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Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B13B81DE4 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:03:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0U5_fXM70BUj for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 321EEB81DE2 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jude (192.168.0.11) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1347.2; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:02:46 -0800 From: Jim Schaad To: Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:03:57 -0800 Message-ID: <032101d36f96$85be86f0$913b94d0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdNvleie7D0MIVnmTd+TyzQSNBPB/g== Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [192.168.0.11] Subject: [rfc-i] SVG elements not removed X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3052737535578324536==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============3052737535578324536== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0322_01D36F53.779CCD90" Content-Language: en-us ------=_NextPart_000_0322_01D36F53.779CCD90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am taking a closer look at all of the SVG elements that are labeled as out of bounds for RFCs. In looking through things I came across linearGradient and radialGradient. I am wondering why these elements are not also ruled as being out of bounds. The rule that was applied was that the only colors that are to be used are black and white with no gray scaling. Both of these elements would introduce grays into the system as they provide for an object to be painted with a gradient of color from black to white across the object. This means that the middle would be gray. Was not ruling these elements out an oversight or was it intentional? Jim ------=_NextPart_000_0322_01D36F53.779CCD90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am taking a closer look at all of the SVG elements = that are labeled as out of bounds for RFCs.  In looking through = things I came across linearGradient and radialGradient.  I am = wondering why these elements are not also ruled as being out of = bounds. 

 

The rule = that was applied was that the only colors that are to be used are black = and white with no gray scaling.  Both of these elements would = introduce grays into the system as they provide for an object to be = painted with a gradient of color from black to white across the = object.  This means that the middle would be gray.

 

Was not = ruling these elements out an oversight or was it = intentional?

 

Jim

 

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X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4641635438386760553==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============4641635438386760553== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113faf50f2fdd1055fc905d6" --001a113faf50f2fdd1055fc905d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi RFC folks, We noticed in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2017OctDec/0401.html that some drafts ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame-04#section-1, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-expect-ct-02#page-5) have text like "([RFC7540], Section 9.1.2)" or "Section 3.2.6 of RFC 7230" deep-linked to the right section in the target RFC, while other drafts ( https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-01.html#proposal), the editors' draft at http://httpwg.org/http-extensions/origin-frame.html#introduction, and the output of https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc-dev.cgi?url=https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/raw/master/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame.md&inputtype=kramdown&modeAsFormat=html/ascii#the-origin-http2-frame don't have these deep links. 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Hi RFC folks,

We noticed in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2017OctDec= /0401.html that some drafts (https://tools.= ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame-04#section-1, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-expect-ct-02#pag= e-5) have text like "([RFC7540], Section 9.1.2)" or "Sec= tion 3.2.6 of RFC 7230" deep-linked to the right section in the target= RFC, while other drafts (https://= tools.ietf.org/id/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-01.html#propos= al), the editors' draft at http://httpwg.org/ht= tp-extensions/origin-frame.html#introduction, and the output of https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc-dev= .cgi?url=3Dhttps://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/raw/master/draft-ietf-= httpbis-origin-frame.md&inputtype=3Dkramdown&modeAsFormat=3Dhtml/as= cii#the-origin-http2-frame don't have these deep links.
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What's the right way to get deep links to sections from k= ramdown-rfc2629 source?

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Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:45:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9FC5EDD7-BCC4-4DF9-9671-3BBDDDD581D3@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <9FC5EDD7-BCC4-4DF9-9671-3BBDDDD581D3@tzi.org> From: Jeffrey Yasskin Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:45:25 +0000 Message-ID: To: Carsten Bormann Subject: Re: [rfc-i] How do drafts get section links? X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: rfc-markdown@ietf.org, rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0045724546803970563==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============0045724546803970563== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c188716045531055fccdb44" --94eb2c188716045531055fccdb44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:47 PM Carsten Bormann wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > On Dec 8, 2017, at 01:11, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > > > > What's the right way to get deep links to sections from kramdown-rfc262= 9 > source? > > (Sections of other documents, that is.) > > RFCXML version 2 has no way to do this, so kramdown-rfc doesn=E2=80=99t s= upport it. > Yeah, I mostly mentioned kramdown-rfc to make sure any answers like "use https://www.greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629xslt.html#ext-rfc2= 629.xref" included instructions for how to get the right attributes into the XML from .md source. So why are you seeing links on tools.ietf.org (and only there) where there > aren=E2=80=99t any? > The .txt to .html converter at tools.ietf.org has some heuristics that > allow it to identify references to sections of other RFCs. These > heuristics sometimes fail to notice (and famously sometimes point to the > wrong document, leading to spurious errata about problems that aren=E2=80= =99t even > in the RFC), but they are better than nothing. > Ah, I see: https://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup/ does this for URLs under https://tools.ietf.org/html/, but the id/ URLs only use xml2rfc or rfc2629.xslt and so don't get the benefit. That answers my question of how to test that my source gives the right section links, and in fact https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-01#s= ection-2 has decent deep links, while https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame-04.html#rfc.secti= on.1 doesn't. I'm happy to conclude that my mistake was in sending out the wrong links, and that this list doesn't need to do anything until RFCXML v3 support comes along. Now how is the syntax for deep links into documents going to look like in > kramdown-rfc when we add RFCXML v3 support? > I don=E2=80=99t know yet. But I note that essentially the same heuristic= s that > work on .txt files on tools.ietf.org might work in a markdown source > document (and, if they don=E2=80=99t, the author can still set a manual x= ref [er, > relref, if that thing stays in v3]). > (https://github.com/rfc-format/draft-iab-xml2rfc-v3-bis/issues/26) (CCing rfc-markdown, as the question is of interest there, too; please trim > the CC list if you just want to vent about relref, as you probably should > at this point.) Thanks, Jeffrey --94eb2c188716045531055fccdb44 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Dec 7,= 2017 at 4:47 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
Hi Jeffrey,

On Dec 8, 2017, at 01:11, Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> What's the right way to get deep links to sections from kramdown-r= fc2629 source?

(Sections of other documents, that is.)

RFCXML version 2 has no way to do this, so kramdown-rfc doesn=E2=80=99t sup= port it.

Yeah, I mostly mentioned kramd= own-rfc=C2=A0to make sure any answers like "use https://www.greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc2629xslt/rfc2629x= slt.html#ext-rfc2629.xref" included instructions for how to get th= e right attributes into the XML from .md source.

So why are you seeing links on tools.ietf.org (and only there) where there = aren=E2=80=99t any?
The .txt to .html converter at tools.ietf.org has some heuristics that allo= w it to identify references to sections of other RFCs.=C2=A0 These heuristi= cs sometimes fail to notice (and famously sometimes point to the wrong docu= ment, leading to spurious errata about problems that aren=E2=80=99t even in= the RFC), but they are better than nothing.

Ah, I see:=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcmarkup/ does this for = URLs under https= ://tools.ietf.org/html/, but the id/ URLs only use xml2rfc or rfc2629.x= slt=C2=A0and so don't get the benefit. That answers my question of how = to test that my source gives the right section links, and in fact https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yasskin-h= ttp-origin-signed-responses-01#section-2 has decent deep links, while <= a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame-04.html= #rfc.section.1" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-http= bis-origin-frame-04.html#rfc.section.1 doesn't.

I'm happy to conclude that my mistake was in sending out the wron= g links, and that this list doesn't need to do anything until RFCXML v3= support comes along.

Now how is the syntax for deep links into documents going to look like in k= ramdown-rfc when we add RFCXML v3 support?
I don=E2=80=99t know yet.=C2=A0 But I note that essentially the same heuris= tics that work on .txt files on tools.ietf.org might work in a markdown sou= rce document (and, if they don=E2=80=99t, the author can still set a manual= xref [er, relref, if that thing stays in v3]).


(CCing rfc-markdown, a= s the question is of interest there, too; please trim the CC list if you ju= st want to vent about relref, as you probably should at this point.)=

Thanks,
Jeffrey
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 2017-12-08 01:11, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > Hi RFC folks, > > We noticed in > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2017OctDec/0401.html > that some drafts > (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame-04#section-1, > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-expect-ct-02#page-5) have > text like "([RFC7540], Section 9.1.2)" or "Section 3.2.6 of RFC 7230" > deep-linked to the right section in the target RFC, while other drafts > (https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-yasskin-http-origin-signed-responses-01.html#proposal), > the editors' draft at > http://httpwg.org/http-extensions/origin-frame.html#introduction, and > the output of > https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc-dev.cgi?url=https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/raw/master/draft-ietf-httpbis-origin-frame.md&inputtype=kramdown&modeAsFormat=html/ascii#the-origin-http2-frame > don't have these deep links. > > What's the right way to get deep links to sections from kramdown-rfc2629 > source? > > Thanks, > Jeffrey These are produced by different processors: - rfcmarkup operates on plain text source and attempts to add the links; most of the times it gets it right, but only most of the time - xml2rfc operates on the XML, which currently has no way to express this (without extensions), and does not attempt heuristics - rfc2629.xslt operates on the XML and supports this through an extension, but kramdown-rfc would need to use it That said, I'm experimenting with a post processor that applies these heuristics at the XML level; see for instance . Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Mon Dec 11 14:03:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483B1200F1 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:03:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=auckland.ac.nz Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svNEybxnSzCe for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5CF126557 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D67B80C84; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:02:51 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC94BB80C84 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:02:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Authentication-Results: rfcpa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=auckland.ac.nz Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Jjhg8Lgsb46 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3-int.auckland.ac.nz (mx3-int.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.125.244]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3DEFB80C81 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 14:02:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=auckland.ac.nz; i=@auckland.ac.nz; q=dns/txt; s=mail; t=1513029790; x=1544565790; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KR868dKMyuTjEsrcdP7bTAOqd4kePsa+7oQPmk25hGY=; b=WRRi94cvlawrFmC0iKokQJ7LeR3QpUPZrlDipn+aVpxmAHZBtRmumr2z no/0L/P4s3o4Waa4kZxSdiT4xvBCwzwB7yRZYEfUMJqeYs2RzylJU/RTl 2a8/89mnCjANNljwIMIgRwmXRDcj9lXJ3V2u3ubA76Y0AqynvE2E3d9TF HsPBGIdjTPq/7xKQQPJHXHJED1nzBY8i5ww4OiV/L3ORBq/ZXvghAoOAZ hctebv2GmOSc8sOhtL/3cTfmOczhgVCVKpynw8X/N34xUApHKK8CbDSEI AHPDuVfGHCpaPT3f7i3YF9lLbDsexlXYHpYw3fgElu+meBIHZtegwk9zT g==; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.45,393,1508756400"; d="scan'208";a="3878862" X-Ironport-HAT: UNIVERSITY - $RELAY-THROTTLE X-Ironport-Source: 130.216.38.13 - Outgoing - Outgoing-SSL Received: from sc-cs-316051.uoa.auckland.ac.nz (HELO [130.216.38.13]) ([130.216.38.13]) by mx3-int.auckland.ac.nz with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2017 11:03:02 +1300 To: Jim Schaad References: <032101d36f96$85be86f0$913b94d0$@augustcellars.com> From: Nevil Brownlee Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 11:03:01 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <032101d36f96$85be86f0$913b94d0$@augustcellars.com> Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [rfc-i] SVG elements not removed X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" Hi Jim: Hmm, looking back through my svg-check.py code, I see that I left the colour grey (an all the various html ways of specifying it) in for SVG-RFC, along with linearGradient and radialGradient. My recollection is that not allowing colour was an access consideration, but - to me at least - allowing shades of grey would be OK. If we agree that they shouldn't be there, I can certainly take them out of a new draft, and out of the rnc syntax. Heather, what's your opinion on this? Cheers, Nevil On 8/12/17 9:03 am, Jim Schaad wrote: > I am taking a closer look at all of the SVG elements that are labeled as out > of bounds for RFCs. In looking through things I came across linearGradient > and radialGradient. I am wondering why these elements are not also ruled as > being out of bounds. > > > > The rule that was applied was that the only colors that are to be used are > black and white with no gray scaling. Both of these elements would > introduce grays into the system as they provide for an object to be painted > with a gradient of color from black to white across the object. This means > that the middle would be gray. > > > > Was not ruling these elements out an oversight or was it intentional? > > > > Jim > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Mon Dec 11 15:57:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C2B128B91 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:57:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uCCXIfC7at7w for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65C931276AF for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8ABB80DCE; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:56:45 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876C4B80DCE for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:56:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iaCUgqImPF4w for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0a-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330E6B80DCD for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049463.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049463.ppops.net-00191d01. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" I personally think shades of gray should be okay. Tony On 12/11/17, 5:03 PM, "rfc-interest on behalf of Nevil Brownlee" wrote: Hi Jim: Hmm, looking back through my svg-check.py code, I see that I left the colour grey (an all the various html ways of specifying it) in for SVG-RFC, along with linearGradient and radialGradient. My recollection is that not allowing colour was an access consideration, but - to me at least - allowing shades of grey would be OK. If we agree that they shouldn't be there, I can certainly take them out of a new draft, and out of the rnc syntax. Heather, what's your opinion on this? Cheers, Nevil On 8/12/17 9:03 am, Jim Schaad wrote: > I am taking a closer look at all of the SVG elements that are labeled as out > of bounds for RFCs. In looking through things I came across linearGradient > and radialGradient. I am wondering why these elements are not also ruled as > being out of bounds. > > > > The rule that was applied was that the only colors that are to be used are > black and white with no gray scaling. Both of these elements would > introduce grays into the system as they provide for an object to be painted > with a gradient of color from black to white across the object. This means > that the middle would be gray. > > > > Was not ruling these elements out an oversight or was it intentional? > > > > Jim > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.rfc-2Deditor.org_mailman_listinfo_rfc-2Dinterest&d=DwICAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=Kz8VdgPVctDNSNPJ6PsBaw&m=6VvRH-2JKXDiXhR8Gt4p8xoI03QVw5j4VjE-xDJCtY0&s=kH60iObpZ6FW--_ftatXJRi4qdzsH1mH-Us2sF6II5o&e= > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Nevil Brownlee Computer Science Department Phone: +64 9 373 7599 x88941 The University of Auckland FAX: +64 9 373 7453 Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.rfc-2Deditor.org_mailman_listinfo_rfc-2Dinterest&d=DwICAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=Kz8VdgPVctDNSNPJ6PsBaw&m=6VvRH-2JKXDiXhR8Gt4p8xoI03QVw5j4VjE-xDJCtY0&s=kH60iObpZ6FW--_ftatXJRi4qdzsH1mH-Us2sF6II5o&e= _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Mon Dec 11 17:00:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDDE128D64 for ; 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Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:00:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.66.145 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:00:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2E2737E2-DE45-4612-A03D-B588A691B988@att.com> References: <032101d36f96$85be86f0$913b94d0$@augustcellars.com> <2E2737E2-DE45-4612-A03D-B588A691B988@att.com> From: Phillip Hallam-Baker Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:00:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hLfIeaO2sd4vgREjk-SDdsKcLOg Message-ID: To: "HANSEN, TONY L" Subject: Re: [rfc-i] SVG elements not removed X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4381072296728725662==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============4381072296728725662== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1141fb7cab17db05601a2e57" --001a1141fb7cab17db05601a2e57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:56 PM, HANSEN, TONY L wrote: > I personally think shades of gray should be okay. > > Tony =E2=80=8BPerhaps limit them to a set number of discrete values? Fifty or so= ?=E2=80=8B --001a1141fb7cab17db05601a2e57 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, De= c 11, 2017 at 6:56 PM, HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com> wrote:
I personally think shades of gray should be ok= ay.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Tony

=E2=80=8BPerhaps limit them to a se= t number of discrete values? Fifty or so?=E2=80=8B
--001a1141fb7cab17db05601a2e57-- --===============4381072296728725662== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest --===============4381072296728725662==-- From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Mon Dec 11 17:52:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C55126D05 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:52:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Km4g7wRnaho8 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09778128D6F for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7141B81297; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C80B81297 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:51:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ozGIXklLGxY for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.augustcellars.com (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 294FFB81296 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jude (73.180.8.170) by mail2.augustcellars.com (192.168.0.56) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1347.2; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:50:34 -0800 From: Jim Schaad To: References: <032101d36f96$85be86f0$913b94d0$@augustcellars.com> <2E2737E2-DE45-4612-A03D-B588A691B988@att.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:51:47 -0800 Message-ID: <00a901d372eb$c6b38090$541a81b0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJNvKZ/o2DlOCMwPu/IPSCtT2BMvgIU/Wd7AfNoZFABWmepnqIfR5QQ Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [73.180.8.170] Subject: Re: [rfc-i] SVG elements not removed X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1629646485668701592==" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" --===============1629646485668701592== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01D372A8.B8921550" Content-Language: en-us ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01D372A8.B8921550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For me the question would be how many different grays will I be able to = distinguish when reading on my kindle. My printer would do a better job = of distinguishing different grays. =20 Jim =20 =20 From: rfc-interest [mailto:rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org] On = Behalf Of Phillip Hallam-Baker Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:01 PM To: HANSEN, TONY L Cc: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Subject: Re: [rfc-i] SVG elements not removed =20 =20 =20 On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:56 PM, HANSEN, TONY L > wrote: I personally think shades of gray should be okay. Tony =20 =E2=80=8BPerhaps limit them to a set number of discrete values? Fifty or = so?=E2=80=8B ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01D372A8.B8921550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For me the = question would be how many different grays will I be able to distinguish = when reading on my kindle.=C2=A0 My printer would do a better job of = distinguishing different grays.

 

Jim

 

 

From: = rfc-interest [mailto:rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org] On Behalf = Of Phillip Hallam-Baker
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 = 5:01 PM
To: HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com>
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On Mon, = Dec 11, 2017 at 6:56 PM, HANSEN, TONY L <tony@att.com> = wrote:

I = personally think shades of gray should be okay.

    =     Tony

 

=E2=80=8BPerhaps = limit them to a set number of discrete values? Fifty or = so?=E2=80=8B

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: RFC Interest Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 12 December 2017 at 11:51, Jim Schaad wrote: > For me the question would be how many different grays will I be able to > distinguish when reading on my kindle. My printer would do a better job of > distinguishing different grays. > Arbitrary straw man: * use the old "web safe" greys: #333333, #666666, #999999, #CCCCCC * allow greyscale gradients from any allowed shade to any other Is anybody concerned about halftoning or stippling or any of that? Cheers -- Matthew Kerwin http://matthew.kerwin.net.au/ _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Tue Dec 12 08:37:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE31294B3 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:37:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tjcfve6InRD0 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62E081294AB for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF8DB817BF; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:59 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D9AB817BF for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rsrk7154h9KH for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (c8a.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 671A5B817BE for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619811C3F62 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eVaEqy5IkrJp for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Heathers-MacBook-Pro.local (c-73-181-135-61.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.181.135.61]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 373491C3F58 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:48 -0800 (PST) To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org References: <032101d36f96$85be86f0$913b94d0$@augustcellars.com> From: "Heather Flanagan (RFC Series Editor)" Message-ID: <58e5051e-5f90-4c90-fa53-0a0cb93a62ec@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:37:21 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [rfc-i] SVG elements not removed X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." 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Jacobsen Editor and Publisher The Internet Protocol Journal Office: +1 415-550-9433 Cell: +1 415-370-4628 Docomo: +81 090 3337-9311 E-mail: olejacobsen@me.com Skype: organdemo _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sun Dec 17 21:03:17 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE5E126E01 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:03:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v4GRAWG-seVS for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AA51126DEE for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9C8B81BC4; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:02:44 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDE0B81BC4 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:02:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MNRG85Fhss2X for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97325B81BC3 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [IPv6:2001:638:a000:4134::ffff:77]) by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9DA58C4C4; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:03:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix, from userid 10463) id 2F4E0B0D4BE; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:03:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:03:03 +0100 From: Toerless Eckert To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Message-ID: <20171218050303.GS19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [rfc-i] rfc-editor: XML tagging question X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" Hi, If this is not the RFC-XML helpline, i would appreciate if you could provide me with a pointer to a more appropriate list. I am trying to create xref to entries in my documents list of terms/acronyms and am dissatisfied with the results. Hopefully there is a better way in RFC-XML to handle this: I have some acronym definition thats has a reference to another acronym: An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate. This is the reference: A provisioned certificate (LDevID) carrying the domain information field which is used by the ACP to learn its address in the ACP and to derive and cryptographically assert its membership in the ACP domain. xml2rfc turns the acronym definition into: ACP address: An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate (Paragraph 21). The html conversion is fine, it converts to "ACP domain certificate" hotlink. The PDF conversion also creates the silly "Paragraph 21" (that is crazy, why not the same hotlink as HTML ?). Instead of "Paragraph 21", i would like to see something like the following in the text version (where obviously threre are no real hotlinks): ...field of the ->ACP domain certificate. ...field of the ->"ACP domain certificate". ...field of the (->ACP domain certificate). etc. pp. Any chance to achieve this - and also get corect hotlinks in HTML / PDF ? If not... whats best practice here ? Thanks! Toerless _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sun Dec 17 21:25:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA51126DFF for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:25:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yqvTQtEFxHVl for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A31F124207 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D40B81CC8; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:24:57 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F86DB81CC8 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:24:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s0PrPox_RKSS for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFCDFB81CC6 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2017 21:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.217.110.247]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MSMKx-1eaxD51lJT-00TWlm; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:25:16 +0100 To: Toerless Eckert , rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org References: <20171218050303.GS19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <59b4aa26-e5e2-800f-4299-b621e5e3cf8d@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:25:00 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171218050303.GS19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:06nJb6ouuP2c3YOH89M9jGA/V+4p2g2sfz1WmjvbDY5Ofix/HeC Nmp8B9De8NtVUXSsP8houMeRHHKzu1JC/PNrSdCVwSaYDZJ6lHOYCQSIQC5FLTG2qKTOOhz gpaTn6mPSlWd90eAg5IA+Jwnxu384FNEQRJQFE/D3xW5r5Hcky/K3yxyo0R1yGz8TxQA/IM ETnvrkaisAlbrzu9L4SHg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:0EA+SeD1aS0=:SBzmBljlYHtYTuDf+0Pxck kV8Du3N2ctcDNC1cyvVTwE53+vFopeZ83cJsvHu+gwr70a96m3JEzFhc8Y4axTyBXygWcpJgI M3anHDiCPtR6Nc0t8eO9aITk/YuLUq09i6ZXkhR/2pCso6iMNqW9P0GgeM3cwHiynMd2gj8Fp F/prkU1FQEmYrbYHT7EUzk1/M3QscRYcZ7qlQFpGbJYxkyUbP9YI47D68ApEE2Ts00+Ewr0NR WF+kZsPoYa4y6sENbt+Hn/eMrm60GLhVWLfFCqoHZSZu4IT+Q9BdxgPEowqAUFCmjHRQs1irM AT/QBirIBi0XqDfLWDnkal15bGi2+83x/rclDRLjdbIbM2ukMVJdFL/pF7MqTnEgYIAmpUdJq a9r9W2oIsVZaExw7m0t0fhXzqSR06yVtW+2rm0yKS8H+vemkbSRrwUZxNAPizmG8zt6dA02Mj mG596oecdkTxjUptq6txLB39OPyQA4CamUIFmYurqbOZiWoMiDiP9aPYcSJvCLcb1QsMSDow0 0jvzl2ViPNmXvdTXf4YpsQzrnewOyj3r8IYe1JPY+440ahWopLK1ZZGvgInZP8jnn85NqnyBF ZaPoJ1TWHGMuLzuw4uOnRYRr8vCYNqk4QkbdP5a0YlAr9IpMOa5kW9vunqyKO3SPHThCYMF89 d9TvEPv/Y46LlEyh3eV2FEHAi1P+bT3niAALp4wCz4/uTNluv8XdD5N06LmaQ554FrnGfYj8m NVrK2h8PJmzGwZRt2GxCNG2klIE5c0Q0b446ViKwx8xXRoC2WOsKaSQ9E9VU58soOexCOMtYt XFmjwVA6vKbxUsedlrQOPjryI0mf1X59IwGv0xeE5B4+oSTci+a1xN+h7XnMqPiUA+DpOCv0M e4H/QaOQToK78NIGbcQRWFMbzm5pChG+0zVbggy+cgsLPtUpZh1YGJ/PcoY1eVo/NDECVNYau SuJRbPdNmDb4XAX90FZM0DAa9a8hmDrhvMu+zsZ14HLxguZcn2QYTJJ68kLsxGzGUhrlTbWYE LgVz2ez8qc9N4SLqfFUxfBDHHcRpr6iD0/apa4lU6uO4xzwgsB+qjrj0j2ToV1pKF5fKx+dRN o7JSr+L/tURSnk= Subject: Re: [rfc-i] rfc-editor: XML tagging question X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 2017-12-18 06:03, Toerless Eckert wrote: > Hi, > > If this is not the RFC-XML helpline, i would appreciate if you could provide me with a pointer to a more appropriate list. > > I am trying to create xref to entries in my documents list of terms/acronyms and am dissatisfied with the results. Hopefully there is a better way in RFC-XML to handle this: > > I have some acronym definition thats has a reference to another acronym: > > An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate. > > This is the reference: > > A provisioned certificate (LDevID) carrying the domain information field which is used by the ACP to learn its address in the ACP and to derive and cryptographically assert its membership in the ACP domain. > > xml2rfc turns the acronym definition into: > > ACP address: An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate (Paragraph 21). > > The html conversion is fine, it converts to "ACP domain certificate" hotlink. > > The PDF conversion also creates the silly "Paragraph 21" (that is crazy, why not the same hotlink as HTML ?). > > Instead of "Paragraph 21", i would like to see something like the following in the text version (where obviously threre are no real hotlinks): > > ...field of the ->ACP domain certificate. > ...field of the ->"ACP domain certificate". > ...field of the (->ACP domain certificate). > > etc. pp. Well, links to paragraphs are indeed severely limited wrt what text is generated. Vocabulary-wise, using "format='title'" (in the <) might be closed to what you want - but I doubt any of the xml2rfc processors will use the hangText as title - but it might be an improvement you may want to ask for. > Any chance to achieve this - and also get corect hotlinks in HTML / PDF ? > ... Which PDF conversion are you trying? Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Mon Dec 18 03:58:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860E3129501 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WIZjXC1BK1p4 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BA241228BB for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64570B80DB3; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:23 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19974B80DB3 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TekcN8h_RVF9 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [IPv6:2001:638:a000:4134::ffff:40]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4F26B80DB2 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 03:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [IPv6:2001:638:a000:4134::ffff:77]) by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48D258C4C4; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:58:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix, from userid 10463) id AB1FEB0D4BF; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:58:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:58:43 +0100 From: Toerless Eckert To: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <20171218115843.GT19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> References: <20171218050303.GS19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <59b4aa26-e5e2-800f-4299-b621e5e3cf8d@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <59b4aa26-e5e2-800f-4299-b621e5e3cf8d@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [rfc-i] rfc-editor: XML tagging question X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 06:25:00AM +0100, Julian Reschke wrote: > >Hi, > > > >If this is not the RFC-XML helpline, i would appreciate if you could provide me with a pointer to a more appropriate list. > > > >I am trying to create xref to entries in my documents list of terms/acronyms and am dissatisfied with the results. Hopefully there is a better way in RFC-XML to handle this: > > > >I have some acronym definition thats has a reference to another acronym: > > > >An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate. > > > >This is the reference: > > > >A provisioned certificate (LDevID) carrying the domain information field which is used by the ACP to learn its address in the ACP and to derive and cryptographically assert its membership in the ACP domain. > > > >xml2rfc turns the acronym definition into: > > > >ACP address: An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate (Paragraph 21). > > > >The html conversion is fine, it converts to "ACP domain certificate" hotlink. > > > >The PDF conversion also creates the silly "Paragraph 21" (that is crazy, why not the same hotlink as HTML ?). > > > >Instead of "Paragraph 21", i would like to see something like the following in the text version (where obviously threre are no real hotlinks): > > > >...field of the ->ACP domain certificate. > >...field of the ->"ACP domain certificate". > >...field of the (->ACP domain certificate). > > > >etc. pp. > > Well, links to paragraphs are indeed severely limited wrt what text is generated. > > Vocabulary-wise, using "format='title'" (in the <) might be > closed to what you want - but I doubt any of the xml2rfc processors > will use the hangText as title - but it might be an improvement you > may want to ask for. 'title' leaves an empty title in text output: ->"ACP domain certificate" ->"ACP domain certificate" () 'none' seems to work fine: ->"ACP domain certificate" The PDF converters are pretty bad (https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/) The PDF text is just a PDF conversion of the traditional text format with courioer font. Nice. But without any hyperlinks. Bad. The PDF HTML conversion is PDF version of the HTML, but the hyperlink for above source does not work. It does work in the HTML, and it does when i convert HTML to PDF myself. Wonder where to send the bug report to.. This still leaves the question what RFC editor would say about above proposed formatting for references to terminology definitions. Don't want to add a bunch of them only to get after IESG feedback the comment from RFC editor that they do not like that format. Cheers Toerless _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest From rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Mon Dec 18 04:08:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-rfc-interest-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9120F12ACAF for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:08:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iXpQwgFfHnHy for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CCF6127023 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfcpa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354D4B80E8F; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:07:52 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Delivered-To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8735B80E8F for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:07:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc-editor.org Received: from rfc-editor.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rfcpa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5OVp_O9KaBu for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by rfc-editor.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA8A7B80E8E for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 04:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.38] ([217.91.35.233]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlXnX-1ey26j2med-00bGzZ; Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:08:14 +0100 To: Toerless Eckert References: <20171218050303.GS19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <59b4aa26-e5e2-800f-4299-b621e5e3cf8d@gmx.de> <20171218115843.GT19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <8d249bd3-2a7c-210d-71ce-28d164776a1d@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 13:08:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171218115843.GT19390@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eVHkvGwPw0NBCGUALBFOCuepsniVVlEa2sY0MBGdATEN+hn38J4 /d6acXC/8lrha9NFS+OelMt1nG5oBX4r8IoygZCQt+vxsOjnp1H6FNBepTruvrTquxB5bmV 29ElAwbjyWDt+5YIv9LmZuWyLI4QLSDWVVSwrR2Wl18TidmMGv3sF7YMr2se2pRHCgvADWo z2BnPXag9TY+uBEMWtc3w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:clNkX9mqRPc=:8vGmlcfcUuUMelVgDyhFdt LG3fTSAYfNCm2oE8ZJhLW21vMRLllgFVTO5paoOM1PD/QFrtDUuQQlN18qbwC4iaWKpPkw9H/ K9ApqNQgs6svsj4ZnsecrIskEhW/TNa1K/NhCEabRJTJ8HwuD+LJ1iPovb8eCV7eV+KGfUjUo h3w+JHFM3bMR8hfungaFY7EPn6Uxuzhv3GOdtqWP83HOYo+1iR+USdRBsZg02PTCQ7v6giQ+n E3GI6qqxiIgtJLWngjSTRD8s+ydHsUmVCkXE2lnbs5ARFDonWUtAKUcPOVWC3rvlCHDBxJfkl wpvEV1/WHM9LH2OjAlVxr8udwXa6shwzr8y7rcU/kM2jVU8WjAkCQ5+2IUCqMvJCU7aFRLMJW bCCDTpNFS58E6O0c8SfVP/oABCVheri5G8nHVhTx7T9Hvnht+YvIyL6wZ15B0iGDRRZky2kUt NbAkTAim0gwOkNiE6ffMcBgje6xzAnu6jHgwHHbnlsXDtbnRkVGKT99Fb10QjSPpQcpMB0Xns 7zZ+eIi7rJOxvem6+pSjlXAPO6k4a6WrNjUFaIBBVI8Kruq9OTkgLIgc39k7TfABWfjwrgnAZ /YqvhBS4lTjov+fZWjq3o4Ond/HQsEDRinJCHcLktYx4+aLXkIvX/ufgQV8mJ+9AfXaF3ftu3 NWF4x4ABp+fQbmC1CEnKyTyAJLUpklOj6eDEFei+WlEXem5/oOMlM3HbGA8ldiCR7D9nI/aOi /xaEDMcohJE+v4G0nrEChTaGVG150VvvJHios+P3ZRzbH4xV9Buu/PKngsC7Qvq+A6dRDf25a P9Wib6UNS5EkJO64J/y/DTlA1ofhT9FTYHAG8ySfHWKMBzVnl0= Subject: Re: [rfc-i] rfc-editor: XML tagging question X-BeenThere: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the RFC series and RFC Editor functions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org Sender: "rfc-interest" On 2017-12-18 12:58, Toerless Eckert wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 06:25:00AM +0100, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> If this is not the RFC-XML helpline, i would appreciate if you could provide me with a pointer to a more appropriate list. >>> >>> I am trying to create xref to entries in my documents list of terms/acronyms and am dissatisfied with the results. Hopefully there is a better way in RFC-XML to handle this: >>> >>> I have some acronym definition thats has a reference to another acronym: >>> >>> An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate. >>> >>> This is the reference: >>> >>> A provisioned certificate (LDevID) carrying the domain information field which is used by the ACP to learn its address in the ACP and to derive and cryptographically assert its membership in the ACP domain. >>> >>> xml2rfc turns the acronym definition into: >>> >>> ACP address: An IPv6 address assigned to the ACP node. It is stored in the domain information field of the ACP domain certificate (Paragraph 21). >>> >>> The html conversion is fine, it converts to "ACP domain certificate" hotlink. >>> >>> The PDF conversion also creates the silly "Paragraph 21" (that is crazy, why not the same hotlink as HTML ?). >>> >>> Instead of "Paragraph 21", i would like to see something like the following in the text version (where obviously threre are no real hotlinks): >>> >>> ...field of the ->ACP domain certificate. >>> ...field of the ->"ACP domain certificate". >>> ...field of the (->ACP domain certificate). >>> >>> etc. pp. >> >> Well, links to paragraphs are indeed severely limited wrt what text is generated. >> >> Vocabulary-wise, using "format='title'" (in the <) might be >> closed to what you want - but I doubt any of the xml2rfc processors >> will use the hangText as title - but it might be an improvement you >> may want to ask for. > > 'title' leaves an empty title in text output: > > ->"ACP domain certificate" > ->"ACP domain certificate" () > > 'none' seems to work fine: > ->"ACP domain certificate" Please open a ticket at . (FWIW, rfc2629.xslt already does this correctly). > The PDF converters are pretty bad (https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/) > > The PDF text is just a PDF conversion of the traditional text format with > courioer font. Nice. But without any hyperlinks. Bad. Have a look at . Best regards, Julian _______________________________________________ rfc-interest mailing list rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest