From jmh@joelhalpern.com Sun Apr 1 03:39:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D2621F8697 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I9STsgymM82k for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morbo.mail.tigertech.net (morbo.mail.tigertech.net [67.131.251.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A8821F868C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) by morbo.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E29558259 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8811C08C3; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:39:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from [10.216.7.129] (unknown [93.158.45.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0DCDB1C0685; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 03:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F783074.9090302@joelhalpern.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:39:48 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Li References: <05D4E35B-44E3-47AE-893E-CD4D27C3547B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IRTF Routing RG , RJ Atkinson Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:39:47 -0000 I have reviewed the changes to these documents. All of my concerns have been addressed. Thank you very much, Joel M. Halpern PS: I presume there is a plan for removing the remaining editors notes in draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts? On 3/27/2012 11:51 AM, Tony Li wrote: > > Hi all, > > The ILNP drafts now seem to be available. > > Could the folks who have outstanding comments on these drafts please either provide further comments or approval? > > By my records that would be: > Wes George > Steven Blake > Joel Halpern > > We will not be advancing the documents until we receive approvals from all of these folks. > > Thanks, > Tony > > > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:07 PM, RJ Atkinson wrote: > >> IRTF RG folks, >> >> Now that the I-D submission tools are re-opened, >> I have just uploaded revisions of the ILNP I-D set: >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-01.txt >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-01.txt >> >> Saleem and I believe that we have addressed all of >> the received comments (both on-list and private) >> in these revised I-Ds. >> >> Yours, >> >> Ran Atkinson >> >> PS: The online IETF Tools web server includes a tool for >> providing differences between two files in various >> formats at this URL: >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rrg mailing list >> rrg@irtf.org >> http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg > > _______________________________________________ > rrg mailing list > rrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg > From wesley.george@twcable.com Sun Apr 1 05:12:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDC221F895A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 05:12:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.264 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.264 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.600, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f+Ep9a6JSZRw for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 05:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C6A21F8960 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 05:12:39 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.13 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,353,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="345511939" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB04.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.13]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 01 Apr 2012 08:12:26 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.27]) by PRVPEXHUB04.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.13]) with mapi; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:12:32 -0400 From: "George, Wes" To: "Joel M. Halpern" , Tony Li Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 08:12:35 -0400 Thread-Topic: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted Thread-Index: Ac0P88WXWy+/ef5iR62eTrjA3H/NmgADOcxQ Message-ID: References: <05D4E35B-44E3-47AE-893E-CD4D27C3547B@gmail.com> <4F783074.9090302@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <4F783074.9090302@joelhalpern.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IRTF Routing RG , RJ Atkinson Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:12:40 -0000 On my list for this week Thanks, Wes > -----Original Message----- > From: rrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:rrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Joe= l M. > Halpern > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:40 AM > To: Tony Li > Cc: IRTF Routing RG; RJ Atkinson > Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted > > I have reviewed the changes to these documents. All of my concerns have > been addressed. > Thank you very much, > Joel M. Halpern > > PS: I presume there is a plan for removing the remaining editors notes > in draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts? > > On 3/27/2012 11:51 AM, Tony Li wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The ILNP drafts now seem to be available. > > > > Could the folks who have outstanding comments on these drafts please ei= ther > provide further comments or approval? > > > > By my records that would be: > > Wes George > > Steven Blake > > Joel Halpern > > > > We will not be advancing the documents until we receive approvals from = all > of these folks. > > > > Thanks, > > Tony > > > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:07 PM, RJ Atkinson wrote: > > > >> IRTF RG folks, > >> > >> Now that the I-D submission tools are re-opened, > >> I have just uploaded revisions of the ILNP I-D set: > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-01.txt > >> draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-01.txt > >> > >> Saleem and I believe that we have addressed all of > >> the received comments (both on-list and private) > >> in these revised I-Ds. > >> > >> Yours, > >> > >> Ran Atkinson > >> > >> PS: The online IETF Tools web server includes a tool for > >> providing differences between two files in various > >> formats at this URL: > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> rrg mailing list > >> rrg@irtf.org > >> http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rrg mailing list > > rrg@irtf.org > > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg > > > _______________________________________________ > rrg mailing list > rrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. 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From bortzmeyer@nic.fr Mon Apr 2 01:18:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA5921F8868 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:18:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NgdcRV5RcwmR for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.nic.fr (mx5.nic.fr [192.134.4.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A87221F8866 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 01:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id CFD35300654; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mx5.nic.fr (Postfix, from userid 1137) id 8F70A30065D; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from relay1.nic.fr (relay1.nic.fr [IPv6:2001:67c:2218:9::4:162]) by mx5.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A80300654; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [IPv6:2001:67c:2219:8::6:69]) by relay1.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9744C0006; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:17:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:17:44 +0200 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Tony Li Message-ID: <20120402081744.GA28875@nic.fr> References: <05D4E35B-44E3-47AE-893E-CD4D27C3547B@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid X-Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-686-pae i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000023, version=1.2.2 X-PMX-Version: 6.0.0.2142326, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2012.4.2.80023 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report=' MULTIPLE_RCPTS 0.1, HTML_00_01 0.05, HTML_00_10 0.05, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_600_699 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, __ANY_URI 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CD 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __URI_NO_PATH 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0, __URI_NS , __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: IRTF Routing RG , RJ Atkinson Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 08:18:10 -0000 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:51:31AM -0700, Tony Li wrote a message of 57 lines which said: > Could the folks who have outstanding comments on these drafts please > either provide further comments or approval? > > By my records that would be: I'm not in the list :-) but, anyway, here is my opinion: * my comment about header format has been addressed and solved, * my comment about caches and ILCC has been addressed. I would not say "solved" since the issue is complicated. I think that the document can be published as-is and the question about ILCC use and implementation revised later, with practical experience. From slblake@petri-meat.com Mon Apr 2 21:27:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F86C21F8732 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:27:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3h5PuxQ7HbGA for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E58821F8731 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 21:27:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=petri-meat.com; h=Received:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=wDHFY/zPNzv5R0ngkLwYeoCa0tvgCKvY3bXqPgJ5YjDX3aa0NZyO87trRCKveE/7AmgbpvVEt5/mA0ttgVdfuFTMkk7sqbkgZtoq7nINnUiRPXB8DXtvlrxNwPyyfThz; Received: from cpe-071-065-228-004.nc.res.rr.com ([71.65.228.4]) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SEvLP-0006vN-Ec; Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:27:47 -0400 From: Steven Blake To: Tony Li Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 00:27:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: <05D4E35B-44E3-47AE-893E-CD4D27C3547B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1333427268.15409.5.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - irtf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Cc: IRTF Routing RG , RJ Atkinson Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:27:51 -0000 On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 08:51 -0700, Tony Li wrote: > Hi all, > > The ILNP drafts now seem to be available. > > Could the folks who have outstanding comments on these drafts please either provide further comments or approval? > > By my records that would be: > Wes George > Steven Blake > Joel Halpern > > We will not be advancing the documents until we receive approvals from all of these folks. I reviewed the latest versions of -eng, -icmpv6, -noncev6, and -dns. All of my prior comments were addressed. I noticed a few minor issues which I will report to the authors privately. I will try to review the latest revs of -arch and -adv by the end of the week. Regards, // Steve From wesley.george@twcable.com Tue Apr 3 13:44:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA9711E80F9 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e3J-UOGgn+d1 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150C311E809D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.13 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,364,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="346623679" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB04.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.13]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 03 Apr 2012 16:44:33 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.27]) by PRVPEXHUB04.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.13]) with mapi; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:44:46 -0400 From: "George, Wes" To: Tony Li , RJ Atkinson , IRTF Routing RG Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:44:46 -0400 Thread-Topic: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted Thread-Index: Ac0MMY+AZP/a1io+RoGtWptXTv03OAFnhHzg Message-ID: References: <05D4E35B-44E3-47AE-893E-CD4D27C3547B@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 20:44:50 -0000 My concerns have been addressed. This is a very complete set of documents, = thanks for all of the time and effort that you've expended in getting this = documented to this level. Thanks, Wes > -----Original Message----- > From: rrg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:rrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Ton= y Li > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:52 AM > To: RJ Atkinson; IRTF Routing RG > Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted > > > Hi all, > > The ILNP drafts now seem to be available. > > Could the folks who have outstanding comments on these drafts please eith= er > provide further comments or approval? > > By my records that would be: > Wes George > Steven Blake > Joel Halpern > > We will not be advancing the documents until we receive approvals from al= l of > these folks. > > Thanks, > Tony > > > > On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:07 PM, RJ Atkinson wrote: > > > IRTF RG folks, > > > > Now that the I-D submission tools are re-opened, > > I have just uploaded revisions of the ILNP I-D set: > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-01.txt > > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-01.txt > > > > Saleem and I believe that we have addressed all of > > the received comments (both on-list and private) > > in these revised I-Ds. > > > > Yours, > > > > Ran Atkinson > > > > PS: The online IETF Tools web server includes a tool for > > providing differences between two files in various > > formats at this URL: > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rrg mailing list > > rrg@irtf.org > > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg > > _______________________________________________ > rrg mailing list > rrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/rrg This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. 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From tony.li@tony.li Tue Apr 3 23:58:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B5021F8663 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cj8bCyzZ+syQ for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE8F21F865E for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tix11i0011vN32cA8iyNRR; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:58:22 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn5-343.cisco.com ([128.107.239.233]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tiyC1i00E52qHCY8iiyGnL; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:58:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Tony Li In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 23:58:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4EB7C1DF-F33C-44BB-B06F-E80CB6B29003@tony.li> References: <05D4E35B-44E3-47AE-893E-CD4D27C3547B@gmail.com> To: IRTF Routing RG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Subject: Re: [rrg] Revised ILNP I-Ds posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:58:23 -0000 Hi all, We have now received approvals from all three folks who had outstanding = comments: Wes George Steven Blake Joel Halpern Thank you very much guys. Now, based on the consensus that concluded = 1/28/2012, we will proceed with the process for this document set. The next step is to return to the IRSG for further review. Regards, Tony From pfrejborg@gmail.com Thu Apr 5 02:00:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22C621F8715 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:00:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O-6TLsCG7vDY for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBAC21F8711 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wern13 with SMTP id n13so914884wer.13 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:00:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Smsybcg8plpQVRMeVEb6u2bk41e9uJjcntvpbs3nFkg=; b=0rR85kn+kFGd/bGnaTUW6miJyormk4MMnmVa6kUWZz67cvEjaov3ZGoiwTZc7OLIlY IcxpG+5uvA61/HqzGYgGGSuk6NKNU2xgfW6FD8zQg1Nd/i8MmWCL6NevqWCwVWkkhOLW s5+T8g1usyLkHEnpcbDueoKkwflHIt9Nz8qRwXfCShDFiKEcne1Is7SqinmGbyHEEAtj yv6uBvSIRVfECjDB+umbTtYLuOKtS66cYsHHgZ53zQZMGecIc3+rxoHMbaoXkTaW2nzn NFHrZPgtCtMjk14LZOUvUzHWCtytHtt1++gmMMjTahUshX42MCOku2zv+S8TZYGrBznx JTLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.135.102 with SMTP id t80mr1153231wei.59.1333616427328; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 02:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.168.12 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 02:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:00:27 +0300 Message-ID: From: Patrick Frejborg To: RRG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [rrg] Inter-working of RRG proposals? X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:00:30 -0000 Hi all, I have some thoughts that have bothered me for a longer time and I would like to share my thoughts with this group. Since the ILNP document are on their way to the review processes it might be an appropriate time to put the thoughts on the table - another trigger is the comment =93Perhaps it's time to build LISP to ILNP inter-working and roll=94, http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg72738.html on the IETF discussion list. I believe it is doable. But first things first: Tony, many thanks for guiding me through the review processes! Without your advices and patience I believe that my I-D never would have reached RFC experimental status. Thank you, I really appreciate your effort! Here goes my brain dump: Somewhere during the IRSG/IESG review process I stumbled on this paper: ftp://ftp.cs.princeton.edu/techreports/2010/885.pdf Read it with a conceptual view mindset; the technical details can be build with tools from the RRG proposals (I discovered MPTCP on the RRG, thus I consider it as part of the RRG =93family=94). SCAFFOLD introduces a service identifier, that is, a session is established from an endpoint to a service by a =93late binding=94=96 the session is not directly established from an endpoint to another endpoint, which we have proposed. Accessing endpoint-to-endpoint is so retro at the moment; have a look on users=92 behavior when you are e.g. traveling by public transportation =96 this behavior, i.e. accessing social media services, blogs, communication services etc. are architectural requirements today that didn=92t exist 15-20 years ago. These requirements should be addressed somehow. SCAFFOLD requires a transport protocol capable to move the session from one resource to another resource in the data center =96 no need to move the locator of the resource around in the data center, a service identifier and a session identifier is used instead (no need for large L2 nightmares in the DC). MPTCP is suitable for that. If other transport protocols are used, ILNP can provide mobility services between endpoints. MPTCP have restrictions due the size of the TCP option, should MPTCP and ILNP co-operate so that e.g. nonce should handle by ILNP when MPTCP move the session from one endpoint to another? In order to apply =93late binding=94 a hierarchical addressing (locator) scheme is needed. That can be found in hIPv4 (RFC 6306) but it describes only a scheme for IPv4; the very same can be designed for IPv6. The trick here is to create a locator scheme that has n times larger address space than the data plane. Two times larger address space should be enough for planet Tellus. And then we expose these two-level locators to the endpoints so that they have alternative paths to transport their data. It is like the road system; the drivers are provided a road map so they can chose the most suitable path and avoid road blocks/congestion points. The current architecture is like the railroad system =96 the transport protocol of the endpoints has no alternatives, it just gets on-board the train and hopes that railroad operator do a proper job. And another bonus by having hierarchical locators is a more scalable routing system in the DFZ. How to get there? A CES solution is needed (LISP, IRON, Ivip), it will definitely speed up the transition. But there are some challenges with cache management and creating a tight dependency between control and data plane at the xTRs could create other issues. You might get around these challenges if e.g. LISP (which is the =93root cause=94 behind hIPv4) starts to integrate the other proposals discussed above. E.g. the MPTCP WG is proposing a MPTCP proxy solution =96 is it possible to integrate that with an ITR (and using hierarchical locator scheme with a service identifier or a host identifier aka ILNP) to get around ETR scaling issues at a content site by placing MPTCP proxies in front of the servers? It is not a perfect solution; for sure there will be scaling issues at the ITR, depending on how close it is located to the initiators. But it is a very interesting transition mechanism. I hope people can see the contours of a new architecture (for sure, some will not prefer to see it all due to layer 10; religion). There are unknown areas that needs to be explored but interesting use cases can be found, that better addresses mobility and traffic engineering between endpoints as well as accessing cloud based services than the current architecture does. The major building blocks can be found at RRG. Happy Eastern! Patrick From tli@cisco.com Fri Apr 6 15:44:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BAE11E80AD for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TPpKSU+NrJlf for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550E211E80AB for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:44:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=tli@cisco.com; l=6017; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1333752243; x=1334961843; h=mime-version:subject:from:date:cc: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Ot7UIGIvs2UIC/exr1jLzQyBD9pPPXlpRJ43Qz31vOU=; b=L9RYul5G3Cn1cP6xba2L2UxscGVwgMJucItQsyzAWS9YrywiCnkZxwWB osBWB+LgEJWJ1OQ6YtxvelyhN5TOASq4jtc09/VQFTXaHrHLIV6o9lndL zO0Unh6VDb8+S3ZDBHd+cUvxKQcef0tIcpO54uHZ3gmMPE6X41T4Gic1y c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai8GAGRwf0+rRDoH/2dsb2JhbABEDgiDCrYEgQeCCQEBAQMBEgEURA4FCxwBAgECAS5JBAIIBgESCRmHZwQMmlyfTI9tYwSIWo0ShXKFSoMRgWmCMFc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,383,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="39439609" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2012 22:44:03 +0000 Received: from [10.155.34.251] ([10.155.34.251]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q36Mi23c021771; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:44:02 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Tony Li Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:44:02 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4F7F6B14.4050102@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> To: Ran Atkinson , Saleem Bhatti X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: rrg@irtf.org, "Thomas C. Schmidt" Subject: [rrg] Fwd: [irsg] IRSG Poll Request: ILNP document suite X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:44:04 -0000 Hi Ran & Saleem, We've started soliciting other IRSG members to review and comment on the = current documents. Thomas Schmidt has been very kind to very quickly = review the documents and has provided the following comments. AFAIK, it's perfectly kosher to have IANA requests in IRTF experimental = track RFCs. Could you please respond to Thomas' other comments? Thanks, Tony Begin forwarded message: > From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" > Subject: Re: [irsg] IRSG Poll Request: ILNP document suite > Date: April 6, 2012 3:15:48 PM PDT > To: Tony Li > Cc: Internet Research Steering Group >=20 > Dear Tony, >=20 > having thoroughly reviewed earlier versions of the documents, I = promised to react quickly on the update - and here I am. >=20 > The documents have undergone a significant reorganization and rewrite = (including the number and dedication of the documents) and are much = clearer and more precise now. The ~180 pages are still very verbose and = partly redundant, but this should be the freedom of authors ;). >=20 > There are several requests to the IANA registry on the proposed IRTF = experimental track, and I'm not sure about the legitimacy of this. >=20 > The technical issues I head earlier seem cleared except for the = multicast addressing case. >=20 > As raised in my previous review, there is some misleading text w.r.t. = multicast addresses and compatibility to IPv6. The authors have now = specified to use the MAC-Layer group bit in the EUI-64 format for = multicast address indication. I don't object doing so, but such = addresses will not be compatible to the IPv6 multicast address format. >=20 > This is in contradiction to repeated statements about full = compatibility to IPv6: >=20 > Two striking examples (out of very many): >=20 > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-01, Sect. 8: >=20 > "ILNPv6 is fully backwards compatible with existing IPv6. No > router software or silicon changes are necessary to support the > proposed enhancements." >=20 > draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng, Sect. 9: >=20 > " ILNP is designed to be deployed on existing infrastructure. No > new infrastructure is required to run ILNP as it will be > implemented as a software upgrade impacting only end-to-end > protocols. Existing routing protocols can be re-used: no new > routing protocols are required. " >=20 > For the sake of precision, I would suggest to explicitly confine these = compatibility statements to unicast. >=20 > Aside from this, I vote 'Ready to publish'. >=20 > There are a number of minor nits: >=20 > * RFC 3775 -> RFC 6275 > * References [8+8], [GSE], [IEEE-EUI], [SRC 84] are incomplete in = draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-01 > * Throughout the documents, hyperreferences tend to point incorrectly > * Some number of typos and editorial stuff the RFC-Editor will most = likely fix. >=20 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Thomas >=20 > On 04.04.2012 09:24, Tony Li wrote: >>=20 >> Dear IRSG Members, >>=20 >> The IRSG review of the ILNP document set was completed long ago, but = our RFC process requires that at least two other IRSG members vote that = the documents are "ready to publish". We have one vote already and have = been seeking another vote for quite some time. >>=20 >> In order to meet with IRSG approval, the document authors have = undertaken a significant rewrite of the document set. The intent of = this rewrite has been to further reorganize, rationalize, fill in = missing detail and generally clarify the architecture. Because of the = degree of change, the entire document set has been again reviewed by the = RRG, and, after further clarifications, it is the consensus of the RG = that these documents are ready to proceed. >>=20 >> Therefore, I am looking for a volunteer to review the document set = and provide a poll response. Per the RFC process, the possible poll = responses are: >>=20 >> o 'Ready to publish' -- requires a thorough read and reasonably >> detailed review >>=20 >> o 'Not ready to publish' -- requires a thorough read, reasonably >> detailed review, and actionable comments. >>=20 >> o 'No objection' -- I don't object if this document goes forward; >> I've read the document (perhaps quickly); I have some small >> comments which are not show stoppers; I don't have great >> expertise in the area. >>=20 >> o 'Request more time to review' -- a commitment to provide a >> thorough review in a specified period of time. >>=20 >> The documents are: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arp-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-01.txt >> = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-01.txt >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-01.txt >>=20 >> If you are willing to volunteer to help with this process, please = contact me. >>=20 >> While the overall set may seem daunting at first, the total page = count is 182, so this is a tractable amount, especially after the = requisite boilerplate repetition is discounted. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Tony >>=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt > =B0 Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner = Tor 7 =B0 > =B0 Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, = Germany =B0 > =B0 http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: = +49-40-42875-8452 =B0 > =B0 http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: = +49-40-42875-8409 =B0 From lars@netapp.com Sat Apr 7 01:15:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D2621F8525 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.410, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yqEyJAAp+pQy for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5870421F84FE for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:15:44 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,384,1330934400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="639233745" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2012 01:15:28 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.76.240]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q378FR89017004; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.117]) by vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.240]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 01:15:27 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Tony Li Thread-Topic: [rrg] [irsg] IRSG Poll Request: ILNP document suite Thread-Index: AQHNFJaW55CKg+qaS0inC8IdSmbc4w== Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 08:15:26 +0000 Message-ID: <56DE279D-F2ED-4344-9FC2-C3A3D07D232A@netapp.com> References: <4F7F6B14.4050102@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.116] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D488AD64-DF00-45AE-8F3E-DE76C1E21664"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Thomas C. Schmidt" , "" , Saleem Bhatti , Ran Atkinson Subject: Re: [rrg] [irsg] IRSG Poll Request: ILNP document suite X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:15:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D488AD64-DF00-45AE-8F3E-DE76C1E21664 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Apr 7, 2012, at 0:44, Tony Li wrote: > AFAIK, it's perfectly kosher to have IANA requests in IRTF = experimental track RFCs. Agreed. (Unless of course the registration policy would be "Standards Action", = "IETF Consensus", etc. We can't allocate codepoints from registries that = have those policies, nor can we create registries with those policies. = NB: I don't know if this applies to the ILNP policies.) 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_8FE16E3B-46F8-49DC-9CB3-1C0CC2E9155E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [rrg] Call for Nominations: Applied Networking Research Prize 2012 X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "anrp@irtf.org" List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:42:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_8FE16E3B-46F8-49DC-9CB3-1C0CC2E9155E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 CALL FOR NOMINATIONS: =20 APPLIED NETWORKING RESEARCH PRIZE (ANRP) 2012 =20 http://irtf.org/anrp *** Submit nominations for the 2012 award period of the *** *** Applied Networking Research Prize until May 13, 2012! *** The Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) is awarded for recent results in applied networking research that are relevant for transitioning into shipping Internet products and related standardization efforts. Researchers with relevant, recently published results are encouraged to apply for this prize, which will offer them the opportunity to present and discuss their work with the engineers, network operators, policy makers and scientists that participate in the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) and its research arm, the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF). The goal of the Applied Networking Research Prize is to recognize the best new ideas in networking, and bring them to the IETF and IRTF especially in cases where they would not otherwise see much exposure or discussion. The Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) consists of: * cash prize of $500 (USD) =20 * travel grant to attend a week-long IETF meeting (airfare, hotel, registration, stipend) =20 * invited talk at the IRTF Open Meeting =20 * recognition at the IETF plenary =20 * invitation to related social activities =20 * potential for additional travel grants to future IETF meetings, based on community feedback HOW TO NOMINATE Only a single person can be nominated for the award. The basis of the nomination is a peer-reviewed, recently-published, original journal, conference or workshop paper they authored. The nominee must be one of the main authors of the nominated paper. Both self nominations (nominating one=92s own paper) and third-party nominations (nominating someone else=92s paper) are encouraged. The nominated paper should provide a scientific foundation for possible future IETF engineering work or IRTF research and experimentation, analyze the behavior of Internet protocols in operational deployments or realistic testbeds, make an important contribution to the understanding of Internet scalability, performance, reliability, security or capability, or otherwise be of relevance to ongoing or future IETF or IRTF activities. Applicants must briefly describe how the nominated paper relates to these goals, and are encouraged to describe how a presentation of these research results would foster their transition into new IETF engineering or IRTF experimentation, or otherwise seed new activities that will have an impact on the real-world Internet. The goal of the Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) is to foster the transitioning of research results into real-world benefits for the Internet. Therefore, applicants must indicate that they (or the nominee, in case of third-party nominations) are available to attend at least one of the year=92s IETF meetings in person and in its entirety. Nominations must include: * the name and email address of the nominee * a bibliographic reference to the published nominated paper * a PDF copy of the nominated paper * a statement that describes how the nominated paper fulfills the goals of the award * a statement about which of the year=92s IETF meetings the nominee would be available to attend in person and in its entirety * a brief biography or CV of the nominee * optionally, any other supporting information (link to nominee=92s web site, etc.) Nominations are submitted via the submission site at http://irtf.org/anrp/2012/. In exceptional cases, nominations may also be submitted by email to anrp@irtf.org. SELECTION PROCESS A small selection committee comprised of individuals knowledgeable about the IRTF, IETF and the broader networking research community will evaluate the submissions against these selection criteria. IMPORTANT DATES Applications close: May 13, 2012 (hard) Notifications: June 1, 2012 SPONSORS The Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP) is supported by the Internet Society (ISOC), as part of its Internet Research Award Programme, in coordination with the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF). 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[96.225.134.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eg9sm42253452qab.19.2012.04.17.14.13.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:13:08 -0700 (PDT) From: RJ Atkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:13:07 -0400 Message-Id: <65FCC238-39CE-43DE-80F8-1E3A87BC76A8@gmail.com> To: IRTF Routing RG Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Subject: [rrg] ILNP -02 drafts posted X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:13:10 -0000 All, The following drafts have been posted to the Internet-Drafts archive: draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arp-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-02 draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-02 They contain minor clarifying edits based on the reviews received since the -01 version. The 2 main topics were: 1) Clarify that ILNP multicasting is identical to IP multicasting. 2) The ICMP-related sub-section of "Security Considerations" for draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-02 was edited for clarity based on feedback from several reviewers. Yours, Ran From lars@netapp.com Sun Apr 29 23:24:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5256921F8569; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:24:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.261 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.261 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.461, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_SUB_RAND_LETTRS4=0.799] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zP2h-KdIdXX6; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE5A21F854D; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:24:34 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,502,1330934400"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="644227862" Received: from smtp2.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.159.114]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2012 23:24:34 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht01-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht01-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.76.239]) by smtp2.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id q3U6OYEZ023595; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.117]) by vmwexceht01-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.239]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:24:34 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: IESG IESG Thread-Topic: Request for RFC5742 review of draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-* Thread-Index: AQHNJpnoL272ZKcVqkaRmMv6KdIHrg== Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:24:32 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.116] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E13EE331-B706-4BE8-ADAF-B3EA087CDDEF"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "rrg@irtf.org" , Internet Research Steering Group Subject: [rrg] Request for RFC5742 review of draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-* X-BeenThere: rrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Routing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:24:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E13EE331-B706-4BE8-ADAF-B3EA087CDDEF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, IESG secretary (BCC'ed), this is a request for the IESG to perform an RFC5742 review of the = following drafts describing ILNP from the RRG, to be published as RFCs = on the IRTF Stream: - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-02 (Experimental)=20 - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arp-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-02 (Experimental) - draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-02 (Experimental) These documents have been approved for publication by the IRSG. See = http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/irtf/trac/ticket/42 for details on = prior reviews. Please copy all correspondence to the document shepherd, = Tony Li (tony.li@tony.li). Also, please note that several of these documents require IESG Approval = for codepoint registrations in various IANA registries. In the process = of reviewing these documents under RFC5742 (i.e., for conflicts with = IETF work), please also approve the necessary codepoints to enable = experimentation with ILNP. 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