From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Feb 3 06:55:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628201A0115; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 06:55:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dGQSnhhnvaSa; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E8A1A0032; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-02.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140203145539.14566.52226.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 06:55:39 -0800 Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:55:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Operational management of Loop Free Alternates Authors : Stephane Litkowski Bruno Decraene Clarence Filsfils Kamran Raza Martin Horneffer Pushpasis Sarkar Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-02.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2014-02-03 Abstract: Loop Free Alternates (LFA), as defined in RFC 5286 is an IP Fast ReRoute (IP FRR) mechanism enabling traffic protection for IP traffic (and MPLS LDP traffic by extension). Following first deployment experiences, this document provides operational feedback on LFA, highlights some limitations, and proposes a set of refinements to address those limitations. It also proposes required management specifications. This proposal is also applicable to remote LFA solution. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From stbryant@cisco.com Mon Feb 3 10:06:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF031A01CE for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:06:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7PAiSF_nkr-8 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88501A01C9 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1672; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1391450789; x=1392660389; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=avz1X4jktKQqHzAn1pDKK5veRy3/at+N5Niu6BJl//k=; b=GupJ+3TVkTabt8YukNP5O7Sa9SGe7Tc6efUdDkUsIZ9JPGsXtAE38SeD SB46cDrcLmIuWl7DOGmaZpAKsYn1Lfvxd0hRqMAzGirxnv4UI4JUajWRL rddXBxdJEFVMYonwm7YHl4OMxFhN/hy7GLDAYWYTMsM40jcOwvUMw2a1N I=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,773,1384300800"; d="scan'208";a="4599844" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2014 18:06:28 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s13I6RmI011231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:06:27 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id s13I6Pvv029457; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:06:26 GMT Message-ID: <52EFDAA1.5000807@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:06:25 +0000 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bharath R , "'stbryant@cisco.com'" <'stbryant@cisco.com'>, "rtgwg@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-remote-lfa@tools.ietf.org" , "imc.shand@gmail.com" , "cfilsfil@cisco.com" , "sprevidi@cisco.com" , "Ning.So@tatacommunications.com" Subject: Re: FW: Regarding cost based algorithm for finding Extended P-Space. References: <3304a77779394ac4a73c27a1ce1f4680@BY2PR05MB568.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <3304a77779394ac4a73c27a1ce1f4680@BY2PR05MB568.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:06:31 -0000 Mike and I did some work on this this afternoon We propose the following algorithm for calculating extend P space with avoids stub node problem and also addresses a problem in the pseudocode that excluded the use of a parallel link. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // // Calculate extended P-space // // Note the strictly less than operator is needed to // avoid ECMP issues. Compute_Extended_P_Space(fail_intf) foreach node y in network y.in_extended_P_space = false // Extend P-space to the P-spaces of all reachable // neighbours foreach interface intf in self // Exclude failed interface, noting that // the node reachable via that interface may be // reachable via another interface (parallel path) if (intf != fail_intf) foreach neighbor n in intf.remote_node // Apply RFC5286 Inequality 1 if ( D_opt(n, y) < D_opt(n,self) + D_opt)(self, y) y.in_extended_P_space = true It might seem strange to run rlfa to a node via a parallel link, but it would work and it seems strange to exclude it, particularly as some would like to use only rlfa. I have also extended the code to exclude the accidental selection of a pseudonode as PQ and the use of a repair first hop that is reachable through a pseudonode. Note that RFC5286 does not seem to explicitly call out the case where the first hop is a pseudonode. Stewart From uma.chunduri@ericsson.com Mon Feb 3 10:52:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3355F1A016D for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:52:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fxVZg4CYhTu3 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57901A01CE for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:52:54 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7f2f8e000002cdc-a9-52efe5863044 Received: from EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.84]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id DA.BE.11484.685EFE25; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:52:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC004.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:52:54 -0500 From: Uma Chunduri To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , Bharath R , "'stbryant@cisco.com'" <'stbryant@cisco.com'>, "rtgwg@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-remote-lfa@tools.ietf.org" , "imc.shand@gmail.com" , "cfilsfil@cisco.com" , "sprevidi@cisco.com" , "Ning.So@tatacommunications.com" Subject: RE: FW: Regarding cost based algorithm for finding Extended P-Space. Thread-Topic: FW: Regarding cost based algorithm for finding Extended P-Space. Thread-Index: Ac8Id9tf6zMIqkayakGJjtf21uD2UwAE9PWAAADSKUAABbFuAAAAR+zAAAGX5QAAAAsFkAAAjBhABiE9m4AACQk3gA== Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:52:53 +0000 Message-ID: <1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1A96DE@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> References: <3304a77779394ac4a73c27a1ce1f4680@BY2PR05MB568.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> <52EFDAA1.5000807@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <52EFDAA1.5000807@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1A96DEeusaamb105erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpnkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZXLonRLf96fsgg/1vBCx2zu5hs1i+4Aaj xaHeRawWW8+yWuy6vo/R4sKb38wW63c/YrI493QOowOHx5TfG1k9ds66y+6xZMlPJo/rTVfZ Pd7MOcPm8eXyZ7YAtigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujAVn+Aqm+1bM/fWTtYFxomMXIyeHhICJxN6H b9khbDGJC/fWs4HYQgJHGCX2rg+CsJcxSpxvsAWx2QT0JD5O/QlUz8UhInCBWeLSwhZWkISw gK/Eyyv/GEFsEYEAiS87frF0MXIA2VkSv2YUgpgsAioSs/d5g1TwAlVvmNgOtapE4lPXGbBO TgFNiWU3loLZjEDnfD+1hgnEZhYQl7j1ZD4TxJkCEkv2nGeGsEUlXj7+xwphK0lMWnqOFaI+ X6L57Us2iF2CEidnPmGZwCgyC8moWUjKZiEpg4jrSCzY/YkNwtaWWLbwNTOMfebAYyZk8QWM 7KsYOUqLU8ty040MNzECI/OYBJvjDsYFnywPMUpzsCiJ83556xwkJJCeWJKanZpakFoUX1Sa k1p8iJGJg1OqgZGZv/JwnPexhR3xzodKXZny7arZ9I/s3VgX67d183Pv1UpNe78KMx1YON+N +2WRMlNZj4uq8iEOvh8eJ/7MvTor7uKpcv63L3Y/v8sV/HR2/72K7uVxJ8OXH3j1RG5SyFfd 6D/P3iX0mDknT2+6EMiepRrKotqTdez63Mv6FyMnSd/XeMgdE6nEUpyRaKjFXFScCACoinCL mgIAAA== X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:52:59 -0000 --_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1A96DEeusaamb105erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also it might be important to align Admin checks for both LFA and rLFA by p= ointing the below in RFC 5286. In other words, as it doesn't make sense to= use the nexthop, which is administratively not allowed for LFA to be used = for rLFA. Indication of this could be useful/important.. Page 16 - 5286 " 3. If H_h.link is administratively allowed to be used as an alternate, and the cost of H_h.link is less than the maximum, and the reverse cost of H_h is less than the maximum, and H_h.neighbor is not overloaded (for IS-IS), and H_h.link is bidirectional, then H_h can be considered as an alternate. Otherwise, skip it and continue to the next candidate next-hop." -- Uma C. -----Original Message----- From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 10:06 AM To: Bharath R; 'stbryant@cisco.com'; rtgwg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-rtgwg-remot= e-lfa@tools.ietf.org; imc.shand@gmail.com; cfilsfil@cisco.com; sprevidi@cis= co.com; Ning.So@tatacommunications.com Subject: Re: FW: Regarding cost based algorithm for finding Extended P-Spac= e. Mike and I did some work on this this afternoon We propose the following algorithm for calculating extend P space with avoi= ds stub node problem and also addresses a problem in the pseudocode that ex= cluded the use of a parallel link. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // // Calculate extended P-space // // Note the strictly less than operator is needed to // avoid ECMP issues. Compute_Extended_P_Space(fail_intf) foreach node y in network y.in_extended_P_space =3D false // Extend P-space to the P-spaces of all reachable // neighbours foreach interface intf in self // Exclude failed interface, noting that // the node reachable via that interface may be // reachable via another interface (parallel path) if (intf !=3D fail_intf) foreach neighbor n in intf.remote_node // Apply RFC5286 Inequality 1 if ( D_opt(n, y) < D_opt(n,self) + D_opt)(self, y) y.in_extended_P_space =3D true It might seem strange to run rlfa to a node via a parallel link, but it wou= ld work and it seems strange to exclude it, particularly as some would like= to use only rlfa. I have also extended the code to exclude the accidental selection of a pseu= donode as PQ and the use of a repair first hop that is reachable through a = pseudonode. Note that RFC5286 does not seem to explicitly call out the case where the f= irst hop is a pseudonode. Stewart _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg --_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1A96DEeusaamb105erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also it might be important to align Admin checks for both LFA and rLFA= by pointing the below in RFC 5286. In other words,  as it doesn't mak= e sense to use the nexthop, which is administratively not allowed for LFA t= o be used for rLFA. Indication of this could be useful/important..
 
Page 16 - 5286
"   3.   If H_h.li= nk is administratively allowed to be used as an
        = alternate,
 
       &= nbsp;   and the cost of H_h.link is less than the maximum,=
       &= nbsp;   and the reverse cost of H_h is less than the maximum,
       &= nbsp;   and H_h.neighbor is not overloaded (for IS-IS),
       &= nbsp;   and H_h.link is bidirectional,
 
        = then H_h can be considered as an alternate.  Otherwise, skip it=
        = and continue to the next candidate next-hop."
 
 
--
Uma C.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces= @ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 10:06 AM
To: Bharath R; 'stbryant@cisco.com'; rtgwg@ietf.org; draft-ietf-rtgwg-remot= e-lfa@tools.ietf.org; imc.shand@gmail.com; cfilsfil@cisco.com; sprevidi@cis= co.com; Ning.So@tatacommunications.com
Subject: Re: FW: Regarding cost based algorithm for finding Extended P-Spac= e.
 
Mike and I did some work on this this afternoon
 
We propose the following algorithm for calculating extend P space with= avoids stub node problem and also addresses a problem in the pseudocode th= at excluded the use of a parallel link.
 
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    //
    // Calculate extended P-space
    //
    // Note the strictly less than operator is needed t= o
    // avoid ECMP issues.
 
    Compute_Extended_P_Space(fail_intf)
        foreach node y in network
            y.i= n_extended_P_space =3D false
            // = Extend P-space to the P-spaces of all reachable
            // = neighbours
            for= each interface intf in self
           &nbs= p;    // Exclude failed interface, noting that
           &nbs= p;    // the node reachable via that interface may be
           &nbs= p;    // reachable  via another interface (parallel pat= h)
           &nbs= p;    if (intf !=3D fail_intf)
           &nbs= p;        foreach neighbor n in intf.rem= ote_node
           &nbs= p;            // App= ly RFC5286 Inequality 1
           &nbs= p;            if ( D= _opt(n, y) <
           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;       D_opt(n,self) + D_opt)(self, = y)
           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;   y.in_extended_P_space =3D true
 
It might seem strange to run rlfa to a node via a parallel link, but i= t would work and it seems strange to exclude it, particularly as some would= like to use only rlfa.
 
I have also extended the code to exclude the accidental selection of a= pseudonode as PQ and the use of a repair first hop that is reachable throu= gh a pseudonode.
 
Note that RFC5286 does not seem to explicitly call out the case where = the first hop is a pseudonode.
 
Stewart
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 --_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1A96DEeusaamb105erics_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Feb 6 18:26:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0A41A059B; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:26:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kG-BzTQ8-LoE; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58121A0503; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:26:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-16.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140207022632.14070.42847.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 18:26:32 -0800 Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:26:34 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for Advanced Multipath in MPLS Networks Authors : Curtis Villamizar Dave McDysan So Ning Andrew Malis Lucy Yong Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-16.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2014-02-06 Abstract: This document provides a set of requirements for Advanced Multipath in MPLS Networks. Advanced Multipath is a formalization of multipath techniques currently in use in IP and MPLS networks and a set of extensions to existing multipath techniques. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-16 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-16 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From uma.chunduri@ericsson.com Mon Feb 10 13:43:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C35A1A088B; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:43:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xbAevKiLlTSq; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90CD1A0488; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:43:00 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7f858e0000031c7-11-52f947e1ccec Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 92.31.12743.1E749F25; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:42:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:42:57 -0500 From: Uma Chunduri To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: RE: relmote lfa draft edits (TLDP Address) Thread-Topic: relmote lfa draft edits (TLDP Address) Thread-Index: Ac8mLApAu3JKYHKgTR+MA2xaFqAgZA== Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:42:56 +0000 Message-ID: <1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7CE@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7CEeusaamb105erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrELMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoO5D959BBht/ilocPfSe1eLCm9/M FueezmF0YPaY8nsjq8eSJT+ZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDImTtnFWrClsuLOlbWsDYxt2V2M nBwSAiYSm2+uZoWwxSQu3FvP1sXIxSEkcIRRYt3S28wQznJGiWMnp4JVsQnoSXyc+pMdxBYR CJLYcGMJSxcjBwezgKPEglvSIGFhAWOJFycmsECUmEj03ZnADGHrSdz6vhksziKgKnFjwz+w OK+Ar8TP66/AxjMCHfH91BomEJtZQFzi1pP5TBDHCUgs2XOeGcIWlXj5+B/U0YoS+/qns0PU 50ss7+9ig5gpKHFy5hOWCYzCs5CMmoWkbBaSMoi4jsSC3Z/YIGxtiWULXzPD2GcOPGZCFl/A yL6KkaO0OLUsN93IYBMjMF6OSbDp7mDc89LyEKM0B4uSOO+Xt85BQgLpiSWp2ampBalF8UWl OanFhxiZODilGhj9xJdcm3xuk7+L/KfkhHrh9r19v6dlrN/wyv2wSsoU3TJX1kkL0z2UdVuj 7vqGRc9Udtq6mXfatKo3NqoGolVi9SV3bjeFsmndV9Wxl1O7wXv28PMJxz4bBGg+ZmZf7sLR Jih77MNCh6PKbBcDpko/Lw89yPvRrbNIVDzd8aPfyZVHTnQ+EVViKc5INNRiLipOBAAggKlM ZQIAAA== Cc: "isis-wg@ietf.org list \(isis-wg@ietf.org\)" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:43:04 -0000 --_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7CEeusaamb105erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [CC'ed IS-IS wg too] Regarding the following discussions at last IETF and the corresponding modi= fied text in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-remote-lfa-04 , regarding the same I have the following question to authors - =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - Targeted LDP Address - Advertise in protocol. This is preferred. However, some boxes don't advertise. [Uma]: I think this was mentioned because it's been said non-TE participati= ng/legacy nodes won't advertise this. - Management configuration as a requirement. - Pick an address arbitrarily. Uma: What configuration is expected? Stewart: Could be silent since it is a vendor implementation issue. Hannes: Lowest IP address is useless. A node should be able to advertise that it doesn't support T-LDP. Rob Shakir - Draft should not remain silent on this issue. Stewart: Use Router-ID if not configured to do otherwise like using a different address. The text now says: In the absence of a protocol to learn the preferred IP address for targeted= LDP, an LSR should attempt a targeted LDP session with the Router ID [RFC2= 328] [RFC5305] [RFC5340], unless it is configured otherwise. [Uma]: ..then the above text can be potentially conflicting to what is s= tated in Section 12 - "To prevent their use as an attack vector the repair tunnel endpoi= nts SHOULD be assigned from a set of addresses that are not reachable from outside the routing domain." If a new private IP address range is provisioned for T-LDP then it may not = be possible to indicate the same as RID with multiple loopbacks. I feel the text around this should not be rigid based on this and this is c= an still present a potential interoperability issue for RLFA.. For IS-IS: This can be addressed by defining auxiliary RIDs TLV (or sub-TLV in TLV 24= 2) specifying the purpose of the RID, in this case for RLFA T-LDP session. With this - a. One need not dip into all reachability prefixes 135/235/236/237 to= find the prefix tags b. Also need not get confused if the tag is present because of inter a= rea leaking etc.. We had a small offline discussion on this and welcome others view on this t= oo. -- Uma C. --_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7CEeusaamb105erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[CC’ed IS-IS wg too= ]

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 <= /p>

Regarding the following d= iscussions at last IETF and the corresponding modified text in http:= //tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-remote-lfa-04 ,

regarding the same I have= the following question to authors -

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D    
      - Targeted LDP Address<=
/pre>

 


          - Advertise in =
protocol. This is preferred.  However,


            som=
e boxes don't advertise. 


[Uma]: I think this was mentioned because i=
t’s been said non-TE participating/legacy nodes won’t advertise=
 this.


 


          - Management co=
nfiguration as a requirement. 


          - Pick an =
address arbitrarily. 


       


         Uma: What config=
uration is expected? 


         Stewart: Could b=
e silent since it is a vendor


           implement=
ation issue. 


         Hannes: Lowest I=
P address is useless. A node should


           be able t=
o advertise that it doesn't support


           T-LDP. 


         Rob Shakir - Dra=
ft should not remain silent on this 


           issu=
e. 


         Stewart: Use Rou=
ter-ID if not configured to do otherwise 


           like=
 using a different address.


 


The text now says:


 


In the absence of a protocol to learn the preferred IP address for tar=
geted LDP, an LSR should attempt a targeted LDP session with the Router ID =
[RFC2328] [RFC5305] [RFC5340], unless it is configured otherwise.


 


[Uma]:  ..then the above text can be p=
otentially   conflicting to what is stated in Section 12 –<=
o:p>


 &n=
bsp;       “To prevent their use as an attack vector the repair tunnel end=
points


   SHOULD be assigned from a s=
et of addresses that are not reachable


   from outside the routing do=
main.”


 


If a new private IP address range is provis=
ioned for T-LDP then it may not be possible to indicate the same as RID wit=
h multiple loopbacks.


I feel the text around this should not be r=
igid based on this and this is can still present a potential interoperabili=
ty issue for RLFA..


 


For IS-IS:


This can be addressed by defining  aux=
iliary RIDs TLV (or sub-TLV in TLV 242)  specifying the purpose of the=
 RID, in this case for RLFA T-LDP session.


With this –


a. &nbs=
p;     One need not dip into all reachability prefixes 135/235/236/237 t=
o find the prefix tags


b. &nbs=
p;    Also need not get confused if the tag is present because of inter area =
leaking etc..


 


We had a small offline discussion on this a=
nd welcome others view on this too.


 


--


Uma C.


 
--_000_1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7CEeusaamb105erics_-- From uma.chunduri@ericsson.com Mon Feb 10 13:53:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73AA1A0885; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:53:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mK2_Ljp7EE8n; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86191A088A; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:53:41 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7f858e0000031c7-a0-52f94a615a18 Received: from EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.78]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id DC.B1.12743.26A49F25; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:53:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB105.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.122]) by EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.78]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:53:40 -0500 From: Uma Chunduri To: "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" , "internet-drafts@ietf.org" , "i-d-announce@ietf.org" Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-01.txt Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-01.txt Thread-Index: AQHPF3JFo3GE3viSUkOOoMHwgUfchZqSxScwgAcbc8CAFUMk4A== Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:53:40 +0000 Message-ID: <1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7EE@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> References: <20140122130217.15321.92624.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F177B7E@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> <30325_1390901588_52E77954_30325_3841_1_EEE55384044474429A926C625D0FCC8109A2C6F491@PUEXCB2F.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> In-Reply-To: <30325_1390901588_52E77954_30325_3841_1_EEE55384044474429A926C625D0FCC8109A2C6F491@PUEXCB2F.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPn26S188gg5XPRCyW7HrObPHhbq7F hTe/mS2+7n3I6sDisWTJTyaPlmcn2QKYorhsUlJzMstSi/TtErgyzv1qYy7YxVOx7MletgbG l5xdjJwcEgImEj/a97NB2GISF+6tB7K5OIQEjjBKLD72lR3CWc4osb15GTNIFZuAnsTHqT/B EiIC6xklJu9rYOli5OBgFlCV2LzNFsQUFnCSaLwoDFIuIuAs8fnrNxYI20ni3vwJrCA2C1D1 w+9PwGxeAV+J13vusEDs+scoceLpYrD5nALNjBIzJ/eALWYEOu/7qTVMIDazgLjErSfzmSDO FpBYsuc8M4QtKvHy8T9WCFtRYl//dHaIeh2JBbs/sUHY2hLLFr5mhtgsKHFy5hOWCYxis5CM nYWkZRaSlllIWhYwsqxi5CgtTi3LTTcy2MQIjJ1jEmy6Oxj3vLQ8xCjNwaIkzvvlrXOQkEB6 YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmrxIUYmDk6pBka2Z0GOK5ZluGdHmlqdvXavqF6eicEow/6K4DO+tlv/ J7dYdx7YF7A1tupCV5jDfU2Lvf/2tBewGUl+tpuyMP3up2lVZfnxVu6aXxuCZKY8/f8yuHHD bBvDrgOHw0QtmcK9gma9fXinfVVWwp+o6Z971NbOEmPds6xP5hPfa63fbsvFJp77HanEUpyR aKjFXFScCACY+rSkawIAAA== Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:53:44 -0000 Stephane, As I have given my feedback on the recent updates offline and new versions= looks fine to me. I have 2 more final comments as noted below [Uma1]: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3. Similarly Section 4.4 coverage monitoring guidelines for the vendor impl= ementations are good ones but these are neither addressing any issues=20 presented in Section 2 nor helping solve any interoperability issue.=20 The problem I see with this is lot of implementations may quickly become no= n-compliant from customers point of view once this becomes RFC. Do you see = that way? [SLI] As mentioned in previous comment, coverage informations are mandatory= to be able to maintain LFA deployment (SP experience speaking ...). As pro= posed, I can add something in section 2 to detail the need.=20 [Uma1]: I am not at all saying coverage information and monitoring informat= ion is less important, in fact it could be critical for SPs but my question= is towards,=20 how far we can mandate these kind of implementation choices of the vendors = ? 5. Section 3.2.1 Also, say you might have a legacy node to deal with and you are not abl= e to establish TLDP with PQ here=20 in that case, you might look for a knob to choose the policy (remote or = local policy). [SLI] This may be managed by "neighbor exclude" policy statement. [Uma1]: It may not be neighbor exclude as this is PQ node's preference and = multiple destinations can have different PQs with same neighboring node. Probably you mean to say node-admin tag kind of stuff? From aretana@cisco.com Tue Feb 11 11:09:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53101A0702 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:09:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, GB_ABOUTYOU=0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0R19FY439sTo for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72BF1A06F1 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:09:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5284; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1392145771; x=1393355371; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=9n0MyOpWB3eGh0+/7SNscLlIAuux3ITUZMtqodK2u2E=; b=iXkiMmgIClrg55s4qPde+RT9cp71rcukKFTMgsNE1lM4jbhQVEdHjlfL GoNw4g+i7X/on0+Igp3H6ESHTQn3iGF3kMdXDi2cuQ3sS9WtdOo3Q+2Jx 0AW7HwNoSxd9FAUoMXpoFJhagc6h6iwFtA9rpGjLXawD38LAUoE0TPm5/ Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkGAFp0+lKtJXG//2dsb2JhbABagkhEOFe2MYhTgRQWdIImAQEEbhsCAQg/ByERFBECBBOHcQMRDcEKDYc2F4xfgiGEOASWPoFsgTKLK4VDgy2CKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,826,1384300800"; d="scan'208,217";a="303342987" Received: from rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com ([173.37.113.191]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Feb 2014 19:09:31 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com [173.37.183.83]) by rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1BJ9VoU008210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:09:31 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.251]) by xhc-rcd-x09.cisco.com ([173.37.183.83]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:09:30 -0600 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Agenda requests for IETF 89 Thread-Topic: Agenda requests for IETF 89 Thread-Index: AQHPF7qznM2H6oxp7UmgyXURIf/+gZqwmuAA Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.150.53.51] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CF1FDC914AA73aretanaciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:09:34 -0000 --_000_CF1FDC914AA73aretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! We haven't heard back from everyone on the list below (as we expected/hoped= ). Please keep in mind that the ID submission cut-off date is this Friday (Feb= /14) and that we will only consider published documents for the agenda. We need to publish the draft WG agenda on Monday (Feb/17) and the final one= on Feb/24. Please start discussions about your drafts on the list. Thanks! Alvaro. On 1/22/14 4:41 PM, "Alia Atlas" > wrote: It is not too early to start thinking about IETF 89. Alvaro and I would re= ally like to get agenda requests early. We expect that drafts will have di= scussion on this mailing list before hand. The following are items that we believe will request agenda slots. PLEASE = CONFIRM and tell us how much time is needed: draft-aumuganainar-rtgwg-dps-00: intended for last IETF, but author couldn't make = it draft-aumuganainar-rtgwg-dps-00: new draft-litkowski-rtgwg-uloop-delay-01: new draft expected draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-01: new draft just published composite link/Advanced Multipath status: Trying to finish up Advanced= Multipath work draft-psarkar-rtgwg-rlfa-node-protection-03 --_000_CF1FDC914AA73aretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

We haven't heard back from everyone on the list below (as we expected/= hoped).

Please keep in mind that the ID submission cut-off date is this Friday= (Feb/14) and that we will only consider published documents for the agenda= .

We need to publish the draft WG agenda on Monday (Feb/17) and the fina= l one on Feb/24.  Please start discussions about your drafts on the li= st.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On 1/22/14 4:41 PM, "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:

It is not too early to start thinking about IETF 89.  = ;Alvaro and I would really like to get agenda requests early.  We expe= ct that drafts will have discussion on this mailing list before hand.

The following are items that we believe will request agenda slots. &nb= sp;PLEASE CONFIRM and tell us how much time is needed:

    draft-aumuganaina= r-rtgwg-dps-00:   intended for last IETF, but author couldn't make it
    draft-litkow= ski-rtgwg-uloop-delay-01:  new draft expected
    draft-ietf-= rtgwg-lfa-manageability-01:  new draft just published
    composite link/Advanced Multipath status:  Trying t= o finish up Advanced Multipath work

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Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF00F1A0942; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:07:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J0bG9pMNEIMX; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF6B1A093B; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by omfedm11.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP 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<1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F177B7E@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> <30325_1390901588_52E77954_30325_3841_1_EEE55384044474429A926C625D0FCC8109A2C6F491@PUEXCB2F.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> <1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7EE@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <1B502206DFA0C544B7A60469152008633F1AD7EE@eusaamb105.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: fr-FR Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: fr-FR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2013.11.20.60015 Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:07:09 -0000 Hi Uma, Inline answers ([SLI2]) -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: Uma Chunduri [mailto:uma.chunduri@ericsson.com]=20 Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 10 f=E9vrier 2014 22:54 =C0=A0: LITKOWSKI Stephane DTF/DERX; internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce= @ietf.org Cc=A0: rtgwg@ietf.org Objet=A0: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-01.txt Stephane, As I have given my feedback on the recent updates offline and new versions= looks fine to me. I have 2 more final comments as noted below [Uma1]: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3. Similarly Section 4.4 coverage monitoring guidelines for the vendor impl= ementations are good ones but these are neither addressing any issues=20 presented in Section 2 nor helping solve any interoperability issue.= =20 The problem I see with this is lot of implementations may quickly become no= n-compliant from customers point of view once this becomes RFC. Do you see = that way? [SLI] As mentioned in previous comment, coverage informations are mandatory= to be able to maintain LFA deployment (SP experience speaking ...). As pro= posed, I can add something in section 2 to detail the need.=20 [Uma1]: I am not at all saying coverage information and monitoring informat= ion is less important, in fact it could be critical for SPs but my question= is towards, how far we can mandate these kind of implementation choices of= the vendors ? [SLI2] IMHO, LFA cannot be used in a service provider network requiring FRR= without such information. That's why we putted a MUST for some of the item= s that we consider to be the minimum subset to make LFA being usable. We ca= n discuss on the exact subset to be MUST/SHOULD/MAY but some items need to = be as MUST. I agree that this does not prevent LFA to work, but it prevents= it to be used ... 5. Section 3.2.1 Also, say you might have a legacy node to deal with and you are not abl= e to establish TLDP with PQ here=20 in that case, you might look for a knob to choose the policy (remote or = local policy). [SLI] This may be managed by "neighbor exclude" policy statement. [Uma1]: It may not be neighbor exclude as this is PQ node's preference and = multiple destinations can have different PQs with same neighboring node. Probably you mean to say node-admin tag kind of stuff? [SLI2] Ok, sounds to be a vocabulary issue ... when I use the "neighbor" s= tatement here, I mean alternate preference ... I will fix it to be more cle= ar in the document( s/neighbor/alternate/g) ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged inf= ormation that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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From internet-drafts@ietf.org Wed Feb 12 03:09:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2118C1A094F; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:09:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hdNG4aVRIIyn; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575031A092D; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:09:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-03.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140212110938.6942.47842.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:09:38 -0800 Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:09:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Operational management of Loop Free Alternates Authors : Stephane Litkowski Bruno Decraene Clarence Filsfils Kamran Raza Martin Horneffer Pushpasis Sarkar Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-lfa-manageability-03.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2014-02-12 Abstract: Loop Free Alternates (LFA), as defined in RFC 5286 is an IP Fast ReRoute (IP FRR) mechanism enabling traffic protection for IP traffic (and MPLS LDP traffic by extension). Following first deployment experiences, this document provides operational feedback on LFA, highlights some limitations, and proposes a set of refinements to address those limitations. It also proposes required management specifications. This proposal is also applicable to remote LFA solution. 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This message starts the Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use= -cases. This call will close by EOD (pick your favorite time zone) on Febr= uary 28, 2014. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Please provide specific feedback as to why you support (or not) the advance= ment of this draft. Please about "+1"-type responses. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_CF23AB104BD19aretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

This message starts the Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-c= l-use-cases.  This call will close by EOD (pick your favorite time zon= e) on February 28, 2014.


Please provide specific feedback as to why you support (or not) the ad= vancement of this draft.  Please about "+1"-type respons= es.

Thanks!

Alvaro.
--_000_CF23AB104BD19aretanaciscocom_-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 08:21:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131FE1A0214 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:21:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jU-h5imQLqZ6 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1B01A02C0 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:21:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2057; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1392394905; x=1393604505; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=LRj5qprQ63DDaad2gIlOq6MkLNwx8Ry8fKw1KRg31TA=; b=ldTjUbOpG0Aw/XB31cMRLIy6vpoWAUN82Fo9WYKw1/RtXCw9IsHZMvaI gCLbZK1cMvmNHxaQKAsFh7P3XLYXEBTeDe9gnARtqDB8mE1gvWnc1ilZ+ JobTd/V+yRHsigOxIT9LA2r8r5p4AItN58e3UOlAIqnfbqQJODdamWggy c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjUFAG1C/lKtJV2b/2dsb2JhbABZgkJEgQ+/MoEUFnSCHBB5EgELAXQnBA6ICsghF455hD8EmCySI4Mtgio X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,845,1384300800"; d="scan'208,217";a="304143256" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Feb 2014 16:21:36 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x05.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x05.cisco.com [173.37.183.79]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1EGLadh021694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:21:36 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.30]) by xhc-rcd-x05.cisco.com ([173.37.183.79]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:21:36 -0600 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" Subject: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Topic: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Index: AQHPKaDU96gsHYS+wk6jkB/ra0Mr1A== Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:21:36 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.117.15.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CF23ACBE4BD2Daretanaciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/ZsI4aeVo8xo0N7FOz5ZcHtVue0I Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:21:48 -0000 --_000_CF23ACBE4BD2Daretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! In parallel to the WGLC for this draft, I want to formally ask the authors = (no additional contributors are listed in the latest version of the draft) = to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. The draft will not progress (pending the result of the= WGLC) until we have received a response from each author. We had asked a similar question back in May/2013 and some of the authors re= plied then (all indicating they were not aware of any IPR). However, for c= ompleteness, we will require all the authors to reply again. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_CF23ACBE4BD2Daretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <8AF4E9CF4E86654D9B31E404C635FAB2@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

In parallel to the WGLC for this draft, I want to formally ask the aut= hors (no additional contributors are listed in the latest version of the dr= aft) to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aw= are of any relevant IPR.  The draft will not progress (pending the result of the WGLC) until we have received = a response from each author.

We had asked a similar question back in May/2013 and some of the autho= rs replied then (all indicating they were not aware of any IPR).  Howe= ver, for completeness, we will require all the authors to reply again.

Thanks!

Alvaro.
--_000_CF23ACBE4BD2Daretanaciscocom_-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 08:24:16 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8C41A02D8 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:24:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x8vJ8aQMaQxX for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from vmx3.tatacommunications.com (vmx3.tatacommunications.com [66.198.167.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5DD1A02C0 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:24:12 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="4.95,845,1384318800"; d="scan'208,217"; a="31251858" Received: from unknown (HELO wv1-cas-02.vsnl.co.in) ([64.86.157.138]) by mx3-2.tatacommunications.com with ESMTP; 14 Feb 2014 11:24:06 -0500 Received: from uswv1vcas03.vsnl.co.in (64.86.157.183) by wv1-cas-02.vsnl.co.in (64.86.157.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:24:06 -0500 Received: from USWV1VDAG02.vsnl.co.in ([fe80::7c6a:fd71:7022:40b6]) by uswv1vcas03.vsnl.co.in ([fe80::3911:1b21:3511:593b%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:24:06 -0500 From: Ning So To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" Subject: RE: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Topic: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Index: AQHPKaDU96gsHYS+wk6jkB/ra0Mr1Jq07v7g Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:24:05 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [64.86.157.8] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A0379188uswv1vdag02vsnl_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/JL_GCw56LnYz6bhJHmLKhb1apM8 Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:24:16 -0000 --_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A0379188uswv1vdag02vsnl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I am not aware of any. Best regards, Ning So Head of Network Architecture Mobile Broadband Services Tata Communications (Cell) 972-955-0914 From: Alvaro Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:22 AM To: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Hi! In parallel to the WGLC for this draft, I want to formally ask the authors = (no additional contributors are listed in the latest version of the draft) = to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. The draft will not progress (pending the result of the= WGLC) until we have received a response from each author. We had asked a similar question back in May/2013 and some of the authors re= plied then (all indicating they were not aware of any IPR). However, for c= ompleteness, we will require all the authors to reply again. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A0379188uswv1vdag02vsnl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I am not aware of any= . 

 <= /p>

Best regar= ds,

 = ;

Ning So

Head of Ne= twork Architecture

Mobile Bro= adband Services

Tata Commu= nications

(Cell) 972= -955-0914

 <= /p>

From: Alvaro= Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:22 AM
To: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org
Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases

 

Hi!

 

In parallel to the WGLC for= this draft, I want to formally ask the authors (no additional contributors= are listed in the latest version of the draft) to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aware of any rel= evant IPR.  The draft will not progress (pending the result of the WGL= C) until we have received a response from each author.

 

We had asked a similar ques= tion back in May/2013 and some of the authors replied then (all indicating = they were not aware of any IPR).  However, for completeness, we will require all the authors to reply again.

 

Thanks!

 

Alvaro.

--_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A0379188uswv1vdag02vsnl_-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 08:26:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DFF1A02C7 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:26:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ai66gXrCYnC for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from vmx3.tatacommunications.com (vmx3.tatacommunications.com [66.198.167.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792FE1A028D for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:26:00 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="4.95,845,1384318800"; d="scan'208,217"; a="31251924" Received: from unknown (HELO wv1-cas-02.vsnl.co.in) ([64.86.157.138]) by mx3-2.tatacommunications.com with ESMTP; 14 Feb 2014 11:25:58 -0500 Received: from USWV1VCAS01.vsnl.co.in (64.86.157.177) by wv1-cas-02.vsnl.co.in (64.86.157.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:25:58 -0500 Received: from USWV1VDAG02.vsnl.co.in ([fe80::7c6a:fd71:7022:40b6]) by uswv1vcas01.vsnl.co.in ([fe80::6521:bbe2:f2e4:7b9b%11]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:25:58 -0500 From: Ning So To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: RE: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Topic: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Index: AQHPKZ/Ul1SOh2ak5EKyfriVkynkWpq070MA Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:25:57 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [64.86.157.8] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A03791A4uswv1vdag02vsnl_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/3jKGzV6npMlpnNXFTQALd-OgZnU Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:26:03 -0000 --_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A03791A4uswv1vdag02vsnl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support as co-author. This draft is very helpful to explain how CL can be u= sed, so it provides the critical information that is complimentary to the R= equirement draft. Best regards, Ning So Head of Network Architecture Mobile Broadband Services Tata Communications (Cell) 972-955-0914 From: Alvaro Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:14 AM To: rtgwg@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Hi! This message starts the Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use= -cases. This call will close by EOD (pick your favorite time zone) on Febr= uary 28, 2014. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Please provide specific feedback as to why you support (or not) the advance= ment of this draft. Please about "+1"-type responses. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A03791A4uswv1vdag02vsnl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support as co-author. Thi= s draft is very helpful to explain how CL can be used, so it provides the c= ritical information that is complimentary to the Requirement draft. 

 <= /p>

Best regar= ds,

 = ;

Ning So

Head of Ne= twork Architecture

Mobile Bro= adband Services

Tata Commu= nications

(Cell) 972= -955-0914

 <= /p>

From: Alvaro= Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:14 AM
To: rtgwg@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases

 

Hi!

 

This message starts the Wor= king Group Last Call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases.  This call wil= l close by EOD (pick your favorite time zone) on February 28, 2014.

 

 

Please provide specific fee= dback as to why you support (or not) the advancement of this draft.  P= lease about "+1"-type responses.

 

Thanks!

 

Alvaro.

--_000_F03A6CD051CB7946A6E58423E26D99A9A03791A4uswv1vdag02vsnl_-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 08:27:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B7F1A02CC for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:27:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M8AgZwjuvgrQ for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442EB1A02EB for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BBD34953; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:27:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:24:06 +0000 Received: from DFWEML704-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.141) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:25:10 +0000 Received: from DFWEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.21]) by dfweml704-chm.china.huawei.com ([169.254.6.202]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:24:57 -0800 From: Lucy yong To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: RE: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Topic: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Index: AQHPKZ/Ul1SOh2ak5EKyfriVkynkWpq073Sw Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:24:57 +0000 Message-ID: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F294@dfweml701-chm.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.154.205] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F294dfweml701chmchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/_vHpOhfOjjxLm-GbBqQjXTgxfvw Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:27:13 -0000 --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F294dfweml701chmchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support! lucy From: Alvaro Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:14 AM To: rtgwg@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Hi! This message starts the Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use= -cases. This call will close by EOD (pick your favorite time zone) on Febr= uary 28, 2014. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Please provide specific feedback as to why you support (or not) the advance= ment of this draft. Please about "+1"-type responses. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F294dfweml701chmchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support!

lucy

 <= /p>

From: Alvaro R= etana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:14 AM
To: rtgwg@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases

 

Hi!

 

This message starts the Wor= king Group Last Call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases.  This call wil= l close by EOD (pick your favorite time zone) on February 28, 2014.

 

 

Please provide specific fee= dback as to why you support (or not) the advancement of this draft.  P= lease about "+1"-type responses.

 

Thanks!

 

Alvaro.

--_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F294dfweml701chmchi_-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 08:27:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D40D1A0309 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:27:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4KKNB7OZr1uM for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EED81A0305 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BBD34988; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:27:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.242) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:25:00 +0000 Received: from DFWEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.72) by lhreml405-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.242) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:26:04 +0000 Received: from DFWEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.21]) by dfweml702-chm.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.231]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:25:58 -0800 From: Lucy yong To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" Subject: RE: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Topic: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Thread-Index: AQHPKaDU96gsHYS+wk6jkB/ra0Mr1Jq076VQ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:25:57 +0000 Message-ID: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F2C0@dfweml701-chm.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.154.205] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F2C0dfweml701chmchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/ZcSIrQXj2aEEbCQIWvrGqzeKYc4 Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:27:21 -0000 --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F2C0dfweml701chmchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not aware of an IPR related to this draft. Lucy From: Alvaro Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:22 AM To: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases Hi! In parallel to the WGLC for this draft, I want to formally ask the authors = (no additional contributors are listed in the latest version of the draft) = to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aware o= f any relevant IPR. The draft will not progress (pending the result of the= WGLC) until we have received a response from each author. We had asked a similar question back in May/2013 and some of the authors re= plied then (all indicating they were not aware of any IPR). However, for c= ompleteness, we will require all the authors to reply again. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F2C0dfweml701chmchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am not aware of an IPR = related to this draft.

Lucy

 <= /p>

From: Alvaro R= etana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:22 AM
To: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org
Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases

 

Hi!

 

In parallel to the WGLC for= this draft, I want to formally ask the authors (no additional contributors= are listed in the latest version of the draft) to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aware of any rel= evant IPR.  The draft will not progress (pending the result of the WGL= C) until we have received a response from each author.

 

We had asked a similar ques= tion back in May/2013 and some of the authors replied then (all indicating = they were not aware of any IPR).  However, for completeness, we will require all the authors to reply again.

 

Thanks!

 

Alvaro.

--_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4532F2C0dfweml701chmchi_-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 09:28:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141D31A020B for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:28:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sKPP5Mw5fR7T for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:28:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qg0-x231.google.com (mail-qg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453001A0312 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j107so2091658qga.8 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:28:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DjnVCaLx1HW6BIw6FuIOcK1n8lwZDZUBycsiqbxocBY=; b=yB2248Q6tQk9gCNV1AwSv42KmPJmAivFBWDri4JTeE3bAtP0v6KguHhV1rz4eWWtA6 5MH23rhpSVtNWvWRxC14vw3uWSE5S/FvxVOXnczlQDUh6aGeQ0ZwQePTqGlXnh6NGOP9 ctQdA/gwoht0/gDSrLpCZGCsw7XSWgaFV/52BHj3JDPwyLNhTxJL98I+e797g8U+4ng1 WTgINm+3aZI8cJZh4D1JfIo/4L8rAQ2xFcEngUBkV+PCvDnwzRDE4onfvK76E/UX5cY1 kRVmUq9Nui1wb07uhsBM9BFGXvBhURP9Qtafx/fSzsKbVu+1t9FARN3bFG1jEg+DtXAR axXQ== X-Received: by 10.224.11.196 with SMTP id u4mr15704978qau.4.1392398893605; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:28:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.92.136 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:27:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:27:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases To: Ning So Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/w1ZVbR26E3TyLLd_vUn7SUr2tDk Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:28:28 -0000 I also support as a co-author, and for the same reason stated by Ning. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Ning So wrote: > Support as co-author. This draft is very helpful to explain how CL can be > used, so it provides the critical information that is complimentary to the > Requirement draft. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ning So > > Head of Network Architecture > > Mobile Broadband Services > > Tata Communications > > (Cell) 972-955-0914 > > > > From: Alvaro Retana (aretana) [mailto:aretana@cisco.com] > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:14 AM > To: rtgwg@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org > Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases > > > > Hi! > > > > This message starts the Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases. This call will close by EOD (pick your > favorite time zone) on February 28, 2014. > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases > > > > Please provide specific feedback as to why you support (or not) the > advancement of this draft. Please about "+1"-type responses. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alvaro. From nobody Fri Feb 14 09:29:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC01A02C7 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:29:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oxJtRH_xxfFF for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x232.google.com (mail-qa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEA31A0322 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id cm18so18386353qab.37 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:29:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hGxoBpT6PLwWJDn8xC1mP4gAq4/hR+M3vEyJZn/Fzn8=; b=SP3MpstyqCH6/+Go2nxFK9xdcJRvL4cyurbkQEn9/4g7C9aR5VjQrh9PWyuoIWLQro W/dThHiXRpUpVVOQvqMsaQ4WpR/Ze3u5JFj6+y+AmdsEUFD8G0k6kptzHJgO8tz9ZdjD OlWnhrRolbfy5yE8YxfqzcDxsPvmAOyCLXAqiU86ZD182dA/G9xlQjEfRRS/ytA7PLzD yxbrM5tS8+kBj+SFfwCJibDN0zN/PGamSldlsmDjIc+zmQ26leKc6/jt05ozL2dXmjlW HPTx9eqmDZT8YNBHY1i5rtOQBMy4CQ8Y5sq/IpNAJhGR9gFCbA3SC2cGSSZKuX+txsVb fu6A== X-Received: by 10.224.172.133 with SMTP id l5mr15329828qaz.25.1392398941098; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:29:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.92.136 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 09:28:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 12:28:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/EU6bDEwe2hR7negA4TbW02tbnQM Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:29:06 -0000 Alvaro, I'm not aware of any relevant IPR. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) wrote: > Hi! > > In parallel to the WGLC for this draft, I want to formally ask the authors > (no additional contributors are listed in the latest version of the draft) > to please respond to this message indicating whether or not you are aware of > any relevant IPR. The draft will not progress (pending the result of the > WGLC) until we have received a response from each author. > > We had asked a similar question back in May/2013 and some of the authors > replied then (all indicating they were not aware of any IPR). However, for > completeness, we will require all the authors to reply again. > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > From nobody Fri Feb 14 13:10:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16971A0428; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:10:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvwFLw2N378M; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9953A1A041B; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:10:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm-00.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.0.0.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140214211046.18086.58949.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:10:46 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/LHP2cgGeI-uzqxuUq_xcITIFdMM Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:10:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Algorithms for computing Maximally Redundant Trees for IP/LDP Fast- Reroute Authors : Gabor Sandor Enyedi Andras Csaszar Alia Atlas Chris Bowers Abishek Gopalan Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm-00.txt Pages : 61 Date : 2014-02-14 Abstract: A complete solution for IP and LDP Fast-Reroute using Maximally Redundant Trees is presented in [I-D.ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr- architecture]. This document defines the associated MRT Lowpoint algorithm that is used in the default MRT profile to compute both the necessary Maximally Redundant Trees with their associated next-hops and the alternates to select for MRT-FRR. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Feb 14 14:53:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FC61A029A for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uftDcxy8wbvE for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com (maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:88e6:3::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D131A0251 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from harbor3.ipv6.occnc.com (harbor3.v6ds.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:88e6:3::239]) (authenticated bits=128) by maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1EMrbpK024138; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:53:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from curtis@ipv6.occnc.com) Message-Id: <201402142253.s1EMrbpK024138@maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com> To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" From: Curtis Villamizar Subject: Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:14:26 +0000." Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:53:37 -0500 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/daqwM4VfYii2gSs9-oe_mq4Y3nU Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@ipv6.occnc.com List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:53:49 -0000 Support - as co-author This document has information in a few areas that for clarity we would have to put in other documents if it were not here: 1. The two fundamental use cases - parallel simple links and parallel paths (plus links). 2. Some uses of the advanced features - a. delay sesitive applications, b. accounting for IP and LDP traffic c. packet ordering considerations 3. Common practice today. (the appendices) Rather than put some of this in a few other documents and clutter them it is better to have a purely informational document that we can reference. Without the background information on common practice we have to refer to some older documents like RFC299{1,2} and the PW avoiding ECMP RFC [RFC4928] that are inadequate for that background information. Curtis In message "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" writes: > > Hi! > > This message starts the Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases. This call will close by EOD (pick your > favorite time zone) on February 28, 2014. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases > > Please provide specific feedback as to why you support (or not) the > advancement of this draft. Please about "+1"-type responses. > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. From nobody Fri Feb 14 14:56:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078461A0332 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:55:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.45 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.45 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lkr0M-qlmLuG for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com (maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:88e6:3::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C541A041E for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from harbor3.ipv6.occnc.com (harbor3.v6ds.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:88e6:3::239]) (authenticated bits=128) by maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s1EMtllq024248; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:55:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from curtis@ipv6.occnc.com) Message-Id: <201402142255.s1EMtllq024248@maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com> To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" From: Curtis Villamizar Subject: Re: IPR Claims related to draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:21:36 +0000." Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 17:55:47 -0500 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/G5gp56kyMrRwJiwXSY5MRSSqnio Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@ipv6.occnc.com List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 22:55:59 -0000 I know of no IPR claims related to this draft. Curtis In message "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" writes: > > Hi! > > In parallel to the WGLC for this draft, I want to formally ask the > authors (no additional contributors are listed in the latest version > of the draft) to please respond to this message indicating whether or > not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The draft will not progress > (pending the result of the WGLC) until we have received a response > from each author. > > We had asked a similar question back in May/2013 and some of the > authors replied then (all indicating they were not aware of any IPR). > However, for completeness, we will require all the authors to reply > again. > > Thanks! > > Alvaro. From nobody Mon Feb 17 12:54:07 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7191C1A055B for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:54:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B1a82TkZPzDG for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F211A02B9 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:54:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1821; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1392670441; x=1393880041; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=EeorGOZxX3Mgh/KXNM1b8m65K+OCJdg+NkB29VFaaI0=; b=lyuKQc4UHaZ6qx550dOjWgGiYI0d7EjnClXd1sBlmtAjNkSvu1m+GikX 1LRI1UyriQVjnMkiMW+TCo4KYm3r0V6SSuEQj+qMuQpXK4PeZOvGKzCss 13BPYxKQzbc9hBxOiVq01ICNyNnBIpHd0/RItCWC/7QGRjYBEexYMotWa 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMHADJ2AlOtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABZgkJEOFeFY7EXiWoWdIIcEIELAQsBdCcEHId8DZlAsQAXji2FEwSYLJIjgy2CKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,862,1384300800"; d="scan'208,217";a="304652445" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Feb 2014 20:54:00 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com [173.36.12.79]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1HKs0j8001996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:54:00 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.147]) by xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com ([173.36.12.79]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:54:00 -0600 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Draft rtgwg Agenda for IETF 89 Thread-Topic: Draft rtgwg Agenda for IETF 89 Thread-Index: AQHPLCJhK8CMK0CzykW6eV0NXqsIlQ== Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:53:59 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.117.15.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CF27E1154C322aretanaciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/AuP1SLtTcfGws7zM1cyb7Qzyofo X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:54:05 -0000 --_000_CF27E1154C322aretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I just posted the draft agenda for London: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings= /89/agenda/agenda-89-rtgwg As you can see, we still have plenty of time. Please let me know if I miss= ed anyone, or if anyone wants to add a topic. We mush publish the final ag= enda by Feb/24. The WG was assigned a slot on Friday morning at 9am. We will require that = all the authors submit slides by EOD on Tuesday March/4. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_CF27E1154C322aretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

I just posted the draft agenda for London:  http://www.ietf.org/procee= dings/89/agenda/agenda-89-rtgwg

As you can see, we still have plenty of time.  Please let me know= if I missed anyone, or if anyone wants to add a topic.  We mush publi= sh the final agenda by Feb/24.

The WG was assigned a slot on Friday morning at 9am.  We will req= uire that all the authors submit slides by EOD on Tuesday March/4.

Thanks!

Alvaro.
--_000_CF27E1154C322aretanaciscocom_-- From nobody Mon Feb 24 07:37:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1FA1A0130 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:37:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.917 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.917 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.347, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.77] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mRHz1VTgCA7q for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1791A012E for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s1OFbFGm007619; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:37:15 GMT Received: from 950129200 (108.26.90.92.rev.sfr.net [92.90.26.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s1OFbBGS007541 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:37:14 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Subject: RTGWG chairs Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:37:12 -0000 Message-ID: <082701cf3176$4b8d3100$e2a79300$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac8xdkZ3Uhs8P/HeR46Xrg1uVcphSg== Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/HZ9ctdx6IvHffITD8fx85nwLGEk Cc: Alia Atlas , stbryant@cisco.com X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 15:37:23 -0000 Hi RTGWG, >From the Wednesday evening of the week of IETF-89, Alia will be serving as Routing AD so it is not appropriate for her to continue to chair a WG in the Routing Area. Thus, she will be stepping down as co-chair of RTGWG. I have consulted with Alvaro, Stewart, and Alia, and have decided to appoint Jeff Tantsura to serve in this role. Jeff has been ramping up, and we will handle the handover in London. Since RTGWG is planned to meet on the Friday I expect that Alvaro and Jeff will be at the front of the room and Alia will have her feet up somewhere at the back acting as AD. Jeff can be reached at jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com. Thanks, Adrian From nobody Mon Feb 24 08:55:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7861A0177 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:55:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.348 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.348 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P75-ryRc3xpV for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-5.cisco.com (alln-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.142.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AE91A011C for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:55:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1039; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1393260943; x=1394470543; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=LUBrbFAjR6y4DGLnxm0hCTVRu5UoXEUFtLr97jBWdw8=; b=TH0J78klCoJC5ujjkG38roN6ukXhhnpRsPXzEAGUW6kP60v1fixkaNI/ lai69UIF72uuo6Vpt/GY2fjfKNz/UPPwp2iJi6ACUbM7QG8T22Qqmbrgj wnqidsON7u9pOE8Dzc8dMIougbKgMKd+xeP6A2mA0gByRPCXtmM3F5Plp I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgkFAIN4C1OtJXHB/2dsb2JhbABZgwaBEsB7gRkWdIImAQEEOj8QAgEINhAyJQEBBAENBYgFxWEXjhBUB4Q4AQOYNJIngy2CKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,535,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="22768640" Received: from rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com ([173.37.113.193]) by alln-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Feb 2014 16:55:43 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com [173.37.183.86]) by rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1OGth8G017803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:55:43 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.147]) by xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com ([173.37.183.86]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:55:42 -0600 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: RTGWG chairs Thread-Topic: RTGWG chairs Thread-Index: Ac8xdkZ3Uhs8P/HeR46Xrg1uVcphSgAE1oKA Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:55:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: <082701cf3176$4b8d3100$e2a79300$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <082701cf3176$4b8d3100$e2a79300$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.117.15.3] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <515697FB74856448A561E3C835F69F71@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/x85ER1xariFfEzr6sY9KsM2QleI Cc: Alia Atlas , "Stewart Bryant \(stbryant\)" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:55:46 -0000 Welcome Jeff! I want to personally thank Alia for her work in rtgwg and for teaching me when I first became chair. Thanks go out to Stewart for his service as the responsible AD of the WG. I'm looking forward for your continued work! Alvaro. On 2/24/14 10:37 AM, "Adrian Farrel" wrote: >Hi RTGWG, > >From the Wednesday evening of the week of IETF-89, Alia will be serving as >Routing AD so it is not appropriate for her to continue to chair a WG in >the >Routing Area. Thus, she will be stepping down as co-chair of RTGWG. > >I have consulted with Alvaro, Stewart, and Alia, and have decided to >appoint >Jeff Tantsura to serve in this role. >=20 >Jeff has been ramping up, and we will handle the handover in London. >Since RTGWG >is planned to meet on the Friday I expect that Alvaro and Jeff will be at >the >front of the room and Alia will have her feet up somewhere at the back >acting as >AD. > >Jeff can be reached at jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com. >=20 >Thanks, >Adrian > From nobody Mon Feb 24 14:42:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2C31A0314 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:42:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.047 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.047 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QqlvVtCPmOSw for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449501A0311 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:42:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2849; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1393281727; x=1394491327; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=4lw9G0dFlq18+x4zvhmtgZ8u6kPkUeiW9GKsVK7MLjs=; b=gXY1gNm6s4rnZkClq6DWmQk1REfKkhVamN1QKWFRBnpZbB2n0rM9gAVS ov0yr0Tg+H4lRaK6+qkAiclHYW6YBla0B9ZDaM86kJwaz3VZza0WjwAyE qnkBXwHeW5NhINCExDd1OS5Zi12UHfadgEfiyxrBRxpanp3P2EtAT477z 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsFADzKC1OtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABZgkJEO1eFZLtJgSAWdIImAQEEgQkCAQgEOwcyFBECBBMJh3wNxX4XjhBbhDgEmDSSJ4Mtgio X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,537,1389744000"; d="scan'208,217";a="306213802" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Feb 2014 22:42:06 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x01.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x01.cisco.com [173.36.12.75]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s1OMg6UU003477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:42:06 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.147]) by xhc-aln-x01.cisco.com ([173.36.12.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 16:42:04 -0600 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Draft rtgwg Agenda for IETF 89 Thread-Topic: Draft rtgwg Agenda for IETF 89 Thread-Index: AQHPLCJhK8CMK0CzykW6eV0NXqsIlZrFG8MA Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:42:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.117.15.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CF3134BD4D4BBaretanaciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/FKGJ6DW2aj58iwUB9pWB6kanw9w X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 22:42:12 -0000 --_000_CF3134BD4D4BBaretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The updated agenda is up. Authors: We require your slides by EOD on Tuesday March/4. Thanks! Alvaro. On 2/17/14 3:53 PM, "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" > wrote: Hi! I just posted the draft agenda for London: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings= /89/agenda/agenda-89-rtgwg As you can see, we still have plenty of time. Please let me know if I miss= ed anyone, or if anyone wants to add a topic. We mush publish the final ag= enda by Feb/24. The WG was assigned a slot on Friday morning at 9am. We will require that = all the authors submit slides by EOD on Tuesday March/4. Thanks! Alvaro. --_000_CF3134BD4D4BBaretanaciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The updated agenda is up.

Authors:  We require your slides by EOD on Tuesday March/4.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On 2/17/14 3:53 PM, "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi!

I just posted the draft agenda for London:  http://www.ietf.org/procee= dings/89/agenda/agenda-89-rtgwg

As you can see, we still have plenty of time.  Please let me know= if I missed anyone, or if anyone wants to add a topic.  We mush publi= sh the final agenda by Feb/24.

The WG was assigned a slot on Friday morning at 9am.  We will req= uire that all the authors submit slides by EOD on Tuesday March/4.

Thanks!

Alvaro.
 --_000_CF3134BD4D4BBaretanaciscocom_-- From nobody Tue Feb 25 07:29:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256491A074D for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:29:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AxG8WaoaQV7O for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730331A0708 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:29:43 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7f2f8e000002cdc-7a-530cb6e636aa Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 42.F4.11484.6E6BC035; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:29:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB109.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.126]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:29:39 -0500 From: Jeff Tantsura To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" , "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: RTGWG chairs Thread-Topic: RTGWG chairs Thread-Index: Ac8xdkZ3Uhs8P/HeR46Xrg1uVcphSgAE1oKAACbo+gA= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:29:38 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.5.121010 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <59DE92FFCFECE043A847384A921246EA@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoO6zbTzBBsf26ln86LnBbPH1WprF 359bGS0uvPnNbHHu6RxGB1aPKb83snosWfKTyeN601V2jxWbVzIGsERx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVw ZTx4f5al4DBPxZoZjewNjD1cXYycHBICJhJnd71jhrDFJC7cW8/WxcjFISRwhFHiSMtkJghn OaPEvhlHWEGq2AQMJP5/O84CYosINDNKnPnj0MXIwcEsECGxvysZJCwsICnxqmkvK0SJlETj /wlMELaVRM+XyWDLWARUJXZN3c4K0sorYC7x95MSSJhTQF+i7VoP2HRGoHu+n1oD1sosIC5x 68l8Jog7BSSW7DkPdbOoxMvH/8BWiQroSbQdO8MOEVeS+Ph7PjtEr47Egt2f2CBsa4kTu56w QNjaEssWvgabwysgKHFy5hOWCYzis5Csm4WkfRaS9llI2mchaV/AyLqKkaO0OLUsN93IcBMj MAaPSbA57mBc8MnyEKM0B4uSOO+Xt85BQgLpiSWp2ampBalF8UWlOanFhxiZODilGhhlMl9m HN3xPV8huaNYZsLPFPYfP1MvlrRv8z0usseQ/0u9tM46FwZtEa89NqLX9ILPRN2vVfS9+lw/ 9JcQx7ajOc9mPf125Sjb5Myac5KTolj+zMhTlDq55mCc71nnpEVFrOsvu5df8b7F0blwTa+k eGV+jyj/r5CZk1kiPy1um/AiOtToQpQSS3FGoqEWc1FxIgAeplVVjwIAAA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/Oq5677fRNrtfaS_ZhjmGaMz7eDw Cc: Alia Atlas , "Stewart Bryant \(stbryant\)" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 15:29:45 -0000 Thanks Alvaro! It's an honor and privilege to serve in this role. Looking forward to working with all the great rtgwg folks! Thank you! Cheers, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Alvaro Retana Date: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:55 AM To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Cc: Jeff Tantsura , "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" , Alia Atlas Subject: Re: RTGWG chairs >Welcome Jeff! > >I want to personally thank Alia for her work in rtgwg and for teaching me >when I first became chair. > >Thanks go out to Stewart for his service as the responsible AD of the WG. >I'm looking forward for your continued work! > >Alvaro. > >On 2/24/14 10:37 AM, "Adrian Farrel" wrote: > >>Hi RTGWG, >> >>From the Wednesday evening of the week of IETF-89, Alia will be serving >>as >>Routing AD so it is not appropriate for her to continue to chair a WG in >>the >>Routing Area. Thus, she will be stepping down as co-chair of RTGWG. >> >>I have consulted with Alvaro, Stewart, and Alia, and have decided to >>appoint >>Jeff Tantsura to serve in this role. >>=20 >>Jeff has been ramping up, and we will handle the handover in London. >>Since RTGWG >>is planned to meet on the Friday I expect that Alvaro and Jeff will be at >>the >>front of the room and Alia will have her feet up somewhere at the back >>acting as >>AD. >> >>Jeff can be reached at jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com. >>=20 >>Thanks, >>Adrian >> >