From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Tue Jul 11 13:42:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE64127444 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id libGJHpjA8Ic for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B70D1317D6 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8D9B816E0; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E90B816E0; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ip8AXRlSmNTj; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 586CEB816DF; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.217.73.6]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MZTP3-1dEK3U1OKT-00LGVq; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:42:45 +0200 To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" , rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org References: <148916689952.6827.6792653811413720687.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <383fa41c-e289-8045-7c1f-fcdcd8cc8445@rfc-editor.org> <4665dcee-9b70-d9ec-c83b-b605eda418ce@gmx.de> <8c936405-3285-0baf-39e0-ef5f06e4f30c@rfc-editor.org> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:42:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8c936405-3285-0baf-39e0-ef5f06e4f30c@rfc-editor.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:MDDvfF4tslKkyuBC3OW2kU3BqRkOUtbs3LTbDTYQHjomg4d/Pgj NL7Wp8wMxG1cQlxZa7lLYaCsXjPrwS4U6QNA73YEveOP4yg4sxZTgUH4t/XbG/5TCObvPY8 ciiiBecRqiKyvaudnHhofNI0GSCGupTiDTiw7L1r9iFS5WoFMefRmW8L4sQLBtcR9bfl8zx OgLLkymv64JS+u6KLKHrA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Fluvp2SNb9o=:FOAyj20Q/iRITcP9Nziv1C l/ZdfE00uj4C8/ZSZ31TvGenx5TH4/54xPwC2TftI0Zj4BENxKdNpMpBu0xWCjGTzDUcBlMnY ZVN+lGklET09C4CqBv6tutUfKvjpcWSTdcidooSmOVMAhn4zJXJQY+SpxQHx7RFRMAeX/f/mU j7bUh2Pp7erx7mN9bOK0VNSXifz6W01iX30BEkiNvbhIIwo0AqTlcspZE4oUa0UBr4Ogpt/Bi 8XrAcdYY19TaRzhy/PBL+oGcWTuMHIS1r4JKVwIhYJJt96ggnL4mX++5KTpBYvCWDyXoXje++ H+RD4H1RIjASSWVzpR1oQWGXNCo3VbrqZVaSGLiCaxB2S4MR4vMT4d+ZJF/7KleDS6Dj+ZPUt 3X2Q7Lv8/DJ0pb18k5C4aUL18mZaX0HMgtMvYKFlDZtv1ZmwsGWdGoxTSSozvk8u60L8S/mvh uphCmnvNRpMlv4l5IW+p1MZRkhOHRHo8IHVRrhIJ+8b/chiWB4xKh+xBrDAbTwTrHHZLXzcmG nF8c083l9+IGgc5h9YZXYyU4//vcRqXolSN7uNy4q3I17Z0euMx+YJ/N0whGPDejFP76INlip T/Vaug5KUqZ/uSUO1uQT1AOWKSDryp8diThxnrlhxLyzsBEt2uaNBzCuVPKrPaMrnkhh7e//e tBOe67ocKVyIhIeTTTwk079rjPCza96AkZJ3o/o9nzZ5BHjRnoCm0hAfzmYXM+NOy58jbxdbh rE5r4c+NPQoEnB/IVtu8abKUHsLVHa1iykVp13rMisWZog4FauzwciFvcJOsn/bIGyzxG6Lh0 /2/lThU Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-flanagan-7322bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 2017-05-03 15:25, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: > On 5/3/17 1:00 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 2017-03-10 21:27, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: >>> FYI, I am kicking off the refresh of the RFC Style Guide. Significant >>> changes include: >>> ... >> >> Out of curiosity: what's the plan here? The draft is two months old, >> feedback was sent, then... silence? >> >> > > The plan is to have a -01 out this month. I was discussing some of the > areas of potential change (capitalization of working group, referencing > subseries) with the RPC yesterday, and will be discussing normative > references for open source code with the IESG at their retreat in mid-May. ...any news on this? _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Wed Jul 12 05:38:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA1C12EC30 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cSUgZc3IiMbo for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E62A128A32 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44730B81A98; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ADDB81A98 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G-r6EAfexTrA for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28BBFB81A96 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12B61CA515; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fhy9wjTRkahW; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-73-181-135-61.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.181.135.61]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F4D71CA41D; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:45 -0700 (PDT) To: Julian Reschke , rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org References: <148916689952.6827.6792653811413720687.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <383fa41c-e289-8045-7c1f-fcdcd8cc8445@rfc-editor.org> <4665dcee-9b70-d9ec-c83b-b605eda418ce@gmx.de> <8c936405-3285-0baf-39e0-ef5f06e4f30c@rfc-editor.org> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 05:38:48 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-flanagan-7322bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 7/11/17 1:42 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2017-05-03 15:25, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: >> On 5/3/17 1:00 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> On 2017-03-10 21:27, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: >>>> FYI, I am kicking off the refresh of the RFC Style Guide. Significant >>>> changes include: >>>> ... >>> >>> Out of curiosity: what's the plan here? The draft is two months old, >>> feedback was sent, then... silence? >>> >>> >> >> The plan is to have a -01 out this month. I was discussing some of the >> areas of potential change (capitalization of working group, referencing >> subseries) with the RPC yesterday, and will be discussing normative >> references for open source code with the IESG at their retreat in >> mid-May. > > ...any news on this? > Yes. Draft deadline missed, my bad. If you'd like to see the latest, you can view what I've posted on github. https://github.com/hlflanagan/draft-flanagan-7322bis I'll get this in the datatracker next week. -Heather _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Wed Jul 12 09:06:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DEB1316B9 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MEu8mFtraYW6 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABE6D12F3D6 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C78FB81A31; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DC5B81A2F for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o1sMIhPlpKIe for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0170AB81A2A for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984741CA51C for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9iRqzfOjHr69 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-73-181-135-61.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.181.135.61]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6CBBD1CA41D for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT) To: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <26805210-8487-d077-e646-b2c9225488f3@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:06:12 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Subject: [rfc-i] FYI: Format update at the WG Chairs lunch, IETF 99 X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" Hello all, I will be giving a 15 minute update on the format project with information about the tools that have been released so far and the status of coming work. The slides will be made available as part of the meeting proceedings. -Heather _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Wed Jul 12 15:10:57 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336A412EBF7 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.091 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.091 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H6aMsQGdNE7n for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5623127444 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CFAB80FF4; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541ABB80FF4 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Authentication-Results: rfcpa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qMFyUbYTEUvw for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x234.google.com (mail-lf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::234]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2559B80FE8 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id t72so26765939lff.1 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xB2vcYyUz/ELhoHtq1oxTS81GdkASlqygCm0bFmD6I8=; b=CRQmEv8MZL0GNECv43BCe+mR7mnRJhQnht5piLXHeOKXeBXv0IIXtpsfhTXmUn7Fl3 VXXcX5i+w1+qAYsxxxt6OQa9zyaxebbMrUlX3DsajaxlUO4Ov1PqcM5TYpbiSL/WYdno Ro+jNf8jV/KRHz0EjhXP+FUUrs6xhldZlDX2BTaLAZsSOdDLzTgm7fLWytolsmQt1cQ6 M7yNtjKBFj/+WRjnj4ARCovZ8A/yrHkklx9TcpcMNdkB5R/f4DDjrDuhlAae2X5OPdj1 cSfZFV+hIyWHWEcDPjBW3f0Z/sp1jfULo4tCg4bSp2lIlcckIA5WUG2RBcSb6c7WKLf4 UMDg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to; bh=xB2vcYyUz/ELhoHtq1oxTS81GdkASlqygCm0bFmD6I8=; b=PvS9QIBKIbjvr7fxYeMC3CfSldSt4Ap7dgdN2P8o+27Vc26Nio1hz52XxWVrKnAaZZ 9Od48K6GUkMBCDcn2BvBtxI7Av9J0ccF9UGLDABQYD14uyJcu0CjeUHQtE48M6Dt++bi 0A0JhJq/ZZupPMxq3mg9qoPIJQ1ThDrcmhbsxuy37bMIeDEqS9g80m5vyOsPf380O07x JpRWjGiK02qEfukI5lXh+uxZ6Ph6zmRiHwWnPHK0mX4WJ8Rl8PKtJPIw3zopx9QldHR+ acdB6GBuIPP6VKw/BBo/ZW5UNptrgHjmF7KEYNOQYDraXYYqBeC8UZt//A8gwO05XHNF fE5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112D32fTBnoSKulPW2oxpdgpgbra35Z2j0rPZmZUa+WRcIBR0BdV Aytwe6kAlwdE2Ri+NP2z50g6V59HE0LZ X-Received: by 10.25.201.18 with SMTP id z18mr172016lff.153.1499897449976; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.181.214 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Phillip Hallam-Baker Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:10:49 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: sfou6e2ScwrZivG_jFfsEx2WgE0 Message-ID: To: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Subject: [rfc-i] Is RFC 7841 a normative reference? X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4376948217656283579==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============4376948217656283579== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114b2c78b49a69055426168c" --001a114b2c78b49a69055426168c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" RFC 7841 requires this sort of text in the boilerplate: For IETF stream documents, a similar reference is added: "Further information on (BCPs or Internet Standards) is available in Section 2 of RFC 7841 ." for BCP and Standard Track documents; "Not all documents approved by the IESG are a candidate for any level of Internet Standards; see Section 2 of RFC 7841 ." for all other categories. The precise boilerplate differs but they all require something. Should I add this as a normative or an informative reference? I think it should be normative but the text does not make this clear. In my document prep system, it has to be entered as one or the other in the catalog to create the link. --001a114b2c78b49a69055426168c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RFC 7841 requires this sort of text in the b= oilerplate:


   For IETF=
 stream documents, a similar reference is added: "Further
   information on (BCPs or Internet Standards) is available in Section=C2=A02
   of RFC 7841." for BCP and Standard Track documents; "Not a=
ll
   documents approved by the IESG are a candidate for any level of
   Internet Standards; see Section=C2=A02 of RFC 7841." for all other
   categories.

The precise boilerplate differs but they all requir=
e something.

Should I add this as a normative or an informative ref=
erence? I think it 
should be normat=
ive but the text does not make this clear.

In my document prep syst=
em, it has to be entered as one or the other in the 
catalog to create the link.
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5446996152743784265==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============5446996152743784265== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045fb6e613f927055426262b" --f403045fb6e613f927055426262b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it would be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members somewhere so that I can put that in the tool. Otherwise, I think you would want to modify the xml2rfc schema to include the info. --f403045fb6e613f927055426262b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If = people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it would be nic= e if there was a preset link to the current list of members somewhere so th= at I can put that in the tool.

Otherwise, I think you would want to modify the xml2rfc schema to inc= lude the info.
--f403045fb6e613f927055426262b-- --===============5446996152743784265== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest --===============5446996152743784265==-- From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Wed Jul 12 16:14:09 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCE0127735 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 584BMMvwLBvf for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9C12126C0F for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E31B812A5; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F54B812A5 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EnU-nYc0PvPg for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E697CB812A4 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707FF1CA528 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ccwww65h-A4q for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-73-181-135-61.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.181.135.61]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 481C71CA41D for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org References: From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:14:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Link to current list of IAB members X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 7/12/17 3:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it would > be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members > somewhere so that I can put that in the tool. > > Otherwise, I think you would want to modify the xml2rfc schema to > include the info. > Are you thinking something like a processing instruction? --Heather _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Wed Jul 12 16:37:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ED012F268 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.891 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BGfHt4ho-ZtE for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82325126C0F for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B11BB81325; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823DBB81325; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Authentication-Results: rfcpa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id liiqE0jkMJCY; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22e.google.com (mail-it0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22e]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0F6DB81324; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id m68so24416736ith.1; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=P4mUABRTmshhs8aaLuLEIyk0vL1ZBvRM1MFPW0QY/4o=; b=atehfYpyuy2fZRmUBNZGVOMxsWpqSX7zZDFMk45jvyMUAOl51APjIFuIJZI85Oi00Y rK1U3pHVHNC3+PusdJwkpFliMSjRImCGrbYksXtd7dYWoZjCxZrDNAOcJFr99zYXc57k yhPwDdLYi1Tu8aIH8WzN75LKn/cM4Wtgt5hURCu3GZ8E8CfLNgddf54gxrBW+6F7zHbH bcGal5DNUYjL+kZyEfRz3FZD9zEGu2XneRshnu7PEcU1PBViVCbABbOBdsNoENZ3N2r7 czmOF1PbvKbxYCFlxTK3lldaTpO9U24BpOAszqnobw3YF1L7oGPYVxkVsQMT5FeM69yM 5B7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=P4mUABRTmshhs8aaLuLEIyk0vL1ZBvRM1MFPW0QY/4o=; b=dskYT3PeZXPue0NWuhRJ8vMTsaibV5Qu+MKDyS7ccM0ecFE8WzOdd2uDzzCw8KBbaP fInPSeMGj6oUUTTAASvUtW1r5mexv0euPorvREAO8zLRij2OQEQjprOSB43Bkzebk+ma lfS1fEXavXsb+fYxkEF4pyYMlbcQltoFAfQgu5HPBE0ybbxrP7J3kH7o+O6neVxXHAde Ub1JY4LjOdNQ1g4OKCkGoYtcLAz51xAXTKnFhh6z63+8ZFIve8IKe53O468sqVdEY9Mp BtDU7Iow9pq/FEdm/ygzKANDCZNf059z+oHEqkn04vHnzGmLq3NhEi9/3PD8iPU7Q1YU lYwg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw11161MwqdgRmGsCmk8UFUZPWxf6nzlCkB1cKK7EK/PRb2lggDbVg 5LsDDKHqgRgb7LsTGzdxAj25KLpFs5g2rl8= X-Received: by 10.36.175.73 with SMTP id l9mr11654305iti.102.1499902624641; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.164.26 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:37:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Martin Thomson Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 09:37:04 +1000 Message-ID: To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Link to current list of IAB members X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: RFC Interest Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 13 July 2017 at 09:14, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) wrote: > On 7/12/17 3:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: >> If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it would >> be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members >> somewhere so that I can put that in the tool. > > Are you thinking something like a processing instruction? XInclude would work if someone were to host a file with that list. Given how often the IAB publishes something, it might be over-optimizing though. _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Wed Jul 12 17:16:44 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDB512EC49 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tBlW68wiehYU for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FF73131703 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BC0B80DB4; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F50B80DB4; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Authentication-Results: rfcpa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74D_yCEzGrWO; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x22e.google.com (mail-lf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 636EDB80DB2; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id h22so27698964lfk.3; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=q7uoUGnx88tEDP0m941eR9MYSQT2KaNVWCdQemYGbkE=; b=aUGCjfjJw7DfBwf8QZP7uy8FLhUQehBRtEhmVuEp0vphj0n3xhd+qMNRpQ0oVeA4cx pUMZ0CPsGghqAQnz8WP6mc2DNgWktfkgAzXFGspZ+zburOnLiasbjjhyy1tq6DJpqzUg 8FHMlXDGrp86VmQvaR5aNaGqoGb+Zswwd/BSD66OQ7530e7GcE5lEpzmNgKzBnLk2I47 9zcbLoAMAB7Z+iZBllWN4A1SMK7ZlhKUe8iseyg9GwXuyS9DPQ6AP4PHJbWSiVpN/gd0 mp65giXwOKip0wrk//5AyjZ6gpxl+CMnTS3J04tuHEKSexkTeHdnVjhal+AgFy1j4IE0 x/Wg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=q7uoUGnx88tEDP0m941eR9MYSQT2KaNVWCdQemYGbkE=; b=pOJZBSXy5OiVdXhTVq7dmiL6OLRBJ5GTKboB63cY0b0A/+vlLVmJ3QxHb8kMcT9+GR stTWnvyWGcBwpgu0/GC60qic6rv1TCgtFQpxfiWV/vW8N0mwZBXMxC3/yB0h4bpbHC4g WHcA0Sbq7H4KaTUids5f17lEgX831PTCO0vJhZSGIK+JzhQNMpA+UOigIoU6sLe1K7Dh O30sRO2W2jtC4Gzq3qosv1/pylQOxqbykEXUOqKauMjpC2+xONueO4nkgdCvNAYpeQAr c5Wh1vYDQfOaO7965pWK6fXs7WWXnfCciieZU1QVNOWsxytFfD1E2wFKx8f9e1fVadzV 79IA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw113tWtpU6MEk6x/iXo6uqq5qq4RHkR1+rWQ4fOA4q863cH38dykJ sydQPlJO575myyjd0PmKPetKXcqcVw== X-Received: by 10.25.233.219 with SMTP id j88mr332595lfk.64.1499904995728; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.181.214 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:16:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Phillip Hallam-Baker Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:16:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZKtCVgfd3J1GbheefNC8fDbZRAE Message-ID: To: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Link to current list of IAB members X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0238360514077344426==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============0238360514077344426== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1149776a77a2f6055427d843" --001a1149776a77a2f6055427d843 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) < rse@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > On 7/12/17 3:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it would > > be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members > > somewhere so that I can put that in the tool. > > > > Otherwise, I think you would want to modify the xml2rfc schema to > > include the info. > > > > Are you thinking something like a processing instruction? > =E2=80=8BOh please no. Processing instructions are bogus. I was thinking a element would be the most general way to express the information. Which I will actually need for OASIS docs anyway.= =E2=80=8B --001a1149776a77a2f6055427d843 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Ju= l 12, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) <rse@rfc-edit= or.org> wrote:
On 7/12/17 3:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrot= e:
> If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it woul= d
> be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members
> somewhere so that I can put that in the tool.
>
> Otherwise, I think you would want to modify the xml2rfc schema to
> include the info.
>

Are you thinking something like a processing instruction?

=E2=80=8BOh please no. Processing instructions are bogus.
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">
I was thinking a <contribut= or> element would be the most general way to express the information. Wh= ich I will actually need for OASIS docs anyway.=E2=80=8B

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: RFC Interest , "Heather Flanagan \(RFC Series Editor\)" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0824819651082497679==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============0824819651082497679== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045fbd0c43fa9f055427e1f8" --f403045fbd0c43fa9f055427e1f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 13 July 2017 at 09:14, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor) > wrote: > > On 7/12/17 3:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > >> If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it woul= d > >> be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members > >> somewhere so that I can put that in the tool. > > > > Are you thinking something like a processing instruction? > > XInclude would work if someone were to host a file with that list. > Given how often the IAB publishes something, it might be > over-optimizing though. > > =E2=80=8BIAB changes much less frequently than I recompile code. XInclude to a document containing a list of elements would work. Or we could use and define contributor as a role. That would require least change to the schema. BTW, I have the schema converted to XSD if anyone needs it.=E2=80=8B --f403045fbd0c43fa9f055427e1f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Ju= l 12, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com= > wrote:
On 13 July 2017 at 09:= 14, Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)
<rse@rfc-editor.o= rg> wrote:
> On 7/12/17 3:15 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>> If people would like the IAB boilerplate to be done correctly, it = would
>> be nice if there was a preset link to the current list of members<= br> >> somewhere so that I can put that in the tool.
>
> Are you thinking something like a processing i= nstruction?

XInclude would work if someone were to host a file with that list. Given how often the IAB publishes something, it might be
over-optimizing though.

<= br>
=E2=80=8BIA= B changes much less frequently than I recompile code.

XInclude to a document containing a list of &l= t;contributor> elements would work.

Or we could use <author> and define contributor as a ro= le. That would require least change to the schema.


BTW, I have the schema converted to XSD if anyone needs it.= =E2=80=8B
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2545858009600040652==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============2545858009600040652== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11402280460e11055433ab96" --001a11402280460e11055433ab96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I would like the xml2rfc schema to separate the declaration of the document name and version number for drafts. The reason I have always made this division in my tools is that I can't be bothered to track version numbers. Updating them is a chore, I always have to check to see whether I did it. That is something that must be done by a machine, not the user. So today's hack is going to be implementing that for Markdown and Word input streams. I realized I already have most of the code. This would require some change to SeriesInfo. --001a11402280460e11055433ab96 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I w= ould like the xml2rfc schema to separate the declaration of the document na= me and version number for drafts.=C2=A0

The reason I have always made this division in my tools is t= hat I can't be bothered to track version numbers. Updating them is a ch= ore, I always have to check to see whether I did it. That is something that= must be done by a machine, not the user.

So today's hack is going to be implementing that for M= arkdown and Word input streams. I realized I already have most of the code.=


This would require some change to = SeriesInfo.
--001a11402280460e11055433ab96-- --===============2545858009600040652== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest --===============2545858009600040652==-- From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Thu Jul 13 07:37:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A019B1316C1 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pvImiPZlh1OH for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 208E812EB5D for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80302B81824; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87145B81823 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YCBX8QGrhLYO for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A70F7B81822 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.34] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0McEkx-1dCCqv1KfH-00Jd4w; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:37:42 +0200 To: Phillip Hallam-Baker , "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" References: From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <0c897a10-b393-42af-e1fa-53770833e896@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:37:42 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GjxIX/Xow1py4kw6zk83VE3g0ayczkdb1+LVvGV040uvCopNjAg 8diAAUYOziGSAQuBX4IwhCs/pMQu8P4FgAH5l+NiJIm8ZjptlRA5CVbImFrieDRzf0ql2t1 OmRaBS5wpXwv6t6QTs2KpYZ8IOQhpkFbzevWuf4c0ztwM0xGBXn1rqYW5YVG/xg7pyFoGs0 ij586SOCIF066Tm4KNY4A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:6ZpPcofFaes=:J9FfPPmeI52L2W89WggSs6 fL28optc+3lpONKuq05AUj6ab0S7ywoCFcFIl9FbUbt0RaelRZdaYiKRi0VDeyu901J57PWYb wKmB/rzSXoCpaDJuSDqtwEV5qtYhnNcPLPHWFBPUiI2TcQBbdBMoH1Pa/Q0Weq5kQZxwf575Z vQADXRq0VuLEgZIjdTTVA747AAO9hp6leXA9wvRA2lLYFCRZ0XWGuJJrwI3gpNza70SxIyi5C 4xbuI5N2WRPo3hdFKZNKGn9tWQyjyMy7shZzRE92qz05XDq3iBFUfzzEqpcL//kSbcOWTg0Py 5DFf96zZU+2a1/vC8xRhSCr5lvf9i1JEmewkliSEjb1RiPxfxGrIwhu+MpBKT3SchEchqcI9B RVql1Vt/wgly21u+WOO7G+539PHJbKTcEinkqLhVx9VrflAOyNjMI2ppXU/XFgHW2509HEmn9 XOgvKzZIxIsavQk7BwKppC+SA4jbIExdWGDz8qUHcE9soqt2AeffP4iftZAVIQiT82cnwK2gL a5PUktj4dBlObKTMEzRQtfOMndPXPYQQoItRjYSBE9MYAsk6UbcM/2An5vvNVNPIW07D86TFn jIMyALnUISibBEni57jLKc4AmTp5z3pPJRVu+NR2fR7uG/osodKq26IKMyrJttEbV9dd7Mkm6 +rwJMTf71FVvCbnWwSg7UDHLnQn0ZAek2tcQwenZdFSgpRc+9tmiES0C5l8+D0MUcTWh5ve87 Na3EoHnZAoJGTv973WDK/2gRgZo9++KTkaeizkcEWLijFBgj4yfdkUEfl53W8Z0/uSdfrzNfR smIgsjZ108XCt/+/GAmQ+Bpn80LfWa8gGhJgHUWQebhf1d7uX0= Subject: Re: [rfc-i] xml2rfc schema for draft version X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 2017-07-13 16:22, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > I would like the xml2rfc schema to separate the declaration of the > document name and version number for drafts. > > The reason I have always made this division in my tools is that I can't > be bothered to track version numbers. Updating them is a chore, I always > have to check to see whether I did it. That is something that must be > done by a machine, not the user. > > So today's hack is going to be implementing that for Markdown and Word > input streams. I realized I already have most of the code. > > > This would require some change to SeriesInfo. This should be discussed on xml2rfc or xml2rfc-dev. (FWIW, we tried not to change things that aren't broken, and I don't believe that the current format is broken enough to justify a change) Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Thu Jul 13 10:15:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFB5129AFF for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cOJFkydy3Dy2 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95F11131713 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED23DB81630; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC321B81630 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WdmWsmK9pHHA for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E118B8162E for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB4E1CA5BB for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6ZPZtztMi7QN for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-73-181-135-61.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.181.135.61]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 897CF1CA551 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT) To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org References: From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:15:24 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Is RFC 7841 a normative reference? X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 7/12/17 3:10 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > RFC 7841 requires this sort of text in the boilerplate: > > > > For IETF stream documents, a similar reference is added: "Further > information on (BCPs or Internet Standards) is available in Section 2 of RFC 7841 ." for BCP and Standard Track documents; "Not all > documents approved by the IESG are a candidate for any level of > Internet Standards; see Section 2 of RFC 7841 ." for all other > categories. > > > The precise boilerplate differs but they all require something. > > > Should I add this as a normative or an informative reference? I think it > > should be normative but the text does not make this clear. > > > In my document prep system, it has to be entered as one or the other in the > > catalog to create the link. > > Hi Phil, The RFCs noted in boilerplate don't go in the references at all, unless they are also listed in the main body of the document. -Heather _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Thu Jul 13 23:13:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363B712EC33 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.891 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)" header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O5_dx79qGX2J for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B922212EC02 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0A6B8110C; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18445B8110C for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Authentication-Results: rfcpa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mFqQzAssrv9l for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D00D7B8110A for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id k192so14711159ith.1 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=KOLFQT66U1t/KsumGnk1QCSsECVG2qBqVV4yX4jGpGI=; b=k9AmuKbsu6lwhelUcFlcMtrkmMyUGL0pqj6FVxtCudOdUZ8RvI37a9pHYmS0kg+MWQ aLQfDyaMPN9Blrz69RXzLy46nETP2esVPa+Xoentxjd4bovlJbrwrpXXnPbtb0GpQ9OK URBZjjrPbY2bm0e0DuJJi3aRmwZCtnVHzpKA7ZoVge74tt1dCtFNQmudZ8uQDA1zggXF izHlESRZq6F1MTpjnahqwTbOpwxEWdZZbXFwH6TYf8lP4sr/2Ej3Zaa3Cwq2nJ1ol+qb K0knDsBVP3lWtChQPLJf4cdGCkh3fj4akcl8AylcDVdl+TTMep7yPxOxKQTNmEQSoFjv mdug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=KOLFQT66U1t/KsumGnk1QCSsECVG2qBqVV4yX4jGpGI=; b=lcZcpcBcmL+vm6JSBhJx7mufLoXkjdpjasKgdJdAnoaACf1EAeIZiYST5cqfqXPhyQ WR4MsOLcUzY02tC+LCX3osjy/tn+XgBXNaoOPLoZvVf18cplvOv1/QxToTzD4ZkXcNoa zkxQ2n3v4U0BEpc/7PdZWkd476F6uytt+cpPD8qD+uT3Dio/7ykdepBByz5K1Jh53ko8 mmtj4YNIg87aoq8RdDBsIDdaRVBhEzzFstc/yvaRR2mHLNM7LiRgbijHCJ9bmRg7wJQX quB8qqPWftDTvG3f9JEotqna/b7LhtNjiTaCSLJDPhpQFhAdyAFz7i3SJPMsPbKCCvAc JUdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112AhVFAtRV6ZN7Yesd5SmeATnh5GbIx/gspcQhEziGctafmA78h dbW9uPTvcIgXuhtaHJ85nO1Z/h2Qiw== X-Received: by 10.36.110.23 with SMTP id w23mr2396509itc.24.1500012805210; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.164.26 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:13:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Martin Thomson Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:13:24 +1000 Message-ID: To: Phillip Hallam-Baker Subject: Re: [rfc-i] xml2rfc schema for draft version X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." 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" -00 to -01: Citation tag requirements more tightly specified; index moved; new errata URI added; capitalization of working/research group specified" -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-flanagan-7322bis-01.txt Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 00:56:44 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: RFC Editor , Heather Flanagan , Sandy Ginoza A new version of I-D, draft-flanagan-7322bis-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Heather Flanagan and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-flanagan-7322bis Revision: 01 Title: RFC Style Guide Document date: 2017-07-17 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 27 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-flanagan-7322bis-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-flanagan-7322bis/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-flanagan-7322bis-01 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-flanagan-7322bis-01 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-flanagan-7322bis-01 Abstract: This document describes the fundamental and unique style conventions and editorial policies currently in use for the RFC Series. It captures the RFC Editor's basic requirements and offers guidance regarding the style and structure of an RFC. Additional guidance is captured on a website that reflects the experimental nature of that guidance and prepares it for future inclusion in the RFC Style Guide. This document obsoletes RFC 7322, "RFC Style Guide". 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Name:		draft-flanagan-7322bis
Revision:	01
Title:		RFC Style Guide
Document date:	2017-07-17
Group:		Individual Submission
Pages:		27
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-flanagan-7322bis-01.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-flanagan-7322bis/
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Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-flanagan-7322bis-01
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Abstract:
   This document describes the fundamental and unique style conventions
   and editorial policies currently in use for the RFC Series.  It
   captures the RFC Editor's basic requirements and offers guidance
   regarding the style and structure of an RFC.  Additional guidance is
   captured on a website that reflects the experimental nature of that
   guidance and prepares it for future inclusion in the RFC Style Guide.
   This document obsoletes RFC 7322, "RFC Style Guide".

                                                                                  


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Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:49:36 +0000 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Thread-Topic: Full author names in rfc-index.xml? 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X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1778404291496105387==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============1778404291496105387== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7C6D2207-81FC-415D-991A-8FD0669AABDA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 --Apple-Mail=_7C6D2207-81FC-415D-991A-8FD0669AABDA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, rfc-index.xml traditionally has only included first name initials. Since = the datatracker has had full author names for a while now, would it be = possible to include those in rfc-index.xml? Gives more complete = information for tools that operate on rfc-index.xml. 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X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 2017-07-25 15:49, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, > > rfc-index.xml traditionally has only included first name initials. Since the datatracker has had full author names for a while now, would it be possible to include those in rfc-index.xml? Gives more complete information for tools that operate on rfc-index.xml. > > Lars FWIW, it should contain sufficient information to produce citations - this includes separating last names from initials as well. 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X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7691098173070495952==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============7691098173070495952== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C53BDC8D-9F76-4EE8-B6EA-C8E691B83FB3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 --Apple-Mail=_C53BDC8D-9F76-4EE8-B6EA-C8E691B83FB3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 2017-7-25, at 16:23, Julian Reschke wrote: > FWIW, it should contain sufficient information to produce citations - = this includes separating last names from initials as well. Agreed. 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X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" Since the data tracker (in my understanding) handles this, the ask is simply use use the information there to populate the RFC index. (I think it is auto-generated based on data tracker info anyway now.) -- Sent from a mobile device; please excuse typos. +49 151 120 55791 > On Jul 25, 2017, at 22:35, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> On 26/07/2017 02:31, Eggert, Lars wrote: >>> On 2017-7-25, at 16:23, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> FWIW, it should contain sufficient information to produce citations - this includes separating last names from initials as well. > > And it needs to handle all cases: Jordi Palet Martinez a.k.a. J. Palet for example, > preferences such as family name coming first in some languages, and certainly more > obscure special cases too. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest