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RADEXT has been given a 2 hour time slot on Monday morning (11/14) from 09:=
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This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS attributes for IP=
v6 Access Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG for publicat=
ion as a proposed standard RFC.

The document is available for inspection here:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access/
The RADEXT WG last call will last until November 8, 2011.   If you have com=
ments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See below for summar=
y of instructions.
Thanks,
Mauricio
---------------------------------
1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the RADEXT =
WG site on the tools server:  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login

2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by naviga=
ting to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin

3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you can fil=
e an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry form: http://trac.tools.ietf.=
org/wg/radext/trac/newticket

4.       When opening an issue:
a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with the cu=
rrent document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition of functional=
ity (such as an additional requirement).
b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the Issue.   Fo=
r example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless, I know)=
.
d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are filing t=
he issue on.
e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status of the d=
ocument (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless inspiration=
 seizes you.
h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email address =
of the editor.

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 but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this ticket".

6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview" button. =
 When you're ready to submit the issue, click on the "Create Ticket" button=
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7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets" page: htt=
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on the document, please file using TRAC system.&nbsp; See below for summary=
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sp;&nbsp; To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the RADEXT=
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don&#8217;t already have a login ID, you =
can obtain one by navigating to this site:&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://tr=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once you have obtained an account, and have =
logged in, you can file an issue by navigating to the&nbsp; ticket entry fo=
rm: <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket">http://=
trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span><=
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This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS attributes for IP=
v6 Access Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG for publicat=
ion as a proposed standard RFC.

The document is available for inspection here:
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access/
The RADEXT WG last call will last until November 8, 2011.   If you have com=
ments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See below for summar=
y of instructions.
Thanks,
Mauricio
---------------------------------
1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the RADEXT =
WG site on the tools server:  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login

2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by naviga=
ting to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin

3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you can fil=
e an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry form: http://trac.tools.ietf.=
org/wg/radext/trac/newticket

4.       When opening an issue:
a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with the cu=
rrent document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition of functional=
ity (such as an additional requirement).
b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the Issue.   Fo=
r example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless, I know)=
.
d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are filing t=
he issue on.
e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status of the d=
ocument (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless inspiration=
 seizes you.
h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email address =
of the editor.

5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the ticket,=
 but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this ticket".

6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview" button. =
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ight:14.4pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-se=
rif"'>This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on &quot;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RADIUS attributes for =
IPv6 Access Networks</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ver=
dana","sans-serif"'>&quot;, prior to sending the document to the IESG for p=
ublication as a proposed standard RFC. <br><br>The document is available fo=
r inspection here:</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Couri=
er New"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:=
12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'=
><a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access/"=
>http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access/</a><o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The RADEXT WG la=
st call will last until November 8, 2011.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you have comments =
on the document, please file using TRAC system.&nbsp; See below for summary=
 of instructions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","san=
s-serif"'>Thanks,<br>Mauricio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana","sans-serif"'>---------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the RADEXT=
 WG site on the tools server:&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/rad=
ext/trac/login">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login</a> <br><br><o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span=
 style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>2.&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don&#8217;t already have a login ID, you =
can obtain one by navigating to this site:&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://tr=
ac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin</a><br><br>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>3.&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once you have obtained an account, and have =
logged in, you can file an issue by navigating to the&nbsp; ticket entry fo=
rm: <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket">http://=
trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; When opening an issue:<br>a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; The Type: field should be set to &#8220;defect&#8221; for an issue with t=
he current document text, or &#8220;enhancement&#8221; for a proposed addit=
ion of functionality (such as an additional requirement). <br>b.&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the=
 Issue.&nbsp;&nbsp; For example, editorial issues are typically &#8220;mino=
r&#8221; or &#8220;trivial&#8221;. <br>c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless, I know). <br>=
d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Component: field should be set to the =
document you are filing the issue on.&nbsp; <br>e.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; The Version: field should be set to &#8220;1.0&#8221;. <br>f.&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Severity: field should be set to bas=
ed on the status of the document (e.g. &#8220;In WG Last Call&#8221; for a =
document in WG last call)<br>g.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; T=
he Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless inspiration seizes you=
. <br>h.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Assign To: field is generally fi=
lled in with the email address of the editor. <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p=
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cket&#8221;. <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ma=
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your Issue, click on the &#8220;Preview&#8221; button.&nbsp; When you&#8217=
;re ready to submit the issue, click on the &#8220;Create Ticket&#8221; but=
ton. <br><br>7.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to update a=
n issue, go to the &quot;View Tickets&quot; page: <a href=3D"http://trac.to=
ols.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/=
trac/report/1</a>&nbsp; Click on the ticket # you want to update, and then =
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> From: trac+radext@trac.tools.ietf.org
> CC: radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> To: blourdel@cisco.com=3B bernard_aboba@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 25 Oct 2011 16:17:41 +0000
> Subject: [radext] #107: Section 1
>=20
> #107: Section 1
>=20
>  I'd suggest not trying to explain the distinction between RFC 3162
>  attributes and the ones in this document in Section 1=2C but rather with=
in
>  the specific sections used for that purpose (e.g. Sections 2.1=2C 2.3=2C
>  etc.).  With this material moved elsewhere=2C Section 1 can be rewritten=
 as
>  follows:
>=20
>     This document specifies additional RADIUS attributes used to support
>     configuration of DHCPv6 and/or ICMPv6 parameters on a per-user basis.
>     The attributes=2C which complement those defined in [RFC3162] and
>     [RFC4818]=2C support the following:
>=20
>     o  Assignment of specific IPv6 addresses to hosts via DHCPv6.
>=20
>     o  Assignment of an IPv6 DNS server address=2C via DHCPv6 or [RFC5006=
].
>=20
>     o  Configuration of more specific routes to be announced to the user
>        via the Route Information Option defined in [RFC4191] Section 2.3.
>=20
>     o  The assignment of a named delegated prefix pool for use with "IPv6
>        Prefix Options for DHCPv6" [RFC3633].
>=20
>     o  The assignment of a named stateful address pool for use with
>        DHCPv6 stateful address assignment [RFC3315]
>=20
> --=20
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>  Reporter:  bernard_aboba@=85  |      Owner:  blourdel@=85
>      Type:  defect           |     Status:  new
>  Priority:  minor            |  Milestone:  milestone1
> Component:  ipv6-access      |    Version:  1.0
>  Severity:  In WG Last Call  |   Keywords:
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>=20
> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/107>
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Note that TRAC is still sending messages to the old (and now discontinued) =
RADEXT WG list.&nbsp=3B <br><br><div>&gt=3B From: trac+radext@trac.tools.ie=
tf.org<br>&gt=3B CC: radiusext@ops.ietf.org<br>&gt=3B To: blourdel@cisco.co=
m=3B bernard_aboba@hotmail.com<br>&gt=3B Date: Tue=2C 25 Oct 2011 16:17:41 =
+0000<br>&gt=3B Subject: [radext] #107: Section 1<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B #107=
: Section 1<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B  I'd suggest not trying to explain the dis=
tinction between RFC 3162<br>&gt=3B  attributes and the ones in this docume=
nt in Section 1=2C but rather within<br>&gt=3B  the specific sections used =
for that purpose (e.g. Sections 2.1=2C 2.3=2C<br>&gt=3B  etc.).  With this =
material moved elsewhere=2C Section 1 can be rewritten as<br>&gt=3B  follow=
s:<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     This document specifies additional RADIUS attri=
butes used to support<br>&gt=3B     configuration of DHCPv6 and/or ICMPv6 p=
arameters on a per-user basis.<br>&gt=3B     The attributes=2C which comple=
ment those defined in [RFC3162] and<br>&gt=3B     [RFC4818]=2C support the =
following:<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  Assignment of specific IPv6 addresse=
s to hosts via DHCPv6.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  Assignment of an IPv6 DN=
S server address=2C via DHCPv6 or [RFC5006].<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  Co=
nfiguration of more specific routes to be announced to the user<br>&gt=3B  =
      via the Route Information Option defined in [RFC4191] Section 2.3.<br=
>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  The assignment of a named delegated prefix pool f=
or use with "IPv6<br>&gt=3B        Prefix Options for DHCPv6" [RFC3633].<br=
>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  The assignment of a named stateful address pool f=
or use with<br>&gt=3B        DHCPv6 stateful address assignment [RFC3315]<b=
r>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B -- <br>&gt=3B -----------------------------+-----------=
-------------<br>&gt=3B  Reporter:  bernard_aboba@=85  |      Owner:  blour=
del@=85<br>&gt=3B      Type:  defect           |     Status:  new<br>&gt=3B=
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l  |   Keywords:<br>&gt=3B -----------------------------+------------------=
------<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Ticket URL: &lt=3Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg=
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> From: trac+radext@trac.tools.ietf.org
> CC: radiusext@ops.ietf.org
> To: blourdel@cisco.com=3B bernard_aboba@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 25 Oct 2011 16:17:41 +0000
> Subject: [radext] #107: Section 1
>=20
> #107: Section 1
>=20
>  I'd suggest not trying to explain the distinction between RFC 3162
>  attributes and the ones in this document in Section 1=2C but rather with=
in
>  the specific sections used for that purpose (e.g. Sections 2.1=2C 2.3=2C
>  etc.).  With this material moved elsewhere=2C Section 1 can be rewritten=
 as
>  follows:
>=20
>     This document specifies additional RADIUS attributes used to support
>     configuration of DHCPv6 and/or ICMPv6 parameters on a per-user basis.
>     The attributes=2C which complement those defined in [RFC3162] and
>     [RFC4818]=2C support the following:
>=20
>     o  Assignment of specific IPv6 addresses to hosts via DHCPv6.
>=20
>     o  Assignment of an IPv6 DNS server address=2C via DHCPv6 or [RFC5006=
].
>=20
>     o  Configuration of more specific routes to be announced to the user
>        via the Route Information Option defined in [RFC4191] Section 2.3.
>=20
>     o  The assignment of a named delegated prefix pool for use with "IPv6
>        Prefix Options for DHCPv6" [RFC3633].
>=20
>     o  The assignment of a named stateful address pool for use with
>        DHCPv6 stateful address assignment [RFC3315]
>=20
> --=20
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>  Reporter:  bernard_aboba@=85  |      Owner:  blourdel@=85
>      Type:  defect           |     Status:  new
>  Priority:  minor            |  Milestone:  milestone1
> Component:  ipv6-access      |    Version:  1.0
>  Severity:  In WG Last Call  |   Keywords:
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>=20
> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/107>
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tf.org<br>&gt=3B CC: radiusext@ops.ietf.org<br>&gt=3B To: blourdel@cisco.co=
m=3B bernard_aboba@hotmail.com<br>&gt=3B Date: Tue=2C 25 Oct 2011 16:17:41 =
+0000<br>&gt=3B Subject: [radext] #107: Section 1<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B #107=
: Section 1<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B  I'd suggest not trying to explain the dis=
tinction between RFC 3162<br>&gt=3B  attributes and the ones in this docume=
nt in Section 1=2C but rather within<br>&gt=3B  the specific sections used =
for that purpose (e.g. Sections 2.1=2C 2.3=2C<br>&gt=3B  etc.).  With this =
material moved elsewhere=2C Section 1 can be rewritten as<br>&gt=3B  follow=
s:<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     This document specifies additional RADIUS attri=
butes used to support<br>&gt=3B     configuration of DHCPv6 and/or ICMPv6 p=
arameters on a per-user basis.<br>&gt=3B     The attributes=2C which comple=
ment those defined in [RFC3162] and<br>&gt=3B     [RFC4818]=2C support the =
following:<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  Assignment of specific IPv6 addresse=
s to hosts via DHCPv6.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  Assignment of an IPv6 DN=
S server address=2C via DHCPv6 or [RFC5006].<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  Co=
nfiguration of more specific routes to be announced to the user<br>&gt=3B  =
      via the Route Information Option defined in [RFC4191] Section 2.3.<br=
>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  The assignment of a named delegated prefix pool f=
or use with "IPv6<br>&gt=3B        Prefix Options for DHCPv6" [RFC3633].<br=
>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B     o  The assignment of a named stateful address pool f=
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r>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B -- <br>&gt=3B -----------------------------+-----------=
-------------<br>&gt=3B  Reporter:  bernard_aboba@=85  |      Owner:  blour=
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l  |   Keywords:<br>&gt=3B -----------------------------+------------------=
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> From: trac+radext@trac.tools.ietf.org
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> To: blourdel@cisco.com=3B bernard_aboba@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 25 Oct 2011 16:10:32 +0000
> Subject: [radext] #105: Section 2.3
>=20
> #105: Section 2.3
>=20
>  In Section 2.3 it says:
>=20
>     The distinction and separation between this attribute and the Framed-
>     IPv6-Route attribute defined in [RFC3162] is needed due to the need
>     to have the information carried by this attribute advertised (in
>     binary format as per RFC4191) to an attaching client=2C rather than
>     intended for the NAS itself.
>=20
>  [BA] My suggestion is that this be replaced by the text from Section 1=
=2C
>  which is more clear:
>=20
>           While the Framed-IPv6-Prefix Attribute defined in [RFC3162]
>           Section 2.3 causes the route to be advertised in an RA=2C it
>           cannot be used to configure more specific routes.  While the
>           Framed-IPv6-Route Attribute defined in [RFC3162] Section 2.5
>           causes the route to be configured on the NAS=2C and potentially
>           announced via an IGP=2C depending on the value of Framed-Routin=
g=2C
>           it does not result in the route being announced in an RA.
>=20
> --=20
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>  Reporter:  bernard_aboba@=85  |      Owner:  blourdel@=85
>      Type:  defect           |     Status:  new
>  Priority:  major            |  Milestone:  milestone1
> Component:  ipv6-access      |    Version:  1.0
>  Severity:  In WG Last Call  |   Keywords:
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>=20
> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/105>
> radext <http://tools.ietf.org/radext/>
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My suggestion is that this be replaced by the text from Section 1=2C<br>&gt=
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> From: trac+radext@trac.tools.ietf.org
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> To: blourdel@cisco.com=3B bernard_aboba@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 25 Oct 2011 16:10:32 +0000
> Subject: [radext] #105: Section 2.3
>=20
> #105: Section 2.3
>=20
>  In Section 2.3 it says:
>=20
>     The distinction and separation between this attribute and the Framed-
>     IPv6-Route attribute defined in [RFC3162] is needed due to the need
>     to have the information carried by this attribute advertised (in
>     binary format as per RFC4191) to an attaching client=2C rather than
>     intended for the NAS itself.
>=20
>  [BA] My suggestion is that this be replaced by the text from Section 1=
=2C
>  which is more clear:
>=20
>           While the Framed-IPv6-Prefix Attribute defined in [RFC3162]
>           Section 2.3 causes the route to be advertised in an RA=2C it
>           cannot be used to configure more specific routes.  While the
>           Framed-IPv6-Route Attribute defined in [RFC3162] Section 2.5
>           causes the route to be configured on the NAS=2C and potentially
>           announced via an IGP=2C depending on the value of Framed-Routin=
g=2C
>           it does not result in the route being announced in an RA.
>=20
> --=20
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>  Reporter:  bernard_aboba@=85  |      Owner:  blourdel@=85
>      Type:  defect           |     Status:  new
>  Priority:  major            |  Milestone:  milestone1
> Component:  ipv6-access      |    Version:  1.0
>  Severity:  In WG Last Call  |   Keywords:
> -----------------------------+------------------------
>=20
> Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/105>
> radext <http://tools.ietf.org/radext/>
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On 9/23/2011 4:24 AM, Alan DeKok wrote:
> jouni korhonen wrote:
>> The WGLC for this I-D completed yesterday. There were no comments, which I am not too comfortable with. However, again the I-D has been around for 2 years and 10 months.. so I guess those who had something to say have already done that. We'll move the I-D forward.

What's the status of this now? It passed wglc? According to the tracker
it is still waiting for the writeup?

Stig

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> describes what is in use today.
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	Title           : Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) Prot=
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	Author(s)       : Alan DeKok
                          Avi Lior
	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-02.txt
	Pages           : 57
	Date            : 2011-10-25

   The Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) protocol is
   nearing exhaustion of its current 8-bit attribute type space.  In
   addition, experience shows a growing need for complex grouping, along
   with attributes which can carry more than 253 octets of data.  This
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) Protocol Extensions
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	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-02.txt
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   The Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) protocol is
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  I've submitted -02 which addresses the concerns below.  All SHOULD /
MAY / MUST / etc. has been removed from the IANA considerations section.

  It repeated text elsewhere in the document, so there is no loss.

  Alan DeKok.


Bernard Aboba wrote:
> Here are my comments:
> 
> The IANA Considerations section needs to be revised.  It is recommended
> that the IANA considerations section be rewritten according to the
> recommendations of RFC 5226, and that this be cited as a normative
> reference.
> 
> Some issues:
> 
> 1. The IANA considerations section does not specify how attributes are
> to be allocated from the extended space, using policy terms defined in
> RFC 5226.
> 2. Normative language terms "SHOULD"/"SHOULD NOT" are used in Sections
> 9.1 and 9.5. 
> 
> The IANA is not a policy making body and therefore is not capable of handling MAY, SHOULD or SHOULD NOT directives. 
> 
> 
>       9.1. Attribute Allocations
> 
> 
> 
>    IANA is requested to move the "Unassigned" numbers in the range
>    144-191 from "Unassigned" to "Deprecated".  This status means that
>    allocations SHOULD NOT be made from this space.  Instead, allocations
>    SHOULD be taken from the Extended Type space, starting with lower
>    numbered attributes.  However, allocation from the "Deprecated" space
>    MAY still be performed by publication of an IETF specification, where
>    that specification requests allocation from the "Deprecated" space,
>    and gives reasons why use of the Extended Type space is impossible.
> 
> 
> [BA] 
> 
> It seems that the goal is to still allow allocation from the Unassigned range, while preferring allocation from the Extended Type space.
> 
> A more implementable way of accomplishing this might be to say that unless specifically requested to allocate from the Standard RADIUS space,
> IANA should make allocations from the extended type space. 
> 
> 
>       9.5. Extending the RADIUS Attribute Type Space
> 
> 
> 
>    The extended RADIUS Attribute Type space may eventually approach
>    exhaustion.  When necessary, the space SHOULD be extended by
>    publication of a specification which allocates new attributes of
>    either the "Extended Type", or the "Extended Type with flags" format.
> 
> [BA] This material relates to IETF not IANA processing, and so is not
> appropriate for an IANA considerations section.  The IANA cannot handle
> the policy decisions that are implied here. 
> 
> 
>    The specification SHOULD request allocation of a specific number from
>    the "Reserved" RADIUS Attribute type space, such as 247.  The
>    attribute(s) SHOULD be given a name which follows the naming
>    convention used in this document.  The Extended-Type value of 26 MUST
>    be allocated to a "Vendor Specific" attribute, of data type "esv".
>    The Extended-Type values of 241 through 255 MUST be marked as
>    "Reserved".
> 
>    IANA SHOULD allocate the attribute(s) as requested.  For example, if
>    allocation of attribute 247 is requested, the following definitions
>    MUST be made in the specification, and allocated by IANA.
> 
>    * 247.1          Extended-Attribute-7
>    * 247.{1-25}     Unassigned
>    * 247.26         Extended-Vendor-Specific-7
>    * 247.{27-240}   Unassigned
>    * 247.{241-255}  Reserved
> 
>    We note,however, that the above list is an example, and we do not
>    request or perform allocation of attribute 247 in this document.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Stig,

WGLC passed and waiting for a writeup.

- Jouni

On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Stig Venaas wrote:

> On 9/23/2011 4:24 AM, Alan DeKok wrote:
>> jouni korhonen wrote:
>>> The WGLC for this I-D completed yesterday. There were no comments, =
which I am not too comfortable with. However, again the I-D has been =
around for 2 years and 10 months.. so I guess those who had something to =
say have already done that. We'll move the I-D forward.
>=20
> What's the status of this now? It passed wglc? According to the =
tracker
> it is still waiting for the writeup?
>=20
> Stig
>=20
>>   There are 3-4 interoperable implementations.  So the document
>> describes what is in use today.
>>=20
>>   Alan DeKok.
>>=20
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From: Leaf yeh <leaf.y.yeh@huawei.com>
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A. Comments & question:

1. Section 9.

I am Not sure that the following words are necessary in section 9,

' However, allocation from the "Deprecated" space
   can still be performed by publication of an IETF specification, where
   that specification requests allocation from the "Deprecated" space,
   and gives reasons why use of the Extended Type space is impossible.'

I can't see any reason why use of the Extended Type space is impossible, when the new allocation intends to use the code from 144 to 191 in the above "Deprecated" space. 

I regard the space of 144-191 sounds the equal-right space as the extended space defined in the draft. Am I right?

2. Section 2.1 - Length

' If a client or server receives an Extended
      Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be
      deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently
      discarded. If it is not discarded, it MUST NOT be handled in the
      same manner as a well-formed attribute.

      Note that an "invalid attribute" does not cause the entire packet
      to be discarded, or to be treated as a negative acknowledgement.
      Instead, only the "invalid attribute" is discarded.'

How about the compliant implementation will do? Will the Octets per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, will be discarded? Then how to delimit the next attribute?

3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Length

' If a client or server
      receives a TLV with an invalid TLV-Length, then the attribute
      which encapsulates that TLV MUST be deemed to be an "invalid
      attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded. '

TLV date type sounds a sub-attribute here. Why do we need discard the whole attribute if we adopt the same logic described above, in section 2.1?


B. Editorials:

1. Section 2.2

' When the More
      flag is set (1), ...
      255; it MUST NOT have a length Field of of value 4; ...'

Supposed one 'of' should be here.

2. Section 2.3 (The same case happened in section 2.4.)

' We define a new data type in RADIUS, called "tlv".  The "tlv" data
   type is an encapsulation layer which which permits the "Value" field
   of an Attribute to contain new sub-Attributes. '

Supposed one 'which' should be here.

3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Type

'As with Extended-Type above, the TLV-Type is meaningful only
      within a context defined by "Type" fields of the encapsulating
      Attributes.'

Supposed the above should be '...within a context defined by "Extended-Type" field of the encapsulating Attribute.'.

4. Section 2.5

'The expected use
   og this data type is within Accounting-Request packets, but this data
   type SHOULD be used in any packet where 32-bit integers are expected
   to be insufficient.'

Supposed the above 'og' should be 'of'.

5. Section 3.1 -String (The same case happened in Section 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6)

'String

      The String field is one or more octets...'

Supposed the above should be 'Value 
The Value field is one or more octets...'

6. Section 3.5 (The same case happened in Section 3.6)

'Length

      >= 4'

Supposed the above should be ' Length >= 5'.


Best Regards,
Leaf


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From: owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-radiusext@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alan DeKok
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  I've submitted -02 which addresses the concerns below.  All SHOULD /
MAY / MUST / etc. has been removed from the IANA considerations section.

  It repeated text elsewhere in the document, so there is no loss.

  Alan DeKok.


Bernard Aboba wrote:
> Here are my comments:
> 
> The IANA Considerations section needs to be revised.  It is recommended
> that the IANA considerations section be rewritten according to the
> recommendations of RFC 5226, and that this be cited as a normative
> reference.
> 
> Some issues:
> 
> 1. The IANA considerations section does not specify how attributes are
> to be allocated from the extended space, using policy terms defined in
> RFC 5226.
> 2. Normative language terms "SHOULD"/"SHOULD NOT" are used in Sections
> 9.1 and 9.5. 
> 
> The IANA is not a policy making body and therefore is not capable of handling MAY, SHOULD or SHOULD NOT directives. 
> 
> 
>       9.1. Attribute Allocations
> 
> 
> 
>    IANA is requested to move the "Unassigned" numbers in the range
>    144-191 from "Unassigned" to "Deprecated".  This status means that
>    allocations SHOULD NOT be made from this space.  Instead, allocations
>    SHOULD be taken from the Extended Type space, starting with lower
>    numbered attributes.  However, allocation from the "Deprecated" space
>    MAY still be performed by publication of an IETF specification, where
>    that specification requests allocation from the "Deprecated" space,
>    and gives reasons why use of the Extended Type space is impossible.
> 
> 
> [BA] 
> 
> It seems that the goal is to still allow allocation from the Unassigned range, while preferring allocation from the Extended Type space.
> 
> A more implementable way of accomplishing this might be to say that unless specifically requested to allocate from the Standard RADIUS space,
> IANA should make allocations from the extended type space. 
> 
> 
>       9.5. Extending the RADIUS Attribute Type Space
> 
> 
> 
>    The extended RADIUS Attribute Type space may eventually approach
>    exhaustion.  When necessary, the space SHOULD be extended by
>    publication of a specification which allocates new attributes of
>    either the "Extended Type", or the "Extended Type with flags" format.
> 
> [BA] This material relates to IETF not IANA processing, and so is not
> appropriate for an IANA considerations section.  The IANA cannot handle
> the policy decisions that are implied here. 
> 
> 
>    The specification SHOULD request allocation of a specific number from
>    the "Reserved" RADIUS Attribute type space, such as 247.  The
>    attribute(s) SHOULD be given a name which follows the naming
>    convention used in this document.  The Extended-Type value of 26 MUST
>    be allocated to a "Vendor Specific" attribute, of data type "esv".
>    The Extended-Type values of 241 through 255 MUST be marked as
>    "Reserved".
> 
>    IANA SHOULD allocate the attribute(s) as requested.  For example, if
>    allocation of attribute 247 is requested, the following definitions
>    MUST be made in the specification, and allocated by IANA.
> 
>    * 247.1          Extended-Attribute-7
>    * 247.{1-25}     Unassigned
>    * 247.26         Extended-Vendor-Specific-7
>    * 247.{27-240}   Unassigned
>    * 247.{241-255}  Reserved
> 
>    We note,however, that the above list is an example, and we do not
>    request or perform allocation of attribute 247 in this document.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Leaf yeh wrote:
> I am Not sure that the following words are necessary in section 9,
> 
> ' However, allocation from the "Deprecated" space
>    can still be performed by publication of an IETF specification, where
>    that specification requests allocation from the "Deprecated" space,
>    and gives reasons why use of the Extended Type space is impossible.'
> 
> I can't see any reason why use of the Extended Type space is impossible, when the new allocation intends to use the code from 144 to 191 in the above "Deprecated" space. 

  Neither can I.  But it gives people the ability to use the range
144..191 if they *really* need it.

> I regard the space of 144-191 sounds the equal-right space as the extended space defined in the draft. Am I right?

  No.  The above text says its "Deprecated".  It SHOULD NOT be used.

  It's deprecated because the extended format does more, and has more
attributes available.  We wish to reserve the 144..191 space for future
extensions, or for specifications which can't use the extended space.

  The alternative is to allow allocation from 144..191.  What will
happen is that no one will use the extended space, and the 144..11 space
will quickly be completely allocated.

> 2. Section 2.1 - Length
> 
> ' If a client or server receives an Extended
>       Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be
>       deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently
>       discarded. If it is not discarded, it MUST NOT be handled in the
>       same manner as a well-formed attribute.
> 
>       Note that an "invalid attribute" does not cause the entire packet
>       to be discarded, or to be treated as a negative acknowledgement.
>       Instead, only the "invalid attribute" is discarded.'
> 
> How about the compliant implementation will do? Will the Octets per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, will be discarded?

  I have no idea what that means.

> Then how to delimit the next attribute?

  I don't know what that means, either.

> 3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Length
> 
> ' If a client or server
>       receives a TLV with an invalid TLV-Length, then the attribute
>       which encapsulates that TLV MUST be deemed to be an "invalid
>       attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded. '
> 
> TLV date type sounds a sub-attribute here.

  Yes... it's defined that way in the document.

> Why do we need discard the whole attribute if we adopt the same logic described above, in section 2.1?

  We discard the TLV that is invalid.  We don't discard the attribute
which encapsulates it.

> B. Editorials:
> 
> 1. Section 2.2
> 
> ' When the More
>       flag is set (1), ...
>       255; it MUST NOT have a length Field of of value 4; ...'
> 
> Supposed one 'of' should be here.

  Fixed, thanks.

> 2. Section 2.3 (The same case happened in section 2.4.)
> 
> ' We define a new data type in RADIUS, called "tlv".  The "tlv" data
>    type is an encapsulation layer which which permits the "Value" field
>    of an Attribute to contain new sub-Attributes. '
> 
> Supposed one 'which' should be here.

  Fixed, thanks.

> 3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Type
> 
> 'As with Extended-Type above, the TLV-Type is meaningful only
>       within a context defined by "Type" fields of the encapsulating
>       Attributes.'
> 
> Supposed the above should be '...within a context defined by "Extended-Type" field of the encapsulating Attribute.'.

  It says "Type field*s*".

> 4. Section 2.5
> 
> 'The expected use
>    og this data type is within Accounting-Request packets, but this data
>    type SHOULD be used in any packet where 32-bit integers are expected
>    to be insufficient.'
> 
> Supposed the above 'og' should be 'of'.

  Fixed, thanks.

> 5. Section 3.1 -String (The same case happened in Section 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6)
> 
> 'String
> 
>       The String field is one or more octets...'
> 
> Supposed the above should be 'Value 
> The Value field is one or more octets...'

  Fixed, thanks.

> 6. Section 3.5 (The same case happened in Section 3.6)
> 
> 'Length
> 
>       >= 4'
> 
> Supposed the above should be ' Length >= 5'.

  Fixed, thanks.

  Alan DeKok.

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Alan DeKok - We wish to reserve the 144..191 space for future extensions, or for specifications which can't use the extended space. 

Can we suppose the following codes are reserved for the future extension?

192-223 Experimental Use [RFC3575] 
224-240 Implementation Specific [RFC3575] 
247-255 Reserved [RFC3575] 

Note: 241-246 Extended type [Defined in draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions]

I meant the space of 144-191 doesn't really deserve to be ' Deprecated'.


Alan DeKok - The alternative is to allow allocation from 144..191.
What will happen is that no one will use the extended space, and the 144..11 space will quickly be completely allocated.

Understand, but it looks harmless even we expect that happen.


Leaf - > 2. Section 2.1 - Length
>       'If a client or server receives an Extended
>       Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be
>       deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently
>       discarded. If it is not discarded, it MUST NOT be handled in the
>       same manner as a well-formed attribute.
> 
>       Note that an "invalid attribute" does not cause the entire packet
>       to be discarded, or to be treated as a negative acknowledgement.
>       Instead, only the "invalid attribute" is discarded.'
> How about the compliant implementation will do? Will the Octets per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, will be discarded?
Alan DeKok - I have no idea what that means.

I meant ' If a client or server receives an Extended Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded.', then how to do discard this attribute? Does it mean the octets, per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, from the 1st octet of 'Type', will be discarded? 

Can we trust all the attributes followed this 'invalid' attribute' in the Radius packet, if the delimitation of these attributes turns to be some kind of suspicious or difficult?

Leaf - > Then how to delimit the next attribute?
Alan DeKok - I don't know what that means, either.

I meant how to figure out the beginning octet of the next attribute followed this 'invalid' attribute'?

Alan DeKok - We discard the TLV that is invalid. We don't discard the attribute which encapsulates it.

There exists the same issue described above.

-------------------------------------
One more Editorial 

7.  Section 2.4

'   0                   1                   2                   3
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |                            Vendor-Id                          |
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |  Vendor-Type   |  String ....
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
...

String

      The String field is one or more octets. ...'

Would you mind to change the above 'String's to be 'Value's? 

That might mean more replacements in section 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 & 4.6.


Best Regards,
Leaf



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Leaf yeh wrote:
> I am Not sure that the following words are necessary in section 9,
> 
> ' However, allocation from the "Deprecated" space
>    can still be performed by publication of an IETF specification, where
>    that specification requests allocation from the "Deprecated" space,
>    and gives reasons why use of the Extended Type space is impossible.'
> 
> I can't see any reason why use of the Extended Type space is impossible, when the new allocation intends to use the code from 144 to 191 in the above "Deprecated" space. 

  Neither can I.  But it gives people the ability to use the range
144..191 if they *really* need it.

> I regard the space of 144-191 sounds the equal-right space as the extended space defined in the draft. Am I right?

  No.  The above text says its "Deprecated".  It SHOULD NOT be used.

  It's deprecated because the extended format does more, and has more
attributes available.  We wish to reserve the 144..191 space for future
extensions, or for specifications which can't use the extended space.

  The alternative is to allow allocation from 144..191.  What will
happen is that no one will use the extended space, and the 144..11 space
will quickly be completely allocated.

> 2. Section 2.1 - Length
> 
> ' If a client or server receives an Extended
>       Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be
>       deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently
>       discarded. If it is not discarded, it MUST NOT be handled in the
>       same manner as a well-formed attribute.
> 
>       Note that an "invalid attribute" does not cause the entire packet
>       to be discarded, or to be treated as a negative acknowledgement.
>       Instead, only the "invalid attribute" is discarded.'
> 
> How about the compliant implementation will do? Will the Octets per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, will be discarded?

  I have no idea what that means.

> Then how to delimit the next attribute?

  I don't know what that means, either.

> 3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Length
> 
> ' If a client or server
>       receives a TLV with an invalid TLV-Length, then the attribute
>       which encapsulates that TLV MUST be deemed to be an "invalid
>       attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded. '
> 
> TLV date type sounds a sub-attribute here.

  Yes... it's defined that way in the document.

> Why do we need discard the whole attribute if we adopt the same logic described above, in section 2.1?

  We discard the TLV that is invalid.  We don't discard the attribute
which encapsulates it.

> B. Editorials:
> 
> 1. Section 2.2
> 
> ' When the More
>       flag is set (1), ...
>       255; it MUST NOT have a length Field of of value 4; ...'
> 
> Supposed one 'of' should be here.

  Fixed, thanks.

> 2. Section 2.3 (The same case happened in section 2.4.)
> 
> ' We define a new data type in RADIUS, called "tlv".  The "tlv" data
>    type is an encapsulation layer which which permits the "Value" field
>    of an Attribute to contain new sub-Attributes. '
> 
> Supposed one 'which' should be here.

  Fixed, thanks.

> 3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Type
> 
> 'As with Extended-Type above, the TLV-Type is meaningful only
>       within a context defined by "Type" fields of the encapsulating
>       Attributes.'
> 
> Supposed the above should be '...within a context defined by "Extended-Type" field of the encapsulating Attribute.'.

  It says "Type field*s*".

> 4. Section 2.5
> 
> 'The expected use
>    og this data type is within Accounting-Request packets, but this data
>    type SHOULD be used in any packet where 32-bit integers are expected
>    to be insufficient.'
> 
> Supposed the above 'og' should be 'of'.

  Fixed, thanks.

> 5. Section 3.1 -String (The same case happened in Section 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5, 3.6)
> 
> 'String
> 
>       The String field is one or more octets...'
> 
> Supposed the above should be 'Value 
> The Value field is one or more octets...'

  Fixed, thanks.

> 6. Section 3.5 (The same case happened in Section 3.6)
> 
> 'Length
> 
>       >= 4'
> 
> Supposed the above should be ' Length >= 5'.

  Fixed, thanks.

  Alan DeKok.

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Leaf yeh wrote:
> Alan DeKok - We wish to reserve the 144..191 space for future extensions, or for specifications which can't use the extended space. 
> 
> Can we suppose the following codes are reserved for the future extension?

  Yes, they are.

> I meant the space of 144-191 doesn't really deserve to be ' Deprecated'.

  I explained my reasons.  Saying they don't "deserver" to be deprecated
isn't a useful response.

> Alan DeKok - The alternative is to allow allocation from 144..191.
> What will happen is that no one will use the extended space, and the 144..11 space will quickly be completely allocated.
> 
> Understand, but it looks harmless even we expect that happen.

  By the same argument, there's no harm in requiring people to use the
extended space.

>> How about the compliant implementation will do? Will the Octets per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, will be discarded?
> Alan DeKok - I have no idea what that means.
> 
> I meant ' If a client or server receives an Extended Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded.', then how to do discard this attribute? Does it mean the octets, per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, from the 1st octet of 'Type', will be discarded? 

  Your question assumes that the input packet is edited to remove the
attribute.  This is not true.  When the text says "discard the
attribute", it means "ignore it".

> Can we trust all the attributes followed this 'invalid' attribute' in the Radius packet, if the delimitation of these attributes turns to be some kind of suspicious or difficult?

  I have no idea what that means.

> Leaf - > Then how to delimit the next attribute?
> Alan DeKok - I don't know what that means, either.
> 
> I meant how to figure out the beginning octet of the next attribute followed this 'invalid' attribute'?

  You haven't read the draft, then.  The "invalid attribute" is
correctly formed, so that the entire packet can be correctly decoded.
The text says this explicitly.

  So your question above is based on an incorrect assumption: the
"invalid attribute" means "malformed RADIUS packet".

> Alan DeKok - We discard the TLV that is invalid. We don't discard the attribute which encapsulates it.
> 
> There exists the same issue described above.

  The same misunderstanding applies here, too.

> One more Editorial 
..
> Would you mind to change the above 'String's to be 'Value's? 
> 
> That might mean more replacements in section 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 & 4.6.

  Already done.

  Alan DeKok.

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Alan DeKok - Saying they don't "deserver" to be deprecated isn't a useful response.

It was just my argument, sorry for that. Let's wait for the decision made by the WG or IESG.

Alan DeKok - Your question assumes that the input packet is edited to remove the attribute. This is not true. When the text says "discard the attribute", it means "ignore it".

Yes. 'Ignore' sounds better, but the question in technique seems still there. I guess the implementation might have some different treatment here:

1. ignore the whole packet; then request the 2nd time; or
2. ignore the attributes followed this invalid attribute; or 
3. ignore only this invalid attribute, and delimit the next attribute per the 'length' field of this invalid attribute; 

Does the 3rd one means 'silently discard' in your text?

Alan DeKok - The "invalid attribute" is correctly formed, so that the entire packet can be correctly decoded. The text says this explicitly.

Could you show me the explicit text in your draft mentioned above?

Leaf - >3. Section 2.3 - TLV-Length
> ' If a client or server
>       receives a TLV with an invalid TLV-Length, then the attribute
>       which encapsulates that TLV MUST be deemed to be an "invalid
>       attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded. '
Alan DeKok - We discard the TLV that is invalid. We don't discard the attribute which encapsulates it.

But the above text sounds to discard the whole encapsulating attribute.


Best Regards,
Leaf


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Leaf yeh wrote:
> Alan DeKok - We wish to reserve the 144..191 space for future extensions, or for specifications which can't use the extended space. 
> 
> Can we suppose the following codes are reserved for the future extension?

  Yes, they are.

> I meant the space of 144-191 doesn't really deserve to be ' Deprecated'.

  I explained my reasons.  Saying they don't "deserver" to be deprecated
isn't a useful response.

> Alan DeKok - The alternative is to allow allocation from 144..191.
> What will happen is that no one will use the extended space, and the 144..11 space will quickly be completely allocated.
> 
> Understand, but it looks harmless even we expect that happen.

  By the same argument, there's no harm in requiring people to use the
extended space.

>> How about the compliant implementation will do? Will the Octets per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, will be discarded?
> Alan DeKok - I have no idea what that means.
> 
> I meant ' If a client or server receives an Extended Attribute with a Length of 2 or 3, then that Attribute MUST be deemed to be an "invalid attribute", it SHOULD be silently discarded.', then how to do discard this attribute? Does it mean the octets, per the Length of the attribute, eg. 2 or 3, from the 1st octet of 'Type', will be discarded? 

  Your question assumes that the input packet is edited to remove the
attribute.  This is not true.  When the text says "discard the
attribute", it means "ignore it".

> Can we trust all the attributes followed this 'invalid' attribute' in the Radius packet, if the delimitation of these attributes turns to be some kind of suspicious or difficult?

  I have no idea what that means.

> Leaf - > Then how to delimit the next attribute?
> Alan DeKok - I don't know what that means, either.
> 
> I meant how to figure out the beginning octet of the next attribute followed this 'invalid' attribute'?

  You haven't read the draft, then.  The "invalid attribute" is
correctly formed, so that the entire packet can be correctly decoded.
The text says this explicitly.

  So your question above is based on an incorrect assumption: the
"invalid attribute" means "malformed RADIUS packet".

> Alan DeKok - We discard the TLV that is invalid. We don't discard the attribute which encapsulates it.
> 
> There exists the same issue described above.

  The same misunderstanding applies here, too.

> One more Editorial 
..
> Would you mind to change the above 'String's to be 'Value's? 
> 
> That might mean more replacements in section 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5 & 4.6.

  Already done.

  Alan DeKok.

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Leaf yeh wrote:
> Alan DeKok - Your question assumes that the input packet is edited to remove the attribute. This is not true. When the text says "discard the attribute", it means "ignore it".
> 
> Yes. 'Ignore' sounds better, but the question in technique seems still there. I guess the implementation might have some different treatment here:

  No.  The document describes the correct behavior.  There are no
implementation choices.

> 1. ignore the whole packet; then request the 2nd time; or
> 2. ignore the attributes followed this invalid attribute; or 
> 3. ignore only this invalid attribute, and delimit the next attribute per the 'length' field of this invalid attribute; 
> 
> Does the 3rd one means 'silently discard' in your text?

  Possibly.  I still don't understand why the text is unclear.  You're
focused on parsing the RADIUS packet.  The text about "invalid
attribute" is talking about the *attribute*, not the *packet*.

> Alan DeKok - The "invalid attribute" is correctly formed, so that the entire packet can be correctly decoded. The text says this explicitly.
> 
> Could you show me the explicit text in your draft mentioned above?

  The text which defines the "invalid attribute" term at the top of the
document.  It says that the Length field is valid, but the *Value* field
is wrong.  Since the Length field is valid, the packet can be parsed
correctly.  So the entire packet is correctly formed.

  Again, the term "invalid attribute" refers to the *Value* field of an
attribute.  It has nothing to do with parsing the packet.

  I really don't know how to make this any clearer.

  Alan DeKok.

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Dear Group,

1. draft-yeh-radext-ext-traffic-statistics-01 is ready for your comment on whether it deserves a WG item at RADEXT. 

2. It defined 8 new attributes of traffic statistics for the separate IPv4 & IPv6 stack (queue or counter), and employed the new date type of integer64, but the format of new attributes might be still a question now. It has 2 options now:  a. the traditional format defined in [RFC2865];  b. the new extended format defined in [draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-02].

Anyway, they are looking forward to your further discussion now.


Best Regards,
Leaf


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Dear Group,

1. draft-yeh-radext-ext-traffic-statistics-01 is ready for your comment on whether it deserves a WG item at RADEXT. 

2. It defined 8 new attributes of traffic statistics for the separate IPv4 & IPv6 stack (queue or counter), and employed the new date type of integer64, but the format of new attributes might be still a question now. It has 2 options now:  a. the traditional format defined in [RFC2865];  b. the new extended format defined in [draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-02].

Anyway, they are looking forward to your further discussion now.


Best Regards,
Leaf


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One more editorial on the title of the draft, remember someone express the same in the ML, I just repeat it here.

'Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) Protocol Extensions '

But RFC2869 has the title of 'RADIUS Extensions'. They looks very similarly.

How about to re-title your draft? My suggesting might be 'RADIUS Extension Plus on the Type Space of Attributes with more Data Types', just for your reference.


----------------------------------------------------------
One more argument on the text in section 9.1

'New allocations are
normally taken from the Extended Type space, starting with lower
numbered attributes.'

But the attributes, including

241.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-1
242.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-2
243.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-3
244.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-4
245.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-5
246.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-6

seem not follow the above words.

Could it let to be decided by IANA?


Best Regards,
Leaf


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Leaf yeh wrote:
> Alan DeKok - Your question assumes that the input packet is edited to remove the attribute. This is not true. When the text says "discard the attribute", it means "ignore it".
> 
> Yes. 'Ignore' sounds better, but the question in technique seems still there. I guess the implementation might have some different treatment here:

  No.  The document describes the correct behavior.  There are no
implementation choices.

> 1. ignore the whole packet; then request the 2nd time; or
> 2. ignore the attributes followed this invalid attribute; or 
> 3. ignore only this invalid attribute, and delimit the next attribute per the 'length' field of this invalid attribute; 
> 
> Does the 3rd one means 'silently discard' in your text?

  Possibly.  I still don't understand why the text is unclear.  You're
focused on parsing the RADIUS packet.  The text about "invalid
attribute" is talking about the *attribute*, not the *packet*.

> Alan DeKok - The "invalid attribute" is correctly formed, so that the entire packet can be correctly decoded. The text says this explicitly.
> 
> Could you show me the explicit text in your draft mentioned above?

  The text which defines the "invalid attribute" term at the top of the
document.  It says that the Length field is valid, but the *Value* field
is wrong.  Since the Length field is valid, the packet can be parsed
correctly.  So the entire packet is correctly formed.

  Again, the term "invalid attribute" refers to the *Value* field of an
attribute.  It has nothing to do with parsing the packet.

  I really don't know how to make this any clearer.

  Alan DeKok.

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One more editorial on the title of the draft, remember someone express the same in the ML, I just repeat it here.

'Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) Protocol Extensions '

But RFC2869 has the title of 'RADIUS Extensions'. They looks very similarly.

How about to re-title your draft? My suggesting might be 'RADIUS Extension Plus on the Type Space of Attributes with more Data Types', just for your reference.


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One more argument on the text in section 9.1

'New allocations are
normally taken from the Extended Type space, starting with lower
numbered attributes.'

But the attributes, including

241.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-1
242.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-2
243.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-3
244.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-4
245.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-5
246.26  Extended-Vendor-Specific-6

seem not follow the above words.

Could it let to be decided by IANA?


Best Regards,
Leaf


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From: Alan DeKok [mailto:aland@deployingradius.com] 
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To: Leaf yeh
Cc: Bernard Aboba; radiusext@ops.ietf.org; fine_sz@huawei.com; Qiujin; Wangshuxiang; Qianguofeng
Subject: Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions-01

Leaf yeh wrote:
> Alan DeKok - Your question assumes that the input packet is edited to remove the attribute. This is not true. When the text says "discard the attribute", it means "ignore it".
> 
> Yes. 'Ignore' sounds better, but the question in technique seems still there. I guess the implementation might have some different treatment here:

  No.  The document describes the correct behavior.  There are no
implementation choices.

> 1. ignore the whole packet; then request the 2nd time; or
> 2. ignore the attributes followed this invalid attribute; or 
> 3. ignore only this invalid attribute, and delimit the next attribute per the 'length' field of this invalid attribute; 
> 
> Does the 3rd one means 'silently discard' in your text?

  Possibly.  I still don't understand why the text is unclear.  You're
focused on parsing the RADIUS packet.  The text about "invalid
attribute" is talking about the *attribute*, not the *packet*.

> Alan DeKok - The "invalid attribute" is correctly formed, so that the entire packet can be correctly decoded. The text says this explicitly.
> 
> Could you show me the explicit text in your draft mentioned above?

  The text which defines the "invalid attribute" term at the top of the
document.  It says that the Length field is valid, but the *Value* field
is wrong.  Since the Length field is valid, the packet can be parsed
correctly.  So the entire packet is correctly formed.

  Again, the term "invalid attribute" refers to the *Value* field of an
attribute.  It has nothing to do with parsing the packet.

  I really don't know how to make this any clearer.

  Alan DeKok.
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