From nobody Wed Mar 7 06:33:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605DE127522 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:33:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.23 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.23 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cnzkvQssB2P9 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64993124207 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 06:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 3C88E5F9F5F57; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:33:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FRAEMA703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.206.14.52) by LHREML712-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:33:44 +0000 Received: from FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.156]) by FRAEMA703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.161]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:33:40 +0100 From: AndreRein To: Henk Birkholz , DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA CC: "rats@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IETF draft for NFV remote attestation use-cases Thread-Index: AdO1XlUnpyEjbhbtQwSQfeuhhAN1fgAq7PMAAAMNkWA= Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:33:39 +0000 Message-ID: <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF1834712238E03C@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF1834712238DA62@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> <988ec038-3201-882c-f039-6672e552112c@sit.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <988ec038-3201-882c-f039-6672e552112c@sit.fraunhofer.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.161.131] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Rats] IETF draft for NFV remote attestation use-cases X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 14:33:48 -0000 Hello Henk, Please find my comments/answers/questions inline. > -----Original Message----- > From: Henk Birkholz [mailto:henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de] > Sent: Mittwoch, 7. M=E4rz 2018 13:47 > To: AndreRein ; DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA > > Cc: rats@ietf.org > Subject: Re: IETF draft for NFV remote attestation use-cases >=20 > Hello Andre, >=20 > cc'ing this reply to the rats list as this is an excellent focus point of= discussion. >=20 > A few initial questions: Is an RAIP an Attestor? With respect to... >=20 > > https://henkbirkholz.github.io/draft-birkholz-attestation-terminology/ > > draft-birkholz-attestation-terminology.html >=20 > Correspondingly, is a RAIC a Verifier? Yes, a RAIP is an Attestor and a RAIC is a Verifier in accordance with your= terminology >=20 > It seems that both could also be intermediate roles, as the Pre-Condition= s > sections states: "Relevant collected evidence (RA measurement information= ) > is available." The Attestor seems to include a component that is the actu= al > data source of evidence - is that a correct assumption? Also correct, the Attestor implements a component that collects the evidenc= e and offer this evidence to other systems. With regard to this, the draft used the term RAIP that shoul= d indicate this behaviour (which may not be obvious just from the term) >=20 > Typically, appraisal is about integrity. Are "RA appraisal information" > therefore "Reference Integrity Measurements" or is the intended scope > larger here? You are right, RA appraisal information corresponds to "Reference Integrity= Measurements". I introduced a different terms to avoid the overuse of the terms measuremen= t and attestation, which can sometimes=20 becomes ambiguous when talking about the "measurement process", "reference = measurements" and the "verification/appraisal process". Once we agree on a particular terminology we should update the draft accord= ingly. (I do explicitly not insist to adopt my terms; still, I suppose we should have some discussion about the termino= logy to avoid ambiguity and facilitate preciseness) >=20 > If evidence can be collected, it is implied that it can also be stored, I= t think. Is > freshness or recentness of evidence relevant to your use case? Yes, both freshness and recentness are requirements that are very relevant = in this case. >=20 > In general, the CSP is the "external entity" and the CSC is an "internal = entity" > if I understand that correctly? No, both the CSP and CSC are NFV-internal entities. Internal in this case m= eans that they are responsible for the operation of the infrastructure or services that are pr= ovided. In contrast to this, a CSU simply uses a service that is provided and is, t= herefore, considered as an external entity. More precisely, a CSU is a specific external entity. (I hope this makes any sense)=20 >=20 > Does your use case imply any specific characteristics for statements abou= t > appraisal? I'm not sure what you mean with characteristics. Can you elaborate what you= mean? >=20 > These are the first questions that come to mind. Probably, some answers a= re > more obvious than I think :-) >=20 > Viele Gr=FC=DFe, >=20 > Henk >=20 >=20 > On 03/06/2018 04:18 PM, AndreRein wrote: > > I just wanted to inform you that we (Frank Xialiang and me) submitted > > a draft to the IETF yesterday. > > > > You can find it here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rein-remote-attestation-nfv-use > > -cases/ > > From nobody Wed Mar 7 08:10:55 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E9212708C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 04:47:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ot2ch1tq3LWd for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 04:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-edgeS23.fraunhofer.de (mail-edges23.fraunhofer.de [153.97.7.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D131A12751F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 04:47:32 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2HZBQAl359a/xoBYJldGwEBAQEDAQEBC?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAYNQZgNtKAqbaIFQCyeBFpZJCieFCQKDCCE4FAECAQEBAQEBAgNoJ4UkAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAwEyAQVBBQsLGC5XBgEMAQcBAYUPBwEEDKpXhHKDdoIcBYUxgh0RgVeBZikMg?= =?us-ascii?q?niDLgIBAgGHWgSaZwmBAYENhEZ/iSWBbocoBYVkiX2HLAIEBgUCGQGBLjUigVJ?= =?us-ascii?q?NJE6CQ4RJdgGLDAGBFwEBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2HZBQAl359a/xoBYJldGwEBAQEDAQEBCQEBAYNQZgNtKAq?= =?us-ascii?q?baIFQCyeBFpZJCieFCQKDCCE4FAECAQEBAQEBAgNoJ4UkAQEBAwEyAQVBBQsLG?= =?us-ascii?q?C5XBgEMAQcBAYUPBwEEDKpXhHKDdoIcBYUxgh0RgVeBZikMgniDLgIBAgGHWgS?= =?us-ascii?q?aZwmBAYENhEZ/iSWBbocoBYVkiX2HLAIEBgUCGQGBLjUigVJNJE6CQ4RJdgGLD?= =?us-ascii?q?AGBFwEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.47,435,1515452400"; d="scan'208";a="2800577" Received: from mail-mtaka26.fraunhofer.de ([153.96.1.26]) by mail-edgeS23.fraunhofer.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Mar 2018 13:47:24 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.47,435,1515452400"; d="scan'208";a="14662652" Received: from mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de ([141.12.72.89]) by mail-mtaKA26.fraunhofer.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Mar 2018 13:47:23 +0100 Received: from mail.sit.fraunhofer.de (mail.sit.fraunhofer.de [141.12.84.171]) by mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id w27ClLsE026390 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 7 Mar 2018 13:47:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.16.50] (134.102.43.163) by mail.sit.fraunhofer.de (141.12.84.171) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.361.1; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 13:47:16 +0100 From: Henk Birkholz To: Andre Rein , DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA References: <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF1834712238DA62@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> CC: Message-ID: <988ec038-3201-882c-f039-6672e552112c@sit.fraunhofer.de> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 13:47:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF1834712238DA62@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [134.102.43.163] Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 08:10:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [Rats] IETF draft for NFV remote attestation use-cases X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:47:37 -0000 Hello Andre, cc'ing this reply to the rats list as this is an excellent focus point of discussion. A few initial questions: Is an RAIP an Attestor? With respect to... > https://henkbirkholz.github.io/draft-birkholz-attestation-terminology/draft-birkholz-attestation-terminology.html Correspondingly, is a RAIC a Verifier? It seems that both could also be intermediate roles, as the Pre-Conditions sections states: "Relevant collected evidence (RA measurement information) is available." The Attestor seems to include a component that is the actual data source of evidence - is that a correct assumption? Typically, appraisal is about integrity. Are "RA appraisal information" therefore "Reference Integrity Measurements" or is the intended scope larger here? If evidence can be collected, it is implied that it can also be stored, It think. Is freshness or recentness of evidence relevant to your use case? In general, the CSP is the "external entity" and the CSC is an "internal entity" if I understand that correctly? Does your use case imply any specific characteristics for statements about appraisal? These are the first questions that come to mind. Probably, some answers are more obvious than I think :-) Viele Grüße, Henk On 03/06/2018 04:18 PM, AndreRein wrote: > I just wanted to inform you that we (Frank Xialiang and me) submitted a > draft to the IETF yesterday. > > You can find it here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rein-remote-attestation-nfv-use-cases/ > From nobody Mon Mar 19 10:10:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02411275AB for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:10:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHwrrz4-sZ99 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EFE512D810 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D31C1CAE2F for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Vbpkl1ry80f for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (unknown [50.89.234.39]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5EC761CAE29 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Larson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:10:31 -0400 To: rats@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Archived-At: Subject: [Rats] Testing X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:10:35 -0000 This is a test, please ignore, and sorry for the wasted bandwidth. Matt ------------------------------------------- Matthew Larson, Software Engineer Association Management Solutions Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning 5177 Brandin Court Fremont, CA 94538 From nobody Mon Mar 19 10:13:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87826127286 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:13:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x5j7D3ZcorX5 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-edgeDD24.fraunhofer.de (mail-edgeDD24.fraunhofer.de [192.102.167.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E11C31275AB for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:13:53 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2G9AgD27q9a/xoHYZldGgEBAQEBAgEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEIAQEBAYNQZnIoCoNTmBeBTzSBFpYSCxgLgViDFQKDQCE4FAECAQEBAQEBAgN?= =?us-ascii?q?oKIUnAQEEAQEhFTYbCxgCAiYCAicgEAYNBgIBAReEfAULqRqCJoRug2qCCQWBD?= =?us-ascii?q?IQnghWBVYF8gniDHgEBgjKCPIJhA4dBkHUJfXaNN4FEEIN8gksFhRSQDgIEBgU?= =?us-ascii?q?CEwGBKjUigVJNJE6CQ5BsczGPDwGBFwEBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2G9AgD27q9a/xoHYZldGgEBAQEBAgEBAQEIAQEBAYNQZnI?= =?us-ascii?q?oCoNTmBeBTzSBFpYSCxgLgViDFQKDQCE4FAECAQEBAQEBAgNoKIUnAQEEAQEhF?= =?us-ascii?q?TYbCxgCAiYCAicgEAYNBgIBAReEfAULqRqCJoRug2qCCQWBDIQnghWBVYF8gni?= =?us-ascii?q?DHgEBgjKCPIJhA4dBkHUJfXaNN4FEEIN8gksFhRSQDgIEBgUCEwGBKjUigVJNJ?= =?us-ascii?q?E6CQ5BsczGPDwGBFwEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.48,331,1517871600"; d="scan'208";a="3263671" Received: from mail-mtas26.fraunhofer.de ([153.97.7.26]) by mail-edgeDD24.fraunhofer.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Mar 2018 18:13:45 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.48,331,1517871600"; d="scan'208";a="25923962" Received: from mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de ([141.12.72.89]) by mail-mtaS26.fraunhofer.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Mar 2018 18:13:45 +0100 Received: from mail.sit.fraunhofer.de (mail.sit.fraunhofer.de [141.12.84.171]) by mailext.sit.fraunhofer.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id w2JHDhlS015644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:13:44 +0100 Received: from [31.133.136.126] (31.133.136.126) by mail.sit.fraunhofer.de (141.12.84.171) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.389.1; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:13:41 +0100 To: References: From: Henk Birkholz Message-ID: <5e20a75c-4ab8-4fb4-7a5c-6df6e3f3c8b8@sit.fraunhofer.de> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:13:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [31.133.136.126] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Rats] Testing X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:13:57 -0000 This seem to work now :o) Anyone else got this? If there are a few replies, then our list issue is resolved (or resolved itself?). Cheers, Henk On 03/19/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Larson wrote: > This is a test, please ignore, and sorry for the wasted bandwidth. > > Matt > > > ------------------------------------------- > Matthew Larson, Software Engineer > Association Management Solutions > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > 5177 Brandin Court > Fremont, CA 94538 > > _______________________________________________ > Rats mailing list > Rats@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats > From nobody Mon Mar 19 10:21:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9EE12D878 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:21:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.23 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.23 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MqkMitZQIiyj for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC77B128959 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id E90303FCA7C49; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:20:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FRAEMA706-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.206.14.55) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:20:57 +0000 Received: from FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.156]) by FRAEMA706-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.118]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:20:56 +0100 From: AndreRein To: Henk Birkholz , "rats@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Rats] Testing Thread-Index: AQHTv6U4Et9Sw7akvkyI84K5LwFvP6PXuzOAgAASjxA= Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:20:56 +0000 Message-ID: <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF18347122392D20@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <5e20a75c-4ab8-4fb4-7a5c-6df6e3f3c8b8@sit.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <5e20a75c-4ab8-4fb4-7a5c-6df6e3f3c8b8@sit.fraunhofer.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.161.131] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Rats] Testing X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:21:03 -0000 Received. My apologies for the bandwidth use. :) BR, Andre > -----Original Message----- > From: Rats [mailto:rats-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henk Birkholz > Sent: Montag, 19. M=E4rz 2018 18:14 > To: rats@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Rats] Testing >=20 > This seem to work now :o) >=20 > Anyone else got this? If there are a few replies, then our list issue is = resolved > (or resolved itself?). >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Henk >=20 > On 03/19/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Larson wrote: > > This is a test, please ignore, and sorry for the wasted bandwidth. > > > > Matt > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > Matthew Larson, Software Engineer > > Association Management Solutions > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > > 5177 Brandin Court > > Fremont, CA 94538 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rats mailing list > > Rats@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Rats mailing list > Rats@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats From nobody Tue Mar 20 00:37:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A39F126D05 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 00:37:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.231 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.231 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FXfwsw7NwTfT for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 00:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34997120724 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 00:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 96910B94C967E; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:37:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FRAEMA707-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.206.14.56) by lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:37:51 +0000 Received: from FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.156]) by FRAEMA707-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.242]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Tue, 20 Mar 2018 08:37:44 +0100 From: Michael Eckel To: AndreRein , Henk Birkholz , "rats@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Rats] Testing Thread-Index: AQHTv6U42oSjYApKLUe9vHIZf0TNraPXuzOAgAACBgCAAP/6YA== Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:37:44 +0000 Message-ID: <072FE6FAB355A64E8A0A3E74B5EA368134C41840@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <5e20a75c-4ab8-4fb4-7a5c-6df6e3f3c8b8@sit.fraunhofer.de> <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF18347122392D20@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <6BA94F08BDCB8E44B30675B3FF18347122392D20@FRAEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.162.193] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Rats] Testing X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:37:55 -0000 PONG Cheers, Michael Michael Eckel Security Engineer Cyber Security & Privacy Protection Laboratory (CSPL) Huawei Technologies Duesseldorf GmbH Munich Research Center Feldbergstra=DFe 78, 64293 Darmstadt/Germany Email:=A0michael.eckel@huawei.com Mobile:=A0+49 (162) 2108662 HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES Duesseldorf GmbH Hansaallee 205, 40549 D=FCsseldorf, Germany,=A0www.huawei.com Registered Office: D=FCsseldorf, Register Court D=FCsseldorf, HRB 56063, Managing Director: Jingwen TAO, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN Sitz der Gesellschaft: D=FCsseldorf, Amtsgericht D=FCsseldorf, HRB 56063, Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer: Jingwen TAO, Wanzhou MENG, Lifang CHEN -----Original Message----- From: Rats [mailto:rats-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of AndreRein Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 18:21 To: Henk Birkholz ; rats@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Rats] Testing Received. My apologies for the bandwidth use. :) BR, Andre > -----Original Message----- > From: Rats [mailto:rats-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henk Birkholz > Sent: Montag, 19. M=E4rz 2018 18:14 > To: rats@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Rats] Testing >=20 > This seem to work now :o) >=20 > Anyone else got this? If there are a few replies, then our list issue=20 > is resolved (or resolved itself?). >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Henk >=20 > On 03/19/2018 06:10 PM, Matt Larson wrote: > > This is a test, please ignore, and sorry for the wasted bandwidth. > > > > Matt > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > > Matthew Larson, Software Engineer > > Association Management Solutions > > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > > 5177 Brandin Court > > Fremont, CA 94538 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rats mailing list > > Rats@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Rats mailing list > Rats@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats _______________________________________________ Rats mailing list Rats@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats