From adrian@olddog.co.uk Fri Jul 13 07:08:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D393C21F8763; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:08:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.387 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.387 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.212, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G0No2Yt40mqA; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9367B21F8618; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 07:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6DE9CNJ017191; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:09:12 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6DE9B7k017183 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:09:12 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , Subject: FW: I-D Action: draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-01.txt Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:09:12 +0100 Message-ID: <014d01cd6101$14d38340$3e7a89c0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1hARBAR/lXuStkTcanBLF3dMxRyw== Content-Language: en-gb X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:08:39 -0000 Folks, I would really appreciate reviews and discussion of this document before it reaches IETF last call. Comment should, I think, be sent to the author and the IETF discussion list. Thanks, Adrian > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > Title : Experiences from Cross-Area Work at the IETF > Author(s) : Jari Arkko > Filename : draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-01.txt > > This memo discusses the reasons for IETF work on topics that cross > area boundaries. Such cross-area work presents challenges for the > organization of the IETF as well as on how interested parties can > participate the work. The memo also provides some suggestions on > managing these challenges. > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-01.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-01.txt From adrian@olddog.co.uk Wed Jul 18 07:28:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC5821F8678; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:28:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.474 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.474 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pX54BFH0qLfw; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FC121F8645; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6IETPrJ028583; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:29:25 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6IETO1W028552 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:29:24 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , Subject: Routing ADs Open Office in Vancouver Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:29:23 +0100 Message-ID: <095701cd64f1$bad99510$308cbf30$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1k8bit1QYf2lxnRmm0SlZQ0ma9yg== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: stbryant@cisco.com X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:28:40 -0000 Hi, Sunday 14.30 to 16.00 in the IESG breakout room. Come and discuss routing issues and concerns with us. Adrian and Stewart From adrian@olddog.co.uk Wed Jul 25 21:36:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DBB21F8526; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:36:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vBc6181QvQ5z; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5F021F851E; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6Q4akOV021211; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:36:46 +0100 Received: from 950129200 ([12.204.99.174]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6Q4ahVb021197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:36:45 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , Subject: Discussion of "Interface to the Routing System" in Vancouver Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:36:43 +0100 Message-ID: <083a01cd6ae8$433535d0$c99fa170$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1q6DscuGtjn//lTYW7u6lVYamECQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 04:36:49 -0000 Hi, We have a slot on the agenda of the Routing Area Open Meeting to discuss a proposal for new work on an "Interface to the Routing System". We want to spend a little time looking at the proposal to see whether it has legs and to gauge the interest. In summary, the idea is to standardise a programmatic interface for full-duplex, streaming state transfer in and out of the Internet's routing system. You can read an I-D on the subject at http://lucidvision.com/draft-ward-irs-framework-00.txt (this will be posted on Monday when the gates re-open) and there will be slides to guide the dicussion. I will also be opening a non-WG mailing list to give a place to discuss this topic. Adrian From adrian@olddog.co.uk Thu Jul 26 17:51:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9CC11E80CA; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:51:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id czjfG3rj5CS3; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F96811E8087; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6R0pGWs024413; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:51:16 +0100 Received: from 950129200 ([206.191.100.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6R0pC46024396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:51:15 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , Subject: FW: New Non-WG Mailing List: irs-discuss -- Interface to The Internet Routing System (IRS) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: <09ef01cd6b91$ed6324a0$c8296de0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1rkecyRUyK3aEzRPGMocugA0rG0Q== Content-Language: en-gb X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 00:51:26 -0000 Pardon the spam, but just letting you know of this new discussion list. Thanks, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat > Sent: 27 July 2012 01:45 > To: IETF Announcement List > Cc: tnadeau@juniper.net; wardd@cisco.com; akatlas@juniper.net; irs- > discuss@ietf.org > Subject: New Non-WG Mailing List: irs-discuss -- Interface to The = Internet Routing > System (IRS) >=20 > A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. >=20 > List address: irs-discuss@ietf.org > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/irs-discuss/ > To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/irs-discuss >=20 > Purpose: This list is for the discussion of an interface to the = routing > system (IRS) that allows applications to rapidly and dynamically = install > routing state into routers, and to learn sufficient information from > routers to make timely, data-based decisions about what routing state = to > specify. Such an interface would facilitate control and diagnosis of = the > routing infrastructure, as well as enabling sophisticated applications > to be built on top of today's routed networks. The IRS is conceived as = a > programmatic, streaming interface for transferring state into and out = of > the Internet's routing system, recognizing that the routing system and = a > router's OS provide useful mechanisms that applications could harness = to > accomplish application-level goals. A fundamental component of the IRS > is a clear data model that defines the semantics of the information = that > can be written and read. >=20 > For additional information, please contact the list administrators. From adrian@olddog.co.uk Sat Jul 28 20:42:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: routing-discussion@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD1921F85DD; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xH68Fcb+nOVE; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0478021F85DA; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6T3gANJ015289; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:42:10 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (static-72-28-92-19.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [72.28.92.19]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q6T3g7hN015275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:42:09 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , Subject: Routing Area Directors Open Office Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:42:07 +0100 Message-ID: <020201cd6d3c$22852970$678f7c50$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1tJOFSlXx4nfWQRJWHFvf9XWznxQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-BeenThere: routing-discussion@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area General mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:42:12 -0000 Hi, Sunday 14.30-16.00 Lord Byron room Adrian