis added) I see how you get that from that comment by @MikeBishop: > Discussed in Tokyo; do not require creating the streams, but creating them is not forbidden even if the setting prevents their use But the "setting" refers to the QPACK settings -- namely, the size of the dynamic table -- and not to the stream limits. Otherwise, how could it not be forbidden to create streams over the stream number limits specified by the peer? I agree that more clarity is required. My preference would be to allow the unidirectional stream limit to be set to 1 to allow just the HTTP Control Stream. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2529#discussion_r267493738 ----==_mimepart_5c928a7c641ad_35953ff824cd45b8189128 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Hmmm, I think I was reading #2100 (comment) wrong.

But yeah, the intention there was to disallow setting the uni streams limit to less than 3 in order to allow the other side to open all of their streams.

(Emphasis added)

I see how you get that from that comment by @MikeBishop:

Discussed in Tokyo; do not require creating the streams, but creating them is not forbidden even if the setting prevents their use

But the "setting" refers to the QPACK settings -- namely, the size of the dynamic table -- and not to the stream limits. Otherwise, how could it not be forbidden to create streams over the stream number limits specified by the peer?

I agree that more clarity is required. My preference would be to allow the unidirectional stream limit to be set to 1 to allow just the HTTP Control Stream.

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  • Many frames have flags in the type now

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Nice.

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I thought we were moving towards key separation between QUIC = and TCP/TLS, but not secret separation. Even with key update, we= get key separation when using the quic labels for key and iv, and I see = no reason to also worry about the label when we update the secret.

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I find this proposal tp be most straightforward of the three. It is clear and unambiguous signal with a minimum-size frame that allows us to drop keys without fussing with timers or messy logic around what the peer has "proven".

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I think my last update is still accurate and I don't see a way to improve the current mechanism that doesn't greatly increase spurious handshake retransmits, so I'm going to mark it as fixed.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -when accepting 0-RTT data.  A server uses the transport parameters in
-determining whether to accept 0-RTT data.
-
-A server MAY accept 0-RTT and subsequently provide different values for
-transport parameters for use in the new connection.  If 0-RTT data is accepted
-by the server, the server MUST NOT reduce any limits or alter any values that
-might be violated by the client with its 0-RTT data.  In particular, a server
-that accepts 0-RTT data MUST NOT set values for the following parameters
-({{transport-parameter-definitions}}) that are smaller
-than the remembered value of those parameters.
+The value of the server's previous original_connection_id, preferred_address,
+stateless_reset_token, and ack_delay_exponent MUST NOT be used when
+establishing a new connection; rather, the client should wait to observe the
+server's new values in the handshake.
+
+The client MAY store the server's original max_ack_delay and max_packet_size

OK, I'll make it a MUST

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

>  ### Values of Transport Parameters for 0-RTT {#zerortt-parameters}
 
-A client that attempts to send 0-RTT data MUST remember the transport parameters
-used by the server.  The transport parameters that the server advertises during
-connection establishment apply to all connections that are resumed using the
-keying material established during that handshake.  Remembered transport
+The transport parameters that the server advertises during connection
+establishment generally apply to all connections that are resumed using

I took the first paragraph wholesale. I think "applies to the connection as a whole" is a confusing construction (all params apply affect the whole connection). Let me know what you think of the rewording.

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

I don't want to hold up this PR forever on this point, but do @mt and @mikkelfj still disagree that QUIC is providing a record abstraction?

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These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of @LPardue : The explicit signal is the arrival of a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction on the encoder stream with a non-zero capacity (or perhaps the arrival of a header block with a non-zero Required Insert Count, if there's reordering or loss). I don't see any problem with this - what's the specific concern? It's actually an improvement over HPACK, where the receiver assumes the sender will use the table by virtue of the non-zero default max capacity. Implementations that never use the dynamic table might not be kind enough to send an Update Table Size with size=0. For the language here, would it read better the other way around: "The encoder need only open the encoder stream if it wishes to use the dynamic table and is permitted to do so by the decoder" - or something to that effect? > HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of +the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero. + +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of +its own dynamic table is zero. + +An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams > Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter initial_max_uni_streams. I think the current consensus regarding QPACK streams is that you cannot prevent their creation, so clients and servers MUST give 3 or more. 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@afrind commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of

@LPardue : The explicit signal is the arrival of a Set Dynamic Table Capacity instruction on the encoder stream with a non-zero capacity (or perhaps the arrival of a header block with a non-zero Required Insert Count, if there's reordering or loss). I don't see any problem with this - what's the specific concern?

It's actually an improvement over HPACK, where the receiver assumes the sender will use the table by virtue of the non-zero default max capacity. Implementations that never use the dynamic table might not be kind enough to send an Update Table Size with size=0.

For the language here, would it read better the other way around:

"The encoder need only open the encoder stream if it wishes to use the dynamic table and is permitted to do so by the decoder" - or something to that effect?

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter initial_max_uni_streams.

I think the current consensus regarding QPACK streams is that you cannot prevent their creation, so clients and servers MUST give 3 or more. If we allow the peer to limit to one unidirectional stream, there's potentially nothing from stopping an implementation from using that to create an encoder or decoder stream.

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PR #2501 kicked up a bit more controversy than expected, so I'm opening an issue. Currently he Empty bits it the PRIORITY frame MUST be zero and MUST be ignored by the receiver.

In most other areas, we're killing connections for this kind of violation. Then again, HTTP/3 is a different protocol from QUIC.

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@mt I agree we should probably discuss in person

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@dtikhonov commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

I think the current consensus regarding QPACK streams is that you cannot prevent their creation

What does that mean -- "[one] cannot prevent their creation?" Surely, setting the limit low does just that.

The general MO of this WG has been to assume that the implementers are capable of making sensible choices. Creating an unnecessary QPACK stream instead of the HTTP Control Stream when the allowance is just one stream is far from a subtle "gotcha."

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Section 13.3.2 "ECN Verification"

If an endpoint sets ECT codepoints on outgoing IP packets and encounters a retransmission timeout due to the absence of acknowledgments from the peer (see {{QUIC-RECOVERY}}), or if an endpoint has reason to believe that an element on the network path might be corrupting ECN codepoints, the endpoint MAY cease setting ECT codepoints...

Although I understand the intent here, retransmission timeouts, as a term, don't exist anymore in QUIC except during handshakes.

Disabling ECN after any PTO firing seems a bit extreme, so I'd like to see a better recommendation here, which covers both handshakes and short headers.

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These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of +the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero. + +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of +its own dynamic table is zero. + +An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams The trap here is that a peer sets initial uni directional streams. And then may increase this value. Uni directional stream accounting needs to factor in qpack, push promise and whatever other extension mechanisms might come to pass. The explicit signal that's missing is for QPACK off. If you dont tell the peer you wont use QPACK, and it advertised a size > 0. It will have to entertain that this could happen at any point in the connection. In a pathological case, you give me 3 credits and I use them to send control and 2 grease streams. What happens next? I think these sorts of issues will come to light, the specs are not so helpful in guidance right now. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2529#discussion_r267535756 ----==_mimepart_5c92a4beb1c94_7b663fbc3acd45c03246d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

The trap here is that a peer sets initial uni directional streams. And then may increase this value.

Uni directional stream accounting needs to factor in qpack, push promise and whatever other extension mechanisms might come to pass.
The explicit signal that's missing is for QPACK off. If you dont tell the peer you wont use QPACK, and it advertised a size > 0. It will have to entertain that this could happen at any point in the connection.

In a pathological case, you give me 3 credits and I use them to send control and 2 grease streams. What happens next?

I think these sorts of issues will come to light, the specs are not so helpful in guidance right now.

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----==_mimepart_5c92a4beb1c94_7b663fbc3acd45c03246d4-- From nobody Wed Mar 20 13:42:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5850013116A for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:42:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BckogsrJoXL3 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1CE0131146 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:42:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553114573; bh=e6wExQYGXIyWrOMa/5UEu7/hSCSys48zI4685overGE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=SJ9jre6oWxyii0B0DaMcG55gojxR7jXSPRCjj94RAmPMmPBv7m+19/d2tSg0wJfrh ZWbnRdijMOtouJaCiuHsYzCn4Ppk05pnYHKhmzeEnasaTbIXE5NanwJlLpzWPdjVZx 19PkONDBjY5Fmqa05GHetzSEN/v2KT5PDQnRtzx4= From: Lucas Pardue Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Handling of PRIORITY Frame Empty bits (#2533) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92a5cd96786_6eff3fe0d9cd45c05540e8"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: LPardue X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:42:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92a5cd96786_6eff3fe0d9cd45c05540e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can live with must be zero and connection error if not. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2533#issuecomment-475020022 ----==_mimepart_5c92a5cd96786_6eff3fe0d9cd45c05540e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I can live with must be zero and connection error if not.

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Which means drop requirement to ignore them.

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----==_mimepart_5c92a5df29082_3df83fa9010d45b43401be-- From nobody Wed Mar 20 13:47:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFFE129A87 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:47:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.456 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a7GSVvsabcGL for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 536F6124BF6 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:47:51 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553114871; bh=nJ+NWW/YqlE9565H0l0AHGHhzwtdlsT36b6dzeogjQo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FervymMjD9c5gYUmg0YoxOGbCqCrt8RIgADeEBFIaiur3YAmCWmXDorASrbgsRNhg jXZGciTUblbectMjMEkfivZ3LRp7fikoxTJsmAYaW+/YkGwrREONrxnZUQw/q4Bl8m xXUsqbuw+WbaejFPxL7/LjdLx414ALRt0sx/IVQI= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Handling of PRIORITY Frame Empty bits (#2533) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92a6f76338f_73963ff1c74d45c42515e2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:47:54 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92a6f76338f_73963ff1c74d45c42515e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd keep the requirement to ignore them on receipt -- why require more unnecessary checking? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2533#issuecomment-475021756 ----==_mimepart_5c92a6f76338f_73963ff1c74d45c42515e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'd keep the requirement to ignore them on receipt -- why require more unnecessary checking?

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That works, but then state that their value is completely meaningless and should not be interpreted as anything

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@LPardue, you want to add verbiage in addition to this?

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Mar 20 14:05:55 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B5112796D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:05:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJw_PMpcwUP2 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39941124BF6 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:05:50 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553115950; bh=cc9VCpeJQlHi/pLcndafNuXw/sID9FNR2MsIJcp2Kq4=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=H2O8wowB3DjHr1MOSJV2yLuYULo6dLsQ5ocf4s/X61LAmFIxbrQuAc5FXX7pTJJFm uPw1nDiVxDaqs9SZ7haoh0Q9GRNUeSEg2v6oS0LlsqLylQM4TofxF3OfoDnUIGJekF ZriBCIGa8Z2u3+eicaRKC0Gn9iKTr3j87BMuDuIw= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Rework Key Update (#2237) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92ab2e53bd3_11fe3f889f4d45c437968c"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:05:53 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92ab2e53bd3_11fe3f889f4d45c437968c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is true that we separate keys, and not secrets, but the change to the update label is a more pragmatic one. You don't want to have a situation where TLS key updates and QUIC key updates end up mixed. Yes, you can't trigger TLS key updates in QUIC, but how else would you get the TLS secrets to roll over. Mostly, that change was to ensure that the process for updating secrets was documented. When reading the current drafts, I challenge you to find where it says what to do. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2237#issuecomment-475028091 ----==_mimepart_5c92ab2e53bd3_11fe3f889f4d45c437968c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It is true that we separate keys, and not secrets, but the change to t= he update label is a more pragmatic one. You don't want to have a situat= ion where TLS key updates and QUIC key updates end up mixed. Yes, you ca= n't trigger TLS key updates in QUIC, but how else would you get the TLS s= ecrets to roll over.

Mostly, that change was to ensure that the process for updating secret= s was documented. When reading the current drafts, I challenge you to fi= nd where it says what to do.

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I will raise this on the list so that people are clear about this. Technically, there isn't a change here, but it certainly looks like it if you don't understand what is going on. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2467#issuecomment-475028806 ----==_mimepart_5c92abaf8cbba_63d03fa2de6d45b433893c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks for doing this Martin. I will raise this on the list so that people are clear about this. Technically, there isn't a change here, but it certainly looks like it if you don't understand what is going on.

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Meta-level comments. The code and text look fine. > @@ -330,6 +330,31 @@ min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. +A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar +to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}, see {{on-ack-received}}. + +On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked: +~~~ +latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked +~~~ + +First RTT sample: +~~~ +min_rtt = latest_rtt +smoothed_rtt = latest_rtt So no ack delay here at all? That probably needs explanation. > @@ -330,6 +330,31 @@ min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by ack delay. Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT. I find the structure of this section to be a little hard to follow. I think that you want to lay it out differently. The baseline concepts here are: 1. the observed RTT (latest_rtt in the code), which includes any processing delays on the receiver end 2. minimum RTT, which is set to the minimum observed RTT for the path. this doesn't include any processing delays on the receiver end, which might inflate the value a little, but we assume that receivers will immediately acknowledge a packet at some point (usually this is a good idea for a new path, and handshaking more or less depends on that) 3. ack delay, which captures the processing time and any forced delays on the receiver. This is limited to the maximum value the receiver advertises. This value is self-reported, so any error needs to result in using less network capacity, not more, or it could be used to increase network load inappropriately. The goal here is to have an RTT estimate that is larger. Thus, the design is such that if ACK delay is under-reported, or the maximum is set lower than the reality, this will result in an inflated RTT estimate. If this is over-reported, the maximum will cap the value and again cause the RTT estimate to be driven up also. 4. The final RTT calculation. This is calculated based on the observed RTT and the adjusted ack delay. The value is smoothed so that some history is retained. This structure matches the code, and I think -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2506#pullrequestreview-216985589 ----==_mimepart_5c92af885c92c_44ed3f7f420d45c02115cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Meta-level comments. The code and text look fine.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -330,6 +330,31 @@ min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
+to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}, see {{on-ack-received}}.
+
+On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+~~~
+latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
+~~~
+
+First RTT sample:
+~~~
+min_rtt = latest_rtt
+smoothed_rtt = latest_rtt

So no ack delay here at all? That probably needs explanation.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -330,6 +330,31 @@ min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.

I find the structure of this section to be a little hard to follow. I think that you want to lay it out differently.

The baseline concepts here are:

  1. the observed RTT (latest_rtt in the code), which includes any processing delays on the receiver end

  2. minimum RTT, which is set to the minimum observed RTT for the path. this doesn't include any processing delays on the receiver end, which might inflate the value a little, but we assume that receivers will immediately acknowledge a packet at some point (usually this is a good idea for a new path, and handshaking more or less depends on that)

  3. ack delay, which captures the processing time and any forced delays on the receiver. This is limited to the maximum value the receiver advertises. This value is self-reported, so any error needs to result in using less network capacity, not more, or it could be used to increase network load inappropriately. The goal here is to have an RTT estimate that is larger. Thus, the design is such that if ACK delay is under-reported, or the maximum is set lower than the reality, this will result in an inflated RTT estimate. If this is over-reported, the maximum will cap the value and again cause the RTT estimate to be driven up also.

  4. The final RTT calculation. This is calculated based on the observed RTT and the adjusted ack delay. The value is smoothed so that some history is retained.

This structure matches the code, and I think

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

> @@ -269,7 +271,7 @@ At a high level, there are two main interactions between the TLS and QUIC
 components:
 
 * The TLS component sends and receives messages via the QUIC component, with
-  QUIC providing a reliable stream abstraction to TLS.
+  QUIC providing a reliable stream and record abstraction to TLS.

I think that this would be a mistake. TLS only requires a stream abstraction. QUIC has its own need for a record-like abstraction (we call them packets), but that is not relevant here.

If you revert this, I can merge it.

(@martinduke, be careful who you are tagging...)

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Looking back to HTTP/2, it had this to say about in-frame PADDING in D= ATA frames.

Padding octets that contain no application semantic value.
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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

@dtikhonov : I mean to say, that an implementation that prevents the creation of QPACK streams is not conformant, in the same way it would not be conformant to set it to 0 and block the creation of the control stream. This is my understanding of the consensus based on the last discussion in Toyko.

@LPardue : I'm not sure that's such a big deal. If you planned to use the dynamic table, but wasted your stream on grease instead of an encoder stream, then you can't use the table. If you disabled the dynamic table for your peer, then you don't need to create the decoder stream anyways. If you allowed the peer to use the dynamic table but can't create a decoder stream, then your compression will eventually degrade to ~static only but I think the connection will still work.

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These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of +the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero. + +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of +its own dynamic table is zero. + +An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams > I'm not sure that's such a big deal. If you planned to use the dynamic table, but wasted your stream on grease instead of an encoder stream, then you can't use the table. The problem is that the sender has no intention of creating an encoder stream but the receiver doesn't know that. If the receiver is eager to use QPACK, it keeps giving back a stream credit for every unidirectional stream that is "wasted" before creating the encoder stream. 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@LPardue commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

I'm not sure that's such a big deal. If you planned to use the dynamic table, but wasted your stream on grease instead of an encoder stream, then you can't use the table.

The problem is that the sender has no intention of creating an encoder stream but the receiver doesn't know that. If the receiver is eager to use QPACK, it keeps giving back a stream credit for every unidirectional stream that is "wasted" before creating the encoder stream. Even if it didn't give back credit immediately and did let the max uni stream limit be hit, there is no guarantee that the next time the receiver gives credit (say for a push promise) that then it wouldn't spontaneously be used for QPACK.

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----==_mimepart_5c92cda0d68d4_30a43fc0accd45b88111a1-- From nobody Wed Mar 20 16:45:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8EA12F1AC for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:45:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 112hgMQoZ6UE for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56E6312D4EC for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 16:45:12 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553125512; bh=oW+288FTEzYXnrcWHONgh/gurlOiBpA1OyKmBmlSuFA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=nNN6U0rUp2DMhzDr1+qsIIvBwaQ9Cpj20sawE2pD7bE8PJggw1w6EPXJGoAkWYM9R U4NGCuLhlPGfJA8+pVogBFBaiwwNIm0haBTHiW2Bi4GgSlvERA2mRo/oxS9c6EpaiW KxiC3AlrPjlidsX9l4MAaY/xBW8OJ4vNNU50y9do= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] disallow port changes on disable_migration (#2535) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92d088215d8_48103fddcc4d45c4331055"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 23:45:16 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92d088215d8_48103fddcc4d45c4331055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some infrastructures are likely to load balance on port as well as address. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2535 -- Commit Summary -- * disallow port changes on disable_migration -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2535.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2535.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2535 ----==_mimepart_5c92d088215d8_48103fddcc4d45c4331055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Some infrastructures are likely to load balance on port as well as address.

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missing prepositions

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Saying it "terminates a stream" dangerously makes it sound like it has the same meaning as HTTP/2, which is false.

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However, if the client doesn't send any, it prevents the server from sending any. That seems bad.

That argument is more compelling than mine.

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Sec 19.8 says:
The first byte in the stream has an offset of 0. The largest offset
delivered on a stream - the sum of the offset and data length - MUST
be less than 2^62.

It certainly possible to express a STREAM frame that violates this rule. What action should we take?

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I don't know if we ever wrote this down, but I think that we might say if you catch a peer violating the spec, then you can send an error of any type you like. But for this case, PROTOCOL_VIOLATION is entirely appropriate (as with many others of this sort).

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Commit: c90b494b8925b23d1dde45642987d4e2785a4929 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/c90b494b8925b23d1dde45642987d4e2785a4929 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-21 (Thu, 21 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2537 from martinduke/patch-49 Clarify meaning of RESET_STREAM Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/c13a6fd16b15...c90b494b8925 From nobody Wed Mar 20 18:05:09 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADE61311B7 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:05:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iyU0yNhDLSez for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5F061310B8 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:04:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553130298; bh=2tm379yD4Ra5Z1rKE/kGbWGz5UsIbIgjRmQdBsdI2Mc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=oyVQeLJ2wPVova6LnxaUEX0KIA3kQe/dCGv5N/MTn/En2oqIKipIS1VA7J3ztzNW1 TADsKpeShJyOB090/1TiNs5TFTVu2K/bDgUeVa0Vi0eQ4cw4mpLDS6knqHqTWKMfHX JmDB9oKPhED2sEhTRHre/O4U5i3YMcsB3Iy35o6o= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify meaning of RESET_STREAM (#2537) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92e33a14fb0_381b3fea5bad45b4263728"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:05:01 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92e33a14fb0_381b3fea5bad45b4263728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2537 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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That is probably OK here as well. Though the need is less acute for a 4 bit field. Padding in DATA can be arbitrarily large.

Either way, the hope would be that at least a few implementations check and enforce.

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----==_mimepart_5c92e759f704_643a3ff4646d45b443158e-- From nobody Wed Mar 20 18:22:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507AE124D68 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rM2qxrcXGYfF for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82C4612788D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:33 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553131353; bh=30xGOHNSgReLxYLvsh098LmlThWA2GrjL2MFcpAPtos=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=M5uT3j+wFBYMRYM4tSxQOalbOyBXulYDFqcFrRwnxUdgKpLyZ2ieoAW6gvQv8Lbf2 0/qDVPpi47vPuCR214n3RKT6Rfk9AnkCd2BzZOdfXXuSXRdc4IuYOBEsqmwhfurk9A enMUGTIjsTKrwixa9OK0W5YNH6dZB9y9CtN9hWu4= From: Martin Thomson To: quic-issues@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] 5329e0: Minor TLS draft editorial corrections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:22:36 -0000 Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts Commit: 5329e0ef079ef30e81e99eec1f9a4d9d9ba60179 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5329e0ef079ef30e81e99eec1f9a4d9d9ba60179 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-08 (Fri, 08 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Minor TLS draft editorial corrections I am not quite as sure of these, but I believe they match the intent better. Commit: 755559b0e6d3653a6d4e8aaaa841efd795d8df23 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/755559b0e6d3653a6d4e8aaaa841efd795d8df23 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-10 (Sun, 10 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Update to reflect reviews Still some points of contention Commit: 83793ef5f0c83635d9bface209af0c2f8d18bfd8 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/83793ef5f0c83635d9bface209af0c2f8d18bfd8 Author: martinduke Date: 2019-02-15 (Fri, 15 Feb 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Refer to "installing keys" instead of "rekeying" Per @mIkebishop's advice We're still a little stuck on whether or not QUIC provides a TLS record abstraction. If we can't resolve soon, I'll just separate out that change. Commit: 3c383577676d512c4aba0f9ae7b9f26f9e56967d https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/3c383577676d512c4aba0f9ae7b9f26f9e56967d Author: martinduke Date: 2019-03-20 (Wed, 20 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- In which I surrender I still disagree with the critique, but it is way less important than the rest of the PR. Perhaps someone can show me the error of my ways over some Czech beer. Commit: 80a7b5e065f17c08629508dfd1fad38405495a54 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/80a7b5e065f17c08629508dfd1fad38405495a54 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-21 (Thu, 21 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2446 from martinduke/patch-35 Minor TLS draft editorial corrections Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/1cb835336c02...80a7b5e065f1 From nobody Wed Mar 20 18:22:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7FA12788D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qQahdnNUjIiQ for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E767124D68 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:22:38 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553131358; bh=2d09/tcTkfKmY6/potBznucoINB+tFIgKLnG+ycBto0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vJjAPLjQobfc5u5q9CMD8xLT+lzHvSeP8CS7rzYcirk3WxNBwFRWzYSBiTSjJpl6z EJE2pjpwFGRZ0DvxlgjEgoOxrymbfCNsgDFJ+i9RraipdFl2H6lk2pLyQI6ON7OCx2 PKRq53MF1IgAaXN31KBqb3pcK7yWo1IxxOmfrepM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Minor TLS draft editorial corrections (#2446) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92e75ea00d9_1a3a3fe5a1ed45c4345758"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:22:41 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92e75ea00d9_1a3a3fe5a1ed45c4345758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2446 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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"Address" has been taken to mean IP and port in other contexts, but no harm in being extra precise here.

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Commit: 5540dd3718fa4b52ad58ea0de54b3ee62e1f99f0 https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/5540dd3718fa4b52ad58ea0de54b3ee62e1f99f0 Author: Martin Thomson Date: 2019-03-21 (Thu, 21 Mar 2019) Changed paths: M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md Log Message: ----------- Merge pull request #2535 from martinduke/patch-47 disallow port changes on disable_migration Compare: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/compare/80a7b5e065f1...5540dd3718fa From nobody Wed Mar 20 18:23:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC28912AF7E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:23:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.384 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.384 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yKYEMKdsxFYS for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C7DA130DF1 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:23:29 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553131409; bh=fnWO+Y5j56Q0hR4bdnOmFEkAS9mAWpNj97Vb9na5ZVc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=wJ+RRFIxLGtX3xUP8iddnXwKIopuLUlZiRdMfoEtmTnFNEsitXe7wl2mL0yEunIMs JSVi+JoPw4LrA8bZRNJTjUwptFIssATQc8XUpGhh4RIrr0tIPaSQPu34rVTE8iFljz ckQVSOKgIi0vWB4LUsLw1ycT0OXNRxEbnSJV9nAM= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] disallow port changes on disable_migration (#2535) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92e79159b30_60f13f995b4d45c02548d9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:23:32 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92e79159b30_60f13f995b4d45c02548d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Merged #2535 into master. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Mar 20 18:55:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C73129524 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lmrZNytAV3kR for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DF6D1277DB for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:55:54 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553133354; bh=+7L5GupOC+5zxC6zs5WSyQteAnOP1rPvgSDwJeMqT70=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=QLVFlZYlz8ZNC7F5R7OvbOVi41U2kcOSdgxMWYP1GPepXNra6nST6SUZYwGlGJ6ox 6H+jhDOeethwEkTQkpy9XnbD7IgaPN/rQiSFHE5bcsJYc/0X0nNguGLkegeSAUNVHk 9Ko9uP58YgnBovRBSRO1jvt94O3wbdGR39Fh/9FY= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kGranularity and max_ack_delay possibly should be added after exponential backoff (#2393) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c92ef2a1fc43_37e63fea5bad45b45320e4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:55:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c92ef2a1fc43_37e63fea5bad45b45320e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In an effort to align with TCP, kGranularity is now considered here: PTO = smoothed_rtt + max(4*rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay In TCP, is the exponential backoff done before kGranularity is considered? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In an effort to align with TCP, kGranularity is now considered here:
PTO = smoothed_rtt + max(4*rttvar, kGranularity) + max_ack_delay

In TCP, is the exponential backoff done before kGranularity is considered?

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Given the new text doesn't have a concept of RTO and focuses on an extended period of persistent congestion, I'm closing this issue.

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Closed #2162.

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To clarify, there are no exceptions for TLS data in TCP, correct? If so, I'd suggest we not make exceptions for CRYPTO frames in QUIC unless we have evidence this is an issue.

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----==_mimepart_5c92f0fd855ed_60e93f995b4d45c0415258-- From nobody Thu Mar 21 01:42:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9201311C0 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:41:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bOy4Hf80b46D for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E58FA13103C for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Y/GmQAvMwRsY0Al99k9LIOdRo4s=; b=QvKl5R9kQlG/Z1VG HgvWcghAFJVjMZEMv8QNejhAej0M9R6quzYtm/HDwBV8vQx0cr2WFs+hWYy+3wbZ n9jUGNZRta6jXLBChjwhrTs0eFmt1LeZkImNszSE1ddjwn/fXijns3T2jOXcF2Vy M1bSPiPLkI2lXAXZcjog/J72vKU= Received: by filter0910p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0910p1las1-32764-5C934E4E-B 2019-03-21 08:41:50.545477564 +0000 UTC m=+216748.041620809 Received: from github-lowworker-b40b5a4.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.36]) by ismtpd0004p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id Ws1-NmVGSaKFF7Hcs7g76Q for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 08:41:50.427 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-b40b5a4.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6504B3E0CA5 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 01:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 08:41:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Lars Eggert Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Version negotiation, reserved or 0x?a?a?a?a (#2540) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c934e4e6121b_36903ffd4acd45c44123e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: larseggert X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0rc2TSH373DPmaNc2zUIhlVyWdfC3KzsxoZ0 +Ni8PZX/H/6OJwh9FpLvHZBPvZ9jS3SWGWjsFcLWd3YBfN5ek5iyYnFIcSPLp4yxymetPxPgvWEqQS KUUKLnG2QdCfF77rp2CxUqn7m/pN1nPuPiJC5DNAaDijvC/+Xm7nvaJPdJek50DkiDNpYLrnBHhgo7 c= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 08:42:00 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c934e4e6121b_36903ffd4acd45c44123e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Section 6.3 says ``` For a server to use a new version in the future, clients must correctly handle unsupported versions. To help ensure this, a server SHOULD include a reserved version (see Section 15) while generating a Version Negotiation packet. ``` And then Section 15 defines two kinds of "reserved" versions, which makes the paragraph above ambiguous. ``` Versions with the most significant 16 bits of the version number cleared are reserved for use in future IETF consensus documents. Versions that follow the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are reserved for use in forcing version negotiation to be exercised. ``` ... ``` Reserved version numbers will probably never represent a real protocol; a client MAY use one of these version numbers with the expectation that the server will initiate version negotiation; a server MAY advertise support for one of these versions and can expect that clients ignore the value. ``` Is the intent in Section 6.3 that a server SHOULD include a version that is reserved **for forcing version negotiation** (i.e., matches 0x?a?a?a?a), or SHOULD a server include a version reserved for future IETF consensus documents (i.e., matching 0x0000????). Or both? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2540 ----==_mimepart_5c934e4e6121b_36903ffd4acd45c44123e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Section 6.3 says

   For a server to use a new version in the future, clients must
   correctly handle unsupported versions.  To help ensure this, a server
   SHOULD include a reserved version (see Section 15) while generating a
   Version Negotiation packet.

And then Section 15 defines two kinds of "reserved" versions, which makes the paragraph above ambiguous.

   Versions with the most significant 16 bits of the version number
   cleared are reserved for use in future IETF consensus documents.

   Versions that follow the pattern 0x?a?a?a?a are reserved for use in
   forcing version negotiation to be exercised.

...

   Reserved version numbers will probably never represent a real
   protocol; a client MAY use one of these version numbers with the
   expectation that the server will initiate version negotiation; a
   server MAY advertise support for one of these versions and can expect
   that clients ignore the value.

Is the intent in Section 6.3 that a server SHOULD include a version that is reserved for forcing version negotiation (i.e., matches 0x?a?a?a?a), or SHOULD a server include a version reserved for future IETF consensus documents (i.e., matching 0x0000????). Or both?

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In my opinion having an implementation that advertises possible future s= tandards versions without actually supporting them seems wrong, what happen= s if the other side actually supports this version?
This seems like it could deadlock or look like a bidding down attack in cas= e the client moves to a lower version to resolve the deadlock.

On the other hand, announcing standards versions helps to not ossify aro= und the 0x?a?a?a?a pattern but to me announcing standards versions does not= seem like a solution to this.

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I think that some of the discussion recently has pushed us away from reserving versions for IETF use. Fixing that would make this a design issue, of course.

I get the editorial point though. Doubling up on the use of "reserved" is unfortunate.

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Not just offset, but offset + content size of stream frame, otherwise there is no fixed limit on stream sizes, which is unfortunate.

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----==_mimepart_5c93d2cd24300_43a23fba880d45bc25253c-- From nobody Thu Mar 21 11:37:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFB413157D for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:37:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TEQKBagy77Sc for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44D9A13157B for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:37:05 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553193425; bh=hPbDIEjUK/e/mU717ZgnRa2NhYjO4js0hYwAE5qiBuY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=x8NHq71erztkZUtOZsXLZvzPXAK14RxQLiAqReO6pUrHmVkqlGZa762OOzqmi+HFm A2SMUyyw55FC3Vp35m4dLuDOhFVZPsAYxIya93BUaUpQJ8odtIxim3oQ+yfwXNvcIJ oZafXJsay5i1lp97QF5OplZxCECBFvdqxd+WLdNc= From: mjoras Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients cannot abandon Initial packets while server can still send initial close (#2541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c93d9d1f15_32d53ff7b18d45bc549589"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mjoras X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 18:37:09 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c93d9d1f15_32d53ff7b18d45bc549589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 17.2.2.1 of the spec current reads: "**A client stops both sending and processing Initial packets when it sends its first Handshake packet.** A server stops sending and processing Initial packets when it receives its first Handshake packet. Though packets might still be in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be exchanged beyond this point. Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see Section 4.10 of [QUIC-TLS]) along with any loss recovery and congestion control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of [QUIC-RECOVERY])." I believe this is inconsistent with section 10.3, regarding sending an initial connection close: "If the connection has been successfully established, endpoints MUST send any CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a 1-RTT packet. Prior to connection establishment a peer might not have 1-RTT keys, so endpoints SHOULD send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a Handshake packet. **If the endpoint does not have Handshake keys, or it is not certain that the peer has Handshake keys, it MAY send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in an Initial packet.** If multiple packets are sent, they can be coalesced (see Section 12.2) to facilitate retransmission." The client may have started sending handshake packets at the point which the server decides to send a close. Since the server does not know if the client has the handshake keys it MAY send the close in an initial packet. However since the client stops (though it is missing a MUST or MAY qualifier) processing initial packets it will never process the close from the server. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2541 ----==_mimepart_5c93d9d1f15_32d53ff7b18d45bc549589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

17.2.2.1 of the spec current reads:
"A client stops both sending and processing Initial packets when it sends its first Handshake packet. A server stops sending and processing Initial packets when it receives its first Handshake packet. Though packets might still be in flight or awaiting acknowledgment, no further Initial packets need to be exchanged beyond this point. Initial packet protection keys are discarded (see Section 4.10 of [QUIC-TLS]) along with any loss recovery and congestion control state (see Sections 5.3.1.2 and 6.9 of [QUIC-RECOVERY])."

I believe this is inconsistent with section 10.3, regarding sending an initial connection close:
"If the connection has been successfully established, endpoints MUST send any CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a 1-RTT packet. Prior to connection establishment a peer might not have 1-RTT keys, so endpoints SHOULD send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in a Handshake packet. If the endpoint does not have Handshake keys, or it is not certain that the peer has Handshake keys, it MAY send CONNECTION_CLOSE frames in an Initial packet. If multiple packets are sent, they can be coalesced (see Section 12.2) to facilitate retransmission."

The client may have started sending handshake packets at the point which the server decides to send a close. Since the server does not know if the client has the handshake keys it MAY send the close in an initial packet. However since the client stops (though it is missing a MUST or MAY qualifier) processing initial packets it will never process the close from the server.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

This sounds like a case of "don't do that". The sender gets to choose to how to use the uni stream credit it receives, and I don't think receivers should overthink this. A receiver should choose the value based on how many concurrent uni streams they can handle, since there's no way to guaranteer the sender will use them for any particular type. If the sender wants to use the dynamic table at any point in the connection, maybe we should recommend they open the stream as soon as possible.

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

Thinking about this a little more, its a nice feature of HPACK that it can chose when to start using dynamic compression, with little overhead.

My understanding though is that we can't use MAX_STREAMS to contorl concurrency like you describe (I'm probably wrong here). But from the transport document section 19.11

Note that these frames (and the corresponding transport parameters)
do not describe the number of streams that can be opened
concurrently. The limit includes streams that have been closed as
well as those that are open.

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----==_mimepart_5c93e4bd73752_40f73f9ad46d45bc1449f3-- From nobody Thu Mar 21 12:41:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7DA1315A3 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 12:41:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aeoMZ0ktXJLR for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 12:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o4.sgmail.github.com (o4.sgmail.github.com [192.254.112.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2F7413159A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 12:41:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=sx3+ghEkwvFq7wFGLBiXIKZHV2s=; b=AfyNItUmwaC4sxe0 KnnUbXCVoMsuC71xpTOcGMSHDbSoUV1G9pYOm8SEBPGhxGFXSpaibQytTnwP8RU2 9GXFbUMifwazOMJExz1bUQgyTYawZUMMO5gSPmmR36Mb0knHerCSQUP7UNnhMv/3 +eAT4n2gkvRpRTVnwrsh7Hy2NZA= Received: by filter0752p1las1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0752p1las1-7604-5C93E8E4-A 2019-03-21 19:41:24.237874056 +0000 UTC m=+19034.258354553 Received: from github-lowworker-e51511d.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.34]) by ismtpd0011p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 0XJLvF42QR-nrfyXiyA_-g for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:41:24.064 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-e51511d.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAD980C61 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 12:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:41:24 +0000 (UTC) From: afrind Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Allow not creating QPACK codec streams (#2529) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c93e8e418324_31583fcf44ed45c42185a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: afrind X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2yVb5JNlw1hDOg3VlKLj1I65Hm0qH6I0/v3i zJ9ATcKyldrFeszIuV8QwYiSe76mDgeH/4Xf/UQfVcE3HoIyooyT3TnAQIjriMetL7VwsZrp4oBh9Q vzG8aW+ybtyfL/UPTVsNoE2JcfR0xkOdJvtBkyvx05wKkweeEnkEANzUzw== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 19:41:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c93e8e418324_31583fcf44ed45c42185a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit afrind commented on this pull request. > HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM. +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of +the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero. + +An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of +its own dynamic table is zero. + +An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams I think most implementations will take closed streams into account to know when to issue more uni stream credit. In the case of servers, there's never a need to increase it in vanilla HTTP/3. Clients need only increase it when they want more pushes (or grease, or extensions, etc). > Thinking about this a little more, its a nice feature of HPACK that it can chose when to start using dynamic compression, with little overhead. I suppose that's a feature of HPACK, but is it really all that useful? I think of it the other way - HPACK was simpler to setup (didn't require any extra streams) but that's because the underlying transport provides the strong ordering guarantee. If you want QPACK dynamic table then you have to open some streams. Just do it at the beginning of the connection when you know you have credit, or risk not being able to use it later, if you consume the credit with some other stream. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2529#discussion_r267926845 ----==_mimepart_5c93e8e418324_31583fcf44ed45c42185a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP_WRONG_STREAM_COUNT. These streams MUST NOT be closed. Closure of either
 unidirectional stream type MUST be treated as a connection error of type
 HTTP_CLOSED_CRITICAL_STREAM.
 
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own encoder stream if the maximum size of
+the dynamic table permitted by the peer is zero.
+
+An endpoint MAY avoid creating its own decoder stream if the maximum size of
+its own dynamic table is zero.
+
+An endpoint MUST allow its peer to create both encoder and decoder streams

I think most implementations will take closed streams into account to know when to issue more uni stream credit. In the case of servers, there's never a need to increase it in vanilla HTTP/3. Clients need only increase it when they want more pushes (or grease, or extensions, etc).

Thinking about this a little more, its a nice feature of HPACK that it can chose when to start using dynamic compression, with little overhead.

I suppose that's a feature of HPACK, but is it really all that useful? I think of it the other way - HPACK was simpler to setup (didn't require any extra streams) but that's because the underlying transport provides the strong ordering guarantee. If you want QPACK dynamic table then you have to open some streams. Just do it at the beginning of the connection when you know you have credit, or risk not being able to use it later, if you consume the credit with some other stream.

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My understanding is that tokens provided by NEW_TOKEN frames should not leak information that allows observers correlate the newly established connection with the previous connection. Such information include the time when the token was issued, RTT, server name (when SNI is not used or Encrypted SNI is used).

However, the draft seems to be vague about the requirement. I think it might be worth clarifying the principle in the draft.

"a token SHOULD include an expiration time" (section 8.1.2) - I think we should change this to "a token SHOLUD be associated an expiration time", considering the fact that we are talking about "stateful" design (stateless design is mentioned briefly in one of the following paragraphs).

"In a stateless design, a server can use encrypted and authenticated tokens to pass information to clients" - I think we might prefer using "SHOULD" rather than "can".

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----==_mimepart_5c93f9debfcaf_e923fdf5eed45b8213098-- From nobody Thu Mar 21 14:03:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECF0124BA8 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:03:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yFHpcfefD9KU for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D62812008F for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:03:15 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553202195; bh=PKlBHyJyu2rRSl/EAcckRQwT6ZxoEjgLEhIv3CHaRQ8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=FPcJnGNdEJ0v9DknRoNDprIPXPK6gJw8u5rZNX8KbIuUzf9eESSEFFNq/b+jh8p72 EDQdexAyCarSEWfa9MWtvqrRDDG6YcFiRSb3wPtY2VLITuVuTuFP5lapjx3zFYITTA xxT0gOs9fEGXXb5ndW2jCaloT6TPMyzMoSP4mA9U= From: Dmitri Tikhonov Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] NEW_TOKEN token and encryption (#2543) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c93fc133799f_7dff3f92ef2d45bc376f9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: dtikhonov X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:03:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c93fc133799f_7dff3f92ef2d45bc376f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the current text is fine: ``` Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there might be some time between when the token is created and when the token is subsequently used. Thus, a token SHOULD include an expiration time. The server MAY include either an explicit expiration time or an issued timestamp and dynamically calculate the expiration time. It is also unlikely that the client port number is the same on two different connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to be successful. ``` "include" translates to "put into the token and encrypt" in my mind. Reading that a token is "associated" with an expiration time would give me pause. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2543#issuecomment-475401325 ----==_mimepart_5c93fc133799f_7dff3f92ef2d45bc376f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think the current text is fine:

   Unlike the token that is created for a Retry packet, there =
might be
   some time between when the token is created and when the token is
   subsequently used.  Thus, a token SHOULD include an expiration time.
   The server MAY include either an explicit expiration time or an
   issued timestamp and dynamically calculate the expiration time.  It
   is also unlikely that the client port number is the same on two
   different connections; validating the port is therefore unlikely to
   be successful.

"include" translates to "put into the token and encrypt" in my mind. = Reading that a token is "associated" with an expiration time would give m= e pause.

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"include" translates to "put into the token and encrypt"

Would you mind clarifying where the "and encrypt" comes from? My point is that that is the way it should be, however the text does not seem to clarify that.

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I don't recall how I arrived at it -- perhaps some common sense. =F0=9F=98=84= Now that I have implemented it, it seems only natural.

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=0D= =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c93ff63d61f6_5a3b3ffb8a0d45c4247124-- From nobody Thu Mar 21 17:16:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF28113126A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 17:16:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9GzXQazC37nd for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 17:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-16.smtp.github.com (out-16.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5961C131259 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 17:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 17:16:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553213795; bh=CWI8fX8yr+MFr6W7Y2fz25YkYSK2Ti6AUWsYKagJWzo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=YPQiPzoQDMONqNBH1bK+xbPMX38PFRvSjaTbey8eq9tTKRPPFh/8t7mTA3+CMvde3 Zp1lIdFWX8a1Cedm3qiEZbNlRH40MwHc3kLYXk43L7ScU2XkrHE0diHH3XfMxIDs6I gL8nQgVqVyi637bEw5wuLmmVelTQ+Z/6nBtQBZCc= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] NEW_TOKEN token and encryption (#2543) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9429634ba40_50753fc787ed45c0161654"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 00:16:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9429634ba40_50753fc787ed45c0161654 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm happy to know that we share the common sense :+1: As stated in the opening comment, my "editorial" preference goes to stating the principle that any information in an NEW_TOKEN token (other than the opaque lookup key used in a stateful design) SHOULD be encrypted. If that is to be met, I think keeping "and encrypt" would be fine. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2543#issuecomment-475450149 ----==_mimepart_5c9429634ba40_50753fc787ed45c0161654 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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After Issue #1974 both packet threshold and time threshold are used to detect lost packets. When it comes to packet threshold, I'd imagine Ack in one PN space shouldn't mark another packet in another PN space lost. But how about time threshold? Intuitively I think it should but would love the specs to have clarification on that. Thanks.

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Oops. nvm. Draft-19 has this fixed.

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I agree with @kazuho -- I think stating this explicitly as a SHOULD is sensible.

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Ya we encountered this issue while interoping with @larseggert. mvfst sends the close in initial keys until we're sure that the client has the onertt keys. I think this should be allowed.

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We really want to throw away initial keys ASAP. What about sending connection close in ALL encryption levels the peer might accept?Send a coalesced Initial/Handshake packet, each containing connection close.

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----==_mimepart_5c954efc2cba7_19a73fd85f0d45b817270-- From nobody Fri Mar 22 23:09:16 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766921277D8 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xxa7jUFg65ML for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13AD31224E8 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:09:10 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553321350; bh=RavV/tB25SKBJefDAAXEij2JEG9PdWWlysR9GqpXlEU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=y1KsRweXZFv6Ar8UAUYO3PRf5p0TReq0NIVH8rLyOPRbqLhRMK6oRG/6bS897dxvA fo2S59sK0RM7hv+Av+X4GxiT61bn/SaRs+ARttUZzJODjhXDRv9vgyrDuLzfgs5nun SQGFaEKEDduT9F/gpSln2TFZTqm+BV7A3zJu0Cvw= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients cannot abandon Initial packets while server can still send initial close (#2541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c95cd86c3071_28bf3fb1db0d45b84242d9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 06:09:14 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c95cd86c3071_28bf3fb1db0d45b84242d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with @nibanks. Keeping the initial keys around for longer opens up a DoS attack vector. Instead having the server send CONNECTION_CLOSE with all the keys it supports sounds safer, and using a coalesced packet can make that efficient. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2541#issuecomment-475843070 ----==_mimepart_5c95cd86c3071_28bf3fb1db0d45b84242d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I agree with @nibanks. Keeping the initial keys around for longer opens up a DoS attack vector. Instead having the server send CONNECTION_CLOSE with all the keys it supports sounds safer, and using a coalesced packet can make that efficient.

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----==_mimepart_5c95cd86c3071_28bf3fb1db0d45b84242d9-- From nobody Sat Mar 23 01:46:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B264812796C for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:46:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Npxmdr2-Pa13 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F3AA127985 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 01:46:47 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553330807; bh=6DyNN9mmdglWxJXXQ83A/MdPk4ah6AvL7US9rRO9wUI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=j6/+G2cRzOsnVn3RHdBic7B3Tofl6g9vQS21eVVN+Ev4lLREW8xoX+EEZuGRy5TpH hy/lSIQ7Ph7lzb+YDmlvNK1cFOQ29MManvGnXdh0e3uINBFQJPi1nosHSJMucIusUh byWIRj7TuLV33qA4mb6Ixz9sGgx4hEGQt5b+w4cE= From: Kazuho Oku Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients cannot abandon Initial packets while server can still send initial close (#2541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c95f27736a06_5d873fc3258d45b414013e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kazuho X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 08:46:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c95f27736a06_5d873fc3258d45b414013e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with the principle of throwing Initial keys ASAP. Another strategy that can be employed by the server to avoid the issue is send CONNECTION_CLOSE in Initial packets, but continue waiting for Handshake packets until it discards the connection. When it receives a Handshake packet (that successfully authenticates), it sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in Handshake packet. The approach works because a client is required to send an empty Handshake packet even if there's no data to be sent. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2541#issuecomment-475852470 ----==_mimepart_5c95f27736a06_5d873fc3258d45b414013e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree with the principle of throwing Initial keys ASAP. Another stra= tegy that can be employed by the server to avoid the issue is send CONNEC= TION_CLOSE in Initial packets, but continue waiting for Handshake packets= until it discards the connection. When it receives a Handshake packet (t= hat successfully authenticates), it sends a CONNECTION_CLOSE frame in Han= dshake packet. The approach works because a client is required to send an= empty Handshake packet even if there's no data to be sent.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c95f27736a06_5d873fc3258d45b414013e-- From nobody Sat Mar 23 04:07:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87591293B1 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:07:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BAi_4IoOiIjG for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09EF5126C01 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:07:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553339260; bh=Y1iB/LCqy0+0jp8Yf8/GJz/NTe10MdKLPbiNYoqLL8A=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Ezr26XGPpXw8KC7+L6663er7gsSYMQLzROVNnyjZzxZshalEODB28sFkXP1EXNrbP KPd+0nY8QZJGu+bX9fu/ZEu7cfTdIYlUhkyHDeZP8PuLFm2uXZUAnm56n5guAj0XPG udFoNCt3xja6oQXMKUBSqfbLXRvsNcjrWH85a8vU= From: "Philipp S. Tiesel" Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] QUIC Ossification (#2496) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c96137c83188_79f03f86390d45b8108077b"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: philsbln X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 11:07:44 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c96137c83188_79f03f86390d45b8108077b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like to re-state my earlier proposal to solve this issue by Introducing a new "Version Alias" Frame: - the server includes a list which other version numbers it also accepts for the currently used QUIC version - it also includes a timeout telling the client how long it may use these aliases. This design allows to grease the whole version number range, e.g. by generating the aliases based on time windows and a local salt, without risking version clashes, as the alias numbers timeout. The only limitation of this scheme is that the server must make sure that the alias versions do not clash with version numbers the server is going to support within the timeout. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2496#issuecomment-475860714 ----==_mimepart_5c96137c83188_79f03f86390d45b8108077b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I like to re-state my earlier proposal to solve this issue by Introduc= ing a new "Version Alias" Frame:

  • the server includes a list which other version numbers it also accept= s for the currently used QUIC version
  • it also includes a timeout telling the client how long it may use the= se aliases.

This design allows to grease the whole version number range, e.g. by g= enerating the aliases based on time windows and a local salt, without ris= king version clashes, as the alias numbers timeout. The only limitation o= f this scheme is that the server must make sure that the alias versions d= o not clash with version numbers the server is going to support within th= e timeout.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c96137c83188_79f03f86390d45b8108077b-- From nobody Sat Mar 23 04:40:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94D1130E8B for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:40:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LaNn0efoTdpO for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61D9B130DE7 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 04:40:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553341227; bh=f8vcHDSoOmQ3DVVNbTHJO1XcA3Sztw7TGQeor/Hz6gc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=TynEcZfAC9JPVK3RjzmzX7XExYat7IRKtAj7WalfJ+wWHgo+VNmXWyrz5BP4Hx0IO gUf6u5YMko1/NU9NA3DzM2wTCeQOnmJLrT2TvX0nXJ9AMQDlHFgFBGQV2C0wtrOiL5 h30N546nm6RU4RLHScY84fvY8nmxNwJdVD+mJ7W8= From: Igor Lubashev Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] MAX_PACKET_SIZE frame (#2545) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c961b2b3ed64_2723fc8f44d45c077343e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: igorlord X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 11:40:31 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c961b2b3ed64_2723fc8f44d45c077343e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is likely a v2 feature, as we discussed on the list.=0D =0D There are several ongoing efforts in IETF to have network deliver PMTU in= formation to the intended destination, in addition to sending the traditi= onal ICMP PTB message to the sender from an on-path device.=0D =0D The efforts include [draft-hinden-6man-mtu-option](https://tools.ietf.org= /html/draft-hinden-6man-mtu-option), [draft-leddy-6man-truncate attempts]= (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-leddy-6man-truncate attempts), [draft-= ioametal-ippm-6man-ioam-ipv6-options](https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-i= oametal-ippm-6man-ioam-ipv6-options), [draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data](https:/= /tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data).=0D =0D In all cases, if an endpoint learns the PMTU from the sender to itself, t= here is still a problem of passing that information back to the sender. = We know that ICMP PTB has only limited chances of getting back to the sen= der, even if sent directly by the receiver. However, a QUIC packet with = MAX_PACKET_SIZE frame that updates the =E2=80=9Cmax_packet_size=E2=80=9D = transport parameter solves the problem. Hence the proposed new frame.=0D= =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2545= ----==_mimepart_5c961b2b3ed64_2723fc8f44d45c077343e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is likely a v2 feature, as we discussed on the list.

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There are several ongoing efforts in IETF to have network deliver PMTU= information to the intended destination, in addition to sending the trad= itional ICMP PTB message to the sender from an on-path device.

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The efforts include draft-hinden-6man-mtu-option, [dr= aft-leddy-6man-truncate attempts](https://tools.ietf.org/html/d= raft-leddy-6man-truncate attempts), draft-= ioametal-ippm-6man-ioam-ipv6-options, draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-= data.

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In all cases, if an endpoint learns the PMTU from the sender to itself= , there is still a problem of passing that information back to the sender= . We know that ICMP PTB has only limited chances of getting back to the = sender, even if sent directly by the receiver. However, a QUIC packet wi= th MAX_PACKET_SIZE frame that updates the =E2=80=9Cmax_packet_size=E2=80=9D= transport parameter solves the problem. Hence the proposed new frame.=0D =0D

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=0D =0D = ----==_mimepart_5c961b2b3ed64_2723fc8f44d45c077343e-- From nobody Sat Mar 23 07:16:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565D51310BB for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 07:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KiA-aJBaPQuX for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD31130EFA for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 07:16:17 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553350577; bh=0EcFb2K04gRQHX2pYjIaPqhf9PhM8oEzMLJpKyFsOZE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NVsRdNhMfRtF/o+y9FuQEpMWkKpmHB4/RTf6HRSzAIyIVDBKssuWqNPBhY2VPjQQq v2QaVadRUZi8TqBLQ6vb8gAszTmlhgl/8W6CfsJ51FNtGcQmmnOFWU4cvNxDSI/3b5 kHRA3vKeyVT/iN5qt38vCU1GKlLJGjaI1xZFRFDY= From: Christian Huitema Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK of ACK are useful (#2546) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c963fb1bad54_4243f86390d45b875007e"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: huitema X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:16:29 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c963fb1bad54_4243f86390d45b875007e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The transport spec says in section 13.1.1: "An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback loop of ACKs." I argue that this MUST NOT should be changed to SHOULD NOT. Fist, the infinite feedback can be prevented if, for example, an implementation only sends an ACK for N packets received, so there is really no need to be that strict. Second, ACK of ACK are generally useful. They enable trimming the grow of ACK lists in a controlled way. In fact, I found that problem in interop tests. Some implementations would send thousands of data packets without sending a single ACK of ACK. That means the sender is stuck with a large ACK dashboard. Yes, it could be trimmed with timers, but that's hardly a controlled process. I fixed this by sending an ACK + PING packet whenever there the unacked ACK list is too long, but that's a hack. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2546 ----==_mimepart_5c963fb1bad54_4243f86390d45b875007e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The transport spec says in section 13.1.1: "An endpoint MUST NOT send a packet containing only an ACK frame in response to a packet containing only ACK or PADDING frames, even if there are packet gaps which precede the received packet. This prevents an indefinite feedback loop of ACKs."

I argue that this MUST NOT should be changed to SHOULD NOT. Fist, the infinite feedback can be prevented if, for example, an implementation only sends an ACK for N packets received, so there is really no need to be that strict. Second, ACK of ACK are generally useful. They enable trimming the grow of ACK lists in a controlled way.

In fact, I found that problem in interop tests. Some implementations would send thousands of data packets without sending a single ACK of ACK. That means the sender is stuck with a large ACK dashboard. Yes, it could be trimmed with timers, but that's hardly a controlled process. I fixed this by sending an ACK + PING packet whenever there the unacked ACK list is too long, but that's a hack.

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that's an interesting idea, but kind of annoying. It makes coalesced packets a requirement for correct behavior, that we don't have right now.

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I don't think coalesced packets would be a requirement. You could still send separate UDP datagrams.

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Q: Wouldn't the sender of a PATH_CHALLENGE ignore a PATH_RESPONSE that= came back from a different peer address than what they send the PATH_CHA= LLENGE to?

But yes, duplicate packets are insanely rare and receiving a duplicate= from different addresses would almost never happen without interference,= so it should be a strong signal that the immediate migration should be i= gnored. Of course that makes the state machine even more complex, but as= suming that duplicate arrives while a PATH_CHALLENGE is outstanding, mayb= e it's not that much extra complexity?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c96c2b289e01_76ea3fb1db0d45b8482211-- From nobody Sat Mar 23 16:45:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEAD130D7A for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:45:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6tan_IFVna6 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C106D12D550 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:45:13 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553384713; bh=ICOSL1VOcbGDz0Gf18uJpSWOJXeN4/Lb26YjGOWFsdo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dZimGOpfqw/w3+WzylWhlnAUj0uX/PL8bCu9CAo27oX5hNKA4Jr2jwhoG0pWNppGc xOmG+pnzMbDNJx2aPkYs6voumhZxiVaD71+iNBdlu4E8xRYOfsNsSK5u83M9jBHRTi 6drDN2HclY6av7XVd9BT1F+y1UQXqL3LNI0FcCn8= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ACK of ACK are useful (#2546) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c96c509613b0_67383fe4c40d45c42645d2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:45:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c96c509613b0_67383fe4c40d45c42645d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd argue that ACK+PING isn't a hack, but instead a simple way for the sender, whose state we're trying to limit, to balance the amount of state it stores vs the extra ACKs being received. Getting the peer to implement the correct ACK behavior by sending a single extra byte is much simpler and more robust in my experience than relying on the receiver to implement an "ACK every 10/20/etc ACKs" policy in a way that every sender is happy with. This could likely use more text and there's still an outstanding editorial issue to move most of the ACK sending text that's in recovery into transport, so it's all in one place, since I believe there are currently a few subtle inconsistencies. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2546#issuecomment-475914488 ----==_mimepart_5c96c509613b0_67383fe4c40d45c42645d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'd argue that ACK+PING isn't a hack, but instead a simple way for the= sender, whose state we're trying to limit, to balance the amount of stat= e it stores vs the extra ACKs being received.

Getting the peer to implement the correct ACK behavior by sending a si= ngle extra byte is much simpler and more robust in my experience than rel= ying on the receiver to implement an "ACK every 10/20/etc ACKs" policy in= a way that every sender is happy with.

This could likely use more text and there's still an outstanding edito= rial issue to move most of the ACK sending text that's in recovery into t= ransport, so it's all in one place, since I believe there are currently a= few subtle inconsistencies.

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As I've suggested for other similar situations, an UPDATE_TRANSPORT_PA= RAMS frame seems potentially very useful for this and other params(ie: ma= x_ack_delay).

However, I'll admit it's less useful in a multipath scenario where two= paths are likely to have different MTUs.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c96d31abc653_6cde3fc3258d45b4703418-- From nobody Sat Mar 23 18:03:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0967B130EDE for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:03:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W7l9BmDoooC0 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-12.smtp.github.com (out-12.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D43B130EFB for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 18:03:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553389403; bh=2PvPUNbUZ+5eMWYPNyditbfpmA99qimLy1b5Rcyf+4w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=NwLDSf/RJTIJFx/Qqa1I+JLG3USO/XLd8n+mmDO23ux1PiUGYTrpjebU+RhBZhZoB t1Pnf8gnUJ37bJmPrHp+RlWy9Dgv6qjao4DXSptfP1JKeqhmq3n1JE14fIIFtjxQ5i molZ8iyoZyos89b3ZeXX0fGPcG79tnOSu4zHkn34= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clients cannot abandon Initial packets while server can still send initial close (#2541) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c96d75b1b836_23073fe5b68d45c47112f7"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 01:03:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c96d75b1b836_23073fe5b68d45c47112f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My understanding is that the KEYS_READY/RETIRE_KEYS/etc(#2214) change is going to change the key discarding dynamics enough that this issue may not longer be a problem? In particular, I'd expect the client to send RETIRE_KEYS when it first has Handshake keys and the server to send it when it receives a Handshake packet from the client. That would delay dropping the Initial keys just enough that I believe there should no longer be a confusion about what the highest encryption level the peer will process? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2541#issuecomment-475918359 ----==_mimepart_5c96d75b1b836_23073fe5b68d45c47112f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My understanding is that the KEYS_READY/RETIRE_KEYS/etc(#2214) change is going to change the key discarding dynamics enough that thi= s issue may not longer be a problem?

In particular, I'd expect the client to send RETIRE_KEYS when it first= has Handshake keys and the server to send it when it receives a Handshak= e packet from the client. That would delay dropping the Initial keys jus= t enough that I believe there should no longer be a confusion about what = the highest encryption level the peer will process?

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=0D= endpoint that would like to limit the amount of state it stores, it's=
=0D highly desirable for THAT endpoint to be in control. ACK+PING, satisfies<= br>=0D that. Relying on ACKs of ACKs from the peer does not, sadly.
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=0D > I'd argue that ACK+PING isn't a hack, but instead a simple w= ay for the
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=0D >
=0D > Getting the peer to implement the correct ACK behavior by sending a = single
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In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1207,7 +1207,14 @@ the requests if the requested resource is already being pushed.
 When a server later fulfills a promise, the server push response is conveyed on
 a push stream (see {{push-streams}}). The push stream identifies the Push ID of
 the promise that it fulfills, then contains a response to the promised request
-using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}.
+using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}. Due to
+reordering, data on a push stream can arrive before the corresponding
+PUSH_PROMISE, in which case both the associated client request and the pushed
+request headers are unknown. Clients which receive a new push stream with an

You haven't changed it here, though.

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@rmarx commented on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-http.md:

> @@ -1207,7 +1207,14 @@ the requests if the requested resource is already being pushed.
 When a server later fulfills a promise, the server push response is conveyed on
 a push stream (see {{push-streams}}). The push stream identifies the Push ID of
 the promise that it fulfills, then contains a response to the promised request
-using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}.
+using the same format described for responses in {{request-response}}. Due to
+reordering, data on a push stream can arrive before the corresponding
+PUSH_PROMISE, in which case both the associated client request and the pushed
+request headers are unknown. Clients which receive a new push stream with an

Sorry, wasn't sure if I should do this or the editors before merge. Should be accepted now.

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Done is a feature. This should be v2.

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(For the chairs, and triage purposes).

This suggests a normative requirement that I don't think that we need,= or that is already implied by existing text. There would be new normati= ve text. I believe that is still editorial on the basis that the require= ment is already implied, but will defer to your judgment.

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The language could be clearer, and there was some confusion today during the hackathon.

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----==_mimepart_5c97772adfb5e_11603fa2e74d45bc30505e-- From nobody Sun Mar 24 05:27:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B569127817 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qOmPkdadrvU0 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92FFE1275F3 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:27:06 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553430426; bh=0TX3/CDJnnfMr8zdkXDCjODUbMzBazHaiQkW+4WNHEw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=dxvoIX6azjdDP6UgeYOvLbUj2fbJXdjBflVfIaltx3QacNuMD9zgEra8kUjz3Dk4R ZnFENGAap6NSHd1C92gCNn0Y9P0csb6gSs1iM8dmLV+YHo7Pwq/jgvseCBKKAA2gIl JpFVEZzbmpnd1hEuK8Dme5jKk5Y98pwdgx3gDov4= From: Alessandro Ghedini Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify that stateless_reset_token is not mandatory (#2548) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c97779a969e8_1da13fa59bed45c4850981"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ghedo X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 12:27:10 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c97779a969e8_1da13fa59bed45c4850981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #2547 You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2548 -- Commit Summary -- * Clarify that stateless_reset_token is not mandatory -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (4) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2548.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2548.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2548 ----==_mimepart_5c97779a969e8_1da13fa59bed45c4850981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2547

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  • Clarify that stateless_reset_token is not mandatory

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----==_mimepart_5c97779a969e8_1da13fa59bed45c4850981-- From nobody Sun Mar 24 05:46:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0C1130E82 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:46:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4BJxTsdwm7eS for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA38E1310E1 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:46:23 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553431583; bh=d/8uHd4/cQ4hHppnjDKgYGup3rEqkPNmw/c8M38Czx0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=vELhO2agpaCKEIbbW0tuG8SiJUCmPLA+k81eDnyNRVXGa5V8329f3aTlqnPMDe1jB rzn91Uwn+UOPWluiVvUjyjKzgZc1Fp9jTm/1zWAmqPHTaBDfBm6Ukm9JnAJb5GbtZm VSip8U5s9BPFGKYxLuEgodc/tX5I2hPxVFplgDXg= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify that stateless_reset_token is not mandatory (#2548) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c977c1f8b431_10dc3fa2e74d45bc281789"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 12:46:34 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c977c1f8b431_10dc3fa2e74d45bc281789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't see any need to make this change (especially the parenthetical). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2548#issuecomment-475955406 ----==_mimepart_5c977c1f8b431_10dc3fa2e74d45bc281789 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I don't see any need to make this change (especially the parenthetical).

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Draft 19 has rendering issue for the reserved frame type in section 10.4

 Additionally, each code of the format "0x1f * N + 0x21" for integer
   values of N (that is, "0x21", "0x40", ..., through
   "0x&#8237;3FFFFFFFFFFFFFFE&#8236;") MUST NOT be assigned by IANA.

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I think the text is going to be in transport, so that's probably the right tag

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FWIW, what I am shooting for is a change like kazuho@9017aae.

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have space for private transport parameters and a process for assigning new standard transport parameters. However, since we do not apply GREASE to transport parameters, we leave ourselves open to that flexibility ossifying. I'm happy to produce a PR to address this in the spec. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2550 ----==_mimepart_5c98ff88cd1e1_20b83fed6a4d45bc363616 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We have space for private transport parameters and a process for assigning new standard transport parameters. However, since we do not apply GREASE to transport parameters, we leave ourselves open to that flexibility ossifying.

I'm happy to produce a PR to address this in the spec.

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Draft 19 says: > the HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME (0x01XX): An error in a specific frame type. If the frame type is "0xfe" or less, the type is included as the last byte of the error code. For example, an error in a MAX_PUSH_ID frame would be indicated with the code (0x10D). The last byte "0xff" is used to indicate any frame type greater than "0xfe". At the core of my perspective is that the document currently mixes the use of this error between truncated frames and more-semantic-level errors eg. * receiving a MAX_PUSH_ID with a value lower than a previously sent value. * PRIORITY (a super complicated frame) * SETTINGS (error with duplicate parameters). I'm not convinced these semantic errors are due to the frame being malformed, it is more 'misused'. Levelling up, I wonder if this error code is the best way of approaching the problems or if we could do something simpler. HTTP/2 had a HTTP_FRAME_SIZE error which was replaced by HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME. 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I remain unconvinced on the usefulness of the HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME error code.

Draft 19 says:

the HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME (0x01XX): An error in a specific frame type.
If the frame type is "0xfe" or less, the type is included as the
last byte of the error code. For example, an error in a
MAX_PUSH_ID frame would be indicated with the code (0x10D). The
last byte "0xff" is used to indicate any frame type greater than
"0xfe".

At the core of my perspective is that the document currently mixes the use of this error between truncated frames and more-semantic-level errors eg.

  • receiving a MAX_PUSH_ID with a value lower than a previously sent value.
  • PRIORITY (a super complicated frame)
  • SETTINGS (error with duplicate parameters).

I'm not convinced these semantic errors are due to the frame being malformed, it is more 'misused'. Levelling up, I wonder if this error code is the best way of approaching the problems or if we could do something simpler. HTTP/2 had a HTTP_FRAME_SIZE error which was replaced by HTTP_MALFORMED_FRAME.

Another wrinke is: What should an endpoint do if it receives an error that references an unknown frame type? An endpoint MUST ignore unknown types, and we have these in the form of grease frame types with values that are included in the error code space.

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----==_mimepart_5c9906dc27e83_2d233faef1ed45c45342a3-- From nobody Mon Mar 25 12:34:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4770120021 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m2_eYJ_K3j7s for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F1F812001B for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:34:20 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553542460; bh=u9sWMAjvI6/IajudrPjDbjMhBDzCGTB7q7awDQJwXs0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jWGgkorM7pDC1lJlYQRg6gSt7nXeoIfcACwfNBBAFc4itvcvt5YTZ14Uojc4T303I 9/pD8gWFmwH9a3jlBEadZ88C40H514Zwnms7XW46NGBGYDrL4yyNJX81wVflX7niWp 1fGRUQDZ5z07m+EJc/wZi37b0sxi0gjJkdWL3INw= From: Erik Sy Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Saving a round-trip time in the initial handshakes with retry (#2552) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c992d3c2be8e_76c83fd58a4d45b4175798"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: kirsey X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 19:34:24 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c992d3c2be8e_76c83fd58a4d45b4175798 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This issue suggests introducing a new transport parameter to support the sharing of address validation across different hostnames. The link below provides a detailed description and evaluation of this proposal: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1903.09466.pdf -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2552 ----==_mimepart_5c992d3c2be8e_76c83fd58a4d45b4175798 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This issue suggests introducing a new transport parameter to support the sharing of address validation across different hostnames.

The link below provides a detailed description and evaluation of this proposal:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1903.09466.pdf

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TCP does not use kGranularity because minRTO already accounts for it i= ndirectly i.e. minRTO values have never been allowed to be set lower than= the timer granularity. But yes in TCP minRTO is included in the exponent= ial backoff so it makes sense to keep the equation as is. I think we are = effectively using kGranularity as minRTO here.

In any case I think max_ack_delay is going to be the dominant value he= re in practice unless delayed ACKs are turned off. I wonder if another op= tion is this:
PTO =3D smoothed_rtt + max(4*rttvar) + max(max_ack_delay, kGranularity)

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Yes let's not exempt any data from CC, that's just dangerous on painfully slow links that are congested like 2G etc. CRYPTO frames should be counted in CC.

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All the arguments sounds reasonable to me. I'm fine with closing the issue.

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Please see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6298.txt Appendix A f= or a discussion of why the 1 second minimum was suggested for TCP. Based = on data quoted there, 2.5% connections will experience spurious retransmi= ssions if initialRTO < 1 second. Since QUIC will always get an RTT sam= ple when handshake completes, we don't need any provision to reset the In= itialRTT higher even if there were timeouts.

Orthogonal to this particular issue but a total timeout of 4 seconds (= or anything less than 9 seconds) is going to be a problem for VM live mig= rations. It's assumed that the blackout period for live migration can las= t as long as 9 seconds because historically TCP would always retransmit a= t least once after 9 seconds. I guess its not a problem for browsers but = if QUIC is used in other HTTP and non-HTTP libraries then connections wil= l break during LM.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c99550e93f4b_a7f3f99f40d45bc6498c-- From nobody Mon Mar 25 15:51:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E89120143 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:51:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xiZ-DREOWpvZ for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0EE6120134 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 15:51:19 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553554279; bh=sbaP7xSSmbWBBw3rchF16iDFfJHI3q+gFAo37UhorEk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ES2jv2Q9C4u5cS0x/vAHyIOXxb23qEif0sO47vP+MwkazoBA+9TATgX4VwC2f8o5t khCixMLXmajVCRmM2RXvaAnl8MI7RlK6fd8kFDrKAIFHNfst5FH4ZnQZbVJIQXHhVS TS+eRBUtLQySn4A3ROVbhL3y56GSNmEM9iAG002c= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kInitialRtt of 100 msec is too aggressive (#2184) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c995b679999d_39c73f8d8f4d45c0444415"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 22:51:23 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c995b679999d_39c73f8d8f4d45c0444415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the additional information. The data is from 2009(https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/75/slides/tcpm-1.pdf), but still seems largely plausible in terms of RTTs, though I'm sure some details have changed. One thought is that the client may have a better idea of what it's RTT is than the server does when there is no resumption information available. As such, we could pick a fairly conservative value(ie: 1s) on the server and if the client retransmits(and the server receives) the ClientHello more frequently, the server should retransmit its response as well. In practice, the current anti-amplification limit of 3x amount to exactly that in a lot of circumstances, so making it core to the handshake mechanism may be wise. On the other hand, this is a special case unless we tweak the anti-amplification limit to be min(3 packets, initial server flight). The 4 second timeout I mentioned is for the handshake. I would expect live migrations to not occur during the handshake, or at least not expect the handshake to complete in that case, but maybe that's not true? We experimented with bumping the timeout to 10 seconds a while back in gQUIC, but there were some performance regressions and we didn't dig in deeply enough to understand why. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2184#issuecomment-476407605 ----==_mimepart_5c995b679999d_39c73f8d8f4d45c0444415 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for the additional information. The data is from 2009(= https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/75/slides/tcpm-1.pdf), but still see= ms largely plausible in terms of RTTs, though I'm sure some details have = changed.

One thought is that the client may have a better idea of what it's RTT= is than the server does when there is no resumption information availabl= e. As such, we could pick a fairly conservative value(ie: 1s) on the ser= ver and if the client retransmits(and the server receives) the ClientHell= o more frequently, the server should retransmit its response as well. I= n practice, the current anti-amplification limit of 3x amount to exactly = that in a lot of circumstances, so making it core to the handshake mechan= ism may be wise. On the other hand, this is a special case unless we twe= ak the anti-amplification limit to be min(3 packets, initial server fligh= t).

The 4 second timeout I mentioned is for the handshake. I would expect= live migrations to not occur during the handshake, or at least not expec= t the handshake to complete in that case, but maybe that's not true? We = experimented with bumping the timeout to 10 seconds a while back in gQUIC= , but there were some performance regressions and we didn't dig in deeply= enough to understand why.

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Before I permanently close this, I want to ask if the existing text needs clarification?

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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even if pacing it used, we should not give the impressing that keeping your cwnd at a high value forever/for a very long idle time is a good idea. 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Even if pacing it used, we should not give the impressing that keeping your cwnd at a high value forever/for a very long idle time is a good idea.

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Closed #1978.

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As discussed in Prague, the plan is to write an extension and get some more experimental data, but close this for v1.

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This would also address #2471, I believe, so please consider closing this if it covers all the issues. I'll look at the PR in a few days.

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----==_mimepart_5c99ff39ae980_ab33fd0cf6d45b8495491-- From nobody Tue Mar 26 03:34:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D63D12014F for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 03:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z-BcWONywl2t for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 03:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70086120296 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 03:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 03:34:53 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553596493; bh=qkw0YzCLcX1i8h6rI05ph0e5zE0zGePMh9iR7xBNOys=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Xpbw6ZSJHemrr0FDbQt1nfPHhFSLkbGU23IC9UDUG4AzWBoE6NWcYUsUG3fPAS7k5 YtTSB5NhCdvP1kZNMFCnJZsr+kqkPmPDwyGM2rUGkV7GkmO4wBjP/+Zvo9m+zionh/ LBnil0bc4MzBQl3bF4UnPf0ouMW2+wU0LYGva96M= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kGranularity and max_ack_delay possibly should be added after exponential backoff (#2393) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9a004d21014_792a3fe9714d45b422761"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:34:56 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9a004d21014_792a3fe9714d45b422761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As discussed in Prague, the feeling is the current formula is safe, correct, and follows RFC6298. This formula was recently adjusted as a result of #2472 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2393#issuecomment-476566083 ----==_mimepart_5c9a004d21014_792a3fe9714d45b422761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

As discussed in Prague, the feeling is the current formula is safe, correct, and follows RFC6298.

This formula was recently adjusted as a result of #2472

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After discussion in Prague, we agreed we're happy with the number of p= ackets sent upon PTO. This issue originally referenced whether QUIC shou= ld suggest 1 TLP or 2 TLPs in a row before RTO. Now that QUIC uses PTO w= ith exponential backoff, that's largely solved, but there is still a deta= il issue of whether the current multiplier of PTO should be 3 or 2. 2 is= the value that would have naturally resulted if we previously recommende= d 1 TLP previously.

@pravb Indicated he'd open a new issue for this 2 vs 3 questi= on, and we should close this issue.

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The discussion in Prague concluded that we should recommend 1 second to = align with RFC6298 and clarify when previous RTT estimates should be expire= d(ie: upon network change) and when the persisted RTT associated with 0-RTT= credentials should no longer be used(ie: upon network change).

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= ----==_mimepart_5c9a06ffe98d4_5ab03fe2c56d45c41681e6-- From nobody Tue Mar 26 04:08:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD626120309 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:08:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U-jFA1VX6OJk for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6D371202F1 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:08:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553598494; bh=KG7XRmCeJIouJdd7SQUMUQFgO5DNGTa9UMMil64uVNE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=aQJ2QXpiTob7zsUjvmpApY843EnNKQwX9oBX8SsTEfkIwTOuxyi55wuvoEiutPZuS CO9B4mZqdZJ+SGgiE+lCEpkDhWLayhB69122uDr9GwKO0icjaEFr4dnc3qsBv4OJ+n dubEcpE28G8zt2niRGQUrkJHSAeow+4b/ZtmbdDg= From: Loganaden Velvindron Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] kInitialRtt of 100 msec is too aggressive (#2184) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9a081e90286_5dfc3fc1a08d45b853163"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: loganaden X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:08:25 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9a081e90286_5dfc3fc1a08d45b853163 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are cases where the RTT is above 200ms. E.g From Mauritius to the US: 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=370 ms 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=387 ms 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=411 ms 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=492 ms 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=506 ms 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=6 ttl=48 time=370 ms 64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=7 ttl=48 time=410 ms -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2184#issuecomment-476579209 ----==_mimepart_5c9a081e90286_5dfc3fc1a08d45b853163 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There are cases where the RTT is above 200ms. E.g From Mauritius to th= e US:

64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D48 time=3D37= 0 ms
64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D2 ttl=3D48 time=3D387 m= s
64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D3 ttl=3D48 time=3D411 m= s
64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D4 ttl=3D48 time=3D492 m= s
64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D5 ttl=3D48 time=3D506 m= s
64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D6 ttl=3D48 time=3D370 m= s
64 bytes from 208.95.3.4 (208.95.3.4): icmp_seq=3D7 ttl=3D48 time=3D410 m= s

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I think this looks good, some small suggestions. > @@ -724,13 +724,11 @@ in Linux (3.11 onwards). A sender becomes idle if it ceases to send data and has no bytes in flight. A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase while it is idle. -When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestion window -to the initial congestion window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}), unless it -paces the sending of packets. A sender MAY retain its congestion window if it -paces the sending of any packets in excess of the initial congestion window. - -A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion window -after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}. +When sending data after becoming idle and a sender does not pace the sending +of pacjets, it MUST reset its congestion window to the initial congestion ```suggestion of packets, it MUST reset its congestion window to the initial congestion ``` > @@ -724,13 +724,11 @@ in Linux (3.11 onwards). A sender becomes idle if it ceases to send data and has no bytes in flight. A sender's congestion window MUST NOT increase while it is idle. -When sending data after becoming idle, a sender MUST reset its congestion window -to the initial congestion window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}), unless it -paces the sending of packets. A sender MAY retain its congestion window if it -paces the sending of any packets in excess of the initial congestion window. - -A sender MAY implement alternate mechanisms to update its congestion window -after idle periods, such as those proposed for TCP in {{?RFC7661}}. +When sending data after becoming idle and a sender does not pace the sending +of pacjets, it MUST reset its congestion window to the initial congestion +window (see Section 4.1 of {{?RFC5681}}). 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I think this looks good, some small suggestions.

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And changing your mind is=0D perfectly acceptable.=0D =0D But RESET_STREAM doesn't really cover it. Streams can get blocked,=0D requests can go out with additional flow control credits, and maybe even=0D= STOP_SENDING makes sense. So this changes it so that any stream-related=0D= frame (those that exist to convey application state or manage it), can=0D= be sent in 0-RTT. That seems more principled than just adding=0D RESET_STREAM.=0D =0D Closes #2344.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 59580812145936f7089586212155f14f4495d49f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/59580812145936f7089586= 212155f14f4495d49f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-01-22 (Tue, 22 Jan 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-http.md=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Expand the anti-replay story=0D =0D The inclusion of RESET_STREAM (and all other frame types) in 0-RTT=0D inspired me to do some more analysis and due diligence on anti-replay.=0D= =0D This adds a security considerations section with requirements for=0D application protocols. That section explains more about what the risks=0D= for QUIC are, how QUIC itself isn't affected, but how an application=0D protocol might be.=0D =0D It also adds a section to the HTTP draft citing RFC 8470, explaining how=0D= that analysis is sufficient for HTTP/3.=0D =0D =0D Commit: f9d24ec32312d0d0328c4d9057838d5653ece8e6=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/f9d24ec32312d0d0328c4d= 9057838d5653ece8e6=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-01-22 (Tue, 22 Jan 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Missing 'only'=0D =0D =0D Commit: 0fe91c8cb89eed4b0a63b5994c7287933d37a54c=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/0fe91c8cb89eed4b0a63b5= 994c7287933d37a54c=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-01-23 (Wed, 23 Jan 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Fix CONNECTION_CLOSE=0D =0D =0D Commit: 63e18037753f70bb641b5a77a6c37bceba05baa5=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/63e18037753f70bb641b5a= 77a6c37bceba05baa5=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-01-30 (Wed, 30 Jan 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Remove requirement for reciprocal connection ID change=0D =0D Closes #1795, #2145.=0D =0D =0D Commit: 23014c8b8a59be658a5156ae46fcbacc7e681311=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/23014c8b8a59be658a5156= ae46fcbacc7e681311=0D Author: ianswett =0D Date: 2019-01-30 (Wed, 30 Jan 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D remove redundant word=0D =0D Co-Authored-By: martinthomson =0D =0D =0D Commit: fdfb19d5922e75b5d6b93eda217e3a9c242308f6=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/fdfb19d5922e75b5d6b93e= da217e3a9c242308f6=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-01-31 (Thu, 31 Jan 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-tls.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Move PADDING up=0D =0D =0D Commit: 48002d0f68802958f856a2a15cb41b079e355e88=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/48002d0f68802958f856a2= a15cb41b079e355e88=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D Editorial changes=0D =0D =0D Commit: 13698cbe311922a3995236dda960b4cdff49e36f=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/13698cbe311922a3995236= dda960b4cdff49e36f=0D Author: Martin Thomson =0D Date: 2019-02-05 (Tue, 05 Feb 2019)=0D =0D Changed paths:=0D M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md=0D =0D Log Message:=0D -----------=0D New connection IDs are mandatory for intentional migration=0D =0D I could have sworn we agreed to this previously, but I also can't find=0D= where we captured it. So here it is. 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This is a deviation from how congestion control works in deployed TCP implementation. We need a crisp definition of what is meant by "full utilization". I also have concern that this will make QUICs performance for bulk transfers poorer than TCP because application I/O patterns and scheduling of the sending thread will affect cwnd growth. After making the definition crisp and consensus that we need to include such a provision, the pseudo code will need to be updated to handle this as well. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2554 ----==_mimepart_5c9a27843b038_409c3ff0026d45c0148461 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The text in recovery draft 19 says "The congestion window should not be increased in slow start or
congestion avoidance when it is not fully utilized". This is a deviation from how congestion control works in deployed TCP implementation. We need a crisp definition of what is meant by "full utilization". I also have concern that this will make QUICs performance for bulk transfers poorer than TCP because application I/O patterns and scheduling of the sending thread will affect cwnd growth. After making the definition crisp and consensus that we need to include such a provision, the pseudo code will need to be updated to handle this as well.

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Currently the recovery draft 19 requires the sender to either reducing the cwnd to initial cwnd OR pace the send after idle. Idle is defined as "it ceases to send data and has no bytes in
flight" . This will mean that just a very small delay in the sending application thread will cause QUIC to reset its cwnd when not pacing. IMO we need to define an interval for this which could be a function of kGranularity or as PTO. FWIW in TCP the idle period for cwnd restart is defined as one retransmission timeout (reference https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5681 Section 4.1).

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Both Linux and Windows TCP arm a single PTO for TLP and then arm the RTO. The recommendation in RACK draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-rack is also for doing a single TLP. If we keep the value as 2 then we need to add a justification statement for deviating from TCP. It would be good to find out if Yuchung has a any data on why Linux settled on a single TLP (PTO).

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(#2556) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9a35569c49b_78ce3fa23dcd45b469943"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak2ZG4A9HhOlr5HWINlQmrM0HlWsFwhTb9Of7o 3xX+4q8wY5fiOSkjzDfcHVW+BkzCO8/JJHG7IMG2iQOOOIvusexbU1okc8kPVlzRwyYPRXJAQ9g0tO JDaX6bl7ihqE6W7zQKO1TUjYi3iz+MGsSPrFOg0aGwVEj7ZLI3BQcYapjUsAFltxQp/YXcW4mFQ2X2 Q= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 14:21:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9a35569c49b_78ce3fa23dcd45b469943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The recovery draft currently says MUST send 1, and MAY send up to 2 (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#rfc.section.6.3.2). 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The recovery draft currently says MUST send 1, and MAY send up to 2 (https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#rfc.section.6.3.2). Is that not good enough?

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----==_mimepart_5c9a35569c49b_78ce3fa23dcd45b469943-- From nobody Tue Mar 26 08:37:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024F21204C2 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:37:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zuDH8f6AjIZR for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3717312046A for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 08:36:57 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553614617; bh=Ez9du03Ei+PBnNnqkNgaOakRHqG19UKGUVIpBK6V5u8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ieJWkHz/lG2LQWdcNq0nZZU6/TyMonOwTSe9KMlrKGxu53popCOpo1uJNBYbsDWw+ Y7RO57n4aLLWgZ1itJ+ScdhWMPl67azMjoW5SObbPZozEoNn5L2DK5I0AKUFtufIHD bmXM2XQFO8crzZDrRiMOTCGqe2BGx7ppW0ySDC2w= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Should kPersistentCongestionThreshold be 1 or 2? (#2556) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9a4719ed4be_6ca3fe8daed45c47786b6"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:37:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9a4719ed4be_6ca3fe8daed45c47786b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The issue is about the length of the persistent congestion period. If the -16 draft recommended 1 TLP before the first RTO instead of 2 TLPs before RTO(See https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2185), then the natural persistent congestion time period would be 2 * PTO instead of 3 * PTO. As an editorial issue, as Jana and I discussed yesterday, we should make kPersistentCongestionThreshold a direct constant, not an exponent - 1, because it's making this more confusing to think about. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2556#issuecomment-476707358 ----==_mimepart_5c9a4719ed4be_6ca3fe8daed45c47786b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The issue is about the length of the persistent congestion period. If= the -16 draft recommended 1 TLP before the first RTO instead of 2 TLPs b= efore RTO(See #2185), then the natural persistent congestion t= ime period would be 2 * PTO instead of 3 * PTO.

As an editorial issue, as Jana and I discussed yesterday, we should ma= ke kPersistentCongestionThreshold a direct constant, not an exponent - 1,= because it's making this more confusing to think about.

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Last time I talked to Yuchung, I remember him saying they chose 1 somewh= at arbitrarily.

I'm going to argue for 2 (3 * PTO) as a good number because it provides = enough time for the PTO timer to go off twice now that the PTO has exponent= ial backoff. This is in some ways more similar to 1 TLP and then 1RTO in t= erms of network load. Additionally, I believe making it only 1 would allow= a single tail packet to be lost and persistent congestion to be declared i= f there was some RTT variation? That certainly seems undesirable.

Maybe the rationale for why this value was chosen should be clarified fu= rther?

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However, this still has the problem that if I don't pace and I have a = window of 100 packets, I can burst 100 packets into the network. This se= ems suboptimal from both the sender and the network's perspective.

Now that I think about it, I think the concept of limiting the size of= a burst is the key here, not so much idleness, and I think defining idle= more accurately is both not necessary and likely to be difficult. Ideal= ly you would send no more than max(10, BW * kTimerGranularity) packets in= to the network at once.

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This simplifies the definition of kPersistentThreshold from an exponent to a PTO multiplier.

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  • Simplify kPersistentThreshold

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This looks good, but I think we need to move a lot of the rationale back into the normative text from the pseudocode. You can do that in this PR or as we resolve #2555

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----==_mimepart_5c9a5050a77c5_19b13fa1aced45bc3176c7-- From nobody Tue Mar 26 10:09:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75431120423 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DBUiEBbegZOr for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o8.sgmail.github.com (o8.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D43F91202FA for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=ZI9XDBCph+UAqMgx8pX8qkHZU9w=; b=hbBJd87rQNwazgBI pDTrmh7xq/lVuKSdm0rsCYwDvQtG5qSD4/zgFkzyZ7MJ/JtzXEg8/YShMFpYQT4g vAjE8kqyBZ8czYezGLqrgmchSK1QMZIPTSZsyCUPC+xCshXUI0tVtZnIJUWvC1Pn R4bK1XhbnYPNED5x3GCMduKgz+4= Received: by filter1709p1mdw1.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter1709p1mdw1-3542-5C9A5CE0-17 2019-03-26 17:09:52.37740219 +0000 UTC m=+693720.329332388 Received: from github-lowworker-63e61ec.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.36]) by ismtpd0010p1iad1.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id vDkBMVI5QRKRx4VcR8v7WQ for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:09:52.356 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-63e61ec.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BC62A086E for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2019 10:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Should kPersistentCongestionThreshold be 1 or 2? (#2556) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9a5ce056bef_24573f8b4b2d45b811030"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0CSpJoL9nxe9yscoBX+EvzSo4yXlcY5A6hjt aN+fVW1uPBDL5qk/EnTsQ+oN5iaHb/4x+yyl+46kPGxh6DrOjI+1o8oQ+zcSlIdC3fpA3hsBUY77MV Ruxrwx4RlZ22eOmS8eHXiGQUjQ/aKZ20H95rOFHSKLLx04XT9Hppx7yrL/xOrDofvlREqpu26Ahgmp U= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:09:57 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9a5ce056bef_24573f8b4b2d45b811030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *facepalm* @ianswett, of course. (Also, FWIW, PR #2557 makes this a simple multiplier, so let's just use that language.) So I think I may have the opposite concern to @pravb. The mechanisms we are talking about are subtly different, so let's just talk about behavior instead of the mechanisms. TCP RTO uses a minRTO while PTO does not. As a result, in the common case, persistent congestion for TCP will be declared at minRTO (or later). We risk declaring persistent congestion too soon with QUIC, even with 3 PTOs, since minRTO is at least 200ms for TCP, AFAIK. QUIC might be too aggressive in declaring persistent congestion. This might be actually bad for performance. Anecdotally, I remember that Yuchung had tried turning on [RTO Restart](https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/materials/slides-85-tcpm-2) and found that it increased spurious RTOs. While spurious PTOs are not bad in QUIC, we don't yet have a way to detect spuriously declared persistent congestion. This makes me wonder if we should use a min value for declaring persistent congestion. I think this is justifiable as based on best current practice that we know in TCP and that declaring congestion too soon might hurt throughput. (Note that a min is still unnecessary for QUIC PTO because spurious PTOs have only minor bandwidth cost.) As a strawman, I'll propose that we set the persistent congestion time period to max(PTO, 200ms). Why PTO and not 3 * PTO? Because I believe (and someone can prove me wrong) that TCP actually does use a single RTO period for declaring an RTO, despite potentially sending TLPs in that time period. >From the RACK draft, my understanding is that sending TLPs in TCP does not actually change the RTO timer, which runs for the same amount of time (from the last ack received in practice or the earliest outstanding data). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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facepalm @ianswett, of course. (Also, FWIW, PR #2557 makes this a simple multiplier, so let's just use that language.)

So I think I may have the opposite concern to @pravb. The mechanisms = we are talking about are subtly different, so let's just talk about behavio= r instead of the mechanisms.

TCP RTO uses a minRTO while PTO does not. As a result, in the common cas= e, persistent congestion for TCP will be declared at minRTO (or later). We = risk declaring persistent congestion too soon with QUIC, even with 3 PTOs, = since minRTO is at least 200ms for TCP, AFAIK. QUIC might be too aggressive= in declaring persistent congestion.

This might be actually bad for performance. Anecdotally, I remember that= Yuchung had tried turning on RTO Restart and foun= d that it increased spurious RTOs. While spurious PTOs are not bad in QUIC= , we don't yet have a way to detect spuriously declared persistent congesti= on.

This makes me wonder if we should use a min value for declaring persiste= nt congestion. I think this is justifiable as based on best current practic= e that we know in TCP and that declaring congestion too soon might hurt thr= oughput. (Note that a min is still unnecessary for QUIC PTO because spuriou= s PTOs have only minor bandwidth cost.)

As a strawman, I'll propose that we set the persistent congestion time p= eriod to max(PTO, 200ms).

Why PTO and not 3 * PTO? Because I believe (and someone can prove me wro= ng) that TCP actually does use a single RTO period for declaring an RTO, de= spite potentially sending TLPs in that time period.
>From the RACK draft, my understanding is that sending TLPs in TCP does not = actually change the RTO timer, which runs for the same amount of time (from= the last ack received in practice or the earliest outstanding data).

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I think let's keep that separate. I think #2555 might end up with different outcomes anyways.

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Hi, sorry for letting this issue sit. Adding dynamic reordering tolerance is far from noncontroversial, so I'll close this for now. Maybe we can consider it in the next version.

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Until such a change is applied to the HTTP and QPACK specs, we rely on the guidance in section 3.2: > Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter "initial_max_uni_streams". There is an implicit assumption in this present state that assumes these three streams will be used for the "critical streams" - Control stream, QPACK Encoder Stream and QPACK Decoder stream. The outcome of the Tokyo discussion didn't seem to me to identify the impact on initial_max_uni_streams. HTTP/3 reserves code points for GREASING but doesn't provide much guidance on their usage. It says "MUST ignore" and CAN send reserved stream types. In contrast Transport is a little stronger and says that: > A server SHOULD include a reserved version (see Section 15) while generating a Version Negotiation packet. Not sending GREASE negates its powers. GREASE streams are not the only consumer of unidirectional credit. It seems feasible that an endpoint might optimise for some use cases and decide push on 2-out-of-three streams it was given the credit for. This depends on receiving MAX_PUSH_ID on the control stream, of course. The control stream unfortunately has dubious language: > Each side MUST initiate a single control stream at the beginning of the connection. When is the beginning of beginning and when is the end of beginning? Mike somewhat answered this question in #2038 (Default settings in HTTP): > You're still required to send/consume SETTINGS -- you're just allowed to use a basic version of the protocol for the (hopefully very brief) period where you haven't seen it yet. I'm dubious anyone would decide it's better to send an empty SETTINGS frame and continue using the defaults forever, certainly not to the point that extensibility withers. Is the end the beginning once SETTINGS have been sent? PR #2529 was an attempt at scurry along the spec change #2100 wanted. Created in response to hitting an interop issue causes by the old requirement to "MUST create one QPACK Encoder and Decoder stream" conflicting with the "SHOULD allow initial max 3". However, the issue I see with the way the specs would look like with this specification is that there is not much determinism on how an endpoint should use MAX_STREAMS and how it can the unidirectional streams it makes available will be used. For example, * a client advertises 3 initial max uni streams, likewise a server advertises 3 * a server creates a 2 grease streams and 1 encoder stream * Recall the Tokyo outcome was "creating them is not forbidden even if the setting prevents their use" and by default value of SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY is 0 if you never receive a SETTING that tells you otherwise * the client expects 3 "critical streams", so banks the difference (2) and gives unidirectional stream credit by sending a MAX_STREAMS frame of value 5 * the client opens a grease stream, a control stream, and 1 encoder stream * the client sends SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY = Y * the client sends MAX_PUSH_ID = 3 * the client sends a request with static compression * the server sends 3 PUSH_PROMISES and attempts to push 3 resources. * the server wishes to open N unidirectional extension streams * the server sends STREAMS_BLOCKED with the value of 5 * the client sends a request with dynamic compression * the server wishes to open a decoder and sends STREAMS_BLOCKED with the value of 5 a) What value of MAX_STREAMS is suitable for a client to send? b) if the value is < N+2 what is a suitable rate to send STREAMS_BLOCKED? c) will this just devolve to a cycle of one endpoint sending STREAMS_BLOCKED and the other echoing back MAX_STREAMS (value +1) until the other side shuts up? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In Tokyo 2019, we discussed #2100 (Avoid creating QPACK str= eams when unnecessary) and came upon the conclusion:

Discussed in Tokyo; do not require creating the streams, but creating = them is not forbidden even if the setting prevents their use.

Until such a change is applied to the HTTP and QPACK specs, we rely on= the guidance in section 3.2:

Both clients and servers SHOULD send a value of three or greater for the QUIC transport parameter "initial_max_uni_streams".

There is an implicit assumption in this present state that assumes the= se three streams will be used for the "critical streams" - Control stream= , QPACK Encoder Stream and QPACK Decoder stream. The outcome of the Tokyo= discussion didn't seem to me to identify the impact on initial_max_uni_s= treams.

HTTP/3 reserves code points for GREASING but doesn't provide much guid= ance on their usage. It says "MUST ignore" and CAN send reserved stream t= ypes. In contrast Transport is a little stronger and says that:

A server SHOULD include a reserved version (see Section 15) while gene= rating a Version Negotiation packet.

Not sending GREASE negates its powers.

GREASE streams are not the only consumer of unidirectional credit. It = seems feasible that an endpoint might optimise for some use cases and dec= ide push on 2-out-of-three streams it was given the credit for. This depe= nds on receiving MAX_PUSH_ID on the control stream, of course.

The control stream unfortunately has dubious language:

Each side MUST initiate a single control stream at the beginning of the connection.

When is the beginning of beginning and when is the end of beginning? M= ike somewhat answered this question in #2038 (Default setti= ngs in HTTP):

You're still required to send/consume SETTINGS -- you're just allowed = to use a basic version of the protocol for the (hopefully very brief) per= iod where you haven't seen it yet. I'm dubious anyone would decide it's b= etter to send an empty SETTINGS frame and continue using the defaults for= ever, certainly not to the point that extensibility withers.

Is the end the beginning once SETTINGS have been sent?

PR #2529 was an attempt at scurry along the spec change = #2100 wanted. Created in response to hitting an interop issue = causes by the old requirement to "MUST create one QPACK Encoder and Decod= er stream" conflicting with the "SHOULD allow initial max 3". However, th= e issue I see with the way the specs would look like with this specificat= ion is that there is not much determinism on how an endpoint should use M= AX_STREAMS and how it can the unidirectional streams it makes available w= ill be used. For example,

  • a client advertises 3 initial max uni streams, likewise a server adve= rtises 3
  • a server creates a 2 grease streams and 1 encoder stream
    • Recall the Tokyo outcome was "creating them is not forbidden even if = the setting prevents their use" and by default value of SETTINGS_QPACK_MA= X_TABLE_CAPACITY is 0 if you never receive a SETTING that tells you other= wise
  • the client expects 3 "critical streams", so banks the difference (2) = and gives unidirectional stream credit by sending a MAX_STREAMS frame of = value 5
  • the client opens a grease stream, a control stream, and 1 encoder str= eam
  • the client sends SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY =3D Y
  • the client sends MAX_PUSH_ID =3D 3
  • the client sends a request with static compression
  • the server sends 3 PUSH_PROMISES and attempts to push 3 resources.
  • the server wishes to open N unidirectional extension streams
  • the server sends STREAMS_BLOCKED with the value of 5
  • the client sends a request with dynamic compression
  • the server wishes to open a decoder and sends STREAMS_BLOCKED with th= e value of 5

a) What value of MAX_STREAMS is suitable for a client to send?
b) if the value is < N+2 what is a suitable rate to send STREAMS_BLOCK= ED?
c) will this just devolve to a cycle of one endpoint sending STREAMS_BLOC= KED and the other echoing back MAX_STREAMS (value +1) until the other sid= e shuts up?

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c) will this just devolve to a cycle of one endpoint sending STREAMS_B= LOCKED and the other echoing back MAX_STREAMS (value +1) until the other = side shuts up?

It seems to me that this is the worst case, and that if we think it's = fine then every other questions can be considered fine.

My position is that having this worst case is fine.

Many types of greasing (e.g., version negotiation, retry, HelloRetryRe= quest) introduces one extra roundtrip. So having one extra round-trip whe= n opening one greasing stream sounds not unreasonable.

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So having one extra round-trip when opening one greasing stream sounds= not unreasonable.

I'm ok with that but it also risks affecting all unidirectional stream= types. Server push somewhat skirts the issue by providing a signal (coun= ting PUSH_PROMISEs) that enhances the clients knowledge. QPACK is part wa= y there because non-zero SETTINGS_QPACK_MAX_TABLE_CAPACITY implies that s= ome credit from both ends is required.

Perhaps we could summarise some guidance for people about the RTT incu= rred by these streams and ways to avoid them.

A totally different alternative that might turn out in practice easier= is to simply set max_initial_uni_streams to a very large number, and set= the initial_max_stream_data_uni to a low number (8 bytes would be enough= to peak at the stream type). This way the client has far more insight in= to what the other side is attempting to do and can exercise stream contro= l as suited to its needs. All while avoiding this weird cycle.

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Perhaps we could summarise some guidance for people about the RTT incurred by these streams and ways to avoid them.

Agreed. Recommending "at least three, but more is better because there could be other types of streams" makes sense to me.

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That sounds right.

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I think that this has resolved into an editorial-level conclusion. (That I agree with.)

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thanks; let's make this change in #2364 (paging @ihlar)

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This was fixed with #2483.

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Closed #2495.

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Discussed in Prague; no pushback against making them mandatory.

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Discussed in Prague; hum supported closing (with impact on applicability statement), but was not unanimous. Will try to establish consensus on-list; people who want to continue should focus on establishing a threat model.

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I don't see why we need to change the spec. The node proposes N connection ID, the peer chooses one of them. If the node wants a fixed length, it restricts itself to use proposing a fixed length.

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Discussed in Prague; hum strongly supported closing with no action, but some interest in a new issue constraining to server preferred address (but will require substantial information, e.g., solid use case).

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@martinthomson said it right at the mike: this is a key update scenario, from 0-RTT to 1-RTT key. Treat it the same way as peer continuing using old key after key update.

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Discussed in Prague; flag for v2.

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Closed #2441.

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Reopened #2441.

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Discussed in Prague; seems to be a dup of #2436; will confirm and close.

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FWIW, PR #2428 that resolves the issue has been merged, and (some of) the editors considered the PR as an editorial change.

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----==_mimepart_5c9b40387db4a_6d7b3fea892d45c047763-- From nobody Wed Mar 27 02:25:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE2312045F for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:25:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b6nqcx3rk_rW for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC83512025C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:25:40 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553678740; bh=eVsfoCGN1XZ1Bn4AYyclEcab+RBbWN6nhBpUy6zxM4o=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=14pajUXePuIpNJZkk5gQ71jkzSglYIg30R5eNiisUH+1Ci95x9dag7t1uqpRLyOyP 6pAl1TqsEYJwrnSrgLXGviX8BoGDKAtDoNbt4rnoNbRztfmWj7l1ShYEV1n6a6eNzo SaBfWcHgQFYE3y5w/JGDpcea+1EBUEXaxoSYOnhw= From: Mark Nottingham Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] VN packets may be dropped more often when the QUIC bit is 0 (#2400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9b419482ac8_256a3fab2dcd45c0960fc"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mnot X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:25:51 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9b419482ac8_256a3fab2dcd45c0960fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Discussed in Prague; proposal to encourage senders in v1 to set to `1`; retain requirement in invariants to ignore. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2400#issuecomment-477057693 ----==_mimepart_5c9b419482ac8_256a3fab2dcd45c0960fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Discussed in Prague; proposal to encourage senders in v1 to set to 1; retain requirement in invariants to ignore.

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Discussed in Prague; believe it's a dup of #2458.

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I suggest that this is a duplicate of #2471, that we discussed in Prague today.

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This must be ignored, and should be set to 1.

Closes #2400.

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[ci skip] From nobody Wed Mar 27 02:46:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48A61202A7 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:46:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EocKQpsmCdJa for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o1.sgmail.github.com (o1.sgmail.github.com [192.254.114.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3028C1202C4 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:46:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=Y14Cc1VMhMigf3s4IJw1jdL4rPE=; b=GK4NgViaCcpfWkxi p+Rwp411S8HcW/lbpJvuVUvf2OeywvbUOtvP1cP5oRgt96zUJXhfJm95TxCQ+L8T 3Uxy16+/hSqR9LfdMCDNS3WCwBuMw2KW+wETdgSkvTvW1XEKKhO64Wo4cplCyVYw rduJIXRd6QU5z77QmWMVsxXHUaI= Received: by filter0357p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0357p1iad2-10116-5C9B4663-2 2019-03-27 09:46:11.094031928 +0000 UTC m=+365860.284448044 Received: from github-lowworker-c7d2ff2.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.32]) by ismtpd0026p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id 3k8f6YcvS9GJCMFbueP4xA for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:46:11.050 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-c7d2ff2.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022364C0306 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:46:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be clearer about the purpose of disable_migration (#2389) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9b466392f_525a3f9dd54d45c42806"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak066y1MAEIRoxNtpq5YX32VQP5mbeIC+hV7Xh AFnP2zlMzs25ngbNF6mngjdEfF/0h7zXXqdzfmWMU1Ruq1n7kvywEkidV6S6ZoQV9Yf8DHJ2S3A44x qg/9WPFu3uWxDomrt6OpRZ2ne0ynQIXq70iaNsttl9rCwTLkXHmYn7vQ4YwS2q11OB+dSc5CLPIsb2 k= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 09:46:17 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9b466392f_525a3f9dd54d45c42806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having re-read the minutes from Tokyo, I would re-articulate the problem statement a bit. As you said, disable_migration is an indication from a server that the serving infrastructure cannot handle client address changes. I don't think there's any confusion on this purpose. The pending question IMO is what a server should do if it disables migration and then receives packets on the connection from a different address. @martinthomson : Do you agree? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2389#issuecomment-477066276 ----==_mimepart_5c9b466392f_525a3f9dd54d45c42806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Having re-read the minutes from Tokyo, I would re-articulate the problem= statement a bit. As you said, disable_migration is an indication from a se= rver that the serving infrastructure cannot handle client address changes. = I don't think there's any confusion on this purpose. The pending question I= MO is what a server should do if it disables migration and then receives pa= ckets on the connection from a different address.

@martinthomson : Do you agree?

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I think that this has resolved into an editorial-level conclusion. (That I agree with.)

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----==_mimepart_5c9b6fd8aa0c4_5d063ff73e8d45bc1321c1-- From nobody Wed Mar 27 06:03:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1F71202B9 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:03:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TQbV8bJ3gyNQ for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF18C1202AF for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 06:03:22 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553691802; bh=WgbsUgmhAMiKiTApvWpj+L6Va3DKmeAYLtiXsG77N+w=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=Te2SwrWAmPDnGbPF5RKUenNv5lHUaqIX/fw8vAWYmSdcZQ8K6IdCjQHYK3DI4GHxA uNguKJKH/m1wl2S5BkmKpV29C/uqXVhd4rXdpLWt5IS9OXGGtI3yCzK1UppKdXB1Z7 Dx8hy88J/OCpm71B25X1GDkKjniRAgUuN99pjAhg= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Transport parameters are mandatory. Fixes #2528 (#2560) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9b749a80d16_740e3f85ae6d45c0312380"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 13:03:26 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9b749a80d16_740e3f85ae6d45c0312380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit janaiyengar commented on this pull request. > @@ -1249,7 +1249,11 @@ quic_transport_parameters extension carries a TransportParameters struct when the version of QUIC defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is used. The quic_transport_parameters extension is carried in the ClientHello and the -EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake. +EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake. Endpoints MUST send the +quic_transport_parameters extension; endpoints that receive ClientHello or +EncryptedExtensions messages without the quic_transport_parameters extension +MUST terminate the TLS handshake with a fatal missing_extension alert (an error ```suggestion MUST close the connection with an error of type 0x16d (equivalent to a fatal TLS missing_extension alert, see Section {{tls-errors}}). ``` > @@ -1258,8 +1262,8 @@ parameters will cause the handshake to fail. Endpoints MUST NOT send this extension in a TLS connection that does not use QUIC (such as the use of TLS with TCP defined in {{!TLS13}}). A fatal -unsupported_extension alert MUST be sent if this extension is received when the -transport is not QUIC. +unsupported_extension alert (an error of 0x16e) MUST be sent if this extension +is received when the transport is not QUIC. This is not just in your text, but while you're here, also replace the text with: "The connection MUST be closed with an error code of type 0x16e (equivalent to a fatal TLS unsupported_extension alert, see Section {{tls-errors}}) if the transport is not QUIC." -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2560#pullrequestreview-219440815 ----==_mimepart_5c9b749a80d16_740e3f85ae6d45c0312380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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meters extension carries a TransportParameters struct when=0D
 the version of QUIC defined in {{QUIC-TRANSPORT}} is used.=0D
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 The quic_transport_parameters extension is carried in the ClientHello an=
d the=0D
-EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake.=0D
+EncryptedExtensions messages during the handshake. Endpoints MUST send t=
he=0D
+quic_transport_parameters extension; endpoints that receive ClientHello =
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+EncryptedExtensions messages without the quic_transport_parameters exten=
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+MUST terminate the TLS handshake with a fatal missing_extension alert (a=
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-MUST terminate the TLS handshake with a fatal=
 missing_extension alert (an error=0D
+MUST close the connection with an error of type 0x16d (equivalent to a f=
atal TLS missing_extension alert, see Section {{tls-errors}}).=0D
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In draft-ietf-quic-tls.md:

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> @@ -1258,8 +1262,8 @@ parameters will caus=
e the handshake to fail.=0D
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 Endpoints MUST NOT send this extension in a TLS connection that does not=
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-unsupported_extension alert MUST be sent if this extension is received w=
hen the=0D
-transport is not QUIC.=0D
+unsupported_extension alert (an error of 0x16e) MUST be sent if this ext=
ension=0D
+is received when the transport is not QUIC.=0D
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This is not just in your text, but while you're here, also replace the= text with:
=0D "The connection MUST be closed with an error code of type 0x16e (equivale= nt to a fatal TLS unsupported_extension alert, see Section {{tls-errors}}= ) if the transport is not QUIC."

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Fixes #2371

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  • Update error code to 0x2xx

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
-initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
-instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type
+initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second

Maybe swap the order to "one decoder stream and at most one encoder stream" to make it less likely to be misread as "at most one encoder stream and at most one decoder stream".

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In draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md:

>  HTTP/3 endpoints contain a QPACK encoder and decoder. Each endpoint MUST
-initiate a single encoder stream and decoder stream. Receipt of a second
-instance of either stream type be MUST treated as a connection error of type
+initiate at most one encoder stream and one decoder stream. Receipt of a second

Thanks. FWIW. We discussed in person tying up this change and getting the PR merged soon.

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The error codes defined here may be affected by the outcome of #2551, which would remove the entrire 0x1xx space for resuse by QPACK. I think we can land this PR regardless.

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Fixes #2549.

This was fun, it turns out there were actually 3 pair of instances where the Unicode Character LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE (U+202D) were added. I wonder if this was super meta level protest against the endianess-swap from back in the day...

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2563

Commit Summary

  • Remove Unicode Character 'LEFT-TO-RIGHT OVERRIDE' (U+202D)

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----==_mimepart_5c9c7acaeb028_68503feca44d45c4527543-- From nobody Thu Mar 28 00:45:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACFB12031F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 00:45:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3EXl87pzzNIj for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 00:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from o10.sgmail.github.com (o10.sgmail.github.com [167.89.101.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CD90120170 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 00:45:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; h=from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-archive:list-post:list-unsubscribe; s=s20150108; bh=TIjmhZgrtxmAwMhyCTQ9ft0LcRM=; b=rtKeeDNZP4WJBiRF ngLvbGR22QUwBfZ04otpTfPe++fSHBZ/kI4bUUb+9ODEDAf+4HNxmTHdIPfI+JS/ 1Cb/bCp5WGG57gw3R1i/bjfHZdC2GxTa0jqMilBfu9e8XgsLoaGwH/Id9CdRwXPJ R68cFZPPxP6IQA/TeHoDOjlEyrw= Received: by filter0555p1iad2.sendgrid.net with SMTP id filter0555p1iad2-19469-5C9C7B89-E 2019-03-28 07:45:13.180549918 +0000 UTC m=+10406.404075077 Received: from github-lowworker-dc5ea3e.cp1-iad.github.net (unknown [192.30.252.45]) by ismtpd0009p1iad2.sendgrid.net (SG) with ESMTP id tIbhOtohQLKRLBDYOn_1Ug for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:45:13.133 +0000 (UTC) Received: from github.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by github-lowworker-dc5ea3e.cp1-iad.github.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C28326115A for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 00:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:45:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Be clearer about the purpose of disable_migration (#2389) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9c7b8917afd_18db3fc7ea4d45bc4816b5"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org X-SG-EID: l64QuQ2uJCcEyUykJbxN122A6QRmEpucztpreh3Pak0k76Wcx55iz1QIVRCcYmcLSbIDLD41TZ9wvJ A9DxhFmiaepFzdP0rgSmO89+UD+RkIgBA/siNnEwQn4jf7u5cKefwIk9xpbivGE7cS6ZkPKJgQ3u7P 0lwO4xjBTpsY24c0CNGYE7XmHYFS75j2/UuQQLXGCKW2Ys0MJGDPLW97yTqkW43Oa+Gyst2wtUg7i/ o= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 07:45:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9c7b8917afd_18db3fc7ea4d45bc4816b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That sounds about right, but I draw two conclusions: There are some editorial improvements we might consider in light of this analysis. The pending question about what to do in those scenarios is complex, but the conclusion might just be a better explanation of the sorts of trade-offs that servers work on. As you imply, that might be editorial as well, but I suspect that we'll uncover ways in which conflicting interpretations of working group participants come to light. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2389#issuecomment-477484954 ----==_mimepart_5c9c7b8917afd_18db3fc7ea4d45bc4816b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That sounds about right, but I draw two conclusions:

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Yes, that is what I had in mind as well. We may want to add some text around what a client might expect when it continues sending packets after switching networks to a server that has disable_migration set.

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An endpoint MAY treat the receipt of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit} + +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are will appear -> is available > @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01. An endpoint MAY treat the receipt of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit} + +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further Pick a consistent capitalization (Latency Spin Bit or latency spin bit) and use it consistently > @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01. An endpoint MAY treat the receipt of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit} + +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit utilizes a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The +location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are +defined in {{short-header}}. + +Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In Agree, too. Would use the 2119 OPTIONAL capitalization > @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01. An endpoint MAY treat the receipt of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. +## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit} + +The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit utilizes a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The +location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are +defined in {{short-header}}. + +Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In So: "The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document." > +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is +only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the +initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit +will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are +completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further +discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}. + +The spin bit uses a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The +location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are +defined in {{short-header}}. + +Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In +that case they are only REQUIRED to implement what is defined for the spin bit +when it is disabled. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a There's several layers here that all influence on whether spin is used for a connection. This doesn't fully come out in the current text. First, since the entire spin functionality is OPTIONAL, either a client or a server or both can simply choose to not even implement it. When such an endpoint is communicating, spin will never be used. Second, even if both stacks implement the OPTIONAL spin functionality, the system/stack administrator and/or the application implementor MAY still globally disable the spin functionality for the stack and/or an app. Third, even if spin functionality is globally enabled, an app implementor MAY still disable it for some of the connections. (Or enable it for some.) Fourth, if at this point spin is enabled for a given connection, we had consensus that the QUIC stack MUST internally and probabilistically disable spin with some likelihood (I remember 1/8th?) to guarantee some "cover traffic". > + +The spin bit uses a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The +location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are +defined in {{short-header}}. + +Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In +that case they are only REQUIRED to implement what is defined for the spin bit +when it is disabled. + +Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a +connection. Implementations SHOULD allow administrators of clients and servers +to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when +the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations SHOULD disable +the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. However, connections +could be configured to explicitly enable spinning, for example in the case of +explicit customer support and debugging. I'm not sure we had consensus for that, because if an app (erroneously) enables spin for all connections using this API, there would be no cover traffic, and we required there to always be some non-spin traffic. > @@ -3948,8 +3993,33 @@ Fixed Bit: Spin Bit (S): -: The sixth bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit, set as described in - {{!SPIN=I-D.ietf-quic-spin-exp}}. +: The third most significant bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit. + +: When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, Agreed > -: The sixth bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit, set as described in - {{!SPIN=I-D.ietf-quic-spin-exp}}. +: The third most significant bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit. + +: When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value, +and MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they +set the spin bit to a random value either chosen independently for each packet, +or chosen independently for each path and kept constant for that path. + +: If the spin bit is enabled for the connection, the endpoint maintains a spin +value and sets the spin bit in the short header to the currently stored +value when a packet with a short header is sent out. The spin value is +initialized to 0 in the endpoint at connection start. Each endpoint also +remembers the highest packet number seen from its peer on the connection. + +: When a server receives a packet from a client, if that packet has a short Simply say "when a server receives a short-header packet"? > +and MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they +set the spin bit to a random value either chosen independently for each packet, +or chosen independently for each path and kept constant for that path. + +: If the spin bit is enabled for the connection, the endpoint maintains a spin +value and sets the spin bit in the short header to the currently stored +value when a packet with a short header is sent out. The spin value is +initialized to 0 in the endpoint at connection start. Each endpoint also +remembers the highest packet number seen from its peer on the connection. + +: When a server receives a packet from a client, if that packet has a short +header and if it increments the highest packet number seen by the server from +the client, the server sets the spin value to the value observed in the spin bit +in the received packet. + +: When a client receives a packet from a server, if the packet has a short Ditto -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@larseggert requested changes on this pull request.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01.  An endpoint MAY treat the receipt
 of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error
 of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit}
+
+The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points
+on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are

will appear -> is available

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01.  An endpoint MAY treat the receipt
 of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error
 of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit}
+
+The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points
+on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further

Pick a consistent capitalization (Latency Spin Bit or latency spin bit) and use it consistently

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01.  An endpoint MAY treat the receipt
 of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error
 of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit}
+
+The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points
+on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit utilizes a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The
+location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are
+defined in {{short-header}}.
+
+Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In

Agree, too. Would use the 2119 OPTIONAL capitalization

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2818,6 +2825,44 @@ encoded as a single byte with the value 0x01.  An endpoint MAY treat the receipt
 of a frame type that uses a longer encoding than necessary as a connection error
 of type PROTOCOL_VIOLATION.
 
+## Latency Spin Bit {#spin-bit}
+
+The latency spin bit enables passive latency monitoring from observation points
+on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit utilizes a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The
+location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are
+defined in {{short-header}}.
+
+Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In

So: "The spin bit is an OPTIONAL feature of QUIC. A QUIC stack that chooses to support the spin bit MUST implement it as specified in this document."

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +on the network path throughout the duration of a connection. The spin bit is
+only present in the short packet header, since it is possible to measure the
+initial RTT of a connection by observing the handshake. Therefore, the spin bit
+will appear after version negotiation and connection establishment are
+completed. On-path measurement and use of the Latency Spin Bit is further
+discussed in {{QUIC-MANAGEABILITY}}.
+
+The spin bit uses a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The
+location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are
+defined in {{short-header}}.
+
+Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In
+that case they are only REQUIRED to implement what is defined for the spin bit
+when it is disabled.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a

There's several layers here that all influence on whether spin is used for a connection. This doesn't fully come out in the current text.

First, since the entire spin functionality is OPTIONAL, either a client or a server or both can simply choose to not even implement it. When such an endpoint is communicating, spin will never be used.

Second, even if both stacks implement the OPTIONAL spin functionality, the system/stack administrator and/or the application implementor MAY still globally disable the spin functionality for the stack and/or an app.

Third, even if spin functionality is globally enabled, an app implementor MAY still disable it for some of the connections. (Or enable it for some.)

Fourth, if at this point spin is enabled for a given connection, we had consensus that the QUIC stack MUST internally and probabilistically disable spin with some likelihood (I remember 1/8th?) to guarantee some "cover traffic".

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +
+The spin bit uses a single bit in the first byte of the short header. The
+location of the bit and procedures for how to set it by clients and servers are
+defined in {{short-header}}.
+
+Implementations MAY select to not implement the full spin bit functionality. In
+that case they are only REQUIRED to implement what is defined for the spin bit
+when it is disabled.
+
+Each endpoint unilaterally decides if the spin bit is enabled or disabled for a
+connection. Implementations SHOULD allow administrators of clients and servers
+to disable the spin bit either globally or on a per-connection basis. Even when
+the spin bit is not disabled by the administrator implementations SHOULD disable
+the spin bit on a randomly chosen fraction of connections. However, connections
+could be configured to explicitly enable spinning, for example in the case of
+explicit customer support and debugging.

I'm not sure we had consensus for that, because if an app (erroneously) enables spin for all connections using this API, there would be no cover traffic, and we required there to always be some non-spin traffic.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3948,8 +3993,33 @@ Fixed Bit:
 
 Spin Bit (S):
 
-: The sixth bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit, set as described in
-  {{!SPIN=I-D.ietf-quic-spin-exp}}.
+: The third most significant bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit.
+
+: When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value,

Agreed

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> -: The sixth bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit, set as described in
-  {{!SPIN=I-D.ietf-quic-spin-exp}}.
+: The third most significant bit (0x20) of byte 0 is the Latency Spin Bit.
+
+: When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints MAY set the spin bit to any value,
+and MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they
+set the spin bit to a random value either chosen independently for each packet,
+or chosen independently for each path and kept constant for that path.
+
+: If the spin bit is enabled for the connection, the endpoint maintains a spin
+value and sets the spin bit in the short header to the currently stored
+value when a packet with a short header is sent out. The spin value is
+initialized to 0 in the endpoint at connection start.  Each endpoint also
+remembers the highest packet number seen from its peer on the connection.
+
+: When a server receives a packet from a client, if that packet has a short

Simply say "when a server receives a short-header packet"?

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> +and MUST accept any incoming value. It is RECOMMENDED that they
+set the spin bit to a random value either chosen independently for each packet,
+or chosen independently for each path and kept constant for that path.
+
+: If the spin bit is enabled for the connection, the endpoint maintains a spin
+value and sets the spin bit in the short header to the currently stored
+value when a packet with a short header is sent out. The spin value is
+initialized to 0 in the endpoint at connection start.  Each endpoint also
+remembers the highest packet number seen from its peer on the connection.
+
+: When a server receives a packet from a client, if that packet has a short
+header and if it increments the highest packet number seen by the server from
+the client, the server sets the spin value to the value observed in the spin bit
+in the received packet.
+
+: When a client receives a packet from a server, if the packet has a short

Ditto

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#2364 got messed up with my latest update.
Suggesting closing that PR and discussing it here instead.

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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2564

Commit Summary

  • Initial text proposal for adding spin bit to transport specification.
  • Merge pull request #1 from gloinul/spinbit
  • Updated text on spinbit
  • reviewed version
  • Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
  • Updated formatting
  • Initial text proposal for adding spin bit to transport specification.
  • Updated text on spinbit
  • reviewed version
  • Updated formatting
  • Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/ihlar/base-drafts
  • Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • Update draft-ietf-quic-transport.md
  • Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/ihlar/base-drafts
  • Restructuring of spin bit text

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I edited the title to indicate 2 or 3 instead of 1 or 2, now that #2557 has landed.

Yes, TLPs in TCP do not change RTO. One of the reasons TLP was added = in the way it was is that it doesn't really interact with RTO at all, whi= ch made it convenient.

My understanding is that TCP uses 200ms because it's 2x the expected d= elayed ACK timer? If so, given we're including max_ack_delay in the PTO = value, shouldn't that be sufficient(assuming we keep a 2x or larger multi= plier on PTO)?

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The TCP minRTO is 1 sec per RFC 6298, but Linux uses 200 ms if I'm not= mistaken. I could be wrong, but don't think it was based on the delayed = ack timer, since the delayed ack timer value is typically 200ms. (I'll co= nfirm this.)

My high order point is that we probably do not want QUIC to declare pe= rsistent congestion (and collapse cwnd) sooner than TCP currently does in= the network. Using only the PTO values might cause us to do that, and it= might cause unnecessary throughput degradation.

IMO we don't lose anything by declaring persistent congestion similar = to TCP. PTOs still fire the way they always do, and recovery continues th= e way it always does. Other machinery (such as when to call a connection = or path dead for instance) can continue to use PTOs, but we just declare = persistent congestion based on what we know TCP behavior to be in the wil= d.

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This doesn't seem to have any changes related to the reviews on #2564?

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  • 04ef140 Clarification on spin bit as OPTIONAL feature

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This doesn't seem to have any changes related to the reviews on #2564?

There are several changes, removed text on allowing administrators to ex= plicitly enable spinning on particular connections. Updated structure and c= learer text compared to #2364.

I now also added text clarifying that it is OPTIONAL to implement spin b= it.

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In both SetLossDetectionTimer() and OnLossDetectionTimeout(), the loss_time based timer setup and loss detection happens before the crypto loss recovery logics. That seems at the cross road with the idea that crypto packets having higher priority in loss recovery. In fact in OnLossDetectionTimerou(), if loss_time is present and we go into DetectLostPackets(), then we will only decect loss of one packet number space between Initial and Handshake. Plus the loss_time used to set the timer is the earliest among all possible values, which means even if only one of Initial and Handshake space has inflight packets, we may still not retransmit all the inflight packets when this timer fires. So this current code really doesn't follow the idea that when crypto is inflight and loss timer fires, all inflight crypto needs to be retransmitted.

If we change the code so that crypto is handled the first, we can also reduce the states need to be maintained and simplify some of the functions. Current draft 3 loss_times, one per packet number space. By always handling crypto first, we will need such loss_time for AppData space only, and no need to have the helper function to GetEarliestLossTime().

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In watching the streams of the IETF QUIC sessions there's a lot of discussion around "epoch", but this term is not defined in any of the quic draft documents, and is only mentioned (as "recovery epoch" and "congestion epoch") in the sample code in the -recovery appendices.

It is defined and discussed in the DTLS RFC, however.

I'm not sure if mention of "epoch" should be purged or expanded, but it struck me as unclear currently.

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Hopefully there is no mention of epoch in TLS or transport. Though we us= e the concept in discussion as a shorthand and to help reason through the c= omplicated key update cases we were discussing, taking the meaning from DTL= S, QUIC currently doesn't have that concept. And it probably won't have to = grow that concept either.

Should this issue be used to track the lack of definition of those terms= in the recovery draft?

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Sounds good to me.

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is only mentioned (as "recovery epoch" and "congestion epoch") in the = sample code in the -recovery appendices.

It is defined and discussed in the DTLS RFC, however.

Doesn't "epoch" used in the sample code in -recovery have different me= aning than that used in DTLS? IIUC, the recovery draft is talking about t= he distinction of each loss event by using the term.

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Closed #2547.

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Yeah, I agree. This only covers a subset of #2471, so closing in favour of that.

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As per discussion in #2547, #2471 already covers this, so I'll just wait to see what comes out of that.

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@janaiyengar approved this pull request.

Small fix, but I'll file a new editorial issue with martin's restructure comment, and let's merge this.

In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

> @@ -330,6 +330,31 @@ min_rtt is the minimum RTT measured over the connection, prior to adjusting by
 ack delay.  Ignoring ack delay for min RTT prevents intentional or unintentional
 underestimation of min RTT, which in turn prevents underestimating smoothed RTT.
 
+A sender calculates both smoothed RTT (SRTT) and RTT variance (RTTVAR) similar
+to those specified in {{?RFC6298}}, see {{on-ack-received}}.
+
+On every newly acknowledged ack-eliciting largest acked:
+~~~
+latest_rtt = ack_time - send_time_of_largest_acked
+~~~
+
+First RTT sample:
+~~~
+min_rtt = latest_rtt
+smoothed_rtt = latest_rtt

For the first sample, using ack_delay will reduce the smoothed_rtt to below min_rtt. I think adding a sentence up in the para above might make sense. How about "Note that smoothed_rtt computation on the first RTT sample does not use ack_delay, because doing so will lead to a smoothed_rtt that is smaller than the min_rtt."

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From #2506, @martinthomson had a suggestion for restructuring the RTT estimation section.

The baseline concepts here are:

- the observed RTT (latest_rtt in the code), which includes any processing delays on the receiver end

- minimum RTT, which is set to the minimum observed RTT for the path. this doesn't include any processing delays on the receiver end, which might inflate the value a little, but we assume that receivers will immediately acknowledge a packet at some point (usually this is a good idea for a new path, and handshaking more or less depends on that)

- ack delay, which captures the processing time and any forced delays on the receiver. This is limited to the maximum value the receiver advertises. This value is self-reported, so any error needs to result in using less network capacity, not more, or it could be used to increase network load inappropriately. The goal here is to have an RTT estimate that is larger. Thus, the design is such that if ACK delay is under-reported, or the maximum is set lower than the reality, this will result in an inflated RTT estimate. If this is over-reported, the maximum will cap the value and again cause the RTT estimate to be driven up also.

- The final RTT calculation. This is calculated based on the observed RTT and the adjusted ack delay. The value is smoothed so that some history is retained.

This structure matches the code, but I think that changes aren't really necessary.

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----==_mimepart_5c9fcc63384ae_23c73fa84d4d45c412616de-- From nobody Sat Mar 30 13:41:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB19120286 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4kTpvw7ObHg for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 13:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-1.smtp.github.com (out-1.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9111120277 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 13:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 13:40:58 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553978458; bh=ZHJFrb+H7MDNRo8rWkZQRQZrsuoXyXg8U1GZBtsqfX8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=jRgpvRCPdm7oBmtzXeFUdTujMMxj7R+PlO76cIfznznn9LveoJ01lJzTNdcu86LJN 2vSBRU1fqqiUrRZFnfcgcsGTJZMk8pO+GWzxjxLBk/7OUstmiatVFScuG3gMiTIaqS ZY3QUUZG31cky8iWY5dGMPoPAeURZF0nGmmoAkgY= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9fd45ac37b9_5ef53fab22cd45bc8219d4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 20:41:03 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9fd45ac37b9_5ef53fab22cd45bc8219d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The RTT estimator currently does not use RTT samples if the largest_acked is not ack-eliciting. This can lead to the endpoint missing RTT samples unnecessarily, in two ways. First, checking only for the largest_acked to be ack-eliciting means that we ignore other newly acked packets that were ack-eliciting. The peer is expected to send an ack within max_ack_delay if it has received any ack-eliciting packets, not just the largest acked one. This is probematic if the connection has a pattern that results in more non-ack-eliciting packets being the largest_acked. I propose that we change the condition for a valid RTT sample to be if _any_ newly acked is ack-eliciting (in addition to the ACK frame carrying a new largest_acked). Second, non-ack-eliciting packets are a perfectly fine source of RTT samples, with the caveat that ack_delay might be larger than max_ack_delay; a receiver that has only received non-ack-eliciting packets might delay acknowledging these packets much longer than otherwise. I propose that we don't drop all RTT samples associated with non-ack-eliciting packets, but only those with unusable ack_delay. Basically, I propose that we use the RTT sample if ack_delay < max_ack_delay. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568 ----==_mimepart_5c9fd45ac37b9_5ef53fab22cd45bc8219d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The RTT estimator currently does not use RTT samples if the largest_acked is not ack-eliciting. This can lead to the endpoint missing RTT samples unnecessarily, in two ways.

First, checking only for the largest_acked to be ack-eliciting means that we ignore other newly acked packets that were ack-eliciting. The peer is expected to send an ack within max_ack_delay if it has received any ack-eliciting packets, not just the largest acked one. This is probematic if the connection has a pattern that results in more non-ack-eliciting packets being the largest_acked. I propose that we change the condition for a valid RTT sample to be if any newly acked is ack-eliciting (in addition to the ACK frame carrying a new largest_acked).

Second, non-ack-eliciting packets are a perfectly fine source of RTT samples, with the caveat that ack_delay might be larger than max_ack_delay; a receiver that has only received non-ack-eliciting packets might delay acknowledging these packets much longer than otherwise. I propose that we don't drop all RTT samples associated with non-ack-eliciting packets, but only those with unusable ack_delay. Basically, I propose that we use the RTT sample if ack_delay < max_ack_delay.

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----==_mimepart_5c9fd45ac37b9_5ef53fab22cd45bc8219d4-- From nobody Sat Mar 30 14:21:47 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF62120288 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:21:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7U35H0lEt4KM for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-6.smtp.github.com (out-6.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.197]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AC3F12027B for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:21:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553980903; bh=3lJlR2Q77AIMEsSaYqz/gh3EGUUBLRp8NJ+LyH+O6MU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=hh21HFK3NAV5AqIG1P7rjM6oQrPnkjrTOcHX2Ufyf89OL2C40os22FkmERKLFwyms CjgL2mOsv/6H6GUqYEmSWPCk4+OC1hzfqYdH3AIKdvdJQeVBmVxQudbDldyTwPIokO n8Ix27xsLVQTPfqUo3t4LEFNbD9+zA/ym7Fszn5U= From: Jana Iyengar Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] RTT sample should be taken only once for each largest_acked (#2569) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9fdde710a5f_20263f94906d45c05624e1"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: janaiyengar X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 21:21:46 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9fdde710a5f_20263f94906d45c05624e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The pseudo code in [Section A.6](https://quicwg.org/base-drafts/draft-ietf-quic-recovery.html#on-ack-received) ends up taking an RTT sample on every ack, which can result in multiple RTT samples per largest_acked. The code should check to see if the largest_acked is newly acked. The text does say that an RTT sample MUST NOT be taken on a packet that is not newly_acked, but pseudo code needs to match. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2569 ----==_mimepart_5c9fdde710a5f_20263f94906d45c05624e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The pseudo code in Section A.6 ends up taking an RTT sample on every ack, which can result in multiple RTT samples per largest_acked. The code should check to see if the largest_acked is newly acked.

The text does say that an RTT sample MUST NOT be taken on a packet that is not newly_acked, but pseudo code needs to match.

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RTT computation is only done on the largest acked packet. This should be articulated clearly.

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The pseudo-code reduces bytes_in_flight on loss and on acked, but a packet might be acked after marked as lost (it might still be in the sent_map). Pseudo code fix needed.

Thanks, @kazuho, for this catch.

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To be fair, the comment in the pseudo code does say only to update the= rtt if it's newly acked:

  // If the largest acknowledged is newly acked and
  // ack-eliciting, update the RTT.
  if (sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked] &&
      sent_packets[pn_space][ack.largest_acked].ack_eliciting):

Personally, I'd solve this by always setting sent_packets[pn_spa= ce][#] =3D null once it has been acknowledged. Then the pseudo cod= e above would be correct.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c9ff17c2a3d9_54013f81ed4d45b4160241-- From nobody Sat Mar 30 15:47:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04073120319 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:47:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.383 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.383 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24=1.618, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sEqjw9o7RcdF for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E41F120310 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:47:35 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553986055; bh=SZ8q83AO9NKqzEWUEzJZodZZ0Nk8HbPd6k6XtjiBnyw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=UV3yu/wXBfIajyO64a+1IWqaobHG9LDgM08UoOdq99k0Q/AcjYMSkaNP6z9MeoTOR /U2IBegJbyKTa3KysctH6NGnI1R1lQxbSZzgQfegjSvF5LMd0Ww3BiRaTekKpmZH2P /6Gya6u14VjLWRH1WoOZwJ8q7y19UPcTtc85lko8= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9ff207820de_5ab33f91118d45b41064268"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 22:47:38 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9ff207820de_5ab33f91118d45b41064268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why only accept the RTT measurement if ack_delay is less than (or equal I assume) max_ack_delay? So the peer held on to the packet a little longer than normal? What's the big deal? If they report to you exactly how long they held on to it, you should still get an accurate RTT measurement, right? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568#issuecomment-478296059 ----==_mimepart_5c9ff207820de_5ab33f91118d45b41064268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Why only accept the RTT measurement if ack_delay is less than (or equa= l I assume) max_ack_delay? So the peer held on to the packet a little lon= ger than normal? What's the big deal? If they report to you exactly how l= ong they held on to it, you should still get an accurate RTT measurement,= right?

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= ----==_mimepart_5c9ff207820de_5ab33f91118d45b41064268-- From nobody Sat Mar 30 16:22:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4F51202C1 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:22:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AE7_FPjRzuA5 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-2.smtp.github.com (out-2.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0DD01202B6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:22:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553988127; bh=/rgfCI1K0JOoVHobkVAwwpdM/3Dynqn5639WYroqMQU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=HvarCM/2xo3C3U2x/f+0aNOO11Uaz+cgis0Bxx+KmQZLkc9X8Wr3Qs2NtfxUb+VS8 NJ30ReWsoGIABG1lUJxXv+Cp7nZvn9cv5s45IfhHWJoN6fQbs19PrPBVwm0DyblMKE MDV0zWCxx79FBkDMDWYY5Iyvn7CHju8nALWOo/lI= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] bytes_in_flight might be reduced twice for lost packets (#2571) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5c9ffa1f15034_23f43fa84d4d45c414448b2"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 23:22:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5c9ffa1f15034_23f43fa84d4d45c414448b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We call remove() when a packet is acked or lost. We can be more specific about what remove() does, but my intent was that removed the packet from the sent_packets data structure, so it could only be acked or lost, not both. Admittedly, this does not allow detection of spurious losses, but I thought we decided that was out of scope for the pseudocode? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2571#issuecomment-478297938 ----==_mimepart_5c9ffa1f15034_23f43fa84d4d45c414448b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We call remove() when a packet is acked or lost. We can be more speci= fic about what remove() does, but my intent was that removed the packet f= rom the sent_packets data structure, so it could only be acked or lost, n= ot both.

Admittedly, this does not allow detection of spurious losses, but I th= ought we decided that was out of scope for the pseudocode?

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@janaiyengar you make some good points, but the sender = needs to know which packet to use to create an RTT sample. The obvious a= nswer is the largest ack-eliciting packet number. I can think of some ca= ses involving ACK loss and/or reordering that would be slightly incorrect= , but I can't think of any cases that would be disastrous. However, it s= eems important that ack_delay is from the largest_acked ack-eliciting pac= ket in that case, otherwise the RTT sample will be incorrect. I'm not fe= eling great about the fact we're not explicitly specifying the largest ac= k eliciting packet an instead letting the sender figure it out, but besid= es that this seems ok. I will note that we could also advise not includi= ng non-ack-eliciting packets as the largest acked and only ACK them when = they're less than an ack-eliciting packet. I wonder if that might be si= mpler, given this is somewhat of an edge case?

@nibanks The reason for limiting ack_delay to max_ack_delay= is to incentivize correct reporting of max_ack_delay. Otherwise, one co= uld report a max_ack_delay of 0ms and consistently report a larger ack_de= lay value, allowing the receiver to decrease the sender's SRTT. I'm not = sure how large a problem this is in practice, but it's nice if the mechan= isms incentivize accurate reporting.

The algorithms should devolve into something very similar to TCP if ma= x_ack_delay is 0ms, so the worst case doesn't seem that bad.

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= ----==_mimepart_5c9ffe9e23ac2_20383f94906d45c0966317-- From nobody Sat Mar 30 16:52:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C68812006F for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:52:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e6g64ECFHmjW for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A871F120044 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 16:52:14 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1553989934; bh=FmuuttCmxutsmPjftZ4AtNVajU3yYK5DG4u01or5JjU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=MN4YC4G8ahlV1/J8vpMIOBykDs/3bZ1iHu57o70yplrpT2LhS2SeeexjL9tKnj01F CJxQO4fHEJqef1ZhcjkfyAj4EcWCbZvfT0XSmI9eEnmC2Ix8Jq8AOmofL84+68HtaT KV2Y2wcLPVvjCBkXeabPXF7vlnkRQyZ7Z9hZakB4= From: Nick Banks Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Reduce restrictions on valid RTT samples (#2568) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca0012e3fe86_7ad73fc4d80d45bc16316d9"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: nibanks X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 23:52:18 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca0012e3fe86_7ad73fc4d80d45bc16316d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It just seems like a bad idea to always ignore RTT measurements if ack_delay is larger than max_ack_delay. For instance, what about one of the following scenarios: 1. Sheer CPU load on the peer prevents it from ACK'ing a packet within max_ack_delay. 2. An implementation that literally sets a max_ack_delay timer on receipt of a packet, then when the timer fires, queues a send packet work item. When that work item is processed, the ack_delay is calculated and it ends up being just over max_ack_delay. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2568#issuecomment-478299319 ----==_mimepart_5ca0012e3fe86_7ad73fc4d80d45bc16316d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It just seems like a bad idea to always ignore RTT measurements if ack= _delay is larger than max_ack_delay. For instance, what about one of the = following scenarios:

  1. Sheer CPU load on the peer prevents it from ACK'ing a packet within m= ax_ack_delay.
  2. An implementation that literally sets a max_ack_delay timer on receip= t of a packet, then when the timer fires, queues a send packet work item.= When that work item is processed, the ack_delay is calculated and it end= s up being just over max_ack_delay.

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----==_mimepart_5ca01ab510701_1bbc3fe87e2d45b41322e8-- From nobody Sun Mar 31 00:01:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403EE120174 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:01:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L9PRr0lFCVXj for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-3.smtp.github.com (out-3.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 719AA120171 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:01:27 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554015687; bh=XNjmp+WKigVWx2YukzG+IkCs11n5+BLRfHfZJ3flZR0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=M4IfLP5+KWiMGI9w/KwT7QwRTmTjV0oLng8IJQN93fbOVfR7LUagH4aAm6alyRTPJ ujmyjaA8djswHNxYTcBLOtiPZSHDJMXfpdUjCSHnsJ79090MgBLwSMLroTR3joz3MY /6ynH94UQaKCuP5IBWhjQeP+hpuHAJnoRqJ4BmRA= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Include handshake anti-deadlock logic in pseudocode (#2281) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca065c77441_15a03faee72d45bc858b4"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 07:01:30 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca065c77441_15a03faee72d45bc858b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinthomson requested changes on this pull request. > // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() crypto_count++ + else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys): + if (handshake keys available) ```suggestion if (handshake keys available): ``` Unfortunately, this is still incorrect. As we discussed on https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2519#issuecomment-472671420 there is a requirement to pad any time the client needs to send an Initial packet (it's a little more complicated in practice, but this is what the resolution boils down to). > // Retransmit crypto data if no packets were lost // and there are still crypto packets in flight. - else if (crypto packets are in flight): + if (crypto packets are in flight): // Crypto retransmission timeout. RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() I assume that RetransmitUnackedCryptoData() is going to catch any need for padding... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2281#pullrequestreview-220849672 ----==_mimepart_5ca065c77441_15a03faee72d45bc858b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

@martinthomson requested changes on this pull request.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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Unfortunately, this is still incorrect. As we discussed on draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (handshake keys available)

If the availability of Handshake keys isn't a strong enough condition for that, what should be used instead? I'd be inclined to just fall back on SendOnePacket and let the nontrivial padding logic be implied by the text elsewhere, but that's where we started for this fragment.

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In draft-ietf-quic-recovery.md:

>      // Crypto retransmission timeout.
     RetransmitUnackedCryptoData()
     crypto_count++
+  else if (endpoint is client without 1-RTT keys):
+    if (handshake keys available)

If you need to send an Initial packet, pad.

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To clarify, you're speaking of the pseudocode?

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@nibanks That's what remove() is supposed to do, which is called when a packet is acked or lost.

As with #2571, this may be a matter of more clearly defining what remove() does.

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----==_mimepart_5ca0a19c80859_33d53ff4c2ed45bc670d8-- From nobody Sun Mar 31 10:59:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A1B1201AC for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 10:59:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bjiAM-1UTxJ3 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 10:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-7.smtp.github.com (out-7.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 530FE12001B for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 10:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 10:59:43 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554055183; bh=ZzwNOgn9+OItibRkWITRP1RDt8l39nIewTry6ibTdeI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=qfxBdxWRfkWpcy+m9oEXV2ucBeyAmKqfg8csFRa5mbS8H8+axI5c9nMjoD1Cu1ZD9 X3q0DD73ZygoFsZXXNupIO6Cbh8MnF//klTOq7xfYg7NAnrvC80cl2vc0dxUjhxjcF UyEPFtoVIbbp/zlckWZSJ8MO4e6l8V745Kjob5zM= From: David Schinazi Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Usage of "epoch" term in recovery draft (example code in appendixes) (#2566) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca1000fb6480_4a143fecffcd45c0199091"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: DavidSchinazi X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 17:59:47 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca1000fb6480_4a143fecffcd45c0199091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the "epoch" in question here is the one in my slides on discarding old 1-RTT keys after a key update, then I indeed meant it in the DTLS sense, and I apologize for the confusion. The TLS 1.3 spec refers to this concept as a "generation", so perhaps I should have used that instead here. But I agree with Martin that this concept might not necessarily need to be named in the spec if we can clarify the key update edge cases without it. If the "epoch" in question is the one in recovery, then this is specific to recovery concepts that do not involve (D)TLS. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2566#issuecomment-478363700 ----==_mimepart_5ca1000fb6480_4a143fecffcd45c0199091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If the "epoch" in question here is the one in my slides on discarding = old 1-RTT keys after a key update, then I indeed meant it in the DTLS sen= se, and I apologize for the confusion. The TLS 1.3 spec refers to this co= ncept as a "generation", so perhaps I should have used that instead here.= But I agree with Martin that this concept might not necessarily need to = be named in the spec if we can clarify the key update edge cases without = it.

If the "epoch" in question is the one in recovery, then this is specif= ic to recovery concepts that do not involve (D)TLS.

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= ----==_mimepart_5ca1000fb6480_4a143fecffcd45c0199091-- From nobody Sun Mar 31 11:48:54 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857AD1200EF for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:48:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mTb6p-p7rFKc for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-10.smtp.github.com (out-10.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E222120021 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:48:49 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554058129; bh=Zx/PxEpJ9HNo6CBUXDiT9spJNZHoXZ3r+uUpTtG+Pnw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=JenxcnStfXeTuger8nY/RR60qFesBJPN9gyIUte2xzBFlcmzdeTx+2xoEIGUNlyhD wAWg3HGnHERcekozW53g+/IFOqygBYe2x8wt/xYDfmOrTEUk0OPXwfz4H01HPuxUdo z/x4qhErlNFwaDP/ogUNTXMcE0MfWlXuSoCIRdzo= From: ianswett Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] ClientFinished is HoL blocking, but has no normative text (#2572) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca10b9168bda_39853ff962ad45bc139558"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: ianswett X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 18:48:52 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca10b9168bda_39853ff962ad45bc139558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not saying I want the CFIN to be HoL blocking, but previous discussions have established it is. I don't think the current TLS text is sufficiently clear(and normative) about that. Section 4.1.1 has: " Important: Until the handshake is reported as complete, the connection and key exchange are not properly authenticated at the server. Even though 1-RTT keys are available to a server after receiving the first handshake messages from a client, the server cannot consider the client to be authenticated until it receives and validates the client's Finished message. The requirement for the server to wait for the client Finished message creates a dependency on that message being delivered. A client can avoid the potential for head-of-line blocking that this implies by sending a copy of the CRYPTO frame that carries the Finished message in multiple packets. This enables immediate server processing for those packets." https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-tls-19#section-4.1.1 -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/2572 ----==_mimepart_5ca10b9168bda_39853ff962ad45bc139558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm not saying I want the CFIN to be HoL blocking, but previous discussions have established it is. I don't think the current TLS text is sufficiently clear(and normative) about that.

Section 4.1.1 has:
" Important: Until the handshake is reported as complete, the
connection and key exchange are not properly authenticated at the
server. Even though 1-RTT keys are available to a server after
receiving the first handshake messages from a client, the server
cannot consider the client to be authenticated until it receives
and validates the client's Finished message.

  The requirement for the server to wait for the client Finished
  message creates a dependency on that message being delivered.  A
  client can avoid the potential for head-of-line blocking that this
  implies by sending a copy of the CRYPTO frame that carries the
  Finished message in multiple packets.  This enables immediate
  server processing for those packets."

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-quic-tls-19#section-4.1.1

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I agree, perhaps this section needs to say something along the lines of: The server MUST not process received 1-RTT packets before it has validated the Client Finished, in particular it MUST NOT send acknowledgments for 1-RTT packets until before then.

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This is an attempt to solve the QUIC version ossification that was discussed in Prague.

Servers can announce a list of version aliases in the transport parameters. A version alias can be any valid QUIC version number, and the server guarantees to accept this version number as an alias for the currently used version. Each version alias comes with a lifetime for which it is valid, as well as a salt for the encryption of the Initial.
On subsequent connections, clients can use a version alias to establish a connection to the same server.

If widely deployed, middleboxes will get used to version numbers from the whole version number space being used for QUIC connections. Since they are unaware of the Initial salt being used for alias versions, they can't even decrypt the Initial packet.

In the current form, this PR lacks some text about the privacy implications of this proposal. A version alias is (yet another) cookie, so it should have the same properties as a token, i.e. a client shouldn't use the same version alias more than once, in order to avoid being identifiable to on-path observers.

You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573

Commit Summary

  • draft some text about the version_aliases transport parameter
  • add an initial secret to the version alias
  • make the version alias lifetime a varint

File Changes

Patch Links:

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----==_mimepart_5ca1727a4d08a_7f783f8ed5cd45bc51649-- From nobody Sun Mar 31 19:27:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4187120004 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 19:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E4zHBk6nRbT8 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 19:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-5.smtp.github.com (out-5.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8526D120044 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 19:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 19:27:07 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554085627; bh=i9wCQgZJM+ySQzHYk8yUI3rJZyh4izV4zqzlqR1qTYs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=WjmL4xzdzRzU1y7cr1y3Xh/HlHK0yyPl00itICrdXzcPJouohUe6KlOON9qtMsOp0 kESi3SmZn6vgbhXrUmXa6EzBugsiSZXi6HaOw4a2xUaP1E+tME/I8v719higR9WJk5 uLxlXcNtqlGt7oPz1DpsoCF9gtqq1eBghxvhm97Q= From: martinduke Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca176fb39349_5a2f3feaa30d45bc188718"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinduke X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 02:27:11 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca176fb39349_5a2f3feaa30d45bc188718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit martinduke approved this pull request. This is a great technical solution, far better than one I hoped to achieve when I launched the issue. I strongly believe we should move forward with this and hope that enough major players will support it to make it viable. There is a bit of an unfortunate corner case: a v1-only server might pick an alias that matches v2 or some experimental version in the internet. A client that asks for the non-alias version to that server will send an Initial that the server can't decrypt, which will result in connection failure rather than Version Negotiation. I think we should proceed even if we can't mitigate this. > @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d): ~~~ {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"} +version_aliases (0x000e): + +: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the + currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server. + Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid + for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry. + +~~~ + struct { + uint32 VersionNumber; + varint Lifetime; I think we should put some sort of limit on the Lifetime. A server accidentally configured to send out very long lifetimes may create long-term problems for itself. Far better for a client to reject it as invalid! I suggest something on the order of days -- certainly no more than 10^6 seconds. > @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at \. - +## Version Aliases + +In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft, +servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for +the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved +version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently +change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime, +which indicates how long the server will accept this version alias. It also +contains an initial salt, which is used instead of the initial salt as defined We should think hard about using a special salt vs. the v1 salt. Marten has, almost incidentally, engineered a weak form of SNI encryption: if you _really_ want to decode the initial, you can connect to the server yourself and likely get the salt. But a typical firewall won't be able to read the SNI anymore. This is a victory for the end-to-end principle, but perhaps a Pyrrhic one if firewalls just give up and drop QUIC. I don't have a particularly strong opinion on how to proceed, but want the WG to make this decision deliberately. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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@martinduke approved this pull request.

This is a great technical solution, far better than one I hoped to achieve when I launched the issue. I strongly believe we should move forward with this and hope that enough major players will support it to make it viable.

There is a bit of an unfortunate corner case: a v1-only server might pick an alias that matches v2 or some experimental version in the internet. A client that asks for the non-alias version to that server will send an Initial that the server can't decrypt, which will result in connection failure rather than Version Negotiation. I think we should proceed even if we can't mitigate this.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+
+~~~
+   struct {
+     uint32 VersionNumber;
+     varint Lifetime;

I think we should put some sort of limit on the Lifetime. A server accidentally configured to send out very long lifetimes may create long-term problems for itself. Far better for a client to reject it as invalid! I suggest something on the order of days -- certainly no more than 10^6 seconds.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are
 using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at
 \<https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/wiki/QUIC-Versions\>.
 
-
+## Version Aliases
+
+In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft,
+servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for
+the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved
+version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently
+change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime,
+which indicates how long the server will accept this version alias. It also
+contains an initial salt, which is used instead of the initial salt as defined

We should think hard about using a special salt vs. the v1 salt. Marten has, almost incidentally, engineered a weak form of SNI encryption: if you really want to decode the initial, you can connect to the server yourself and likely get the salt. But a typical firewall won't be able to read the SNI anymore. This is a victory for the end-to-end principle, but perhaps a Pyrrhic one if firewalls just give up and drop QUIC. I don't have a particularly strong opinion on how to proceed, but want the WG to make this decision deliberately.

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----==_mimepart_5ca176fb39349_5a2f3feaa30d45bc188718-- From nobody Sun Mar 31 21:42:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C108E12004A for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 21:42:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.404, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vYzCtxXRYQtI for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 21:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-4.smtp.github.com (out-4.smtp.github.com [192.30.252.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47BD0120049 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 21:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 21:42:46 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554093766; bh=93Ei6lQSw/uyOMNFy4vGKofHXM5PQKD0lLI/k7OqVsc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:List-ID: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:From; b=ZNTvH5G2cJM7LCW2X2x266FIlzht/2dyLmsL8Z0Yc9ShLusjNTJoElT/6ITAs5JLW 7ApcJAyOCIog6AwfVxZcfvN4LAoLjwtxCgV71jpXTOdoXbxfarvJy6cuMXVQF0VsSh Hu95B+R3wcBT2PgGwu/I5/PRsUldaz6Dr8zT8KkI= From: MikkelFJ Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] introduce a version alias mechanism (#2573) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca196c6e5db8_4b193fadb90d45c051669a"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: mikkelfj X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 04:42:50 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca196c6e5db8_4b193fadb90d45c051669a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting, but middleboxes can scan for known unsalted versions and blo= ck some of these. This effectively stops these versions because salting i= sn=E2=80=99t reliable. Furthermore a middlebox can drop any initial packe= t it doesn=E2=80=99t understand to force unsalted version on retry.=0D =0D It can still work for less aggressive middleboxes, but perhaps it is bett= er to wait for the fully encrypted solution Kazuho and Huitema has been w= orking on.=0D =0D -- =0D You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.=0D Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:=0D https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2573#issuecomment-478433519= ----==_mimepart_5ca196c6e5db8_4b193fadb90d45c051669a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Interesting, but middleboxes can scan for known unsalted versions and = block some of these. This effectively stops these versions because saltin= g isn=E2=80=99t reliable. Furthermore a middlebox can drop any initial pa= cket it doesn=E2=80=99t understand to force unsalted version on retry.=0D

It can still work for less aggressive middleboxes, but perhaps it is b= etter to wait for the fully encrypted solution Kazuho and Huitema has bee= n working on.

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In addition to what @mikkelfj points out, a middlebox can inje= ct a VN and force the client to retransmit the Initial packet in the vers= ion the middlebox prefers. Note that such an attack would not be noticed,= because we are removing downgrade prevention from the VN design.

I think that the proposed approach works as an anti-ossification mecha= nism, but I do not think it's anything more than that.

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In addition to what @mikkelfj points out, a middlebox can inje= ct a VN and force the client to retransmit the Initial packet in the vers= ion the middlebox prefers. Note that such an attack would not be noticed,= because we are removing downgrade prevention from the VN design.

That's correct, until we define a QUIC version that has downg= rade protection (assuming that this version contains the version alias me= chanism proposed here). It seems to be the desire of many people I've spo= ken to quickly define a QUIC v2 that's identical to QUIC v1, with version= negotiation being the only addition to the protocol. In that case, this = attack would become infeasible as soon as v2 is deployed, because middleb= oxes have no way of distinguishing between a v1 and a v2 alias version.

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Then, I might prefer calling this a v2 issue.

If we are to start running v2 as soon as (or even before) v1 gets finalized, possibly with an anti-ossification scheme like this, then I do not think we need to discuss inclusion of this PR in v1?

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How is this not a duplicate of #2458?

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If we are to start running v2 as soon as (or even before) v1 gets fina= lized, possibly with an anti-ossification scheme like this (that comes al= ong with downgrade protection), then I do not think we need to discuss in= clusion of this PR in v1?

I disagree with that. Just because this mechanism isn't perfect, doesn= 't mean that it's not valuable in preventing ossification. And, as = @mikkelfj pointed out, middleboxes can always just d= rop packets they don't like, so no mechanism will ever be perfect.
Preventing ossification of the version number is valuable no matter if v1= or v1 and v2 are rolled out at the same time. In addition, should design= ing v2 take longer than we hope now, this mechanism will hopefully get mi= ddleboxes used to the fact that valid QUIC traffic actually uses the whol= e range of version numbers.

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Nevermind, I can fix this easily.

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[ci skip] From nobody Sun Mar 31 23:42:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: quic-issues@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0356120046 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 23:42:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=github.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1YISEZxrAKdY for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 23:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out-9.smtp.github.com (out-9.smtp.github.com [192.30.254.192]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B3D112003F for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2019 23:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 23:42:01 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=github.com; s=pf2014; t=1554100921; bh=EGNJjCB2bIjZdfaaalkAa6hl4MpZmDJFpqRcIBWzqng=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Subject:List-ID:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Unsubscribe:From; b=uh1KxWzWiDqQ3cbLDW9N6rG19xVOcW4vWlAo798ehJkXrNjNrz57Bgx8vVKUskl+O 4uv8mXEnHAh/KT8cVShV2lmXj2/1o6ewtEXNYhHwYWwJbdcf46sItkuOZ56gDvdiau pvEGJJidsV2FHqEX0fJK+hl2Re09BeehZEp7K+xo= From: Martin Thomson Reply-To: quicwg/base-drafts To: quicwg/base-drafts Cc: Subscribed Message-ID: Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Add normative language for stateless reset (#2574) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--==_mimepart_5ca1b2b9edf9_b5a3fd36b8d45b8526185"; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-GitHub-Sender: martinthomson X-GitHub-Recipient: quic-issues X-GitHub-Reason: subscribed X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-GitHub-Recipient-Address: quic-issues@ietf.org Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic-issues@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Notification list for GitHub issues related to the QUIC WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 06:42:04 -0000 ----==_mimepart_5ca1b2b9edf9_b5a3fd36b8d45b8526185 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fixes #2471. I know that we made this a design issue, and these do change 2119 language, but those normative requirements were implied anyway. That is, the text used cannot vs. MUST NOT. You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574 -- Commit Summary -- * Allow use of long header for stateless reset * Move the mandatory check to the detecting section * Use normative language about CID reuse -- File Changes -- M draft-ietf-quic-transport.md (45) -- Patch Links -- https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574.patch https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574.diff -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/2574 ----==_mimepart_5ca1b2b9edf9_b5a3fd36b8d45b8526185 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Fixes #2471.

I know that we made this a design issue, and these do change 2119 language, but those normative requirements were implied anyway. That is, the text used cannot vs. MUST NOT.

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Commit Summary

  • Allow use of long header for stateless reset
  • Move the mandatory check to the detecting section
  • Use normative language about CID reuse

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2387,16 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet with a
+short header either cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted,
+or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16
+bytes of the packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens provided by its peer, either

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Closes #2572.

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The endpoint -then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset -Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or -the server's transport parameters. If these values are identical, -the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further +An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet with a +short header either cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted, +or is marked as a duplicate packet. The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16 +bytes of the packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens provided by its peer, either That's a risk you take when you send packets with lots of different connection IDs. I notice that I don't mention those that are retired though. I'll fix that. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. 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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -2391,13 +2387,16 @@ the packet other than the last 16 bytes for carrying data.
 
 ### Detecting a Stateless Reset
 
-An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet
-with a short header either cannot be associated with a connection,
-cannot be decrypted, or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint
-then compares the last 16 bytes of the packet with the Stateless Reset
-Token provided by its peer, either in a NEW_CONNECTION_ID frame or
-the server's transport parameters.  If these values are identical,
-the endpoint MUST enter the draining period and not send any further
+An endpoint detects a potential stateless reset when a incoming packet with a
+short header either cannot be associated with a connection, cannot be decrypted,
+or is marked as a duplicate packet.  The endpoint MUST then compare the last 16
+bytes of the packet with all Stateless Reset Tokens provided by its peer, either

That's a risk you take when you send packets with lots of different connection IDs. I notice that I don't mention those that are retired though. I'll fix that.

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In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -3246,7 +3246,21 @@ Implementors are encouraged to register version numbers of QUIC that they are
 using for private experimentation on the GitHub wiki at
 \<https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/wiki/QUIC-Versions\>.
 
-
+## Version Aliases
+
+In order to avoid ossification of the version number defined by this draft,
+servers announce a list of version numbers that they interpret as an alias for
+the version number used in this draft. Alias versions MUST NOT be a reserved
+version. Servers SHOULD send at least one version alias, and SHOULD frequently
+change the value that they announce. Each version alias contains a lifetime,

If we have this, is there any point to the concept of reserved versions at all? Perhaps this depends on future version negotiation.

In draft-ietf-quic-transport.md:

> @@ -4115,6 +4130,25 @@ preferred_address (0x000d):
 ~~~
 {: #fig-preferred-address title="Preferred Address format"}
 
+version_aliases (0x000e):
+
+: A list of version numbers that the server accepts as an alias for the
+  currently used versions. This transport parameter is only sent by the server.
+  Every version alias contains a lifetime in seconds. The alias is only valid
+  for that lifetime, clients MUST NOT use it after expiry.
+
+~~~
+   struct {
+     uint32 VersionNumber;
+     varint Lifetime;

Also, while seconds are fine, do we have seconds as a unit anywhere else - otherwise milliseconds may be a better unit.

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