From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Tue Oct 3 13:56:10 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA19752 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14024; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:07:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal2.lbl.gov (postal2.lbl.gov [131.243.129.79]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14020 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal2.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28921 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Pedro (ppp176.197dip.netdial.caribe.net [209.91.197.176]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA28917 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010031706.KAA28917@SpamWall.lbl.gov> From: "juan" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:19:24 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk From: tunes To: tunes Subject: Fw: PLEASE READ! 5 min. of your time for $50,000 in 90 DAYS! 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So my friend, I have given you the > ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially > independent. > > IT IS UP TO YOU!! NOW DO IT!! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Before you delete this program from your in box, as I almost did, > take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil > and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the > worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will > still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any > doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. > > $$$ IT WORKS!!! $$$ > > Jody Jacobs Richmond, VA > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU THOUSANDS OF > DOLLAR$$$$!!!! > > This method of raising capital REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am > sure that you could use up to $50,000 or more in the next 90 days. > before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully. This is > not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making business. > > As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business by > recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA > allows you to recruit new multi-level business partners, and we sell and > deliver a product for EVERY dollar received. > > YOUR ORDERS COME BY MAIL AND ARE FILLED BY E-MAIL, so you are not > involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, > store or office. This is the EASIEST marketing plan anywhere! It is > simply order filling by email! > > ******************************************************************* > The product is informational and instructional material, keys to the > secrets for everyone on how to open the doors to the magic world of > E-COMMERCE , the information highway, the wave of the future ! > > PLAN SUMMARY: > > (1) You order the 4 reports listed below ($5US each) They come to you > by email. > > (2) Save a copy of this entire letter and put your name after Report > #1 and move the other names down. > > (3) Via the internet, access Yahoo.com or any of the other major > search engines to locate hundreds of bulk email service companies > (search for "bulk email") and have them send 25,000 - 50,000 emails for > you about $49+) > > (4) Orders will come to you by postal mail - simply email them the > Report they ordered. Let me ask you - isn't this about as easy as it > gets? > > ******************************************************************* > > By the way there are over 50 MILLION email addresses with millions > more joining the internet each year so don't worry about "running out" > or "saturation". People are used to seeing and hearing the same > advertisements every day on radio/TV. How many times have you received > the same pizza flyers on your door? Then one day you are hungry for > pizza and you order one. Same thing with this letter. I received this > letter many times - then one day I decided it was time to try it. > > ******************************************************************* > > YOU CAN START TODAY - JUST DO THESE EASY STEPS: > > STEP #1. ORDER THE FOUR REPORTS > > Order the four reports shown on the list below (you can't sell > them if you don't order them). -- For each report, send $5.00US > CASH, the NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, > YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR NAME & RETURN ADDRESS (in case of a > problem) to the person whose name appears on the list next to the > report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE IN CASE OF ANY MAIL > PROBLEMS! Within a few days you will receive, by e-mail, each of the four > reports. Save them on your computer so you can send them to the 1,000's > of people who will order them from you. > > STEP #2. ADD YOUR MAILING ADDRESS TO THIS LETTER > a. Look below for the listing of the four reports. > b. After you've ordered the four reports, delete the name and address > under REPORT #4. This person has made it through the cycle. > c. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to REPORT #4. > d. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to REPORT #3. > e. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2. > f. Insert your name/address in the REPORT #1 position. > Please make sure you COPY ALL INFORMATION, every name and address, > ACCURATELY! > > STEP #3. Take this entire letter, including the modified list of > names, and save it to your computer. Make NO changes to these > instructions. Now you are ready to use this entire email to send by > email to prospects. > > Report #1 will tell you how to download bulk email software and email > addresses so you can send it out to thousands of people while you > sleep! Remember that 50,000+ new people are joining the internet every > month. > > Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely you > can afford $20US and initial bulk mailing cost). You obviously already > have a computer and an Internet connection and e-mail is FREE! > There are two primary methods of building your downline: > > METHOD #1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL Let's say that you decide to start > small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those > involved email out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the > mailing receives a 0.5% response. The response could be much better. > Also, many people will email outhundreds of thousands of programs instead of > 2,000 (Why stop at 2000?). But continuing with this example, you send > out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.5% response, that is only 10 orders for > REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each > for a total of 20,000. Out of those 0.5%, 100 people respond and order > > REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of > 200,000. The 0.5% response to that is 1,000 orders for > > REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 > total. The 0.5% response to that is 10,000 orders for > > REPORT #4. That's 10,000 $5 bills for you. CASH!!! > Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5,000 + $50,000 > for a total of $55,550!!! > > REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU > MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! > DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF > SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will > do just that, and more! > > METHOD #2 - PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET > Advertising on the internet is very, very inexpensive, and there are > HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. Let's say you decide to start > small just to see how well it works. Assume your goal is to get ONLY 10 > people to participate on your first level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on > > the Internet will EASILY get a larger response.) Also assume that > everyone > else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 10 downline members. Look how this > small number accumulates to achieve the STAGGERING results below: > > 1st level--your first 10 send you > $5................................$50 > > 2nd level--10 members from those 10 ($5 x 100).............$500 > 3rd level--10 members from those 100 ($5 x 1,000)........$5,000 > 4th level--10 members from those 1,000 ($5 x 10,000)..$50,000 > > $$$$$$ THIS TOTALS ----------$55,550 $$$$$$ > > AMAZING ISN'T IT? Remember friends, this assumes that the people who > participate only recruit 10 people each. Think for a moment what would > happen if they got 20 people to participate! Most people get 100's of > participants and many will continue to work this program, sending out > programs WITH YOUR NAME ON THEM for years! THINK ABOUT IT! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > People are going to get emails about this plan from you or somebody > else and many will work this plan - the question is - Don't you want > your name to be on the emails they will send out? > > * * * DON'T MISS OUT!!! * * * JUST TRY IT ONCE!!! * * * > > * * SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!! *** YOU'LL BE AMAZED!!!* * > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! > > This will guarantee that the e-mail THEY send out with YOUR name and > address on it will be prompt because they can't advertise until they > receive the report! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > GET STARTED TODAY: PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THE FOUR REPORTS NOW. > > Notes: -- ALWAYS SEND $5 CASH (U.S. CURRENCY) FOR EACH REPORT. CHECKS > NOT ACCEPTED. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in two > sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper write: > > (a) the number & name of the report you are ordering > > (b) your e-mail address, and > > (c) your name & postal address. > > REPORT #1 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet" > > ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: >PETER OJEDA > 1691 JUAN KEPLER URB. TULIPAN SAN JUAN P.R. 00926 > REPORT #2 "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet" > > ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: > KATHY BRONIAK > 4200-E LYNN POINT LANE >RALEIGH , NC27613 > REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" > > ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: >JAKE PELLETIER > 128 E 20TH AVE. > VANCOUVER B.C. >V5V 1L9 > REPORT #4 "How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of Multilevel > > Marketing and the Internet" > > ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: > KEN KNIGHT > P.O. BOX 535. > 2208 MAPLE ROAD.N. > SOOKE B.C. > VOS 1NO > ******* TIPS FOR SUCCESS ******* > > TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Be prompt, professional, and follow the > directions accurately. -- Send for the four reports IMMEDIATELY so you > will have them when the orders start coming in because: > When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested > product/report. It is required for this to be a legal business and > they need the reports to send out their letters (with your name on > them!) > > -- ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE. -- Be > patient and persistent with this program - If you follow the > instructions exactly - results WILL FOLLOW. $$$$ > > ******* YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES ******* > > Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you don't > receive 20 orders for REPORT #1 within two weeks, continue advertising > or sending e-mails until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you > should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT#2. If you don't, continue > advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 > or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already > working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in! > > THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on > the list, you are placed in front of a DIFFERENT report. You can KEEP > TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from > you. > > To generate more income, simply send another batch of e-mails or > continue placing ads and start the whole process again! There is no > limit to the income you will generate from this business! > > Before you make your decision as to whether or not you participate in > this program. Please answer one question. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR > PRESENT INCOME OR JOB? If the answer is no, then please look at the > following facts about this super simple MLM program: > > 1. NO face to face selling, NO meetings, NO inventory! > NO Telephone calls, NO big cost to start!, NOthing to learn, > NO skills needed! (Surely you know how to send email?) > > 2. No equipment to buy - you already have a computer and > internet connection - so you have everything you need to fill > orders! > > 3. You are selling a product which does NOT COST ANYTHING TO PRODUCE OR > SHIP! (Emailing copies of the reports is FREE!) > > 4. All of your customers pay you in CA$H! This program will change > your LIFE FOREVER!! Look at the potential for you to be able to quit > your job and live a life of luxury you could only dream about! > Imagine getting out of debt and buying the car and home of your > dreams and being able to work a super-high paying leisurely > easy business from home! > > $$$ FINALLY MAKE SOME DREAMS COME TRUE! $$$ > > ACT NOW! Take your first step toward achieving financial independence. > Order the reports and follow the program outlined above-- SUCCESS will > be your reward. > > Thank you for your time and consideration. > > PLEASE NOTE: If you need help with starting a business, registering a > business name, learning how income tax is handled, etc., contact your > local office of the Small Business Administration (a Federal Agency) > 1-800-827-5722 for free help and answers to questions. > > Also, the Internal Revenue Service offers free help via telephone and > free seminars about business tax reuirements. Your earnings are highly > dependent on your activities and advertising. The information contained > on this site and in the report constitutes no guarantees stated nor > implied. In the event that it is determined that this site or report > constitutes a guarantee of any kind, that guarantee is now void. The > earnings amounts listed on this site and in the report are estimates > only. > If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the > Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade > Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection in Washington, DC. > > ================================================ > > Under Bill s.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th US Congress this > letter cannot be considered spam as long as the sender includes > contact information and a method of removal. > > This is a one time e-mail transmission. No request for removal is > necessary. > > > From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Thu Oct 12 14:25:32 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA03614 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15663; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:39:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15659 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13730 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [208.30.174.2]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13727 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sprintlabs.com (ip199-2-53-112.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.112]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2652.78) id 4GNA7TCP; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:38:55 -0700 Message-ID: <39E264B2.B6927993@sprintlabs.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:37:06 -0700 From: Christophe Diot Organization: SPRINT ATL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cost264@lip6.fr, rm@mash.CS.Berkeley.EDU, end2end-interest@isi.edu, tccc@ieee.org, itc@ieee.org, maddogs@ietf.org, ssm-interest@external.cisco.com, rmt@lbl.gov Subject: NGC 2000: register asap ! 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Also, we are going fast to the 100 participants. so please register shortly. we will accept early rates for another two days as some people experienced problems to reach the web site today. www.cs.ucsb.edu/ngc2000 From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Wed Oct 18 07:29:30 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA15967 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10888; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 03:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10884 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 03:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20959 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 03:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20954 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 03:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA14670; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200010181032.GAA14670@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: rmt@lbl.gov From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:32:24 -0400 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Blocks for One-to-Many Bulk-Data Transfer Author(s) : B. Whetten, L. Vicisano, R. Kermode, M. Handley, S. Floyd, M. Luby Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt Pages : 22 Date : 17-Oct-00 This document describes a framework for the standardization of bulk-data reliable multicast transport. It builds upon the experience gained during the deployment of several classes of contemporary reliable multicast transport, and attempts to pull out the commonalities between these classes of protocols into a number of building blocks. To that end, this document recommends that certain components that are common to multiple protocol classes be standardized as 'building blocks.' The remaining parts of the protocols, consisting of highly protocol specific, tightly intertwined functions, shall be designated as 'protocol cores.' Thus, each protocol can then be constructed by merging a 'protocol core' with a number of 'building blocks' which can be re-used across multiple protocols. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001017125924.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001017125924.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Oct 23 18:01:56 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA00742 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09629; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:27:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09625 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23808 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23788 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: [from pobox3.mot.com (pobox3.mot.com [10.64.251.242]) by ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox 2.1) with ESMTP id OAA26630 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:27:53 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from homer.arc.corp.mot.com (homer.arc.corp.mot.com [217.1.10.38]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id OAA11047 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:25:50 -0700 (MST)] Received: from arc.corp.mot.com ([217.2.31.39]) by homer.arc.corp.mot.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e9NLRTn15019 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:27:29 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <39F4ACDB.CD598D58@arc.corp.mot.com> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:25:47 +1100 From: Roger Kermode Reply-To: Roger.Kermode@motorola.com Organization: Motorola X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmt-list Subject: Call for RMT Agenda items Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8C42FB7D460C9D6DD81796BA" Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8C42FB7D460C9D6DD81796BA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear RMT'ers Please send your requests for RMT agenda items for the next IETF to me when you get the chance. If we get them early enough we might even be able to publish an agenda prior to the meeting (hint hint). FYI...we've asked for two slots again, which will most likely be scheduled early in the week. cheers, Roger --------------8C42FB7D460C9D6DD81796BA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rkermode.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Roger Kermode Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rkermode.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Kermode;Roger tel;cell:+61-408-212-284 tel;fax:+61-2-9666-0501 tel;home:+61-2-9664-8335 tel;work:+61-2-9666-0558 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.mot.com.au org:Motorola Australian Research Centre;Communications and Networking Lab version:2.1 email;internet:Roger.Kermode@motorola.com title:Principal Research Engineer, Manager adr;quoted-printable:;;Level 3,=0D=0A12 Lord St.;Botany;NSW;2019;Australia fn:Roger Kermode end:vcard --------------8C42FB7D460C9D6DD81796BA-- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Fri Oct 27 13:10:56 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA01348 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09486; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:16:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from ertpg14e1.nortelnetworks.com (ertpg14e1.nortelnetworks.com [47.234.0.35]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09482 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zbl6c016.corpeast.baynetworks.com (actually zbl6c016) by ertpg14e1.nortelnetworks.com; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:54:23 -0400 Received: from zbl6c002.corpeast.baynetworks.com ([132.245.205.52]) by zbl6c016.corpeast.baynetworks.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2652.39) id VT2NRBP8; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:54:17 -0400 Received: from hardjono.nortelnetworks.com (dhcp225-117.engeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.225.117]) by zbl6c002.corpeast.baynetworks.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2652.39) id VDZZ10HG; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:54:16 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20001027111423.00d5cdb0@ZBL6C002.corpeast.baynetworks.com> X-Sender: hardjono@ZBL6C002.corpeast.baynetworks.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:04:32 -0700 To: smug@cs.umass.edu, smug@baynetworks.com From: "Thomas Hardjono" Subject: MSEC BOF details Cc: rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Folks, There will be a BOF on Multicast SECurity (MSEC) in the next IETF San Diego. Date: Tuesday Dec 12 Time: 1300-1400 (Afternoon Sessions I) (break) 1545-1645 (Afternoon Sessions III) http://www.ietf.org/meetings/agenda.html The draft-agenda for the BOF is given below, and an msec mailing list is being set-up. Yours, Thomas ------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Multicast Security BOF (msec) Tuesday 12 Dec, 13:00pm ============================== CHAIR: Ran Canetti Thomas Hardjono DESCRIPTION: There is significant interest in the networking industry and content delivery network industry to use IP multicast a vehicle for data delivery to a large audience. One major hindrance to the successful deployment of IP multicast and other group-oriented communication protocols has been the lack of security for both the content and the content-delivery infrastructure. In particular, there has been increasing demand for secure solutions for the 1-to-Many type of group communications, as exemplified by the interest of the cable television sector in using the Internet for content distribution and by the recent emergence of the single-source paradigm in IP multicasting. To this end, the Secure Multicast (SMuG) research group was formed in 1998 under the umbrella of the IRTF. That group has characterized the security concerns and problem areas, has come up with a framework for an overall solution, and has developed protocols for solving much of the problem space in a satisfactory manner. Several of these protocols have reached the needed maturity to be considered for standardization at the IETF. The proposed WG will further develop and standadize the protocols developed at the SMuG RG. The focus will be on mature protocols that are deployable in short term in today's internet. The SMuG RG will continue to examine issues that need further research, delivering protocols to McSEC when they are mature. In the immediate future McSEC will focus on the 1-to-Many group communication, and will address at least the following issues: - Developing the transformations to be applied to the multicasted data. These transformations will provide at least the following functionalities: + Encryption of data using a group key available to all members. + Source and Data Authentications even when the data receivers do not trust each other. Both functionalities are required for content-authors and content-distributors. They represent an important element in the larger digital rights management area. - Group Security Association and Key Management. Secure protocols are needed for management of cryptographic keys and Security Associations for groups. These include techniques for initial key dissemination, key updates and refreshments, and Group Security Association (Group SA) management. Depending on the acceptance and stability of the above two issues, the following issues will be addressed by the WG in the immediate future: - Group Security Policies. Different levels of policies exist for a group, covering a range from member behavior to cryptographic policies. - Secure group announcements. Information regarding the existence of a group, its policies, base security mechanisms and methods for joining needs to be announced in a suitable manner. Secure multicast touches upon the work of several other working groups. The proposed WG will take care to coordinate its activities with the relevant directorates (security, routing, transport) and especially with the IPSec and RMT working groups. The WG will not work on: - Security issues at firewalls and NATs relating to multicast traffic. - Protection against illegal re-distribution of multicasted data. AGENDA: 10 mins - Agenda bashing 10 mins - Charter presentation 80 mins - Internet draft presentations: 10 mins - Taxonomy of multicast security concerns (draft-irtf-smug-taxonomy-01.txt) 10 mins - Framework overview (draft-irtf-smug-framework-01.txt) - Data transforms: 10 mins - Overall design (draft-irtf-smug-data-transforms-00.txt) 10 mins - Source authentication (draft-irtf-smug-tesla-00.txt) - Group key and SA management 10 mins - GKM Building Block (draft-irtf-smug-gkmbb-gsadef-00.txt) 10 mins - GSAKMP (draft-harney-sparta-gsakmp-sec-01.txt) 10 mins - Group DOI for ISAKMP (draft-irtf-smug-gdoi-00.txt) 10 mins - Group policy management (draft-mcast-pol-req00.txt) 20 mins - Open Discussion (work descriptions, objectives, goals/milestones) MAILING LIST A mailing list is currently being set-up. The website is www.securemulticast.org, which contains the drafts (below) and other reading material. READING MATERIAL draft-irtf-smug-taxonomy-02.txt draft-irtf-smug-framework-01.txt draft-irtf-smug-data-transforms-01.txt draft-irtf-smug-tesla-00.txt draft-irtf-smug-gkmbb-gsadef-00.txt draft-harney-sparta-gsakmp-sec-01.txt draft-irtf-smug-gdoi-00.txt draft-irtf-smug-pol-req00.txt ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Fri Oct 27 13:45:17 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA11045 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09737; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:13:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09733 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05139 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05135 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA01955; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200010271713.NAA01955@ietf.org> To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: RFC Editor , IANA Cc: Internet Architecture Board Cc: rmt@lbl.gov From: The IESG Subject: Document Action: Reliable Multicast Transport Building Blocks for One-to-Many Bulk-Data Transfer to Informational Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:13:23 -0400 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk The IESG has approved the Internet-Draft 'Reliable Multicast Transport Building Blocks for One-to-Many Bulk-Data Transfer' as a Informational RFC. This document is the product of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Allison Mankin and Scott Bradner. Note to RFC Editor: Please Rename Section 5 to be Security Considerations. From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Oct 30 14:58:06 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA25722 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20840; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:12 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20836 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11531 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [208.30.174.2]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11522 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sprintlabs.com (ip199-2-53-131.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.131]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2652.78) id 47VNGG9L; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:54:56 -0800 Message-ID: <39FDC3E8.B2CF173@sprintlabs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:54:32 -0800 From: Christophe Diot Organization: SPRINT ATL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cost264@lip6.fr, rm@mash.CS.Berkeley.EDU, end2end-interest@ISI.EDU, tccc@ieee.org, itc@ieee.org, maddogs@ietf.org, ssm-interest@external.cisco.com, rmt@lbl.gov, fred bauer Subject: NGC 2000: next week in stanford References: <39D11F0B.934908B9@sprintlabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NGC is coming soon and only 10 more people can register. 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