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Minutes will be post= ed within a few days. Thanks, Chris and Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Chris Bowers=20 Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 12:39 PM To: 'rtgwg@ietf.org' Cc: 'rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org' ; 'rtgwg-ads@ietf.org' <= rtgwg-ads@ietf.org> Subject: RE: RTGWG Virtual Interim Meeting: May 31, 2016 RTGWG, We are sending out one last reminder for the virtual interim on Tuesday. Many of the presentation have been posted, and they can be found at the=20 links in the agenda. We look forward to an interesting meeting tomorrow. Thanks, Chris and Jeff https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2016/05/31/rtgwg/agenda/agenda-int= erim-2016-rtgwg-1 RTGWG Virtual Interim Meeting=20 Tuesday, May 31, 2016=20 10:00 am | Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) | 2 hrs=20 Meeting link: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dma9394d256b2331260bd5416dc08fb5bd Meeting number: 648 728 108=20 Meeting password:interim1 Join by phone (US/Canada): 1-650-479-3208 Here is the iCalendar invite as well: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm4ab707a77ed821f6978b2614f15cff96 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Bowers=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:48 AM To: rtgwg@ietf.org Cc: homenet@ietf.org; v6ops@ietf.org; rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org; rtgwg-ads@ietf= .org Subject: RE: RTGWG Virtual Interim Meeting: May 31, 2016 RTGWG, We have posted the tentative agenda for the RTGWG Virtual Interim=20 on Tuesday, May 31. It can be found at: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2016/05/31/rtgwg/agenda/agenda-int= erim-2016-rtgwg-1 Thanks to everyone who volunteered to present. We should have a very=20 interesting set of presentations and discussions. Here is the iCalendar invite as well: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm4ab707a77ed821f6978b2614f15cff96 Thanks, Chris and Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Chris Bowers [mailto:cbowers@juniper.net]=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:11 AM To: rtgwg@ietf.org; v6ops@ietf.org; homenet@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org; routin= g-discussion@ietf.org Cc: rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org; rtgwg-ads@ietf.org Subject: RTGWG Virtual Interim Meeting: May 31, 2016 RTGWG,=20 RTGWG will hold a virtual interim meeting on Tuesday May 31, 2016 from=20 10:00-12:00 Eastern Daylight Time (14:00-16:00 UTC).=20 The virtual interim will focus on the problem of ipv6 multi-homing with=20 provider-assigned addressing without NAT, and a proposed solution for=20 this problem, destination/source routing.=20 We have contacted several potential presenters based on the discussion=20 of this topic in Buenos Aires and on the RTGWG list and in v6ops. If you=20 are interested in presenting at this virtual interim and we have not=20 already contacted you, please contact us at rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org. We=20 are particularly interested in hearing from enterprises and service=20 providers, who are the ones affected by this problem and would need to=20 deploy and operate any solution we come up with.=20 A detailed agenda will be posted to the rtgwg mailing list at least a=20 week before the meeting. This initial announcement is being posted to rtgwg, v6ops, homenet,=20 6man, and routing-discussion mailing lists. We only plan to post=20 follow-up email related to this virtual interim to the rtgwg list, so=20 please subscribe to the rtgwg mailing list if you are interested in=20 following this. The WebEx details are as follows: RTGWG Virtual Interim Meeting=20 Tuesday, May 31, 2016=20 10:00 am | Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00) | 2 hrs=20 Meeting link: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dma9394d256b2331260bd5416dc08fb5bd Meeting number: 648 728 108=20 Meeting password:interim1 Join by phone (US/Canada): 1-650-479-3208 International dial-in (PDF):=20 Thanks, Chris and Jeff From nobody Wed Jun 1 11:22:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5E12D1E8 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:22:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuXkOSu8yQCk for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x235.google.com (mail-pf0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF3EF12D1C2 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x235.google.com with SMTP id b124so19810559pfb.0 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :mime-version; bh=ALMsjg93/s4Oa4yfLpndAh6nagslBS9lCNCQu2ehrSE=; b=fmO4EaewuvtFjQVw/BzE1iVyH98UAef4OxITy+fmzNeNeJXNBXXdGi8gz2w3h41THv 9Xwh0+832GqQUBuOInbg+L6zW1fEewEsH42nCksN81kmk2EQFJpCuWB8/y9/UpP06S/w jlMDhpzoPmQhU5UVOxQ699MLkVw5NhTUuhuam2WQrVqGx3IpKgF8dOekt4xY26ReIALk iMEkiQiTsj5/opl/FX/id/6wcLKcHwpsoSnJ6bLlJljf2zPGfziqTcsvQrP8WK11Ry9D OMkVr4C534+KWN+uG2ELe+J+ittLxh911VqoOw8t/xNoYWaQSdFb6jMpchn7vbK2nd5m EqAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id :thread-topic:mime-version; bh=ALMsjg93/s4Oa4yfLpndAh6nagslBS9lCNCQu2ehrSE=; b=aKpJfHqzGqcnPMoz0II5tBVuzKReidgtMAEkASD7Y/pmAPwMUNLHelt9Q1AR3mj2/c fZESaGqgDnyWeqpRfxLHPFvGGTd5ZtLUJHUIPi363zSxcs0eCEi2cR6QqeoK8OtWYm2j 7/AFKWsC7LKSFWQpDwToS2iJCIDl9rANmgGAZLvy9Zd0kQIfOUixj74iv64s35pGH/8M rCQoMLn0q2MpV1ZigJCif6epjO8d6/RurDYnRtUhfJErfZyQa5oFicb6z2X06TpkWdvx MRA37rDRWxQjxQTeg5f+JQYcEQE20gG5UXNQ9D/xRJrbok4jSA7e454p35IImYmOPo0R Ue8g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ2EBK4SKG900UluypiBsZNZpBaxFX4B7u/ZwedybN3PA+FxTJGD4tC6wnAFlw5ZA== X-Received: by 10.98.7.154 with SMTP id 26mr11466086pfh.2.1464805376368; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.28] ([76.126.247.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n190sm49788888pfn.23.2016.06.01.11.22.55 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.16.0.160506 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:22:57 -0700 Subject: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay From: Jeff Tantsura To: RTGWG Message-ID: <946A5C94-DADE-40FA-822A-2D356DDFC2C5@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3547624978_1859454498" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:22:58 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3547624978_1859454498 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear RTGWG, We think draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay is ready for WGLC and looking for a shepherd. Thank you in advance, Jeff and Chris --B_3547624978_1859454498 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Dear RTGWG,

 

We think draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay is ready for WGLC and look= ing for a shepherd.

 

Thank you in advance,

Jeff and Chris

= --B_3547624978_1859454498-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 11:23:07 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A68A12D5FB for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5UvrZw_E1eT for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x234.google.com (mail-pf0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F82B12D1D9 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id f144so19771421pfa.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:23:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic :mime-version; bh=TQ5sFjj8NycGE62flCL3ysE68R7nhQay+j/gXU+DFcM=; b=pumppzvnq8uKZRUo8rAVODP+qlc8ysDYi0JjAg6q4Ej1jiJ2WVgexW9Po8NnNHyhd4 AWzT7ZHgj1nGmIGp10zf1U81BewRBN1lIlvarmn63ljOOtW4zDXY+ZRyQVQm6aSZdEtp uKuHQQlFksuGk10FBPa0AjbhCdsTy03NJsQAl6x8DV3fllNfN+e6ymfQQIbJgI7d6H4E nm8WdIoaj48RaTRE55N/ybgB/KBcdZfVHgjP45QmS0XQza9/rwed8xr251L+e2nuPGOp gmcYwbc02uoezAu0QMKK+yb6V/H7hoeQQ5spITPJeozhhsTIEbT8F7xYjM37m1wiOx5Q dgRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id :thread-topic:mime-version; bh=TQ5sFjj8NycGE62flCL3ysE68R7nhQay+j/gXU+DFcM=; b=iYJkcLIDreLCj1mPlHpZ2ohU6CmyLzHFWlYGt+SLs/ilKRVlflY2zGx0CMzW7enHqU U9l5Rig5wBoJs1gk1W4yJoSpg68c6KJN+Y3DxU50y1F6DbgHRyQYTP9wmpr5eTkgYhs5 EObsF/hE4iBMPlGFSzvh0pzbk+JKUybi0tIGWVRowZPHsJAikNMOcEqf2/XCbUuOaoHJ uwDx3MNxgWBUTMSgIImUiBaA+NT/U3OSgzxX/Vo/HVa/A5cvE9C3dzKMGWEY3bRLmkqb ruugvLBuslI7WM2/m0Zts2Sebdwwp4vRHrffX7cTENPOS3Z4JSvzhobZOtY4HGmvCU+K Qk1A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKAi1iLntTZuxRwcnlekqXE+qk1IzfD9gbBjohjqd6sXpmVaputmSe2h54WrDiyLA== X-Received: by 10.98.14.147 with SMTP id 19mr11326168pfo.36.1464805380199; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.28] ([76.126.247.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n190sm49788888pfn.23.2016.06.01.11.22.59 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:22:59 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.16.0.160506 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:23:01 -0700 Subject: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic From: Jeff Tantsura To: RTGWG Message-ID: <857BF096-E1AD-4C08-8120-DA72D333E27C@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3547624981_1669074130" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:23:03 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3547624981_1669074130 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear RTGWG, We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready for WGLC and looking for a shepherd. Thank you in advance, Jeff and Chris --B_3547624981_1669074130 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Dear RTGWG,

 

We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready for = WGLC and looking for a shepherd.

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thank you in advance,

Jeff and Chris

 

--B_3547624981_1669074130-- From nobody Fri Jun 3 00:15:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE39B12D1AB; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 00:15:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-02.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160603071532.1484.33106.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:15:32 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 07:15:33 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Microloop prevention by introducing a local convergence delay Authors : Stephane Litkowski Bruno Decraene Clarence Filsfils Pierre Francois Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-02.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2016-06-03 Abstract: This document describes a mechanism for link-state routing protocols to prevent local transient forwarding loops in case of link failure. This mechanism Proposes a two-steps convergence by introducing a delay between the convergence of the node adjacent to the topology change and the network wide convergence. As this mechanism delays the IGP convergence it may only be used for planned maintenance or when fast reroute protects the traffic between the link failure and the IGP convergence. The proposed mechanism will be limited to link down event in order to keep simplicity. Simulations using real network topologies have been performed and show that local loops are a significant portion (>50%) of the total forwarding loops. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Jun 4 18:11:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839F412B01B; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:11:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160605011113.4297.62872.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 18:11:13 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 01:11:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Use of BGP for routing in large-scale data centers Authors : Petr Lapukhov Ariff Premji Jon Mitchell Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2016-06-04 Abstract: Some network operators build and operate data centers that support over one hundred thousand servers. In this document, such data centers are referred to as "large-scale" to differentiate them from smaller infrastructures. Environments of this scale have a unique set of network requirements with an emphasis on operational simplicity and network stability. This document summarizes operational experience in designing and operating large-scale data centers using BGP as the only routing protocol. The intent is to report on a proven and stable routing design that could be leveraged by others in the industry. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 6 08:34:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5924C12D810 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:34:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cGwU2RSeZlKp for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cappuccino.rob.sh (cappuccino.rob.sh [IPv6:2a03:9800:10:4c::cafe:b00c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B628B12D812 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2602:4b:a27f:3000:451a:6463:d3b1:5cc8] (helo=piccolo.rob.sh.mail) by cappuccino.rob.sh with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1b9wX6-0004j8-N5; Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:33:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:33:55 -0600 From: Rob Shakir To: RTGWG , Jeff Tantsura Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <857BF096-E1AD-4C08-8120-DA72D333E27C@gmail.com> References: <857BF096-E1AD-4C08-8120-DA72D333E27C@gmail.com> Subject: Re: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic X-Mailer: Airmail Beta (364) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="575597e3_8de2f22_1f89" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 15:34:04 -0000 --575597e3_8de2f22_1f89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jeff, I haven=E2=80=99t reviewed this one for a while, but would be happy to ac= t as its shepherd - assuming you did not have any other volunteers. I=E2=80= =99ll take an initial review this week with a view to assisting with a sh= epherd=E2=80=99s review for IESG. Thanks, r. On 1 June 2016 at 12:23:27, Jeff Tantsura (jefftant.ietf=40gmail.com) wro= te: Dear RTGWG, =C2=A0 We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready for WGLC and = looking for a shepherd. =C2=A0 Thank you in advance, Jeff and Chris =C2=A0 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =20 rtgwg mailing list =20 rtgwg=40ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg =20 --575597e3_8de2f22_1f89 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

Dear RTGWG,

 

The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt:=

draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-= device-model;=C2=A0 draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni= -model as working group documents.

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There was good support during the last IETF = meeting.

Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016.

 

If you are listed= as a document author or contributor please respond to this email stating of= whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be = sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not advance to the next st= age until a response has been received from each author and each individual = that has contributed to the document.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff & Chris

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and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------1552ceca42271b2281842c0c6f8" X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 172.58.184.174 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 22:12:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------1552ceca42271b2281842c0c6f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +1 Also don't know about any relevant ipr. Lou (co-author) On June 7, 2016 5:20:53 PM "Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > As an author, I support RTG WG adoption of these documents and am happy > they are being homed in the RTG WG. > > I don’ t know of any relevant IPR on any of the three documents or YANG models. > > Thanks, > Acee > > From: rtgwg > on > behalf of Jeff Tantsura > > > Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM > To: Routing WG > > Subject: working group adoption call for > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model > > Dear RTGWG, > > The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group documents. > > There was good support during the last IETF meeting. > Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The > response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not > advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each > author and each individual that has contributed to the document. > > Thanks, > > Jeff & Chris > > > > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > ------------1552ceca42271b2281842c0c6f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

+1

Also don't know about any relevant ipr.

Lou  (co-author)

On June 7, 2016 5:20:53 PM "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Jeff, 

As an author, I support RTG WG adoption of these documents and am happy they are being homed in the RTG WG. 

I don’ t know of any relevant IPR on any of the three documents or YANG models. 

Thanks,
Acee 

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM
To: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model

Dear RTGWG,

 

The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt:

draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model;  draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group documents.

 

There was good support during the last IETF meeting.

Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016.

 

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and each individual that has contributed to the document.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff & Chris

 

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Jeff Tantsura writes: > Dear RTGWG, > > > > The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: > > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group documents. > > > > There was good support during the last IETF meeting. > > Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. > > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and each individual that has contributed to the document. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeff & Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXWDR3AAoJEC4dgw7XuDAl8z8P/28t7MPaqXuN3p06KXTK3u69 jHl+KycQBWPcpztMiJNjK8tfbMUSZC56ecWyMxpkmp0gMpz0C3lZKLxEBqqVewqm lKc1nsF9fVHG/aLx/cSSQXAscjVIzl8sdh9e5eXU1Lit8oz8YMDXIgGXbhaPMHXs Anitof5gbbmP+htP+yE3xPl842Eph7FZpHECB5IT3bo3HkkV98R+kFsliki4OegR Qk49JHu9fM1qO7GIGf3r1E13ABapukc5MeQ7BqliYIrOh+ga5XJ6qjTXkToyrlhk 1nc15umcbCfumQL5hsG+pooXy1ILeMHNzKYrwYNbQb/8bOX607gkwu/SXLluJUMw dtOx1rf7Gj6+xoQlwwpvO4XXh33aQ83AUhtSSOECkCmqRyDL9BZWqFapvWLuEp0W 4tLEI5DUndu+4ZlJzoqNpJIczzcK9qHXh5yVjsYNhZlxBHdNgOoOL96yByARWRVO 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working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model Thread-Topic: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model Thread-Index: AQHRwQFax+R0hpAEkUaVai22JHaHWZ/g3CIA Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:12:45 +0000 Message-ID: <31300_1465463566_5759330E_31300_1023_1_9E32478DFA9976438E7A22F69B08FF921BC487E7@OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <8A056C97-7D5A-4A52-8D55-19BEC054E2BD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8A056C97-7D5A-4A52-8D55-19BEC054E2BD@gmail.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.5] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9E32478DFA9976438E7A22F69B08FF921BC487E7OPEXCLILMA4corp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.2.1.2478543, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2016.6.7.90315 Archived-At: 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[98.191.72.170]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h184sm696219lfg.5.2016.06.09.06.16.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jun 2016 06:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xufeng Liu" To: "'Jeff Tantsura'" , "'RTGWG'" References: <8A056C97-7D5A-4A52-8D55-19BEC054E2BD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8A056C97-7D5A-4A52-8D55-19BEC054E2BD@gmail.com> Subject: RE: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 09:16:30 -0400 Message-ID: <022201d1c251$246e6850$6d4b38f0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0223_01D1C22F.9D5D8BA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQH5zy4guBCMgVTauSoQIxBHtSmEQZ+RA8kQ Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 13:22:20 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0223_01D1C22F.9D5D8BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. =20 Regards, =20 - Xufeng =20 From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 5:13 PM To: RTGWG Subject: working group adoption call for = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model =20 Dear RTGWG, =20 The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group documents. =20 There was good support during the last IETF meeting. Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. =20 If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to = this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. = The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document = will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received = from each author and each individual that has contributed to the = document. =20 Thanks, =20 Jeff & Chris =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0223_01D1C22F.9D5D8BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support.

 

Regards,

 

- = Xufeng

 

From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 5:13 = PM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: working = group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model

 

Dear RTGWG,

 

The authors have = requested the RTGWG to adopt:

draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model;  = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as = working group documents.

 

There was good = support during the last IETF meeting.

Please indicate = support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016.

 

If you are listed as = a document author or contributor please respond to this email stating of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to = be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not advance to the = next stage until a response has been received from each author and each = individual that has contributed to the document.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeff & = Chris

 

------=_NextPart_000_0223_01D1C22F.9D5D8BA0-- From nobody Fri Jun 10 06:41:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BC612D5D0 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.326 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.326 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qWHw_sJKSKh4 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 06:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.chopps.org (smtp.chopps.org [54.88.81.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0812D5B8 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 06:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tops.chopps.org (mobile-166-176-251-188.mycingular.net [166.176.251.188]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by smtp.chopps.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D60861122; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:41:21 +0000 (UTC) References: <8A056C97-7D5A-4A52-8D55-19BEC054E2BD@gmail.com> <87shwnzpmw.fsf@tops.chopps.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 24.5.1 From: To: Jeff Tantsura Subject: Re: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model In-reply-to: <87shwnzpmw.fsf@tops.chopps.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: <871t4517ra.fsf@tops.chopps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Archived-At: Cc: RTGWG X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:41:24 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain chopps@chopps.org writes: > Support as author. Also unaware of any related IPR. Thanks, Chris. > > Jeff Tantsura writes: > >> Dear RTGWG, >> >> >> >> The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: >> >> draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group documents. >> >> >> >> There was good support during the last IETF meeting. >> >> Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. >> >> >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and each individual that has contributed to the document. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Jeff & Chris >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtgwg mailing list >> rtgwg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXWsN6AAoJEC4dgw7XuDAl4MsP/R8KI9ZUqHKFmRvtDLn+B9pL s4VQ9+UNYhgNep0g1Cwgpt7txEpyCnQQ45pDrO/I43rVgpXvjyHKLqxK6CAPvl81 pUi6YRqNbDlM5tfq9BO4XtgNV4SWdMl7MPw/55ebE4nIKbASmpfgPDRLZXB9qMFN m9aQUZiiarnQ/E74oTvccfd9JEooP6cVVg0zrKJZZnMEKpjn+fmvPD9VJBF/OhsU CRjZf6AdOe0JfV4sIEUzrSYr4E3DuIZpzKK7wpqXt9fI0aWOW9CMlftbcX3XNlTJ 87RuY7/8AOKXtENa5zFeTCNXUtBgO2R2p9uZY4Aw6uM7/a/Hi2iGlaYR2XDerrbQ /FdWLRanwlP99iN6G/v0kFWWwUGpvwvGNlZxHNQRccNqjquNsUlxrE7jIlZCVgwX ui0F1siTh6uWGq6YpDCamRb+bu1AANh2GYdf66Q+2Y5BX7+oifGchtjU5z+oZcjW ARgGipD8zWgZbzgCiJuJaNf/ZEvmLbhqjj284djoEQfb17G5vl89SO9BmsDWMscK 6IfRAbTBzGClmchYKVoxG8U1GlRb9sKbyHLiRyxE96uup+uaHRGGS5BIw0MKzXEn oqvi36Z0i7sHpS6rOHwrdW3T/yI0umzCH4ouWeHRu9rbniRnL6ri/Mrquo2EKZVB jDl4sN4Lx5IAuOGdR98F =R+X6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Fri Jun 10 08:06:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200B812D746 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:06:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5JB4yE1Wx-4t for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5853C12D742 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id v199so152667781wmv.0 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:cc:message-id:thread-topic :references:in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=YBgZoYJnJl3pS9vcZ6YeDb6z38dbhHGbHv3hpzF4QYE=; b=V1tAGV/QjwqBunQMamgVcLNsmOfDQvRmvm+xIR1Ja1r2ctppemFjwDMV8V9uWoYyTb NaCc/hLhX2VkEgw0An6fOLqgf5D3ZCiDiT0BcKsHE9wNbetErndihwEEZugsNrqBuGb6 wBwS/HN2j4CCJM9ABVJ2npogy0m9E6GbS6JnXdrRleDEKSJozdT1Wr3p7+blzlm5G+Qf pwtlcCq1Y23zpt64NhOH6/Fwt5otnZhFbWowtgqu2yZdUHzKdwvzLa2zeWf28DMdBk4O QwOXXoN8YNRIpTvIyH1CRv0xP/gUj0bet7iiYG8pDD+aF3yV86Mm36sR4oTS9E36+vzB Ezeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:cc:message-id :thread-topic:references:in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=YBgZoYJnJl3pS9vcZ6YeDb6z38dbhHGbHv3hpzF4QYE=; b=h8o50Czzcy60zjil0HD7P3uRyUdMciYI0JdhMeXqJmxRQ96h6aIb2WnQ9zhc88eueF NYbWtHVjQ9ftWL2DqrmSVeS2joBK9ej2zDpqj7NSf4wufxPcnGVTAdBmnYs2XaxqIL6T Ehhz6NqfaR38+iCv4E4Ka2ttqDYPH41Ul3tYufTzdmjFn/MPi5uhcWfpnK1Y1t4s5302 BjO2HbpG0QUdCa9NYKCPbm7orkMknGikX0Qej3P75vqiNHCUGbQH/sBs+QnEGfOmolJW gRpuE/rnTLhb8DTXj9wOQ1ckLrYpOeDc9Z5LtPc1YOHhIMykbU8+e3gKRVdVDtVzAql5 /LvA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLhE4VGCBC6qwBCbW95JdbwbOmwu+bY2YPUabagfgSC2ltn+2TS7e52K+ecNuxyRA== X-Received: by 10.28.215.139 with SMTP id o133mr3247086wmg.74.1465571157832; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.204] (94-43-130-14.dsl.utg.ge. [94.43.130.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m5sm3738201wmm.10.2016.06.10.08.05.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:05:57 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.16.0.160506 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:05:56 -0700 Subject: Re: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay From: Jeff Tantsura To: RTGWG Message-ID: <5A17DE17-736D-4EC3-8BD9-7233F1CBB796@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay References: <946A5C94-DADE-40FA-822A-2D356DDFC2C5@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <946A5C94-DADE-40FA-822A-2D356DDFC2C5@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3548390756_1393507291" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:06:01 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3548390756_1393507291 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ignas, =20 Thank you for volunteering! Looking forward to your review. =20 Please note =E2=80=93 you=E2=80=99d need to create a Datatracker account, https://datat= racker.ietf.org/accounts/create/ Please update me when done. =20 Thanks, Jeff & Chris =20 From: Jeff Tantsura Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:22 AM To: RTGWG Subject: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay =20 Dear RTGWG, =20 We think draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay is ready for WGLC and looking for a s= hepherd. =20 Thank you in advance, Jeff and Chris --B_3548390756_1393507291 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ignas,

Thank you for volunteering!

Looking forward to your review.

 

Please note –= you’d need to create a Datatracker account, https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/=

= Please update me when done.

 

Thanks,

Jeff & Chris

 

From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: W= ednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:22 AM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>= ;
Subject: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay=

 

Dear RTGWG,<= /p>

 

We think draft-ietf-r= tgwg-uloop-delay is ready for WGLC and looking for a shepherd.

 =

Thank you in adv= ance,

Jeff and Chris

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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3548390378_280838184 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rob, =20 Thank you for volunteering! Looking forward to your review. =20 Ahmed/authors =E2=80=93 the draft has expired =E2=80=93 please update the draft and add= ress the comments received. =20 Thanks, Jeff & Chris=20 =20 From: Rob Shakir Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:33 AM To: RTGWG , Jeff Tantsura Subject: Re: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic =20 Hi Jeff, =20 I haven=E2=80=99t reviewed this one for a while, but would be happy to act as its= shepherd - assuming you did not have any other volunteers. I=E2=80=99ll take an i= nitial review this week with a view to assisting with a shepherd=E2=80=99s review = for IESG. =20 Thanks, r. On 1 June 2016 at 12:23:27, Jeff Tantsura (jefftant.ietf@gmail.com) wrote: Dear RTGWG, =20 We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready for WGLC and lo= oking for a shepherd. =20 Thank you in advance, Jeff and Chris =20 _______________________________________________=20 rtgwg mailing list=20 rtgwg@ietf.org=20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg=20 --B_3548390378_280838184 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Rob,

 

Thank you for vo= lunteering!

Looking forward to your review.=

 

Ahmed/authors – the draft has expired – plea= se update the draft and address the comments received.

=

&= nbsp;

Thanks,

Jeff & Chris

 

From: Rob Shakir <rjs@rob.sh>
Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 = at 8:33 AM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, Jeff Tantsura <jef= ftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: looking for a shepherd for d= raft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic

<= o:p> 

Hi Jeff,

 

=

I haven’t reviewed this one for a while, but wo= uld be happy to act as its shepherd - assuming you did not have any other vo= lunteers. I’ll take an initial review this week with a view to assisti= ng with a shepherd’s review for IESG.

 

Thank= s,

r.

On 1 June 2016 at 12:23:27, Jeff Tantsura (jefftant.ietf@gmail.com) wrote:

Dear RTGWG,

=  

We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready = for WGLC and looking for a shepherd.

 

= Thank you in advance,

= Jeff and Chris

 <= /span>

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Dear RTGWG,

The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt:

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp a= s working group document.

There was good support during the last IETF meeting.<= /o:p>

Please ind= icate support or no-support by June 24th, 2016.

If you are listed as a document auth= or or contributor, please respond to this email stating of whether or not yo= u are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG = mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a respon= se has been received from each author and each individual that has contribut= ed to the document.

Thanks,

Jeff & Chris

 

--B_3548391141_1087527530-- From nobody Fri Jun 10 08:13:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3045E12D0D9; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:13:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , Subject: The RTGWG WG has placed draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160610151318.15499.31072.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:13:18 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:13:18 -0000 The RTGWG WG has placed draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp in state 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(Postfix) with ESMTPS; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:39:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9382004E; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:39:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3--FaRsB51k; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:39:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418F920047; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 371FE3B1DC5D; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:39:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:39:31 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09 (Reply to this one - corrected the draft alias) Message-ID: <20160613063930.GB20531@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , Kent Watsen , "netconf@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain@ietf.org" , Routing WG References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0 (2016-04-01) Archived-At: Cc: "netconf@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain@ietf.org" , Routing WG X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:39:43 -0000 Yes, both ietf-routing-key-chain and ietf-system-keychain seem to be misleading module names. I think the module names should express what makes these two keychain modules different and they should not reflect where the keys might be used. /js On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:03:44PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > I’m about to update this key-chain module and would like to restore the name of simply key-chain since I’ve received negative feedback on the the change to routing-key-chain since it will likely be used for a myriad of non-routing applications. > > Kent - would you be opposed to this? Note that your company’s products refer to the model as simply “key-chain”. > > http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos14.2/topics/reference/configuration-statement/key-chain-edit-security-authentication-key-chains.html > > Thanks, > Acee > > From: rtgwg > on behalf of Acee Lindem > > Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM > To: Mahesh Jethanandani > > Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-keychain@ietf.org" >, Routing WG >, Martin Bjorklund >, Tom Petch >, "netconf@ietf.org" > > Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09 > > So hopefully we’ve put the issue of combining the module to bed for good… If look at the date nodes for these two models, it is patently clear that these serve two different purposes. > > What about the naming issue? I got a comment that I should take “routing-“ back out due to the fact that this is what that these key-chains can be used for many non-routing purposes. For example, BFD - http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos14.2/topics/reference/configuration-statement/key-chain-edit-security-authentication-key-chains.html > > Thanks, > Acee > > From: rtgwg > on behalf of Acee Lindem > > Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:04 PM > To: Mahesh Jethanandani > > Cc: Martin Bjorklund >, Tom Petch >, "netconf@ietf.org" >, "draft-ietf-rtgwg-keychain@ietf.org" >, Routing WG > > Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09 > > > > From: Mahesh Jethanandani > > Date: Monday, April 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM > To: Acee Lindem > > Cc: Kent Watsen >, Tom Petch >, Martin Bjorklund >, "netconf@ietf.org" >, Routing WG >, "draft-ietf-rtgwg-keychain@ietf.org" > > Subject: Re: [Netconf] mbj review of draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09 > > > On Apr 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > I did get some negative feedback with respect to adding “routing-“ to the > model name since key chains are used for other non-routing applications as > well. > > One of those non-routing protocols is BFD. I am fine if the model is called protocol-key-chain, but I wonder what happens the next entity needing key-chain is not a protocol. > > The bigger question in my mind is, are these really different types of key-chains models, or are we talking about one key-chain model? > > The rtgwg key chain model is the one we all know and love associated with the graceful rollover of configurable keys. The netconf model is list of certificates for a public key. Please look at the information content of the two models. I hope I don’t have to answer this question again ;^) > > Acee > > > > > > Mahesh Jethanandani > mjethanandani@gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From nobody Mon Jun 13 06:23:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F2412D675; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no 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boundary="_000_AM4PR06MB147430331D1A026F8507CBEFDF530AM4PR06MB1474eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: kuatrotech.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 13 Jun 2016 14:37:36.5734 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 99314f4e-50ab-4d4e-a9c6-b21b0c887384 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM4PR06MB1475 Archived-At: Cc: Xufeng Liu X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:37:59 -0000 --_000_AM4PR06MB147430331D1A026F8507CBEFDF530AM4PR06MB1474eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not aware of any relevant IPR. Role: co-author; my email address is changing from athanasios.kyparlis@ericsson.com to akyparlis@kuatrotech.com. As a co-author, I support the adoption of the VRRP by the WG. Thanks, Athanasios Kyparlis From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:12 AM To: RTGWG > Cc: rtgwg-chairs >; dra= ft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp@ietf.org Subject: working group adoption call for draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp Dear RTGWG, The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp as working group document. There was good support during the last IETF meeting. Please indicate support or no-support by June 24th, 2016. If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to th= is email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The r= esponse needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not a= dvance to the next stage until a response has been received from each autho= r and each individual that has contributed to the document. Thanks, Jeff & Chris --_000_AM4PR06MB147430331D1A026F8507CBEFDF530AM4PR06MB1474eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am not aware of any relevant IPR.

 

Role: co-author;

my email address is changing from athanasios.kyparlis@ericsson.com to akyparlis@kuatrotech.com.

 

As a co-author, I support the adoption of the VRRP b= y the WG.

 

Thanks,

Athanasios Kyparlis

 

 

From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.ietf@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:12 AM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org&g= t;
Cc: rtgwg-chairs <rtgwg-= chairs@ietf.org>; draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-= vrrp@ietf.org
Subject: working group adoption call for draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp <= o:p>

 

Dear RTGWG,

 

The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt:<= /o:p>

draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp as working group document.=

 

There was good support during the last IETF meeting.=

Please indicate support or no-support by June 24th, = 2016.

 

If you are listed as a document author or contributo= r, please respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of = any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. = The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and each in= dividual that has contributed to the document.

 

Thanks,

Jeff & Chris

 

 

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<20160610151318.15499.31072.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: The RTGWG WG has placed draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:12:25 +0800 Message-ID: <010801d1c7a6$d96c3160$8c449420$@org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdHDKqJV9t4+jt6JRPiT99syLXCLjQEZ5cOwAAUigrA= Content-Language: zh-cn X-CM-TRANSID: Z0GX06Cr0wCWWWJXsyAfAg==.35569S2 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U3129KBjvdXoWrtrWUuFW8ZF13ZryrtryDAwb_yoWfZrgE9F 4xWrW8Zw4DXFs7K3W5ZFZ8Kr1fXw1UWr47K34UtF4Ivr4UZr48trWqq3y3WF17WrWq9w15 GFn3J34Fkry5WjkaLaAFLSUrUUUUUbIjqfuFe4nvWSU5nxnvy29KBjDU0xBIdaVrnhxYjs xI4VWUJwAqx4xG64xvF2IEw4CE5I8CrVC2j2Wlb4IE77IF4wAFF20E14v26r1j6r4UM7C2 6xCjj4IEI4klw4CSwwAFxVCaYxvI4VCIwcAKzIAtMcIj6x8ErcxFaVAv8VW8AwC2zVAF1V AY17CE14v26r126r1D0xZFpf9x0JUgSdgUUUUU= Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 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BTW, Is there any device vendor having implemented this Yang? Best Regards. Aijun Wang China=A0Telecom=A0Corporation=A0Limited=A0Beijing=A0Research=A0Institute = Network Research and Operation Support Department -----Original Message----- From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IETF = Secretariat Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:13 PM To: rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org; draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: The RTGWG WG has placed draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp in state "Candidate for WG Adoption" The RTGWG WG has placed draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp in state Candidate for = WG Adoption (entered by Jeff Tantsura) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp/ _______________________________________________ rtgwg mailing list rtgwg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From nobody Thu Jun 16 05:10:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B0912D099; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 05:10:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Stephen Farrell" To: "The IESG" Subject: Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11: (with COMMENT) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.22.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160616121042.10520.3637.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 05:10:42 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc@ietf.org, rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org, jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com, rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:10:42 -0000 Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I would have liked to know a bit more about how these schemes behave if some of the servers or say a ToR device in the DC are considered as attackers e.g. having been compromised, but you only mention attacks from outside the DC. I assume the answer is to not accept servers as BGP speakers, but I'm not sure how you do that reliably. And I also don't know whether or not ToR devices are successfully attacked often. 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The authors have re= quested the RTGWG to adopt:

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--94eb2c12953a72d88405356b54e0-- From nobody Thu Jun 16 16:11:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AFB12DD57; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3NA7XjTwCdpp; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA24C12D833; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id DF91DB80C2F; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:21 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 7811 on An Algorithm for Computing IP/LDP Fast Reroute Using Maximally Redundant Trees (MRT-FRR) X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20160616231121.DF91DB80C2F@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:11:24 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7811 Title: An Algorithm for Computing IP/LDP Fast Reroute Using Maximally Redundant Trees (MRT-FRR) Author: G. Enyedi, A. Csaszar, A. Atlas, C. Bowers, A. Gopalan Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: June 2016 Mailbox: Gabor.Sandor.Enyedi@ericsson.com, Andras.Csaszar@ericsson.com, akatlas@juniper.net, cbowers@juniper.net, abishek@ece.arizona.edu Pages: 118 Characters: 266847 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm-09.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7811 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7811 This document supports the solution put forth in "An Architecture for IP/LDP Fast Reroute Using Maximally Redundant Trees (MRT-FRR)" (RFC 7812) by defining the associated MRT Lowpoint algorithm that is used in the Default MRT Profile to compute both the necessary Maximally Redundant Trees with their associated next hops and the alternates to select for MRT-FRR. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Thu Jun 16 16:11:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24C712DD5C; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.028 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.028 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EALqKoRQf9Ew; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0930312DD74; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C6148B80C37; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:28 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 7812 on An Architecture for IP/LDP Fast Reroute Using Maximally Redundant Trees (MRT-FRR) X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20160616231128.C6148B80C37@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rtgwg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:11:37 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7812 Title: An Architecture for IP/LDP Fast Reroute Using Maximally Redundant Trees (MRT-FRR) Author: A. Atlas, C. Bowers, G. Enyedi Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: June 2016 Mailbox: akatlas@juniper.net, cbowers@juniper.net, Gabor.Sandor.Enyedi@ericsson.com Pages: 44 Characters: 110616 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-architecture-10.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7812 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7812 This document defines the architecture for IP and LDP Fast Reroute using Maximally Redundant Trees (MRT-FRR). MRT-FRR is a technology that gives link-protection and node-protection with 100% coverage in any network topology that is still connected after the failure. This document is a product of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Jun 20 11:30:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BCF12D63C; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" Subject: Document Action: 'Use of BGP for routing in large-scale data centers' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11.txt) X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160620183012.30146.18476.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:30:12 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org, jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com, The IESG , draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc@ietf.org, rtgwg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:30:13 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Use of BGP for routing in large-scale data centers' (draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc-11.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Routing Area Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-routing-large-dc/ Technical Summary This document summarizes operational experience in designing and operating large-scale data centers using BGP as the only routing protocol. The intent is to report on a proven and stable routing design that could be leveraged by others in the industry. The design presented in this document is based on operational experience with data centers built to support large-scale distributed software infrastructure. Working Group Summary This draft has been thoroughly discussed in the WG, very good feedback had been provided by SP and vendor community. The draft adoption and progress had received full support from the WG. All comments have been addressed. The draft is ready for publication. Document Quality There are existing implementations and multiple vendors have shown significant interest in the topic. Personnel Jeff Tantsura is the Document Shepherd. Alia Atlas is the Responsible Area Director. From nobody Tue Jun 21 06:46:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6F812B05B; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:46:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , Subject: The RTGWG WG has placed draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160621134627.17032.46932.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:46:27 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:46:27 -0000 The RTGWG WG has placed draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Jeff Tantsura) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model/ From nobody Tue Jun 21 06:47:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7196012B05B; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:47:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , Subject: The RTGWG WG has placed draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160621134714.17182.87226.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:47:14 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:47:14 -0000 The RTGWG WG has placed draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Jeff Tantsura) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model/ From nobody Tue Jun 21 06:47:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BB012B05D; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:47:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , Subject: The RTGWG WG has placed draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160621134743.17119.11187.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:47:43 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:47:43 -0000 The RTGWG WG has placed draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Jeff Tantsura) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model/ From nobody Tue Jun 21 09:26:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187D012D522; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:26:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-01.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.23.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160621162637.17095.7708.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:26:37 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:26:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Abstract Authors : Ahmed Bashandy Clarence Filsfils Prodosh Mohapatra Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-01.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2016-06-21 Abstract: In the network comprising thousands of iBGP peers exchanging millions of routes, many routes are reachable via more than one next-hop. Given the large scaling targets, it is desirable to restore traffic after failure in a time period that does not depend on the number of BGP prefixes. In this document we proposed an architecture by which traffic can be re-routed to ECMP or pre-calculated backup paths in a timeframe that does not depend on the number of BGP prefixes. The objective is achieved through organizing the forwarding data structures in a hierarchical manner and sharing forwarding elements among the maximum possible number of routes. The proposed technique achieves prefix independent convergence while ensuring incremental deployment, complete automation, and zero management and provisioning effort. It is noteworthy to mention that the benefits of BGP-PIC are hinged on the existence of more than one path whether as ECMP or primary-backup. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Jun 21 09:36:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D9212DAC2; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:36:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id inbR_t5BlEtH; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A555812DABE; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=66127; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1466526979; x=1467736579; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to; bh=G/POCDkz+gcLGHfS89HQQKCevkUTipe040Z/G+sSfcw=; b=lU2TSSl+4ajrxMb+mm53W+zq0zJzqVbpEFKEFBW4l0YoHkg/SoGE4+bs m4RvtbCDov5dcZDESPrmvN0sZwiBXHJP05DqpspCvaO/uQ1oRwF9pRMiZ 6paXMtraYcSO9qeeAoD8RDkFNcHEB8obW/hnpt1JidCsLqzB0xnfK7lYn Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,505,1459814400"; d="scan'208,217";a="677846293" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Jun 2016 16:36:16 +0000 Received: from [10.24.17.156] ([10.24.17.156]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u5LGaEfW006251; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:36:14 GMT Message-ID: <57696CFD.8080907@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:36:13 -0700 From: "Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rtg-ads@ietf.org" Subject: Re: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-00 References: <18205_1461160419_571789E3_18205_2694_2_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A0F8761E1@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <18205_1461160419_571789E3_18205_2694_2_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A0F8761E1@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020601090705070702050501" Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic.all@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:36:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020601090705070702050501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Thanks a lot for the detailed review. I submitted version 01. I CCed Jeff and Rob Shakir, who volunteered to be a shepherd (Thanks a lot):):) I have restructured the document to address your comment. Besides I went over all the "Minor issues" as well as "nits" and corrected them, except 1-2 comments which I explained why I did not make the modifications. Version 01 is modified and now it contains an "overview" section. Hence all sections have been shifted by one. So for example, the comment about section 2.3.3 now applies to section 3.2 Please see my reply inline starting with "#Ahmed" Thanks Ahmed On 4/20/2016 6:53 AM, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this > draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or > routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG > review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is > to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about > the Routing Directorate, please see ​ > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, > it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other > IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them > through discussion or by updating the draft. > > Document: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-00 > Reviewer: Bruno Decraene > IETF LC End Date: “QA review” pre WG LC > Intended Status: Informational > > *Summary:* > > I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be > resolved before publication. > > *Comments:* > > - Document is interesting. Document is relatively clear but sometime > it feels like there is a little room for some reformulation/edition to > improve fluidity. In particular, the learning curve is a bit steep at > the beginning of the doc as most of the concepts are introduced in 3 > pages (pages 4-6) in the form of a list of terminology and a pseudo > code. I would find useful to have an overview section just after the > introduction, with a high level view of the solution with a limited > number of new terms. > > - The text feels like authoritative, while probably many terms are > implementation specific. A priori, I would not expect all > implementation of BGP PIC to use the same terms, and possibly not the > same data structure. May be the text could be generalized to cover > multiple implementations; or modified to describe a generalized > concept (i.e. data-structure designed to share as much data as > possible between elements, at the cost of additional indirections); or > the document could state that it describes a specific implementation > with implementations specific terminology, data structure, and > specifics. Or a combination of both (e.g. adding a section being both > generalized and describing the concept, and then the existing sections > after stating that they are specific to one implementation). > #Ahmed: I have restructured the document to make much more general. Please take a look. All feedback is most welcomed. > > *Minor Issues:* > > - I find figure 2 very useful to understand the data-structure. I > would move it sooner in the doc, somewhere before §2.2. (with its > subsequent text below) e.g. a new §2.2 "FIB data-structure" > > It would need to be generalized i.e. example non-specific. I could > think of: > > IP Leaf: Pathlist: IP Leaf: Pathlist: > > -------- --------- ------- -------- > > BGP NLRI ---> BGP NH1 ----> IGP IP1 (BGP NH1) ---> IGP NH1, I1 > ---> Adjacency1 > > BGP NHi --... IGP NHi, Ii --.. > > | | > > | | > > | | > > v v > > OutLabel Array: OutLabel Array: > > -------------- -------------- > > L (NLRI, NH1) L (IP1, NH1) > > L (NLRI, NHi) L (IP1, NHi) > > - Figure 1 could be enhanced with IGP-NH1, IGP-NH2, I1 and I2. > #Ahmed: Corrected > - Example 3 does not use the same naming convention than examples 1 > and 2, this make it harder to follow for a priori no reason. e.g. VPN > labels are named VPN-L11 in examples 1 and 2, but are named > VPN-PE21(P1) in exmaple 3; transport labels are named LDP-L12 in > exmaples 1 and 2, but LASBR11(PE22) and L11 in figure 3. > #Ahmed: I renamed the VPN labels to conform to the convention used in Examples 1 and 2. Also All IGP labels were renamed to IGP-Lij to make them applicable to both LDP and Segment routing. For ASBR labels, we need to differentiate between ASBR labels and IGP labels. Hence the labels advertised by ASBRs are named differently. > - §2.3.3 > > "The local labels of the next hops". > > - All labels are locally assigned. So what do you mean by "local" > > - "next-hop" sometimes refers to IGP/connected next-hop (a priori the > case here) and sometimes to BGP next-hop. I find it hard to follow. I > rather use a different name (e.g; connected next-hop vs BGP next-hop) > #Ahmed: Corrected. > > - §3 > > "the hashing at the BGP level yields path 0 while the hashing at the > IGP level yields path 1. In that case, the packet will be sent out of > interface I1 with the label stack "LDP-L12,VPN-L21". > > Does not seem to match my understanding. For "LDP-L12,VPN-L21" I would > assume BGP used path index 1 and IGP used path index 0. > #Ahmed: Corrected. > > IMHO: > > OLD: "Hence ASBR22 swaps "LASBR22(PE22)" with the LDP/SR label of > PE22, pushes the label of the next-hop towards PE22 in domain 2, and > sends the packet along the shortest path towards PE22." > > NEW: "Hence ASBR22 swaps "LASBR22(PE22)" with the LDP/SR label for > PE22 advertised by the next-hop towards PE22 in domain 2, and sends > the packet along the shortest path towards PE22." > > (in all cases "swaps" then "pushes" would increase the label stack by > 1, which is not the case.) > #Ahmed: Corrected > > §4.1 > > "the useable paths in the loadinfo" > > loadinfo is a proprietary FIB datastructure which has not been > introduced/defined. You need to either remove that term (if possible) > or define it somewhere. > #Ahmed: Corrected. "loadinfo" is replaced with "pathlist", which is the intended term > > "Hence traffic restoration occurs within the time frame of IGP > convergence," > > agree. > > ..."and, for local link failure, within the timeframe of local > detection. Thus it is possible to achieve sub-50 msec convergence as > described in [10] for local link failure" > > IMO, this is restricted to specific cases. e.g. external (eBGP) link > failure, ECMP case, possibly IP FRR. So possibly > > OLD: for local link failure, within the timeframe of local detection. > Thus it is possible to achieve sub-50 msec convergence as described in > [10] for local link failure > > NEW: for local link failure, assuming a backup path has been > precomputed, within the timeframe of local detection (e.g. 50ms). > Example of solutions precomputing a backup path are IP FRR [LFA], > [RLFA], [MRT], [TI-LFA] or eBGP path having a backup path [10]. > #Ahmed: Corrected > > §4 > > I would find useful to indicate, for each type of failure, the number > of data-structure that need to be updated. > #Ahmed: In general it is not always possible to know the number of updated data structures due to a topology change because it depends on the topology itself. For example, in Section 5.1 (The section about BGP-PIC core), it is not possible to outline the datastructures that are modified for a remote link failure. However for local link failure, we added a statement in second paragraph of Section 5.1 indicating that only pathlists with paths using the local link need to be updated. We also indicated in the 3rd paragraph that datastructures are modified starting from the IGP leaves without walking back to BGP pathlists or data structures > > --- > > §4.2.2 > > "To avoid loops, ePE2 MUST treat any core facing path as a backup > > path, otherwise ePE2 may redirect traffic arriving from the core > > back to ePE1 causing a loop." > > Looks a bit under-described to me. Could you please elaborate a bit? > In particular: > > - if 2 PE (PE1, PE2) are connected in U to 2 P (P1, P2) > (P1-PE1-PE2-P2), PE1 being nominal and PE2 only used in backup, in the > nominal situation, if the core network sends the trafic to PE1 via PE2 > (used as a P/transit), how does PE2 know that it must send this > traffic to PE1? (rather than CE2) > > - this behavior looks like an additional specific feature. How doew > ePE1 knows that ePE2 have this feature? > > --- > #Ahmed: The statement is removed. As mentioned in Section 6.1 how to avoid loops in case of CE node failure is a different topic and needs to be addressed separately > > §4.3 > > " Hence if the platform supports the "unflattened" forwarding chain, > > then a single pathlist needs to be updated while if the platform > > supports a shallower forwarding chain, then two pathlists need to be > > updated." > > IINM "single" and "two" pathlist applies to the specific example. In > this last sentence/summary, I'd prefer a more general statement. A > priori, without digging too much in this most complex use case, it > seems like :s/single/o(1) :s/two/o(PE) . The former looks close > (single vs o(1)) but IMHO there is a significant difference between 2 > and o(PE) (i.e. 100s) > #Ahmed: Agreed. The last paragraph is generalized and modified to indicate possible outcomes of flattenning forwarding chains > > --- > > §5.1 > > Good paragraph. It's quite clear that the convergence time does not > depend on the number of BGP prefixes, which is good. For the benefit > of the reader, it would be even more interesting if, for each type of > failure, the text could indicate on what it depends. e.g. o(1), > o(connected interfaces), o(PE), o(PEnominal*PEbackup).... > #Ahmed: Each subsection indicates the convergence time dependency. For example, in Section 6.1.1, the last paragraph says that the dependence is on the IGP convergence time only > > -- > > §7 > > "No additional security risk is introduced by using the mechanisms > proposed in this document" > > In general, with such a sentence, it's difficult to evaluate whether > the authors have very quickly evaluated the risk or if this evaluation > has been performed in details. So in general, some more text detailing > which aspects have been evaluated is interesting for the reader (yet > painful for the authors). > > As the document describe an internal box behavior, this is difficult > to evaluate and discuss. But from a bad experience, I fear that there > may be an impact. Indeed, with such structure, the FIB > structure/memory is typically different between BGP prefixes and IGP > prefixes. In general, the implementation is designed to support the > "right" numbers of both. But assuming an accident or an attack, the > numbers may not be "right". e.g. one upon a time, someone has > redistributed the BGP table into the IGP. In this case, the total > number of IP prefixes in the FIB is exactly the same. But as the data > structure used in the FIB was different between BGP and IGP prefixes, > the FIB ran out of memory and the line card crashed (well actually > only the IP FIB, so IS-IS hello packet were still correctly sent and > forwarded. As a result, traffic was permanently black holed) > #Ahmed: I added a statement indicating that the behavior is internal to the router. On another front, although the scenario that you mentioned is related to reliability rather than security, it indicates that BGP-PIC actually improves the reliability of FIB because it greatly reduces the use of hardware and software memory > > --- > > § 9 > > OLD: that allows achieving prefix independent convergence > > NEW: that allows achieving BGP prefixes independent convergence > > (it's still depend on the number of IGP prefixes and/or BGP pathlist) > #Ahmed: Corrected > > *Nits:* > > Abstract > > "via more than one path." > > In this 1rst sentence, it's not clear what path really means. (e.g cf > the terminology section where you have more than one). I guess that > you mean "BGP path". (as there are also typically multiple IGP path to > reach each BGP Next Hop) > #Ahmed: modified to next-hop to indicate BGP next-hops > > "The objective is achieved through organizing the forwarding chains" > > "chain" does not self self explicit to me. what about :s/chains/data > structure" > #Ahmed: Agreed, changed to "data structures" > > "complete transparency" > > what do you mean? transparency to what / from who? > #Ahmed: Removed the word "transparency > > §1 > > OLD: to allow for more than one path for a given prefix > > NEW: to allow for BGP to advertise more than one path for a given prefix > #Ahmed: Modified as suggested > > OLD: Another more common and widely deployed scenario is L3VPN with > multi-homed VPN sites > > NEW: Another more common and widely deployed scenario is L3VPN with > multi-homed VPN sites with unique Route Distinguisher. > #Ahmed: Modified as suggested > > --- > > §1.2 > > "Pathlist: It is an array of paths" > > "OutLabel-Array: The OutLabel-Array is a list of one or more outgoing > labels " > > So a list is defined as an array and the array is defined as a list :-). > > What about using the same term, e.g. a list? > #Ahmed: Corrected. Both are now pathlist and OutLabel-List:) > > -- > > The OutLabel-Array is a list of one or more > > outgoing labels and/or label actions where each label or label > > action has 1-to-1 correspondence to a path in the pathlist. It > > is possible that the number of entries in the OutLabel-array is > > different from the number of paths in the pathlist and the ith > > Outlabel-Array entry is associated with the path whose path- > > index is "i". > > - I don't see how one can have a 1-to-1 correspondance if the number > of elements is not the same. > #Ahmed Corrected. > > - Last sentence could be splitted in 2. > > -- > > Since the term ingres PE is defined, you could also detine the term > egress PE. Possibly in the same sentence. > > OLD: "Ingress PE, "iPE": It is a BGP speaker that learns about a > > prefix through another IBGP peer and chooses that IBGP peer as > > the next-hop for the prefix > > NEW: "Ingress PE, "iPE": It is a BGP speaker that learns about a > > prefix through a IBGP peer and chooses an egress PE as the > next-hop for the prefix. > #Ahmed: Modified as suggested > > As a side note, the previous definition assume that there were no > Route Relfector (the iBGP peer is the BGP Next Hop) > #Ahmed: Correct. I did not want to unnecessarily complicate the discussion with information > > -- > > §2.3 > > Figure 1 represents a VPN network with 3 PE and a CE. In this context, > "VPN-P1" sounds a bit like a P router. What about :s/VPN-P1/VPN-IP1 ? > Same comment for IGP-P1. > #Ahmed: Agreed. All modified as suggested > > -- > > §2.3.2 > > OLD: ePE2 constructs the forwarding chain depicted in Figure 1 > > NEW: ePE2 constructs the forwarding chain depicted in Figure 3 > #Ahmed: Corrected > > OLD: VPL-L11 > > NEW: VPN-L11 > #Ahmed: Corrected > > §2.3.3 > > OLD: can reach ASBR1 > > NEW: can reach ASBR11 > #Ahmed: Corrected > > OLD: The label for advertised by ASBR11 to iPE > > NEW: The label advertised by ASBR11 to iPE > > OLD: The labels for advertised by ASBR12 to iPE > > NEW: The labels advertised by ASBR12 to iPE > #Ahmed: Corrected > > OLD: The labels for advertised to iPE by ASBR11 using BGP-LU > > NEW: The labels advertised by ASBR11 to iPE using BGP-LU > #Ahmed: Corrected > > --- > > §3 > > OLD: Let's applying the above forwarding steps to the example > described in Figure 1 Section 2.3.1. > > OLD: Let's applying the above forwarding steps to the example > described in Figure 2 Section 2.3.1. > #Ahmed: Corrected > > (somewhat guesssing. But in all cases, there is no figure 1 in section > 2.3.1) > > --- > > §4.1 > > IMO > > OLD: As soon as the IGP convergence is effective for the BGP nhop > entry, the new forwarding state is immediately available to all > dependent BGP prefixes. > > NEW: As soon as the IGP convergence is effective for a BGP next-hop > entry, the new forwarding state is immediately available to all > dependent BGP prefixes. > > more generally > > :s/nhop/next-hop > #Ahmed: Replaced nhop with next-hop in the entire document > > --- > > §4.3 > > :s/PE222/PE22 > #Ahmed: Corrected > > Best regards, > > Bruno > > ** > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. --------------020601090705070702050501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-00 Hi,

Thanks a lot for the detailed review.

I submitted version 01.  I CCed Jeff and Rob Shakir, who volunteered to be a shepherd (Thanks a lot):):)

I have restructured the document to address your comment. Besides I went over all the "Minor issues" as well as "nits" and corrected them, except 1-2 comments which I explained why I did not make the modifications.

Version 01 is modified and now it contains an "overview" section. Hence all sections have been shifted by one. So for example, the comment about section 2.3.3 now applies to section 3.2

Please see my reply inline  starting with "#Ahmed"

Thanks

Ahmed


On 4/20/2016 6:53 AM, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote:

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-00
Reviewer: Bruno Decraene
IETF LC End Date: “QA review” pre WG LC
Intended Status: Informational

Summary:

I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication.

Comments:

- Document is interesting. Document is relatively clear but sometime it feels like there is a little room for some reformulation/edition to improve fluidity. In particular, the learning curve is a bit steep at the beginning of the doc as most of the concepts are introduced in 3 pages (pages 4-6) in the form of a list of terminology and a pseudo code. I would find useful to have an overview section just after the introduction, with a high level view of the solution with a limited number of new terms.

- The text feels like authoritative, while probably many terms are implementation specific. A priori, I would not expect all implementation of BGP PIC to use the same terms, and possibly not the same data structure. May be the text could be generalized to cover multiple implementations; or modified to describe a generalized concept (i.e. data-structure designed to share as much data as possible between elements, at the cost of additional indirections); or the document could state that it describes a specific implementation with implementations specific terminology, data structure, and specifics. Or a combination of both (e.g. adding a section being both generalized and describing the concept, and then the existing sections after stating that they are specific to one implementation).

#Ahmed: I have restructured the document to make much more general. Please take a look. All feedback is most welcomed.

 

Minor Issues:

 

- I find figure 2 very useful to understand the data-structure. I would move it sooner in the doc, somewhere before §2.2. (with its subsequent text below) e.g. a new §2.2 "FIB data-structure"

It would need to be generalized i.e. example non-specific. I could think of:

 

IP Leaf:      Pathlist:       IP Leaf:                Pathlist:

--------      ---------       -------                 --------

BGP NLRI ---> BGP NH1   ----> IGP IP1 (BGP NH1)  ---> IGP NH1, I1  ---> Adjacency1

              BGP NHi   --...                         IGP NHi, Ii  --..

               |                                         |

               |                                         |

                |                                         |

                v                                         v

          OutLabel Array:                           OutLabel Array:

          --------------                            --------------

          L (NLRI, NH1)                             L (IP1, NH1)

          L (NLRI, NHi)                             L (IP1, NHi)

                                                

 

- Figure 1 could be enhanced with IGP-NH1, IGP-NH2, I1 and I2.

#Ahmed: Corrected

- Example 3 does not use the same naming convention than examples 1 and 2, this make it harder to follow for a priori no reason. e.g. VPN labels are named VPN-L11 in examples 1 and 2, but are named VPN-PE21(P1) in exmaple 3; transport labels are named LDP-L12 in exmaples 1 and 2, but LASBR11(PE22) and L11 in figure 3.

#Ahmed: I renamed the VPN labels to conform to the convention used in Examples 1 and 2. Also All IGP labels were renamed to IGP-Lij to make them applicable to both LDP and Segment routing.
For ASBR labels, we need to differentiate between ASBR labels and IGP labels. Hence the labels advertised by ASBRs are named differently.

- §2.3.3

"The local labels of the next hops".

 - All labels are locally assigned. So what do you mean by "local"

- "next-hop" sometimes refers to IGP/connected next-hop (a priori the case here) and sometimes to BGP next-hop. I find it hard to follow. I rather use a different name (e.g; connected next-hop vs BGP next-hop)

#Ahmed: Corrected.

- §3

"the hashing at the BGP level yields path 0 while the hashing at the IGP level yields path 1. In that case, the packet will be sent out of interface I1 with the label stack "LDP-L12,VPN-L21".

Does not seem to match my understanding. For "LDP-L12,VPN-L21" I would assume BGP used path index 1 and IGP used path index 0.

#Ahmed: Corrected.

 

IMHO:

OLD: "Hence ASBR22 swaps "LASBR22(PE22)" with the LDP/SR label of PE22, pushes the label of the next-hop towards PE22 in domain 2, and sends the packet along the shortest path towards PE22."

NEW: "Hence ASBR22 swaps "LASBR22(PE22)" with the LDP/SR label for PE22 advertised by the next-hop towards PE22 in domain 2, and sends the packet along the shortest path towards PE22."

(in all cases "swaps" then "pushes" would increase the label stack by 1, which is not the case.)

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

§4.1

"the useable paths in the loadinfo"

loadinfo is a proprietary FIB datastructure which has not been introduced/defined. You need to either remove that term (if possible) or define it somewhere.

#Ahmed: Corrected. "loadinfo" is replaced with "pathlist", which is the intended term

 

"Hence traffic restoration occurs within the time frame of IGP convergence,"

agree.

..."and, for local link failure, within the timeframe of local detection. Thus it is possible to achieve sub-50 msec convergence as described in [10] for local link failure"

IMO, this is restricted to specific cases. e.g. external (eBGP) link failure, ECMP case, possibly IP FRR.  So possibly

OLD: for local link failure, within the timeframe of local detection. Thus it is possible to achieve sub-50 msec convergence as described in [10] for local link failure

NEW: for local link failure, assuming a backup path has been precomputed, within the timeframe of local detection (e.g. 50ms). Example of solutions precomputing a backup path are IP FRR [LFA], [RLFA], [MRT], [TI-LFA] or eBGP path having a backup path [10].

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

§4

I would find useful to indicate, for each type of failure, the number of data-structure that need to be updated.

#Ahmed: In general it is not always possible to know the number of updated data structures due to a topology change because it depends on the topology itself. For example, in Section 5.1 (The section about BGP-PIC core), it is not possible to outline the datastructures that are modified for a remote link failure. However for local link failure, we added a statement in second paragraph of Section 5.1 indicating that only pathlists with paths using the local link need to be updated. We also indicated in the 3rd paragraph that datastructures are modified starting from the IGP leaves without walking back to BGP pathlists or data structures

---

§4.2.2

"To avoid loops, ePE2 MUST treat any core facing path as a backup

      path, otherwise ePE2 may redirect traffic arriving from the core

      back to ePE1 causing a loop."

                 

Looks a bit under-described to me. Could you please elaborate a bit? In particular:

- if 2 PE (PE1, PE2) are connected in U to 2 P (P1, P2)     (P1-PE1-PE2-P2), PE1 being nominal and PE2 only used in backup, in the nominal situation, if the core network sends the trafic to PE1 via PE2 (used as a P/transit), how does PE2 know that it must send this traffic to PE1? (rather than CE2)

- this behavior looks like an additional specific feature. How doew ePE1 knows that ePE2 have this feature?

---

#Ahmed: The statement is removed. As mentioned in Section 6.1 how to avoid loops in case of CE node failure is a different topic and needs to be addressed separately

§4.3

"  Hence if the platform supports the "unflattened" forwarding chain,

   then a single pathlist needs to be updated while if the platform

   supports a shallower forwarding chain, then two pathlists need to be

   updated."

IINM "single"  and "two" pathlist applies to the specific example. In this last sentence/summary, I'd prefer a more general statement. A priori, without digging too much in this most complex use case, it seems like :s/single/o(1)  :s/two/o(PE) . The former looks close (single vs o(1)) but IMHO there is a significant difference between 2 and o(PE) (i.e. 100s)

#Ahmed: Agreed. The last paragraph is generalized and modified to indicate possible outcomes of flattenning forwarding chains

---

§5.1

Good paragraph. It's quite clear that the convergence time does not depend on the number of BGP prefixes, which is good. For the benefit of the reader, it would be even more interesting if, for each type of failure, the text could indicate on what it depends. e.g.  o(1), o(connected interfaces), o(PE), o(PEnominal*PEbackup)....  

#Ahmed: Each subsection indicates the convergence time dependency. For example, in Section 6.1.1, the last paragraph says that the dependence is on the IGP convergence time only

--

§7

"No additional security risk is introduced by using the mechanisms proposed in this document"

In general, with such a sentence, it's difficult to evaluate whether the authors have very quickly evaluated the risk or if this evaluation has been performed in details. So in general, some more text detailing which aspects have been evaluated is interesting for the reader (yet painful for the authors).

As the document describe an internal box behavior, this is difficult to evaluate and discuss. But from a bad experience, I fear that there may be an impact. Indeed, with such structure, the FIB structure/memory is typically different between BGP prefixes and IGP prefixes. In general, the implementation is designed to support the "right" numbers of both. But assuming an accident or an attack, the numbers may not be "right". e.g. one upon a time, someone has redistributed the BGP table into the IGP. In this case, the total number of IP prefixes in the FIB is exactly the same. But as the data structure used in the FIB was different between BGP and IGP prefixes, the FIB ran out of memory and the line card crashed (well actually only the IP FIB, so IS-IS hello packet were still correctly sent and forwarded. As a result, traffic was permanently black holed)

#Ahmed: I added a statement indicating that the behavior is internal to the router.
On another front, although the scenario that you mentioned is related to reliability rather than security, it indicates that BGP-PIC actually improves the reliability of FIB because it greatly reduces the use of hardware and software memory

---

§ 9

OLD: that allows achieving prefix independent convergence

NEW: that allows achieving BGP prefixes independent convergence

 

(it's still depend on the number of IGP prefixes and/or BGP pathlist)

 

#Ahmed: Corrected

Nits:

 

Abstract

"via more than one path."

In this 1rst sentence, it's not clear what path really means. (e.g cf the terminology section where you have more than one). I guess that you mean "BGP path". (as there are also typically multiple IGP path to reach each BGP Next Hop)

#Ahmed: modified to next-hop to indicate BGP next-hops

 

"The objective is achieved through organizing the forwarding chains"

"chain" does not self self explicit to me. what about :s/chains/data structure"

#Ahmed: Agreed, changed to "data structures"

 

"complete transparency"

what do you mean? transparency to what / from who?

#Ahmed: Removed the word "transparency

§1

OLD: to allow for more than one path for a given prefix

NEW: to allow for BGP to advertise more than one path for a given prefix

#Ahmed: Modified as suggested

 

OLD: Another more common and widely deployed scenario is L3VPN with multi-homed VPN sites

NEW: Another more common and widely deployed scenario is L3VPN with multi-homed VPN sites with unique Route Distinguisher.

#Ahmed: Modified as suggested

 

---

§1.2

"Pathlist: It is an array of paths"

"OutLabel-Array: The OutLabel-Array is a list of one or more outgoing labels "

 

So a list is defined as an array and the array is defined as a list :-).

What about using the same term, e.g. a list?

#Ahmed: Corrected. Both are now pathlist and OutLabel-List:)

--

The OutLabel-Array is a list of one or more

      outgoing labels and/or label actions where each label or label

      action has 1-to-1 correspondence to a path in the pathlist. It

      is possible that the number of entries in the OutLabel-array is

      different from the number of paths in the pathlist and the ith

      Outlabel-Array entry is associated with the path whose path-

      index is "i".

                 

- I don't see how one can have a 1-to-1 correspondance if the number of elements is not the same.

#Ahmed Corrected.

- Last sentence could be splitted in 2.

--             

Since the term ingres PE is defined, you could also detine the term egress PE. Possibly in the same sentence.

OLD: "Ingress PE, "iPE": It is a BGP speaker that learns about a

      prefix through another IBGP peer and chooses that IBGP peer as

      the next-hop for the prefix

                 

NEW:      "Ingress PE, "iPE": It is a BGP speaker that learns about a

      prefix through a IBGP peer and chooses an egress PE as the next-hop for the prefix.

#Ahmed: Modified as suggested

                 

As a side note, the previous definition assume that there were no Route Relfector (the iBGP peer is the BGP Next Hop)        

#Ahmed: Correct. I did not want to unnecessarily complicate the discussion with information

        

--

§2.3

Figure 1 represents a VPN network with 3 PE and a CE. In this context, "VPN-P1" sounds a bit like a P router. What about :s/VPN-P1/VPN-IP1  ? Same comment for IGP-P1.

#Ahmed: Agreed. All modified as suggested

--

§2.3.2

OLD: ePE2 constructs the forwarding chain depicted in Figure 1

NEW: ePE2 constructs the forwarding chain depicted in Figure 3

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

OLD: VPL-L11

NEW: VPN-L11

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

§2.3.3

OLD: can reach ASBR1

NEW: can reach ASBR11

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

OLD: The label for advertised by ASBR11 to iPE

NEW: The label advertised by ASBR11 to iPE

 

OLD: The labels for advertised by ASBR12 to iPE

NEW: The labels advertised by ASBR12 to iPE

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

OLD: The labels for advertised to iPE by ASBR11 using BGP-LU

NEW: The labels advertised  by ASBR11 to iPE using BGP-LU

#Ahmed: Corrected

---

§3

 

OLD: Let's applying the above forwarding steps to the example described in Figure 1 Section 2.3.1.

OLD: Let's applying the above forwarding steps to the example described in Figure 2 Section 2.3.1.

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

(somewhat guesssing. But in all cases, there is no figure 1 in section 2.3.1)

 

---

§4.1

IMO

OLD: As soon as the IGP convergence is effective for the BGP nhop entry, the new forwarding state is immediately available to all dependent BGP prefixes.

NEW: As soon as the IGP convergence is effective for a BGP next-hop entry, the new forwarding state is immediately available to all dependent BGP prefixes.

 

more generally

:s/nhop/next-hop

#Ahmed: Replaced nhop with next-hop in the entire document

---

§4.3

:s/PE222/PE22

#Ahmed: Corrected

 

Best regards,

Bruno

 

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--------------020601090705070702050501-- From nobody Tue Jun 21 09:38:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7C512B05D; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:38:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.946 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ryu-5wUdkb6O; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-4.cisco.com (aer-iport-4.cisco.com [173.38.203.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F8F912D1B2; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:38:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=10393; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1466527125; x=1467736725; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to; bh=zn3BffysvTCqMlWhM96xzKuXUvpucHuuyOjb7ibSzqg=; b=bV0Yj85JajwiTXEKAs1J1BcW2QQIUSKgPzjJnO8btZ66w8uZjiBkSd0R oh+1GTHftxZYl/udOrPlN1WiShvLi7Qg48fYUXtBfEWXfPAdBep0ZnZnc 7F3S8sdpvp6EAo2TJzmxijKfWOfpnG5OjyYoODZ4U5BWe+Ir0a9oGKt6p 8=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,505,1459814400"; d="scan'208,217";a="638134533" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-2.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Jun 2016 16:38:43 +0000 Received: from [10.24.17.156] ([10.24.17.156]) by aer-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u5LGcfsh026936; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:38:41 GMT Message-ID: <57696D90.5010500@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:38:40 -0700 From: "Ahmed Bashandy (bashandy)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Tantsura , Rob Shakir , RTGWG Subject: Re: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic References: <857BF096-E1AD-4C08-8120-DA72D333E27C@gmail.com> <35F786B0-D760-4FE0-BB0A-EBCC395F0C54@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <35F786B0-D760-4FE0-BB0A-EBCC395F0C54@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020302030103020405000903" Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:38:47 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020302030103020405000903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I have just submitted version 01 few moments ago to address the comments Bruno. I replied to the email thread "RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-00" with my comments I have CCed Rob and you on that thread Ahmed On 6/10/2016 7:59 AM, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > > Hi Rob, > > Thank you for volunteering! > > Looking forward to your review. > > Ahmed/authors – the draft has expired – please update the draft and > address the comments received. > > Thanks, > > Jeff & Chris > > *From: *Rob Shakir > *Date: *Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:33 AM > *To: *RTGWG , Jeff Tantsura > *Subject: *Re: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic > > Hi Jeff, > > I haven’t reviewed this one for a while, but would be happy to act as > its shepherd - assuming you did not have any other volunteers. I’ll > take an initial review this week with a view to assisting with a > shepherd’s review for IESG. > > Thanks, > > r. > > On 1 June 2016 at 12:23:27, Jeff Tantsura (jefftant.ietf@gmail.com > ) wrote: > > Dear RTGWG, > > We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready for > WGLC and looking for a shepherd. > > Thank you in advance, > > Jeff and Chris > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > --------------020302030103020405000903 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi,

I have just submitted version 01 few moments ago to address the comments Bruno. I replied to the email thread "RtgDir review: draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic-00" with my comments

I have CCed Rob and you on that thread

Ahmed

On 6/10/2016 7:59 AM, Jeff Tantsura wrote:

Hi Rob,

 

Thank you for volunteering!

Looking forward to your review.

 

Ahmed/authors – the draft has expired – please update the draft and address the comments received.

 

Thanks,

Jeff & Chris

 

From: Rob Shakir <rjs@rob.sh>
Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 8:33 AM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: looking for a shepherd for draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic

 

Hi Jeff,

 

I haven’t reviewed this one for a while, but would be happy to act as its shepherd - assuming you did not have any other volunteers. I’ll take an initial review this week with a view to assisting with a shepherd’s review for IESG.

 

Thanks,

r.

On 1 June 2016 at 12:23:27, Jeff Tantsura (jefftant.ietf@gmail.com) wrote:

Dear RTGWG,

 

We are in process of getting draft-ietf-rtgwg-bgp-pic ready for WGLC and looking for a shepherd.

 

Thank you in advance,

Jeff and Chris

 

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[94.43.130.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t198sm271514wmt.16.2016.06.23.04.21.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jun 2016 04:21:50 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.16.0.160506 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:21:47 +0400 Subject: Re: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model From: Jeff Tantsura To: RTGWG Message-ID: <7FC41664-36CC-4712-8FD0-B912391563ED@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model References: <8A056C97-7D5A-4A52-8D55-19BEC054E2BD@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3549540109_1091241066" Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg-chairs X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:21:55 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3549540109_1091241066 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear RTGWG, =20 We close the adoption call, draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgya= ngdt-rtgwg-ni-model have been adopted as the wg items. Authors =E2=80=93 please republish the adopted drafts. =20 draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-mode is still pending some IPR statements.=20 =20 Thanks, Jeff & Chris =20 From: rtgwg on behalf of Jeff Tantsura Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM To: Routing WG Subject: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model= ; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model =20 Dear RTGWG, =20 The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and dr= aft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group documents. =20 There was good support during the last IETF meeting. Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. =20 If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to thi= s email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The res= ponse needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not adva= nce to the next stage until a response has been received from each author an= d each individual that has contributed to the document. =20 Thanks, =20 Jeff & Chris =20 --B_3549540109_1091241066 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Dear RTGWG,

 

We close the adoption call, draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and = draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model have been adopted as the wg items.=

Authors –= please republish the adopted drafts.

 

draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-mode is stil= l pending some IPR statements.

 

Thanks,

Jeff & Chris

 

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf = of Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@= gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM
To:= Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>Subject: working group adoption call for draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-devi= ce-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model=

 

Dear RTGWG,

 

The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt:

draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model;  draft-rtgyang= dt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model as working group docum= ents.

 

There was good support during the last IETF meeting.=

Please indicate support or no-support by J= une 22nd, 2016.

 

If you are listed as a document author or contrib= utor please respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of= any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. = The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been re= ceived from each author and each individual that has contributed to the docu= ment.

 

Thanks,<= /p>

 

Jeff & Chris

 

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Dear RTGWG

It's that time again!

The preliminary agenda for IETF 96 has been published; y= ou can find it at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda.html

RTGWG will = be meeting:

-14:00 – 16:00 on Tuesday July 19 in Potsdam III

-10:00 - 12:30 on W= ednesday July 20 in Potsdam III

If you'd like a slot to present a draft, please send= a request to Chris and I by July 8. Please note the dates below, in particu= lar, the deadline for draft submission is UTC 23:59, July 8.

<= /p>

We kindly request to se= nd your slides for presentations by Friday, July 15.

Any WG draft not being discusse= d/presented needs to a status update sent to the list by Sunday July 10.

As always &= #8211; we would appreciate your help in taking notes and jabber, please do v= olunteer!

Looking forward to seeing you in Berlin!

Cheers,

Jeff and Chris

 <= /p>

 

 

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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3549558054_356676886 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear RTGWG, =20 We close the adoption call, draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp has been adopted as t= he wg items. =20 Authors =E2=80=93 please republish the adopted draft with the following changes: =20 Xufeng and Athanasios =E2=80=93 please update your email addresses and affiliatio= n. Yuyang Xie =E2=80=93 won=E2=80=99t be listed a co-author anymore =20 Thanks, Jeff & Chris From: Jeff Tantsura Date: Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:12 PM To: RTGWG Cc: rtgwg-chairs , Subject: working group adoption call for draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp=20 =20 Dear RTGWG, The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp as working group document. There was good support during the last IETF meeting. Please indicate support or no-support by June 24th, 2016. If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to th= is email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The re= sponse needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not adv= ance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author a= nd each individual that has contributed to the document. Thanks, Jeff & Chris =20 --B_3549558054_356676886 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Dear RTGWG,

We close the adoption call, draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp has been adopte= d as the wg items.

 

Authors – please republish the adopted draft with the = following changes:

 

Xufeng and Athanasios – please update your email addre= sses and affiliation.

Yuyang Xie – won’t be listed a co-author anymor= e

Thanks= ,

Jef= f & Chris

From: Jeff Tantsura <je= fftant.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, June 10, 2016 at 7:12 PMTo: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Cc: rtgwg-chairs <rtg= wg-chairs@ietf.org>, <draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp@ietf.org>
Sub= ject: working group adoption call for draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp

 

<= span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Dear RTGWG,

The authors have requested the RTGWG to= adopt:

draft-liu-rtgwg-yang-vrrp as working group document.

There was good support du= ring the last IETF meeting.

Please indicate support or no-support by June 24th, 2= 016.

= If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to thi= s email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The res= ponse needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not adva= nce to the next stage until a response has been received from each author an= d each individual that has contributed to the document.

Thanks,=

Jeff & Chris

 

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Changes are: - name (rtgyangdt -> ietf) - fixup of yang model (descriptions) to match change - cleanup idnits (references) Lou > > > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-mode is still pending some IPR statements. > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff & Chris > > > > *From: *rtgwg > > on behalf of Jeff Tantsura > > *Date: *Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM > *To: *Routing WG > > *Subject: *working group adoption call for > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model > and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model > > > > Dear RTGWG, > > > > The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: > > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model > as working group documents. > > > > There was good support during the last IETF meeting. > > Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. > > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please > respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of > any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG > mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage > until a response has been received from each author and each > individual that has contributed to the document. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeff & Chris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From nobody Fri Jun 24 09:01:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E442D12DC64; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:00:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Subject: rtgwg - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 96 X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160624160039.10933.36063.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 09:00:39 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 16:00:40 -0000 Dear Jeff Tantsura, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. 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Please take a look. Thanks, Jeff On 6/23/16, 8:09 PM, "Lou Berger" wrote: On 6/23/2016 7:21 AM, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > > Dear RTGWG, > > =20 > > We close the adoption call, draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model have been adopted as the wg items. > > Authors =E2=80=93 please republish the adopted drafts. > Thank you -- just resubmited. Changes are: - name (rtgyangdt -> ietf) - fixup of yang model (descriptions) to match change - cleanup idnits (references) Lou > =20 > > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-mode is still pending some IPR statements. > > =20 > > Thanks, > > Jeff & Chris > > =20 > > *From: *rtgwg > > on behalf of Jeff Tantsura > > *Date: *Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 5:12 PM > *To: *Routing WG > > *Subject: *working group adoption call for > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model; draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model > and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model > > =20 > > Dear RTGWG, > > =20 > > The authors have requested the RTGWG to adopt: > > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model;=20 > draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-lne-model and draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-ni-model > as working group documents. > > =20 > > There was good support during the last IETF meeting. > > Please indicate support or no-support by June 22nd, 2016. > > =20 > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please > respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of > any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG > mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage > until a response has been received from each author and each > individual that has contributed to the document. > > =20 > > Thanks, > > =20 > > Jeff & Chris > > =20 > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From nobody Sat Jun 25 14:25:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873D912D18D; Sat, 25 Jun 2016 14:24:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-lne-model-00.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160625212459.17217.28502.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 14:24:59 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:25:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Logical Network Element Model Authors : Lou Berger Christan Hopps Acee Lindem Dean Bogdanovic Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-lne-model-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2016-06-23 Abstract: This document defines a logical network element module. This module along with the network instance module can be used to manage the logical and virtual resource representations that may be present on a network device. Examples of common industry terms for logical resource representations are Logical Systems or Logical Routers. Examples of of common industry terms for virtual resource representations are Virtual Routing and Forwarding (VRF) instances and Virtual Switch Instances (VSIs). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-lne-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-lne-model-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Jun 25 14:25:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9AE12D16B; Sat, 25 Jun 2016 14:25:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model-00.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160625212520.17246.65569.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 14:25:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:25:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Network Instance Model Authors : Lou Berger Christan Hopps Acee Lindem Dean Bogdanovic Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model-00.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2016-06-23 Abstract: This document defines a network instance module. This module along with the logical network element module can be used to manage the logical and virtual resource representations that may be present on a network device. Examples of common industry terms for logical resource representations are Logical Systems or Logical Routers. Examples of common industry terms for virtual resource representations are Virtual Routing and Forwarding (VRF) instances and Virtual Switch Instances (VSIs). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Jun 26 01:12:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F0F12B02C; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 01:12:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ma3InIKav-En; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 01:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-0016f401.pphosted.com (mx0b-0016f401.pphosted.com [67.231.156.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC46112B01A; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 01:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0045851.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-0016f401.pphosted.com (8.16.0.17/8.16.0.17) with SMTP id u5Q879oB028387; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 01:12:20 -0700 Received: from il-exch02.marvell.com ([199.203.130.102]) by mx0b-0016f401.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 23ssfej658-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 26 Jun 2016 01:12:20 -0700 Received: from IL-EXCH01.marvell.com (10.4.102.220) by IL-EXCH02.marvell.com (10.4.102.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:12:17 +0300 Received: from IL-EXCH01.marvell.com ([fe80::41:1c9f:8611:3a4a]) by IL-EXCH01.marvell.com ([fe80::41:1c9f:8611:3a4a%20]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 11:12:17 +0300 From: Tal Mizrahi To: "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Topic: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Index: AdHPgQ8L7yui3SQ6S8i+8JhXelTIiw== Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:12:16 +0000 Message-ID: <7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.4.102.210] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8ILEXCH01marvellcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-06-26_05:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1604210000 definitions=main-1606260090 Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" , "nvo3@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:12:24 -0000 --_000_7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8ILEXCH01marvellcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear OOAM Authors, I have read the two OOAM drafts, and I have some comments. Please see below= . Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-00 A general question about the draft: does the draft define requirements for = operators, requirements for vendors, or requirements for IETF working group= s? These are three significantly different scopes, and reading the document= I was not able to assess who the requirements are intended for. Other comments: 1. Section 3: The term 'UCMP' is defined in Section 3, but not used i= n the document. 2. The following terms are used in the draft without having been defi= ned: - 'OAM session' - 'node' - 'centralized controller' - 'FM' 3. Section 4.1.1: 'Reverse Defect Indication (RDI)' =3D=3D> RDI usual= ly stands for Remote Defect Indication. 4. Section 4.1.2: "Overlay OAM MAY support verification of the mappin= g between its data plane state and client layer services" - please clarify = further. 5. Section 4.2: the terms 'active' and 'passive' have not been define= d in the current draft (you may want to cite RFC 7799). Specifically, this clarification is necessary since the term 'passive' acco= rding to RFC 7799 is slightly different than the term 'passive' in draft-ie= tf-ippm-alt-mark-00. 6. Section 6 - certainly the OAM requirements have security implicati= ons. For example, OAM protocols may be subject to DoS attacks and to networ= k recon. Some of these considerations are discussed in RFC 7276. Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-01 1. I believe having an OAM gap analysis draft is a good idea. 2. The current draft is still very preliminary, and some of the secti= ons are still empty. 3. Section 1: The introduction of the document goes way beyond the sc= ope of the title (Gap Analysis). The intro actually defines the baseline of= an Overlay OAM solution. Either this part should be removed from the docum= ent, or the scope of the document should be redefined. 4. Section 3.3: this section is unclear, and should probably be rephr= ased. The section discusses both in-band telemetry and passive monitoring, and it= is not clear whether the two are related or not. 5. Section 5: it looks like this text was copied from another draft, = and is not applicable to this document. Cheers, Tal. --_000_7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8ILEXCH01marvellcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear OOAM Authors,

 

I have read the two OOAM drafts, and I have some com= ments. Please see below.

 

 

Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement:<= o:p>

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-o= oam-requirement-00

 

A general question about the draft: does the draft d= efine requirements for operators, requirements for vendors, or requirements= for IETF working groups? These are three significantly different scopes, a= nd reading the document I was not able to assess who the requirements are intended for.

 

Other comments:

1.     &= nbsp; Section 3: The term ‘= ;UCMP’ is defined in Section 3, but not used in the document.

2.     &= nbsp; The following terms are us= ed in the draft without having been defined:

-     &= nbsp;    ‘OAM session’<= o:p>

-     &= nbsp;    ‘node’

-     &= nbsp;    ‘centralized control= ler’

-     &= nbsp;    ‘FM’

3.     &= nbsp; Section 4.1.1: ‘Reve= rse Defect Indication (RDI)’ =3D=3D> RDI usually stands for Remote= Defect Indication.

4.     &= nbsp; Section 4.1.2: “Over= lay OAM MAY support verification of the mapping between its data plane stat= e and client layer services” – please clarify further.

5.     &= nbsp; Section 4.2: the terms = 216;active’ and ‘passive’ have not been defined in the cu= rrent draft (you may want to cite RFC 7799).
Specifically, this clarification is necessary since the term ‘passive= ’ according to RFC 7799 is slightly different than the term ‘pa= ssive’ in draft-ietf-ippm-alt-mark-00.

6.     &= nbsp; Section 6 – certainl= y the OAM requirements have security implications. For example, OAM protoco= ls may be subject to DoS attacks and to network recon. Some of these consid= erations are discussed in RFC 7276.

 

 

Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis:<= o:p>

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-o= am-gap-analysis-01

 

1.     &= nbsp; I believe having an OAM ga= p analysis draft is a good idea.

2.     &= nbsp; The current draft is still= very preliminary, and some of the sections are still empty.

3.     &= nbsp; Section 1: The introductio= n of the document goes way beyond the scope of the title (Gap Analysis). Th= e intro actually defines the baseline of an Overlay OAM solution. Either th= is part should be removed from the document, or the scope of the document should be redefined.

4.     &= nbsp; Section 3.3: this section = is unclear, and should probably be rephrased.
The section discusses both in-band telemetry and passive monitoring, and it= is not clear whether the two are related or not.

5.     &= nbsp; Section 5: it looks like t= his text was copied from another draft, and is not applicable to this docum= ent.

 

 

Cheers,

Tal.

--_000_7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8ILEXCH01marvellcom_-- From nobody Sun Jun 26 07:16:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A9F12B01F; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VjknZ4P1SVPs; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-8.cisco.com (alln-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.142.95]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7D7B12B015; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:16:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=283; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1466950583; x=1468160183; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=qfVtnlv3P6dhgPC+D2R5N1b/ownI4AJH0hBwhDC+8MM=; b=R0ZQWr7JbOGPzjUNb28pPoGBdI4+p65f77cPyyWGci5dz6V0ogAXPUcI V2W1v589R46vxEEP1TdSUVbifDANegQyRmV2UnHAeYnLos21M7DKFcKLG npBANqWhKLvdceieHUsrhawSQboGv9eBoPT1SLxs7bHoi3Ctw4wLrf1Ms I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ANAgBI4m9X/4ENJK1bgz6BUwa6JYF7h?= =?us-ascii?q?hgCgSI4FAEBAQEBAQFlJ4RNAQEEOj8QAgEINhAyJQEBBAENBYgwxxcBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEcinWEIwEBhXYBBJkBAY42gVMBFYRUgy6FOY9+AR42g?= =?us-ascii?q?3BuiCM2fwEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,531,1459814400"; d="scan'208";a="290081494" Received: from alln-core-9.cisco.com ([173.36.13.129]) by alln-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 26 Jun 2016 14:16:23 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-015.cisco.com (xch-rcd-015.cisco.com [173.37.102.25]) by alln-core-9.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u5QEGMKq003490 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:16:22 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-015.cisco.com (173.37.102.25) by XCH-RCD-015.cisco.com (173.37.102.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:16:22 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-015.cisco.com ([173.37.102.25]) by XCH-RCD-015.cisco.com ([173.37.102.25]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 09:16:22 -0500 From: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" To: Tal Mizrahi , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Topic: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Index: AdHPgQ8L7yui3SQ6S8i+8JhXelTIiwAPKBqA Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:16:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> In-Reply-To: <7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.118.20.14] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1F8CFF8700C64144B809AF8CF4704B09@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" , "nvo3@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:16:25 -0000 Hi Tal, The comments seems to be missing in the mail. Can you please share the same?. Thanks, Nagendra On 6/26/16, 4:12 AM, "Tal Mizrahi" wrote: >Dear OOAM Authors, > >I have read the two OOAM drafts, and I have some comments. Please see >below From nobody Sun Jun 26 07:20:34 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E3112B024; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:20:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x4NNS4-2xPq5; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-0016f401.pphosted.com (mx0a-0016f401.pphosted.com [67.231.148.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E71EE12B00B; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0045849.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-0016f401.pphosted.com (8.16.0.17/8.16.0.17) with SMTP id u5QEGdjb003969; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:20:11 -0700 Received: from il-exch01.marvell.com ([199.203.130.101]) by mx0a-0016f401.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 23sqak3a3c-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 26 Jun 2016 07:20:11 -0700 Received: from IL-EXCH01.marvell.com (10.4.102.220) by IL-EXCH01.marvell.com (10.4.102.220) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:20:08 +0300 Received: from IL-EXCH01.marvell.com ([fe80::41:1c9f:8611:3a4a]) by IL-EXCH01.marvell.com ([fe80::41:1c9f:8611:3a4a%20]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.000; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:20:08 +0300 From: Tal Mizrahi To: "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Topic: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Index: AdHPgQ8L7yui3SQ6S8i+8JhXelTIiwAPKBqAAAIJKnA= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:20:07 +0000 Message-ID: <48da4f66881d4accb182513b39744fc1@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> References: <7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.4.102.210] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2016-06-26_07:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1604210000 definitions=main-1606260159 Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" , "nvo3@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 14:20:15 -0000 Dear Nagendra, >The comments seems to be missing in the mail. Can you please share the >same?. Strange... The comments seem to be visible in the mail archive (https://mai= larchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/EPxJQcw9lOAIHV2HkRwNE6GVxAU). Nevertheless, here goes again: Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-00 A general question about the draft: does the draft define requirements for = operators, requirements for vendors, or requirements for IETF working group= s? These are three significantly different scopes, and reading the document= I was not able to assess who the requirements are intended for. Other comments: 1. Section 3: The term 'UCMP' is defined in Section 3, but not used in the = document. 2. The following terms are used in the draft without having been defined: - 'OAM session' - 'node' - 'centralized controller' - 'FM' 3. Section 4.1.1: 'Reverse Defect Indication (RDI)' =3D=3D> RDI usually sta= nds for Remote Defect Indication. 4. Section 4.1.2: "Overlay OAM MAY support verification of the mapping betw= een its data plane state and client layer services" - please clarify furthe= r. 5. Section 4.2: the terms 'active' and 'passive' have not been defined in t= he current draft (you may want to cite RFC 7799). Specifically, this clarification is necessary since the term 'passive' acco= rding to RFC 7799 is slightly different than the term 'passive' in draft-ie= tf-ippm-alt-mark-00. 6. Section 6 - certainly the OAM requirements have security implications. F= or example, OAM protocols may be subject to DoS attacks and to network reco= n. Some of these considerations are discussed in RFC 7276. Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-01 1. I believe having an OAM gap analysis draft is a good idea. 2. The current draft is still very preliminary, and some of the sections ar= e still empty.=20 3. Section 1: The introduction of the document goes way beyond the scope of= the title (Gap Analysis). The intro actually defines the baseline of an Ov= erlay OAM solution. Either this part should be removed from the document, o= r the scope of the document should be redefined. 4. Section 3.3: this section is unclear, and should probably be rephrased. The section discusses both in-band telemetry and passive monitoring, and it= is not clear whether the two are related or not. 5. Section 5: it looks like this text was copied from another draft, and is= not applicable to this document. Cheers, Tal. >-----Original Message----- >From: Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) [mailto:naikumar@cisco.com] >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 5:16 PM >To: Tal Mizrahi; draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@tools.ietf.org; draft= - >ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org >Cc: bier@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org >Subject: Re: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts > >Hi Tal, > >The comments seems to be missing in the mail. Can you please share the >same?. > >Thanks, >Nagendra > >On 6/26/16, 4:12 AM, "Tal Mizrahi" wrote: > >>Dear OOAM Authors, >> >>I have read the two OOAM drafts, and I have some comments. Please see >>below From nobody Sun Jun 26 17:36:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E3412D1A2; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s0WB20OzmYfL; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg20.ericsson.net (usplmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478B012D0F1; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-f79886d000002334-8a-57706ae38990 Received: from EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.93]) by usplmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 0A.85.09012.3EA60775; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 01:53:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Sun, 26 Jun 2016 20:36:27 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Tal Mizrahi , "Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar)" , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: RE: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Topic: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Thread-Index: AdHPgQ8L7yui3SQ6S8i+8JhXelTIiwAPKBqAAAIJKnAAD6mBkA== Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 00:36:27 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221AB8DC9@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <7e12c3e474924b04b133da754e2f9cf8@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> <48da4f66881d4accb182513b39744fc1@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> In-Reply-To: <48da4f66881d4accb182513b39744fc1@IL-EXCH01.marvell.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrEIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPrO7jrIJwg/a5ShZLZ+xhsvh28w6L xZOr3WwWrydOZbN4Ol/S4sKb38wWTx5sZbd49W8LiwOHx5TfG1k9liz5yeQxeeFFZo8vlz+z BbBEcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGWs7XrIWnBcveLxvroGxocKXYycHBICJhKnp25lgbDFJC7cW8/W xcjFISRwlFFi542bLBDOckaJOycWsYJUsQkYSbzY2MMOkhARuM8k8fbNJCaQBLNAqsSqg+/B ioQF9CT+f/4MNlZEQF/iyISV7BC2k8T3G3cYuxg5OFgEVCUWzbIDMXkFfCUOfvCH2LWMUeLr jX1g5ZwCrhJ7/50DsxmBrvt+ag3UKnGJW0/mM0FcLSCxZM95ZghbVOLl43+sELaSxJzX15gh 6nUkFuz+xAZha0ssW/gaLM4rIChxcuYTlgmMYrOQjJ2FpGUWkpZZSFoWMLKsYuQoLS7IyU03 MtjECIy5YxJsujsY70/3PMQowMGoxMOrIFEQLsSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmEd1oxUIg3JbGyKrUo P76oNCe1+BCjNAeLkjiv2CPFcCGB9MSS1OzU1ILUIpgsEwenVAOjirfo1LJdt6MfNuUInnNx 830X8ufGwp+64vpeV3vNbh29kcz4Xepe4P12J6M1X1k+R860Tv748Pj2twsV/DKPvnQ/wDEl LMHiru9J5zmedwW1rHkmfrDLFRbs9WhLaLQq/H/pduaTn+em+YQdD9ys/2nqWyff3n1ljPe3 3W98NzUldYVCqrebEktxRqKhFnNRcSIAJcK4XrUCAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" , "nvo3@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 00:36:33 -0000 Hi Tal, many thanks for your thorough review of the documents by OOAM DT, greatly a= ppreciated. Please find my answers and notes in-line and tagged GIM>>. We'r= e preparing updates to both drafts and will reflect your comments in the co= ming updates. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Tal Mizrahi [mailto:talmi@marvell.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:20 AM To: Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar); draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@t= ools.ietf.org; draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org; rtgwg@ie= tf.org Cc: bier@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org Subject: RE: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts Dear Nagendra, >The comments seems to be missing in the mail. Can you please share the=20 >same?. Strange... The comments seem to be visible in the mail archive (https://mai= larchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtgwg/EPxJQcw9lOAIHV2HkRwNE6GVxAU). Nevertheless, here goes again: Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement-00 A general question about the draft: does the draft define requirements for = operators, requirements for vendors, or requirements for IETF working group= s? These are three significantly different scopes, and reading the document= I was not able to assess who the requirements are intended for. Other comments: 1. Section 3: The term 'UCMP' is defined in Section 3, but not used in the = document. GIM>> Good catch, will clear 2. The following terms are used in the draft without having been defined: - 'OAM session' - 'node' - 'centralized controller' - 'FM' GIM>> While Fault Management is straightforward 3. Section 4.1.1: 'Reverse Defect Indication (RDI)' =3D=3D> RDI usually sta= nds for Remote Defect Indication. GIM>> Indeed, thank you. Will update. 4. Section 4.1.2: "Overlay OAM MAY support verification of the mapping betw= een its data plane state and client layer services" - please clarify furthe= r. GIM>> We intend to provide solutions in the new document. But one use case = discussed in draft-nordmark-nvo3-transcending-traceroute. 5. Section 4.2: the terms 'active' and 'passive' have not been defined in t= he current draft (you may want to cite RFC 7799). Specifically, this clarification is necessary since the term 'passive' acco= rding to RFC 7799 is slightly different than the term 'passive' in draft-ie= tf-ippm-alt-mark-00. GIM>> Yes, and we are talking about measurement methods that can be used "a= lmost as passive" and explain the requirements toward the overlay to achiev= e such behavior. 6. Section 6 - certainly the OAM requirements have security implications. F= or example, OAM protocols may be subject to DoS attacks and to network reco= n. Some of these considerations are discussed in RFC 7276. Comments about draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis-01 1. I believe having an OAM gap analysis draft is a good idea. GIM>> Thank you. 2. The current draft is still very preliminary, and some of the sections ar= e still empty.=20 GIM>> we'll post update before the cut-off date to discuss it in Berlin. 3. Section 1: The introduction of the document goes way beyond the scope of= the title (Gap Analysis). The intro actually defines the baseline of an Ov= erlay OAM solution. Either this part should be removed from the document, o= r the scope of the document should be redefined. GIM>> I think it may justified as we list existing IETF OAM protocols. Thou= gh we may move them out of the Introduction and into the new section. 4. Section 3.3: this section is unclear, and should probably be rephrased. The section discusses both in-band telemetry and passive monitoring, and it= is not clear whether the two are related or not. GIM>> We've discussed the telemetry and it could be collected using active = OAM, i.e. using injected OAM packets, or using passive-like method. Interes= tingly to discussion in RFC 7799, telemetry collection may use methods that= could be characterized as hybrid methods as well. 5. Section 5: it looks like this text was copied from another draft, and is= not applicable to this document. GIM>> Indeed, we've removed it in the working version. Contributions are we= lcome and appreciated. Cheers, Tal. >-----Original Message----- >From: Nagendra Kumar Nainar (naikumar) [mailto:naikumar@cisco.com] >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 5:16 PM >To: Tal Mizrahi; draft-ooamdt-rtgwg-oam-gap-analysis@tools.ietf.org;=20 >draft- ooamdt-rtgwg-ooam-requirement@tools.ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org >Cc: bier@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org >Subject: Re: Comments about Overlay OAM Drafts > >Hi Tal, > >The comments seems to be missing in the mail. Can you please share the=20 >same?. > >Thanks, >Nagendra > >On 6/26/16, 4:12 AM, "Tal Mizrahi" wrote: > >>Dear OOAM Authors, >> >>I have read the two OOAM drafts, and I have some comments. Please see=20 >>below From nobody Mon Jun 27 15:41:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D900912D9ED; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:41:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160627224120.5289.27695.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:41:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:41:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Key Chain YANG Data Model Authors : Acee Lindem Yingzhen Qu Derek Yeung Ing-Wher Chen Jeffrey Zhang Yi Yang Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-06-27 Abstract: This document describes the key chain YANG data model. A key chain is a list of elements each containing a key, send lifetime, accept lifetime, and algorithm. By properly overlapping the send and accept lifetimes of multiple key chain elements, keys and algorithms may be gracefully updated. By representing them in a YANG data model, key distribution can be automated. Key chains are commonly used for routing protocol authentication and other applications. In some applications, the protocols do not use the key chain element key directly, but rather a key derivation function is used to derive a short-lived key from the key chain element key. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 27 23:52:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6168712DAE4 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:51:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.84 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.84 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.107, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n7bd67wUBXM8 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-3.cisco.com (aer-iport-3.cisco.com [173.38.203.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABBDF12DAE3 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:51:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=554; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1467096717; x=1468306317; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; bh=9QatwhiTNQIxweaByTqckHxe8RK8Glt+iNikz1s8BaU=; b=ECWHYDCsCLvhXdJggSz1RSwB5Mp/oCgLrL6GuvB7a6GHSToXWUga94mG A/lE9a2FkR4SzjT1zKcMlpSlw5XloUjORk5bGmNe9PLOVLdkmnv+INJlA ENNPuqDM2D31ZX6kh8595fmG3ynPNkHs0Brdw6D9BWXl+JDrKdCwGA8AD Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0CrJADoHXJX/xbLJq1bhBQrUrghhAoih?= =?us-ascii?q?geBcAEBAQEBAWYnhHYVEWUCJgJgDAgBAYgsDrA2kDQBMIEBhSeBd4oXgloBBJk?= =?us-ascii?q?CjjqBU4d1hVyPf1SDcjoyAYkvAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,540,1459814400"; d="scan'208";a="636425835" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 28 Jun 2016 06:51:55 +0000 Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u5S6pt5u019806; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:51:55 GMT To: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain@tools.ietf.org, rtgwg@ietf.org From: Benoit Claise Subject: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain: YANG compilation Message-ID: <0f35716a-f7fd-e0a7-079c-6ff128f19043@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:51:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:51:59 -0000 Dear draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03, The YANG module compilation in your draft fails with the following warning: ietf-routing-key-chain@2016-06-27.yang:1: warning: unexpected modulename "ietf-key-chain" in ietf-routing-key-chain@2016-06-27.yang, should be ietf-routing-key-chain See http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html The previous version 02 was fine in that regards. This warning should have been flagged in idnits. Let me know if this was not the case. www.yangvalidator.com can also be useful. Regards, Benoit From nobody Mon Jun 27 23:59:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59E212DAEA for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rpODRdrl8Q1g for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-2.cisco.com (aer-iport-2.cisco.com [173.38.203.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E00EF12B029 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1025; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1467097168; x=1468306768; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tdLrcPZiTG0ycplUlgBY/cHeV6ypEqvGGBJ1/QS/3h8=; b=TY4pJ+1Txy6GI8tXS4aW71hDMQIbJl2sK3+ErTlX7wJ6GMrri2Iid/JN zj8KW5+WxTJbk6fQUiSRRdsFYNmGTjKb9OLQOrQOnjgbaeQjdIRqDOey4 wDz+5AbtbdfPSgpBbqedciHVb9bz9mc5E77jITHX637GElTVrKuqchiSo g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DPAQDVHnJX/xbLJq1bhBQrUrghgg+Be?= =?us-ascii?q?yKFdgKBaxQBAQEBAQEBZSeETQEBBCMVEUALGgImAgJXBwwIAQGILA6wNpA0AQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQYCASSBAYUngXeCVodBgloBBJkCjjqJSIVcj38eNoNyOjIBiS8BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,540,1459814400"; d="scan'208";a="635407895" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-1.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 28 Jun 2016 06:59:26 +0000 Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by aer-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u5S6xPiG021165; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:59:25 GMT Subject: Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain: YANG compilation To: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain@tools.ietf.org, rtgwg@ietf.org References: <0f35716a-f7fd-e0a7-079c-6ff128f19043@cisco.com> From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <916aea98-b4ad-e56a-2dd7-18826aec3f42@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 08:59:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0f35716a-f7fd-e0a7-079c-6ff128f19043@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:59:30 -0000 Also, note that 7 YANG modules currently fail because of this issue, while they compiled fine with v2. ietf-bier.yang ietf-isis-sr@2016-03-21.yang ietf-isis@2016-03-21.yang ietf-ospf-bfd@2016-03-20.yang ietf-ospf-sr@2016-03-20.yang ietf-ospf@2016-03-20.yang ietf-rip@2016-01-28.yang Search for "ietf-routing-key-chain" in http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html Regards, Benoit > Dear draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03, > > The YANG module compilation in your draft fails with the following > warning: > ietf-routing-key-chain@2016-06-27.yang:1: warning: unexpected > modulename "ietf-key-chain" in ietf-routing-key-chain@2016-06-27.yang, > should be ietf-routing-key-chain > See http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html > > The previous version 02 was fine in that regards. > > This warning should have been flagged in idnits. Let me know if this > was not the case. > www.yangvalidator.com can also be useful. > > Regards, Benoit From nobody Tue Jun 28 04:38:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A587B12D108; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:38:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-04.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160628113845.24032.49213.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:38:45 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:38:46 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Key Chain YANG Data Model Authors : Acee Lindem Yingzhen Qu Derek Yeung Ing-Wher Chen Jeffrey Zhang Yi Yang Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-04.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-06-28 Abstract: This document describes the key chain YANG data model. A key chain is a list of elements each containing a key, send lifetime, accept lifetime, and algorithm. By properly overlapping the send and accept lifetimes of multiple key chain elements, keys and algorithms may be gracefully updated. By representing them in a YANG data model, key distribution can be automated. Key chains are commonly used for routing protocol authentication and other applications. In some applications, the protocols do not use the key chain element key directly, but rather a key derivation function is used to derive a short-lived key from the key chain element key. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:49:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-05.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160628114906.24078.25803.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:49:06 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:49:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Key Chain YANG Data Model Authors : Acee Lindem Yingzhen Qu Derek Yeung Ing-Wher Chen Jeffrey Zhang Yi Yang Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-05.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-06-28 Abstract: This document describes the key chain YANG data model. A key chain is a list of elements each containing a key, send lifetime, accept lifetime, and algorithm. By properly overlapping the send and accept lifetimes of multiple key chain elements, keys and algorithms may be gracefully updated. By representing them in a YANG data model, key distribution can be automated. Key chains are commonly used for routing protocol authentication and other applications. In some applications, the protocols do not use the key chain element key directly, but rather a key derivation function is used to derive a short-lived key from the key chain element key. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Jun 28 04:55:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2AE12DE34; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:55:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-06.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.24.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160628115508.24139.86377.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 04:55:08 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:55:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Key Chain YANG Data Model Authors : Acee Lindem Yingzhen Qu Derek Yeung Ing-Wher Chen Jeffrey Zhang Yi Yang Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-06.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-06-28 Abstract: This document describes the key chain YANG data model. A key chain is a list of elements each containing a key, send lifetime, accept lifetime, and algorithm. By properly overlapping the send and accept lifetimes of multiple key chain elements, keys and algorithms may be gracefully updated. By representing them in a YANG data model, key distribution can be automated. Key chains are commonly used for routing protocol authentication and other applications. In some applications, the protocols do not use the key chain element key directly, but rather a key derivation function is used to derive a short-lived key from the key chain element key. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=991; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1467116808; x=1468326408; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+7PbbNRzUS3abMftS4ONC51mdf9r2sw7CadzRgJdiAE=; b=Jhc+fxfs0Xp9JvCZSo2sN+U2ZXHxkgj76XMQMJrQ2OtR1YGhjIwFa9rB kTmR7VBa/fBc/1iZ1m2Po/Nag906JPkMBKfWhURKr69esLt0bvTJ0sqV9 zY9M45yhYPIX8EHmknPFE4gzoRVYV75L24idMDP7LudCw22Sd4o9n+iml M=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,541,1459814400"; d="scan'208";a="635413650" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-3.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 28 Jun 2016 12:26:46 +0000 Received: from [10.60.67.84] (ams-bclaise-8913.cisco.com [10.60.67.84]) by aer-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u5SCQktR026518; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:26:46 GMT Subject: Re: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain: YANG compilation To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain@tools.ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" References: <0f35716a-f7fd-e0a7-079c-6ff128f19043@cisco.com> From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <3c1063e8-7600-d6bf-2989-c84d12e239d9@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:26:45 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 12:26:50 -0000 Thank you Acee. All updated at http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html Regards, B. > Fixed. > > On 6/28/16, 2:51 AM, "rtgwg on behalf of Benoit Claise (bclaise)" > wrote: > >> Dear draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-03, >> >> The YANG module compilation in your draft fails with the following >> warning: >> ietf-routing-key-chain@2016-06-27.yang:1: warning: unexpected modulename >> "ietf-key-chain" in ietf-routing-key-chain@2016-06-27.yang, should be >> ietf-routing-key-chain >> See http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html >> >> The previous version 02 was fine in that regards. >> >> This warning should have been flagged in idnits. Let me know if this was >> not the case. >> www.yangvalidator.com can also be useful. >> >> Regards, Benoit >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtgwg mailing list >> rtgwg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From nobody Thu Jun 30 16:42:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4C712B043; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:42:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-vrrp-00.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160630234246.29573.68870.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:42:46 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 23:42:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP) Authors : Xufeng Liu Athanasios Kyparlis Ravi Parikh Acee Lindem Mingui Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-vrrp-00.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2016-06-28 Abstract: This document describes a data model for Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP). Both version 2 and version 3 of VRRP are covered. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-vrrp/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-vrrp-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/