From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 12:36:55 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA07969 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09125; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09121 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28600 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from east.isi.edu (east.isi.edu [38.245.76.2]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28589 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from maia.east.isi.edu (maia.east.isi.edu [38.245.76.14]) by east.isi.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA26743; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:38:48 -0500 Message-Id: <10012041638.AA28386@maia.east.isi.edu> Received: from LOCALHOST.east.isi.edu by maia.east.isi.edu (4.1/4.0.3-6) id ; Mon, 4 Dec 00 11:38:49 EST To: agenda@ietf.org Subject: RMT Draft Agenda Cc: lorenzo@cisco.com, roger.kermode@motorola.com, mankin@ISI.EDU, sob@harvard.edu, rmt@lbl.gov Reply-To: mankin@east.isi.edu Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:38:48 -0500 From: Allison Mankin Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk RMT Topics at San Diego - Draft Agenda ====================================== Key: exp = draft has expired * = updated since last meeting, expected to be discussed, times to be refined no star means probably not to be discussed Agenda Bashing, Roger 5 mins General Draft Updates * NORM reorganisation * ALC drafts * * TRACK * CONGESTION CONTROL * Mike Luby 15 mins? GRA/PGM exp Newly issued PGM draft - plan? Individual drafts (not in charter) * Ken Calvert 15 mins MIBs Michale Garwood 10 mins Advertisement of MSEC BOF, Roger, 5 mins Advertisement of discussion of TFRC in TSVWG, Allison 2 mins From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 13:10:55 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA16339 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09408; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09404 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18090 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from cisco.com (zipper.cisco.com [171.69.25.142]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18086 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (speakman@localhost) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.2-SunOS.5.5.1.sun4/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21548; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 09:18:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012041718.JAA21548@cisco.com> To: mankin@east.isi.edu cc: sob@harvard.edu, rmt@lbl.gov Subject: Re: RMT Draft Agenda Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.105) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:18:32 -0800 From: Tony Speakman Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk > GRA/PGM > exp At least one of the authors is no longer active on the draft while others have expressed interest. I plan to revisit the thing with Don Towsley and Christos Papadopoulos shortly, but there's nothing to discuss for the moment. > Newly issued PGM draft - plan? On behalf of all the PGM authors, I can say that we have no plan to discuss the new PGM spec in this forum. Tony S From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 14:01:07 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA29563 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09996; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:17:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09992 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12605 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.webfountain.com (mail.webfountain.com [63.161.54.5]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12594 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from leningrad (gate.webfountain.com [63.161.54.3]) by mail.webfountain.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17928; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:16:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.webfountain.com: Host gate.webfountain.com [63.161.54.3] claimed to be leningrad From: "Mike Luby" To: , Cc: , , , Subject: RE: RMT Draft Agenda Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:16:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <10012041638.AA28386@maia.east.isi.edu> Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Allison et. al., Roger sent out a very similar draft agenda recently, and I sent the enclosed email back to him in response. Please take a look at what this email proposes before making up the final schedule. Thanks, Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- From: Mike Luby [luby@digitalfountain.com] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:53 PM To: Roger.Kermode@motorola.com Cc: Michael Luby; Luigi Rizzo; Lorenzo Vicisano; Mark Handley Subject: RE: RMT Tentative Agenda (items only at this stage) Roger, A couple of clarifications and explanations. We submitted four drafts this time from within what used to be called the ALC track (changing the name, and not all of the drafts formally belong in whatever the track is called anyway). The four new drafts are the LCT draft (correctly listed below, which will subsume the ALC draft), the LCC draft (correctly listed below, which will subsume the MRCC draft), and two FEC drafts. There is only one FEC draft listed below. There is a new version draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-02.txt of the previous FEC draft, and then there is a new FEC draft called draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-00.txt. Here is how it all fits together: It was decided by Mark Handley and Luigi Rizzo that ALC should be renamed Layered Coding Transport (LCT), and Lorenzo and I agreed with their proposal. The basic rationale is that the LCT protocol could be used for more than reliable content delivery of one object in the future, and in particular it could be used for things like use with layered codecs for video delivery, or for sequential delivery of many objects, etc. In conjunction with this I decided that the MRCC name was too general (multi-rate congestion control can be achieve by a variety of means that don't involve layering), and thus I thought it would be better to rename this to Layered Congestion Control (LCC) (which is more in the spirit of the name LCT). As we are gaining experience with the building block approach, we decided that it made sense to split the FEC documents into two parts: one informational track draft that would describe the available codes and their uses within the RMT working group (this is the new draft, which largely contains material taken from the previous building block draft), and another standards track draft that would specify the abstract packet formats and IANA registration considerations for some specific codes that can be used in conjunction with LCT (also containing material largely from the previous building block draft, and this draft maintained the name of the previous draft). We didn't do this yet with the LCC building block, but I believe that in the long term, if this approach work for the FEC building block, the same model will be adopted by the LCC building block (and perhaps all the building blocks). So, given all of this, I think it actually makes sense to have an agenda item on the schedule for someone to describe all of these structural and naming changes and the rationales behind them. I nominate Mark Handley for this general presentation. Then, I think that Luigi Rizzo should do the LCT presentation and Lorenzo Vicisano should do the two FEC presentations, and I will do the LCC presentation (assuming that they are all willing to do it, of course). Make sense? Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-rmt@lbl.gov [mailto:owner-rmt@lbl.gov]On Behalf Of Roger Kermode Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:07 PM To: rmt-list Cc: Lorenzo Vicisano; Allison Mankin Subject: RMT Tentative Agenda (items only at this stage) Dear RMT'ers, in preparing the agenda for the San Diego meeting We've noticed that we have a lot of drafts, some of which are new and some of which have expired. In keeping with directives from the ADs we are asking that presenters assume that people have read the draft and that their presentations consist of a brief summary of the draft/updates to the draft followed by discussion on outstanding issues. Given this approach we are expecting that there will only be presentations for the drafts that have changed since the last meeting, i.e. drafts with * in front of them. To date we've only received a couple of explicit requests for time slots. If you want to present during the RMT sessions at the IETF please email the chairs ASAP regards, Roger, Lorenzo, and Allison Outstanding RMT Drafts/Potential Presentations at San Diego ========================================= Key: * = updated since last meeting exp = draft has expired Agenda Bashing, Roger 5 mins General Draft Updates * NORM reorganisation * ALC drafts * * TRACK * CONGESTION CONTROL * Mike Luby 15 mins? GRA exp Individual drafts * Ken Calvert 15 mins MIBs Michale Garwood 10 mins msec WG advertisement, Roger, 5 mins ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- -----Original Message----- From: owner-rmt@lbl.gov [mailto:owner-rmt@lbl.gov]On Behalf Of Allison Mankin Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:39 AM To: agenda@ietf.org Cc: lorenzo@cisco.com; roger.kermode@motorola.com; mankin@ISI.EDU; sob@harvard.edu; rmt@lbl.gov Subject: RMT Draft Agenda RMT Topics at San Diego - Draft Agenda ====================================== Key: exp = draft has expired * = updated since last meeting, expected to be discussed, times to be refined no star means probably not to be discussed Agenda Bashing, Roger 5 mins General Draft Updates * NORM reorganisation * ALC drafts * * TRACK * CONGESTION CONTROL * Mike Luby 15 mins? GRA/PGM exp Newly issued PGM draft - plan? Individual drafts (not in charter) * Ken Calvert 15 mins MIBs Michale Garwood 10 mins Advertisement of MSEC BOF, Roger, 5 mins Advertisement of discussion of TFRC in TSVWG, Allison 2 mins From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 14:48:35 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA11659 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10257; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10253 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00060 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from east.isi.edu (east.isi.edu [38.245.76.2]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00030 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from maia.east.isi.edu (maia.east.isi.edu [38.245.76.14]) by east.isi.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA28388; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:57:58 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 14:01:37 -0500 Message-Id: <10012041901.AA28589@maia.east.isi.edu> Received: from LOCALHOST.east.isi.edu by maia.east.isi.edu (4.1/4.0.3-6) id ; Mon, 4 Dec 00 14:01:37 EST To: Tony Speakman Cc: mankin@east.isi.edu, sob@harvard.edu, rmt@lbl.gov Reply-To: mankin@east.isi.edu Subject: Re: RMT Draft Agenda In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 04 Dec 2000 09:18:32 -0800. <200012041718.JAA21548@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 14:01:37 -0500 From: Allison Mankin Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Tony, Thanks for your response to the agenda trial balloons... we'll remove those discussions from the agenda, but look forward to hearing about GRA's revival soon. If anyone wants to just give a short talk about the plans, the chairs are receptive... From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 14:51:09 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA12253 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 14:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10198; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:55:36 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10194 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29088 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from east.isi.edu (east.isi.edu [38.245.76.2]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29078 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from maia.east.isi.edu (maia.east.isi.edu [38.245.76.14]) by east.isi.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA28319; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:55:39 -0500 (EST) Posted-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:59:17 -0500 Message-Id: <10012041859.AA28576@maia.east.isi.edu> Received: from LOCALHOST.east.isi.edu by maia.east.isi.edu (4.1/4.0.3-6) id ; Mon, 4 Dec 00 13:59:18 EST To: "Mike Luby" Cc: mankin@east.isi.edu, lorenzo@cisco.com, roger.kermode@motorola.com, sob@harvard.edu, rmt@lbl.gov Reply-To: mankin@east.isi.edu Subject: Re: RMT Draft Agenda In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:16:35 -0800. Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:59:17 -0500 From: Allison Mankin Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Mike, I have dropped agenda@ietf.org from the cc list. We can revise the draft agenda later after we nail down all the details. I jumped in and sent a slightly cleaned-up of Roger's tentative agenda to the Secretariat, because of my AD instincts, wanting RMT very much not to miss today's deadline. In the likely absence of Mark, it sounds to me like you would be a good person to speak to the reorg/rename. Please let us know too how long the several talks you suggest should be. Other comments/corrections on the draft agenda are welcome. Allison From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 15:30:17 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA21653 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10911; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10907 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17351 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.webfountain.com (mail.webfountain.com [63.161.54.5]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17338 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from leningrad (gate.webfountain.com [63.161.54.3]) by mail.webfountain.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA24648; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:38:50 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.webfountain.com: Host gate.webfountain.com [63.161.54.3] claimed to be leningrad From: "Mike Luby" To: Cc: , , , , "Mark Handley" , "Michael Luby" Subject: Some proposals for RMT Draft Agenda Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:38:46 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <10012041859.AA28576@maia.east.isi.edu> Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Allison, Yes, I should have figured that you were making sure to do this before some deadline, and thanks for that. I would be willing to give the general talk, as long as Luigi, Mark and Lorenzo will work with me a bit before the meeting to structure the talk. I'll work with them directly on this if they are willing. Given this, here is my proposed portion of the agenda. I made estimates of the times for each part (and I have less confidence in my time estimates for the presentations with a time interval. Mark, Luigi, Lorenzo, please chip in with your estimates.) Presentation I: General overview (Luby, 20 minutes) (1) Rationale for transition from ALC to LCT (2) Rationale for FEC partitioned into standard track and information track (and why this may be the right approach for all building blocks eventually). (3) Rationale for transition from MRCC to LCC (4) How all the pieces fit together Presentation II: LCT00 changes from ALC01 (Rizzo, 15-20 minutes) Presentation III: FECBB02 and FECInfo00 changes from FECBB01 (Vicisano, 10-15 minutes) Presentation IV: LCC00 changes from MRCC00 (Luby, 5 minutes) Mike -----Original Message----- From: Allison Mankin [mailto:mankin@isi.edu] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 10:59 AM To: Mike Luby Cc: mankin@east.isi.edu; lorenzo@cisco.com; roger.kermode@motorola.com; sob@harvard.edu; rmt@lbl.gov Subject: Re: RMT Draft Agenda Mike, I have dropped agenda@ietf.org from the cc list. We can revise the draft agenda later after we nail down all the details. I jumped in and sent a slightly cleaned-up of Roger's tentative agenda to the Secretariat, because of my AD instincts, wanting RMT very much not to miss today's deadline. In the likely absence of Mark, it sounds to me like you would be a good person to speak to the reorg/rename. Please let us know too how long the several talks you suggest should be. Other comments/corrections on the draft agenda are welcome. Allison From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 4 15:55:32 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA26767 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11043; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11039 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23639 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23629 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lorenzo-u10.cisco.com (lorenzo-u10.cisco.com [171.69.65.85]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16421; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by lorenzo-u10.cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/CISCO.WS.1.2) with ESMTP id LAA22188; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:54:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200012041954.LAA22188@lorenzo-u10.cisco.com> X-Authentication-Warning: lorenzo-u10.cisco.com: lorenzo owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Mike Luby" cc: mankin@east.isi.edu, roger.kermode@motorola.com, sob@harvard.edu, rmt@lbl.gov, "Mark Handley" Subject: Re: Some proposals for RMT Draft Agenda In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:38:46 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 11:54:16 -0800 From: Lorenzo Vicisano Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk > I would be willing to give the general talk, as long as Luigi, Mark and > Lorenzo will work with me a bit before the meeting to structure the talk. > I'll work with them directly on this if they are willing. Given this, here > is my proposed portion of the agenda. I made estimates of the times for > each part (and I have less confidence in my time estimates for the > presentations with a time interval. Mark, Luigi, Lorenzo, please chip in > with your estimates.) Mike, your time estimates seem reasonable to me. Lorenzo > > Presentation I: General overview (Luby, 20 minutes) > (1) Rationale for transition from ALC to LCT > (2) Rationale for FEC partitioned into standard track and information track > (and why this may be the right approach for all building blocks eventually). > (3) Rationale for transition from MRCC to LCC > (4) How all the pieces fit together > > Presentation II: LCT00 changes from ALC01 (Rizzo, 15-20 minutes) > > Presentation III: FECBB02 and FECInfo00 changes from FECBB01 (Vicisano, > 10-15 minutes) > > Presentation IV: LCC00 changes from MRCC00 (Luby, 5 minutes) > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Allison Mankin [mailto:mankin@isi.edu] > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 10:59 AM > To: Mike Luby > Cc: mankin@east.isi.edu; lorenzo@cisco.com; roger.kermode@motorola.com; > sob@harvard.edu; rmt@lbl.gov > Subject: Re: RMT Draft Agenda > > > Mike, > > I have dropped agenda@ietf.org from the cc list. We can revise > the draft agenda later after we nail down all the details. > > I jumped in and sent a slightly cleaned-up of Roger's tentative > agenda to the Secretariat, because of my AD instincts, wanting > RMT very much not to miss today's deadline. > > In the likely absence of Mark, it sounds to me like you would be > a good person to speak to the reorg/rename. 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From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 11 04:34:01 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA28091 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08226; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08222 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06321 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from raq3.ndmc.net ([63.140.75.133]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06318; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by raq3.ndmc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20025 for suscribe2_site123-list; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:48:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: raq3.ndmc.net: mail set sender to owner-suscribe2@www.allairporttransport.com using -f Received: from teapot27.domain5.bigpond.com (teapot27.domain5.bigpond.com [139.134.5.174]) by raq3.ndmc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA20017 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:47:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teapot27.domain5.bigpond.com (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ja418791 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:50 +1000 Received: from DC-72-188.bpb.bigpond.com ([203.40.72.188]) by mail5.bigpond.com (Claudes-Volcanic-MailRouter V2.9c 9/310865); 11 Dec 2000 12:44:49 Message-ID: <002701c062b8$69974640$bc4828cb@tim> Reply-To: " Tim Kleinig - Thrifty Car Rental" From: " Tim Kleinig - Thrifty Car Rental" To: "Lefkas2000" , Cc: References: <101200345.53126@63.194.85.87> <006901c0630f$414257a0$e2ed68d5@laptop> Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:49:33 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 11 05:48:45 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA16622 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 05:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08272; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08268 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08926 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from raq3.ndmc.net ([63.140.75.133]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08923; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by raq3.ndmc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21396 for suscribe2_site123-list; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:12:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: raq3.ndmc.net: mail set sender to owner-suscribe2@www.allairporttransport.com using -f Received: from chico.rediris.es (chico.rediris.es [130.206.1.3]) by raq3.ndmc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21392 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:11:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200012110311.WAA21392@raq3.ndmc.net> Received: from chico.rediris.es (130.206.1.3) by chico.rediris.es (LSMTP for Solaris v1.1b) with SMTP id <4.000A568F@chico.rediris.es>; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 4:09:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:09:21 +0100 From: "L-Soft list server at LISTSERV.REDIRIS.ES (1.8d)" Subject: Message ("Your message dated Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:48:47...") 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Regards, Dr. Mauro Abate, Roman Homes® http://www.romanhomes.com http://www.romanholidays.com Your carefree Roman rental When in Rome, stay in homes as the Romans do!® ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 11:45 PM Subject: Get listed on Allairporttransport.com > > > Get listed on Allairporttransport.com > > http://www.allairporttransport.com > > ----- > Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) > The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! > > From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 11 13:09:09 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA13711 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10077; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10073 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05816 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from raq3.ndmc.net ([63.140.75.133]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05806; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by raq3.ndmc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA13191 for suscribe2_site123-list; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:59:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: raq3.ndmc.net: mail set sender to owner-suscribe2@www.allairporttransport.com using -f Received: from fep13-svc.tin.it (mta13-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.44]) by raq3.ndmc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA13107; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 04:57:30 -0500 Received: from exodus ([212.216.163.234]) by fep13-svc.tin.it (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20001211095541.HVM1148.fep13-svc.tin.it@exodus>; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:55:41 +0100 Message-ID: <00a501c06358$8176eae0$1556fea9@exodus> From: "Roman Homes - Dr. Mauro Abate" To: , Cc: , References: <101200345.53126@63.194.85.87> Subject: REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST Re: Get listed on Allairporttransport.com Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:54:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by listserv.lbl.gov id JAA10077 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id NAA13711 Please reply with the "reply to" button, or by copying/pasting if you are an AOL user, necessary for us to keep track of the dialogue between us, without being lost to find it among 1000s messages. 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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C06364.FB8A5400-- From owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov Mon Dec 11 16:35:35 2000 Received: from listserv.lbl.gov (listserv.lbl.gov [128.3.7.140]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA13780 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:35:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by listserv.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10901; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:06 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: listserv.lbl.gov: majordom set sender to owner-rmt@listserv.lbl.gov using -f Received: from postal1.lbl.gov (postal1.lbl.gov [128.3.7.82]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10897 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from SpamWall.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postal1.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01867 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by SpamWall.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01864 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: [from mothost.mot.com (mothost.mot.com [129.188.137.101]) by ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox 2.1) with ESMTP id NAA06632 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:44:03 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from homer.arc.corp.mot.com (homer.arc.corp.mot.com [217.1.10.38]) by mothost.mot.com (MOT-mothost 2.0) with ESMTP id NAA25850 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:44:01 -0700 (MST)] Received: from motorola.com ([217.2.31.177]) by homer.arc.corp.mot.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eBBKgRS28241 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:42:28 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3A353B81.DD1F651C@motorola.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:39:29 +1100 From: Roger Kermode Organization: Motorola Australia Research Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmt-list Subject: 49th IETF San Diego RMT Agenda Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4EC31ADEE849A429FEBE71F0" Sender: owner-rmt@lbl.gov Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4EC31ADEE849A429FEBE71F0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8384C1389277A83E861463E7" --------------8384C1389277A83E861463E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here it *finally* is.... Roger RMT Agenda 49th IETF, San Diego ==================== Monday 19:30 - 22:00 Agenda Bashing [Roger] 19:30 - 09:40 10 mins Advertisement of MSEC BOF [Roger] 19:40 - 19:42 3 mins Apology regarding discussion of TFRC in TSVWG [Roger] 19:42 - 19:45 2 mins Updates [Kermode] 19:45 - 19:50 5 mins NORM reorganisation [Brain/Joe] 19:50 - 20:20 30 mins Security Considerations for NORM [Thomas] 20:20 - 20:30 10 mins Layered Coding Transport (was ALC) drafts [Lorenzo/Mike/Luigi] 20:30 - 21:20 50 mins Overview of structural reorganization , , TRACK [Whetten/Chiu] 21:20 - 22:00 40 mins , Tuesday 13:00 - 14:00 ===================== Building Blocks Registry Discussion [Roger] 13:00 - 13:10 10 mins TFRC discussion [Sally Floyd/Jitendra Padhye] 13:10 - 13:30 20 mins GRA/PGM Cattle Prod [Roger/Tony] 13:30 - 13:35 5 mins Newly issued PGM draft - plan? Individual drafts (not in charter) [Michael Garwood] 13:50 - 14:00 10 mins [Ken Calvert] 13:35 - 13:50 15 mins --------------8384C1389277A83E861463E7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here it *finally* is....

Roger
 

RMT Agenda
49th IETF, San Diego
====================

Monday 19:30 - 22:00
  Agenda Bashing [Roger]                    19:30 - 09:40   10 mins
  Advertisement of MSEC BOF [Roger]         19:40 - 19:42    3 mins
  Apology regarding discussion of TFRC in TSVWG
                                 [Roger]    19:42 - 19:45    2 mins

Updates [Kermode]                           19:45 - 19:50    5 mins
  <draft-ietf-rmt-buildingblocks-03.txt>
  <draft-ietf-rmt-author-guidelines-00.txt>

NORM reorganisation [Brain/Joe]
  <draft-ietf-rmt-pi-norm-00.txt>           19:50 - 20:20   30 mins
  Security Considerations for NORM [Thomas] 20:20 - 20:30   10 mins

Layered Coding Transport (was ALC) drafts
  [Lorenzo/Mike/Luigi]                      20:30 - 21:20   50 mins
  Overview of structural reorganization
  <draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lct-00.txt>, <draft-ietf-rmt-info-fec-02.txt>
  <draft-ietf-rmt-bb-fec-02.txt>, <draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lcc-00.txt>

TRACK [Whetten/Chiu]                        21:20 - 22:00   40 mins
  <draft-ietf-rmt-bb-track-00.txt>,
  <draft-ietf-rmt-bb-tree-config-01.txt>
 

Tuesday 13:00 - 14:00
=====================
Building Blocks Registry Discussion [Roger]        13:00 - 13:10  10 mins

TFRC discussion [Sally Floyd/Jitendra Padhye]      13:10 - 13:30  20 mins

GRA/PGM Cattle Prod [Roger/Tony]                   13:30 - 13:35   5 mins
  Newly issued PGM draft - plan?

Individual drafts (not in charter)
  <draft-petrova-pgmmib-00.txt> [Michael Garwood]  13:50 - 14:00  10 mins
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