From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Wed Nov 1 22:26:08 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id WAA26209 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08295; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:20:41 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08291 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06064 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06055 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: [from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox 2.1) with ESMTP id TAA10763 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:20:37 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from homer.arc.corp.mot.com (homer.arc.corp.mot.com [217.1.10.38]) by pobox.mot.com (MOT-pobox 2.0) with ESMTP id TAA18637 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:20:35 -0700 (MST)] Received: from motorola.com (mccoy.arc.corp.mot.com [217.1.10.204]) by homer.arc.corp.mot.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eA22K1S16856 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:20:01 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3A00CEE7.DB675A83@motorola.com> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 13:18:15 +1100 From: Roger Kermode Reply-To: Roger.Kermode@motorola.com Organization: Motorola X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmt-list Subject: Announcment: multicast security BOF at San Diego IETF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------608BAF969F4A519981D5B3B0" Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------608BAF969F4A519981D5B3B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear everyone, the chairs of the IRTF Secure Multicast Research Group will be holding a BoF on Secure Multicast at the next IETF. Please take a moment to read the announcement below if you're so interested, cheers, Roger --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Multicast Security BOF (msec) Tuesday, December 12 at 1415-1515 Tuesday, December 12 at 1700-1800 ================================= CHAIR: Ran Canetti Thomas Hardjono DESCRIPTION: There is significant interest in the networking industry and content delivery network industry to use IP multicast a vehicle for data delivery to a large audience. One major hindrance to the successful deployment of IP multicast and other group-oriented communication protocols has been the lack of security for both the content and the content-delivery infrastructure. In particular, there has been increasing demand for secure solutions for the 1-to-Many type of group communications, as exemplified by the interest of the cable television sector in using the Internet for content distribution and by the recent emergence of the single-source paradigm in IP multicasting. To this end, the Secure Multicast (SMuG) research group was formed in 1998 under the umbrella of the IRTF. That group has characterized the security concerns and problem areas, has come up with a framework for an overall solution, and has developed protocols for solving much of the problem space in a satisfactory manner. Several of these protocols have reached the needed maturity to be considered for standardization at the IETF. The proposed WG will further develop and standardize the protocols developed at the SMuG RG. The focus will be on mature protocols that are deployable in short term in today's internet. The SMuG RG will continue to examine issues that need further research, delivering protocols to MSEC when they are mature. In the immediate future MSEC will focus on the 1-to-Many group communication, and will address at least the following issues: - Developing the transformations to be applied to the multicasted data. These transformations will provide at least the following functionalities: + Encryption of data using a group key available to all members. + Source and Data Authentications even when the data receivers do not trust each other. Both functionalities are required for content-authors and content-distributors. They represent an important element in the larger digital rights management area. - Group Security Association and Key Management. Secure protocols are needed for management of cryptographic keys and Security Associations for groups. These include techniques for initial key dissemination, key updates and refreshments, and Group Security Association (Group SA) management. Depending on the acceptance and stability of the above two issues, the following issues will be addressed by the WG in the immediate future: - Group Security Policies. Different levels of policies exist for a group, covering a range from member behavior to cryptographic policies. - Secure group announcements. Information regarding the existence of a group, its policies, base security mechanisms and methods for joining needs to be announced in a suitable manner. Secure multicast touches upon the work of several other working groups. The proposed WG will take care to coordinate its activities with the relevant directorates (security, routing, transport) and especially with the IPSec and RMT working groups. The WG will not work on: - Security issues at firewalls and NATs relating to multicast traffic. - Protection against illegal re-distribution of multicasted data. AGENDA: 10 mins - Agenda bashing 10 mins - Charter presentation 80 mins - Internet draft presentations: 10 mins - Taxonomy of multicast security concerns (draft-irtf-smug-taxonomy-01.txt) 10 mins - Framework overview (draft-irtf-smug-framework-01.txt) - Data transforms: 10 mins - Overall design (draft-irtf-smug-data-transforms-00.txt) 10 mins - Source authentication (draft-irtf-smug-tesla-00.txt) - Group key and SA management 10 mins - GKM Building Block (draft-irtf-smug-gkmbb-gsadef-00.txt) 10 mins - GSAKMP (draft-harney-sparta-gsakmp-sec-02.txt) 10 mins - Group DOI for ISAKMP (draft-irtf-smug-gdoi-00.txt) 10 mins - Group policy management (draft-mcast-pol-req00.txt) 20 mins - Open Discussion (work descriptions, objectives, goals/milestones) MAILING LIST The mailing list is at msec-request@securemulticast.org (or email the chairs). 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From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Wed Nov 8 19:12:23 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id TAA14209 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:12:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18292; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:36:47 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18288 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28441 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [208.30.174.2]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28435 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.sprintlabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) id <47VNGVPH>; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:36:40 -0800 Message-ID: <90B65CE19D3DD411895400805F0DAA7A0BDFF7@mailman.sprintlabs.com> From: Christophe Diot To: NGC2000-PC , "'Cost264@lip6.fr'" , "'rm@mash.CS.Berkeley.EDU'" , "'maddogs@ietf.org'" , "'ssm-interest@external.cisco.com'" , "'rmt@lbl.gov'" Subject: NGC 2000 retransmission on SSM Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:36:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk 8, November, 2000 Thanks to Sprint, Cisco, the University of Oregon, UC-Santa Barbara, and Stanford University, NGC2000, the Second International Workshop on Networked Group Communication is being multicast live from the Stanford University Campus Nov. 8-10. 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From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Sun Nov 12 11:48:34 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA22003 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00959; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:59:51 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00955 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04060 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from davis.bandwiz.com ([212.150.220.34]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04057 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 07:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by davis.bandwiz.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:59:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: Meir Feder To: "'rmt@lbl.gov'" , "'luby@digitalfountain.com'" Cc: Doron Rajwan , Nadav Shulman Subject: Separating the MRCC from the ALC/FEC Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:59:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Dear RMT-er's, In response to the standardization effort of the RMT working group in the drafts ALC-01 and MRCC-00, we feel that the ALC draft combines together the FEC and the congestion control somewhat unnecessarily. Thus, we like to suggest that the draft will maintain a clear separation of the functionality between the MRCC and the ALC/FEC part. We believe that the MRCC will prove itself as a working protocol for multicast congestion control, that is important for interoperability and for friendly network behavior. The FEC is the data (maybe the most natural data) that is transferred via the MRCC transport. Thus, MRCC should essentially be (and is) for the Transport layer (layer 4), while ALC/FEC should be for the Application layer (layer 7). The separation will give the following benefits: 1. MRCC will be able to deliver not only FEC packets but also, e.g., RTP packets (for continuous real-time viewing). When the payload is ALC/FEC packets, registering to more MRCC layers will provide a faster download. When using RTP packets, it can provide higher quality streams, by using successive refinement payload. 2. Since MRCC and ALC/FEC (implementing different communication layers) will each have its own header, version number, header size field, extension fields, and so on, modifications in one should not affect the other. 3. The long-term goal should be the implementation of MRCC at the kernel level, like TCP today, in order to give true inter-operability, congestion control, fairness, safety, robustness and so on. Applications will create MRCC socket, possibly giving only (S,G), and start receiving packets at varying rates. If MRCC is not implemented at the kernel, there is a danger that we will see more aggressive MRCC implementations over time. 4. ALC/FEC packets should carry only application-related information, not transport. Note that, then, the source of ALC/FEC packets can be payload of MRCC protocol, disk files, caches, broadcast channels (when there is no need for MRCC...) or any other source. The separation is clear and simple. The header part of the ALC associated with congestion control will be in the MRCC, while the ALC/FEC header will have the code information. In general, in order to know if some information should be in the header field of MRCC or ALC/FEC, one should ask the following question: If a packet is cached to the disk, and re-transmitted later, should it have the original value (ALC/FEC) or a new value (MRCC). Thus, for example, the time extension mechanism should migrate to MRCC. Meir Feder and Doron Rajwan Bandwiz From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Sun Nov 12 14:30:05 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA13261 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01115; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:02:05 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01111 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12365 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12362 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 11:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06380; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:00:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200011121900.UAA06380@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Separating the MRCC from the ALC/FEC In-Reply-To: from Meir Feder at "Nov 12, 2000 05:59:05 pm" To: Meir Feder Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 20:00:18 +0100 (CET) CC: "'rmt@lbl.gov'" , "'luby@digitalfountain.com'" , Doron Rajwan , Nadav Shulman X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, ... > drafts ALC-01 and MRCC-00, we feel that the ALC draft combines together the > FEC and the congestion control somewhat unnecessarily. Thus, we like to point well taken and in fact we are working on a revised version of ALC draft mostly along the lines you suggest. In ALC-01 the MRCC info is already well separated from the ALC header (the header field is opaque); it is true that ALC-01 still has some FEC-related header fields which do not belong there, and we are revising the draft and move this info to the payload. > 2. Since MRCC and ALC/FEC (implementing different communication layers) will > each have its own header, version number, header size field, extension > fields, and so on, modifications in one should not affect the other. I am not too happy in using two different headers for MRCC (or whatever cong. control protocol is going to be used) and ALC, as you seem to suggest, as some form of cong.control is an integral part of ALC. > 3. The long-term goal should be the implementation of MRCC at the kernel > level, like TCP today, in order to give true inter-operability, congestion ... > varying rates. If MRCC is not implemented at the kernel, there is a danger > that we will see more aggressive MRCC implementations over time. having a protocol implemented in kernel or user space is irrelevant for most aspects, except perhaps overhead at source/receiver (which i do not think is a concern here) and ease of deployment (and this is a double-edged sword). We can have bad (more aggressive, or buggy, or just initial) kernel implementations of MRCC and be stuck with them for a long time because people do not upgrade the OS (there are still IGMPv1 hosta around). Or we can have good user-space implementations of MRCC and stand the risk of people using "accelerators" which are more aggressive than they should (same as it happens with TCP and various companies offering modified stacks). > The separation is clear and simple. The header part of the ALC associated > with congestion control will be in the MRCC, while the ALC/FEC header will > have the code information. In general, in order to know if some information > should be in the header field of MRCC or ALC/FEC, one should ask the > following question: If a packet is cached to the disk, and re-transmitted > later, should it have the original value (ALC/FEC) or a new value (MRCC). > Thus, for example, the time extension mechanism should migrate to MRCC. I partly disagree with the example. CC controls the throughput ("slower", "faster"), whereas the time extension mechanism operates at a higher level ("I am not done yet"). It certainly does not belong to MRCC e.g. for streaming video you do not need it ("sorry, the show is over!"). You might argue that it does not even belong to ALC/FEC, but the thing is you have to info somewhere. cheers luigi rizzo ----------------------------------+----------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . ACIRI/ICSI (on leave from Univ. di Pisa) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . 1947 Center St, Berkeley CA 94704 Phone (510) 666 2927 . ----------------------------------+----------------------------------------- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Fri Nov 17 04:57:07 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA04445 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA23006; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:59 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23002 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01981 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from acm.cs.umn.edu (acm.cs.umn.edu [128.101.32.12]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01976 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from monopoly.cs.umn.edu (monopoly.cs.umn.edu [128.101.32.5]) by acm.cs.umn.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAH8e6q09362 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:40:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from orasis@acm.cs.umn.edu) Received: (from orasis@localhost) by monopoly.cs.umn.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25368 for rmt@lbl.gov; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:36:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 02:36:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011171036.CAA25368@monopoly.cs.umn.edu> From: Justin Chapweske To: rmt@lbl.gov Subject: Java FEC Library & Java ALC Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Hello all, we have just released a Java library for FEC encoding, decoding, and IO at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/swarmcast/. We are committed to having the best Java FEC library out there, so we will be constantly making minor improvements to this core package and would greatly appreciate any feedback. Next we will be doing an ALC/RLC implementation that will be released under the LGPL. We have not yet started on this and love to collaborate with anyone else that has started or interested in such an undertaking. Release Notes for Java FEC v0.5 This software is a library for performing Forward Error Correction (FEC) encoding, decoding, and IO in Java. 1 Features 1. A SPI plugin architecture that allows any FEC code that has no inherent reception innefficiency to be plugged in. Preferences between different implementations can be expressed via a simple configuration file. 2. A pure Java port of Luigi Rizzo's wonderful C FEC package. The code for this port is quite solid and provides an acceptible 33/k MB/s performance on a 500mhz k6-2 for 8 bit codes. This is 4-5 times faster than the port done by Dan Rubenstein's group, which is to be expected as they were more focused on adding interesting encoding/decoding features than speed. 3. A much improved version of Lorenzo Vicisano's JNI wrapper. The JNI calls now have a negligable overhead for a delightful 160/k MB/s on a 900mhz Athlon. If a native library for your platform is not available then it will fall back to the pure Java version. 4. A FEC I/O package that is optimized for decoding speed and low memory consumption. 5. For the license I've simply included Luigi's original copyright, so you can basically do whatever you want with this thing. But if you do use this thing, please let me know what I can do to make it better for you. 2 Future Work/Open Tasks 1. Implement different IO routines based on Jim Gemmel's very nicely written paper on FEC performance tuning. 2. Implement more codes (Please let me know if you know of any codes as I'll implement them myself if they are compelling enough) 3. Tune the 16 bit codes to create the minimum required matrices on demand, this will allow n values of up to 65536 to be feasible. 4. The shuffling proceedure causes some confusing behavior for decoding, this will be fixed asap. 5. Have the native implementation automatically deploy itself so that the user does not have to manually set up their library path. -Justin From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Fri Nov 24 18:58:39 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA01412 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23244; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:12:46 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23234 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15588 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15582 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA21861; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:12:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011242312.SAA21861@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: rmt@lbl.gov From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lct-00.txt Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:12:13 -0500 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : RMT BB Forward Error Correction Codes Author(s) : M. Luby et al. Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-02.txt Pages : 12 Date : 22-Nov-00 This memo describes the abstract packet formats and IANA registration procedures for use of Forward Error Correction (FEC) codes within the context of reliable IP multicast transport. This memo should be read in conjunction with and uses the terminology of the companion memo [1], which describes the use of Forward Error Correction (FEC) codes within the context of reliable IP multicast transport and provides an introduction to some commonly used FEC codes. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-02.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Block: Layered Congestion Control Author(s) : M. Luby et al. Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lcc-00.txt Pages : 20 Date : 22-Nov-00 This document describes LCC, a scalable layered congestion control building block for multicast. LCC is a combination of approaches that allow multiple receivers to concurrently receive packets from a single sender at varying rates depending on individual bandwidth connections and network conditions. Two basic goals of the approach are to allow each receiver to obtain the full benefit of the available bandwidth to the sender and to be fair to other flows in the network. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lcc-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : The use of Forward Error Correction in Reliable Multicast Author(s) : M. Luby et al. Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-00.txt Pages : 18 Date : 22-Nov-00 This memo describes the use of Forward Error Correction (FEC) codes within the context of reliable IP multicast transport and provides an introduction to some commonly-used FEC codes. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001122150137.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001122150137.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Tue Nov 28 00:07:54 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA14681 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05463; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:23:56 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05459 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29593 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from acm.cs.umn.edu (acm.cs.umn.edu [128.101.32.12]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29590 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from monopoly.cs.umn.edu (monopoly.cs.umn.edu [128.101.32.5]) by acm.cs.umn.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAS4OUq59925 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:24:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from orasis@acm.cs.umn.edu) Received: (from orasis@localhost) by monopoly.cs.umn.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21496 for rmt@lbl.gov; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:21:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:21:21 -0800 From: Justin Chapweske To: rmt@lbl.gov Subject: Vandermonde FEC name Message-ID: <20001127222121.G12583@monopoly.cs.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Very nice job on the newest drafts guys, especially on the RMT BB FEC Codes draft. It is very close to what I implemented against the old ALC draft. Now that 128 is specified as the encoding ID for small block codes, does anyone (Luigi) know what the FEC Encoding Name will be for the Vandermonde codes? -- Justin Chapweske, Lead Swarmcast Developer, openCOLA Inc. http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/swarmcast/ From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Tue Nov 28 00:44:07 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id AAA22899 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05541; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:00:08 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05537 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02421 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from acm.cs.umn.edu (acm.cs.umn.edu [128.101.32.12]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02417 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from monopoly.cs.umn.edu (monopoly.cs.umn.edu [128.101.32.5]) by acm.cs.umn.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAS50gq60715 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:00:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from orasis@acm.cs.umn.edu) Received: (from orasis@localhost) by monopoly.cs.umn.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21875 for rmt@lbl.gov; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:57:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:57:37 -0800 From: Justin Chapweske To: rmt@lbl.gov Subject: test... Message-ID: <20001127225737.H12583@monopoly.cs.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk testing to see if my mail is getting through to the list.. -- Justin Chapweske, Lead Swarmcast Developer, openCOLA Inc. http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/swarmcast/ From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Tue Nov 28 07:17:24 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA05402 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA05844; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:22:47 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05840 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10336 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10325 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18835; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:25:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200011281125.MAA18835@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Vandermonde FEC name In-Reply-To: <20001127222121.G12583@monopoly.cs.umn.edu> from Justin Chapweske at "Nov 27, 2000 10:21:21 pm" To: Justin Chapweske Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:25:14 +0100 (CET) CC: rmt@lbl.gov X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Very nice job on the newest drafts guys, especially on the RMT BB FEC > Codes draft. It is very close to what I implemented against the old ALC > draft. > > Now that 128 is specified as the encoding ID for small block > codes, does anyone (Luigi) know what the FEC Encoding Name will be for the > Vandermonde codes? no idea, sorry. cheers luigi > -- > Justin Chapweske, Lead Swarmcast Developer, openCOLA Inc. > http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/swarmcast/ > From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Wed Nov 29 07:16:23 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA23616 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12846; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:31:26 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA12842 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07749 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07746 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 03:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA01933; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:31:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200011291131.GAA01933@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: rmt@lbl.gov From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-rmt-bb-track-00.txt Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:31:21 -0500 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Block for TRACK Author(s) : B. Whetten, D. Chiu et al. Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-track-00.txt Pages : 26 Date : 28-Nov-00 This document describes the TRACK Building Block. It contains functions relating to positive acknowledgments and hierarchical tree construction and maintenance. It is primarily meant to be used as part of the TRACK Protocol Instantiation. It is also designed to be useful as part of overlay multicast systems that wish to offer efficient confirmed delivery of multicast messages. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-track-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-rmt-bb-track-00.txt". 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Block: Tree Auto-Configuration Author(s) : M. Kadansky, B. Levine, D. Chiu, B. Whetten, G. Taskale, B. Cain, D. Thaler, S. Koh Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Pages : 21 Date : 28-Nov-00 The Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group has been chartered to standardize multicast transport services. This working group expects to initially standardize three protocol instantiations. This draft is concerned with the requirements of the tree-based ACK protocol. In particular, it is concerned with defining the building block for auto-configuration of the logical ACK-tree. According to the charter, a building block is 'a coarse-grained modular component that is common to multiple protocols along with abstract APIs that define a building block's access methods and their arguments.' 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : NACK-Oriented Reliable Multicast Protocol (NORM) Author(s) : B. Adamson, C. Bormann, S. Floyd, M. Handley, J. Macker Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-pi-norm-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 28-Nov-00 This document describes the messages and procedures of the Nega- tive-acknowledgement (NACK) oriented reliable multicast (NORM). This revision of the document represents an initial outline of the protocol description. The document requires refinement in a number of areas to be considered complete. At this time, the document describes the high level details of the reliable multicast bulk transfer service model this protocol hopes to fulfill and the gen- eral message types and mechanisms which will be used to accomplish those goals. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-pi-norm-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Block: Tree Auto-Configuration Author(s) : M. Kadansky, B. Levine, D. Chiu, B. Whetten, G. Taskale, B. Cain, D. Thaler, S. Koh Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Pages : 21 Date : 28-Nov-00 The Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group has been chartered to standardize multicast transport services. This working group expects to initially standardize three protocol instantiations. This draft is concerned with the requirements of the tree-based ACK protocol. In particular, it is concerned with defining the building block for auto-configuration of the logical ACK-tree. According to the charter, a building block is 'a coarse-grained modular component that is common to multiple protocols along with abstract APIs that define a building block's access methods and their arguments.' For more information, see the Reliable Multicast Transport Building Blocks and Reliable Multicast Design Space documents [WLKHFL00][HWKFV00]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Block: Tree Auto-Configuration Author(s) : M. Kadansky, B. Levine, D. Chiu, B. Whetten, G. Taskale, B. Cain, D. Thaler, S. Koh Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Pages : 21 Date : 28-Nov-00 The Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group has been chartered to standardize multicast transport services. This working group expects to initially standardize three protocol instantiations. This draft is concerned with the requirements of the tree-based ACK protocol. In particular, it is concerned with defining the building block for auto-configuration of the logical ACK-tree. According to the charter, a building block is 'a coarse-grained modular component that is common to multiple protocols along with abstract APIs that define a building block's access methods and their arguments.' For more information, see the Reliable Multicast Transport Building Blocks and Reliable Multicast Design Space documents [WLKHFL00][HWKFV00]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. 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This draft is a work item of the Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group of the IETF. Title : Reliable Multicast Transport Building Block: Tree Auto-Configuration Author(s) : M. Kadansky, B. Levine, D. Chiu, B. Whetten, G. Taskale, B. Cain, D. Thaler, S. Koh Filename : draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Pages : 21 Date : 28-Nov-00 The Reliable Multicast Transport Working Group has been chartered to standardize multicast transport services. This working group expects to initially standardize three protocol instantiations. This draft is concerned with the requirements of the tree-based ACK protocol. In particular, it is concerned with defining the building block for auto-configuration of the logical ACK-tree. According to the charter, a building block is 'a coarse-grained modular component that is common to multiple protocols along with abstract APIs that define a building block's access methods and their arguments.' For more information, see the Reliable Multicast Transport Building Blocks and Reliable Multicast Design Space documents [WLKHFL00][HWKFV00]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001128134550.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20001128134550.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Thu Nov 30 18:33:09 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA27629 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21466; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:10:39 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21458 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10987 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from motgate2.mot.com (motgate2.mot.com [136.182.1.10]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10872 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: [from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate2.mot.com (motgate2 2.1) with ESMTP id PAA17469; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:09:49 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from homer.arc.corp.mot.com (homer.arc.corp.mot.com [217.1.10.38]) by pobox.mot.com (MOT-pobox 2.0) with ESMTP id PAA16741; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:09:46 -0700 (MST)] Received: from arc.corp.mot.com (marcia.arc.corp.mot.com [217.1.10.74]) by homer.arc.corp.mot.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eAUM8US05125; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:08:30 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3A26CF70.552047EF@arc.corp.mot.com> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 09:06:40 +1100 From: Roger Kermode Reply-To: Roger.Kermode@motorola.com Organization: Motorola X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmt-list CC: Lorenzo Vicisano , Allison Mankin Subject: RMT Tentative Agenda (items only at this stage) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0336CD28CEB2CCF5E1221257" Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0336CD28CEB2CCF5E1221257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear RMT'ers, in preparing the agenda for the San Diego meeting We've noticed that we have a lot of drafts, some of which are new and some of which have expired. In keeping with directives from the ADs we are asking that presenters assume that people have read the draft and that their presentations consist of a brief summary of the draft/updates to the draft followed by discussion on outstanding issues. Given this approach we are expecting that there will only be presentations for the drafts that have changed since the last meeting, i.e. drafts with * in front of them. To date we've only received a couple of explicit requests for time slots. If you want to present during the RMT sessions at the IETF please email the chairs ASAP regards, Roger, Lorenzo, and Allison Outstanding RMT Drafts/Potential Presentations at San Diego ========================================= Key: * = updated since last meeting exp = draft has expired Agenda Bashing, Roger 5 mins General Draft Updates * NORM reorganisation * ALC drafts * * TRACK * CONGESTION CONTROL * Mike Luby 15 mins? GRA exp Individual drafts * Ken Calvert 15 mins MIBs Michale Garwood 10 mins msec WG advertisement, Roger, 5 mins --------------0336CD28CEB2CCF5E1221257 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rkermode.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Roger Kermode Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rkermode.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Kermode;Roger tel;cell:+61-408-212-284 tel;fax:+61-2-9666-0501 tel;home:+61-2-9664-8335 tel;work:+61-2-9666-0558 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.mot.com.au org:Motorola Australian Research Centre;Communications and Networking Lab version:2.1 email;internet:Roger.Kermode@motorola.com title:Principal Research Engineer, Manager adr;quoted-printable:;;Level 3,=0D=0A12 Lord St.;Botany;NSW;2019;Australia fn:Roger Kermode end:vcard --------------0336CD28CEB2CCF5E1221257--