From paalh@ifi.uio.no Thu Nov 1 06:49:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A896E21F8BF7; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rGvQQOn3VK2Z; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out1.uio.no (mail-out1.uio.no [IPv6:2001:700:100:10::57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2033E21F8BD5; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 06:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-mx2.uio.no ([129.240.10.30]) by mail-out1.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1TTv9d-0001zH-P6; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:49:53 +0100 Received: from ipbfp010-040.kcn.ne.jp ([61.89.102.40] helo=[192.168.24.90]) by mail-mx2.uio.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) user paalh (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TTv9c-0006Bt-PF; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:49:53 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Halvorsen?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 14:49:50 +0100 Message-Id: <637F13A6-45A6-4800-B14E-ACA0CFEF1E06@ifi.uio.no> To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net, iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk, rmcat@ietf.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-UiO-SPF-Received: X-UiO-Ratelimit-Test: rcpts/h 47 msgs/h 17 sum rcpts/h 49 sum msgs/h 19 total rcpts 25327 max rcpts/h 4849 ratelimit 0 X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 1B84527D3E17BAEDEA4B8B22C45270BB4F77D141 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 61.89.102.40 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 80 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 22 total 101 max/h 22 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Subject: [rmcat] NOSSDAV 2013: less than a month until paper deadline (26. November) X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:49:59 -0000 NOSSDAV 2013 - Call for Papers: less than a month until paper deadline = (26. November) NOSSDAV 2013: ACM Workshop on Network and Operating Systems Support=20 for Digital Audio and Video Oslo, Norway, February 26 =97 27, 2013 http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net NEW: Authors of selected good papers will be invited to submit an extended = version of=20 their work and submit it to the ACM Transactions on Multimedia = Computing,=20 Communications and Applications (ACM TOMCCAP) journal. NEW:=20 Dr. Aljosa Smolic (Disney Research Zurich, Switzerland) will give a = keynote=20 entiteled "Advanced 3D Video Processing and Coding" at NOSSDAV 2013.=20 http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net/program.html = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------- As in previous years, NOSSDAV will continue to focus on both established=20= and emerging research topics, high-risk high-return ideas and proposals, = and=20 future research directions in multimedia networking and systems, in a=20 single-track format that encourages active participation and discussions = among academic and industry researchers and practitioners. The workshop seeks papers in all areas of multimedia networking and systems. Authors are especially encouraged to submit papers with real-world experimental results and real data sets. Topics of interest include (but are not restricted to): - Cloud and peer-to-peer system architectures - Media streaming, distribution and storage support - Multimedia communications and system security - Multi-core and many-core architecture support - Networked GPUs, graphics and virtual environments - Networked games / Real-time immersive systems - Operating system, middleware and network support - Web 2.0 systems and social networks - Wireless networks and embedded systems for multimedia applications =20 In particular, we are interested in soliciting papers that discuss system-level support for social media and social networking, papers that focus on improving performance with multi-core and many-core processors, as well as papers that focus on multimedia applications on mobile devices and/or in a cloud computing environment. Submitted papers must be original and should not be currently under review for any other publication. Authors of accepted papers will need to sign an ACM copyright release form and present their paper at NOSSDAV 2013 in person. The Proceedings of NOSSDAV 2013 will be published by ACM and distributed at the workshop electronically, and will also be included in the ACM Digital Library. * Paper Deadline: 26. November 2012 All paper submissions will be handled electronically in the NOSSDAV 2013 submission web site: http://submission.ndlab.net/nossdav13/ (also available from http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net) Best regards, Program Co-Chairs P=E5l Halvorsen, University of Oslo/Simula, Norway Laszlo B=F6sz=F6rmenyi, Klagenfurt University, Austria From lars@netapp.com Sat Nov 3 15:12:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBBB21F9C35 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:12:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.428 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.428 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.171, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kwQHDanZFFij for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.netapp.com (mx1.netapp.com [216.240.18.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B8E21F98B6 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:12:29 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,705,1344236400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="222883590" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx1-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2012 15:12:29 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com (exchsmtp.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.35]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id qA3MCSIT026467 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.216]) by vmwexceht05-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.35]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 15:12:28 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: rmcat WG Thread-Topic: Meetecho support at IETF85 Thread-Index: AQHNuQniM5Ar6ewmzUO87XyXDW/6yg== Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 22:11:49 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5093D7B7.6070204@meetecho.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.114] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9D0A3524-D072-402D-83DA-7B74A187C462"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [rmcat] Fwd: Meetecho support at IETF85 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:12:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9D0A3524-D072-402D-83DA-7B74A187C462 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, RMCAT will be live streamed by the Meetecho folks - thanks! Begin forwarded message: > we confirm Meetecho remote participation support for your WG meeting = session @ IETF85. > Further information and instructions on how to join can be found at = http://ietf85.conf.meetecho.com. 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(PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,710,1344236400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="706905055" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2012 08:39:25 -0800 Received: from vmwexceht03-prd.hq.netapp.com (exchsmtp.hq.netapp.com [10.106.76.241]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id qA4GdPgs009284 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 08:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.216]) by vmwexceht03-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.241]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 08:39:24 -0800 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: rmcat WG Thread-Topic: IETF85 Streaming Reminder Thread-Index: AQHNup/qAcIz8E97iEGva96WPsdI9g== Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:38:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: <509687B0.2000606@bogus.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.116] Content-Type: multipart/signed; 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 16:39:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C8B03576-B0AA-44A6-830E-69DB58112C71 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Begin forwarded message: > From: joel jaeggli > Subject: IETF85 Streaming Reminder > Date: November 4, 2012 10:20:16 EST > To: ietf >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > For those interested in monitoring sessions or participating remotely = the > following information may prove useful. >=20 > For general remote participation including meetecho support see: >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/85/remote-participation.html >=20 > -Audio Streaming- >=20 > All 8 parallel tracks at the IETF 88 meeting will be broadcast = starting > with the commencement of working group sessions on Monday, Nov 5 2012 > at 0900 EST (UTC-5) and continue until the close of sessions on = Friday, > Nov18th . >=20 > Because we have been asked several times in the past, note that if you > wish to use the rooms that are being recorded for impromptu meeting > during unscheduled sessions or lunch breaks that you can invite remote > participants to tune in to the appropriate stream. 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tests=[AWL=0.749, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76oidNq1FP+9 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 02:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D966C21F865C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 02:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B43139E1AC for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:32:48 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DPNmL88VDdKN for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:32:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:ed78:3a9f:6634:b011] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:ed78:3a9f:6634:b011]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39B5139E0F3 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 11:32:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5098E74C.9060405@alvestrand.no> Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 11:32:44 +0100 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmcat@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [rmcat] preliminary agenda online X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:32:50 -0000 On 10/24/2012 03:26 PM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, > > a preliminary agenda for our Atlanta meeting is online at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/agenda/agenda-85-rmcat > > Send comments. > > Lars An oops..... I'm listed as presenting the REMB draft (draft-alvestrand-rmcat-remb-01). The draft that's had changes since the last meeting is actually draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-congestion-03 - we didn't get it out in time for the -00 deadline, so it still has an -rtcweb name. Harald From lars@netapp.com Tue Nov 6 06:58:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4EC21F853C for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:58:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lmYfK-lTtDcx for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx12.netapp.com (mx12.netapp.com [216.240.18.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CEC21F84E9 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:58:17 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,722,1344236400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="278973266" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx12-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2012 06:58:17 -0800 Received: from vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.76.240]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id qA6EwGCC025665; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.216]) by vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.240]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 06:58:16 -0800 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Harald Alvestrand Thread-Topic: [rmcat] preliminary agenda online Thread-Index: AQHNsetO6L2K9MF2oEOzckfz5aZyt5fdNmIAgABKLYA= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:57:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5098E74C.9060405@alvestrand.no> In-Reply-To: <5098E74C.9060405@alvestrand.no> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.116] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_09C4EF2D-03DD-4384-858F-CDA3E4CDB6E9"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [rmcat] preliminary agenda online X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:58:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_09C4EF2D-03DD-4384-858F-CDA3E4CDB6E9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, On Nov 6, 2012, at 5:32, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > An oops..... I'm listed as presenting the REMB draft = (draft-alvestrand-rmcat-remb-01). The draft that's had changes since the = last meeting is actually draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-congestion-03 - we = didn't get it out in time for the -00 deadline, so it still has an = -rtcweb name. thanks for letting us know! I've uploaded the slides and updated the = agenda. Note that because rtcweb-congestion is a solution candidate, I've = scheduled it in the "if time permits" category alongside the two other = drafts. We're prioritizing topics that are related to our initial = milestones. 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protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mirja_K=FChlewind?= Subject: [rmcat] "homework assignments" from IETF-85 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:46:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4C225F95-A0A8-4FE9-9A8E-2EBBECB6CB0C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, thanks for good first meeting, and sorry for the folks scheduled in the = "if time permits" category for needing to skip their presentations. They = are available as part of the proceedings. There were a few take-away items that for various folks to work on that = I'd like to summarize: * Colin and J=F6rg will inform the WG about what kinds of path = information, i.e., potential inputs to a CC mechanism, are available = based on RTP/RTCP * Michael is the go-to guy for maintaining a list of the architectural = questions we'll need to decide on sooner or later * Randell got feedback on his requirements ID, which he'll incorporate = in a revision. Afterwards, we'll probably decide if the trajectory of = this ID aligns with our milestone and make a formal call for WG = adoption. * Similarly, Varun will incorporate the feedback into a revision of his = evaluation criteria ID, after which we'll do a similarly decision about = adoption. The raw meeting minutes are available at = http://etherpad.tools.ietf.org:9008/p/notes-ietf-85-rmcat?useMonospaceFont= =3Dtrue. Thank you, Andrew! If you spoke at the microphone, please make = sure your comments are accurately reflected, because the ID authors will = use the minutes as input to their revisions. If not, please edit the = Etherpad. I suggest you do this now, while things are fresh in your = head. Please continue the discussions that we had to cut short today on the = list. Also, be aware that RTCWEB is considering an interim meeting before = Orlando. We should have a discussion about whether it would be useful to = co-locate an RMCAT meeting with them. 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Web Conferencing and Collaboration Tools www.meetecho.com From lars@netapp.com Thu Nov 15 04:58:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10621F88DD for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 04:58:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.375 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.375 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.223, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zENa+71NG4wa for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 04:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D358821F88D4 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 04:58:27 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.83,257,1352102400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="710338840" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2012 04:58:27 -0800 Received: from vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.34]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id qAFCwQVf010769 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 04:58:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.216]) by vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.34]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 04:58:26 -0800 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: " WG" Thread-Topic: [rmcat] "homework assignments" from IETF-85 Thread-Index: AQHNvfpweml2qvM2s0a99s5Nslx2yJfra/IA Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:56:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.114] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9F7278FD-3DF0-47C8-8258-84CCAA1F5067"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [rmcat] "homework assignments" from IETF-85 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_CE9ADB01-1F9B-4547-8CF0-F91A5E3A2A47"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [rmcat] "homework assignments" from IETF-85 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." 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<398F972C-890E-4184-A07C-EAA84AB859AF@ifi.uio.no> To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net, iccrg@cs.ucl.ac.uk, rmcat@ietf.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-UiO-SPF-Received: X-UiO-Ratelimit-Test: rcpts/h 47 msgs/h 17 sum rcpts/h 47 sum msgs/h 17 total rcpts 217 max rcpts/h 47 ratelimit 0 X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: F61835792521E4AB03D62DC007175DBFAC438768 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 77.88.71.190 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 80 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 17 total 45 max/h 17 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Subject: [rmcat] [NOSSDAV13]: Paper deadline in one week (26. November) X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 07:26:42 -0000 ********* Paper submission deadline in ONE week ********** NOSSDAV 2013: ACM Workshop on Network and Operating Systems Support=20 for Digital Audio and Video Oslo, Norway, February 26 =97 27, 2013 http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net NEW: Authors of selected good papers will be invited to submit an extended = version of=20 their work and submit it to the ACM Transactions on Multimedia = Computing,=20 Communications and Applications (ACM TOMCCAP) journal. NEW:=20 Dr. Aljosa Smolic (Disney Research Zurich, Switzerland) will give a = keynote=20 entiteled "Advanced 3D Video Processing and Coding" at NOSSDAV 2013.=20 http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net/program.html = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------- As in previous years, the workshop seeks papers in all areas of = multimedia networking and systems. Authors are especially encouraged to submit papers with real-world experimental results and real data sets. Topics of interest include (but are not restricted to): - Cloud and peer-to-peer system architectures - Media streaming, distribution and storage support - Multimedia communications and system security - Multi-core and many-core architecture support - Networked GPUs, graphics and virtual environments - Networked games / Real-time immersive systems - Operating system, middleware and network support - Web 2.0 systems and social networks - Wireless networks and embedded systems for multimedia applications =20 In particular, we are interested in soliciting papers that discuss system-level support for social media and social networking, papers that focus on improving performance with multi-core and many-core processors, as well as papers that focus on multimedia applications on mobile devices and/or in a cloud computing environment. Submitted papers must be original and should not be currently under review for any other publication. Authors of accepted papers will need to sign an ACM copyright release form and present their paper at NOSSDAV 2013 in person. The Proceedings of NOSSDAV 2013 will be published by ACM and distributed at the workshop electronically, and will also be included in the ACM Digital Library. * Paper Deadline: 26. November 2012 All paper submissions will be handled electronically in the NOSSDAV 2013 submission web site: http://submission.ndlab.net/nossdav13/ (also available from http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net) Best regards, Program Co-Chairs P=E5l Halvorsen, University of Oslo/Simula, Norway Laszlo B=F6sz=F6rmenyi, Klagenfurt University, Austria From paalh@ifi.uio.no Thu Nov 22 14:24:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F2921F8736; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:24:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L8n-kMH5QmLD; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-out2.uio.no (mail-out2.uio.no [IPv6:2001:700:100:10::58]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03A821F872A; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-mx5.uio.no ([129.240.10.46]) by mail-out2.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1TbfCA-000556-Et; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:24:30 +0100 Received: from cm-84.209.55.238.getinternet.no ([84.209.55.238] helo=[10.0.1.4]) by mail-mx5.uio.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) user paalh (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TbfCA-0003pE-1d; Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:24:30 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Halvorsen?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:24:29 +0100 Message-Id: To: rmcat@ietf.org, rtcweb@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-UiO-SPF-Received: X-UiO-Ratelimit-Test: rcpts/h 47 msgs/h 28 sum rcpts/h 48 sum msgs/h 28 total rcpts 338 max rcpts/h 55 ratelimit 0 X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 40711DB5F35F27FCDC9C081625AC18ED00B9B534 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 84.209.55.238 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 80 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 28 total 78 max/h 28 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Subject: [rmcat] [NOSSDAV13]: Deadline extension - 3. December X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:24:32 -0000 Due to multiple requests and the Thanksgiving holiday, the NOSSDAV 2013=20= paper submission deadline is extended until 3. DECEMBER. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NOSSDAV 2013: ACM Workshop on Network and Operating Systems Support=20 for Digital Audio and Video Oslo, Norway, February 26 =97 27, 2013 http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As in previous years, the workshop seeks papers in all areas of = multimedia networking and systems. Authors are especially encouraged to submit papers with real-world experimental results and real data sets. Topics of interest include (but are not restricted to): - Cloud and peer-to-peer system architectures - Media streaming, distribution and storage support - Multimedia communications and system security - Multi-core and many-core architecture support - Networked GPUs, graphics and virtual environments - Networked games / Real-time immersive systems - Operating system, middleware and network support - Web 2.0 systems and social networks - Wireless networks and embedded systems for multimedia applications =20 In particular, we are interested in soliciting papers that discuss system-level support for social media and social networking, papers that focus on improving performance with multi-core and many-core processors, as well as papers that focus on multimedia applications on mobile devices and/or in a cloud computing environment. Submitted papers must be original and should not be currently under review for any other publication. Authors of accepted papers will need to sign an ACM copyright release form and present their paper at NOSSDAV 2013 in person. The Proceedings of NOSSDAV 2013 will be published by ACM and distributed at the workshop electronically, and will also be included in the ACM Digital Library. * Paper Deadline: 3. December 2012 All paper submissions will be handled electronically in the NOSSDAV 2013 submission web site: http://submission.ndlab.net/nossdav13/ (also available from http://nossdav2013.ndlab.net) Best regards, Laszlo B=F6sz=F6rmenyi, Klagenfurt University, Austria P=E5l Halvorsen, University of Oslo/Simula, Norway (Program Co-Chairs) From mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de Fri Nov 23 01:08:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E18A21F85BF for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:08:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NJhF93tYE2LF for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (mailsrv.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.170.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F223F21F85A5 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from netsrv1.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (netsrv1-c [10.11.12.12]) by mailsrv.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0129633B1 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:08:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from vpn-2-cl177 (vpn-2-cl177 [10.41.21.177]) by netsrv1.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AD859A8A for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:08:46 +0100 (CET) From: Mirja =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FChlewind?= To: rmcat@ietf.org Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 10:08:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20101217.1207316) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201211231008.46222.mkuehle@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de> Subject: [rmcat] Minutes & draft updates X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:08:49 -0000 Hi, I posted the minutes. Please check again and let me know if there are any further changes needed. @Draft authors: Please remember that we have a tight milestone plan. We are supposed to adopt the first wg docs on requirement and evaluation criteria in December. As there has been a lot discussion during the meeting, I don't think we are able to adopt the current versions. So please update the drafts as soon as possible! Mirja