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Dear all,

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Name:           draft-maeurer-raw-ldacs
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Title:          L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS)
Document date:  2020-03-06
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Pages:          18
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   secure, scalable and spectrum efficient terrestrial data link for
   civil aviation.  LDACS is a scheduled, reliable multi-application
   cellular broadband system with support for IPv6.

                                                                                 

Regards,
Corinna, Nils and Thomas



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Research Institute CODE
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Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39
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Dr. Corinna Schmitt
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Werner-Heisenberg-Weg 39
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Dear Rick Taylor,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 


    raw Session 1 (2:00 requested)
    Tuesday, 24 March 2020, Session I 2000-2200
    Room Name: Virtual Track 2 size: None
    ---------------------------------------------


iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/sessions/raw.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: Reliable and Available Wireless
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Rick Taylor

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2 Hours
Number of Attendees: 30
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 Chair Conflict: dtn coinrg
 Technology Overlap: lpwan manet detnet 6tisch
 Key Participant Conflict: netmod netconf


People who must be present:
  Rick Taylor
  Eve Schooler
  Deborah Brungard

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Hi All,

Just to let you all know that RAW will be holding a virtual meeting via Web=
Ex, at 20:00 UTC on Tuesday 24th March, and it would be great if everyone w=
ho was planning to attend the 107 session in person or remotely could join =
us.

The agenda for the virtual IETF meeting, including the link to the session =
WebEx is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda

We still have space in the agenda for anyone who has a topic of interest, p=
lease contact the chairs at raw-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:raw-chairs@ietf.org>=
 to request some time.

We hope to hear you all next Tuesday,

Cheers,

Rick and Eve,
Co-chairs.



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Hi Rick,
thank you for the invite. I've checked the IETF-107 agenda page and got a
technical question. Webex meetings usually have the meeting number and the
password assigned. Would that information be available before the meeting?

Regards,
Greg

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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Just to let you all know that RAW will be holding a virtual meeting via
> WebEx, at 20:00 UTC on Tuesday 24th March, and it would be great if
> everyone who was planning to attend the 107 session in person or remotely
> could join us.
>
>
>
> The agenda for the virtual IETF meeting, including the link to the session
> WebEx is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda
>
>
>
> We still have space in the agenda for anyone who has a topic of interest,
> please contact the chairs at raw-chairs@ietf.org to request some time.
>
>
>
> We hope to hear you all next Tuesday,
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Rick and Eve,
>
> Co-chairs.
>
>
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ually have the meeting number and the password assigned. Would that informa=
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v><div>Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:25 AM Rick Taylor &lt;<a href=
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a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The agenda for the virtual IETF meeting, including t=
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<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda" target=3D"_blan=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick and Eve,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Co-chairs.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Greg:

Hi!

Yes, that information is already there.

Just click the link on the html version of the agenda.  The txt version has
all the details.

Alvaro.

On March 19, 2020 at 3:19:19 PM, Greg Mirsky (gregimirsky@gmail.com) wrote:

thank you for the invite. I've checked the IETF-107 agenda page and got a
technical question. Webex meetings usually have the meeting number and the
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Got it! Thanks!

Regards,
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:52 PM Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Greg:
>
> Hi!
>
> Yes, that information is already there.
>
> Just click the link on the html version of the agenda.  The txt version
> has all the details.
>
> Alvaro.
>
> On March 19, 2020 at 3:19:19 PM, Greg Mirsky (gregimirsky@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> thank you for the invite. I've checked the IETF-107 agenda page and got a
> technical question. Webex meetings usually have the meeting number and the
> password assigned. Would that information be available before the meeting?
>
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Tuesday, March 24, 2020
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Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options, maybe
the following document is an interesting document:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-problems/

Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i think
thts very limiting.

Cheers
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Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting doc. I'll
take a new look at it.

Carlos

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options, maybe
> the following document is an interesting document:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-problems/
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> Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i think
> thts very limiting.
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> Cheers
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that inter=
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@c=
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the following document is an interesting document:<br>
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Hi Carlos,

we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the
manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be
useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of wireless
in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the industrial
wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the findings we did. This
can help to narrow down the document and focus into realistic needs.

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476

I hope this is useful!
regards
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> Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting doc. I'l=
l
> take a new look at it.
>
> Carlos
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>
>> Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options, maybe
>> the following document is an interesting document:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-problem=
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>>
>> Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i think
>> thts very limiting.
>>
>> Cheers
>>     Toerless
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Carlos,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>we performed a study o=
n the level of adoption of wireless in the manufacturing industry. I think =
that the results of such study can be useful to properly settle and scope t=
he uses and requirements of wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encou=
rage you to check the industrial wireless use case in the draft and contras=
t it to the findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and =
focus into realistic needs.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://iee=
explore.ieee.org/document/8703476">https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/870=
3476</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this is useful!</div><div>re=
gards</div><div>X</div><div>=C2=A0<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNAR=
DOS CANO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es">cjbc@it.uc3m.es</a>&gt; del=
 dia dt., 24 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:39:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Toerless. I think I rea=
d some version of that interesting doc. I&#39;ll take a new look at it.<div=
><br></div><div>Carlos</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Ecke=
rt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.fau.de" target=3D"_blank">tte@cs.fau.de</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Wrt =
to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options, maybe<br>
the following document is an interesting document:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast=
-problems/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-problems/</a><br>
<br>
Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond &quot;requirements&quot; i th=
ink<br>
thts very limiting.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Toerless<br>
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You should do a parallel study regarding emergency services.  In this
case it's not one of use of wireless -- already ubiquitous -- but  a
needs study for internetwork technology to facilitate increased
automation.  Reliability is a foundation requirement.


On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 21:47 +0100, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen wrote:
> Hi Carlos, 
> 
> we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the
> manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be
> useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of
> wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the
> industrial wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the
> findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and focus
> into realistic needs.
> 
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476 
> 
> I hope this is useful!
> regards
> X
>  
> 
> Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> del dia
> dt., 24 de març 2020 a les 21:39:
> > Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting
> > doc. I'll take a new look at it.
> > 
> > Carlos
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
> > wrote:
> > > Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options,
> > > maybe
> > > the following document is an interesting document:
> > > 
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-
> > > problems/
> > > 
> > > Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i
> > > think
> > > thts very limiting.
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > >     Toerless
> > > 
> > > -- 
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> > > Raw@ietf.org
> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raw
> > > 
> > -- 
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Hi All,
Here's the Bluesheet captured on the Etherpad. And we found the list of ina=
dvertently deleted names, recovered when we used the timeslider feature! Ho=
wever if you participated in today's session, please doublecheck that your =
name appears below. If not, please add your name to the Etherpad: https://e=
therpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-raw. Or send your name to mtd@ietf.org<ma=
ilto:mtd@ietf.org> (and let them know you were listening to RAW).
THANK YOU again to notetakers, presenters, folks who asked questions, provi=
ded answers, etc.
Rick and Eve


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     Bluesheet - Sign with your name and affiliation
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Rick Taylor                                 Airbus
Eve Schooler                                Intel
Ole Tr=F8an                                   cisco
Adrian Farrel                               Old Dog Consulting
Andy Malis                                  Malis Consulting
Ronald in 't Velt                           TNO
Stuart W. Card                              Critical Technologies Inc.
Dominique Barthel                           Orange Labs
tim costello                                BT
Hirochika Asai                              Preferred Networks / WIDE Proje=
ct
John Border                                 Hughes
Thomas Gr=E4upl                               German Aerospace Center (DLR)
Nils M=E4urer                                 German Aerospace Center (DLR)
Glenn Parsons                               Ericsson
Corinna Schmitt              RI CODE, UniBwM
Pascal Thubert                      Cisco
Amelia Andersdotter                         CENTR
Mark McFadden, internet policy advisors ltd
Dave Allan                                  Ericsson
Xavier Vilajosana                           Open University of Catalonia
Fabrice Theoleyre                           CNRS
Christer Holmberg                           Ericsson
Carlos J. Bernardos              UC3M
John Kaippallimalil                        Futurewei
J=E1nos Farkas Ericsson
Bal=E1zs Varga Ericsson
Quan Xiong                              ZTE
Ethan Grossman                             Dolby Labs
Diego Dujovne                               Universidad Diego Portales
Karl Kathuria                           Internews
Peter Yee                       AKAYLA
Toerless Eckert                          Futurewei
Georgios Z. PAPADOPOULOS   IMT Atlantique, Rennes, France
Bob Hinden / Check Point Software
Dave Sinicrope       Ericsson
Lou Berger                                LabN
Stewart Bryant Stewart Bryant Ltd (I am sure I did this earlier - did some =
names get removed?)  YES.
Abdussalam Baryun     University of Tripoli
Carsten Bormann, TZI
Yuji Tochio                                Fujitsu
Melchior Aelmans                          Juniper Networks
Adam Wiethuechter                AX Enterprize, LLC
Jeremy Austin                               Alaska Communications
Deborah Brungard AT&T
Mitsuaki Hatano
Tom Kapela
Torsten Dudda Ericsson
Kang Lee, NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology)
Waqar Zia           Qualcomm
Shahwaiz Afaqui       Open University of Catalonia
Florin Baboescu    Broadcom
Vishnu Pavan Beeram       Juniper Networks
Linda Dunbar FutureweiInda


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Nicolas KUHN                 CNES
Klaus Hartke                                Ericsson
Russ Housley - Vigil Security LLC
Florin Baboescu Broadcom
Carsten Bormann, TZI
Alvaro Retana                               Futurewei
Deborah Brungard AT&T
Yuji Tochio                                 Fujitsu
Waqar Zia                           Qualcomm
Kang Lee, NIST
Stewart Bryant                           Stewart Bryant Ltd
Adam Wiethuechter                        AX Enterprize, LLC
Bal=E1zs Varga   Ericsson
Eric Gray Ericsson
Abdussalam Baryun           University of Tripoli



Eve M. Schooler, PhD
Principal Engineer & Director
Intel | NGS & IoTG | Emerging IoT Networks
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here&#8217;s the Bluesheet captured on the Etherpad.=
 <span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">
And we found the list of inadvertently deleted names, recovered when we use=
d the timeslider feature!</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">However if you participated in=
 today&#8217;s session, please doublecheck that your name appears below.</s=
pan>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">If not, please add your name t=
o the Etherpad:
<a href=3D"https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-raw">https://etherpad=
.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-raw</a></span>.
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Or send your name to <a href=
=3D"mailto:mtd@ietf.org">
mtd@ietf.org</a> (and let them know you were listening to RAW).</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">THANK YOU again to notetakers, presenters, folks who=
 asked questions, provided answers, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick and Eve<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DEF0E2">***********************=
***********************************************</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DEF0E2">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; Bluesheet - Sign with your name and affiliation</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DEF0E2">***********************=
***********************************************</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#CCD9FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#99B3FF">Rick Taylor&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Airbus</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#BCE2E7">Eve Schooler&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFA8A8">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:black;background:#BCE2E7">Intel</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFA8A8">Ole Tr=F8an&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cisco</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#F2F2A6">Adrian Farrel&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Old Dog Consulting</span><span style=3D"font-size:=
9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#BCE1C5">Andy Malis&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Malis Consulting</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:blac=
k"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#C1C9E2">Ronald in 't Velt&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; TNO</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E3FFC7">Stuart W. Card&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Critical Technologies Inc.</span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#EFA70D">Dominique Barthel&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Orange Labs</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#C7D5FF">tim costello&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BT</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#F0F0A8">Hirochika Asai&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Preferred Networks / WIDE Project</span><span style=3D"=
font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:white;background:#D722BB">John Border&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hughes</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#C1E2E2">Thomas Gr=E4upl&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:black;background:#ECECBB">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black;background:#C1E2E2">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#ECECBB=
">German
 Aerospace Center (</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#C1E2E2">DLR</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:black;background:#ECECBB">)</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#ECECBB">Nils M=E4urer&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; German Aerospace Center (DLR)</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#A3FFFF">Glenn Parsons&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ericsson</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E9DCAF">Corinna Schmitt&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
RI CODE, UniBwM</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helv=
etica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E9AFC2">Pascal Thubert&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cisco</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DAF0B2">Amelia Andersdotter=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CENTR=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFE699">Mark McFadden, inte=
rnet policy advisors ltd</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#CCE2BB">Dave Allan&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ericsson</span><span style=3D"font-=
size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E9CECE">Xavier Vilajosana&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Open University of Catalonia</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E0BDD9">Fabrice Theoleyre&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; CNRS</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#ADC6EB">Christer Holmberg&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; Ericsson</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvet=
ica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; UC3M</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#99FFB3">John Kaippallimalil=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Futurewei</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#B1E7E7">Bal=E1zs Varga Eric=
sson</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#CCE2BB">Quan Xiong&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ZTE</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#BEDAD1">Ethan Grossman&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dolby Labs</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#AEAEEA">Diego Dujovne&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Universidad Diego Portales</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#C4E7B1">Karl Kathuria&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 Internews</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#F2F2A6">Peter Yee&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; AKAYLA</span><span style=3D=
"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DAF0B2">Toerless Eckert&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fut=
urewei</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#B0A0FD">Georgios Z. PAPADOP=
OULOS&nbsp;&nbsp; IMT Atlantique, Rennes, France</span><span style=3D"font-=
size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#AEAEEA">Bob Hinden / Check =
Point Software</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helve=
tica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#A3FFFF">Dave Sinicrope&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ericsson</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#BCE2E7">Lou Berger&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LabN</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E0BDD9">Stewart Bryant Stew=
art Bryant Ltd (I am sure I did this earlier - did some names get removed?)=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:black;background:#99FFB3">&nbsp;
 YES.</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#AEAEEA">Abdussalam Baryun&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; University of Tripoli</span><span style=3D"font-size=
:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#99FFB3">Carsten Bormann, TZ=
I</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#B1D5E7">Yuji Tochio&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fujitsu</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFC7F1">Melchior Aelmans&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ju=
niper Networks</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helve=
tica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DEE9AF">Adam Wiethuechter&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; AX Enterprize, LLC</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#EEC3E6">Jeremy Austin&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Alaska Communications</span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFA8A8">Deborah Brungard AT=
&amp;T&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#B3B3E6">Mitsuaki Hatano</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-se=
rif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E9AFC2">Tom Kapela</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#B1D5E7">Torsten Dudda Erics=
son</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFF1C7">Kang Lee, NIST (Nat=
ional Institute of Standards and Technology)</span><span style=3D"font-size=
:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#E0BDD9">Waqar Zia&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Qualcomm</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:bl=
ack"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#DEE9AF">Shahwaiz Afaqui&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Open University of Catalonia</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#EC9AFE">Florin Baboescu&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Broadcom</span><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#BCE2E7">Vishnu Pavan Beeram=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Juniper Networks</span><span style=3D"=
font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Linda Dunbar FutureweiInda&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">@@@Recovered names...@@@<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Wim henderickx&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Nokia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Nicolas KUHN&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CNES=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Klaus Hartke&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Ericsson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Russ Housley - Vigil Security LLC<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Florin Baboescu Broadcom<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Carsten Bormann, TZI<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Alvaro Retana&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Futurewei<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Deborah Brungard AT&amp;T<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Yuji Tochio&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fujitsu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Waqar Zia&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Qualcomm<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Kang Lee, NIST<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Stewart Bryant&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Stewart Bryant Lt=
d<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Adam Wiethuechter&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; AX Enterprize, LLC<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Bal=E1zs Varga&nbsp;&nbsp; Ericsson<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Eric Gray Ericsson<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Abdussalam Baryun&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; University of Tripoli<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#CCD9FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
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al&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:#CCD9FF"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Eve M. Schooler, PhD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Principal Engineer &amp; Director<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Intel | NGS &amp; IoTG | Emerging IoT Networks<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2200 Mission College Blvd., Santa Clara, CA, USA&nbs=
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Thanks a lot Xavi for this very interesting reference. I was not aware of
it. I'll check it!

Thanks,

Carlos

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:47 PM Xavi Vilajosana Guillen <xvilajosana@uoc.ed=
u>
wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the
> manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be
> useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of wireless
> in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the industrial
> wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the findings we did. Th=
is
> can help to narrow down the document and focus into realistic needs.
>
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476
>
> I hope this is useful!
> regards
> X
>
>
> Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> del dia dt., 24
> de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:39:
>
>> Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting doc.
>> I'll take a new look at it.
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options, maybe
>>> the following document is an interesting document:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-proble=
ms/
>>>
>>> Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i think
>>> thts very limiting.
>>>
>>> Cheers
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks a lot Xavi for this very interesting reference. I w=
as not aware of it. I&#39;ll check it!<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div=
><br></div><div>Carlos</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:47 PM Xavi Vilajosa=
na Guillen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xvilajosana@uoc.edu">xvilajosana@uoc.edu</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Hi Carlos,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>we performed a study on =
the level of adoption of wireless in the manufacturing industry. I think th=
at the results of such study can be useful to properly settle and scope the=
 uses and requirements of wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encoura=
ge you to check the industrial wireless use case in the draft and contrast =
it to the findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and fo=
cus into realistic needs.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://ieeex=
plore.ieee.org/document/8703476" target=3D"_blank">https://ieeexplore.ieee.=
org/document/8703476</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this is usef=
ul!</div><div>regards</div><div>X</div><div>=C2=A0<br></div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de CAR=
LOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es" target=3D"_=
blank">cjbc@it.uc3m.es</a>&gt; del dia dt., 24 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:3=
9:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting doc. I=
&#39;ll take a new look at it.<div><br></div><div>Carlos</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 2=
4, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.fau.de" tar=
get=3D"_blank">tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs.=
 solution options, maybe<br>
the following document is an interesting document:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast=
-problems/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-problems/</a><br>
<br>
Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond &quot;requirements&quot; i th=
ink<br>
thts very limiting.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Toerless<br>
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Hi Rex,

Do you know where we can get information about emergency services and the
implications of wireless and raw? I know some people in the sector, but not
with the background required for this. If you can provide me with some
pointers or propose someone we can contact that would be great.

Thanks,

Carlos

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:21 PM Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You should do a parallel study regarding emergency services.  In this
> case it's not one of use of wireless -- already ubiquitous -- but  a
> needs study for internetwork technology to facilitate increased
> automation.  Reliability is a foundation requirement.
>
>
> On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 21:47 +0100, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen wrote:
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the
> > manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be
> > useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of
> > wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the
> > industrial wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the
> > findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and focus
> > into realistic needs.
> >
> > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476
> >
> > I hope this is useful!
> > regards
> > X
> >
> >
> > Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> del dia
> > dt., 24 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:39:
> > > Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting
> > > doc. I'll take a new look at it.
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options,
> > > > maybe
> > > > the following document is an interesting document:
> > > >
> > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-
> > > > problems/
> > > >
> > > > Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i
> > > > think
> > > > thts very limiting.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >     Toerless
> > > >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Rex,<div><br></div><div>Do you know where we can get in=
formation about emergency services and the implications of wireless and raw=
? I know some people in the sector, but not with the background required fo=
r this. If you can provide me with some pointers or propose someone we can =
contact that would be great.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br=
></div><div>Carlos</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:21 PM Rex Buddenberg &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:buddenbergr@gmail.com">buddenbergr@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You should d=
o a parallel study regarding emergency services.=C2=A0 In this<br>
case it&#39;s not one of use of wireless -- already ubiquitous -- but =C2=
=A0a<br>
needs study for internetwork technology to facilitate increased<br>
automation.=C2=A0 Reliability is a foundation requirement.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 21:47 +0100, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Carlos,=C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the<br>
&gt; manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be<=
br>
&gt; useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of<br>
&gt; wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the<b=
r>
&gt; industrial wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the<br>
&gt; findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and focus<b=
r>
&gt; into realistic needs.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476</a>=C2=
=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I hope this is useful!<br>
&gt; regards<br>
&gt; X<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.=
uc3m.es" target=3D"_blank">cjbc@it.uc3m.es</a>&gt; del dia<br>
&gt; dt., 24 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:39:<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting<=
br>
&gt; &gt; doc. I&#39;ll take a new look at it.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Carlos<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:tte@cs.fau.de" target=3D"_blank">tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution opt=
ions,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; maybe<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; the following document is an interesting document:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mbone=
d-ieee802-mcast-" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; problems/<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond &quot;requirem=
ents&quot; i<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; think<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; thts very limiting.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Toerless<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
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Hi Rute,

Thanks for the references. I'll take a look at them.

And sure, all help is welcome in the use cases.

Thanks,

Carlos

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:26 AM Rute Sofia <sofia@fortiss.org> wrote:

> Hello Carlos,
>
>
>
> in emergency services, another aspect to consider is handling intermitten=
t
> connectivity=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> For use-cases, see:
>
>
>
> http://umobile-project.eu/overview
>
>
> http://umobile-project.eu/deliverables?download=3D3:d-2-1-end-user-requir=
ements-report&start=3D20
>
>
>
> Any questions, let me know.
>
> I would also like to cooperate in regards to industrial scenarios
> involving wireless. So I am currently checking the use-case draft and wil=
l
> get back to you on this.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rute Sofia
>
>
>
> *From:* RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS
> CANO
> *Sent:* 25 March 2020 10:17
> *To:* Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* raw@ietf.org; Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>; Xavi Vilajosana
> Guillen <xvilajosana@uoc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Raw] raw: possible interesting reference
>
>
>
> Hi Rex,
>
>
>
> Do you know where we can get information about emergency services and the
> implications of wireless and raw? I know some people in the sector, but n=
ot
> with the background required for this. If you can provide me with some
> pointers or propose someone we can contact that would be great.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:21 PM Rex Buddenberg <buddenbergr@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You should do a parallel study regarding emergency services.  In this
> case it's not one of use of wireless -- already ubiquitous -- but  a
> needs study for internetwork technology to facilitate increased
> automation.  Reliability is a foundation requirement.
>
>
> On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 21:47 +0100, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen wrote:
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the
> > manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be
> > useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of
> > wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the
> > industrial wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the
> > findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and focus
> > into realistic needs.
> >
> > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476
> >
> > I hope this is useful!
> > regards
> > X
> >
> >
> > Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> del dia
> > dt., 24 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:39:
> > > Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting
> > > doc. I'll take a new look at it.
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution options,
> > > > maybe
> > > > the following document is an interesting document:
> > > >
> > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-
> > > > problems/
> > > >
> > > > Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond "requirements" i
> > > > think
> > > > thts very limiting.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >     Toerless
> > > >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Rute,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the references. I&#=
39;ll take a look at them.</div><div><br></div><div>And sure, all help is w=
elcome in the use cases.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Carlos</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:26 AM Rute Sofia &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:sofia@fortiss.org">sofia@fortiss.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"DE">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_120211080924998543WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hello Carlos,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">in emergency services, anothe=
r aspect to consider is handling intermittent connectivity=E2=80=A6<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For use-cases, see:
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href=3D"http://umobile-pro=
ject.eu/overview" target=3D"_blank">http://umobile-project.eu/overview</a><=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href=3D"http://umobile-pro=
ject.eu/deliverables?download=3D3:d-2-1-end-user-requirements-report&amp;st=
art=3D20" target=3D"_blank">http://umobile-project.eu/deliverables?download=
=3D3:d-2-1-end-user-requirements-report&amp;start=3D20</a><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Any questions, let me know.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I would also like to cooperat=
e in regards to industrial scenarios involving wireless. So I am currently =
checking the use-case
 draft and will get back to you on this.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Rute Sofia<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> RAW &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ra=
w-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">raw-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 March 2020 10:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Rex Buddenberg &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:buddenbergr@gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">buddenbergr@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:raw@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">raw@ietf.org</=
a>; Toerless Eckert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.fau.de" target=3D"_blank">=
tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt;; Xavi Vilajosana Guillen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xvilaj=
osana@uoc.edu" target=3D"_blank">xvilajosana@uoc.edu</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Raw] raw: possible interesting reference<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Rex,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do you know where we can get information about emerg=
ency services and the implications of wireless and raw? I know some people =
in the sector, but not with the background required for this. If you can pr=
ovide me with some pointers or propose
 someone we can contact that would be great.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Carlos<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:21 PM Rex Buddenberg &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:buddenbergr@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">buddenbergr@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You should do a parallel study regarding emergency s=
ervices.=C2=A0 In this<br>
case it&#39;s not one of use of wireless -- already ubiquitous -- but =C2=
=A0a<br>
needs study for internetwork technology to facilitate increased<br>
automation.=C2=A0 Reliability is a foundation requirement.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 21:47 +0100, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Carlos,=C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; we performed a study on the level of adoption of wireless in the<br>
&gt; manufacturing industry. I think that the results of such study can be<=
br>
&gt; useful to properly settle and scope the uses and requirements of<br>
&gt; wireless in the manufacturing industry. I encourage you to check the<b=
r>
&gt; industrial wireless use case in the draft and contrast it to the<br>
&gt; findings we did. This can help to narrow down the document and focus<b=
r>
&gt; into realistic needs.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8703476</a>=C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I hope this is useful!<br>
&gt; regards<br>
&gt; X<br>
&gt; =C2=A0<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.=
uc3m.es" target=3D"_blank">cjbc@it.uc3m.es</a>&gt; del dia<br>
&gt; dt., 24 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 21:39:<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks Toerless. I think I read some version of that interesting<=
br>
&gt; &gt; doc. I&#39;ll take a new look at it.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Carlos<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:33 PM Toerless Eckert &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:tte@cs.fau.de" target=3D"_blank">tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Wrt to my comments on the mike requirements vs. solution opt=
ions,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; maybe<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; the following document is an interesting document:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mbone=
d-ieee802-mcast-" target=3D"_blank">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-ieee802-mcast-</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; problems/<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Maybe rething scoping of the doc to go beyond &quot;requirem=
ents&quot; i<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; think<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; thts very limiting.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Toerless<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; --=C2=A0<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Raw mailing list<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href=3D"mailto:Raw@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">Raw@ietf.o=
rg</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raw" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raw</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; --=C2=A0<br>
&gt; &gt; Raw mailing list<br>
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&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raw" target=3D"_=
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Please consider the following before you respond:

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The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03<https://datatracker.ietf.o=
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This is your opportunity to express your opinion.

A decision will be made on/after 13th April.

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Cheers,

Rick


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My personal opinion:

+1 for adoption.

Rick

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+1 for adoption

Am 30.03.20 um 12:19 schrieb Rick Taylor:
> My personal opinion:
>
> +1 for adoption.
>
> Rick
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: 30 March 2020 11:15
> > To: Rick Taylor; raw@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
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> > Hi All,
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> > My apologies for the html format of the last email (blame Outlook).
> >
> > The link to the draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-
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> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rick
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            +1 for adoption.<br>
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            Rick<br>
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            &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
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            &gt; Subject: RE: Call for adoption of
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            &gt; Hi All,<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; My apologies for the html format of the last email
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            &gt; Cheers,<br>
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+1 for adoption

Am 30.03.20 um 12:19 schrieb Rick Taylor:
> My personal opinion:
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> +1 for adoption.
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> Rick
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> > Subject: RE: Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
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> > Hi All,
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> > My apologies for the html format of the last email (blame Outlook).
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> > The link to the draft is:
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            Rick<br>
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            &gt; Hi All,<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; My apologies for the html format of the last email
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This is a very important starting point. +1 for adoption too.

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Missatge de Dr. Corinna Schmitt <corinna.schmitt@unibw.de> del dia dl., 30
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> +1 for adoption
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> Am 30.03.20 um 12:19 schrieb Rick Taylor:
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> My personal opinion:
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> +1 for adoption.
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> Rick
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Subject: RE: Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
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> > Hi All,
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> > My apologies for the html format of the last email (blame Outlook).
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> > The link to the draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-
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> > Cheers,
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> > Rick
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This is a very important starting point.=C2=A0+1 for adopt=
ion too.<div><br></div><div>X</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de Dr. Corinna Schmitt &lt;<a h=
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          <div>My personal opinion:<br>
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            +1 for adoption.<br>
            <br>
            Rick<br>
            <br>
            &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
            &gt; From: Rick Taylor<br>
            &gt; Sent: 30 March 2020 11:15<br>
            &gt; To: Rick Taylor; <a href=3D"mailto:raw@ietf.org" target=3D=
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            &gt; Subject: RE: Call for adoption of
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            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Hi All,<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; My apologies for the html format of the last email
            (blame Outlook).<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; The link to the draft is: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.i=
etf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.iet=
f.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-</a><br>
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            &gt; Cheers,<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Rick<br>
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+1 from my side.
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> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:54, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen =
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> This is a very important starting point. +1 for adoption too.
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> Am 30.03.20 um 12:19 schrieb Rick Taylor:
>> My personal opinion:
>>=20
>> +1 for adoption.
>>=20
>> Rick
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Rick Taylor
>> > Sent: 30 March 2020 11:15
>> > To: Rick Taylor; raw@ietf.org <mailto:raw@ietf.org>
>> > Subject: RE: Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
>> >=20
>> > Hi All,
>> >=20
>> > My apologies for the html format of the last email (blame Outlook).
>> >=20
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class=3D"">+1 from my side.<div class=3D"">Georgios</div><div =
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:54, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:xvilajosana@uoc.edu" class=3D"">xvilajosana@uoc.edu</a>&gt;=
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dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">This is a very important starting point.&nbsp;+1 =
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class=3D"">X</div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de Dr. Corinna Schmitt &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">corinna.schmitt@unibw.de</a>&gt; del dia dl., 30 de mar=C3=A7 =
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            Rick<br class=3D"">
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            &gt; -----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">
            &gt; From: Rick Taylor<br class=3D"">
            &gt; Sent: 30 March 2020 11:15<br class=3D"">
            &gt; To: Rick Taylor; <a href=3D"mailto:raw@ietf.org" =
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            &gt; Subject: RE: Call for adoption of
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            &gt; <br class=3D"">
            &gt; Hi All,<br class=3D"">
            &gt; <br class=3D"">
            &gt; My apologies for the html format of the last email
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            &gt; <br class=3D"">
            &gt; The link to the draft is: <a =
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I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure and con=
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01
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> Hi All,
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> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a call=
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> working group adoption of their draft.
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> The link to the draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyr=
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> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
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> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
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+1 as co-author.

Georgios


> On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) =
<pthubert=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>=20
> I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure =
and content.
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
>> Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14
>> To: raw@ietf.org
>> Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of =
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>>=20
>> Hi All,
>>=20
>> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a =
call for
>> working group adoption of their draft.
>>=20
>> The link to the draft is: =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-
>> oam-support/
>>=20
>> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>>=20
>> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Rick and Eve
>> Co-chairs
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From: Lijo Thomas <lijo@cdac.in>
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I support the adoption of the draft

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Lijo Thomas


On March 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)"
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> > > >           > The link to the draft is:
> > > >           > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-
> > > >           > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw->
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rom:</span></span></strong> RAW &#60;raw-bounces@ietf.org&#62; <strong><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></strong>Georgios Z. Pap=
adopoulos<br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></str=
ong> lundi 30 mars 2020 13:07<br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
;">To:</span></strong> Xavi Vilajosana Guillen &#60;xvilajosana@uoc.edu&#62=
;<br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></strong> raw@i=
etf.org<br/> <strong><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></st=
rong> Re: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03</p>=
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size: small;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:54,=
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Schmitt &#60;<a href=3D"mailto:corinna.schmitt@unibw.de">corinna.schmitt@un=
ibw.de</a>&#62; del dia dl., 30 de mar&#231; 2020 a les 12:44:</span></span=
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ont-size: small;"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">Am 30.03.20 um 12:19 s=
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font-size: small;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt;">My personal opinion:<=
br/> <br/> +1 for adoption.<br/> <br/> Rick<br/> <br/> &#62; -----Original =
Message-----<br/> &#62; From: Rick Taylor<br/> &#62; Sent: 30 March 2020 11=
:15<br/> &#62; To: Rick Taylor; <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:raw@iet=
f.org">raw@ietf.org</a><br/> &#62; Subject: RE: Call for adoption of draft-=
bernardos-raw-use-cases-03<br/> &#62; <br/> &#62; Hi All,<br/> &#62; <br/> =
&#62; My apologies for the html format of the last email (blame Outlook).<b=
r/> &#62; <br/> &#62; The link to the draft is: <a target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-"> https://datatra=
cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-</a><br/> &#62; use-cases/<br/> &#62;=
 <br/> &#62; Cheers,<br/> &#62; <br/> &#62; Rick<br/> <br/> -- <br/> RAW ma=
iling list<br/> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:RAW@ietf.org">RAW@ietf.=
org</a><br/> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/list=
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><span style=3D"font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: &#39;Arial&#39;,sans-serif; =
color: #000078; font-weight: bold;">Dr. Xavier Vilajosana</span></span></st=
rong><span style=3D"color: #000078; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: &#39;Arial&#39;,sans-serif; c=
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yle: italic;">Internet Interdisciplinary Institute (IN3)<br/> Professor</sp=
an></em><br/> (+34) 646 633 681<br/> xvilajosana<a target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:usuari@uoc.edu"><span style=3D"color: #000078;"><span style=3D"c=
olor: #000078;">@uoc.edu</span></span></a><br/> <a target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"http://xvilajosana.org/">http://xvilajosana.org</a><br/> <a target=3D"_=
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ORMACI&#211; SOBRE PROTECCI&#211; DE DADES DE LA UNIVERSITAT OBERTA DE CATA=
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ont-size: 7.5pt; font-family: &#39;Arial&#39;,sans-serif; color: gray;">Us =
informem que les vostres dades identificatives i les contingudes en els mis=
satges electr&#242;nics i fitxers adjunts es poden incorporar a les nostres=
 bases de dades amb la finalitat de gestionar les relacions i comunicacions=
 vinculades a la UOC, i que es poden conservar mentre es mantingui la relac=
i&#243;. Si ho voleu, podeu exercir el dret a accedir a les vostres dades, =
rectificar-les i suprimir-les i altres drets reconeguts normativament adre&=
#231;ant-vos a l&#39;adre&#231;a de correu emissora o a <a target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:fuoc_pd@uoc.edu">fuoc_pd@uoc.edu</a>.</span></span></p>=20
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est missatge i qualsevol fitxer que porti adjunt, si escau, tenen el car&#2=
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3; de dades que no nom&#233;s s&#39;encarregar&#224; de supervisar tots els=
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ndre per a qualsevol q&#252;esti&#243; relacionada amb el tractament de dad=
es. La seva adre&#231;a de contacte &#233;s <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:dpd@uoc.edu">dpd@uoc.edu</a>.</span></span></p>=20
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icheros adjuntos pueden incorporarse a nuestras bases de datos con el fin d=
e gestionar las relaciones y comunicaciones vinculadas a la UOC, y de que p=
ueden conservarse mientras se mantenga la relaci&#243;n. Si lo dese&#225;is=
, pod&#233;is ejercer el derecho a acceder a vuestros datos, rectificarlos =
y suprimirlos y otros derechos reconocidos normativamente dirigi&#233;ndoos=
 a la direcci&#243;n de correo emisora o a <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:fuoc_pd@uoc.edu">fuoc_pd@uoc.edu</a>.</span></span></p>=20
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ra disposici&#243;n a un delegado de protecci&#243;n de datos que no solo s=
e encargar&#225; de supervisar todos los tratamientos de datos de nuestra e=
ntidad, sino que podr&#225; atenderos para cualquier cuesti&#243;n relacion=
ada con el tratamiento de datos. Su direcci&#243;n de contacto es <a target=
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+1 for adoption

Von: RAW [mailto:raw-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Rick Taylor
Gesendet: Montag, 30. M=E4rz 2020 12:12
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Betreff: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03

Hi All,

The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03<https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases/> have asked for a call for working gr=
oup adoption of their draft.

This is your opportunity to express your opinion.

A decision will be made on/after 13th April.

Cheers,

Rick and Eve
Co-chairs

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I support the adoption of the draft

El lun., 30 mar. 2020 a las 13:39, <Thomas.Graeupl@dlr.de> escribi=C3=B3:

> +1 for adoption
>
>
>
> *Von:* RAW [mailto:raw-bounces@ietf.org] *Im Auftrag von *Rick Taylor
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 30. M=C3=A4rz 2020 12:12
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> *Betreff:* [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
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> Hi All,
>
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> The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases/> have
> asked for a call for working group adoption of their draft.
>
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>
> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>
>
>
> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support the adoption of the draft</div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">El lun., 30 mar. 2020 a=
 las 13:39, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Thomas.Graeupl@dlr.de">Thomas.Graeupl@dlr=
.de</a>&gt; escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">+1 for adoption=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_-569447824759775933__MailEndCompose"><u=
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sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma=
,sans-serif"> RAW [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:raw-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D=
"_blank">raw-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Rick Taylor<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 30. M=C3=A4rz 2020 12:12<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:raw@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">raw@ietf.org</=
a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03=
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The authors of: <a href=3D"http=
s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;color:rgb(61,34,179);background:rgb(249,249=
,249);text-decoration:none">draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03</span></a> hav=
e asked for a call for working group adoption of their draft.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is your opportunity to exp=
ress your opinion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A decision will be made on/afte=
r 13<sup>th</sup> April.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Rick and Eve<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Co-chairs<u></u><u></u></span><=
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I support adoption.

Thanks,

Carlos

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Georgios Z. Papadopoulos <
georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr> wrote:

> +1 as co-author.
>
> Georgios
>
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> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=
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> > I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure and
> content.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> To: raw@ietf.org
> >> Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a
> call for
> >> working group adoption of their draft.
> >>
> >> The link to the draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-
> >> oam-support/
> >>
> >> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
> >>
> >> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Rick and Eve
> >> Co-chairs
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support adoption.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><=
br></div><div>Carlos</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Georgios Z. Papad=
opoulos &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr">geor=
gios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">+1 as co-author.<br>
<br>
Georgios<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) &lt;pthubert=3D<a=
 href=3D"mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">40cisco.com@d=
marc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure an=
d content.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; From: RAW &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raw-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">raw-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Rick Taylor<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14<br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:raw@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">raw@ietf.org=
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&gt;&gt; Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-suppor=
t-01<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Hi All,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for=
 a call for<br>
&gt;&gt; working group adoption of their draft.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; The link to the draft is: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://data=
tracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-</a><br>
&gt;&gt; oam-support/<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; This is your opportunity to express your opinion.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; A decision will be made on/after 13th April.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Rick and Eve<br>
&gt;&gt; Co-chairs<br>
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I support the adoption of this draft. The content is well structured and
the scope is inline with the raw charter.
regards
X


Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> del dia dl., 30
de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 14:30:

> I support adoption.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carlos
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Georgios Z. Papadopoulos <
> georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr> wrote:
>
>> +1 as co-author.
>>
>> Georgios
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=3D
>> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure an=
d
>> content.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
>> >> Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14
>> >> To: raw@ietf.org
>> >> Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-0=
1
>> >>
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a
>> call for
>> >> working group adoption of their draft.
>> >>
>> >> The link to the draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-
>> >> oam-support/
>> >>
>> >> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>> >>
>> >> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Rick and Eve
>> >> Co-chairs
>> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support the adoption of this draft. The content is well =
structured and the scope is inline with the raw charter.<div>regards</div><=
div>X</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es">cjbc@it.uc3m.es</a>&gt; del dia dl., 30 de ma=
r=C3=A7 2020 a les 14:30:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I support adoption.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Carlos</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Georgi=
os Z. Papadopoulos &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantiq=
ue.fr" target=3D"_blank">georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">+1 as co-au=
thor.<br>
<br>
Georgios<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) &lt;pthubert=3D<a=
 href=3D"mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">40cisco.com@d=
marc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure an=
d content.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; From: RAW &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raw-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_b=
lank">raw-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Rick Taylor<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14<br>
&gt;&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:raw@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">raw@ietf.org=
</a><br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-suppor=
t-01<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Hi All,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for=
 a call for<br>
&gt;&gt; working group adoption of their draft.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; The link to the draft is: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://data=
tracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-</a><br>
&gt;&gt; oam-support/<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; This is your opportunity to express your opinion.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; A decision will be made on/after 13th April.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Rick and Eve<br>
&gt;&gt; Co-chairs<br>
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Support.
Ethan.

From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:12 AM
To: raw@ietf.org
Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03

Hi All,

The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03<https://urldefense.proofpo=
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This is your opportunity to express your opinion.

A decision will be made on/after 13th April.

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Rick and Eve
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Hi,

I also support this draft.

Best,
Aris

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> I support the adoption of this draft. The content is well structured and
> the scope is inline with the raw charter.
> regards
> X
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> Missatge de CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> del dia dl., 30
> de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 14:30:
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>> I support adoption.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Carlos
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Georgios Z. Papadopoulos <
>> georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 as co-author.
>>>
>>> Georgios
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert=3D
>>> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure
>>> and content.
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
>>> >> Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14
>>> >> To: raw@ietf.org
>>> >> Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-=
01
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a
>>> call for
>>> >> working group adoption of their draft.
>>> >>
>>> >> The link to the draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-
>>> >> oam-support/
>>> >>
>>> >> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>>> >>
>>> >> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> Rick and Eve
>>> >> Co-chairs
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I also support this draf=
t.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Aris</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020=
 at 2:34 PM Xavi Vilajosana Guillen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xvilajosana@uoc.e=
du">xvilajosana@uoc.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I support the adoption of this draf=
t. The content is well structured and the scope is inline with the raw char=
ter.<div>regards</div><div>X</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Missatge de CARLOS JESUS B=
ERNARDOS CANO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cjbc@it.uc3m.es" target=3D"_blank">cjbc=
@it.uc3m.es</a>&gt; del dia dl., 30 de mar=C3=A7 2020 a les 14:30:<br></div=
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rt adoption.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Carlos</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:14 PM Georgios Z. Papadopoulos &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:georgios.papadopoulos@imt-atlantique.fr" target=3D"_blank">georgios.p=
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gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">+1 as co-author.<br>
<br>
Georgios<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Mar 30, 2020, at 13:10, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) &lt;pthubert=3D<a=
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&gt; <br>
&gt; I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure an=
d content.<br>
&gt; <br>
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&gt;&gt; Hi All,<br>
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&gt;&gt; The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for=
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&gt;&gt; The link to the draft is: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
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&gt;&gt; oam-support/<br>
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&gt;&gt; This is your opportunity to express your opinion.<br>
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&gt;&gt; A decision will be made on/after 13th April.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
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Hello all,

I support this draft for adoption.

Best,
Aris

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:10 PM Grossman, Ethan A. <eagros@dolby.com> wrote=
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> Support.
>
> Ethan.
>
>
>
> *From:* RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Rick Taylor
> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2020 3:12 AM
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> *Subject:* [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
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> Hi All,
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>
> The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
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> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
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>
>
> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
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>
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> Cheers,
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>
>
> Rick and Eve
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello all,</div><div><br></div><div>I support this dr=
aft for adoption.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Aris<br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:10 PM Grossman, Ethan A. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
eagros@dolby.com">eagros@dolby.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Support.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ethan.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> RAW &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raw-bounces@i=
etf.org" target=3D"_blank">raw-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b=
>
Rick Taylor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2020 3:12 AM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The authors of: <a href=3D"http=
s://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc=
_draft-2Dbernardos-2Draw-2Duse-2Dcases_&amp;d=3DDwMFAg&amp;c=3DlI8Zb6TzM3d1=
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<span style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;color:rgb(61,34,179);background:rgb(249,249=
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e-cases-03</span></a> have asked for a call for working group adoption of t=
heir draft.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is your opportunity to exp=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A decision will be made on/afte=
r 13<sup>th</sup> April.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Rick and Eve<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Co-chairs<u></u><u></u></span><=
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As I used to tell my thesis students (often), the pieces are there but
use the cut/paste features of your word processor and get them better
organized:


Organization.

Find a reliability engineering textbook (preferably one that predates
the internet). In it you will find that there are three principles of
high availability engineering:

1.  Principle: elimination of single points of failure.

in 2. you have "Fault-tolerance also assumes that multiple path have to
be provisioned ..."

5.1 and 5.2 also address the principle.


2.  Principle: reliable crossover.

This is not treated explicitly but is tacit within 5.2. Internet
Protocol executes the principle. The problem with this draft is it
advocates adding state into the routing fabric without seeming to
realize that that tends to defeat the reliable crossover principle. 5.3
resource reservation clearly does this. Therefore, I recommend that the
reliable crossover principle get explicit treatment at this stage so
the tradeoffs can be properly weighed.
  (We've gone through resource reservation protocols before -- remember
RSVP? -- and they've not been very successful).  

3.  Principle: detection of faults as they occur.

3.3 and 3.4 treat this, but, IMHO, the organization should again be
cleaned up.  Back in the days when Simple Network Management Protocol
was being worked up, a common acronym was FCAPS for [Fault Configuraion
Accounting Performance Security]. Sounds to me like a pattern that this
discussion could be mapped onto.
   In this case we have performance management solutions commingled
with fault management ones. My experience is that QoS issues should
always be the _last_ to be discussed, not the first.
   SNMP is nowhere mentioned in the draft. Sooner or later, you're
going to need gets, sets and traps.  Is now the right time?


Recommend that the organization be remapped onto the three principles.
Help me; is this posting supposed to ignite the discussion or does the
organization need to get straightened out first?  I certainly agree to
adoption in the former instance but not for the latter.



Nits.

5.1.  Multipath.  Definition is incorrect.
  - what you are looking for is alternate routes -- part of the
principle of elimination of single points of failure.
  - but 'multipath' in radio means multiple paths between an RF
transmitter and and RF receiver (such as GPS satellites and GPS
receivers, due to urban canyons). In radionavigation multipath is
always bad; in radio communication it's alsmost always bad. But it's
not the alternate routes you're after here. Since you are dealing with
radio as a subject, don't get the terminology confused.

Ping and Traceroute are indeed some of the earliest diagnostics in the
internet. But they only show you visible routers. If your path goes
through a VPN that won't show.

4. has both prior art and MAC issues.
  - MAC.  I use the term wireless LAN to denote those network segments
that reach from last router to end system (predominantly WiFi).  WiFi
uses a contention MAC that his highly sensitive to congestion -- 1) too
much traffic will jam the link, 2) the jamming occurs at low baseband
usage and 3) there's no way to control it.  
  Radio-WANs include radio networks in the interior of the internetwork
(the problem is router-router interconnect).  The successful protocols
in this topology have contention-free MACs (IEEE 802.16 and LTE). The
contention-free MAC is jam-proof, provides high bandwidth usage and is
eminently controllable.
  Prior art. IEEE 802.16 has about four dozen MAC messages listed in
the standard. Many are similar to what is in 4. now except with
different language.  Is it necessary to reinvent this?  Example:
'Received Signal Strength Indicator' and 'per radio channel to measure
e.g. the level of external interference, and to be able to apply
counter-measures' are mentioned. Ranging messages in IEEE 802.16
measure similar  (and somewhat more precisely defined) values both per
channel and per subscriber station. The 802.16 committee organized all
these values as a MIB which, of course, can be exported.  
  (I'm familiar with IEEE 802.16 but not with the text of LTE. Since
all the vendors that started building 802.16 hardware shifted to LTE
when the telcos adopted it (as '4G') I'm assuming that there's a good
deal of copying.)





On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 11:10 +0000, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
> I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure
> and content.
> 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
> > Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14
> > To: raw@ietf.org
> > Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-
> > support-01
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for
> > a call for
> > working group adoption of their draft.
> > 
> > The link to the draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-th
> > eoleyre-raw-
> > oam-support/
> > 
> > This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
> > 
> > A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Rick and Eve
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I think that in the RAW technologies and use cases we should start with the
security level/concept first, and then the use case, this draft approach
uses the old IETF approach of leaving security last to be considered or
not. It all depends on the wireless application and services, so for
systems that need high reliability we will need security if using wireless.

The draft needs to have security considerations and not to be empty or N/A,
because it presents the reliable wireless Link use cases. In many cases to
make wireless Link reliable is to make the Link secure, therefore, it is
important to include security with reliability especially for control flows
and RAW.

AB

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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases/> have
> asked for a call for working group adoption of their draft.
>
>
>
> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>
>
>
> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Rick and Eve
>
> Co-chairs
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 draft approach uses the old IETF approach of leaving security last to be c=
onsidered or not. It all depends on the wireless application and services, =
so for systems that need high reliability we will need security if using wi=
reless.<div><br></div><div>The draft needs to have security considerations =
and not to be empty or N/A, because it presents the reliable wireless Link =
use cases. In many cases to make wireless Link reliable is to make the Link=
 secure, therefore, it is important to include security with reliability es=
pecially for control flows and RAW.</div><div><div><br></div><div>AB</div><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:12 PM Rick Taylor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ric=
k@tropicalstormsoftware.com">rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-GB">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The authors of: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases/" target=3D"_blank">
<span style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;color:rgb(61,34,179);background:rgb(249,249=
,249);text-decoration:none">draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03</span></a> hav=
e asked for a call for working group adoption of their draft.<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is your opportunity to express your opinion.<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">A decision will be made on/after 13<sup>th</sup> Apr=
il.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick and Eve<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Co-chairs<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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Dear Rex,

Thank you for your feedback.=20

> Organization.
>=20
> Find a reliability engineering textbook (preferably one that predates
> the internet). In it you will find that there are three principles of
> high availability engineering:
>=20
> 1.  Principle: elimination of single points of failure.
>=20
> in 2. you have "Fault-tolerance also assumes that multiple path have =
to
> be provisioned ..."
>=20
> 5.1 and 5.2 also address the principle.
>=20
>=20
> 2.  Principle: reliable crossover.
>=20
> This is not treated explicitly but is tacit within 5.2. Internet
> Protocol executes the principle. The problem with this draft is it
> advocates adding state into the routing fabric without seeming to
> realize that that tends to defeat the reliable crossover principle. =
5.3
> resource reservation clearly does this. Therefore, I recommend that =
the
> reliable crossover principle get explicit treatment at this stage so
> the tradeoffs can be properly weighed.
>   (We've gone through resource reservation protocols before -- =
remember
> RSVP? -- and they've not been very successful). =20
>=20
> 3.  Principle: detection of faults as they occur.
>=20
> 3.3 and 3.4 treat this, but, IMHO, the organization should again be
> cleaned up.  Back in the days when Simple Network Management Protocol
> was being worked up, a common acronym was FCAPS for [Fault =
Configuraion
> Accounting Performance Security]. Sounds to me like a pattern that =
this
> discussion could be mapped onto.
>    In this case we have performance management solutions commingled
> with fault management ones. My experience is that QoS issues should
> always be the _last_ to be discussed, not the first.
>    SNMP is nowhere mentioned in the draft. Sooner or later, you're
> going to need gets, sets and traps.  Is now the right time?

I agree with these 3 principles.=20
We will try to think about how to highlight them clearly.=20

Indeed, reliability is one criteria (we also have the delay).=20
Thus, I would probably not structure the draft around these 3 topics.=20

However, we will find a way to more clearly emphasize this distinction.=20=



> Recommend that the organization be remapped onto the three principles.
> Help me; is this posting supposed to ignite the discussion or does the
> organization need to get straightened out first?  I certainly agree to
> adoption in the former instance but not for the latter.

=46rom my point of view: the objective is currently to initiate the =
discussion, determine what is missing, etc.

> Nits.
>=20
> 5.1.  Multipath.  Definition is incorrect.
>   - what you are looking for is alternate routes -- part of the
> principle of elimination of single points of failure.
>   - but 'multipath' in radio means multiple paths between an RF
> transmitter and and RF receiver (such as GPS satellites and GPS
> receivers, due to urban canyons). In radionavigation multipath is
> always bad; in radio communication it's alsmost always bad. But it's
> not the alternate routes you're after here. Since you are dealing with
> radio as a subject, don't get the terminology confused.

Thank you for raising this possible source of confusion. Actually, we =
have two different concepts:
1/ multipath for radio propagation (multiple paths for the wave)
2/ multipath routing =3D multiple routing paths (multiple paths at the =
routing layer). Actually, multipath routing goes farther than an =
=E2=80=9Dalternate route=E2=80=9D, since packets may be dispatched along =
meshed multipath routes (i.e. we don=E2=80=99t have distinct end-to-end =
routes, with one primary path, and an alternate path).=20

While the term =E2=80=9Dmultipath" is used in both domains, they have a =
different usage (they both mean multiple =E2=80=9Dpaths=E2=80=9D, but =
for different things)/=20

To avoid any confusion, the draft now uses either =E2=80=9Dmultipath =
routing=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Dmultipath propagation=E2=80=9D and never =
=E2=80=9Dmultipath=E2=80=9D alone.=20

> Ping and Traceroute are indeed some of the earliest diagnostics in the
> internet. But they only show you visible routers. If your path goes
> through a VPN that won't show.

They correspond to usual OAM tools that we just cited.=20
For RAW, we will need specific tools because of the wireless =
characteristics.=20
=20
We reformulated into "They help to identify a subset of the list of =
routers in the route=E2=80=9D instead of "They help to identify the list =
of routers in the route=E2=80=9D
Is it now clearer?

> 4. has both prior art and MAC issues.
>   - MAC.  I use the term wireless LAN to denote those network segments
> that reach from last router to end system (predominantly WiFi).  WiFi
> uses a contention MAC that his highly sensitive to congestion -- 1) =
too
> much traffic will jam the link, 2) the jamming occurs at low baseband
> usage and 3) there's no way to control it. =20
>   Radio-WANs include radio networks in the interior of the =
internetwork
> (the problem is router-router interconnect).  The successful protocols
> in this topology have contention-free MACs (IEEE 802.16 and LTE). The
> contention-free MAC is jam-proof, provides high bandwidth usage and is
> eminently controllable.
>   Prior art. IEEE 802.16 has about four dozen MAC messages listed in
> the standard. Many are similar to what is in 4. now except with
> different language.  Is it necessary to reinvent this?  Example:
> 'Received Signal Strength Indicator' and 'per radio channel to measure
> e.g. the level of external interference, and to be able to apply
> counter-measures' are mentioned. Ranging messages in IEEE 802.16
> measure similar  (and somewhat more precisely defined) values both per
> channel and per subscriber station. The 802.16 committee organized all
> these values as a MIB which, of course, can be exported. =20
>   (I'm familiar with IEEE 802.16 but not with the text of LTE. Since
> all the vendors that started building 802.16 hardware shifted to LTE
> when the telcos adopted it (as '4G') I'm assuming that there's a good
> deal of copying.)

I=E2=80=99m not sure to understand this point.=20

By MAC, I guess you mean Medium Access Control?=20
Even if the MAC is collision free (as WiMAX, Wireless HART, etc.), you =
have a scheduler that allocates the transmission opportunities.=20
In my mind, OAM is in charge of maintaining a view of the network and =
its ressource usage to help typically the scheduler.=20

Thus, the section 4.1 tries for instance to highlight the statistics to =
report for this purpose.=20
I guess that=E2=80=99s typically the things to highlight for RAW: =
wireless transmissions create specific concerns (e.g. using multiple =
radio channels to combat external interference for some technologies, as =
well as using different Spreading Factors, etc.)

In conclusion, I=E2=80=99m not sure to understand how the current text =
is in contradiction with the example you provide.=20



Thank you for your constructive feedback!

Best regards,
Fabrice


NB: the last version of the draft (with our latest modifications) is =
available online at https://github.com/ftheoleyre/paw-oam/=20

> On Mon, 2020-03-30 at 11:10 +0000, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
>> I support the adoption. The draft already has a very good structure
>> and content.
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Sent: lundi 30 mars 2020 12:14
>>> To: raw@ietf.org
>>> Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-
>>> support-01
>>>=20
>>> Hi All,
>>>=20
>>> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for
>>> a call for
>>> working group adoption of their draft.
>>>=20
>>> The link to the draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-th
>>> eoleyre-raw-
>>> oam-support/
>>>=20
>>> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>>>=20
>>> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>>=20
>>> Rick and Eve
>>> Co-chairs
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Hi,
I support the adoption of this draft. It is in the RAW charter and there ar=
e milestones for it.
Regards,
Janos


From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:12 PM
To: raw@ietf.org
Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03

Hi All,

The authors of: draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases-03<https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases/> have asked for a call for working gr=
oup adoption of their draft.

This is your opportunity to express your opinion.

A decision will be made on/after 13th April.

Cheers,

Rick and Eve
Co-chairs

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Janos<o:p></o:p></p>
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Rick Taylor<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The authors of: <a href=3D"http=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is your opportunity to exp=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A decision will be made on/afte=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Rick and Eve<o:p></o:p></span><=
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Hi,

I guess I'd start with:
3) Does the draft meet the criteria outlined in the WG charter (this is mos=
tly a decision for the chairs, but we welcome feedback!)

Checking the RAW charter:
"RAW is not chartered to work on a solution. If solution work is needed, th=
e Working Group will coordinate with the IESG to determine where the work w=
ill be done. If RAW is chosen for the solution work, the Working Group will=
 recharter."

The intended status of the draft is Standards Track. It includes conformanc=
e language, e.g.,:
" The ping packets must be labeled in the same way as the data packets of t=
he flow to monitor."
" These metrics should be collected:"

To me, the draft seems to be solution, hence, outside of the current RAW ch=
arter.


Thinking then on:
1) Is the RAW working group the correct WG for this work?
Also in the RAW charter:
" RAW extends the DetNet Working Group concepts"
As I understand, RAW OAM should be an extension of DetNet OAM, not RAW OAM =
on its own. The draft does not mention or refer to DetNet OAM. Well, DetNet=
 OAM has not been finished yet, but there are drafts for it:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-oam/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mirsky-detnet-ip-oam/
Perhaps the OAM work could be done in the DetNet WG. DetNet OAM could be ex=
tended for wireless in the DetNet WG.=20


So, I do not support the adoption of this draft.

Regards,
Janos


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From: RAW <raw-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Rick Taylor
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 12:14 PM
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Subject: [Raw] Call for adoption of draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01

Hi All,

The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a call f=
or working group adoption of their draft.

The link to the draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-=
raw-oam-support/

This is your opportunity to express your opinion.

A decision will be made on/after 13th April.

Cheers,

Rick and Eve
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Hi Rick, Eve, et al.,
I've volunteered to review this draft, and I'd like to use this thread to
share my comments with you. My answers to three questions set forth by WG
Chairs are in-lined below tagged GIM>>, following my comments.

I enjoined reading the document - it is very well written, with an in-depth
understanding of OAM and the specifics of the wireless media. There's no
priority order in a way I've listed them.

   - the draft, as I understand, intended to define the OAM framework in
   RAW, list requirements for OAM in RAW, identify the RAW-specific scenarios.
   The document is on the Standards track, but Informational might be better
   suited as protocols and mechanisms to address the requirements likely will
   be specified in separate drafts.
   - Abstract may benefit from some update to closer align with the goal of
   the document explained in the Introduction section (I've applied minor
   editorial changes to the second from the end paragraph):

NEW TEXT:
   This document lists the requirements of
   the Operation, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) features
recommended to construct a predictable communication
   infrastructure on top of a collection of wireless segments.  This
   document describes the benefits, problems, and trade-offs for using
   OAM in wireless networks to achieve Service Level Objectives.


   - I suggest using Service Level Objectives rather than Service Level
   Agreement. These are similar, but SLA exists in the form of a document,
   likely legal document between a Subscriber and an Operator. SLO, on the
   other hand, reflects what an Operator plans to achieve for the particular
   class of services.
   - several notes on the Terminology:
      - I would propose to change from "flow to be controlled" to "flow to
      be monitored"
      - OAM end-device is a useful term, but I didn't find it being used in
      the text. Instead, "maintenance endpoint" used in Section 5. I am used to
      MEP and MIP (used in Section 3.2) terminology, but that will require the
      definition of the Maintenence Domain. Alternatively, we can use
Test Point
      for MEPs and Monitoring Point for MIPs.
      - I think that the explanation provided for "defect" is closer to
      "quality degradation". A defect is usually is associated with a
state that
      has entry and exit criteria.
   - Section 2 is very useful; thank you. Do you think that changing the
   title to "Role of OAM in RAW" be helpful?
   - You may consider generalizing the second paragraph and refer to an
   orchestrator or SDN controller rather than to single out the PCE solution.
   - I'm not sure I fully agree with the following statement

OAM is in charge of controlling the replication/elimination processes.

I think that for the given RAW flow, PREOF on a node is controlled by the
central controller. OAM may be used to verify that PREOF is operating
properly on a node and within the domain.


   - The title of Section 3.1 gives me the opportunity to get on one of my
   favorite "OAM soap-box". There's a fine distinction between Continuity
   check and Connectivity verification. The former only concerns with the
   existence of a way to deliver a packet from node A to node B. The latter
   adds another condition - the absence of misconnection, i.e., no packets
   from nodes other than A, received on node B's interface. Of course, that is
   important if we consider the p2p connection-oriented communication model.
   - Multipath is undoubtedly an appropriate term to characterize a network
   that has more than one path between two nodes. An alternative might be the
   "meshed network".
   - Very interesting and appropriate discussion of a sufficient amount of
   OAM information in Section 3.3. It might deserve to be in the separate
   section and be expanded to how active OAM and on-path OAM (for example,
   iOAM, iPath, INT from P4) can be combined, complement each other.
   - you may find some OAM requirements in the expired document on OAM in
   overlay networks
   <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-02.txt>
   .

1) Is the RAW working group the correct WG for this work?
GIM>> I think yes
2) Are you as a WG participant ready and willing to review and raise
comments on the draft, if it is adopted?
GIM>> I do (for better for worse, for richer for poorer)
3) Does the draft meet the criteria outlined in the WG charter (this is
mostly a decision for the chairs, but we welcome feedback!)
GIM>> As I understand the stated scope of the draft "yes".

I have three questions I usually answer to myself when evaluating a
candidate document for WG adoption:

   1. Is the document reasonably well-written? Is it readable? - Yes
   2. Does the document address the real problem? - Yes
   3. Is the proposed solution to the problem plausible? - This document
   correctly identifies the problem and is very much needed to document the
   requirements to OAM in RAW.


Regards,
Greg

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:13 AM Rick Taylor <rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a call
> for working group adoption of their draft.
>
> The link to the draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support/
>
> This is your opportunity to express your opinion.
>
> A decision will be made on/after 13th April.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick and Eve
> Co-chairs
>
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><div><ol><li>Is the document reasonably well-written? Is it readable? - Ye=
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proposed solution to the problem plausible? - This document correctly ident=
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:13 AM Rick Taylor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rick@trop=
icalstormsoftware.com">rick@tropicalstormsoftware.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Hi All,<br>
<br>
The authors of: draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-01 (have asked for a call f=
or working group adoption of their draft.<br>
<br>
The link to the draft is: <a target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" href=3D"h=
ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support/">https://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support/</a><br>
<br>
This is your opportunity to express your opinion.<br>
<br>
A decision will be made on/after 13th April.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Rick and Eve<br>
Co-chairs<br>
<br>
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