From dbrungard@att.com Fri Apr 3 12:31:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482553A6862 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:31:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cSWhzWKQodOx for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail120.messagelabs.com (mail120.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.83]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625BC3A67D1 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:31:57 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: dbrungard@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-6.tower-120.messagelabs.com!1238787178!36847874!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 10936 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2009 19:32:58 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-6.tower-120.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 19:32:58 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n33JWvRc000554 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:32:57 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n33JWriH000501 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:32:53 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {B6BD74D2-444F-42EF-984B-08E182317D82} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AC86 AW24 A3pb A4AE Brdg EAXu ELG2 Evrn FS4T FZK5 Fhev F0iV HDT3 Hqde I/j+ JCWP; 1; cgBvAHUAdABpAG4AZwAtAGQAaQBzAGMAdQBzAHMAaQBvAG4AQABpAGUAdABmAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {B6BD74D2-444F-42EF-984B-08E182317D82}; ZABiAHIAdQBuAGcAYQByAGQAQABhAHQAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:32:50 GMT; UgBvAHUAdABpAG4AZwAgAEEAcgBlAGEAIABEAHIAYQBmAHQAIABNAGkAbgB1AHQAZQBzAA== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Routing Area Draft Minutes Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:32:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Routing Area Draft Minutes Thread-Index: Acm0kvoGM9uGvAbzQAO+3KyneQFw0g== From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" To: X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:31:58 -0000 The Routing Area draft minutes are available: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/minutes/rtgarea.htm If you have comments/corrections/you made a comment at the mike which you want captured/if I missed your name, please send to me and I'll update. Deborah From flefauch@cisco.com Tue Apr 14 01:55:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984B33A69AE for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:55:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.489, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id who21A31vHaF for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D3D3A6840 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:55:31 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,183,1238976000"; d="scan'208";a="38209678" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Apr 2009 08:56:41 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n3E8uftt009892; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:56:41 +0200 Received: from xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-332.cisco.com [144.254.231.87]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3E8uf99024208; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:56:41 GMT Received: from xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com ([144.254.231.72]) by xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:56:41 +0200 Received: from ams-flefauch-8717.cisco.com ([10.55.161.200]) by xfe-ams-331.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:56:40 +0200 Message-Id: From: Francois Le Faucheur IMAP To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Routing Area Draft Minutes Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:56:39 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Apr 2009 08:56:40.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED7C2EB0:01C9BCDE] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1298; t=1239699401; x=1240563401; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=flefauch@cisco.com; z=From:=20Francois=20Le=20Faucheur=20IMAP=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20Routing=20Area=20Draft=20Minutes |Sender:=20; bh=nRsoCMiiXc5zV/AUfD2dX5fh2wPeL2qzyQfQ/vt23WU=; b=QWGE4EAy85sA6n6Wt18cQmJj/egEewKDMhSG0xmYPLgzk+lH2dPIMxbouB RPdCeL22KVpGcb6KFON1Lo05jIfA9doC4wcxurCA02S51w/ZJzfsxCZpJ7W4 zfZsOjTnMC; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=flefauch@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Cc: Francois Le Faucheur IMAP , routing-discussion@ietf.org X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:55:32 -0000 Hello Deborah, If it is not too late, could you please include the following corrections: s /Francois - See your point, need to think about it.? / Francois - See your point, but generating ICMP requires punting packet to CPU which is what "dropping" is trying to avoid -need to think about it./ s /Tony - But probably replying to a DOS attack. /Tony - But opens up to DOS attacks/ s /Kireeti - From the point of DOS attacks - can still do. So doesn't help. /Kireeti - From the point of DOS attacks - can still do. So doesn't help. Francois - Without the "flag", DOS attacks are still possible as pointed out in the slides. With the "flag", attacks are prevented. Kireeti - need to think about this/ Thanks Francois On 3 Apr 2009, at 21:32, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > The Routing Area draft minutes are available: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/minutes/rtgarea.htm > > If you have comments/corrections/you made a comment at the mike which > you want captured/if I missed your name, please send to me and I'll > update. > Deborah > _______________________________________________ > routing-discussion mailing list > routing-discussion@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion From Adrian.Farrel@huawei.com Sun Apr 26 09:46:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFBA3A69FB for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:46:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.802, BAYES_20=-0.74, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AdOhr5X1v1ni for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE893A6F21 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KIP002X1VZ74U@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for routing-discussion@ietf.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from your029b8cecfe (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KIP004GTVZ5Y7@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for routing-discussion@ietf.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:47:20 +0100 From: Adrian Farrel Subject: BOF Requests for IETF-75 To: routing-discussion@ietf.org Message-id: <244FB13EAF194A469E8A9B71923C2D65@your029b8cecfe> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:46:13 -0000 Hi, According to the cut-off dates list for the 75th IETF: >> June 8, Monday - Cutoff date for requests to Area Directors to >> schedule BOFs at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT) If you plan to submit a request for a BOF in Stockholm please start the preparation and let us know as soon as possible. RFC 5434 is good reading about how to prepare for a successful BOF session. Adrian and Ross