From nobody Fri Feb 3 12:49:53 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtg-open-source@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtg-open-source@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2721D129992 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:49:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q9NFJRZx1SBo for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x235.google.com (mail-yw0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C6BC12997F for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x235.google.com with SMTP id v200so19465765ywc.3 for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2SDHRsmmLsWkXHDc2C/yE4MzQl9rQNQnfkT0eyzyeME=; b=XXnV7GfQ0GYAbqUiC92LKoQD9RBqrK/r1owm8b43Mv4d09EAFb48hv1et79SuPkFcW nUu6m6av1COf0eVoEzBqhhLctZKgsqOynfYHlzKg0st6UKScV79wT2PyKGbN6aoctAC6 0FyT+raZnmipcFPMvAEYj8qE0RD1fT0tAMq4P2G31wRcP00WkB6jtDWl0ApVwsbwUddk N1KKy54dOHqx5UDF0BZe9LPLew6uDTg9CQPqP3aI0LyzR0Pjg31GaX6/8Kdh9Mk4jFPd r10+gAUvzAArAgfIDGx6xKMOVZ7TJ0f1jSb7vIMV8inxUI776qV1xH2WqfM7yd0oYFGM Vy2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2SDHRsmmLsWkXHDc2C/yE4MzQl9rQNQnfkT0eyzyeME=; b=MpQmlVoZFQqw44AT1buR4ljtMi28LR3efIJ25S053wf/BhyYwEh3DHL6WefTcjAPlg FMMbjfqVl/7n+p6cqrK6E7tynqxUPXXew0cocfXAgQHlezdK4EUBZCDH2O3g+alzIU9V ykXWxOEmsx479a448KNY2kC2hwSZFvAs3ZSfLKwrjCo5pgV41QT2O9FHDWUmLOuo6oJM axf0vFPA2qBWw6KyB9ViXKCBSMjZcjkCl9v4SWvlcy2flCsV65P4sASkjUkj6WMsjKF0 GZiZRKIT99km4FYWpNcovZQW0vtzAPhB4lzLkavtGrhug+P/GIrs7tHpbJaxbwo5r7AC RwsA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJCxlFaAM873XdDTXE2/klyOpz0pXz2jxdJcS6oelOyisDbgaVb8F0kLboVAPDcz8pXnW3Wala1tsEAaw== X-Received: by 10.129.40.9 with SMTP id o9mr10335733ywo.106.1486154989389; Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:49:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.50.2 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:49:48 -0800 (PST) From: Alia Atlas Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: rtg-open-source@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140973e396d610547a66cef Archived-At: Subject: [Rtg-open-source] rtg-open-source list and meeting at IETF 98 X-BeenThere: rtg-open-source@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion and collaboration for Open Source efforts related to the Routing Area List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:49:52 -0000 --001a1140973e396d610547a66cef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There hasn't been substantial discussion or coordination on the rtg-opens-source mailing list. We did meet in person at IETF 97 and there was a suggestion for having a more general meeting (non-WG forming BoF type thing) that would discuss different open source projects, their maturity, and deployed state and use. The BOF deadline is February 10 and I haven't heard of motion on this idea yet. Is it useful to consider meeting in person again at IETF 98? Is it sufficient to simply have this mailing list for discussion and coordination when necessary? Without enthusiasm expressed here, I'm not anticipating having a meeting at IETF 98. Regards, Alia --001a1140973e396d610547a66cef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There hasn't been substantial discussion or coord= ination on the rtg-opens-source mailing list.=C2=A0 We did meet in person a= t IETF 97 and there was a suggestion for having a more general meeting (non= -WG forming BoF type thing) that would discuss different open source projec= ts, their maturity, and deployed state and use.=C2=A0 The BOF deadline is F= ebruary 10 and I haven't heard of motion on this idea yet.
Is it useful to consider meeting in person again at IETF 98?= =C2=A0 Is it sufficient to simply have this mailing list for discussion and= coordination when necessary?

Without enthusiasm e= xpressed here, I'm not anticipating having a meeting at IETF 98.
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Regards,
Alia
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19:59:33 -0000 --001a114b2de4776b8105480a4d31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Charles, Thanks for the feedback. The last couple we've just gone around the room and done introductions. I'd rather see something more useful/interactive this time as well. I'm happy to approve (or request) a room and assume that Thursday breakfast would be the time, again. I'd be delighted to see some self-organization on the list around what would be useful to do or discuss. I'm happy to attend and listen and think about what can be usefully done for better integration, but I don't think that I can personally drive this community or the meetings and have them be beneficial. Regards, Alia On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: > Hi Alia, > > > > I think an in person meeting would be useful and will prioritize it in my > schedule if it occurs. > > I found our brief meeting at IETF 97 informative and a good use of time. > > > > Cheers, > > Charles > > > > > > *From: *Rtg-open-source on behalf of > Alia Atlas > *Date: *Friday, February 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM > *To: *"rtg-open-source@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[Rtg-open-source] rtg-open-source list and meeting at IETF 98 > > > > There hasn't been substantial discussion or coordination on the > rtg-opens-source mailing list. We did meet in person at IETF 97 and there > was a suggestion for having a more general meeting (non-WG forming BoF type > thing) that would discuss different open source projects, their maturity, > and deployed state and use. The BOF deadline is February 10 and I haven't > heard of motion on this idea yet. > > > > Is it useful to consider meeting in person again at IETF 98? Is it > sufficient to simply have this mailing list for discussion and coordination > when necessary? > > > > Without enthusiasm expressed here, I'm not anticipating having a meeting > at IETF 98. > > > > Regards, > > Alia > > --001a114b2de4776b8105480a4d31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Charles,

Thanks for the feedback. = =C2=A0 The last couple we've just gone around the room and done introdu= ctions.
I'd rather see something more useful/interactive this= time as well.=C2=A0 I'm happy to approve (or request)=C2=A0
= a room and assume that Thursday breakfast would be the time, again.

I'd be delighted to see some self-organization on the= list around what would be useful to do or discuss.

I'm happy to attend and listen and think about what can be usefully d= one for better integration, but
I don't think that I can pers= onally drive this community or the meetings and have them be beneficial.

Regards,
Alia

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Ch= arles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Alia,

=C2=A0

I think an in person meeting would be useful and wil= l prioritize it in my schedule if it occurs.

I found our brief meeting at IETF 97 informative and= a good use of time.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Charles

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

F= rom: Rtg-open-source <rtg-open= -source-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Date: Friday, February 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM
To: "rtg-open-source@ietf.org" <rtg-open-source@ietf.org>
Subject: [Rtg-open-source] rtg-open-source list and meeting at IETF = 98

=C2=A0

There hasn't been substantial discussion or coor= dination on the rtg-opens-source mailing list.=C2=A0 We did meet in person = at IETF 97 and there was a suggestion for having a more general meeting (no= n-WG forming BoF type thing) that would discuss different open source projects, their maturity, and deployed state and use= .=C2=A0 The BOF deadline is February 10 and I haven't heard of motion o= n this idea yet.

=C2=A0

Is it useful to consider meeting in person again at = IETF 98?=C2=A0 Is it sufficient to simply have this mailing list for discus= sion and coordination when necessary?

=C2=A0

Without enthusiasm expressed here, I'm not antic= ipating having a meeting at IETF 98.

=C2=A0

Regards,

Alia


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