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If there are reserved resources using RSVP for the data stream of 
a certain session. Can these reserved resources only be used by 
the concerning session? Or may be if the source of the session 
temporarily does not generate data or generates only a low amount 
of data. Can in this case other traffic make use of the reserved 
resources?
Dagmar


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Thanks to all who were involved, especially Yoram and Ramesh, on filling in some
more detail of policy management for RSVP (still some bits missing though -
don't stop thinking about this just yet).

Andrew Smith
RAP WG co-chair

RFC Editor wrote:
> 
> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.
> 
>         RFC 2872
> 
>         Title:      Application and Sub Application Identity Policy
>                     Element for Use with RSVP
>         Author(s):  Y. Bernet, R. Pabbati
>         Status:     Standards Track
>         Date:       June 2000
>         Mailbox:    yoramb@microsoft.com, rameshpa@microsoft.com
>         Pages:      6
>         Characters: 10933
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> 
>         I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-rap-rsvp-appid-01.txt
> 
>         URL:        ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2872.txt
> 
> RSVP [RFC 2205] signaling messages typically include policy data
> objects, which in turn contain policy elements. Policy elements may
> describe user and/or application information, which may be used by
> RSVP aware network elements to apply appropriate policy decisions to
> a traffic flow. This memo details the usage of policy
> elements that provide application information.
> 
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From: "David Perez Perez" <dos-manos@mixmail.com>
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Hello all

I am using RSVP and CBQ with Linux, and I have some 
questions.
I have the system: sender <--> router <--> receiver
and I have installed:
	Router:	SuSE 6.3, kernel 2.2.13
	Sender, receiver: Red Hat 6.0, kernel 2.2.12-14
	and the packets:	iproute2-current.tar.gz
				rsvpd.rel4.2a4-1.tar.gz

a) Why if I start the rsvp daemon like root it doesn磘 
do UDP encapsulation, and if I start it 
like a user it do UDP encapsulation ? (it happens in 
the 3 machines)

root: # rsvpd -D

	RSVP Version 4.2a4, Compiled....
	Log level:7  Debug mask:7  Start time....
	IPv4 Multicast Daemon is not running
	Physical, Virtual...
	.
	.
	T1>

user: # rsvpd -D	

	RSVP Version 4.2a4, Compiled....
	Log level:7  Debug mask:7  Start time....
	IPv4 Multicast Daemon is not running
	Using UDP encapsulation			(<--- 
　 HERE  !!)
	Physical, Virtual...
	.
	.
	T1>



	Does it refer with Multicast ?


b) If I compile the rsvp daemons with option -DCBQ in 
the Makefile of rsvp, I obtain:

	sender: send PATH messages
	receiver: receive PATH messages
	receiver: send RESV message
	router, sender: when RESV arrive, the rsvp 
daemon does`t work, and appear the next
		message in rsvp.log


		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
1071644672
		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
1072168960
		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
1072431104
		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
1072562176
		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
1072627712
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072660480
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072676864
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072685056
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072689152
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072691200
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072692224
		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
1072692736
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072692992
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072693120
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072693184
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072693216
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072693232
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072693240
		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
1072693244
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693246
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
1072693247
		粑�� �: errno 1072693248
		00:07:12.348  Mmm, no policing info?
		00:09:08.341  get_stats

		
		in the monitor appears also:

		"rsvpd: rsvp_debug.c: 460:log:The 
declaration 'severity==0 || severity>=3'
		 Don`t expire"


	What is happening ?

	I comment the line 460 in rsvp_debug.c, I start 
de daemons, write the commands and it 
	works and does the reserve.


c) The class 1:7fff has 1Mbit (with CBQ), I do a 
reserve of any size (< 1Mbit) and the router
reserve it. It is OK. After I do a reserve of any size 
that add with the previous reserve 
overflow the 1Mbit, the daemon in router and after in 
the sender don`t work. In the monitor
appear:

	RTNETLINK error: Unknown error 4294967100 
get_stats Segmentation fault

	What does it mean?



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implementation, testing, or deployment of rsvp.  Please send your
question to rsvp-test@isi.edu

Bob Braden

  *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Jul  7 11:14:21 2000
  *> From: "David Perez Perez" <dos-manos@mixmail.com>
  *> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU
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  *> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 04:56:44 -1300
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  *> 
  *> Hello all
  *> 
  *> I am using RSVP and CBQ with Linux, and I have some 
  *> questions.
  *> I have the system: sender <--> router <--> receiver
  *> and I have installed:
  *> 	Router:	SuSE 6.3, kernel 2.2.13
  *> 	Sender, receiver: Red Hat 6.0, kernel 2.2.12-14
  *> 	and the packets:	iproute2-current.tar.gz
  *> 				rsvpd.rel4.2a4-1.tar.gz
  *> 
  *> a) Why if I start the rsvp daemon like root it doesn磘 
  *> do UDP encapsulation, and if I start it 
  *> like a user it do UDP encapsulation ? (it happens in 
  *> the 3 machines)
  *> 
  *> root: # rsvpd -D
  *> 
  *> 	RSVP Version 4.2a4, Compiled....
  *> 	Log level:7  Debug mask:7  Start time....
  *> 	IPv4 Multicast Daemon is not running
  *> 	Physical, Virtual...
  *> 	.
  *> 	.
  *> 	T1>
  *> 
  *> user: # rsvpd -D	
  *> 
  *> 	RSVP Version 4.2a4, Compiled....
  *> 	Log level:7  Debug mask:7  Start time....
  *> 	IPv4 Multicast Daemon is not running
  *> 	Using UDP encapsulation			(<--- 
  *> 　 HERE  !!)
  *> 	Physical, Virtual...
  *> 	.
  *> 	.
  *> 	T1>
  *> 
  *> 
  *> 
  *> 	Does it refer with Multicast ?
  *> 
  *> 
  *> b) If I compile the rsvp daemons with option -DCBQ in 
  *> the Makefile of rsvp, I obtain:
  *> 
  *> 	sender: send PATH messages
  *> 	receiver: receive PATH messages
  *> 	receiver: send RESV message
  *> 	router, sender: when RESV arrive, the rsvp 
  *> daemon does`t work, and appear the next
  *> 		message in rsvp.log
  *> 
  *> 
  *> 		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1071644672
  *> 		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072168960
  *> 		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072431104
  *> 		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072562176
  *> 		00:07:12.344  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072627712
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072660480
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072676864
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072685056
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072689152
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072691200
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072692224
  *> 		00:07:12.345  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072692736
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072692992
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693120
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693184
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693216
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693232
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693240
  *> 		00:07:12.346  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693244
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693246
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.347  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		00:07:12.348  粑�� �: errno 
  *> 1072693247
  *> 		粑�� �: errno 1072693248
  *> 		00:07:12.348  Mmm, no policing info?
  *> 		00:09:08.341  get_stats
  *> 
  *> 		
  *> 		in the monitor appears also:
  *> 
  *> 		"rsvpd: rsvp_debug.c: 460:log:The 
  *> declaration 'severity==0 || severity>=3'
  *> 		 Don`t expire"
  *> 
  *> 
  *> 	What is happening ?
  *> 
  *> 	I comment the line 460 in rsvp_debug.c, I start 
  *> de daemons, write the commands and it 
  *> 	works and does the reserve.
  *> 
  *> 
  *> c) The class 1:7fff has 1Mbit (with CBQ), I do a 
  *> reserve of any size (< 1Mbit) and the router
  *> reserve it. It is OK. After I do a reserve of any size 
  *> that add with the previous reserve 
  *> overflow the 1Mbit, the daemon in router and after in 
  *> the sender don`t work. In the monitor
  *> appear:
  *> 
  *> 	RTNETLINK error: Unknown error 4294967100 
  *> get_stats Segmentation fault
  *> 
  *> 	What does it mean?
  *> 
  *> 
  *> 
  *> Thank you very much !!
  *> E-mail: dos-manos@mixmail.com
  *> 
  *> 		
  *>  
  *> 
  *> Tu correo gratis en MixMail http://www.mixmail.com
  *> Inicia tu navegacion en http://www.ya.com
  *> 


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David Perez Perez wrote:

> Hello all
>
> I am using RSVP and CBQ with Linux, and I have some
> questions.
> I have the system: sender <--> router <--> receiver
> and I have installed:
>         Router: SuSE 6.3, kernel 2.2.13
>         Sender, receiver: Red Hat 6.0, kernel 2.2.12-14
>         and the packets:        iproute2-current.tar.gz
>                                 rsvpd.rel4.2a4-1.tar.gz
>
> a) Why if I start the rsvp daemon like root it doesn磘
> do UDP encapsulation, and if I start it
> like a user it do UDP encapsulation ? (it happens in
> the 3 machines)

::: :::

The rsvp code tries to use the rsvp protocol first, if that fails, it
does udp encapsulation.
To use rsvp, the code must  be able to use the raw interface. On linux,
raw devices may only be opened by root. Hope this addresses your
question.
Alfred D'Souza





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HI,
  I want to know how to use rtap, filter and others in the apitools that
come with rsvp pkg for Linux. How do I interprete the
commands ? How many m/cs I need to install rsvpd in ?
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The draft-rk-diffserv-rsvp-sig-00.txt discusses the use of RSVP for
signaling and admission control in DiffServ networks. It also
defines the required RSVP objects. The use of RSVP as described
in this document simplifies the processing and can be used by
end hosts to signal the required PHBs to the network. It is also
useful to the network for admission control purposes and does not add
any overheads in data path. It also reduces the processing overheads of
RSVP messages.

Please let me know whether anybody has similar idea and whether we
can improve this draft for adding admission control mechanisms to
DiffServ networks.

Thanks,
.....RK

The draft is available at -
>  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rk-diffserv-rsvp-sig-00.txt.
> 


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Hi,
  I want to use rsvpd deamon through programs. So do I need to look into the API codes or some standard convenient APIs are already available ? 

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This is already an area of active work in the ISSLL working group,
so can you try on their list?

Thanks

  Brian Carpenter
  diffserv co-chair

Radhakrishna wrote:
> 
> The draft-rk-diffserv-rsvp-sig-00.txt discusses the use of RSVP for
> signaling and admission control in DiffServ networks. It also
> defines the required RSVP objects. The use of RSVP as described
> in this document simplifies the processing and can be used by
> end hosts to signal the required PHBs to the network. It is also
> useful to the network for admission control purposes and does not add
> any overheads in data path. It also reduces the processing overheads of
> RSVP messages.
> 
> Please let me know whether anybody has similar idea and whether we
> can improve this draft for adding admission control mechanisms to
> DiffServ networks.
> 
> Thanks,
> .....RK
> 
> The draft is available at -
> >  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rk-diffserv-rsvp-sig-00.txt.
> >
> 
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Hello,

Does anyone have experience about the RSVP support in Windows 2000?

Does only Windows 2000 server(not Windows 2000 professional) support RSVP?
And how to config RSVP in it?

Thanks in advance!

-------
Hao 



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This should move to rsvp-test. I will respond from there.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hao Shang [mailto:hao@cs.wpi.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 6:49 AM
> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU
> Subject: About RSVP support in Windows 2000
>=20
>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> Does anyone have experience about the RSVP support in Windows 2000?
>=20
> Does only Windows 2000 server(not Windows 2000 professional)=20
> support RSVP?
> And how to config RSVP in it?
>=20
> Thanks in advance!
>=20
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> Hao=20
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Hao Shang [<A =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 6:49 AM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: rsvp@ISI.EDU</FONT>

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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hello,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Does anyone have experience about the RSVP =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Does only Windows 2000 server(not Windows 2000 =
professional) </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; support RSVP?</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; And how to config RSVP in it?</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Thanks in advance!</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

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Hi

I am using RSVP,CBQ in LINUX
I run cbqinit.eth0, and class 7ffe has 5 Mbit, parent 
class is isolated.
The PATH arrive to receiver.
My question is:
Why in the router appear: "Adspec( 1 hop 655kBW 48us 
1500B, ...." ?
When the receiver sends RESV, appear: "RESV: error 
Traffic Control failure".

Why appear this ? 



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From: Gal Mor <Galm@orckit.com>
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Hi,

As you all know, RSVP is a unidirectional protocol, resources will be
reserved to the sender that sent the RSVP PATH request.

if, for example, user started an application that needs a resources in both
direction (upstream and downstream). if the application will send an RSVP
PATH message, resources will be reserved only in downstream direction (from
the destination to the user's application).

how can we trigger a request in the opposite direction, should the
application ask the destination to send an RSVP PATH message, or there is a
simpler way ?

thanks in advance
Gal.



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I would like to call the Working Group's attention to:

	http://www.packetcable.com/specs/pkt-sp-dqos-I01-991201.pdf

and pose the questions: is this still RSVP, modified to be
bi-directional?  Is this compatible with the other RSVP extensions,
including Refresh Reduction?  Does anyone care?

This work has been developed by a commercial consortium outside
the IETF process (as I understand it).  They have asked IANA for
ten new object types to support this spec, and of course IANA
will assign them.

Bob Braden



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> As you all know, RSVP is a unidirectional protocol, resources will be
> reserved to the sender that sent the RSVP PATH request.
> 
> if, for example, user started an application that needs a resources in both
> direction (upstream and downstream). if the application will send an RSVP
> PATH message, resources will be reserved only in downstream direction (from
> the destination to the user's application).
>
> how can we trigger a request in the opposite direction, should the
> application ask the destination to send an RSVP PATH message, or there is a
> simpler way ?
>
> thanks in advance
> Gal.

RSVP's simplex reservation works in all cases including networks with
asymmentric paths (I agree that the operation is not the least cost, or
the most optimal).
Allowing a control message from one direction to make reservations for both
directions works only if all paths are symmentric.

Lixia



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Lixia Zhang wrote:

> > As you all know, RSVP is a unidirectional protocol, resources will be
> > reserved to the sender that sent the RSVP PATH request.
> >
> > if, for example, user started an application that needs a resources in both
> > direction (upstream and downstream). if the application will send an RSVP
> > PATH message, resources will be reserved only in downstream direction (from
> > the destination to the user's application).
> >
> > how can we trigger a request in the opposite direction, should the
> > application ask the destination to send an RSVP PATH message, or there is a
> > simpler way ?
> >
> > thanks in advance
> > Gal.
>

I think it perhaps you can realized that in your system by invoking a
trigger message after one-way RSVP.

Jing Shen




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Hi,
<p>I have established an MPLS TE Tunnel between 2
<br>Cisco 7200 routers with RSVP as the signaling protocol.
<br>I've made a RSVP reserve if 100 Kbit/s. I have one question:
<br>if you don't use your BW reserved, or you just use, for
<br>instace 25%, what happens with the unused reserved BW. It
<br>can be used by other traffic flows? It can be used by best-effort
<br>traffic who travels in the same links that the RSVP flows?
<p>Thanks
<p>Diego Otero</html>



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Internet Draft                                                  S. Herzog
Expiration: January 2001                                        IPHighway
File: draft-ietf-rap-signaled-priority-v2-00.txt                July 2000
Replaces: RFC 2751


              Signaled Preemption Priority Policy Element

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Abstract

   This document describes a preemption priority policy element for use
   by signaled policy based admission protocols (such as [RSVP] and
   [COPS]).

   Preemption priority defines a relative importance (rank) within the
   set of flows competing to be admitted into the network. Rather than
   admitting flows by order of arrival (First Come First Admitted)
   network nodes may consider priorities to preempt some previously
   admitted low priority flows in order to make room for a newer, high-
   priority flow.

   This memo corrects an RSVP POLICY_DATA P-Type codepoint assignment 
   error in RFC 2751. 

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Table of Contents

   1 Introduction .....................................................2
   2 Scope and Applicability ..........................................3
   3 Stateless Policy .................................................3
   4 Policy Element Format ............................................4
   5 Priority Merging Issues ..........................................5
   5.1  Priority Merging Strategies ...................................6
   5.1.1 Take priority of highest QoS .................................6
   5.1.2 Take highest priority ........................................7
   5.1.3 Force error on heterogeneous merge ...........................7
   5.2  Modifying Priority Elements ...................................7
   6 Error Processing .................................................8
   7 IANA Considerations ..............................................8
   8 Security Considerations ..........................................8
   9 References .......................................................9
   10  Author Information .............................................9
   Appendix A: Example ...............................................10
   A.1  Computing Merged Priority ....................................10
   A.2  Translation (Compression) of Priority Elements ...............11
   Full Copyright Statement ..........................................12

1  Introduction

   Traditional Capacity based Admission Control (CAC) indiscriminately
   admits new flows until capacity is exhausted (First Come First
   Admitted). Policy based Admission Control (PAC) on the other hand
   attempts to minimize the significance of order of arrival and use
   policy based admission criteria instead.

   One of the more popular policy criteria is the rank of importance of
   a flow relative to the others competing for admission into a network
   node. Preemption Priority takes effect only when a set of flows
   attempting admission through a node represents overbooking of
   resources such that based on CAC some would have to be rejected.
   Preemption priority criteria help the node select the most important
   flows (highest priority) for admission, while rejecting the low
   priority ones.

   Network nodes which support preemption should consider priorities to
   preempt some previously admitted low-priority flows in order to make
   room for a newer, high-priority flow.

   This document describes the format and applicability of the
   preemption priority represented as a policy element in [RSVP-EXT].






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2  Scope and Applicability

   The Framework document for policy-based admission control [RAP]
   describes the various components that participate in policy decision
   making (i.e., PDP, PEP and LDP). The emphasis of PREEMPTION_PRI
   elements is to be simple, stateless, and light-weight such that they
   could be implemented internally within a node's LDP (Local Decision
   Point).

   Certain base assumptions are made in the usage model for
   PREEMPTION_PRI elements:

   - They are created by PDPs

      In a model where PDPs control PEPs at the periphery of the policy
      domain (e.g., in border routers), PDPs reduce sets of relevant
      policy rules into a single priority criterion. This priority as
      expressed in the PREEMPTION_PRI element can then be communicated
      to downstream PEPs of the same policy domain, which have LDPs but
      no controlling PDP.

   - They can be processed by LDPs

      PREEMPTION_PRI elements are processed by LDPs of nodes that do not
      have a controlling PDP. LDPs may interpret these objects, forward
      them as is, or perform local merging to forward an equivalent
      merged PREEMPTION_PRI policy element. LDPs must follow the merging
      strategy that was encoded by PDPs in the PREEMPTION_PRI objects.
      (Clearly, a PDP, being a superset of LDP, may act as an LDP as
      well).

   - They are enforced by PEPs

      PREEMPTION_PRI elements interact with a node's traffic control
      module (and capacity admission control) to enforce priorities, and
      preempt previously admitted flows when the need arises.

3  Stateless Policy

   Signaled Preemption Priority is stateless (does not require past
   history or external information to be interpreted). Therefore, when
   carried in COPS messages for the outsourcing of policy decisions,
   these objects are included as COPS Stateless Policy Data Decision
   objects (see [COSP, COPS-RSVP]).







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4  Policy Element Format

   The format of Policy Data objects is defined in [RSVP-EXT]. A single
   Policy Data object may contain one or more policy elements, each
   representing a different (and perhaps orthogonal) policy.

   The format of preemption priority policy element is as follows:

      +-------------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
      | Length (12)               | P-Type = PREEMPTION_PRI   |
      +------+------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
      | Flags       | M. Strategy | Error Code  | Reserved(0) |
      +------+------+-------------+-------------+-------------+
      | Preemption Priority       | Defending Priority        |
      +------+------+-------------+-------------+-------------+

   Length: 16 bits
      Always 12. The overall length of the policy element, in bytes.

   P-Type: 16 bits
      PREEMPTION_PRI  = 1

      This value is registered with IANA, see Section 7.

   Flags: 8 bits
      Reserved (always 0).

   Merge Strategy: 8 bit
      1    Take priority of highest QoS: recommended
      2    Take highest priority: aggressive
      3    Force Error on heterogeneous merge

   Reserved: 8 bits
   Error code: 8 bits
      0  NO_ERROR        Value used for regular PREEMPTION_PRI elements
      1  PREEMPTION      This previously admitted flow was preempted
      2  HETEROGENEOUS   This element encountered heterogeneous merge

   Reserved: 8 bits
      Always 0.

   Preemption Priority: 16 bit (unsigned)
      The priority of the new flow compared with the defending priority
      of previously admitted flows. Higher values represent higher
      Priority.






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   Defending Priority: 16 bits (unsigned)
      Once a flow was admitted, the preemption priority becomes
      irrelevant. Instead, its defending priority is used to compare
      with the preemption priority of new flows.

   For any specific flow, its preemption priority must always be less
   than or equal to the defending priority. A wide gap between
   preemption and defending priority provides added stability: moderate
   preemption priority makes it harder for a flow to preempt others, but
   once it succeeded, the higher defending priority makes it easier for
   the flow to avoid preemption itself. This provides a mechanism for
   balancing between order dependency and priority.

5  Priority Merging Issues

   Consider the case where two RSVP reservations merge:


          F1: QoS=High,  Priority=Low
          F2: QoS=Low,   Priority=High

   F1+F2= F3: QoS=High,  Priority=???

   The merged reservation F3 should have QoS=Hi, but what Priority
   should it assume? Several negative side-effects have been identified
   that may affect such a merger:

   Free-Riders:

   If F3 assumes Priority=High, then F1 got a free ride, assuming high
   priority that was only intended to the low QoS F2. If one associates
   costs as a function of QoS and priority, F1 receives an "expensive"
   priority without having to "pay" for it.

   Denial of Service:

   If F3 assumes Priority=Low, the merged flow could be preempted or
   fail even though F2 presented high priority.

   Denial of service is virtually the inverse of the free-rider problem.
   When flows compete for resources, if one flow receives undeserving
   high priority it may be able to preempt another deserving flow (hence
   one free-rider turns out to be another's denial of service).








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   Instability:

   The combination of preemption priority, killer reservation and
   blockade state [RSVP] may increase the instability of admitted flows
   where a reservation may be preempted, reinstated, and preempted again
   periodically.

5.1  Priority Merging Strategies

   In merging situations LDPs may receive multiple preemption elements
   and must compute the priority of the merged flow according to the
   following rules:

    a. Preemption priority and defending priority are merged and computed
       separately, irrespective of each other.

    b. Participating priority elements are selected.

       All priority elements are examined according to their merging
       strategy to decide whether they should participate in the merged
       result (as specified bellow).

    c. The highest priority of all participating priority elements is
       computed.

   The remainder of this section describes the different merging
   strategies the can be specified in the PREEMPTION_PRI element.

5.1.1  Take priority of highest QoS

   The PREEMPTION_PRI element would participate in the merged
   reservation only if it belongs to a flow that contributed to the
   merged QoS level (i.e., that its QoS requirement does not constitute
   a subset another reservation.)  A simple way to determine whether a
   flow contributed to the merged QoS result is to compute the merged
   QoS with and without it and to compare the results (although this is
   clearly not the most efficient method).

   The reasoning for this approach is that the highest QoS flow is the
   one dominating the merged reservation and as such its priority should
   dominate it as well. This approach is the most amiable to the
   prevention of priority distortions such as free-riders and denial of
   service.

   This is a recommended merging strategy.






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5.1.2  Take highest priority

   All PREEMPTION_PRI elements participate in the merged reservation.

   This strategy disassociates priority and QoS level, and therefore is
   highly subject to free-riders and its inverse image, denial of
   service.

   This is not a recommended method, but may be simpler to implement.

5.1.3  Force error on heterogeneous merge

   A PREEMPTION_PRI element may participate in a merged reservation only
   if all other flows in the merged reservation have the same QoS level
   (homogeneous flows).

   The reasoning for this approach assumes that the heterogeneous case
   is relatively rare and too complicated to deal with, thus it better
   be prohibited.

   This strategy lends itself to denial of service, when a single
   receiver specifying a non-compatible QoS level may cause denial of
   service for all other receivers of the merged reservation.

   Note: The determination of heterogeneous flows applies to QoS level
   only (FLOWSPEC values), and is a matter for local (LDP) definition.
   Other types of heterogeneous reservations (e.g. conflicting
   reservation styles) are handled by RSVP and are unrelated to this
   PREEMPTION_PRI element.

   This is a recommended merging strategy when reservation homogeneity
   is coordinated and enforced for the entire multicast tree. It is more
   restrictive than Section 5.1.1, but is easier to implement.

5.2  Modifying Priority Elements

   When POLICY_DATA objects are protected by integrity, LDPs should not
   attempt to modify them. They must be forwarded as-is or else their
   security envelope would be invalidated. In other cases, LDPs may
   modify and merge incoming PREEMPTION_PRI elements to reduce their
   size and number according to the following rule:

   Merging is performed for each merging strategy separately.

   There is no known algorithm to merge PREEMPTION_PRI element of
   different merging strategies without loosing valuable information
   that may affect OTHER nodes.




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   -  For each merging strategy, the highest QoS of all participating
      PREEMPTION_PRI elements is taken and is placed in an outgoing
      PREEMPTION_PRI element of this merging strategy.

   -  This approach effectively compresses the number of forwarded
      PREEMPTION_PRI elements to at most to the number of different
      merging strategies, regardless of the number of receivers (See the
      example in Appendix A.2).

6  Error Processing

   A PREEMPTION_PRI error object is sent back toward the appropriate
   receivers when an error involving PREEMPTION_PRI elements occur.

   PREEMPTION

   When a previously admitted flow is preempted, a copy of the
   preempting flow's PREEMPTION_PRI element is sent back toward the PDP
   that originated the preempted PREEMPTION_PRI object. This PDP, having
   information on both the preempting and the preempted priorities may
   construct a higher priority PREEMPTION_PRI element in an effort to
   re-instate the preempted flow.

   Heterogeneity

   When a flow F1 with Heterogeneous Error merging strategy set in its
   PREEMPTION_PRI element encounters heterogeneity the PREEMPTION_PRI
   element is sent back toward receivers with the Heterogeneity error
   code set.

7  IANA Considerations

   Following the policies outlined in [IANA-CONSIDERATIONS], Standard
   RSVP Policy Elements (P-type values) are assigned by IETF Consensus
   action as described in [RSVP-EXT].

   P-Type PREEMPTION_PRI is assigned the value 3.

8  Security Considerations

   The integrity of PREEMPTION_PRI is guaranteed, as any other policy
   element, by the encapsulation into a Policy Data object [RSVP-EXT].

   Further security mechanisms are not warranted, especially considering
   that preemption priority aims to provide simple and quick guidance to
   routers within a trusted zone or at least a single zone (no zone
   boundaries are crossed).




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9  References

   [RSVP-EXT]            Herzog, S., "RSVP Extensions for Policy
                         Control", RFC 2750, January 2000.

   [COPS-RSVP]           Boyle, J., Cohen, R., Durham, D., Herzog, S.,
                         Raja, R. and A. Sastry, "COPS usage for RSVP",
                         RFC 2749, January 2000.

   [RAP]                 Yavatkar, R., et al., "A Framework for Policy
                         Based Admission Control", RFC 2753, January
                         2000.

   [COPS]                Boyle, J., Cohen, R., Durham, D., Herzog, S.,
                         Raja, R. and A. Sastry, "The COPS (Common Open
                         Policy Service) Protocol", RFC 2748, January
                         2000.

   [RSVP]                Braden, R., ed., et al., "Resource ReSerVation
                         Protocol (RSVP) - Functional Specification",
                         RFC 2205, September 1997.

   [IANA-CONSIDERATIONS] Alvestrand, H. and T. Narten, "Guidelines for
                         Writing an IANA Considerations Section in
                         RFCs", BCP 26, RFC 2434, October 1998.

10 Author Information

   Shai Herzog
   IPHighway, Inc.
   55 New York Avenue
   Framingham, MA 01701

   Phone: (508) 620-1141
   EMail: herzog@iphighway.com
















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Appendix A:    Example

   The following examples describe the computation of merged priority
   elements as well as the translation (compression) of PREEMPTION_PRI
   elements.

A.1 Computing Merged Priority

                             r1
                            /   QoS=Hi (Pr=3, St=Highest QoS)
                           /
         s1-----A---------B--------r2  QoS=Low (Pr=4, St=Highest PP)
                 \        \
                  \        \   QoS=Low  (Pr=7, St=Highest QoS)
                   r4        r3

           QoS=Low (Pr=9, St=Error)

         Example 1: Merging preemption priority elements

   Example one describes a multicast scenario with one sender and four
   receivers each with each own PREEMPTION_PRI element definition.

   r1, r2 and r3 merge in B. The resulting priority is 4.

   Reason: The PREEMPTION_PRI of r3 doesn't participate (since r3 is not
   contributing to the merged QoS) and the priority is the highest of
   the PREEMPTION_PRI from r1 and r2.

   r1, r2, r3 and r4 merge in A. The resulting priority is again 4: r4
   doesn't participate because its own QoS=Low is incompatible with the
   other (r1) QoS=High. An error PREEMPTION_PRI should be sent back to
   r4 telling it that its PREEMPTION_PRI element encountered
   heterogeneity.

















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A.2 Translation (Compression) of Priority Elements

   Given this set of participating PREEMPTION_PRI elements, the
   following compression can take place at the merging node:

   From:
             (Pr=3, St=Highest QoS)
             (Pr=7, St=Highest QoS)
             (Pr=4, St=Highest PP)
             (Pr=9, St=Highest PP)
             (Pr=6, St=Highest PP)
   To:
             (Pr=7, St=Highest QoS)
             (Pr=9, St=Highest PP)





































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At 05:28 AM 7/14/00, Juan Diego Otero wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have established an MPLS TE Tunnel between 2
>Cisco 7200 routers with RSVP as the signaling protocol.
>I've made a RSVP reserve if 100 Kbit/s. I have one question:
>if you don't use your BW reserved, or you just use, for
>instace 25%, what happens with the unused reserved BW. It
>can be used by other traffic flows? It can be used by best-effort
>traffic who travels in the same links that the RSVP flows?
>
>Thanks
>
>Diego Otero

Keep in mind that RSVP is only a messenger that carries your reservation 
requests around. RSVP does not make admission policies itself.
It is up to the admission control module at the node to decide what to do 
with reserved but unused bandwidth.

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    "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in =
this=20
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   =20
    This document defines two new ErrorValues for the Policy Error =
Object, which=20
    is part of the Policy Data object [RFC2752]. These new ErrorValues =
are being=20
    defined because the ErrorValues defined in RFC 2752 are not =
extensive enough=20
    for a Policy server(PDP) to control application data flows. Hence =
this draft=20
    is defining two new ErrorValues to provide the host with additional =

    information on the error that caused the RSVP reservation failure.  =
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    One ErrorValue allows the host to request a new reservation with =
different=20
    QoS requirements from the initial reservation. Consequently, the =
network=20
    may be able to provide this new QoS level and hence the host can =
achieve=20
    some QoS instead of only achieving a best effort service.  The =
other=20
    ErrorValue is used to convey to a host that the reservation has =
failed and=20
    host must not send the particular type of traffic.  This is =
important for=20
    applications that the network cannot easily classify and therefore =
may have=20
    difficulty blocking from the network.   =20
    =20
    The ErrorValues are sent back to the host in the Policy Data Object =
inside=20
    an RSVP PathErr or ResvErr message as defined in [RFC 2752].  This =
works for=20
    both sender-based or receiver-based admission control. =20
    =20
2.  Introduction=20
    =20
    The POLICY_DATA object can be used to convey two types of policy =
failure=20
    information back to hosts initiating an RSVP reservation.  =20
    =20
    The first type of failure informs the host that it must choose =
between=20
    sending its traffic with no QoS (best effort service) or attempt =
another=20
    reservation requesting a different QoS level from the network.  =
Some=20
    applications, e.g., IP telephony used in a business environment, =
may be=20
    configured to use alternate paths to send traffic, e.g., route call =
to PSTN,=20
    because a best effort service does not provide an acceptable level =
of=20
    quality for the user.  =20
    =20
    The second type of failure informs the requesting host and/or =
application=20
    that it should not send any traffic for the flow signaled in the =
RSVP=20
    messages.  This is useful when the network cannot provide a useful =
level of
    QoS that the application needs and it is better for the host to not =
send the
    traffic rather than the traffic experiencing unpredictable and =
hence=20
    undesirable QoS.  This is also useful to limit the amount of =
traffic send to
    expensive connections.=20
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    Note that this approach works for both sender-based and =
receiver-based=20
    admission control models.  The POLICY_DATA object containing this =
ErrorValue=20
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whether=20
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    The Policy Error Object (P-Type=3D1 or 2, A-Type=3D4, SubType=3D0) =
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insufficient=20
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ErrorValue in=20
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    reservation to be failed by a PDP (Policy Decision Point) or LDP =
(Local=20
    Decision Point) in the first RSVP-aware PEP (Policy Enforcement =
Point) in
    the network where there is insufficient bandwidth to satisfy the IP =
Phone's
    reservation request.  Once this reservation has failed, additional=20
    information can be conveyed to the host in the OctetString field in =
the=20
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for the=20
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PathErr
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quickly=20
    failed.  This type of quick failure is important for applications =
such as=20
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that this
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send the=20
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can also=20
    be achieved by the PDP sending a DCLASS object with DSCP '000000' =
(best=20
    effort service) back to the originating host to use to mark =
subsequent=20
    traffic associated with the reservation.  This has the same result =
of=20
    getting no QoS treatment from the network.  However, in the latter =
case, the
    application will not know that it is getting no QoS and may not =
function=20
    properly.=20
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to the=20
    host so its traffic can achieve some QoS from the network albeit =
not the QoS=20
    it requested in the initial reservation.  The determination of the=20
    alternative DCLASS object would be made by the PDP and the host may =
elect to
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    A host attempts a reservation request for 384kbps but the network =
can only=20
    provide 128kbps during the time of the reservation.  The network =
fails the=20
    reservation due to insufficient bandwidth (ErrorValue=3D6) and can =
indicate=20
    in the OctetString "128kbps available" (128kbps of bandwidth was =
available=20
    at the time the reservation had failed).  The host may then =
initiate a new=20
    reservation requesting 128kbps if this is acceptable to the host's=20
    application.=20
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    Example 2:=20
    =20
    A host attempts a reservation request for 384kbps with a given QoS =
level but=20
    the network has no bandwidth available at for the requested QoS =
level. The=20
    network fails the reservation due to insufficient bandwidth =
(ErrorValue=3D6). =20
    The host can then use this information to make one of many =
decision, e.g.,=20
    attempt to initiate new reservation with different QoS level or =
lower=20
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when the=20
    PDP (or LDP) does not want the host to send any traffic even as =
best effort. =20
    =20
    Network administrators are limiting deploying of multimedia =
applications on=20
    enterprise networks because they are concerned about sending =
multimedia=20
    traffic over their expensive wide area network connections.  =
Network=20
    administrators would like to either prevent high bandwidth =
applications from=20
    sending any data over these expensive connections or at least limit =
the=20
    number of simultaneous sessions that can be active.  The simple =
choice is=20
    not to deploy these types of applications.  =20
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    This ErrorValue provides the network administrators with the =
control they=20
    need over these expensive network resources.  Furthermore, when a =
PDP=20
    returns this ErrorValue, it could also push a filter to the PEP to =
drop all=20
    packets for this session.=20
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4.  Security Considerations=20
=20
    Authentication mechanisms defined in [RFC 2752] apply to this =
document.=20
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5.  References=20
   =20
   [RFC 2753]    Yavatkar R., et al. "A Framework for Policy-based =
Admission=20
                 Control", RFC 2753, January 2000.=20
   =20
   [RFC 2750]    Herzog S., "RSVP Extensions for Policy Control", RFC =
2750,=20
                 January 2000.=20
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   [RFC 2752]    Yadav S., et al. "Identity Representation for RSVP", =
RFC=20
                 2752, January 2000.=20
  =20
6.  Acknowledgments=20
   =20
    The authors would like to thank Yoram Bernet, Kwok-Ho Chan, Ron =
Pashby, =20
    Eric Edwards and Nabil Seddigh for their input into the creation of =
this
    document.=20
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7.  Author's Addresses=20
   =20
    Ralph Santitoro=20
    Nortel Networks=20
    4100 Guardian Street=20
    Simi Valley, CA 93063=20
    Phone: 805-527-3024=20
    Email: rsantito@nortelnetworks.com=20
    =20
    Ramesh Pabbati=20
    Microsoft=20
    1 Microsoft Way=20
    Redmond, WA  98054=20
    Phone: 425-936-9438=20
    Email: rameshpa@microsoft.com=20
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    http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html.=20
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Copyright Notice=20
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    Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000).  All Rights Reserved.=20
   =20
Conventions used in this document=20
   =20
    The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", =

    "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED",  "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in =
this=20
    document are to be interpreted as described in [RFC 2119].=20
   =20
1.  Abstract=20
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    The identity policy element (PE) is part of the Policy Data Object=20
    [RFC 2750] which may be included in RSVP [RFC 2205] signaling =
messages.=20
    Policy elements with a P-type of AUTH_APP are used to identify =
applications=20
    and their attributes as defined in [RFC 2752]. =20



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    The usage and format of the PE for application identification is =
defined in=20
    [RFC 2753].  RSVP-aware network elements may use this application=20
    identification information to apply appropriate policy decisions =
for a given=20
    traffic flow.  =20
    =20
    This document proposes a standardized set of sub-application (SAPP) =

    descriptors to facilitate network element and host =
interoperability. Since=20
    applications, in general, are implementation-specific, a =
standardized set=20
    of APPs will not be covered in the document.  However, hypothetical =
APP=20
    names will be used in the different examples for completeness.=20
    =20
    This document will provide SAPP descriptors only for real-time =
application,=20
    namely, audio, video and telephony (voice and fax) applications.  =
APP and=20
    SAPP descriptors may be standardized for other non-real-time =
applications. =20
    However, this is beyond the scope of this memo.=20
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2.  Introduction=20
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    Many types of real-time applications, such as IP telephony, video =
and=20
    streaming audio, are difficult to classify.  This is because they =
do not use=20
    well known, standardized port numbers or do not have standardized =
protocol=20
    IDs.  Furthermore, devices can send multiple types of traffic, each =

    requiring different treatment by the network so classifying only on =
the=20
    source IP address is insufficient.  SAPP can be used to distinguish =
between=20
    these different traffic types by providing standardized names to =
define the=20
    sub-application type.  =20
    =20
    Finally, SAPP may be use in conjunction with other RSVP objects, =
e.g.,=20
    Flowspec and Filterspec, to allow a policy server (PDP) to make =
more=20
    informed policy decisions on the traffic to be sent to the network. =

   =20
3.  Standardized Set of Sub-Application IDs=20
   =20
    RFC 2872 provides some examples for Sub-application (SAPP) =
identification. =20
    These attributes are provided in the Policy Locator attribute field =
in the=20
    Policy Element.  To facilitate interoperability, a standardized set =
of SAPP=20
    descriptors are provided in the next sections.  Many of the SAPP =
descriptors=20
    used are defined in [RTP Profile].=20
    =20
    The sub-application (SAPP) identifiers described in the next =
sub-sections=20
    consist of audio, voice, fax and video.  Each of these has =
additional SAPPs=20
    which provide additional descriptors used to identify the =
application.=20
   =20
3.1 Audio=20

    Audio SAPPs must include one codec and may include one or more =
additional=20
    SAPPs.  The focus of these audio SAPPs is for use in real-time, =
streaming=20
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    audio applications such as Internet radio or music broadcasts.  =
However, the=20
    audio SAPPs may also be used for the identification of other audio=20
    applications as well.=20
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    SAPP=3DAudio=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DMP1-32=20
    SAPP=3DMP1-44.1=20
    SAPP=3DMP1-48=20
    SAPP=3DMP2-16=20
    SAPP=3DMP2-22.05=20
    SAPP=3DMP2-24=20
    SAPP=3DMP2-32=20
    SAPP=3DMP2-44.1=20
    SAPP=3DMP2-48=20
    SAPP=3DMP3-32=20
    SAPP=3DMP3-44.1=20
    SAPP=3DMP3-48=20
    =20
    This example specifies an MP1 (MPEG-1) audio file playing on a CD =
Audio=20
    Player device.=20
    =20
    Example:  APP=3DCD Audio Player SAPP=3DAudio, SAPP=3DMP1-44.1=20
    =20
3.2 Voice=20
    =20
    Voice SAPPs must include at least one codec and may include one or =
more=20
    additional SAPPs.  When a VAD (Voice Activity Detection) SAPP, =
which=20
    includes silence suppression, is included, it indicates that VAD is =

    supported.  If the VAD SAPP is not included then it indicates that =
VAD is=20
    not supported.=20
    =20
    While a voice application may be considered an audio application, =
this=20
    document  has separated them because there are unique differences =
between=20
    the two. Voice applications are interactive and as such are more =
latency=20
    sensitive than audio applications.  A network administrator will =
apply=20
    different policies that will take this into account and hence this=20
    difference is of interest in the policy decisions made by the PDPs =
(Policy=20
    Decision Points) and PEP (Policy Enforcement Point) network =
elements=20
    enforcing the traffic.  =20
    =20
    SAPP=3DVoice=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DG.711=20
    SAPP=3DG.729=20
    SAPP=3DG.728=20
    SAPP=3DG.722=20

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    SAPP=3DG.723.1=20
    SAPP=3DG.726-40=20
    SAPP=3DG.726-32=20
    SAPP=3DG.726-24=20
    SAPP=3DG.726-16=20
    SAPP=3DGSM6.10=20
    SAPP=3DGSM6.90=20
    SAPP=3DGSM-HR=20
    SAPP=3DGSM-EFR=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DVAD    =20
    =20
    In this example, the IP Phone indicates that it will use the G.729 =
codec=20
    with VAD (Voice Activity Detection) enabled (and hence, silence =
suppression=20
    enabled) for a voice call.=20
    =20
    Example:  APP=3DIP Phone, SAPP=3DVoice, SAPP=3DG.729, SAPP=3DVAD=20

3.3 Fax=20
    =20
    There are two predominant ITU-T IP-based Fax standards, namely, =
T.38 and=20
    T.37.  The SAPPs for fax must include the standard it is using =
(T.38 or=20
    T.37) and at least one modulation scheme.=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DFax=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DT.38=20
    SAPP=3DT.37=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DV.90=20
    SAPP=3DV.34=20
    SAPP=3DV.17=20
    SAPP=3DV.29=20
    SAPP=3DV.27=20
    =20
    In this example, an IP Telephony (IPT) Gateway indicates that it =
will=20
    initiate a T.38 real-time fax call using the V.17 (14.4kbps) =
modulation=20
    scheme.=20
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    Example:  APP=3DIPT Gateway, SAPP=3DFax, SAPP=3DT.38, SAPP=3DV.17=20

3.4 Video=20
   =20
    Video SAPPs consist of the codec including the video window size =
specified=20
    in the standard CIF format.  This provides the PDP with more =
information on=20
    the type of video (window size) to be sent over the network.  A =
network=20


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    administrator, for example, may only allow an application to send =
H.263-QCIF=20
    video over expensive wide area connections but allow H.263-CIF =
video over=20
    high bandwidth campus LAN connections.=20
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    SAPP=3DVideo=20
    =20
    SAPP=3DH.261-CIF=20
    SAPP=3DH.261-QCIF=20
    SAPP=3DH.263-CIF=20
    SAPP=3DH.263-QCIF=20
    SAPP=3DH.263-SQCIF=20
    SAPP=3DH.263-4CIF=20
    SAPP=3DH.263-16QCIF=20
    =20
    This example represents a 180x144 pixel Quarter Common Intermediate =
Format=20
    (CIF) frame of H.261-encoded video playing on a Media Player.=20
    =20
    Example:  APP=3DMedia Player, SAPP=3DVideo, SAPP=3DH.261-QCIF=20
=20
4.  Security Considerations=20
=20
    The identity policy element does not guarantee any association with =
the=20
    application initiating it.  However, the identity policy element =
can be part=20
    of same RSVP message that contains the POLICY_DATA object [RFC =
2750] which=20
    can be used to authenticate users and applications.  =20
   =20
5.  References=20
   =20
   [RFC 2750]    Herzog S., "RSVP Extensions for Policy Control", RFC =
2750,=20
                 January 2000.=20
  =20
   [RFC 2752]    Yadav S., et al. "Identity Representation for RSVP", =
RFC=20
                 2752, January 2000.=20
   =20
   [RFC 2753]    Yavatkar R., et al. "A Framework for Policy-based =
Admission=20
                 Control", RFC 2753, January 2000.=20


   [RFC 2872]	Bernet, Y. and Pabbati, R., "Application and Sub =
Application=20
                Identity Policy Element for Use with RSVP", RFC 2872, =
June=20
                2000.
  =20
   [RTP Profile] Schulzrinne and Casner "RTP Profile for Audio and =
Video=20
                  Conferences with Minimal Control",=20
                  draft-ietf-avt-profile-new-08.txt, January 2000.=20



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6.  Acknowledgments=20
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    The authors would like to thank Yoram Bernet, Kwok-Ho Chan, Ron =
Pashby and=20
    Eric Edwards for their input into the creation of this document.=20
   =20
7.  Author's Addresses=20
   =20
    Ralph Santitoro=20
    Nortel Networks=20
    4100 Guardian Street=20
    Simi Valley, CA 93063=20
    Phone: 805-527-3024=20
    Email: rsantito@nortelnetworks.com=20
    =20
    Ramesh Pabbati=20
    Microsoft=20
    1 Microsoft Way=20
    Redmond, WA  98054=20
    Phone: 425-936-9438=20
    Email: rameshpa@microsoft.com=20
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Hi,

I regret the delay in responding to these comments. I have addressed all the
points raised by Andrew below. A new version of the draft has been submitted
last week. More comments inline.

Andrew Smith writes:

 > 2. Scope: there is no reason to tie RSVP proxy to NULL service; no reason to
 > tie it to DiffServ/DSCPs: instead, should use generic examples of wanting to
 > replace or add RSVP objects. No reason to include discussion of SBM here. No
 > reason to tie the mechanism to outsourced policy management: this should be
 > described as a general mechanism for RSVP.
Fixed. The wording has been modified to address this.
 > 
 > 3. Subflows? what is this all about?
This has been removed.

 > 
 > 4. The draft talks about "generation of the Resv message": are we talking
 > about individual messages or installation of state here? I always thought
 > that RSVP messages were just a mechanism to install/refresh/delete state in
 > intermediate and terminal nodes. I think this draft uses the wrong model for
 > what is being done here.
Clarified in detail what we're talking about.

 > 
 > 5. Section 3: the discussion of where along the path to locate the proxy
 > function does not give much help. I think this discussion is outside the
 > scope (yes, it is a policy or configuration issue).
 > 
 > 6. Section 3.1: There is no need to specify all those details of RSVP
 > message syntax and rules: the behaviour of what goes in a RESV message is
 > already defined by RFC2205.
This section (3.1) has been removed.

 > 
 > 7. Section 3.2: what is special about SBMs? yes, you have to have the proxy
 > at the right point along the path: same issue exists with pure RSVP.
Fixed. 

 > 
 > 8. Section 5: should not be making any changes to RSVP recommendations here.
Agreed. Fixed to reflect issues raised by RFC2205.

 > 
 > 9. Section 6: IPR - still waiting to see these claims: I do not think it is
 > appropriate to forward this as an RFC with this still pending.
We have submitted a statement to IETF that Steve Coya indicated would be posted
on IETF's web page.

Dinesh
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This draft is a work item of the Resource Reservation Setup Protocol Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: RSVP  Proxy
	Author(s)	: S. Gai, D. Dutt, N. Elfassy, Y. Bernet
	Filename	: draft-ietf-rsvp-proxy-01.txt
	Pages		: 8
	Date		: 19-Jul-00
	
RSVP has been extended in several directions [POLICY], [RSVP-APPID],
[DCLASS], [AGGRRSVP], [RSVPDIFF]. These extensions have broadened the
applicability of RSVP characterizing it as a signaling protocol
usable both inside and outside the Integrated Services [INTSERV]
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With the addition of the 'Null Service Type' [NULLSERV], RSVP is
also being adopted by mission critical applications that require some
form of prioritized service, but cannot quantify their resource
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end-to-end, but that are 'proxied' by a network node on the data path
between the sender and the receiver(s).  
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(not to the protocol itself) in which an intermediate network node
originates the Resv message on behalf of the receiver(s) identified
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Subject: CFP Special Session on Interworking of Diffserv, RSVP and MPLS
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                             CALL FOR PAPERS

Special Session on Interworking of Diffserv, RSVP and
MPLS for achieving QoS in the Internet

Twelfth IASTED International Conference on
Parallel and Distributed Computing and Systems (PDCS
2000)
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
November 6-9, 2000

http://www.iasted.com/conferences/2000/lasvegas/pdcscfp.htm

(Submission Deadline:  August 14, 2000)



Scope:
The traffic on the Internet is increasingly changing 
from  best-effort  to  time-sensitive   however  the 
Internet  is   not   ready yet  for supporting  this 
changing  traffic. IETF (Internet  Engineering  Task 
Force) is developing   new protocols  and techniques 
for supporting  QoS (Quality of Service) in  private 
networks as well  as the  global Internet. Among the 
new protocols, RSVP provides quantitative guarantees 
to each  flow whereas  Diffserv provides qualitative 
assurances  by   using  PHB (per  hop  behavior) for 
packets marked with DSCP (DS  codepoints). MPLS  has 
been   developed  to  accelerate  routing of traffic 
aggregates destined towards a common point by  using 
LSP (Label Switched Paths) so that  the intermediate 
routers do not have to make a routing decision. MPLS 
also leverages the cost of ATM  switches  by mapping 
LSP's to VPI/VCI for IP over ATM.

A special session on Interworking of these protocols 
will be organized at the PDCS 2000  conference. This 
session will serve as a forum to  present the latest 
research   and   simulation   results  of  works  by 
international  researchers,  developers, and  users.  
Topics of interest include, but are not limited to:

* Integrated operation of Intserv and Diffserv  for 
  edge-to-edge QoS flows
* Aggregation of flows for scaling of RSVP
* VoIP performance over Diffserv networks
* Traffic Engineering Architecture for the Internet
* Jitter characteristics in a Diffserv domain
* Scheduling at nodes in a Diffserv domain
* Mapping ATM CoS to Diffserv 
* Voice over MPLS
* Performance of RSVP-MPLS architecture
* FR/MPLS Network and service interworking
* Inter-provider MPLS signaling and LSP routing
* COPS Policy Server/Bandwidth Broker implementation 
  issues

Paper Submission
Submission    should   include   authors      names, 
affiliations, addresses and email addresses, on the  
cover page.  Submission implies the willingness  of 
at least one of the authors to register and present 
the paper.  Please submit full paper, not exceeding  
10 pages  in  length (single-space) in  PS  or  PDF 
format for  consideration, to  session organizer at 
zubairi@cs.fredonia.edu   by   August 14, 2000  via 
email.  Include up to 5 keywords and an abstract of 
no  more  than   250 words.  On  a  separate sheet, 
include  paper's  title,   author(s)  names     and 
affiliation, postal address, email, fax, and  phone 
numbers.  Indicate address for correspondence.

Proceedings
All papers selected for this session by peer-review 
process   will be published  in  the      PDCS'2000 
conference proceedings through IASTED Press, USA.

Session Organizer:
Dr. Junaid Ahmed Zubairi
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
College at Fredonia, State University of New York,
Fredonia, NY 14063, USA
Tel: +1-716-673-4694
(During summer 2000,Tel: 00-603-2056-4552)
Fax: +1-508-256-8324
Email: zubairi@cs.fredonia.edu
WWW: http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~zubairi

Important Dates:
Draft Papers due on: August 14, 2000
Notification of Acceptance: August 22, 2000
Final Manuscripts and 
Preregistration due on: September 15, 2000

If you have questions concerning session paper 
submission or  session content, please contact 
the special  session  organizer at the address
above.  

If you have questions concerning conference 
paper submissions or program, please contact 
Conference Program Co-Chairs: Dr. M. Guizani, 
University of West Florida, USA, 
mguizani@cs.uwf.edu or X. Shen, University of 
Missouri-Kansas City, USA, xshen@cstp.umkc.edu.  
For further information, see conference web site at 
http://www.iasted.com/conferences/2000/lasvegas/pdcs.htm.
 

For more information about IASTED or PDCS 2000, 
please contact:  IASTED Secretariat PDCS 2000, #80, 
4500 16th Avenue NW, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, T3B 0M6
, 
Tel: 403-288-1195, Fax: 403-247-6851, 
Email: calgary@iasted.com, Web: www.iasted.com.  

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Natalia Syracuse

On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Ralph Santitoro wrote:

> Please post the attached ID on the Internet Drafts Servers for
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> 
> DATE: July 2000
> 
> EXPIRES: January 2001
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The IESG has approved the Internet-Draft 'RSVP Refresh Overhead
Reduction Extensions' <draft-ietf-rsvp-refresh-reduct-05.txt> as a
Proposed Standard.  This document is the product of the Resource
Reservation Setup Protocol Working Group.  The IESG contact persons are
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Technical Summary
 
 This document describes a number of mechanisms that can be used in RSVP to
  reduce processing overhead requirements of refresh messages, eliminate the
  state synchronization latency incurred when an RSVP message is lost and,
  when desired, refreshing state without the transmission of whole refresh
  messages.  The same extensions also support reliable RSVP message delivery
  on a per hop basis.  These extension present no backwards compatibility
  issues.

Working Group Summary

  This document received a careful review by the RSVP working group.  The
  issues with the document have been resolved in this version.

Protocol Quality

  This document was reviewed for the IESG by Scott Bradner

Note to RFC Editor:

  Please remove the "Changes from previous version:" section.



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Please feel free to circulate this following :

	- call for papers of <bold>ICN'01</bold> (see
<underline><color><param>0000,0000,fefe</param>http://iutsun1.colmar.uha.fr/=
ICN01.html</color></underline>
) AND=20

	- final program of <bold>ECUMN'00</bold>  (see=
 <underline><color><param>0000,0000,fefe</param>http://iutsun1.colmar.uha.fr=
/ECUMN2000.html</color></underline> )

to interested colleagues.

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<center><bold>     CALL FOR PAPERS=20

IEEE International Conference on Networking=20

ICN'01=20

July 11-13, 2001 - CREF, Colmar, France=20

</bold></center>

GENERAL INFORMATION=20


The 2001 International Conference on Networking (ICN'01) is sponsored by=
 IEEE/Comsoc, IEEE/Computer, by IEE, by SEE and by WSES. ICN'01 is organized=
 by academic, research and industrial societies will be held at the=
 Technical Institute, Colmar, part of the University of Haute Alsace,=
 France, from Wednesday July 11, 2001 to Friday July 13, 2001. The city of=
 Colmar is ideally situated in the eastern part of France, near the German=
 and Swiss borders. The city of Colmar has been working on its own=
 Metropolitan Area Network (MAN) project, called OASICE, including LAN=
 interconnection, PBX interconnection and interactive video. An exhibition=
 illustrating these topics will be organized for industrial companies and=
 development research institutes.=20

In order to encourage closer interaction between academic and industrial ATM=
 research communities, we solicit both academic research papers and=
 industrial contributions.=20


TOPICS OF SPECIAL INTEREST=20


Topics of interest include, but are not limited to the following:=20

 =20

  Communications switching and routing =20

Communications modeling =20

Communications security =20

Computer communications =20

Multimedia and multicast communications =20

Internet environment =20

Network Management and control =20

Quality of Service (IntServ, DiffServ, =85) =20

Wireless Communications (Satellite, WLL, 3G) =20

Voice over IP =20

Java, Tina, Corba architectures Network signaling =20

ATM networks =20

ATM/IP integration =20

Integrated services =20

Traffic engineering =20

Telecommunication networks architectures =20

Performance evaluation, simulation =20

Mobile agents, active and intelligent networks =20

Applications and case studies =20

Protocol design and evaluation =20

MPLS=20



These topics can be discussed in term of concepts, state of the art,=
 standards, implementations, running experiments and applications.=20


INSTRUCTIONS FOR AUTHORS=20


Mail four papers or E-mail preferably in Word 6 format, or alternately a=
 postscript version of a 2000-word extended abstract summarizing an original=
 work. All the manuscripts must be written in English. The top of the first=
 page of each paper should include the title of the paper, authors' name,=
 position, address, telephone and fax numbers, e-mail of the author=
 responsible for correspondence and a list of four keywords. The deadline=
 for submission of all extended abstracts is December 10, 2000 with=
 notification of acceptance by February 20, 2001. Submission of camera-ready=
 paper is by March 30, 2001.=20

Authors of accepted papers will be invited to submit full-length manuscripts=
 for inclusion in the proceedings with ISBN.=20


All submitted papers should be sent to the following address:=20


Pascal LORENZ=20

University of Haute Alsace=20

IUT - Department GTR=20

34 rue du Grillenbreit=20

68008 Colmar, France=20

Phone: 33 (0)389202366 Fax: 33 (0)389202359 Mobile: 33 (0)603658042=20

E-mail: lorenz@colmar.uha.fr=20


Check our Web page at=
 <underline><color><param>0000,0000,fefe</param>http://iutsun1.colmar.uha.fr=
/ICN01.html</color></underline> for the latest information concerning the=
 conference.=20

Best papers will be forwarded for consideration in a special issue of a=
 journal.=20


TUTORIALS AND WORKSHOPS=20


Tutorials and workshops provide overviews of current high interest topics.=
 Proposals for half of full day tutorials are due by December 10, 2000.=20


INTERNATIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE=20


R. Addie (Australia) - University of Southern Queensland=20

K. Begain (Jordan) - Mu'tah University=20

A. Benslimane (France) - University of Belfort-Montbeliard=20

B. Bing (Singapore) - Ngee Ann Polytechnic=20

D. Bonjour (France) - CNET=20

A. Brandwajn (USA) - University of California Santa Cruz=20

J.P. Coudreuse (France) =96 Mitsubishi=20

J. Crowcroft (UK) =96 University College London=20

S. Fdida (France) =96 LIP6=20

B. Gavish (USA) - Vanderbilt University=20

H. Guyennet (France) - University of Franche-Comte=20

J. Halpern (USA) =96 Newbridge=20

Z. Hulicki (Poland) =96 University of Cracow=20

R. Israel (France) - IEEE=20

A. Jajszczyk (Poland) - University of Mining & Metallurgy=20

A. Jamalipour (Australia) - University of Sydney=20

S. Kota (USA) - Lockeed Martin=20

D. Kouvatsos (UK) - University of Bradford=20

S. Kumar (USA) =96 Ericsson=20

G.S. Kuo (Taiwan) =96 National Central University=20

F. Le Faucheur (France) - Cisco=20

M. Lee (Korea) =96 Dongshin University=20

P. Lorenz (France) - University of Haute Alsace=20

H.. Mouftah (Canada) - Queen's University=20

G. Omidyar (USA) - Computer Sciences Corp.=20

J.J. Pansiot (France) - University of Strasbourg=20

M. Potts (Switzerland) - Martel=20

Z. Mammeri (France) - University of Toulouse=20

N. Mastorakis (Greece) - Military Institutions of University Education=20

S. Moyer (USA) - Bellcore=20

R. Muraine (France) - Newbridge=20

G. Pujolle (France) - University of Versailles-Saint-Quentin=20

S. Rao (Switzerland) - Ascom=20

A. Reid (UK) - British Telecom=20

S. Ritzenthaler (France) - Newbridge=20

P. Rolin (France) - ENST Bretagne=20

R. Saracco (Italy) - CSELT=20

G. Swallow (USA) - Cisco=20

H. Tobiet (France) =96 Clemessy=20

M. Trehel (France) =96 University of Franche-Comte=20

V.A. Villagra (Spain) =96 University of Madrid=20

E. Vazquez Gallo (Spain) =96 University of Madrid=20

O. Yang (Canada) - University of Ottawa=20


IMPORTANT DATES=20


Extended Abstract due: December 10, 2000=20

Notification of acceptance: February 20, 2001=20

Deadline for full-length camera-ready manuscript: March 30, 2001=20


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<center><bold>1st IEEE European Conference on Universal Multiservice=
 Networks  ECUMN'2000

 October 2-4, 2000 - CREF, Colmar, France

FINAL PROGRAM

</bold></center>=20

08:30 - 18:30 Conference Registration


<underline>Monday October 2, 2000

</underline>

09:00 - 09:20 Opening Address=20


09:20 - 10:30 Tutorial Session 1

Internet Services over Mobile and Wireless Networks: Architectures and=
 Protocols

G. Omidyar, Computer Sciences Corp., USA ; M.J. Montpetit, Teledesic LLC,=
 USA


10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break


11:00 - 12:15 Network Architecture and Convergence

Chair: S. Ritzenthaler, Newbridge, France


MPLS and Next Generation Access Network

A. Kankkunen, Integral Access Inc, USA


Deutsche Telekom's View on Network Convergence

L. Falkenhagen Deutsche Telekom AG, Germany


A Functional Architecture for End-to-end Quality-of-Service in a=
 Multi-domain Network

E. Pagani, G.P. Rossi, University of Milano, Italy


12:15 - 13:00 Panel Discussion 1 - Network Evolution and Convergence


13:00 - 14:30 Lunch


14:30 - 16:15 Traffic=20

Chair: M. Villen, Telefonica I+D, Spain


The Relevance of the Bufferless Analysis for Traffic Management in=
 Telecommunication Networks

G. Hasslinger, F. Hartleb, Telekom Innovations-GmbH, Germany ; M. Fiedler,=
 University of Karlskrona/Ronneby, Sweden


Mapping of Loss and Delay Between IntServ and DiffServ

T. Chahed, G. H=E9buterne, C. Fayet, National Institute of=
 Telecommunications, France


Resource Demand of Aggregated Resource Reservations

J. Ehrensberger, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Switzerland


Characterization of the MPEG-2 Video Traffic Generated by DVD Applications

A. Chodorek, Kielce University of Technology, Poland ; R. Chodorek,=
 University of Mining and Metallurgy, Poland


14:30 - 16:15 Interworking between narrow band and broadband networks

Chair: S. Chakraborty, Technical University of Helsinki, Finland


Integrating Euro-ISDN with ATM Technology: Interworking Mechanisms and=
 Services Support

L. Mandalos, K. Leonidou, C. Andreopoulos, J. Drakos, S. Koubias, G.=
 Papadopoulos, University of Patras, Greece


Extending the Internet with the Intelligent Network Capabilities

B. El Ouahidi, M. Bouhdadi, University of Rabat, Morocco ; D. Bourget, ENST,=
 France


A Suitable Service Discipline for ATM-Ethernet Interconnection

J.M. Arco, D. Meziat, B. Alarcos, University of Alcala, Spain


Interoperability of ATM-Ethernet Interworking System: Design and Congestion=
 Control

R. Ouni, A. Soudani, S. Nasri, M. Abid, R. Tourki, University of Monastir,=
 Tinisia ; K. Torki, INPG, France


16:15 - 16:45 Coffee Break


16:45 - 18:30 Routing

Chair: P. Chemouil, France Telecom R&D, France


Adaptive Routing and Load Balancing of Ephemeral Connections

M. Heusse, ENST de Bretagne, France


A new Multi-Services Rerouting Algorithm

A. Gueroui, University of Versailles, France ; L. Mokdad University of=
 Dauphine, France ; J. Ben-Othman University of Paris 6, France


Extending Mobile IP-v6 with Multicast to Support Mobile Networks in  IPv6

T. Ernst, C. Castelluccia, INRIA Rh=F4ne-Alpes, France ; H.Y. Lach, Motorola=
 Labs, France


16:45 - 18:30 Interworking between IP and ATM

Chair: M. Potts, Martel, Switzerland


Topology Optimization of IP over ATM

L. Frelechou, M. Osborne, R. Haas, IBM Research, Switzerland


Resource Reservation with Boomerang via Open Interfaces

M. Maliosz, Budapest University of Technology and Economics, Hungary


Efficient Translation of Network Performance Parameters for Transport of IP=
 Packets over Cell-Switched Subnetworks

J. Schmitt, M. Karsten, R. Steinmetz, Darmstadt University of Technology,=
 Germany


Design of Adaptive Access Network and Control Protocol

H. Nakagawa, I. Kazunari, N. Ohta, NTT Information Sharing Platform=
 Laboratories, Japan


19:15 Reception - Town Hall


<underline>Tuesday October 3, 2000

</underline>

09:00 - 10:45 End to end traffic Control (1)

Chair: U. Krieger, Deutsche Telecom, Germany


Guaranteed QoS for TCP flows in ATM-based DiffServ Networks

T. M=FCller, Dresden University of Technology, Germany


Virtual Buffering Strategy for GFR Services in IP/ATM Internetworks

S.C. Hu, Ming Shin Institute of Technology, Taiwan ; P.C. Wang, Y.C. Chen,=
 National Chiao Tung University, Taiwan ; C.T. Chan, Chunghwa Telecom,=
 Taiwan


An Efficient Weight Assignment Process for GPS Servers

G. Urvoy, PRISM, France ; G. Hebuterne, Institut National des=
 T=E9l=E9communications, France


Some Aspects of RTP - TCP Coexistence in Universal Multiservice  Networks

R. Chodorek, University of Mining and Metallurgy, Poland


09:00 - 10:45 Mobile Networks and Mobile Services

Chair: G. Omidyar, Computer Sciences Corp, USA


Voice Enabled Request and Response for Mobile Devices Supporting WAP=
 Protocol: the Constraints

A. Mohan, Himachal Futuristic Communications, India ; A. Mohan, Indian=
 Institute of Technology, India


IP based enhanced Data Casting Services over Radio Broadcast Networks

W. Kellerer, P. Sties, J. Ebersp=E4cher, Munich University of Technology,=
 Germany


Location-Dependant and Value Added Services (VAS) for Mobile Communications

P. Lorenz, University of Haute Alsace, France ; H. Tobiet, NMG, France=20


The IP Revolution and Potential gains for ISP/Mobile/Fixed Telephony=
 Operators in the Liberalization of Telecommunications

D. Vergados, D. Drakoulis, E. Vayias, J. Soldatos, N. Mitrou, National=
 Technical University of Athens, Greece


10:45 - 11:15 Coffee Break


11:15 - 13:00 Multicast

Chair: G. Girardi, CSELT, Italy


A Scalable Fault Tolerant Approach to Core Election in an Inter-Domain=
 Multicast Routing Environment

M.D.Ech-Cherif El Kettani, ENSIAS, Morocco; Y. Souissi, EMI, Morocco


A New Routing Algorithm for Delay-Constrained Dynamic Multicast

T. Asaka, NTT Service Integration Laboratories, Japan ; T. Miyoshi, Y.=
 Tanaka, Waseda University, Japan


Remote Time-Alignment of Interactive Services through Efficient Multicast=
 Algorithms

A. Borella, G. Cancellieri, University of Ancona, Italy


Key Establishment for IGMP Authentication in IP Multicast

T. Hardjono, B. Cain, Nortel Networks, USA


11:15 - 13:00 IP Test-beds

Chair: H. Tobiet, NMG, France


Real-Time Multimedia Services over Internet

A. Benslimane, Technical University of Belfort-Montb=E9liard, France


Telephony over IP: Theoretical Modelling and Lab Experiments

P. Senesi, P. Ferrabone, G. Gritella, R. Rinaldi, M. Siviero, CSELT, Italy


User-domain Multiservice Architecture for Wired and Wireless IP  Networks

L. Cheng, I. Marsic, The State University of New Jersey, USA


A Testbed Environment for the Performance Evaluation of Modular Network=
 Architectures

D. Maggiorini, E. Pagani, G.P. Rossi, University of Milano, Italy


13:00 - 14:30 Lunch


14:30 - 16:15 Modeling

Chair: G. H=E9buterne, INT, France


Estimation of the Renewal Function by Empiral Data - A Bayesian  Approach

N.M. Markovitch, Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia ; U.R. Krieger, T-Nova=
 Deutsche Telekom, Germany


Modeling Access Networks for Quality of Service

F. Duran, T. Lizambri, S. Wakid, National Institute of Standards and=
 Technology, USA ; D.R. Vaman, Megaxess, USA


Managing Wireless Internet Information of Electronic Advertising

E. Rashid, Y. Yoshioka, Hirosaki University, Japan ; Y. Nemoto, T. Nakamura,=
 Tohoku University, Japan


Performance Evaluation of a full Memory Multidestination Protocol for=
 Satellite Based Reliable Multicast with and without Local Recovery

H. Jianhua, K.R. Subramanian, Y. ZongKai, H. Ping, Nanyang Technological=
 University, Singapore


14:30 - 16:15 Tariffs and Bandwidth Allocation

Chair: P. Lorenz, University of Haute Alsace, France


INEDAC Project: A Tool to Calculate Interconnection Tariff based on a=
 Bottom-up Method

J.A. Portilla, K.D. Hackbarth, A.E. Garcia, University of Cantabria, Spain ;=
 R. W=F6hrl, F. Gonzalez, Institut f=FCr Kommunikationsdienste GmbH, Germany


Auction Method and its Performance in a Dynamic Bandwidth Allocation Service

E. Takahashi, Y. Tanaka, Waseda Universiy, Japan


Multivariable Feedforward Plus Feedback Control for Adapting MPEG Video=
 Streams to Variable Channel Bandwidth

H.F. Raynaud, M. Luong, University of Paris Nord, France


Robust Topology for Enterprise Networks against Diverse Tariff Structures

T. Miyoshi, K. Mouri, Y. Tanaka, Waseda University, Japan ; T. Asaka, NTT=
 Service Integration Laboratories, Japan


16:15 - 16:45 Coffee Break


16:45 - 18:30 End to end Traffic Control (2)

Chair: G. H=E9buterne, INT, France


An Architecture of QoS Services for a Core Internet Network over DTM

C.J. Barenco, Polytechnic University of Madrid, Spain ; A.A. Salona, J.I.=
 Moreno, University Carlos III of Madrid, Spain


Congestion Avoidance for Unicast and Multicast Traffic

A. Dracinschi, S. Fdida, University Pierre et Marie Curie, France


MPOA and QoS Support in LIS Internetworking Environments

I. Erturk, Kocaeli University, UK ; E. Stipidis, University of Sussex, UK


A Method for Increasing Throughput based on Packet Striping

F. Jacquet, M. Misson, IUT of Clermont-Ferrand, France


16:45 - 18:30 Advanced Networking

Chair: G.V. Morson, Cambridge Network, England


A New Network Service Environment using Active Network

K. Widoyo, T. Aoki, H. Yasuda, University of Tokyo, Japan


Adaptive Applications over Active Networks: Case Study on Layered Multicast

L. Yamamoto, G. Leduc, University of Li=E8ge, Belgium


Integrated Performance Monitoring of Client/Server Software

C. Steigner, J. Wilke, I. Wulff, University of Koblenz-Landau, Germany


Who needs Addresses ?

V. Guruprasad, IBM, USA


20:00 Gala Dinner - Restaurant Meistermann


<underline>Wednesday October 4, 2000

</underline>

09:00 - 10:00 Tutorial Session 2

Chair: P. Rolin, France Telecom R&D, France


Active Networks and its Management

M. Brunner, NEC Europe Ltd, Germany


10:00- 10:30 Coffee Break


10:30 - 11:45 New Architectures for New Services

Chair: A. Gravey, ENST-Bretagne, France


A Novel Architecture for Efficient Protocol Processing in High Speed=
 Communication Environments

G. Konstantoulakis, V. Nellas, C. Georgopoulos, T. Orphanoudakis, N. Zervos,=
 Ellemedia Technologies, Greece ; M. Steck, Hyperstone electronics GmbH,=
 Germany; D. Verkest, Interuniversity Microelectronics Centre (IMEC),=
 Belgium; G. Doumenis, D.Reisis, University of Athens, Greece; N. Nikolaou,=
 J.A. Sanchez, Lucent Technologies, The Netherlands


Using T=E9l=E9domotis Interface for a new Multiservice Network applied to=
 Monitoring the Elderly

T. Val, E. Campo, IUT of Blagnac, France ; P. Kauffmann, M. Misson,=
 University of Clermont II, France ; P.Y. Danet, France T=E9l=E9com R&D,=
 France


Video and Interactive Internet access in a DVB Network

R. Jaeger, BetaResearch, Germany


11:45 - 13:00 Panel Discussion 2 - New Architectures for New Services


13:00 - 14:30 Lunch


14:30 Visit of Vialis






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I am currently doing Project in RSVP. This protocol has been implemented
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Hello,

You may remember that I sent you an email a few weeks ago regarding the MPLS
conference I was working on. Well, I have now finished and printed the
prorgamme and I would like to thank all of you who helped with my research
or have agreed to speak. The conference will run the 25th-28th of September
in London for full details please see the website
www.iir-conferences.com/mpls

Many Thanks 

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Senior Conference Producer, Transmission Events
IIR Telecoms & Technology 
0044 20 7915 5146
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  There is one application called vat which uses RSVP but the one i
downloded from the site uses SCRAPI Interface whereas the RSVP protocol
code for the linux distribution provides just RAPI Interface


That is:
   for the vat tool when u do <make> 
              it says scrapi.h file not found.

and the in the source code of RSVP there is no such file.The source code
which i have is the Linux distribution of RSVP on the 

www.isi.edu/rsvp site and the s/w vat using rsvp is also taken from this
site.



what do i need to do to run the application on RSVP. I have the rsvp
deamon running on the machine which is Linux.


Please tell me where i can find proper documentation for installing the
software.


Or please tell me the necessary changes or modifications.


Thanks a lot.

Prasanna

                 
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