From nobody Mon Dec 4 08:12:52 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietf.org Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAFB127011; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 08:12:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: rmcat@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.66.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151240396514.6427.8247293961067845223@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 08:12:45 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [rmcat] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 16:12:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques WG of the IETF. Title : NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media Authors : Xiaoqing Zhu Rong Pan Michael A. Ramalho Sergio Mena de la Cruz Paul E. Jones Jiantao Fu Stefano D'Aronco Filename : draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2017-12-04 Abstract: This document describes NADA (network-assisted dynamic adaptation), a novel congestion control scheme for interactive real-time media applications, such as video conferencing. In the proposed scheme, the sender regulates its sending rate based on either implicit or explicit congestion signaling, in a unified approach. The scheme can benefit from explicit congestion notification (ECN) markings from network nodes. It also maintains consistent sender behavior in the absence of such markings, by reacting to queuing delays and packet losses instead. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 16:18:40 -0000 --_000_151240431500374115ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, As a follow up to IETF-100, we've submitted an updated version of the draft= to address all previous set of comments. Note that there is no algorithm = change from -05 to -06. A brief summary of the edits: * Editorial changes to address previous review comments from the WG mailing= list, from Ingemar, MichaelW, Roland, and others; * Figure 3 (List of algorithm parameters): aligned with our open-source ref= erence code; * Implementation Status section: added a pointer to our open-source release= of ns3-rmcat * References: Revised the list of Normative vs. Informative references to r= eflect dependency on other RFC drafts; * Updated both author contact info and Acknowledgement section With that, the draft is ready for a second round of WGLC. Thanks, Xiaoqing ________________________________ From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:12 AM To: Sergio Mena de la Cruz (semena); Stefano D'Aronco; Michael Ramalho (mra= malho); Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu); Sergio Mena de la Cruz (semena); Rong Pan;= Jeromy Fu (jianfu); Paul E. Jones; Jeromy Fu (jianfu); Michael Ramalho (mr= amalho); Paul Jones Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Xiaoqing Zhu and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-rmcat-nada Revision: 06 Title: NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Med= ia Document date: 2017-12-03 Group: rmcat Pages: 26 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-= 06.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada= -06 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-rmcat-nada-0= 6 Abstract: This document describes NADA (network-assisted dynamic adaptation), a novel congestion control scheme for interactive real-time media applications, such as video conferencing. In the proposed scheme, the sender regulates its sending rate based on either implicit or explicit congestion signaling, in a unified approach. The scheme can benefit from explicit congestion notification (ECN) markings from network nodes. It also maintains consistent sender behavior in the absence of such markings, by reacting to queuing delays and packet losses instead. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --_000_151240431500374115ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,


As a follow up to IETF-100, we've submitted an updated version of the&= nbsp;draft  to address all previous set of comments. Note that there i= s no algorithm change from -05 to -06.

A brief summary of the edits: 

* Editorial changes to address previous review comments from the = WG mailing list, from Ingemar, MichaelW, Roland, and others; 
* Figure 3 (List of algorithm parameters): aligned with our open-= source reference code;  
* Implementation Status section: added a pointer to= our open-source release of ns3-rmcat
* References: Revised the list of Normative vs. Informative refer= ences to reflect dependency on other RFC drafts;
* Updated both author contact info and Acknowledgement section

With that, the draft is ready for a second round of WGLC. 

Thanks,
Xiaoqing




From: internet-drafts@iet= f.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:12 AM
To: Sergio Mena de la Cruz (semena); Stefano D'Aronco; Michael Ramal= ho (mramalho); Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu); Sergio Mena de la Cruz (semena); Ro= ng Pan; Jeromy Fu (jianfu); Paul E. Jones; Jeromy Fu (jianfu); Michael Rama= lho (mramalho); Paul Jones
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt
 

A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt
has been successfully submitted by Xiaoqing Zhu and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-iet= f-rmcat-nada
Revision:       06
Title:          NADA: A Unifie= d Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media
Document date:  2017-12-03
Group:          rmcat
Pages:          26
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-= rmcat-nada-06
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06

Abstract:
   This document describes NADA (network-assisted dynamic adaptat= ion), a
   novel congestion control scheme for interactive real-time medi= a
   applications, such as video conferencing.  In the propose= d scheme,
   the sender regulates its sending rate based on either implicit= or
   explicit congestion signaling, in a unified approach.  Th= e scheme can
   benefit from explicit congestion notification (ECN) markings f= rom
   network nodes.  It also maintains consistent sender behav= ior in the
   absence of such markings, by reacting to queuing delays and pa= cket
   losses instead.

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The IETF Secretariat

--_000_151240431500374115ciscocom_-- From nobody Wed Dec 6 09:02:10 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietf.org Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EB41275F4; Wed, 6 Dec 2017 09:02:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Anna Brunstrom To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.67.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: rmcat-chairs@ietf.org, iesg-secretary@ietf.org, Anna Brunstrom , anna.brunstrom@kau.se, rmcat@ietf.org Message-ID: <151257972915.30821.8174012523916651493.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 09:02:09 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [rmcat] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd-09 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 17:02:09 -0000 Anna Brunstrom has requested publication of draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd-09 as Experimental on behalf of the RMCAT working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rmcat-sbd/ From nobody Thu Dec 7 00:47:37 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4BB1292FD for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:47:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07-JtaDgfqD9 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiger.dc.kau.se (smtp.kau.se [193.10.220.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EEA7126CE8 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2017 00:47:32 -0800 (PST) From: Anna Brunstrom To: "rmcat@ietf.org" Message-ID: <477d9a14-8cb3-9edf-467f-660469615e23@kau.se> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:47:21 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D729ED0F5D766B7FAE2F8A05" Content-Language: en-US X-ClientProxiedBy: Exch-A1.personal.kau (130.243.19.82) To Exch-A2.personal.kau (130.243.19.83) Archived-At: Subject: [rmcat] Second RMCAT WGLC for draft-ietf-rmcat-nada - ends December 21 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 08:47:36 -0000 --------------D729ED0F5D766B7FAE2F8A05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This email announces a second RMCAT Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on: NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 The purpose of this second WGLC is to give the WG a chance to review the update to the NADA algorithm that was performed as a result of the comments raise during the first WGLC. This second WGLC will run for 2 weeks, ending at midnight US Eastern Time on Thursday, December 21.  Comments should be sent to the rmcat@ietf.org list. As previously announced on the list, the authors have made a complete set of NS3 evaluation results for the revised algorithm available via the following Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgrcilpv0ez2vwf/2017-11-20-ietf-rmcat-nada-eval.pdf?dl=0. Please note that the 05 version of the draft contains the algorithm updates. The latest 06 version contains further text refinements, but no algorithm changes. Thanks to all who provided feedback during the first WGLC. Ingemar, Julius, Roland, could you please confirm to the list or to the chairs if the latest version addresses your comments. Thanks, Anna (as WG co-chair) --------------D729ED0F5D766B7FAE2F8A05 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

This email announces a second RMCAT Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on:

NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06

The purpose of this second WGLC is to give the WG a chance to review the update to the NADA algorithm that was performed as a result of the comments raise during the first WGLC. This second WGLC will run for 2 weeks, ending at midnight US Eastern Time on Thursday, December 21.  Comments should be sent to the rmcat@ietf.org list.

As previously announced on the list, the authors have made a complete set of NS3 evaluation results for the revised algorithm available via the following Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgrcilpv0ez2vwf/2017-11-20-ietf-rmcat-nada-eval.pdf?dl=0. Please note that the 05 version of the draft contains the algorithm updates. The latest 06 version contains further text refinements, but no algorithm changes.

Thanks to all who provided feedback during the first WGLC. Ingemar, Julius, Roland, could you please confirm to the list or to the chairs if the latest version addresses your comments.

Thanks,
Anna
(as WG co-chair)



--------------D729ED0F5D766B7FAE2F8A05-- From nobody Tue Dec 12 02:07:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB02D129410; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:07:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIM_INVALID=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=neutral reason="invalid (public key: not available)" header.d=ferlin.io Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vo-Hx_h06u00; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from n1nlsmtp02.shr.prod.ams1.secureserver.net (n1nlsmtp02.prod.ams1.secureserver.net [188.121.43.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 984AB12940F; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from n1plcpnl0047.prod.ams1.secureserver.net ([46.252.205.173]) by : HOSTING RELAY : with SMTP id OhSWeusudjzE4OhSWeyqoU; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:06:44 -0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ferlin.io; s=default; h=Content-Type:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=B2hYbMlPqVeRQjXapCYh5WI99d+U1QD47BERhxLJrM4=; b=T0/C1MjaIQL4oYxJv9LgjOhvZZ EU0me1O8gmeTnrhW2JXcAcWF9DsqoBQYLNgnpIpMLjd9vfTvEfR5vRG2/nLE0KB8yeR/ZTDeQZV7c xJWXOv8Q9RN5qNtAWtcHhGsK4n0hpJsnY9XUYy2EBa+fmF8BWs/a95iPvupBhvOmH5zhUimboLmK1 LMXK6v+IAY5PjuDNFa5fBEV6pg5HnMoE9Ib4i/0wcfKvX6YozrlUEE56ZS4H9vETpk+OzndMR2jpJ WB/Kl2JSkxYtPERVRCRGbTpUH2RTyDDXHF03uVIlZiLWjzqmsTVtezdT/M+aujp4Ej6lxP7vrC/TU DOWTS7+Q==; Received: from mail-pg0-f50.google.com ([74.125.83.50]:43338) by n1plcpnl0047.prod.ams1.secureserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eOhSW-0004fR-Gs; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:06:44 -0700 Received: by mail-pg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id b18so13083550pgv.10; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:06:44 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mK9lrZrxwIpLOC9NBbHdK8IMhsRMcDsT2tfszGE7Ay1MG5gbjYR UUUpAN7Bd1wl1854l7muHbiS1K3zmf6rNpFbdtU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovrc2khvtD32J8OYzDz5MfbJxCtoQqe40icySNq+QxqvNe+txFLuR2tJAMXM1Uic6UmmArLthzO3f98ufo/HIw= X-Received: by 10.84.130.33 with SMTP id 30mr1757436plc.161.1513073203589; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:06:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.151.15 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:06:23 -0800 (PST) From: Simone Ferlin Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 11:06:23 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: rmcat@ietf.org, quic@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - n1plcpnl0047.prod.ams1.secureserver.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ferlin.io X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: n1plcpnl0047.prod.ams1.secureserver.net: authenticated_id: simone@ferlin.io X-Authenticated-Sender: n1plcpnl0047.prod.ams1.secureserver.net: simone@ferlin.io X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHgFBEBss8GS9ZeZOrVQVYdAhohsqBSRXuZbXjWNxfjsyi0w/Rk9VOWuMNQafkCfNPE1OwPTsO+ste8//jnKdu3BZxWDYHGIrO9oaNPvotrH2N/jD1fR PcgqF/RghF085cNiv2P8TTLuRWxkOEMN5vAv1wreDQrmC0Ae+SfguSSGlLMTY0WJeiM98OMJdQ9VGZDzkEH9zdZtqzBp02W//jllQf0GWlFytlglWnk8vO4m Archived-At: Subject: [rmcat] Background traffic traces X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:07:53 -0000 Hello all, Sorry for the spam for those in both lists... Is there any remote chance that anybody in this group is working with some common traffic traces from a real capture to compare algorithms? I remember seeing this in RMCAT few months (if not years...) ago, but my search now ended in /dev/null. Any pointers to find something like that? I am trying to replace some components such as synthetic traffic traces for a (controlled) measurement setup, and this would be of great help. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:24:01 -0000 Hello Simone, You can try the following open source repo: https://github.com/cisco/syncodecs This is a reference implementation of draft-ietf-rmcat-video-traffic-model. Besides, it contains a set of traces we obtained with Mozilla's h264 earlier this year. Let me know if you have any question. Thanks, Sergio On 12/12/17 11:06, Simone Ferlin wrote: > Hello all, > > Sorry for the spam for those in both lists... > > Is there any remote chance that anybody in this group is working with > some common traffic traces from a real capture to compare algorithms? > I remember seeing this in RMCAT few months (if not years...) ago, but > my search now ended in /dev/null. > > Any pointers to find something like that? > I am trying to replace some components such as synthetic traffic > traces for a (controlled) measurement setup, and this would be of > great help. > > Thanks, > Simone > > From nobody Wed Dec 20 02:12:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CE7126CC4 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:12:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lHpr5XCLWYE8 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.10.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 518B0126C0F for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from i72vorta.tm.uni-karlsruhe.de ([141.3.71.26] helo=i72vorta.tm.kit.edu) by iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp port 25 iface 141.3.10.81 id 1eRbMK-0004AZ-I8; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:12:20 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by i72vorta.tm.kit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80CEC420F47; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:12:20 +0100 (CET) To: Anna Brunstrom , "rmcat@ietf.org" References: <477d9a14-8cb3-9edf-467f-660469615e23@kau.se> From: "Bless, Roland (TM)" Organization: Institute of Telematics, Karlsruhe Institute of Technology Message-ID: <3ab36333-a5c9-dac4-7b0e-a1f8fdc76e71@kit.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:12:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <477d9a14-8cb3-9edf-467f-660469615e23@kau.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ATIS-AV: ClamAV (iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de) X-ATIS-Timestamp: iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de 1513764740.620111639 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rmcat] Second RMCAT WGLC for draft-ietf-rmcat-nada - ends December 21 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 10:12:26 -0000 Hi Anna and all, I briefly reviewed the changes and they seem to address my comments. The only change that probably needs editorial improvement is this: loss_int | Measured average loss interval in packet count I suggest to rewrite as: loss_int | Measured average loss interval in number of packets Regards, Roland Am 07.12.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Anna Brunstrom: > This email announces a second RMCAT Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on: > > NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 > > The purpose of this second WGLC is to give the WG a chance to review the > update to the NADA algorithm that was performed as a result of the > comments raise during the first WGLC. This second WGLC will run for 2 > weeks, ending at midnight US Eastern Time on Thursday, December 21.  > Comments should be sent to the rmcat@ietf.org list. > > As previously announced on the list, the authors have made a complete > set of NS3 evaluation results for the revised algorithm available via > the following Dropbox link: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgrcilpv0ez2vwf/2017-11-20-ietf-rmcat-nada-eval.pdf?dl=0. > Please note that the 05 version of the draft contains the algorithm > updates. The latest 06 version contains further text refinements, but no > algorithm changes. > > Thanks to all who provided feedback during the first WGLC. Ingemar, > Julius, Roland, could you please confirm to the list or to the chairs if > the latest version addresses your comments. From nobody Wed Dec 20 02:42:48 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEA4126CC4 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:42:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H7kvONjOYhnS for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from nasse.dc.kau.se (smtp.kau.se [193.10.220.39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5E191200F3 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 02:42:43 -0800 (PST) To: "Bless, Roland (TM)" References: <477d9a14-8cb3-9edf-467f-660469615e23@kau.se> <3ab36333-a5c9-dac4-7b0e-a1f8fdc76e71@kit.edu> CC: "rmcat@ietf.org" From: Anna Brunstrom Message-ID: <969ec773-fa1a-94e9-f7c0-de9c2a70b065@kau.se> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:42:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3ab36333-a5c9-dac4-7b0e-a1f8fdc76e71@kit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-ClientProxiedBy: Exch-A2.personal.kau (130.243.19.83) To Exch-A2.personal.kau (130.243.19.83) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [rmcat] Second RMCAT WGLC for draft-ietf-rmcat-nada - ends December 21 X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 10:42:46 -0000 Hi Roland, Thanks for following up! Anna On 2017-12-20 11:12, Bless, Roland (TM) wrote: > Hi Anna and all, > > I briefly reviewed the changes and they seem to address my comments. > The only change that probably needs editorial improvement is this: > > loss_int | Measured average loss interval in packet count > > I suggest to rewrite as: > > loss_int | Measured average loss interval in number of packets > > Regards, > Roland > > Am 07.12.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Anna Brunstrom: >> This email announces a second RMCAT Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on: >> >> NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06 >> >> The purpose of this second WGLC is to give the WG a chance to review the >> update to the NADA algorithm that was performed as a result of the >> comments raise during the first WGLC. This second WGLC will run for 2 >> weeks, ending at midnight US Eastern Time on Thursday, December 21. >> Comments should be sent to the rmcat@ietf.org list. >> >> As previously announced on the list, the authors have made a complete >> set of NS3 evaluation results for the revised algorithm available via >> the following Dropbox link: >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgrcilpv0ez2vwf/2017-11-20-ietf-rmcat-nada-eval.pdf?dl=0. >> Please note that the 05 version of the draft contains the algorithm >> updates. The latest 06 version contains further text refinements, but no >> algorithm changes. >> >> Thanks to all who provided feedback during the first WGLC. Ingemar, >> Julius, Roland, could you please confirm to the list or to the chairs if >> the latest version addresses your comments. 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Will make the editorial= change accordingly. =0A= =0A= Best,=0A= Xiaoqing=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: rmcat on behalf of Anna Brunstrom =0A= Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 4:42 AM=0A= To: Bless, Roland (TM)=0A= Cc: rmcat@ietf.org=0A= Subject: Re: [rmcat] Second RMCAT WGLC for draft-ietf-rmcat-nada - ends Dec= ember 21=0A= =0A= Hi Roland,=0A= =0A= Thanks for following up!=0A= =0A= Anna=0A= =0A= =0A= On 2017-12-20 11:12, Bless, Roland (TM) wrote:=0A= > Hi Anna and all,=0A= >=0A= > I briefly reviewed the changes and they seem to address my comments.=0A= > The only change that probably needs editorial improvement is this:=0A= >=0A= > loss_int | Measured average loss interval in packet count=0A= >=0A= > I suggest to rewrite as:=0A= >=0A= > loss_int | Measured average loss interval in number of packets=0A= >=0A= > Regards,=0A= > Roland=0A= >=0A= > Am 07.12.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Anna Brunstrom:=0A= >> This email announces a second RMCAT Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on:= =0A= >>=0A= >> NADA: A Unified Congestion Control Scheme for Real-Time Media=0A= >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-06=0A= >>=0A= >> The purpose of this second WGLC is to give the WG a chance to review the= =0A= >> update to the NADA algorithm that was performed as a result of the=0A= >> comments raise during the first WGLC. This second WGLC will run for 2=0A= >> weeks, ending at midnight US Eastern Time on Thursday, December 21.=0A= >> Comments should be sent to the rmcat@ietf.org list.=0A= >>=0A= >> As previously announced on the list, the authors have made a complete=0A= >> set of NS3 evaluation results for the revised algorithm available via=0A= >> the following Dropbox link:=0A= >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sgrcilpv0ez2vwf/2017-11-20-ietf-rmcat-nada-eva= l.pdf?dl=3D0.=0A= >> Please note that the 05 version of the draft contains the algorithm=0A= >> updates. The latest 06 version contains further text refinements, but no= =0A= >> algorithm changes.=0A= >>=0A= >> Thanks to all who provided feedback during the first WGLC. Ingemar,=0A= >> Julius, Roland, could you please confirm to the list or to the chairs if= =0A= >> the latest version addresses your comments.=0A= =0A= From nobody Thu Dec 21 10:00:59 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rmcat@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2121D12D95D; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RI3Q4KF7viiA; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFA6212D950; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id D7E60B81271; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:32 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rmcat@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20171221180032.D7E60B81271@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:32 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [rmcat] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8298_on_Self-Clocked_Rate_Adaptation_for_Mu?= =?utf-8?q?ltimedia?= X-BeenThere: rmcat@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques \(RMCAT\) Working Group discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 18:00:50 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8298 Title: Self-Clocked Rate Adaptation for Multimedia Author: I. Johansson, Z. Sarker Status: Experimental Stream: IETF Date: December 2017 Mailbox: ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com, Zaheduzzaman.Sarker@ericsson.com Pages: 36 Characters: 80538 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rmcat-scream-cc-13.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8298 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8298 This memo describes a rate adaptation algorithm for conversational media services such as interactive video. The solution conforms to the packet conservation principle and uses a hybrid loss-and-delay- based congestion control algorithm. 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