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The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source efforts
related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.  We'd like to hear
your perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are going, learn a bit
more about different Open Source projects are engaging, and just meet you
all and have you meet each other.

The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential Suite
(thanks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool elevators on
the far side of the hotel registration.

Please bring your own coffee :-)

Regards,
Alia, Deborah, & Alvaro

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a to an informal gathering.=C2=A0 We&#39;d like to hear your perspectives o=
n how interactions with the IETF are going, learn a bit more about differen=
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t each other.</div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style=3D"=
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idential Suite (thanks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the po=
ol elevators on the far side of the hotel registration.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Please bring your own coffee :-)</div><div><br></div><div><div style=
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eborah, &amp; Alvaro</div></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></div><=
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There's an informal quagga-dev meetup happening at lunch time Thursday.
Shall we combine?

On 7/18/2016 6:19 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
> The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source
> efforts related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.  We'd
> like to hear your perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are
> going, learn a bit more about different Open Source projects are
> engaging, and just meet you all and have you meet each other.
>
> The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential
> Suite (thanks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool
> elevators on the far side of the hotel registration.
>
> Please bring your own coffee :-)
>
> Regards,
> Alia, Deborah, & Alvaro
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> routing-discussion mailing list
> routing-discussion@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/routing-discussion



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Subject: Re: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 600
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That's good to hear,  but unfortunately,  Thurs lunch isn't an option for
me.

Regards,
Alia

On Jul 18, 2016 11:58 PM, "Lou Berger" <lberger@labn.net> wrote:

> There's an informal quagga-dev meetup happening at lunch time Thursday.
> Shall we combine?
>
> On 7/18/2016 6:19 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
> > The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source
> > efforts related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.  We'd
> > like to hear your perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are
> > going, learn a bit more about different Open Source projects are
> > engaging, and just meet you all and have you meet each other.
> >
> > The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential
> > Suite (thanks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool
> > elevators on the far side of the hotel registration.
> >
> > Please bring your own coffee :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alia, Deborah, & Alvaro
> >
> >
> >
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<p dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s good to hear,=C2=A0 but unfortunately,=C2=A0 Thur=
s lunch isn&#39;t an option for me.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Regards, <br>
Alia </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 18, 2016 1=
1:58 PM, &quot;Lou Berger&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lberger@labn.net">lbe=
rger@labn.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"g=
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eft:1ex">There&#39;s an informal quagga-dev meetup happening at lunch time =
Thursday.<br>
Shall we combine?<br>
<br>
On 7/18/2016 6:19 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:<br>
&gt; The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source<br>
&gt; efforts related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.=C2=A0 We=
&#39;d<br>
&gt; like to hear your perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are<b=
r>
&gt; going, learn a bit more about different Open Source projects are<br>
&gt; engaging, and just meet you all and have you meet each other.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential<br>
&gt; Suite (thanks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool<b=
r>
&gt; elevators on the far side of the hotel registration.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Please bring your own coffee :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; Alia, Deborah, &amp; Alvaro<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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Hi all routing ADs,

I'll join the session and can share the Telefonica Open Source efforts rela=
ted to the routing area (mainly BGP-LS, PCE and TE-Topology implementations=
).

Are you expecting some material to be shown? Some links to the repositories=
? Or just walk up to the mike..

=D3scar

De: routing-discussion <routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:routing-=
discussion-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com<ma=
ilto:leeyoung@huawei.com>>
Fecha: martes, 19 de julio de 2016, 8:05
Para: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com<mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com>=
>, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>, "routing-discu=
ssion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>" <routing-discussion@iet=
f.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room=
 600

Hi Alia,

I will join the meeting to share ONOS ACTN effort.

Thanks.
Young

From: routing-discussion [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org] On Be=
half Of Linda Dunbar
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:08 PM
To: Alia Atlas; routing-discussion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.=
org>
Subject: RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Roo=
m 600

Alia,

I'd love to join the discussion.

Unfortunately, I already setup another meeting Thurs morning, otherwise, I =
can even brief the last month's OPNFV Summit which can trigger some discuss=
ion on what IETF can contribute. Hope there will be another discussion in t=
he future (and send out the meeting information earlier so that we can arra=
nge other discussions around your setup time).

Linda

From: routing-discussion [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org] On Be=
half Of Alia Atlas
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 6:20 PM
To: routing-discussion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>
Subject: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 60=
0

The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source efforts =
related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.  We'd like to hear yo=
ur perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are going, learn a bit mo=
re about different Open Source projects are engaging, and just meet you all=
 and have you meet each other.

The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential Suite (th=
anks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool elevators on th=
e far side of the hotel registration.

Please bring your own coffee :-)

Regards,
Alia, Deborah, & Alvaro


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7;ll join the session and can share the Telefonica Open Source efforts rela=
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>=D3sca=
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 8:05<br>
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a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org">routing-discussion@ietf=
.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Asunto: </span>RE: Informal Routing Open S=
ource get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 600<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi Alia,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I will join the meeting to share ON=
OS ACTN effort.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Young<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Taho=
ma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> routing-discussion [<a href=3D"mailto:routing-disc=
ussion-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linda Dunbar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2016 5:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alia Atlas; <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org">routi=
ng-discussion@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am=
 in Room 600<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Alia,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I&#8217;d love to join the discussi=
on.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Unfortunately, I already setup anot=
her meeting Thurs morning, otherwise, I can even brief the last month&#8217=
;s OPNFV Summit which can trigger some discussion
 on what IETF can contribute. Hope there will be another discussion in the =
future (and send out the meeting information earlier so that we can arrange=
 other discussions around your setup time).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Linda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Taho=
ma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-famil=
y: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> routing-discussion [<a href=3D"mailto:routing-disc=
ussion-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alia Atlas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2016 6:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org">routing-discussio=
n@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in =
Room 600<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">The Routing ADs woul=
d like to invite those involved in Open Source efforts related to the Routi=
ng Area to an informal gathering.&nbsp; We'd like to hear your perspectives=
 on how interactions with the IETF are going,
 learn a bit more about different Open Source projects are engaging, and ju=
st meet you all and have you meet each other.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">The get-together is =
on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential Suite (thanks Juniper!), whic=
h is room 600 and reached from the pool elevators on the far side of the ho=
tel registration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please bring your own coffee :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Alia, Deborah, &amp;=
 Alvaro<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi Oscar,

This is a get-together.  There won't be a presentation or mic.
Depending on how many folks are there, we may have one conversation or many=
.

I'm certainly interested!

Thanks,
Alia

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Oscar Gonz=C3=A1lez de Dios <
oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com> wrote:

> Hi all routing ADs,
>
> I=E2=80=99ll join the session and can share the Telefonica Open Source ef=
forts
> related to the routing area (mainly BGP-LS, PCE and TE-Topology
> implementations).
>
> Are you expecting some material to be shown? Some links to the
> repositories? Or just walk up to the mike..
>
> =C3=93scar
>
> De: routing-discussion <routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of
> Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>
> Fecha: martes, 19 de julio de 2016, 8:05
> Para: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>, Alia Atlas <
> akatlas@gmail.com>, "routing-discussion@ietf.org" <
> routing-discussion@ietf.org>
> Asunto: RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in
> Room 600
>
> Hi Alia,
>
>
>
> I will join the meeting to share ONOS ACTN effort.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Young
>
>
>
> *From:* routing-discussion [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org
> <routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org>] *On Behalf Of *Linda Dunbar
> *Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2016 5:08 PM
> *To:* Alia Atlas; routing-discussion@ietf.org
> *Subject:* RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in
> Room 600
>
>
>
> Alia,
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99d love to join the discussion.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, I already setup another meeting Thurs morning, otherwise, =
I
> can even brief the last month=E2=80=99s OPNFV Summit which can trigger so=
me
> discussion on what IETF can contribute. Hope there will be another
> discussion in the future (and send out the meeting information earlier so
> that we can arrange other discussions around your setup time).
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> *From:* routing-discussion [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org
> <routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org>] *On Behalf Of *Alia Atlas
> *Sent:* Monday, July 18, 2016 6:20 PM
> *To:* routing-discussion@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in
> Room 600
>
>
>
> The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source effort=
s
> related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.  We'd like to hear
> your perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are going, learn a bi=
t
> more about different Open Source projects are engaging, and just meet you
> all and have you meet each other.
>
>
>
> The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential Suite
> (thanks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool elevators =
on
> the far side of the hotel registration.
>
>
>
> Please bring your own coffee :-)
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alia, Deborah, & Alvaro
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Oscar,<div><br></div><div>This is a get-together.=C2=A0=
 There won&#39;t be a presentation or mic.</div><div>Depending on how many =
folks are there, we may have one conversation or many.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I&#39;m certainly interested!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><d=
iv>Alia</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Oscar Gonz=C3=A1lez de Dios <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com" target=
=3D"_blank">oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div>Hi all routing ADs,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>I=E2=80=99ll join the sess=
ion and can share the Telefonica Open Source efforts related to the routing=
 area (mainly BGP-LS, PCE and TE-Topology implementations).=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Are you expecting some mat=
erial to be shown? Some links to the repositories? Or just walk up to the m=
ike..=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>=C3=93scar</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:blac=
k;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADD=
ING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:me=
dium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">De: </span>routing-discussion &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routing-d=
iscussion-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Leeyoung &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:leeyoung@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">leeyoung@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Fecha: </span>martes, 19 de julio de 2016,=
 8:05<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Para: </span>Linda Dunbar &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">linda.dunbar@huawei.com</a=
>&gt;, Alia Atlas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">akatlas@gmail.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@iet=
f.org" target=3D"_blank">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routi=
ng-discussion@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Asunto: </span>RE: Informal Routing Open S=
ource get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 600<br>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>


<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Alia,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I will join the meeting to share ONOS ACTN e=
ffort.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Young<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> routing-discussion [<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion-bou=
nces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org=
</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linda Dunbar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2016 5:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alia Atlas; <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" targe=
t=3D"_blank">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am=
 in Room 600<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alia,
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I=E2=80=99d love to join the discussion.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Unfortunately, I already setup another meeti=
ng Thurs morning, otherwise, I can even brief the last month=E2=80=99s OPNF=
V Summit which can trigger some discussion
 on what IETF can contribute. Hope there will be another discussion in the =
future (and send out the meeting information earlier so that we can arrange=
 other discussions around your setup time).
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Linda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> routing-discussion [<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion-bou=
nces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org=
</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alia Atlas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2016 6:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>routing-discussion@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in =
Room 600<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">The Routing ADs woul=
d like to invite those involved in Open Source efforts related to the Routi=
ng Area to an informal gathering.=C2=A0 We&#39;d like to hear your perspect=
ives on how interactions with the IETF are going,
 learn a bit more about different Open Source projects are engaging, and ju=
st meet you all and have you meet each other.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">The get-together is =
on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential Suite (thanks Juniper!), whic=
h is room 600 and reached from the pool elevators on the far side of the ho=
tel registration.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please bring your own coffee :-)<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Regards,<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">Alia, Deborah, &amp;=
 Alvaro<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div></div></span><br>
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Hi Alia,

Thanks for the clarification!!

See u on Thursday!

=D3scar

De: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>
Fecha: martes, 19 de julio de 2016, 17:44
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:os=
car.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>
CC: "routing-discussion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>" <rout=
ing-discussion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>>
Asunto: Re: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room=
 600

Hi Oscar,

This is a get-together.  There won't be a presentation or mic.
Depending on how many folks are there, we may have one conversation or many=
.

I'm certainly interested!

Thanks,
Alia

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Oscar Gonz=E1lez de Dios <oscar.gonzalezd=
edios@telefonica.com<mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>> wrote:
Hi all routing ADs,

I'll join the session and can share the Telefonica Open Source efforts rela=
ted to the routing area (mainly BGP-LS, PCE and TE-Topology implementations=
).

Are you expecting some material to be shown? Some links to the repositories=
? Or just walk up to the mike..

=D3scar

De: routing-discussion <routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:routing-=
discussion-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com<ma=
ilto:leeyoung@huawei.com>>
Fecha: martes, 19 de julio de 2016, 8:05
Para: Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com<mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com>=
>, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>, "routing-discu=
ssion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>" <routing-discussion@iet=
f.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>>
Asunto: RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room=
 600

Hi Alia,

I will join the meeting to share ONOS ACTN effort.

Thanks.
Young

From: routing-discussion [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org] On Be=
half Of Linda Dunbar
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:08 PM
To: Alia Atlas; routing-discussion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.=
org>
Subject: RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Roo=
m 600

Alia,

I'd love to join the discussion.

Unfortunately, I already setup another meeting Thurs morning, otherwise, I =
can even brief the last month's OPNFV Summit which can trigger some discuss=
ion on what IETF can contribute. Hope there will be another discussion in t=
he future (and send out the meeting information earlier so that we can arra=
nge other discussions around your setup time).

Linda

From: routing-discussion [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org] On Be=
half Of Alia Atlas
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 6:20 PM
To: routing-discussion@ietf.org<mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org>
Subject: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 60=
0

The Routing ADs would like to invite those involved in Open Source efforts =
related to the Routing Area to an informal gathering.  We'd like to hear yo=
ur perspectives on how interactions with the IETF are going, learn a bit mo=
re about different Open Source projects are engaging, and just meet you all=
 and have you meet each other.

The get-together is on Thursday from 9am-10am in the Presidential Suite (th=
anks Juniper!), which is room 600 and reached from the pool elevators on th=
e far side of the hotel registration.

Please bring your own coffee :-)

Regards,
Alia, Deborah, & Alvaro


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<div>Hi Alia,</div>
<div><br>
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<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>Thanks=
 for the clarification!!&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>See u =
on Thursday!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"></span>=D3sca=
r&nbsp;</div>
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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">De: </span>Alia Atlas &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:akatlas@gmail.com">akatlas@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Fecha: </span>martes, 19 de julio de 2016,=
 17:44<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Para: </span>Oscar Gonzalez de Dios &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com">oscar.gonzalezdedios@t=
elefonica.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">CC: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:routing=
-discussion@ietf.org">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Asunto: </span>Re: Informal Routing Open S=
ource get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 600<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Oscar,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is a get-together.&nbsp; There won't be a presentation or mic.</d=
iv>
<div>Depending on how many folks are there, we may have one conversation or=
 many.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm certainly interested!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Alia</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Oscar Gonz=E1l=
ez de Dios
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com=
" target=3D"_blank">oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div>Hi all routing ADs,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>I&#8217;ll join the sessio=
n and can share the Telefonica Open Source efforts related to the routing a=
rea (mainly BGP-LS, PCE and TE-Topology implementations).&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>Are you expecting some mat=
erial to be shown? Some links to the repositories? Or just walk up to the m=
ike..&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"></span>=D3scar</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:blac=
k;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADD=
ING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:me=
dium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">De: </span>routing-discussion &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routing-d=
iscussion-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Leeyoung &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:leeyoung@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">leeyoung@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Fecha: </span>martes, 19 de julio de 2016,=
 8:05<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Para: </span>Linda Dunbar &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">linda.dunbar@huawei.com</a=
>&gt;, Alia Atlas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">akatlas@gmail.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@iet=
f.org" target=3D"_blank">routing-discussion@ietf.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routi=
ng-discussion@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Asunto: </span>RE: Informal Routing Open S=
ource get-together: Thurs 9-10am in Room 600<br>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Alia,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I will join the meeting to share ONOS ACTN e=
ffort.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Young<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> routing-discussion [<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion-bou=
nces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org=
</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Linda Dunbar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2016 5:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alia Atlas; <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" targe=
t=3D"_blank">
routing-discussion@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am=
 in Room 600<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Alia,
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I&#8217;d love to join the discussion.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Unfortunately, I already setup another meeti=
ng Thurs morning, otherwise, I can even brief the last month&#8217;s OPNFV =
Summit which can trigger some discussion on
 what IETF can contribute. Hope there will be another discussion in the fut=
ure (and send out the meeting information earlier so that we can arrange ot=
her discussions around your setup time).
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Linda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> routing-discussion [<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion-bou=
nces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org=
</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alia Atlas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 18, 2016 6:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>routing-discussion@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Informal Routing Open Source get-together: Thurs 9-10am in =
Room 600<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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On Dec 16, 2015, I chartered an Overlay OAM Design Team (
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/routing-discussion/ZQYpinvWWdjdLrC-gAtnqat_vSU
) to investigate solutions for common OAM for multiple overlays and
encapsulations, with a focus on the work from NVO3, SFC, and BIER.

The design team has produced a number of different drafts about
possibilities in this space.

    draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-02
    draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-01
    draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-header-00
    draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-demand-cc-cv-00

There are still open questions around cross-layer correlations and other
innovations in OAM.
There is a need to more contributions, review and discussion.
In addition, there is now sufficient interest that I believe it is better
to close the design team and open up its mailing list to participation.  As
of today, the DT is closed.

To join the non-WG mailing list that the DT has previously used, please use:

       https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-ooam-d

tI have and will be continuing to active discuss how and where related work
should be managed.

I would like to thank the Design Team:
    Greg Mirsky (DT lead)
    Ignas Bagdonas
    Erik Nordmark
    Carlos Pignataro
    Mach Chen
   Santosh Pallagatti
   Deepak Kumarde
   David Mozes
   Nagendra Kumar Nainar

I would particularly like to thank Greg Mirsky who has lead the DT.
Thank you also to all those who have actively participated, provided
reviews and thoughts.

Thank you,
Alia

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iv id=3D":2" class=3D"" style=3D"min-height:220px"><div class=3D""><div cla=
ss=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 16, 2015, I chartered an Overlay OAM Design =
Team (<a href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/routing-discussion/Z=
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ons, review and discussion. =C2=A0<br>In addition, there is now sufficient =
interest that I believe it is better to close the design team and open up i=
ts mailing list to participation.=C2=A0 As of today, the DT is closed.<br><=
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use:<br><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mail=
man/listinfo/rtg-ooam-d">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-ooam-d</=
a></div><div class=3D""><br></div><div class=3D"">tI have and will be conti=
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The draft minutes for the RTGAREA meeting at IETF 96 are now available.  Pl=
ease let me know if you have any comments.
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-rtgarea

Best regards
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Jon,

Thank you very much for the minutes - and for all the work you do with the
Routing Directorate.
It makes a really big difference to be able to have more good reviews on
documents with such ease.

Alia

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Jonathan Hardwick <
Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

> The draft minutes for the RTGAREA meeting at IETF 96 are now available.
> Please let me know if you have any comments.
>
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-rtgarea
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>
>
> Best regards
>
> Jon
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jon,<div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for the minute=
s - and for all the work you do with the Routing Directorate.</div><div>It =
makes a really big difference to be able to have more good reviews on docum=
ents with such ease.</div><div><br></div><div>Alia</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:04 A=
M, Jonathan Hardwick <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardw=
ick@metaswitch.com" target=3D"_blank">Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
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Obviously (as I wasn't present) I'm not commenting on the minutes reflectin=
g what was said. But to the questions asked about MANET:

> George Swallow: Building large packets by putting small packets together;=
 large
>                packets more likely to get corrputed; how about sending sm=
aller
>              packets?
> Justin: Smaller packets will get through more, which is not always good a=
s you
>       don't want to find neighbours that you have a poor link to.

I think a more important point is that packets have overheads (headers for =
RFC 5444, UDP, IP, MAC and also media access overheads). So fewer packets c=
an be a significant win.

> Chris Bowers: Why is the 2-hop neighbour important?
> Justin: Many of the algorithms require you to know your 2-hop neighbours.
> Chris: So unlike IS-IS, you need to be careful to constraing flooding? (Y=
es)
> Stan: RFC 5820 uses a 2-hop neighbourhood for flooding in OSPFv3.

RFC 3626 (OLSR) predates this in using two hop information to define MPRs (=
used for improved flooding and topology reduction), it's where some ideas i=
n the experimental OSPF wireless extensions came from. And of course now we=
 have OLSRv2 (RFC 7181) at Proposed Standard.

> Jehan Tremback: Does DLEP replace Hello in OLSR protocols?
> Justin: Not completely as the Hello messages require TLVs.

NHDP (RFC 6130), the owner of the HELLO messages in the OLSRv2 family, perm=
its using any other sources of information (DLEP could be one) to augment H=
ELLO messages (subject to certain constraints). But there are several thing=
s in HELLO messages that DLEP doesn't supply to the router - in particular,=
 but not only, things added by OLSRv2 (MPRs, knowledge of OLSRv2 support us=
ing its metrics). I'm also not sure DLEP would provide the multiple interfa=
ce information properly.

But even if DLEP did report such things radio to router, DLEP is entirely a=
bout that interface. DLEP defines no over the air signalling, which is what=
 HELLO messages provide - to establish connectivity and exchange informatio=
n. To use DLEP to provide the information that routers need to run NHDP/OLS=
Rv2, you'd need to define an over the air signalling between radios. Or in =
other words, re-invent NHDP.

Rather, what might make sense is that if you want some over the air signall=
ing for DLEP gather some of its information, you could add it to HELLO mess=
ages if running NHDP. (Not quite ideal, as HELLO messages are designed to r=
un router to router, not radio to radio. And off course you may well not be=
 running NHDP, in which case you would need another solution.)

-- =

Christopher Dearlove
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BAE Systems Applied Intelligence Laboratories
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Following an impromptu side-meeting at IETF 96 between the Routing ADs
and those participating in Open Source in the Routing Area of the IETF, we
agreed to create a mailing list to discuss and share information about Open
Source projects and interactions with the IETF Routing Area.

That open mailing list has now been created.  It is rtg-open-source@ietf.org
.
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-open-source
 is the mailman interface. I'd like to thank David Lampartner and Hariharan
Ananthakrishnan for agreeing to be list administrators.

In addition, there is now a wiki space for useful information (
https://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgOpenSrcCoord ) off of the
Routing Area wiki ( https://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki ).  I am
happy
for the wiki to self-organize - so please go use it!   Otherwise, we may
look
for someone to put in what might be useful structure.

I hope that these will aid the Open Source community with improved
communications
and give us all some ideas of how to facilitate interactions so the Internet
can work better.

Thanks,
Alia

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e@ietf.org">rtg-open-source@ietf.org</a>.</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.=
ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-open-source">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/lis=
tinfo/rtg-open-source</a>=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0is the mailman interface. I=
&#39;d like to thank David Lampartner and Hariharan=C2=A0</div><div>Anantha=
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n addition, there is now a wiki space for useful information (=C2=A0<a href=
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/trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgOpenSrcCoord</a> ) off of the=C2=
=A0</div></div><div>Routing Area wiki (=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://trac.tools.=
ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki">https://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki=
</a> ).=C2=A0 I am happy</div><div>for the wiki to self-organize - so pleas=
e go use it! =C2=A0 Otherwise, we may look</div><div>for someone to put in =
what might be useful structure.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope that these =
will aid the Open Source community with improved communications</div><div>a=
nd give us all some ideas of how to facilitate interactions so the Internet=
</div><div>can work better.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia=
</div></div>

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