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From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: FYI: Joint O&M / Routing Area Interim To Discuss Data Center Network Challenges 
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Please be aware.

Thanks,
Adrian

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> Subject: Joint O&M / Routing Area Interim To Discuss Data Center Network
> Challenges
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> The IETF Operations and Routing Areas will hold a two-day joint interim
meeting
> in late January or early February to discuss networking
> challenges encountered in data centers. A doodle poll has been posted at
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> and identify a convenient date. While a venue has not yet been chosen, the
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> Those requesting time on the agenda are asked to submit Internet Drafts in the
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From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: Your thoughts on cross area work
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Hi,

Your thoughts on the attached I-D would be welcome.

Adrian

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> Subject: I-D Action: draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-00.txt
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> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
> 
> 	Title           : Experiences from Cross-Area Work at the IETF
> 	Author(s)       : Jari Arkko
> 	Filename        : draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 10
> 	Date            : 2011-12-20
> 
>    This memo discusses the reasons for IETF work on topics that cross
>    area boundaries.  Such cross-area work presents challenges for the
>    organization of the IETF as well as on how interested parties can
>    participate the work.  The memo also provides some suggestions on
>    managing these challenges.
> 
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> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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