From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Oct 1 18:11:49 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA12709 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27658 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27652 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21107; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 13:24:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200010012024.NAA21107@boreas.isi.edu> To: lixia@cs.ucla.edu, ajd1@monmouth.com Subject: Re: routing PATH messages Cc: rsvp@ISI.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> *> Thanks for your response to my earlier question. I have a followup *> question: *> We have 2 paths from a source router to a destination router - *> ths ospf determined preferred path and an alternate path. *> We have identical policies in place to force BOTH rsvp signalling *> messages and associated udp data along the alternate path. *> The routers obey the policy for udp data and send it along the *> alternate path but ignore the policy for rsvp signalling and *> send it over the ospf determined path. *> The routers accept the policy commands for protocol 46, I can see that *> the policy gets installed in the router, but the *> policy for protocol 46 gets ignored in the implementation. *> The router vendor claims that rfc 2205 dictates that the RSVP signalling *> messages MUST follow the ospf determined path (the nextHop with the *> best metric) which I am trying to dispute. Am I correct in assuming that *> your response to my earlier question supports my stance on this issue? *> *> I have lost track of whether this was ever answered. I don't get the distinction between "policy" and "ospf-determined path". It's all routing, from RSVP's viewpoint. What RFC2205 DOES dictate is that Path messages must follow the same route as the data, however that is determined. So yes, you are correct. Bob Braden From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Oct 1 23:11:23 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id XAA17196 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05792 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05787 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15962; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200010020104.SAA15962@boreas.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, Supriya.Saripalli@Clarent.com Subject: Re: RSVP and RAS messages... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Sep 28 14:33:11 2000 *> From: Supriya Saripalli *> To: "Rsvp (E-mail)" *> Subject: RSVP and RAS messages... *> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:25:02 -0700 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) *> Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Precedence: bulk *> X-Lines: 15 *> *> Hi all, *> *> Could anybody of you let me know if theres any significance of RAS messages *> in the QoS routing i.e. for example in the Signalling protocol like RSVP.. *> *> Since RAS channel is used to convey the registration,admission and status *> messages and bandwidth changes in between H323 end points.. *> So was wondering if it plays a role in the path messages in RSVP protocol *> for requesting th e bandwidth.... *> *> Thanks in advance, *> *> Supriya *> Clarent Corp. *> *> RSVP handles only the low-level application-independent signaling necessary to plant state in the routers. In complex applications like H.323, I would expect there would be an application-specific (the app being H.323 in this case) signaling protocol at work. This app-specific protocol would operate between the ends of the session, without appearing at the intermediate routers. RSVP has the task of spreading the final QoS state across the data path. 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From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Oct 8 06:05:18 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA07781 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 06:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA11186 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 00:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11181 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 00:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02477 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 00:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liu (nusnet-166-173.dynip.nus.edu.sg [137.132.166.173]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e987xRl09991 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:59:27 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: <013101c030fd$c48232a0$ada68489@nus.edu.sg> From: "Liu Xiaoyun" To: Subject: Hi Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:00:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012E_01C03140.D283E0E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C03140.D283E0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, everyone, Could anyone tell me whether the length of the RSVP messages is defined=20 or not. 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------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C03140.D283E0E0-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Tue Oct 10 14:37:15 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA10074 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24924 for rsvp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24918 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.68.6]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14976 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com [169.144.2.12]) by mailgate.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29085; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.com (dcharlap-pc.dc.fore.com [169.144.136.107]) by mailman.pit.comms.marconi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14947; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39E34B75.11BFCC23@marconi.com> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:01:41 -0400 From: David Charlap X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liu Xiaoyun CC: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Hi References: <013101c030fd$c48232a0$ada68489@nus.edu.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Liu Xiaoyun wrote: > > Hello, everyone, > > Could anyone tell me whether the length of the RSVP messages is > defined or not. Please reply to engp9264@nus.edu.sg. Not really. The lengh of an RSVP message is a function of the number and type of objects that it contains. Many object classes (like integrity and policy data) are optional. Others (like session) have multiple C-Types - any one of which may be used in a given message. Some objects (like session attributes) are of variable size. Some objects (like flowspecs) may appear multiple times in some messages. Lower limit sizes can be calculated based on the list of mandatory objects and the minimum sizes of these objects. You can also calculate typical sizes based on what kinds of objects you are likely to send and receive. 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Sun, 15 Oct 2000 01:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15068 for rsvp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15063 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11141; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200010150350.UAA11141@boreas.isi.edu> To: engp9264@nus.edu.sg, rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Hi X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Oct 8 01:15:16 2000 *> From: "Liu Xiaoyun" *> To: *> Subject: Hi *> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:00:04 +0800 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012E_01C03140.D283E0E0" *> X-Priority: 3 *> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal *> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 *> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 *> Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Precedence: bulk *> X-Lines: 42 *> Content-Length: 1353 *> *> Hello, everyone, *> *> Could anyone tell me whether the length of the RSVP messages is defined *> or not. Please reply to engp9264@nus.edu.sg. *> Thanks a lot. *> *> Xiaoyun The length of an RSVP message is determined by the contents of the particular message. Do you mean, is there a maximum length? The size of an RSVP message is limited to the largest IP datagram that can be sent, approximately 65KB. 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Or is that on any machine which runs some application requiring RSVP, then we have to run the RSVP deamon on it??? Thanx in advance Pras _____________________________ _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_|; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28374 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28359 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02812; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200010221740.KAA02812@boreas.isi.edu> To: isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU, prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in Subject: Re: Question reagrding API X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in Sun Oct 22 03:50:35 2000 *> X-Authentication-Warning: helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in: prasanna owned process doing -bs *> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:20:18 +0530 (IST) *> From: Gaitonde Anandprasanna *> To: isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Subject: Question reagrding API *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> X-Lines: 44 *> *> *> I wanted to know the following : *> *> Can the client application of RSVP run on one machine and the RSVP desmon *> run on another machine to which this client talks?? *> *> Or is that on any machine which runs some application requiring RSVP, then *> we have to run the RSVP deamon on it??? *> *> *> Thanx in advance *> *> Pras *> *> The protocol does not care. The normal expectation is that the client application will be on the same machine as RSVP (e.g., because you need to set up QoS in the end system as well as routers), but the protocol does not require this. Bob Braden *> *> *> _____________________________ *> _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ *> / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ *> / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ *> / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ *> _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ *> (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_| (\\\\ \_/ /LAB Ph.(080)3092906 \ \_/ ////) *> \ /HOSTEL Ph.- \ / *> \ _/ (080)3092452 \_ / *> / /-----------------------------\ \ *> / Email Id- \ *> / prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in \ *> --------------------------------------------- *> ----------------------------------------------- *> *> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *> *> ************************************************************************* *> | | | | __ ___ _____ __ _ _ __ (_) ___ ___ __| | __ _ _ _ *> | |_| |/ _` \ \ / / _ \ / _` | | '_ \| |/ __/ _ \ / _` |/ _` | | | | *> | _ | (_| |\ V / __/ | (_| | | | | | | (_| __/ | (_| | (_| | |_| | *> |_| |_|\__,_| \_/ \___| \__,_| |_| |_|_|\___\___| \__,_|\__,_|\__, | *> ************************************************************************* *> *> *> *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Sun Oct 22 16:21:35 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA11244 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00634 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venera.isi.edu (venera.isi.edu [128.9.176.32]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00612 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.8]) by venera.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12312; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:prasanna@helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.46]) by csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11361; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:05:15 +0530 Received: from localhost (prasanna@localhost) by helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA16197; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:07:03 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in: prasanna owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:07:02 +0530 (IST) From: Gaitonde Anandprasanna To: isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Question about Propogation delay for GS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Well one doubt rose in my mind when i as going thru the code of RSVP. Well the latency values etc are calculted by the demon based on the information it reads from the TC components in the kernel during RSVP initialisation. But no where do i find any mention of the propogation delay being taken into account for Guranteed service. That is if the link connecting two routers is quite long then there will be some Propogation delay which needs to be considered while making caculations for Guranteed Service as the guranteed service has to gurantee an end to end delay bound. Please let me know as to how this issue is handled in the implementation or whether RSVP does not care about the Propogation delay??? Thanx in advance Yours sincerely Pras _____________________________ _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_|; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15457 for rsvp-outgoing; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15442 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from braden@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04244; Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Message-Id: <200010230235.TAA04244@boreas.isi.edu> To: isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU, prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in Subject: Re: Question about Propogation delay for GS X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in Sun Oct 22 11:39:03 2000 *> X-Authentication-Warning: helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in: prasanna owned process doing -bs *> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:07:02 +0530 (IST) *> From: Gaitonde Anandprasanna *> To: isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Subject: Question about Propogation delay for GS *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> X-Lines: 52 *> *> *> Well one doubt rose in my mind when i as going thru the code of RSVP. *> *> Well the latency values etc are calculted by the demon based on the *> information it reads from the TC components in the kernel during RSVP *> initialisation. *> But no where do i find any mention of the propogation delay being *> taken into account for Guranteed service. That is if the link connecting *> two routers is quite long then there will be some Propogation delay which *> needs to be considered while making caculations for Guranteed Service as *> the guranteed service has to gurantee an end to end delay bound. *> *> Please let me know as to how this issue is handled in the implementation *> or whether RSVP does not care about the Propogation delay??? *> Please see the RFC on Guaranteed Service. This is not an RSVP question, it is an int-serv question. You could pose it on the int-serv@isi.edu mailing list. Bob Braden *> *> Thanx in advance *> *> Yours sincerely *> *> Pras *> *> *> *> *> _____________________________ *> _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ *> / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ *> / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ *> / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ *> _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ *> (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_| (\\\\ \_/ /LAB Ph.(080)3092906 \ \_/ ////) *> \ /HOSTEL Ph.- \ / *> \ _/ (080)3092452 \_ / *> / /-----------------------------\ \ *> / Email Id- \ *> / prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in \ *> --------------------------------------------- *> ----------------------------------------------- *> *> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *> *> ************************************************************************* *> | | | | __ ___ _____ __ _ _ __ (_) ___ ___ __| | __ _ _ _ *> | |_| |/ _` \ \ / / _ \ / _` | | '_ \| |/ __/ _ \ / _` |/ _` | | | | *> | _ | (_| |\ V / __/ | (_| | | | | | | (_| __/ | (_| | (_| | |_| | *> |_| |_|\__,_| \_/ \___| \__,_| |_| |_|_|\___\___| \__,_|\__,_|\__, | *> ************************************************************************* *> *> *> *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Mon Oct 23 10:16:42 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA13075 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08885 for rsvp-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08868 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csa.iisc.ernet.in (csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.8]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14184; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 05:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:prasanna@helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.46]) by csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20244; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:40:09 +0530 Received: from localhost (prasanna@localhost) by helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18589; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:41:58 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in: prasanna owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:41:57 +0530 (IST) From: Gaitonde Anandprasanna To: Bob Braden , isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU, rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Re: Question about licensing In-Reply-To: <200010221737.KAA02700@boreas.isi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Respected Sir, Thanks a lot for replying. But i want to make some things clear to me. Please tell me , if i use the existing code provided by the site ISI. and enhance it and then use it in my commercial Product which i want to sell then will there be any Problem or is there any condition for doing that?? And having done that, what is the status of the enhanced code? Please let me know Thanking You Yours sincerely Prasanna _____________________________ _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_| > *> From prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in Sun Oct 22 03:11:09 2000 > *> X-Authentication-Warning: helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in: prasanna owned process doing -bs > *> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 15:40:52 +0530 (IST) > *> From: Gaitonde Anandprasanna > *> To: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, isi-rsvp@ISI.EDU > *> Subject: Question about licensing > *> MIME-Version: 1.0 > *> X-Lines: 45 > *> > *> Respected Sirs, > *> > *> I am eager to know whether the existing code of RSVP Protocol which is > *> provided by U (ISI Distribution) has any licensing policy. > *> > *> I want to know whether it can be used for commercial purposes and what are > *> the conditions and implications under which it can??? > *> > *> Please let me know > *> > *> Thanking You in advnace > *> > *> Yours sincerely, > *> Prasanna > *> > *> > > The conditions are contained in the disclaimer code block in > every source module. When it says "any purpose", it includes > commercial. There are a number of commercial products based > on our code. > > Bob Braden > > *> > *> > *> _____________________________ > *> _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ > *> / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ > *> / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ > *> / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ > *> _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ > *> (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_| *> (\\\\ \_/ /LAB Ph.(080)3092906 \ \_/ ////) > *> \ /HOSTEL Ph.- \ / > *> \ _/ (080)3092452 \_ / > *> / /-----------------------------\ \ > *> / Email Id- \ > *> / prasanna@csa.iisc.ernet.in \ > *> --------------------------------------------- > *> ----------------------------------------------- > *> > *> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > *> > *> ************************************************************************* > *> | | | | __ ___ _____ __ _ _ __ (_) ___ ___ __| | __ _ _ _ > *> | |_| |/ _` \ \ / / _ \ / _` | | '_ \| |/ __/ _ \ / _` |/ _` | | | | > *> | _ | (_| |\ V / __/ | (_| | | | | | | (_| __/ | (_| | (_| | |_| | > *> |_| |_|\__,_| \_/ \___| \__,_| |_| |_|_|\___\___| \__,_|\__,_|\__, | > *> ************************************************************************* > *> > *> > *> > *> > From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Oct 25 11:20:54 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA24482 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13357 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13352 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02044 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liu (nusnet-166-173.dynip.nus.edu.sg [137.132.166.173]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9PDZnl12578 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:35:49 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: <00a701c03e88$82f45960$ada68489@nus.edu.sg> From: "Liu Xiaoyun" To: Subject: Hi Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:35:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C03ECB.90DD9DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C03ECB.90DD9DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, everyone, I have a question about RSVP. For a multicast session, a user joins the multicast group after the = multicast session has been initialized. I think that the user can only receive the path message at the latest refresh time. That is to say that the user may have to wait for a RSVP = refresh time to receive the path message. Am I right? Thanks a lot. Xiaoyun ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C03ECB.90DD9DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello, everyone,
 
I have a question about = RSVP.
For a multicast session, a user joins = the multicast=20 group after the multicast
session has been = initialized.
I think that the user can only receive = the path=20 message at the latest
refresh time. That is to say that the = user may have=20 to wait for a RSVP refresh time to = receive the=20 path message. Am I right?
 
Thanks a lot.
 
Xiaoyun
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C03ECB.90DD9DA0-- From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Oct 25 13:15:25 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id NAA11925 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA19187 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19182 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gra.isi.edu (gra.isi.edu [128.9.160.133]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA25461; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Braden Received: (from braden@localhost) by gra.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) id PAA21441; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:42:55 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:42:55 GMT Message-Id: <200010251542.PAA21441@gra.isi.edu> To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, engp9264@nus.edu.sg Subject: Re: Hi X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Oct 25 06:41:58 2000 *> From: "Liu Xiaoyun" *> To: *> Subject: Hi *> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:35:59 +0800 *> MIME-Version: 1.0 *> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01C03ECB.90DD9DA0" *> X-Priority: 3 *> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal *> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 *> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 *> Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU *> Precedence: bulk *> Content-Length: 2034 *> X-Lines: 60 *> *> Hello, everyone, *> *> I have a question about RSVP. *> For a multicast session, a user joins the multicast group after the multicast *> session has been initialized. *> I think that the user can only receive the path message at the latest *> refresh time. That is to say that the user may have to wait for a RSVP refresh time to receive the path message. Am I right? *> No, not in general. If the join is on a local broadcast LAN, then the node should already have path state. Otherwise, the join is a routing change that should trigger a "local repair", i.e., trigger the nearest node to send an immediate Path refresh. Bob Braden *> Thanks a lot. *> *> Xiaoyun *> From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Wed Oct 25 15:34:15 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA00776 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27190 for rsvp-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27185 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.8]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26768 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 10:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiter.csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@jupiter.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.42]) by csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18107; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:21:31 +0530 Received: from localhost (asarun@localhost) by jupiter.csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10240; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:23:22 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: jupiter.csa.iisc.ernet.in: asarun owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:23:22 +0530 (IST) From: A S Arun To: mpls@uu.net, rsvp@ISI.EDU Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk I am looking for a language by which policy can be entered There was one "policy Framework definition language" IETF Draft, Nov 1998, but is dormant now Are there any standard languages, Given a language I would write a compiler which would build the policy database, which would be searched as and when required. regards, ******************************************************************************* A.S.ARUN (Arun A Somasundara) 3rd Sem M.E. Room No. D-3 Computer Science & Engineering IISc Hostels Dept. of Computer Science & Automation Indian Institute of Science Bangalore - 560012 INDIA ******************************************************************************* From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Thu Oct 26 07:09:53 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu (zephyr.isi.edu [128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA21342 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA09618 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09613 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:root@csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.8]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05907 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in (IDENT:prasanna@helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.67.46]) by csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24535; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:42:01 +0530 Received: from localhost (prasanna@localhost) by helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29289; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:43:53 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: helios.csa.iisc.ernet.in: prasanna owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:43:53 +0530 (IST) From: Gaitonde Anandprasanna Reply-To: Gaitonde Anandprasanna To: rsvp@ISI.EDU, mpls@uu.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk I have the follwoing doubt about RSVP & RSVP-TE . On the edge router of an MPLS domain , the signalling mechanism should be able to identify and proceess both RSVP messages aswell as RSVP-TE messages . How to handle this. Does RSVP-TE handle RSVP messages ? Or should there be a rsvp desmon running on the edge router as well as rsvp-te deamon running. Also i wanted to know one thing. RSVP protocol is identified by protocol no 46 . How will be RSVP-TE protocol identified by IP layer. Please let me know. Thanx in advance Pras _____________________________ _ |ANANDPRASANNA GAITONDE | _ / )|COMP. SCIENCE & AUTOMATION |( \ / / |D-7,IISc HOSTEL | \ \ / / |INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE| \ \ _( (_ |BANGALORE-560012. | _) )_ (((\ \>|_/->___________________<-\_|; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 02:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27689 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27684 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stephens.ittc.ukans.edu (stephens.ittc.ukans.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00364 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plato.ittc.ukans.edu (plato.ittc.ukans.edu [129.237.125.75]) by stephens.ittc.ukans.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITTC-NOSPAM-1.0) with SMTP id AAA29960 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:02:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Karthikeyan Nathillvar Reply-To: ntkarthik@ittc.ukans.edu To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Clarification needed in RFC 2205 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:58:20 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00102700021200.06010@plato.ittc.ukans.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi In section 3.1.3 following paragraph is given. " Each RSVP-capable node along the path(s) captures a Path message and processes it to create path state for the sender defined by the SENDER_TEMPLATE and SESSION objects. Any POLICY_DATA, SENDER_TSPEC, and ADSPEC objects are also saved in the path state. If an error is encountered while processing a Path message, a PathErr message is sent to the originating sender of the Path message." how is it possible for the intermediate nodes to send path messages periodically??.. i am totally confused by this statement. Thanking you in advance, Karthikeyan Nathillvar Address: ------ Karthikeyan Nathillvar, Team Niehaus Graduate Research Assistant, ITTC, University of Kansas, 245 E, Nichols Hall, 2291 Irving Hill Road, Lawrence. Kansas - 66044 e-Mail: ntkarthik@ittc.ukans.edu From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Oct 27 03:44:06 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA09847 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27780 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27775 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stephens.ittc.ukans.edu (stephens.ittc.ukans.edu [129.237.125.220]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01054 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 22:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plato.ittc.ukans.edu (plato.ittc.ukans.edu [129.237.125.75]) by stephens.ittc.ukans.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITTC-NOSPAM-1.0) with SMTP id AAA29325 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:05:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Karthikeyan Nathillvar Reply-To: ntkarthik@ittc.ukans.edu To: rsvp@ISI.EDU Subject: Clarification needed in RFC 2205 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:03:20 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00102700051301.06010@plato.ittc.ukans.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, In section 3.1.3 following paragraph is given. "Periodically, the RSVP process at a node scans the path state to create new Path messages to forward towards the receiver(s). Each message contains a sender descriptor defining one sender, and carries the original sender's IP address as its IP source address. Path messages eventually reach the applications on all receivers; however, they are not looped back to a receiver running in the same application process as the sender." how is it possible for the intermediate nodes to send path messagesperiodically??.. i am totally confused by this statement. Thanking you in advance, Karthikeyan Nathillvar PS: in prev. mail i pasted wrong paragraph.. sorry about that.. Address: ------ Karthikeyan Nathillvar, Team Niehaus Graduate Research Assistant, ITTC, University of Kansas, 245 E, Nichols Hall, 2291 Irving Hill Road, Lawrence. Kansas - 66044 e-Mail: ntkarthik@ittc.ukans.edu From rsvp-owner@ISI.EDU Fri Oct 27 04:41:56 2000 Received: from zephyr.isi.edu ([128.9.160.160]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id EAA28321 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01697 for rsvp-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.isi.edu (gamma.isi.edu [128.9.144.145]) by zephyr.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01692 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by gamma.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21776 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.cs.ucla.edu (1Cust49.tnt12.sjc4.da.uu.net [63.39.139.49]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAB18342; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20001026233724.00d78b10@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: lixia@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:40:57 -0700 To: ntkarthik@ittc.ukans.edu, rsvp@ISI.EDU From: Lixia Zhang Subject: Re: Clarification needed in RFC 2205 In-Reply-To: <00102700051301.06010@plato.ittc.ukans.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-rsvp@ISI.EDU Precedence: bulk At 12:03 AM 10/27/00 -0500, Karthikeyan Nathillvar wrote: >hi, > In section 3.1.3 following paragraph is given. > "Periodically, the RSVP process at a node scans the path state > to create new Path messages to forward towards the receiver(s). > Each message contains a sender descriptor defining one sender, > and carries the original sender's IP address as its IP source > address. Path messages eventually reach the applications on > all receivers; however, they are not looped back to a receiver > running in the same application process as the sender." > >how is it possible for the intermediate nodes to send path >messagesperiodically??.. I think you were thinking how it'd be possible for intermediate nodes to *create* path msgs... End hosts send path msgs, which create path state at intermediate nodes. end hosts also send periodic refresh msgs to keep those states. instead of forwarding all path refresh msgs immediately, intermediate nodes create and send those refreshes periodically. hope this helps. 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Any *> POLICY_DATA, SENDER_TSPEC, and ADSPEC objects are also saved in *> the path state. If an error is encountered while processing a *> Path message, a PathErr message is sent to the originating *> sender of the Path message." *> *> how is it possible for the intermediate nodes to send path messages *> periodically??.. i am totally confused by this statement. *> Your question is confusing, since it seems to bear no obvious relation to the qouted paragraph. Therefore, I don't know what question I should be answering, but the direct answer to your question as posed would be: it it not only possible, it is fundamental. Once path state is installed in a particular node, the node forwards it, and thereafter the node periodically resends the same path state as refresh messages. Installation of state happens end-to-end, but refreshing is a hop/hop activity. 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