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RTGWG,
 
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opposition.
 
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The document currently has the following IPR disclosure associated
with it.
 
This last call will end on Friday June 16th.
 
Thanks,
Chris and Jeff
 
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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e73sm9481577wmd.1.2017.06.05.02.36.48 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jun 2017 02:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay To: rtgwg@ietf.org References: From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 10:36:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------06AABB85B41BD0A349A7AF47" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 09:36:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------06AABB85B41BD0A349A7AF47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In section 3 it states: This ordered convergence, is similar to the ordered FIB proposed defined in [RFC6976], but limited to only a "one hop" distance. As a consequence, it is simpler and becomes a local only feature not requiring interoperability; at the cost of only covering the transient forwarding loops involving this local router. Thus this mechanism is a private matter to the PLR and therefore does not introduce a requirement for multiple routers to co-operate, it seems like it ought to be informational. - Stewart On 04/06/2017 00:04, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > I support advancement and publication of this draft. 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In section 3 it states:

   This ordered convergence, is similar to the ordered FIB proposed
   defined in [RFC6976], but limited to only a "one hop" distance.  As a
   consequence, it is simpler and becomes a local only feature not
   requiring interoperability; at the cost of only covering the
   transient forwarding loops involving this local router.

Thus this mechanism is a private matter to the PLR and therefore does not introduce a requirement for multiple routers to co-operate, it seems like it ought to be informational.

- Stewart

On 04/06/2017 00:04, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
I support advancement and publication of this draft.  I think we should have the discussion of whether or not it should be standards track, BCP, or informational as invariably this question will arise during all the reviews. 
Thanks,
Acee

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM
To: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

RTGWG,
 
This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay.
 
 
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standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or
opposition.
 
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If multiple routers needed to act identically across the network I could see ST as better, but this is really a single router feature. - Stewart On 04/06/2017 17:47, Chris Bowers wrote: > > As a WG participant, I think standards track makes most sense, since > it specifies a precise behavior for a router under certain > conditions. It is likely that network operators and software > implementers will want to use the document as a means of communicating > about whether or not a given implementation supports that precise > behavior. In my opinion, a standards track document is the best > format to support that interaction. > > Chris > > *From:*Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:05 PM > *To:* Chris Bowers ; RTGWG > *Subject:* Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > I support advancement and publication of this draft. I think we > should have the discussion of whether or not it should be standards > track, BCP, or informational as invariably this question will arise > during all the reviews. > > Thanks, > > Acee > > *From: *rtgwg > > on behalf of Chris Bowers > > *Date: *Friday, June 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM > *To: *Routing WG > > *Subject: *WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > RTGWG, > > This email starts the two week WG last call for > draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ > > Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this > > standards track document, along with the reasoning for that > support or > > opposition. > > IPR: > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please > respond to > > this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The > > response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. 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Hi Chris

An RFC is surely sufficient to specify the behaviour of the router, and communicate to others the capability of a product.

If multiple routers needed to act identically across the network I could see ST as better, but this is really a single router feature.

- Stewart

On 04/06/2017 17:47, Chris Bowers wrote:

As a WG participant, I think standards track makes most sense, since it specifies a precise behavior for a router under certain conditions.  It is likely that network operators and software implementers will want to use the document as a means of communicating about whether or not a given implementation supports that precise behavior.  In my opinion, a standards track document is the best format to support that interaction.

 

Chris

 

From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:05 PM
To: Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>; RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

I support advancement and publication of this draft.  I think we should have the discussion of whether or not it should be standards track, BCP, or informational as invariably this question will arise during all the reviews. 

Thanks,

Acee

 

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM
To: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

RTGWG,

 

This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay.

 

 

Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this

standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or

opposition.

 

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this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The

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each author and each individual that has contributed to the document.

 

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with it.

 

This last call will end on Friday June 16th.

 

Thanks,

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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 70sm11078310wmu.22.2017.06.05.08.34.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jun 2017 08:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay To: Chris Bowers , "Acee Lindem (acee)" , RTGWG References: From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <3538c037-2dc1-4b3b-5e78-4c4b1683980f@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 16:34:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5758E3C203FE7486CDC4AD58" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:34:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5758E3C203FE7486CDC4AD58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will accept whatever the consensus is. - Stewart On 05/06/2017 16:22, Chris Bowers wrote: > > Stewart, > > It seems to me that this document is not qualitatively different from > the LFA, RLFA, and > > node-protecting LFA RFCs which were all published as standards track. > The behavior of the PLR > > in those documents is also a local matter, and in principle can be > deployed on a single router without > > the knowledge of the rest of the network (except for allowing > establishment of targeted LDP > > sessions in the case of remote LFA). > > Publishing this draft as standards track seems to be consistent with > the decision made on those drafts. > > Chris > > *From:*Stewart Bryant [mailto:stewart.bryant@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2017 4:48 AM > *To:* Chris Bowers ; Acee Lindem (acee) > ; RTGWG > *Subject:* Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > Hi Chris > > An RFC is surely sufficient to specify the behaviour of the router, > and communicate to others the capability of a product. > > If multiple routers needed to act identically across the network I > could see ST as better, but this is really a single router feature. > > - Stewart > > On 04/06/2017 17:47, Chris Bowers wrote: > > As a WG participant, I think standards track makes most sense, > since it specifies a precise behavior for a router under certain > conditions. It is likely that network operators and software > implementers will want to use the document as a means of > communicating about whether or not a given implementation supports > that precise behavior. In my opinion, a standards track document > is the best format to support that interaction. > > Chris > > *From:*Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:05 PM > *To:* Chris Bowers > ; RTGWG > > *Subject:* Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > I support advancement and publication of this draft. I think we > should have the discussion of whether or not it should be > standards track, BCP, or informational as invariably this question > will arise during all the reviews. > > Thanks, > > Acee > > *From: *rtgwg > on behalf of Chris Bowers > > > *Date: *Friday, June 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM > *To: *Routing WG > > *Subject: *WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > RTGWG, > > This email starts the two week WG last call for > draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ > > Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication > of this > > standards track document, along with the reasoning for that > support or > > opposition. > > IPR: > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please > respond to > > this email stating whether or not you are aware of any > relevant IPR. The > > response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The > document will > > not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from > > each author and each individual that has contributed to the > document. > > The document currently has the following IPR disclosure > associated > > with it. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2565/ > > This last call will end on Friday June 16th. > > Thanks, > > Chris and Jeff > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rtgwg mailing list > > rtgwg@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > --------------5758E3C203FE7486CDC4AD58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


I will accept whatever the consensus is.

- Stewart

On 05/06/2017 16:22, Chris Bowers wrote:

Stewart,

 

It seems to me that this document is not qualitatively different from the LFA, RLFA, and

node-protecting LFA RFCs which were all published as standards track.  The behavior of the PLR

in those documents is also a local matter, and in principle can be deployed on a single router without

the knowledge of the rest of the network (except for allowing establishment of targeted LDP

sessions in the case of remote LFA). 

 

Publishing this draft as standards track seems to be consistent with the decision made on those drafts.

 

Chris

 

 

From: Stewart Bryant [mailto:stewart.bryant@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 4:48 AM
To: Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>; Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>; RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

Hi Chris

An RFC is surely sufficient to specify the behaviour of the router, and communicate to others the capability of a product.

If multiple routers needed to act identically across the network I could see ST as better, but this is really a single router feature.

- Stewart

On 04/06/2017 17:47, Chris Bowers wrote:

As a WG participant, I think standards track makes most sense, since it specifies a precise behavior for a router under certain conditions.  It is likely that network operators and software implementers will want to use the document as a means of communicating about whether or not a given implementation supports that precise behavior.  In my opinion, a standards track document is the best format to support that interaction.

 

Chris

 

From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:05 PM
To: Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>; RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

I support advancement and publication of this draft.  I think we should have the discussion of whether or not it should be standards track, BCP, or informational as invariably this question will arise during all the reviews. 

Thanks,

Acee

 

From: rtgwg <rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM
To: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

RTGWG,

 

This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay.

 

 

Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this

standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or

opposition.

 

IPR:

If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to

this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The

response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will

not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from

each author and each individual that has contributed to the document.

 

The document currently has the following IPR disclosure associated

with it.

 

This last call will end on Friday June 16th.

 

Thanks,

Chris and Jeff

 




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I= 9;ve got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label an= d MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions and a= pologize if these already were considered, discussed.
In the Rout= ing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being modeled but no= t the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YANG D= Ata Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines outgoing labels not as array of LSE= s but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS labels. In the latter document I don'= ;t see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) are presented for each of labels in t= he array. Hence my questions:
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  • s= hould data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than model of= only 20 bit-long label.
Appreciate you comments.
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Regards,
Greg
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2017 17:43:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.52.225 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jun 2017 17:43:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Greg Mirsky Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 17:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 00:43:42 -0000 --001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Acee, I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS LSP must include TC and TTL. And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don't see it in grouping mpls-label-stack of the ietf-routing-types). Regards, Greg On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Greg, et al, > > From: Greg Mirsky > Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" types@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org> > Cc: Routing WG , "mpls@ietf.org" > Subject: MPLS label and LSE data models > Resent-From: > Resent-To: Yingzhen Qu , , > Acee Lindem , Christian Hopps , < > lberger@labn.net> > Resent-Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > > Dear Authors, et.al, > I've got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label > and MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions a= nd > apologize if these already were considered, discussed. > In the Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being > modeled but not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use > rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YANG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines > outgoing labels not as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS > labels. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) > are presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questions: > > - should there be data model of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL > and TC but separately); > > > - should data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than > model of only 20 bit-long label. > > Where else so you see a requirement for a label stack with entries that > don=E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to static provision= ing of > static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-routing-types. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > Appreciate you comments. > > Regards, > Greg > > --001a113d66b2296c4005513fe9ca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,
I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS L= SP must include TC and TTL. And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don'= ;t see it in grouping=C2=A0mpls-label-stack of the ietf-routing-types).

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 = at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
Greg, et al,=C2=A0

From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>=
Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 = PM
To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routin= g-types@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@i= etf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
Subject: MPLS label and LSE data mo= dels
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org> Resent-To: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com= >, <xuf= eng_liu@jabil.com>, Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, <lberger@labn.net>
Resent-Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 a= t 6:28 PM

Dear Authors, e= t.al,
I've got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS= label and MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussi= ons and apologize if these already were considered, discussed.
In the Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label bein= g modeled but not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use rt-types:mpls-la= bel, e.g. YANG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines outgoing labels not= as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS labels. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic= Class (TC) are presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questio= ns:
  • should there be data model of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL an= d TC but separately);
  • should data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than mod= el of only 20 bit-long label.
Where else so you see =C2=A0a requirement for a label stack wit= h entries that don=E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to sta= tic provisioning of static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-= routing-types.=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee


Appreciate you comments.

Regards,
Greg

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From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of stephane.litkowski= @orange.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 08:53 To: Chris Bowers; RTGWG Subject: RE: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay Support as author From: rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Chris Bowers Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 22:43 To: RTGWG Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay RTGWG, This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-dela= y. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or opposition. IPR: If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. 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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 08:53
To: Chris Bowers; RTGWG
Subject: RE: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

Support as author

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From: rtgwg [<= a href=3D"mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Chris Bowers
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 22:43
To: RTGWG
Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay

 

RTGWG,

 

This email starts the two week WG last = call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay.

 

 

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each author and each individual that ha= s contributed to the document.

 

The document currently has the followin= g IPR disclosure associated

with it.

 

This last call will end on Friday June = 16th.

 

Thanks,

Chris and Jeff

 

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Re: MPLS label and LSE data models To: Xufeng Liu Cc: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114055529c4bd605514f2b8a" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:56:11 -0000 --001a114055529c4bd605514f2b8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Xufeng, thank you for helping me with your insight. I have couple follow-up questions: - yes, grouping mpls-label-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why it needs id, sequence identifier. I'd expect the label stack already be properly ordered; - if we agree that the mpls-label-stack is ordered list, then figuring out which LSE should have BoS set is indeed benign and may not require t= o be explicit; - as for Static MPLS LSP I propose: - no need to have outgoing_label and outgoing_labels as the former is special case of the latter; - consider whether to use rt-type:mpls-label-stack rather than rt-type:mpls-label. It gets tricky on transit nodes but we, it seems to me, need operations on TTL and TC being explicit on ingress. Regards, Greg On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Xufeng Liu wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > 1. As you mentioned, grouping mpls-label-stack is defined in > routing-types, so MPLS LSE is covered, right? > 2. Bottom-of-the-stack flag should not be needed in the model, > because the label stack is a list with sequence ID=E2=80=99s, which te= ll us the > beginning and the end of the stack. > 3. The discussion on static MPLS LSP has started, but not converged > yet. There are still open issues w.r.t. how to model the label stack a= nd > stack operations. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Do you have a > proposal? > > Thanks, > > - Xufeng > > > > *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2017 8:44 PM > *To:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Cc:* draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: MPLS label and LSE data models > > > > Hi Acee, > > I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS LSP must include TC and TTL. > And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don't see it in grouping mpls-lab= el-stack > of the ietf-routing-types). > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > > Greg, et al, > > > > *From: *Greg Mirsky > *Date: *Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > *To: *"draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" types@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org> > *Cc: *Routing WG , "mpls@ietf.org" > *Subject: *MPLS label and LSE data models > *Resent-From: * > *Resent-To: *Yingzhen Qu , = , > Acee Lindem , Christian Hopps , < > lberger@labn.net> > *Resent-Date: *Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM > > > > Dear Authors, et.al, > > I've got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label > and MPLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions a= nd > apologize if these already were considered, discussed. > > In the Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being > modeled but not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use > rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YANG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines > outgoing labels not as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS > labels. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) > are presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questions: > > - should there be data model of MPLS LSE in rt-types (it does have TTL > and TC but separately); > > > - should data model of Static MPLS LSP use MPLS LSE model rather than > model of only 20 bit-long label. > > Where else so you see a requirement for a label stack with entries that > don=E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to static provision= ing of > static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-routing-types. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > Appreciate you comments. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > --001a114055529c4bd605514f2b8a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Xufeng,
thank you for helping me with your insight.= I have couple follow-up questions:
  • yes, grouping mpls-la= bel-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why it needs id, sequence identifi= er. I'd expect the label stack already be properly ordered;
  • if = we agree that the mpls-label-stack is ordered list, then figuring out which= LSE should have BoS set is indeed benign and may not require to be explici= t;
  • as for Static MPLS LSP I propose:
    • no need to have ou= tgoing_label and outgoing_labels as the former is special case of the latte= r;
    • consider whether to use rt-type:mpls-label-stack rather than rt-= type:mpls-label. It gets tricky on transit nodes but we, it seems to me, ne= ed operations on TTL and TC being explicit on ingress.
R= egards,
Greg

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Xufeng Liu <Xufeng_Liu= @jabil.com> wrote:

Hi Greg,

=C2=A0

  1. As you mentioned, grouping mpls-label-stack is defined in routing-types, s= o MPLS LSE is covered, right?
  2. Bottom-of-the-stack flag should not be needed in th= e model,=C2=A0 because the label stack is a list with sequence ID=E2=80=99s= , which tell us the beginning and the end of the stack.
    3. <= li class=3D"m_19761024394473048MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0in">= The discussion on static MPLS LSP has started, but not converged yet. There= are still open issues w.r.t. how to model the label stack and stack operat= ions. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Do you have a proposal?

Thanks,

- Xufeng

=C2=A0

From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 8:44 PM
To: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mp= ls-static-yang@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org
Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models

=C2=A0

Hi Acee,

I think rather of the contrary, Static MPLS LSP must= include TC and TTL. And Bottom-of-the-stack flag as well (I don't see = it in grouping=C2=A0mpls-label= -stack of the ietf-routing-types).

=C2=A0

Regards= ,

Greg

=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) &= lt;acee@cisco.com&g= t; wrote:

Greg, e= t al,=C2=A0

= =C2=A0

From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM
To: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" &= lt;draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-= mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org>
Cc: Routing WG <rtgwg@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>
Subject: MPLS label and LSE data models
Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: Yingzhen Qu <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com>, <xufeng_liu@jabil.com>, Acee Li= ndem <acee@cisco.com= >, Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>, <lberger@labn.net>
Resent-Date: Monday, June 5, 2017 at 6:28 PM

= =C2=A0

Dear Au= thors, et.al,

I'v= e got a question, or several of them, about data models of MPLS label and M= PLS label stack element (LSE). I ahve not followed the discussions and apol= ogize if these already were considered, discussed.

In the = Routing Types document I've found that only MPLS label being modeled bu= t not the MPLS LSE. As result, models that use rt-types:mpls-label, e.g. YA= NG DAta Model for MPLS Static LSPs, defines outgoing labels not as array of LSEs but as array (leaf-list) of MPLS labe= ls. In the latter document I don't see how TTL and Traffic Class (TC) a= re presented for each of labels in the array. Hence my questions:=

  • should there be data model of MPLS LSE in = rt-types (it does have TTL and TC but separately);
  • should data model of Static MPLS LSP use M= PLS LSE model rather than model of only 20 bit-long label.

Where e= lse so you see =C2=A0a requirement for a label stack with entries that don= =E2=80=99t contain TC and TTL? This seems specific to static provisioning o= f static LSPs rather than a general requirement for ietf-routing-types.=C2=A0

= =C2=A0

Thanks,=

Acee=

= =C2=A0

= =C2=A0

Appreci= ate you comments.

= =C2=A0

Regards= ,

Greg=

=C2=A0


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List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 20:16:25 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Protocol (RIP) Authors : Xufeng Liu Prateek Sarda Vikram Choudhary Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-04.txt Pages : 43 Date : 2017-06-06 Abstract: This document describes a data model for the Routing Information Protocol (RIP). Both RIP version 2 and RIPng are covered. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jun 9 08:05:56 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF46127076 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:05:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TqbsbhartLJI for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr0-x234.google.com (mail-wr0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A39AA126E3A for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x234.google.com with SMTP id v104so36236079wrb.0 for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 08:05:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=l9me5uP9gpz9WTkc45jklk8AzZTxhUGr6MfWFGjvgjM=; b=bYOX1PS2HD4JX0+BQnvRDxyA5+kOO7quc7+ZFHBBQpcytCYU1L2/CfEFMyAVhNDLQ7 E6xSJezMTrp/qdGhbRO1fpzXxlj0qLsTHGNF7oG/3V94EmNTU3GtWc3yai/sNMoAACcm wmN/0hw7lH3fdcrz/5mJkRJJjbk9vMIbk5aNCum/WA/GxXPsDzjLA3tCk1sJqTClwFh2 s9nSZY8Ny5Z0xqLdLYw6W4tuJdgrLMRoWVW5LViKkRkr1DsknD5PQS+Oa4vKIQc8qGjL zB0pwuzViUwRUxGqBEndB6MXUYRQzgCWRhhdd9aCc21cx/UH50xtvb9oV6eOMRWB4zdY xudw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=l9me5uP9gpz9WTkc45jklk8AzZTxhUGr6MfWFGjvgjM=; b=HzErFcyvnXwEaBN8C83lq35982/zFC4y8ZK1UA10LVXtGQvflQQ+eqeKHpTjcmZ6Xu JlOJf1AGpW/cmrjxhszZ8q9SyvlGqQd7fbZrPwPacFeIHxnZ524E2nOp/w5CFETwg/8Y 21A0wsq+xRLvdaxc5oEEvQuqt0u0cEAB0rVMGmvNIcW4J2B20B5C2s2Sv5IFCMCi/2KJ sOyeE7ug19bjc3fUSrqCjNk+4saTQMtCaW9b4oTHoKgJMVRvmpect8uBHC9Divb/akDa hxGVFjL+UeCcaasAAYVWLzeH1ty1UPkzJdcC1Opy18plTTLKm0j7vH2Tkf3K8Fzi4agY jewg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBkZUeDTtwnIXEaDuQDnRYS8MjYTXj6R2BuqrRYzHJggIGDGYFr 6vm0mT374szXj6Nc1QspwgzNCtJmkxcE X-Received: by 10.223.133.167 with SMTP id 36mr22190339wrt.86.1497020749914; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 08:05:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.131.66 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:05:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <767b9462-80ad-2942-f67e-31789239b894@cisco.com> References: <767b9462-80ad-2942-f67e-31789239b894@cisco.com> From: Alia Atlas Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 11:05:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG module authors To: "rtgwg@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1147f6d00529260551884e48" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 15:05:54 -0000 --001a1147f6d00529260551884e48 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At IETF 98 in RTGWG, I mentioned the need for clear guidelines to handle the changes coming for structuring YANG models. This is the resulting guidance. Regards, Alia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Benoit Claise Date: Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:56 AM Subject: [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG module authors To: NETMOD Working Group Dear all, Now that the new NETMOD and NETCONF charters have been approved, it's time to think about the guidelines for YANG module authors. The Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) addresses the so-called "OpState problem" that has been the subject of much discussion in the IETF. NMDA is still in development, and there will be a transition period before NMDA solutions are universally available. The NETMOD Datastore Design Team and the Routing Yang Architecture Design Team have worked with Alia and Benoit to create initial guidelines for how the NMDA, as defined in draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores , impacts Yang models. The draft-dsdt-nmda-guidelines individual draft was foundational in helping creating those guidelines. If you have questions or concerns on how these guidelines should apply to work of interest, please contact your WG Chairs or ADs. It is our strong recommendation, as ADs with agreement from the NETMOD WG Chairs, that models SHOULD move as quickly as possible to the NMDA. The specific approach to be taken for models being developed now and during the NMDA transition period should be based on both the expected usage and the maturity of the data model. 1. New models and models that are not concerned with the operational state of configuration information SHOULD immediately be structured to be NMDA-compatible. 2. Models that require immediate support for "in use" and "system created" information SHOULD be structured for NMDA. Then derived versions of these models SHOULD be created, either by hand or with suitable tools, that follow the current modeling strategies. In some cases, the non-NMDA model may be an existing model and not derived from the NMDA model. In all cases, the NMDA and non-NMDA modules SHOULD be published in the same document, with NMDA modules in the document main body and the non-NMDA modules in an Appendix. The use of the non-NMDA model will allow temporary bridging of the time period until NMDA implementations are available. The non-NMDA module names should include =E2=80=99-state=E2=80=99 appended. We would like to thank Kent Watsen, Lou Berger, Rob Wilton, Martin Bjorklund, Phil Shafer, Acee Lindem, Chris Hopps, Juergen Schoenwaelder, and all others who helped develop these guidelines. Regards, Alia Atlas, Routing AD Deborah Brungard, Routing AD Alvaro Retana, Routing AD Warren Kumari, Operations & Management AD Benoit Claise, Operations & Management AD _______________________________________________ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod --001a1147f6d00529260551884e48 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At IETF 98 in RTGWG, I mentioned the need for clear g= uidelines to handle the changes coming for structuring YANG models.=C2=A0 T= his is the resulting guidance.=C2=A0

Regards,
Alia


---------- Fo= rwarded message ----------
From: Benoit Cl= aise <bclaise= @cisco.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:56 AM
Subject: = [netmod] Important: Guidelines for YANG module authors
To: NETMOD Workin= g Group <netmod@ietf.org>
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Dear all,

Now that the new NETMOD and NETCONF charters have been approved, it's time to think about the guidelines for YANG module authors.
The Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA) addresses the so-called "OpState problem" that has been the subject of much discussion in the IETF. NMDA is still in development, and there will be a transition period before NMDA solutions are universally available.

The NETMOD Datastore Design Team and the Routing Yang Architecture Design Team have worked with Alia and Benoit to create initial guidelines for how the NMDA, as defined in = draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores, impacts Yang models. The draft-dsdt-nmda-guidelines individual draft was foundational in helping creating those guidelines.

If you have questions or concerns on how these guidelines should apply to work of interest, please contact your WG Chairs or ADs.

It is our strong recommendation, as ADs with agreement from the NETMOD WG Chairs, that models SHOULD move as quickly as possible to the NMDA. The specific approach to be taken for models being developed now and during the NMDA transition period should be based on both the expected usage and the maturity of the data model.

1. New models and models that are not concerned with the operational state of configuration information SHOULD immediately be structured to be NMDA-compatible.

2. Models that require immediate support for "in use" and &qu= ot;system created" information SHOULD be structured for NMDA. Then derived versions of these models SHOULD be created, either by hand or with suitable tools, that follow the current modeling strategies. In some cases, the non-NMDA model may be an existing model and not derived from the NMDA model. In all cases, the NMDA and non-NMDA modules SHOULD be published in the same document, with NMDA modules in the document main body and the non-NMDA modules in an Appendix. The use of the non-NMDA model will allow temporary bridging of the time period until NMDA implementations are available. The non-NMDA module names should include =E2=80=99-state=E2=80=99 appended.

We would like to thank Kent Watsen, Lou Berger, Rob Wilton, Martin Bjorklund, Phil Shafer, Acee Lindem, Chris Hopps, Juergen Schoenwaelder, and all others who helped develop these guidelines.

Regards,
Alia Atlas, Routing AD
Deborah Brungard, Routing AD
Alvaro Retana, Routing AD
Warren Kumari, Operations & Management AD
Benoit Claise, Operations & Management AD

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--001a1147f6d00529260551884e48-- From nobody Sun Jun 11 23:32:42 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393D129C1C; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 23:32:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cesnet.cz Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JJM4I9lotlnM; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 23:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53048129C0E; Sun, 11 Jun 2017 23:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:67c:1220:80c:921b:eff:fe59:4360] (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:1220:80c:921b:eff:fe59:4360]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B350420011; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 08:32:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cesnet.cz; s=office2; t=1497249155; bh=xZwzO68dmKjWzFEhznU2OrIescb5+Z0sYo0W/scn0vs=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=aLqaLpzgYMlZKXncKsFh/QeG/tPZs/CxsxzggKt11uCaEAI2PzqfGWclNtl+7mu/4 3phuWRTbkyAhWKdmBEqHyuIbysQzd6ubDTAMjLdKm5vI4PFZ+aJ4fQ2vVtFkD0wPLE HxLzVPB5gde1HLaLL3f95wOuWmuaxfWpylHXsCJw= Subject: Re: Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-04 To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types.all@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" References: <823c6e8a-9544-5544-8a99-d05c0ffc7017@cesnet.cz> From: =?UTF-8?B?UmFkZWsgS3JlasSNw60=?= Message-ID: <6fc7d6b3-bf13-6861-01d3-c0ed52532629@cesnet.cz> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 08:32:35 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 06:32:41 -0000 Hi Acee, sorry for the delay. I've checked the changes and the document as well as both the modules seem fine to me now. Regards, Radek Dne 24.5.2017 v 18:23 Acee Lindem (acee) napsal(a): > Hi Radek, > > I believe I have addressed your YANG Doctor comments in the -05 version of > the draft. I used the template in RFC6087Bis, Appendix C which resulted in > some reorganization of ietf-routing-types. > > Thanks, > Acee > > On 5/24/17, 6:45 AM, "Radek Krejčí" wrote: > >> Reviewer: Radek Krejčí >> Review result: Ready with Nits >> >> I have reviewed changes made to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types between >> revision 02 and 04 (04 was published just a week after 03). The main >> change is splitting the module into 2 modules: ietf-routing-types and >> iana-routing-types. >> >> iana-routing-types: >> - since it is IANA-maintained module, IANA should be the 'organization' >> and also the 'contact' value should be changed accordingly (see >> iana-if-type) >> >> ietf-routing-types: >> - please follow the contact template available in RFC 6087 Appendix B (or >> RFC6087bis, Appendix C) >> >> draft text: >> - if iana-routing-types is supposed to be IANA-maintained module, isn't >> IANA also supposed to be XML registrant contact (IANA Considerations >> section)? >> - my fault from previous review - since the module imports >> ietf-yang-types, it MUST contain reference to its RFC, which is RFC 6991 >> (not RFC 6021 as I wrote in my review). So move RFC 6991 reference from >> Informative references section into Normative references where it will >> replace reference to RFC 6021. >> >> Radek From nobody Mon Jun 12 17:39:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130EB12944B; Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:39:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hGU-sZ-lRmGJ; 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Regards, Jeff > On Jun 12, 2017, at 17:39, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: >=20 > Jeff, Chris,=20 >=20 > The authors believe we are ready for a WG last call. >=20 > Thanks, > Acee=20 >=20 >> On 6/12/17, 2:32 AM, "Radek Krej=C4=8D=C3=AD" wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Acee, >>=20 >> sorry for the delay. I've checked the changes and the document as well as= >> both the modules seem fine to me now. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Radek >>=20 >>=20 >> Dne 24.5.2017 v 18:23 Acee Lindem (acee) napsal(a): >>> Hi Radek,=20 >>>=20 >>> I believe I have addressed your YANG Doctor comments in the -05 version >>> of >>> the draft. I used the template in RFC6087Bis, Appendix C which resulted >>> in >>> some reorganization of ietf-routing-types. >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Acee=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 5/24/17, 6:45 AM, "Radek Krej=C4=8D=C3=AD" wrote= : >>>>=20 >>>> Reviewer: Radek Krej=C4=8D=C3=AD >>>> Review result: Ready with Nits >>>>=20 >>>> I have reviewed changes made to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types between >>>> revision 02 and 04 (04 was published just a week after 03). The main >>>> change is splitting the module into 2 modules: ietf-routing-types and >>>> iana-routing-types. >>>>=20 >>>> iana-routing-types: >>>> - since it is IANA-maintained module, IANA should be the 'organization'= >>>> and also the 'contact' value should be changed accordingly (see >>>> iana-if-type) >>>>=20 >>>> ietf-routing-types: >>>> - please follow the contact template available in RFC 6087 Appendix B >>>> (or >>>> RFC6087bis, Appendix C) >>>>=20 >>>> draft text: >>>> - if iana-routing-types is supposed to be IANA-maintained module, isn't= >>>> IANA also supposed to be XML registrant contact (IANA Considerations >>>> section)?=20 >>>> - my fault from previous review - since the module imports >>>> ietf-yang-types, it MUST contain reference to its RFC, which is RFC >>>> 6991 >>>> (not RFC 6021 as I wrote in my review). So move RFC 6991 reference from= >>>> Informative references section into Normative references where it will >>>> replace reference to RFC 6021. >>>>=20 >>>> Radek >>=20 >=20 From nobody Tue Jun 13 02:49:35 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF6413177B; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XE9IA0OFMTy6; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x243.google.com (mail-lf0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4CFE131655; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id o28so11719085lfk.1; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:36:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:cc:message-id:thread-topic :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TaUhg/1XPYdO9JM6zJx9W1H5COAJUTxxzN9HdboNXq0=; b=qmv8GZARN7zxVgi5g0kTfVtw2RYtQxp6pYFDu4oMWd+40Iq+eiYWf9yS5a7/duB3wh wRJXgmurUpuEH62CzVbjov7gWTeits2Po/FxWlt6jrCE0SFBiGVN4KnoV/8aiafSaoU4 AcwJTPWIjQJxHL3YcnVaNAjDb1d1FfXnx/gXnOXw0sN+vkfYTHAnwRgGZvK0gFBjuTBn j58wLIm45uPnTAhM8bOL4BJGnejrA1YhXOGl1gOgBgSQuuT5O9c7wM3VFlqdE8L5OEBq iqKll+pdyqC9K4lrYOcEHzJLdDAKHkV2xgw/HPD2E30RV9eEqHO9twJkWeDCb75l3ZZf rzLQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:cc:message-id :thread-topic:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TaUhg/1XPYdO9JM6zJx9W1H5COAJUTxxzN9HdboNXq0=; b=cvOzRn2O2QDR/aOe3A0TXDXYL3f6ceut+pNizolwCOea0CW7FstjbJ4s2ZtLb7C9Vi Ur3ChMtuvMxSt1GmDkPQbU606kDPRHFDp7lyNeKevK/vg1tUgXvS6NBMv4KF36QHPlbP rodCEMVAGy29OVL4gC6+Ng2fAVfett6eeRAhJmUdxNU8G+NFFuFGenCxjSgmVT+kwaWH d1xqadRVFcvbhND1K3wF45iIQLFdasAvirAMkVrR94D1hWoil0HLAOWuHz2IYzz3/3AJ 5WqGvVUMuTsUL7+pAPwTQT4QywXIOMTtKvphYdxglkeClgX7YINNarPjsHis/SOCE/JI fQhA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcDpHUDHnzLcr/EBMIiuWeWlJiqfwYCHe9/3FxtFnhmNLSD9khm5 UwS8wrxFVE6WdPpE X-Received: by 10.46.6.2 with SMTP id 2mr4707224ljg.136.1497346589768; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.237.14.64] (conf-n14-p64.kthopen.kth.se. [130.237.14.64]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10sm3231795lja.24.2017.06.13.02.36.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:36:28 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.21.0.170409 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:36:27 -0700 Subject: RTGWG IPR poll draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types From: Jeff Tantsura To: RTGWG CC: rtgwg-chairs , Message-ID: <61F864E7-3262-4371-B09E-6A3DD06B7BB8@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: RTGWG IPR poll draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 09:49:33 -0000 Dear RTGWG, The authors of draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types believe that the draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). Before we do the WGLC we want to do the IPR poll on the draft. This email is to start the IPR poll. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list.* The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each and every author and contributor. If you are on the RTGWG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. 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[130.237.14.64]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10sm3231795lja.24.2017.06.13.02.38.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:38:16 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.21.0.170409 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 02:38:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [Rtg-dt-yang-arch] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-04 From: Jeff Tantsura To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" CC: RTG YANG Design Team , Chris Bowers , Routing WG Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Rtg-dt-yang-arch] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-04 References: <823c6e8a-9544-5544-8a99-d05c0ffc7017@cesnet.cz> <6fc7d6b3-bf13-6861-01d3-c0ed52532629@cesnet.cz> In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 09:51:27 -0000 Acee, Please fix nits. =20 Cheers, Jeff =20 On 6/13/17, 00:45, "Rtg-dt-yang-arch on behalf of Jeff Tantsura" wrote: Hi Acee, =20 Thanks, will do. =20 Regards, Jeff =20 > On Jun 12, 2017, at 17:39, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: >=20 > Jeff, Chris,=20 >=20 > The authors believe we are ready for a WG last call. >=20 > Thanks, > Acee=20 >=20 >> On 6/12/17, 2:32 AM, "Radek Krej=C4=8D=C3=AD" wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Acee, >>=20 >> sorry for the delay. I've checked the changes and the document as we= ll as >> both the modules seem fine to me now. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Radek >>=20 >>=20 >> Dne 24.5.2017 v 18:23 Acee Lindem (acee) napsal(a): >>> Hi Radek,=20 >>>=20 >>> I believe I have addressed your YANG Doctor comments in the -05 ver= sion >>> of >>> the draft. I used the template in RFC6087Bis, Appendix C which resu= lted >>> in >>> some reorganization of ietf-routing-types. >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Acee=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 5/24/17, 6:45 AM, "Radek Krej=C4=8D=C3=AD" wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Reviewer: Radek Krej=C4=8D=C3=AD >>>> Review result: Ready with Nits >>>>=20 >>>> I have reviewed changes made to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types bet= ween >>>> revision 02 and 04 (04 was published just a week after 03). The ma= in >>>> change is splitting the module into 2 modules: ietf-routing-types = and >>>> iana-routing-types. >>>>=20 >>>> iana-routing-types: >>>> - since it is IANA-maintained module, IANA should be the 'organiza= tion' >>>> and also the 'contact' value should be changed accordingly (see >>>> iana-if-type) >>>>=20 >>>> ietf-routing-types: >>>> - please follow the contact template available in RFC 6087 Appendi= x B >>>> (or >>>> RFC6087bis, Appendix C) >>>>=20 >>>> draft text: >>>> - if iana-routing-types is supposed to be IANA-maintained module, = isn't >>>> IANA also supposed to be XML registrant contact (IANA Consideratio= ns >>>> section)?=20 >>>> - my fault from previous review - since the module imports >>>> ietf-yang-types, it MUST contain reference to its RFC, which is RF= C >>>> 6991 >>>> (not RFC 6021 as I wrote in my review). So move RFC 6991 reference= from >>>> Informative references section into Normative references where it = will >>>> replace reference to RFC 6021. >>>>=20 >>>> Radek >>=20 >=20 =20 _______________________________________________ Rtg-dt-yang-arch mailing list Rtg-dt-yang-arch@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-dt-yang-arch =20 From nobody Tue Jun 13 05:16:49 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202C413169E; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 05:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DAlBTj3wMx-t; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 05:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.chopps.org (smtp.chopps.org [54.88.81.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4925C12E05D; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 05:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tops.chopps.org (47-50-69-38.static.klmz.mi.charter.com [47.50.69.38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by smtp.chopps.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6FC2623AD; Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:16:42 +0000 (UTC) References: <61F864E7-3262-4371-B09E-6A3DD06B7BB8@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.18; emacs 25.1.1 From: Christian Hopps To: Jeff Tantsura Cc: RTGWG , rtgwg-chairs , draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org Subject: Re: RTGWG IPR poll draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types In-reply-to: <61F864E7-3262-4371-B09E-6A3DD06B7BB8@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:16:41 -0400 Message-ID: <87y3swhyl2.fsf@chopps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:16:48 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Jeff Tantsura writes: > Dear RTGWG, > > The authors of draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types believe that the > draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). > > Before we do the WGLC we want to do the IPR poll on the draft. > > This email is to start the IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types? I am not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types. Thanks, Chris. > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each and every author and contributor. > > If you are on the RTGWG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, > Jeff & Chris --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEm56yH/NF+m1FHa6lLh2DDte4MCUFAlk/16kACgkQLh2DDte4 MCXmpA//fwFYj1FEyLW38T2xCu/4M2JMY+LipyXEr5NHqA99O4c0YA/nqUakCJ6h GBZ4BgwMzNawkohsBKSbNZBDvV+bkLVePa22d4Zj9bRrJw/xz36UM5aKE1f6FmuH gADn/wozWwVtMJCzy0u+mTnwo/g1DN5+fM7emn8yUWgyTgnaZ3Sy311Gv1QCcxDO n6Gve/kgA/fQZKQcVob3xPx3MaEb0gV0eVHh6uxWmHtni+EB3veacaax4obcYftz a68yvq0KcyJ88hkmm/pP59F9QKXCyMsuiqSGT18VLIzMGhDQjkXaV8owC9zJ2JKm mq9aNC4EOXrlSRwUlweef0MT2S0uVjbcP7YqeAVToSjsj3wf1LJEY3aGv9Kx0t4J D69N4BkNyEflLT7mnVRu63uyheYGuR5kmaS0rORLGXBDkj3VJnXuKRZpCFCSjX0T v/yw7edLhmObu7f2BRT2N5cjSzz6Afb/EvI+ZVZt5xyfmVQ0BBSI989xG3mU0ts5 Vkc5KmEFY6lKFvXI40kWirvnmwtDa9ZpRn3cAPi/8Qdjk55nrFDKcB6Wi4uKGNdk kchMRB+4pwLBWsu1FGY6bn/cQpJyJN867Ex06IsceFemkD/oPwulNRRJSxW4sb3O kHRmUgGuRTHXJ1v8cCjco1N9wAdbrGULKfjN3MAqxEKr57zILXk= =ALIe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Tue Jun 13 07:27:51 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7B61318BB; 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Lou On 6/13/2017 5:36 AM, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > Dear RTGWG, > > The authors of draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types believe that the > draft is ready for working group last call (WGLC). > > Before we do the WGLC we want to do the IPR poll on the draft. > > This email is to start the IPR poll. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list.* The > document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each and every author and contributor. > > If you are on the RTGWG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, > Jeff & Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > From nobody Tue Jun 13 07:46:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437FC1319CC; 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This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Area Common YANG Data Types Authors : Xufeng Liu Yingzhen Qu Acee Lindem Christian Hopps Lou Berger Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2017-06-13 Abstract: This document defines a collection of common data types using the YANG data modeling language. These derived common types are designed to be imported by other modules defined in the routing area. 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RFC 8177 Title: YANG Data Model for Key Chains Author: A. Lindem, Ed., Y. Qu, D. Yeung, I. Chen, J. Zhang Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: June 2017 Mailbox: acee@cisco.com, yingzhen.qu@huawei.com, derek@arrcus.com, Ing-Wher_Chen@jabil.com, zzhang@juniper.net Pages: 25 Characters: 46205 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-24.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8177 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8177 This document describes the key chain YANG data model. Key chains are commonly used for routing protocol authentication and other applications requiring symmetric keys. A key chain is a list containing one or more elements containing a Key ID, key string, send/accept lifetimes, and the associated authentication or encryption algorithm. By properly overlapping the send and accept lifetimes of multiple key chain elements, key strings and algorithms may be gracefully updated. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RTGWG, The consensus appears to be for the WG to request publication of this draft= as a standards track document. We still need IPR responses from two of the authors before we can proceed. Thanks, Chris and Jeff _____________________________________________ From: Chris Bowers Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 3:43 PM To: RTGWG Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay RTGWG, This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-dela= y. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or opposition. IPR: If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and each individual that has contributed to the document. The document currently has the following IPR disclosure associated with it. https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2565/ This last call will end on Friday June 16th. Thanks, Chris and Jeff --_000_MWHPR05MB282917F8DED2E45AA4CD3694A9C50MWHPR05MB2829namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RTGWG,
 
The consensus appears to be for the WG to requ= est publication of this draft as a standards track document.
 
We still need IPR responses from two of the au= thors before we can proceed.
 
Thanks,
Chris and Jeff
 
_____________________________________________
From: Chris Bowers
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 3:43 PM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay
 
 
RTGWG,
 
This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop= -delay.
 
 
Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this <= /div>
standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or=
opposition.
 
IPR:
If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond = to
this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. T= he
response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will=
not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from =
each author and each individual that has contributed to the document. =
 
The document currently has the following IPR disclosure associated
with it.
 
This last call will end on Friday June 16th.
 
Thanks,
Chris and Jeff
 
 --_000_MWHPR05MB282917F8DED2E45AA4CD3694A9C50MWHPR05MB2829namp_-- From nobody Tue Jun 20 12:17:31 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00F9128C84 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:17:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k_-5h8nEsXS7 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A629131605 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB5E11E37E; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:26:16 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt Message-ID: <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> References: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:17:30 -0000 I had a chance to followup on my email of April 2 regarding the route-target type. I am including a paste of it from the draft below for reference. The type covers core RFC 4360 route-target types and this is needed. In particular, it does a nice job in covering the common expressions of the typed route-targets in that RFC. There are other extended communities that have over time picked up semantics of route targets. The ES-Import route target type is an example of this, and would not be covered by the type described in the draft. It's my recommendation that while accommodating the well known types is laudible, some accommodation should be made for future types. A final note is that RFC 5701 defines an IPv6 specific route target type. I don't believe this is currently implemented, but will likely be a cause to update this module when it is. I believe is structurally problematic for the vpn-route-targets grouping, which only includes the route-target type as a leaf. : typedef route-target { : type string { : pattern : '(0:(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|' : + '[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d):(429496729[0-5]|42949672[0-8]\d|' : + '4294967[01]\d{2}|429496[0-6]\d{3}|42949[0-5]\d{4}|' : + '4294[0-8]\d{5}|429[0-3]\d{6}|42[0-8]\d{7}|4[01]\d{8}|' : + '[0-3]?\d{0,8}\d))|' : + '(1:(((\d|[1-9]\d|1\d{2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.){3}(\d|[1-9]\d|' : + '1\d{2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])):(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|' : + '65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d))|' : + '(2:(429496729[0-5]|42949672[0-8]\d|4294967[01]\d{2}|' : + '429496[0-6]\d{3}|42949[0-5]\d{4}|4294[0-8]\d{5}|' : + '429[0-3]\d{6}|42[0-8]\d{7}|4[01]\d{8}|[0-3]?\d{0,8}\d):' : + '(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|' : + '[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d))'; : } : description : "A route target is an 8-octet BGP extended community : initially identifying a set of sites in a BGP : VPN (RFC 4364). However, it has since taken on a more : general role in BGP route filtering. : A route target consists of three fields: : a 2-octet type field, an administrator field, : and an assigned number field. : According to the data formats for type 0, 1, and 2 defined in : RFC4360 and RFC5668, the encoding pattern is defined as: : : 0:2-octet-asn:4-octet-number : 1:4-octet-ipv4addr:2-octet-number : 2:4-octet-asn:2-octet-number. : : Some valid examples are: 0:100:100, 1:1.1.1.1:100, and : 2:1234567890:203."; : reference : "RFC4360: BGP Extended Communities Attribute. : RFC5668: 4-Octet AS Specific BGP Extended Community."; : } On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 08:27:14AM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Routing Area Common YANG Data Types > Authors : Xufeng Liu > Yingzhen Qu > Acee Lindem > Christian Hopps > Lou Berger > Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt > Pages : 33 > Date : 2017-06-13 > > Abstract: > This document defines a collection of common data types using the > YANG data modeling language. These derived common types are designed > to be imported by other modules defined in the routing area. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From nobody Tue Jun 20 12:25:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67EC1252BA for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:25:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hup_E5BjfcRb for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 261FD127876 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id m47so20059016iti.1 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=FaWFY99jPH5nRizzvBLasYuvvxWOvvyN9CS+3hlF0vw=; b=QBoD0uRPYpmZCYOwYyI7vDEBTQJTzRRrzkVkLBF1iXM6yDoe1PT2OH9Fsb411behSC Q8m+AXVm5FyfKsBV+j70T1nV54GIXGIp5HiKPyxQuXOL7/d2woz9rfjwzggjq39roUNi c4S291f0R4QfKWIiZ1odB0TbteUmIaB9HWTR8nQHcvuFDLAXNPGf3LIQPKjwwl9X63B5 NKGfUeVtJlASn99FLM/iM6/zo8h8AZMp1onfD49mMhXe105i4yCyJHRGdIHvqqIOA0vT 7i/u9cfFpVtcK5Sb4tN4D8m2u0N+W7uTDvWzXY9sCNTtlFuc02WWOKpj4xvnBhLA65Wf Aw0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FaWFY99jPH5nRizzvBLasYuvvxWOvvyN9CS+3hlF0vw=; b=bppiscaUiHJuMXO9BJwP70s1ObTajzDs+6v6rloVhOd8+3pv0O3/kNl5WDHnkS1Du3 fbqOSR0IPZup5bNV782PoCkSZ/LdUyD4XyGvLP7IClfB6hWSMCX+StRScAtYlXZc21Do mM5UdztKWvEZbt5LJPUr2x/8z2pJ+63fwTsbU39UsYqrsRjfv3/Y/QBn9QDeio4/EsOj +aDcU9w5ovkLSDzdHQPMZekaus0neSjUpu1aKJIoA+iHdg3puBcV+POYCzOy2Jj8rU7D lat3f82sjbpO8xLg0Jm9y9rCH0XXarDWbeSKNRNbv27tgXSb2FbmGel9YRR+QCQdVc49 byTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOwDCSyp17w/tcw+yTN9FJYQ5ezu9YZigelWzSQaPgqs+TAMOkWw vTnYX35aZWPts5R6c5cjVGXYrqqqrZolpeE= X-Received: by 10.36.48.146 with SMTP id q140mr5183095itq.59.1497986752395; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:25:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.32.15 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:25:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> References: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> From: Robert Raszuk Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:25:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Z_dgNr1gwF2m7vKS3ez2S0yR4OQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt To: Jeffrey Haas Cc: RTGWG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1140b17c41469e05526938c6" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:25:56 -0000 --001a1140b17c41469e05526938c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Jeff, Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and more expressed to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(. FWD of my msg follows: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Robert Raszuk Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" Hi Acee, SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially. There is existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines new structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin). Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for VRF as VRF as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond original L3VPN use intention. And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of recent geo coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...). Thx, R. On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > I had a chance to followup on my email of April 2 regarding the > route-target > type. I am including a paste of it from the draft below for reference. > > The type covers core RFC 4360 route-target types and this is needed. In > particular, it does a nice job in covering the common expressions of the > typed route-targets in that RFC. > > There are other extended communities that have over time picked up > semantics > of route targets. The ES-Import route target type is an example of this, > and would not be covered by the type described in the draft. > > It's my recommendation that while accommodating the well known types is > laudible, some accommodation should be made for future types. > > A final note is that RFC 5701 defines an IPv6 specific route target type. > I > don't believe this is currently implemented, but will likely be a cause to > update this module when it is. I believe is structurally problematic for > the vpn-route-targets grouping, which only includes the route-target type > as > a leaf. > > : typedef route-target { > : type string { > : pattern > : '(0:(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|' > : + '[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d):(429496729[0-5]|42949672[0-8]\d|' > : + '4294967[01]\d{2}|429496[0-6]\d{3}|42949[0-5]\d{4}|' > : + '4294[0-8]\d{5}|429[0-3]\d{6}|42[0-8]\d{7}|4[01]\d{8}|' > : + '[0-3]?\d{0,8}\d))|' > : + '(1:(((\d|[1-9]\d|1\d{2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.){3}(\d|[1-9]\d|' > : + '1\d{2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])):(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|' > : + '65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d))|' > : + '(2:(429496729[0-5]|42949672[0-8]\d|4294967[01]\d{2}|' > : + '429496[0-6]\d{3}|42949[0-5]\d{4}|4294[0-8]\d{5}|' > : + '429[0-3]\d{6}|42[0-8]\d{7}|4[01]\d{8}|[0-3]?\d{0,8}\d):' > : + '(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|' > : + '[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d))'; > : } > : description > : "A route target is an 8-octet BGP extended community > : initially identifying a set of sites in a BGP > : VPN (RFC 4364). However, it has since taken on a more > : general role in BGP route filtering. > : A route target consists of three fields: > : a 2-octet type field, an administrator field, > : and an assigned number field. > : According to the data formats for type 0, 1, and 2 defined in > : RFC4360 and RFC5668, the encoding pattern is defined as: > : > : 0:2-octet-asn:4-octet-number > : 1:4-octet-ipv4addr:2-octet-number > : 2:4-octet-asn:2-octet-number. > : > : Some valid examples are: 0:100:100, 1:1.1.1.1:100, and > : 2:1234567890:203."; > : reference > : "RFC4360: BGP Extended Communities Attribute. > : RFC5668: 4-Octet AS Specific BGP Extended Community."; > : } > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 08:27:14AM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. > > > > Title : Routing Area Common YANG Data Types > > Authors : Xufeng Liu > > Yingzhen Qu > > Acee Lindem > > Christian Hopps > > Lou Berger > > Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt > > Pages : 33 > > Date : 2017-06-13 > > > > Abstract: > > This document defines a collection of common data types using the > > YANG data modeling language. These derived common types are designed > > to be imported by other modules defined in the routing area. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rtgwg mailing list > > rtgwg@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > --001a1140b17c41469e05526938c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff,

Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT defini= tion and more expressed to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not consi= dered :(.

FWD of my ms= g follows:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Robert Raszuk=C2=A0<robert@raszuk.net&= gt;
Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types
To:= "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@= cisco.com>
Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" <rtgwg@= ietf.org>

Hi Ace= e,

SOO has similar format t= o RT however RT is defined only partially. There is existing extension to R= FC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines new structure of both RT and SO= O (Route Origin).=C2=A0

Als= o I think there important this draft needs to define type for VRF as VRF as= such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond original L3= VPN use intention.=C2=A0

An= d I think there is many more common elements ... just think of recent geo c= oordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...).=C2=A0

Thx,
R.



On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:
I had a chance to followup on= my email of April 2 regarding the route-target
type.=C2=A0 I am including a paste of it from the draft below for reference= .

The type covers core RFC 4360 route-target types and this is needed.=C2=A0 = In
particular, it does a nice job in covering the common expressions of the typed route-targets in that RFC.

There are other extended communities that have over time picked up semantic= s
of route targets.=C2=A0 The ES-Import route target type is an example of th= is,
and would not be covered by the type described in the draft.

It's my recommendation that while accommodating the well known types is=
laudible, some accommodation should be made for future types.

A final note is that RFC 5701 defines an IPv6 specific route target type.= =C2=A0 I
don't believe this is currently implemented, but will likely be a cause= to
update this module when it is.=C2=A0 I believe is structurally problematic = for
the vpn-route-targets grouping, which only includes the route-target type a= s
a leaf.

:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 typedef route-target {
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 type string {
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pattern
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 '(0:(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|65= [0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d):(429496729[0-5]|42949672[0-8]\d|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '4294967[01]\d{2}|429496[0-6]\d{3}|42949[0-5]\d{4}|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '4294[0-8]\d{5}|429[0-3]\d{6}|42[0-8]\d{7}|4[01]\d{8}|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '[0-3]?\d{0,8}\d))|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '(1:(((\d|[1-9]\d|1\d{2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])\.){3}(\d|[1-9]\d|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '1\d{2}|2[0-4]\d|25[0-5])):(= 6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d))|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '(2:(429496729[0-5]|42949672[0-8]\d|4294967[01]\d{2}|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '429496[0-6]\d{3}|42949[0-5]\d{4}|4294[0-8]\d{5}|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '429[0-3]\d{6}|42[0-8]\d{7}|4[01]\d{8}|[0-3]?\d{0,8}\d):'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '(6553[0-5]|655[0-2]\d|65[0-4]\d{2}|6[0-4]\d{3}|'
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 + '[0-5]?\d{0,3}\d))';
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 description
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "A route target is an 8-octet BGP = extended community
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0initially identifying a set of si= tes in a BGP
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0VPN (RFC 4364). However, it has s= ince taken on a more
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0general role in BGP route filteri= ng.
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0A route target consists of three = fields:
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0a 2-octet type field, an administ= rator field,
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and an assigned number field.
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0According to the data formats for= type 0, 1, and 2 defined in
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC4360 and RFC5668, the encoding= pattern is defined as:
:
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00:2-octet-asn:4-octet-number
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01:4-octet-ipv4addr:2-octet-n= umber
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02:4-octet-asn:2-octet-number.
:
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Some valid examples are: 0:100:10= 0, 1:1.= 1.1.1:100, and
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02:1234567890:203.";
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 reference
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "RFC4360: BGP Extended Communities= Attribute.
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0RFC5668: 4-Octet AS Specific BGP = Extended Community.";
:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 08:27:14AM -0700, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IET= F.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0: Routing Area Common YANG Data Types
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0: Xufeng Liu
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yingzhen Qu
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Acee Lindem
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Christian Hopps
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Lou Berger
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-= ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: 33
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 : 2017-06-13
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This document defines a collection of common data types u= sing the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 YANG data modeling language.=C2=A0 These derived common t= ypes are designed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 to be imported by other modules defined in the routing ar= ea.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
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> https://datatracker.ietf= .org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdi= ff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06
>
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--001a1140b17c41469e05526938c6-- From nobody Tue Jun 20 12:35:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4986C131616 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:35:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v2GZlaq-tTJ8 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DE513160E for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C7B951E37E; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:43:57 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Robert Raszuk Cc: RTGWG Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt Message-ID: <20170620194357.GD2289@pfrc.org> References: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:35:31 -0000 Robert, On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and more expressed > to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(. I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed this. :-) I agree the other structured formats are worth considering. A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for new structured formats while at the same time providing access to the opaquely until they have been thus defined. I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part of the WGLC on this document. Sue Hares responded earlier in the thread, so it at least has her attention. -- Jeff > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Robert Raszuk > Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM > Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types > To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" > Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" > > Hi Acee, > > SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially. There is > existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines new > structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin). > > Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for VRF as VRF > as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond original > L3VPN use intention. > > And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of recent geo > coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...). > > Thx, > R. From nobody Tue Jun 20 13:41:40 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1301294B8; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:41:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EsthyYq654J1; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AF3131633; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DFB831E37F; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:50:21 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Xufeng Liu Cc: Greg Mirsky , "draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models Message-ID: <20170620205021.GG2289@pfrc.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:41:32 -0000 Xufeng, On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:33:05PM +0000, Xufeng Liu wrote: > From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > * yes, grouping mpls-label-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why it needs id, sequence identifier. I'd expect the label stack already be properly ordered; > [Xufeng] There are two ways to achieve the ordering: 1) Explicit sequence id, 2) Implicit order of the list items. Personally I feel that the explicit way is more clear and easier to use, but have no strong objection to the implicit way. While I found the semantics of mpls-label-stack[id] to be clear, it does have the peculiar property that the ids present in the list may have gaps. E.g. 10,20,30 instead of 1,2,3. And also the ambiguity of whether people's implementations starting counting at 0 or 1. I'm not conversant with common Yang tool suites, but it seems if the ordered-by user rather than the default of system, then the tooling might present the bottom of stack entry as the first or last node of the list rather than requiring the consumer to have to run a sort of the nodes based on the id number and then select the first node. -- Jeff From nobody Tue Jun 20 14:17:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90B01294EE for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Td0vfr15HjQe for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pf0-x22e.google.com (mail-pf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 327C012EC58 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 83so75059724pfr.0 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:thread-topic:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oavRr0/oDKDWBiWRQHuq6ovLu4VajfOMCdzx5RJutvo=; b=jX6RA3xUW976VLfUBXy4AZEqLLZNFuSg2HzWL8N3dO2XNzljjznlAl/lRyaqtVDdDv 0ZI1DLnyOgDrBpz7I+q5JdS16EWXw/muvzPjy8NOH9vtW2u4gxgPn6sHA1TozHhzBa4N Xib+CTm67TjY3jhVISGEufORAx2WYjZhBxhP7POax1TNOJ7YtuM7OXy0r+P8M8af+wQ7 iokcYY78+EBKp81BMDPvic9mKedEukCXbJSwO2TIuhtl8UxzrSlauxtacHOlNK2dMMg8 ULAkG7bobrnPJVGg3sDU4lIIuJVz36S4uooZKS2g8d83PlU3DnRRxRTZ1Xd2z41op0/e zr1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id :thread-topic:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oavRr0/oDKDWBiWRQHuq6ovLu4VajfOMCdzx5RJutvo=; b=FY5pael/VRF5gYYaELHJN91yyiiEMThFasCR2LHRzezbNvnDXn2gR/N8gdQ2a29nDN pd3OyYjzuH0ZrEQhD4OcjhVGSz4iUhsM9dXGcRs9/JXCV+OPmrm8GIkDcAVE1gehIkWG 1WxBo3Cey6NVnIy6B4RwhPrHWy4mCp/ZccPE+aikzsKXLw0iXICg7AD6EyQH2xcXtu5Q 4PrX/DAAf13Ivac2lDYiuvCWjxteZutALaZWjMwbQRce82JoSs3b6xTWiX3WQHMvwS+U eow/GT6zWJhXibsrAls7GMs4afFkUEKZQbXQHHLUGbwiz56K1v6vizEWY7VCI8TVGoRj AmAA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOydJoK4x1YhzOEKq/Y1AIjv8t0fCbDWg2Et55wOKIWNyplH1BNd +4JQv+4Xud2hoKBr X-Received: by 10.101.87.206 with SMTP id q14mr33023652pgr.153.1497993431465; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 14:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.254.157] (107-1-141-74-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. 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The more volunteers, the better chance we have= of choosing a random yet representative cross section of the IETF populatio= n. =20 The details of the operation of the NomCom can be found in RFC 7437 (BC= P 10), and RFC 3797 details the selection algorithm. =20 Volunteers must have attended 3 of the past 5 IETF meetings. As specif= ied in RFC 7437, that means three out of the five past meetings up to the ti= me this email announcement goes out to start the solicitation of volunteers.= The five meetings out of which you must have attended *three* are: =20 IETF =3D 94 (Yokohama) \ 95 (Buenos Aires) \ 96 (Berlin) -*** ANY THREE! 97 (Seoul) / 98 (Chicago) / =20 You can check your eligibility at: https://www.ietf.org/registration/no= mcom.py =20 If you qualify, please volunteer. 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If you don't receive this response, p= lease re-send your email with the tag "RESEND"" added to the subject line. =20 If you are not yet sure if you would like to volunteer, please consider= that NomCom members play a very important role in shaping the leadership of= the IETF. Questions by email or voice are welcome. Volunteering for the No= mCom is a great way to contribute to the IETF! =20 You can find a detailed timeline on the NomCom web site at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/ =20 I will be publishing a more detailed target timetable, as well as detai= ls of the randomness seeds to be used for the RFC 3797 selection process, wi= thin short order. =20 Thank you! =20 Peter Yee peter at akayla dot com nomcom-chair-2017 at ietf dot org =20 =20 From nobody Wed Jun 21 08:23:29 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD7A12EAA9; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:23:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-05.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149805860040.15843.18136174010074596360@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:23:20 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:23:20 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Micro-loop prevention by introducing a local convergence delay Authors : Stephane Litkowski Bruno Decraene Clarence Filsfils Pierre Francois Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-05.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2017-06-21 Abstract: This document describes a mechanism for link-state routing protocols to prevent local transient forwarding loops in case of link failure. This mechanism proposes a two-steps convergence by introducing a delay between the convergence of the node adjacent to the topology change and the network wide convergence. As this mechanism delays the IGP convergence it may only be used for planned maintenance or when fast reroute protects the traffic between the link failure time and the IGP convergence. The proposed mechanism will be limited to the link down event in order to keep simplicity. Simulations using real network topologies have been performed and show that local loops are a significant portion (>50%) of the total forwarding loops. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Regards, Pierre. > On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Chris Bowers wrote: >=20 > =20 > =20 > _____________________________________________ > From: Chris Bowers=20 > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:26 PM > To: 'RTGWG' > Cc: 'draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay@ietf.org' > Subject: RE: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > =20 > =20 > RTGWG, > =20 > The consensus appears to be for the WG to request publication of this draf= t as a standards track document. > =20 > We still need IPR responses from two of the authors before we can proceed.= > =20 > Thanks, > Chris and Jeff > =20 > _____________________________________________ > From: Chris Bowers=20 > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 3:43 PM > To: RTGWG > Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > =20 > =20 > RTGWG, > =20 > This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-del= ay. > =20 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ > =20 > Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this > standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or > opposition. > =20 > IPR: > If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to > this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. 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Hello Chris,

I am not aware of IPR related to this document.

Regards,

Pierre.


On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Chris Bowers <cbowers@juniper.net> wrote:

 
 
_____________________________________________
From: Chris Bowers
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:26 PM
To: 'RTGWG' <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Cc: 'draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay@ietf.org' <draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay
 
 
RTGWG,
 
The consensus appears to be for the WG to request publication of this draft as a standards track document.
 
We still need IPR responses from two of the authors before we can proceed.
 
Thanks,
Chris and Jeff
 
_____________________________________________
From: Chris Bowers
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 3:43 PM
To: RTGWG <rtgwg@ietf.org>
Subject: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay
 
 
RTGWG,
 
This email starts the two week WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay.
 
 
Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this
standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or
opposition.
 
IPR:
If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to
this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The
response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will
not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from
each author and each individual that has contributed to the document.
 
The document currently has the following IPR disclosure associated
with it.
 
This last call will end on Friday June 16th.
 
Thanks,
Chris and Jeff
 
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RTGWG, Based on the preliminary agenda, RTGWG will be meeting in Prague on Monday morning for a 2.5 hour session and on Friday morning for a 2.0 hour session. MONDAY, July 17, 2017 0930-1200 Morning Session I Congress Hall II RTG rtgwg Routing Area Working Group = WG FRIDAY, July 21, 2017 0930-1130 Morning Session I Congress Hall III RTG rtgwg Routing Area Working Group = WG If you would like to request a time slot on the agenda, please send email t= o Jeff and me at rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org. So far we have the following items on the agenda: We haven't yet decided which items will go in which session. draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa and draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segmen= t-routing-uloop Ahmed Bashandy 15 minutes requested draft-przygienda-rift Tony Przygienda 15 minutes requested Thanks, Chris and Jeff --_000_MWHPR05MB2829D8466ABB3A8A437495C1A9DA0MWHPR05MB2829namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
RTGWG,
 
Based on the preliminary agenda, RTGWG will be meeting in Prague
on Monday morning for a 2.5 hour session and
on Friday morning for a 2.0 hour session. 
 
MONDAY, July 17, 2017
0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress Hall II         RTG&n= bsp;     rtgwg       = ;     Routing Area Working Group WG
 
FRIDAY, July 21, 2017
0930-1130  Morning Session I
Congress Hall III        RTG &= nbsp;    rtgwg       &nbs= p;    Routing Area Working Group WG
 
If you would like to request a time slot on the agenda, please send em= ail to 
Jeff and me at rtgwg-chairs@ietf.org.
 
So far we have the following items on the agenda:
We haven’t yet decided which items will go in which session.
 
draft-bashandy-rtgwg-segment-routing-ti-lfa and draft-bashandy-rtgwg-s= egment-routing-uloop
Ahmed Bashandy        15 minutes re= quested
 
draft-przygienda-rift
Tony Przygienda          = 15 minutes requested
 
Thanks,
Chris and Jeff
 
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Wed, 21 Jun 2017 14:06:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.32.15 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 14:06:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> <20170620194357.GD2289@pfrc.org> From: Robert Raszuk Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:06:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lguzTghJ0W_Bnlu7zUi32n3JuM4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Jeffrey Haas , RTGWG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c05c0462c5c6905527ebdee" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:06:20 -0000 --94eb2c05c0462c5c6905527ebdee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Acee, Progressing it quickly and incomplete will result in each independent routing model coming with their own likely creating pretty massive conflicts and confusion. So IMHO we should really make sure all necessary and common between different protocols elements are defined here even if as result it would get delayed few more weeks. Cheers, R, On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > Hi Jeff, Robert, > > We weren=E2=80=99t sure that SOO would be used beyond the BGP model. I ca= n add > typedef site-of-origin with format <4-octet-asn:2-octet-number>. > > As far as RFC 5701 is concerned, we could add types ipv6-route-target and > ipv6-site-of-origin with format . > > Note that the intent is to progress this quickly so that usage doesn=E2= =80=99t > block other models. It is not to get every present and future common > routing type that might be useful prior to progression. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > On 6/20/17, 3:43 PM, "rtgwg on behalf of Jeffrey Haas" > wrote: > > >Robert, > > > >On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: > >> Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and more > >>expressed > >> to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(. > > > >I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed this. :-= ) > > > >I agree the other structured formats are worth considering. > > > >A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for ne= w > >structured formats while at the same time providing access to the opaque= ly > >until they have been thus defined. > > > >I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part o= f > >the WGLC on this document. Sue Hares responded earlier in the thread, s= o > >it > >at least has her attention. > > > >-- Jeff > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Robert Raszuk > >> Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM > >> Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types > >> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" > >> Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" > >> > >> Hi Acee, > >> > >> SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially. > >>There is > >> existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines new > >> structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin). > >> > >> Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for VRF a= s > >>VRF > >> as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond > >>original > >> L3VPN use intention. > >> > >> And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of recen= t > >>geo > >> coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...). > >> > >> Thx, > >> R. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >rtgwg mailing list > >rtgwg@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > > --94eb2c05c0462c5c6905527ebdee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,

Progressing it quickly and incomplete will result in= each independent routing model coming with their own likely creating prett= y massive conflicts and confusion.=C2=A0

=
So IMHO we should really make sure all necessary and com= mon between different protocols elements are defined here even if as result= it would get delayed few more weeks.=C2=A0

Cheers,
R,
<= br>
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Acee Lindem= (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff, Robert,

We weren=E2=80=99t sure that SOO would be used beyond the BGP model. I can = add
typedef site-of-origin with format <4-octet-asn:2-octet-number>.

As far as RFC 5701 is concerned, we could add types ipv6-route-target and ipv6-site-of-origin with format <ipv6-address:2-octet-number>.

Note that the intent is to progress this quickly so that usage doesn=E2=80= =99t
block other models. It is not to get every present and future common
routing type that might be useful prior to progression.

Thanks,
Acee


On 6/20/17, 3:43 PM, "rtgwg on behalf of Jeffrey Haas"
<rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:

>Robert,
>
>On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>> Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and mo= re
>>expressed
>> to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(.
>
>I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed thi= s. :-)
>
>I agree the other structured formats are worth considering.
>
>A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for n= ew
>structured formats while at the same time providing access to the opaqu= ely
>until they have been thus defined.
>
>I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part = of
>the WGLC on this document.=C2=A0 Sue Hares responded earlier in the thr= ead, so
>it
>at least has her attention.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Robert Raszuk <rober= t@raszuk.net>
>> Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types
>> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
>> Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org&quo= t; <rtgwg@ietf.org>
>>
>> Hi Acee,
>>
>> SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially.=
>>There is
>> existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines= new
>> structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin).
>>
>> Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for V= RF as
>>VRF
>> as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond<= br> >>original
>> L3VPN use intention.
>>
>> And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of r= ecent
>>geo
>> coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...).
>>
>> Thx,
>> R.
>
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draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Jeffrey Haas , RTGWG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1140b17cf4b6a705527ee7b3" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:18:17 -0000 --001a1140b17cf4b6a705527ee7b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In addition to already discussed typedefs how about unified GPS coordinates which is common across number of working groups for starter ? Have Routing Design Team considered it ? Best, RR. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > Hi Robert, > > Feel free to suggest validated common YANG typedefs for consideration by > the Routing Design Team=E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99m not worried about adding ne= eded types for a > few more weeks. It is the few more quarters that I=E2=80=99m worried abou= t. This is > also consistent with the direction we are receiving from the ADs. > Thanks, > Acee > > From: on behalf of Robert Raszuk > Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5:06 PM > To: Acee Lindem > Cc: Jeff Haas , Routing WG > Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt > > Hi Acee, > > Progressing it quickly and incomplete will result in each independent > routing model coming with their own likely creating pretty massive > conflicts and confusion. > > So IMHO we should really make sure all necessary and common between > different protocols elements are defined here even if as result it would > get delayed few more weeks. > > Cheers, > R, > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > >> Hi Jeff, Robert, >> >> We weren=E2=80=99t sure that SOO would be used beyond the BGP model. I c= an add >> typedef site-of-origin with format <4-octet-asn:2-octet-number>. >> >> As far as RFC 5701 is concerned, we could add types ipv6-route-target an= d >> ipv6-site-of-origin with format . >> >> Note that the intent is to progress this quickly so that usage doesn=E2= =80=99t >> block other models. It is not to get every present and future common >> routing type that might be useful prior to progression. >> >> Thanks, >> Acee >> >> >> On 6/20/17, 3:43 PM, "rtgwg on behalf of Jeffrey Haas" >> wrote: >> >> >Robert, >> > >> >On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: >> >> Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and more >> >>expressed >> >> to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(. >> > >> >I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed this. := -) >> > >> >I agree the other structured formats are worth considering. >> > >> >A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for n= ew >> >structured formats while at the same time providing access to the >> opaquely >> >until they have been thus defined. >> > >> >I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part = of >> >the WGLC on this document. Sue Hares responded earlier in the thread, = so >> >it >> >at least has her attention. >> > >> >-- Jeff >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Robert Raszuk >> >> Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types >> >> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" >> >> Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" >> >> >> >> Hi Acee, >> >> >> >> SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially. >> >>There is >> >> existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines ne= w >> >> structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin). >> >> >> >> Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for VRF = as >> >>VRF >> >> as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond >> >>original >> >> L3VPN use intention. >> >> >> >> And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of rece= nt >> >>geo >> >> coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...). >> >> >> >> Thx, >> >> R. >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >rtgwg mailing list >> >rtgwg@ietf.org >> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg >> >> > --001a1140b17cf4b6a705527ee7b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In additio= n to already discussed typedefs how about unified GPS coordinates which is = common across number of working groups for starter ?=C2=A0

Have Routing Design Team considered i= t ?=C2=A0

Best,
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">RR.


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:15 = PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Robert,

Feel free to suggest validated common YANG typedefs for consideration = by the Routing Design Team=E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99m not worried about adding n= eeded types for a few more weeks. It is the few more quarters that I=E2=80= =99m worried about. This is also consistent with the direction we are receiving from the ADs.=C2=A0
Thanks,
Acee=C2=A0

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert= Raszuk <robert@r= aszuk.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5= :06 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: Jeff Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, Routing WG <<= a href=3D"mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf= -rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt

Hi Acee,

Progressing it quickly and incomplete will result in each independent routi= ng model coming with their own likely creating pretty massive conflicts and= confusion.=C2=A0

So IMHO we should really make sure all necessary and common between differe= nt protocols elements are defined here even if as result it would get delay= ed few more weeks.=C2=A0

Cheers,
R,

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Acee Lindem (a= cee) <acee@cisco.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi Jeff, Robert,

We weren=E2=80=99t sure that SOO would be used beyond the BGP model. I can = add
typedef site-of-origin with format <4-octet-asn:2-octet-number>.

As far as RFC 5701 is concerned, we could add types ipv6-route-target and ipv6-site-of-origin with format <ipv6-address:2-octet-number>.

Note that the intent is to progress this quickly so that usage doesn=E2=80= =99t
block other models. It is not to get every present and future common
routing type that might be useful prior to progression.

Thanks,
Acee


On 6/20/17, 3:43 PM, "rtgwg on behalf of Jeffrey Haas"
<rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:

>Robert,
>
>On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>> Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and mo= re
>>expressed
>> to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(.
>
>I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed thi= s. :-)
>
>I agree the other structured formats are worth considering.
>
>A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for n= ew
>structured formats while at the same time providing access to the opaqu= ely
>until they have been thus defined.
>
>I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part = of
>the WGLC on this document.=C2=A0 Sue Hares responded earlier in the thr= ead, so
>it
>at least has her attention.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
>> Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types
>> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
>> Cc: "rtgw= g@ietf.org" <rtgwg@ietf.org>
>>
>> Hi Acee,
>>
>> SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially.=
>>There is
>> existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines= new
>> structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin).
>>
>> Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for V= RF as
>>VRF
>> as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond<= br> >>original
>> L3VPN use intention.
>>
>> And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of r= ecent
>>geo
>> coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...).
>>
>> Thx,
>> R.
>
>_______________________________________________
>rtgwg mailing list
>rtgwg@ietf.org<= br> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg<= br>


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draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Jeffrey Haas , RTGWG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c188832eebbc605527f8389" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:01:55 -0000 --94eb2c188832eebbc605527f8389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also isn't MD5 / TCP-AO or security certificates common across multiple routing components ? You have IPX address family and you do not have RIP one which was way more common over PE-CE then IPX :) ? I see bunch of labels but quite useful context label as defined in RFC5331 is not really there. And frankly I think we could just go on and on providing missing examples from various common to routing areas. Thanks, R. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > I=E2=80=99m a co-author on some of these geo-location drafts but they are= not yet > WG documents. However, we did get a lot of people involved in the > definitions and feel they are stable. I would not be opposed to adding th= em > at the risk they could change after publication. > > Thanks, > Acee > > From: on behalf of Robert Raszuk > Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5:18 PM > > To: Acee Lindem > Cc: Jeff Haas , Routing WG > Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt > > > In addition to already discussed typedefs how about unified GPS > coordinates which is common across number of working groups for starter ? > > Have Routing Design Team considered it ? > > Best, > RR. > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > >> Hi Robert, >> >> Feel free to suggest validated common YANG typedefs for consideration by >> the Routing Design Team=E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99m not worried about adding n= eeded types for a >> few more weeks. It is the few more quarters that I=E2=80=99m worried abo= ut. This is >> also consistent with the direction we are receiving from the ADs. >> Thanks, >> Acee >> >> From: on behalf of Robert Raszuk >> Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5:06 PM >> To: Acee Lindem >> Cc: Jeff Haas , Routing WG >> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt >> >> Hi Acee, >> >> Progressing it quickly and incomplete will result in each independent >> routing model coming with their own likely creating pretty massive >> conflicts and confusion. >> >> So IMHO we should really make sure all necessary and common between >> different protocols elements are defined here even if as result it would >> get delayed few more weeks. >> >> Cheers, >> R, >> >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Jeff, Robert, >>> >>> We weren=E2=80=99t sure that SOO would be used beyond the BGP model. I = can add >>> typedef site-of-origin with format <4-octet-asn:2-octet-number>. >>> >>> As far as RFC 5701 is concerned, we could add types ipv6-route-target a= nd >>> ipv6-site-of-origin with format . >>> >>> Note that the intent is to progress this quickly so that usage doesn=E2= =80=99t >>> block other models. It is not to get every present and future common >>> routing type that might be useful prior to progression. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Acee >>> >>> >>> On 6/20/17, 3:43 PM, "rtgwg on behalf of Jeffrey Haas" >>> wrote: >>> >>> >Robert, >>> > >>> >On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote: >>> >> Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and more >>> >>expressed >>> >> to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(. >>> > >>> >I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed this. >>> :-) >>> > >>> >I agree the other structured formats are worth considering. >>> > >>> >A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for >>> new >>> >structured formats while at the same time providing access to the >>> opaquely >>> >until they have been thus defined. >>> > >>> >I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part >>> of >>> >the WGLC on this document. Sue Hares responded earlier in the thread, >>> so >>> >it >>> >at least has her attention. >>> > >>> >-- Jeff >>> > >>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> >> From: Robert Raszuk >>> >> Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types >>> >> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" >>> >> Cc: "rtgwg@ietf.org" >>> >> >>> >> Hi Acee, >>> >> >>> >> SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially. >>> >>There is >>> >> existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines n= ew >>> >> structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin). >>> >> >>> >> Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for VRF >>> as >>> >>VRF >>> >> as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond >>> >>original >>> >> L3VPN use intention. >>> >> >>> >> And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of >>> recent >>> >>geo >>> >> coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...). >>> >> >>> >> Thx, >>> >> R. >>> > >>> >_______________________________________________ >>> >rtgwg mailing list >>> >rtgwg@ietf.org >>> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg >>> >>> >> > --94eb2c188832eebbc605527f8389 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Also isn&#= 39;t MD5 / TCP-AO or security certificates common across multiple routing c= omponents ?=C2=A0

You = have IPX address family and you do not have RIP one which was way more comm= on over PE-CE then IPX :) ?

I see bunch of labels but quite useful context label as defined in RF= C5331 is not really there.=C2=A0

And frankly I think we could just go on and on providing missing= examples from various common to routing areas.=C2=A0

Thanks,
R.


<= br>

On= Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
I=E2=80=99m a co-author on some of these geo-location drafts but they = are not yet WG documents. However, we did get a lot of people involved in t= he definitions and feel they are stable. I would not be opposed to adding t= hem at the risk they could change after publication.=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee=C2=A0

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert= Raszuk <robert@r= aszuk.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 20= 17 at 5:18 PM

To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: Jeff Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, Routing WG <<= a href=3D"mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf= -rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt


In addition to already discussed typedefs how about unified GPS coordinates= which is common across number of working groups for starter ?=C2=A0

Have Routing Design Team considered it ?=C2=A0

Best,
RR.


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Acee Lindem (a= cee) <acee@cisco.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi Robert,

Feel free to suggest validated common YANG typedefs for consideration = by the Routing Design Team=E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99m not worried about adding n= eeded types for a few more weeks. It is the few more quarters that I=E2=80= =99m worried about. This is also consistent with the direction we are receiving from the ADs.=C2=A0
Thanks,
Acee=C2=A0

From: <rraszuk@gmail.com> on behalf of Robert= Raszuk <robert@r= aszuk.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 5= :06 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: Jeff Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>, Routing WG <<= a href=3D"mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">rtgwg@ietf.org> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf= -rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt

Hi Acee,

Progressing it quickly and incomplete will result in each independent routi= ng model coming with their own likely creating pretty massive conflicts and= confusion.=C2=A0

So IMHO we should really make sure all necessary and common between differe= nt protocols elements are defined here even if as result it would get delay= ed few more weeks.=C2=A0

Cheers,
R,

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Acee Lindem (a= cee) <acee@cisco.com&= gt; wrote:
Hi Jeff, Robert,

We weren=E2=80=99t sure that SOO would be used beyond the BGP model. I can = add
typedef site-of-origin with format <4-octet-asn:2-octet-number>.

As far as RFC 5701 is concerned, we could add types ipv6-route-target and ipv6-site-of-origin with format <ipv6-address:2-octet-number>.

Note that the intent is to progress this quickly so that usage doesn=E2=80= =99t
block other models. It is not to get every present and future common
routing type that might be useful prior to progression.

Thanks,
Acee


On 6/20/17, 3:43 PM, "rtgwg on behalf of Jeffrey Haas"
<rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org= on behalf of jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:

>Robert,
>
>On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>> Let's note that I had similar concerns on RT definition and mo= re
>>expressed
>> to the list in Nov 2016 however they were not considered :(.
>
>I'm in my typical far behind on list mode, so I may have missed thi= s. :-)
>
>I agree the other structured formats are worth considering.
>
>A challenge the authors of the draft have is canonical formatting for n= ew
>structured formats while at the same time providing access to the opaqu= ely
>until they have been thus defined.
>
>I would urge the chairs to request attention from IDR and BESS as part = of
>the WGLC on this document.=C2=A0 Sue Hares responded earlier in the thr= ead, so
>it
>at least has her attention.
>
>-- Jeff
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
>> Date: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: Draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-routing-types
>> To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
>> Cc: "rtgw= g@ietf.org" <rtgwg@ietf.org>
>>
>> Hi Acee,
>>
>> SOO has similar format to RT however RT is defined only partially.=
>>There is
>> existing extension to RFC4360 in the form of RFC5668 which defines= new
>> structure of both RT and SOO (Route Origin).
>>
>> Also I think there important this draft needs to define type for V= RF as
>>VRF
>> as such is used across a lot of different applications way beyond<= br> >>original
>> L3VPN use intention.
>>
>> And I think there is many more common elements ... just think of r= ecent
>>geo
>> coordinates shred by 4 WGs (if not more ...).
>>
>> Thx,
>> R.
>
>___________= ____________________________________
>rtgwg mailing list
>rtgwg@ietf.org<= br> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg<= br>



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2017 18:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6244120721 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95D8A1E34A; Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 21:12:36 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Robert Raszuk , RTGWG Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt Message-ID: <20170622011236.GK2289@pfrc.org> References: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> <20170620194357.GD2289@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: 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I’m not worried about adding needed types for a few more weeks. It is the few more quarters that I’m worried about. This is also consistent with the direction we are receiving from the ADs. Are you saying that for the issues that have been raised about the route-target type (existing) that no action will happen without getting supplied a diff? -- Jeff From nobody Thu Jun 22 01:26:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAB91273E2 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:26:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.199, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2s4l_5X3_JlF for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x22e.google.com (mail-it0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99EB11242F7 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id m62so46491376itc.0 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:26:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=tJhcMALSAOAqfMXPIqAUdKOnr+MdrIIYrvF/h+w0em8=; b=Kx5q0g6lRfx/xle+m1bCu6v2MVTJjY/7LKJb5GP4G8arnXjfXjDTFZokht6gY2SwMM ZEwTTxs9k3HJ/BY8Rp/PrLU14W29PyYF5jIb32ujQtzArIr945Ud7UUy2VypWeainsI9 Y/FjXkoDcLvHa89vFO61sSPN3vjarH8nNdUwXng5OlymZahL3Br/KhgYAuHSTqARSRW5 bcSCxuQAni38QDYAkzTXZK17kE4FaJdYq2RzzWf9vd9qD4O04ne+Pe2kebdrivcitSAc XWPVyIT1IcbQ9z4Apgc6dDitpXDA7wEVf9qIpytTwi5EiM99+6faHOto5wdpguaXoyRq 64Gg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tJhcMALSAOAqfMXPIqAUdKOnr+MdrIIYrvF/h+w0em8=; b=cYuymc+9fCS2i3wnEbabFsYkrELbXTNBKVINy8ytey6L+FaSDWuF+SPwOWo5l9d53F I9MGyXp8uCzF3ZWRy0WfkKuRDtSc52tME78qR+igfU/19Mw/dJKJ+xGBrfBOiWIwFzuk AmRMbf3fB/ikaedK6dBpjhJu8rxQ+owVhZRlcRHls08rvVy15I1FKt17FG9MQbwnrdXD vV3y8n1eIXpsLU7H+leHJ3Eh/8d9iqpWnQIK0EHcB603aV4FS94mdqxSAesgGUbTzmxD 2bAGqQZzSKPhpO4k0Z9P3HhlD7LLfBoHXg+pKLdrSzqbMj3u3FD9j0ut7AUwr1vsCWfS qG3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOxajQxdn1XbdSKsw8d3zescSmB/EZAQtL1zpejOvPZ1/4Oz96TB rNW/WAvzEjmYCF+GPlsSgg4jvU2/2g== X-Received: by 10.36.29.6 with SMTP id 6mr839738itj.59.1498119990933; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:26:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rraszuk@gmail.com Received: by 10.79.32.15 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:26:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <149736763440.7477.10138004135435824433@ietfa.amsl.com> <20170620192616.GB2289@pfrc.org> <20170620194357.GD2289@pfrc.org> From: Robert Raszuk Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 10:26:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4wqNALPuV6Qjsc5riyrexLrapjw Message-ID: Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-06.txt To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Jeffrey Haas , RTGWG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1143e132e3fefe0552883d61" Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:26:33 -0000 --001a1143e132e3fefe0552883d61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Acee, Also isn't MD5 / TCP-AO or security certificates common across multiple > routing components ? > > Videre RFC 8177=E2=80=A6 > =E2=80=8BI was under assumption that this work aims at providing a comprehe= nsive =E2=80=8Breference to common (used across protocols) elements either by def= ining them directly or providing references if they were already defined elsewhere. Apparently the latter part is missing from this document. You have IPX address family and you do not have RIP one which was way more > common over PE-CE then IPX :) ? > > RIP is not an address family, RIPv2 advertises AFs IPv4 and IPv6 (at leas= t > that is all I=E2=80=99ve ever implemented)=E2=80=A6. > =E2=80=8BOh please ... It seemed obvious especially in this context. It is = like mocking from someone who said "BGP" in the context of multi-protocol extensions rather then spelling BGPv4 each time. Thx, R.=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B --001a1143e132e3fefe0552883d61 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Acee,

Also isn't MD5 / TCP-AO or security ce= rtificates common across multiple routing components ?=C2=A0
Videre RFC 8177=E2=80=A6=C2=A0


=E2=80=8BI was under assumption = that this work aims at providing a comprehensive =E2=80=8Breference to comm= on (used across protocols) elements either by defining them directly or pro= viding references if they were already defined elsewhere.=C2=A0

Apparently the latter part is mis= sing from this document.=C2=A0

You h= ave IPX address family and you do not have RIP one which was way more commo= n over PE-CE then IPX :) ?
RIP is not an address family, RIPv2 advertises AFs IPv4 and IPv6 (at l= east that is all I=E2=80=99ve ever implemented)=E2=80=A6.=C2=A0


=E2=80=8BOh please ... It seemed obvious especially in this context. It = is like mocking from someone who said "BGP" in the context of mul= ti-protocol extensions rather then spelling BGPv4 each time.=C2=A0

Thx,
R.=E2=80=8B

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jabil.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 22 Jun 2017 15:44:29.0058 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bc876b21-f134-4c12-a265-8ed26b7f0f3b X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN3PR0201MB0868 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:44:35 -0000 Hi Jeff, > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Haas [mailto:jhaas@pfrc.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:50 PM > To: Xufeng Liu > Cc: Greg Mirsky ; draft-ietf-mpls-static-yang@ietf= .org; > mpls@ietf.org; draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types@ietf.org; rtgwg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: MPLS label and LSE data models >=20 > Xufeng, >=20 > On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 07:33:05PM +0000, Xufeng Liu wrote: > > From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > > * yes, grouping mpls-label-stack covers LSE though I cannot see why= it needs > id, sequence identifier. I'd expect the label stack already be properly o= rdered; > > [Xufeng] There are two ways to achieve the ordering: 1) Explicit sequen= ce id, 2) > Implicit order of the list items. Personally I feel that the explicit way= is more > clear and easier to use, but have no strong objection to the implicit way= . >=20 > While I found the semantics of mpls-label-stack[id] to be clear, it does = have the > peculiar property that the ids present in the list may have gaps. E.g. 1= 0,20,30 > instead of 1,2,3. And also the ambiguity of whether people's implementat= ions > starting counting at 0 or 1. [Xufeng] I understand the peculiarity of the ID gaps, but I don't have a go= od way to eliminate it. It seems that YANG does not have a simple mechanism= to specify an ordered list items allowing duplicated items, so we'd need t= o use the ID, but we cannot restrict the ID values to be consecutive easily= . However, the implantation and the operator can ignore the gaps, and use t= he ID values only for the ordering purpose. Therefore, it would not matter = whether the implementation starts counting at 0 or 1, or any other number. >=20 > I'm not conversant with common Yang tool suites, but it seems if the orde= red-by > user rather than the default of system, then the tooling might present th= e > bottom of stack entry as the first or last node of the list rather than r= equiring the > consumer to have to run a sort of the nodes based on the id number and th= en > select the first node. [Xufeng] Are you suggesting to use the position to order instead of the ID = value? If so, what would be the semantics of the ID value? If we cannot get= rid of the ID key, I don't know if using a separate ordering mechanism wil= l make the usability better. Thanks, Xufeng >=20 > -- Jeff From nobody Fri Jun 23 15:39:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529DF129ADA for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:39:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sxmpOXrUIxNC for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98DEF1294B3 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw2 (unknown [10.0.90.83]) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299A2215C0E for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id cNfF1v00Y2SSUrH01NfJin; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:19 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Z7GcJDZA c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=LWSFodeU3zMA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=FwkoBRBNo0s9R_TkGFsA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=v62gNglcqY7zCyFzEkWV4GxuLpa8S+Ix9wzQp3ztbuU=; b=ac5JymX6VM4bnUc5oAsYMNRSmh Td657ZIUSXfWv1EYaqHwJKh+vYd3UE69zHxznk1u5LwRrtVx7sSqcEfoAqptJP1KgL5f3CgSHribo eMdIc7Zeq7R43XjGnJO/ZF23B; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:49026 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dOXER-0004Dw-6o; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:39:15 -0600 Subject: Re: Review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-lne-model-02 To: Ravi Singh , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-ietf-rtgwg-lne-model@ietf.org" , "rtgwg@ietf.org" References: From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <58538839-b2f5-975d-06cd-fb98f7f16ec6@labn.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:39:12 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1dOXER-0004Dw-6o X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.84.20]:49026 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 7 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:39:25 -0000 Thanks for the comments, these should be resolved in the next rev. Lou On 5/8/2017 2:11 AM, Ravi Singh wrote: > > Hi > > I had been designated as the RTG-DIR reviewer for this draft. > > Ive reviewed the same. > > > > This draft does a decent job of defining the logical-network-element > module. > > > > Some minor comments that should be addressed: > > a. Section 1.1: refers to expired drafts. > > b. Some TBDs need to be populated: > > i. Security > considerations section > > ii. An error-code in > section 6 > > > > Regards > > Ravi > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg From nobody Fri Jun 23 17:08:23 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DCE129B43; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:06:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: akatlas@gmail.com, rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: rtgwg - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 99 X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149826281933.7840.7822714827149221921.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:06:59 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:06:59 -0000 Dear Jeff Tantsura, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. rtgwg Session 1 (2:30:00) Monday, Morning Session I 0930-1200 Room Name: Congress Hall II size: 350 --------------------------------------------- rtgwg Session 2 (2:00:00) Friday, Morning Session I 0930-1130 Room Name: Congress Hall III size: 250 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Routing Area Working Group Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Jeff Tantsura Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours, 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 200 Conflicts to Avoid: People who must be present: Alia Atlas Jeff Tantsura Chris Bowers Resources Requested: Special Requests: RTGWG has a rather wide charter, we would like to avoid conflict with any other RTG WG/BoF. First meeting is mostly dedicated to YANG and conflicts with netconf, netmod and lime should be avoided. --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Jun 26 06:37:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85506129B72 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IqGYVA5-S52q for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 06:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBC24129B98 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 06:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw4 (unknown [10.0.90.85]) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B201E13CA for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 07:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id dRZK1v0192SSUrH01RZNxu; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 07:33:23 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QdwWhoTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=LWSFodeU3zMA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=qHsDxRAUQWCsUaGwS4UA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5BIiXSD15V6gT79mSRj5yoCqex5X+D+utw223AU3Y1I=; b=NW/BJsFp8SR2/DVq6mIjuIlXnZ 47bv+DJmIkGqZbIoT/AAfuWPw7Cm0Q1tMO4KYDWqJfH8DMrU1aQvB0WEvnXJmK1Kfi4+fAmGCWsVi G/u2k8LEW9WyQaANitAw1Fj4v; Received: from pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.84.20]:50700 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1dPU8l-00037q-MS; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 07:33:19 -0600 Subject: Re: YANG doctor review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model-02 To: Martin Bjorklund , rtgwg@ietf.org Cc: yang-doctors@ietf.org References: <20170423.114838.190354600276418424.mbj@tail-f.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 09:33:16 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170423.114838.190354600276418424.mbj@tail-f.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.84.20 X-Exim-ID: 1dPU8l-00037q-MS X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-84-20.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.84.20]:50700 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 13 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 13:37:30 -0000 Martin, sorry about the slow response, but as you know we've been waiting to update this document until schema-mount was updated/finalized. On 4/23/2017 5:48 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > I am the assigned YANG doctor for draft-ietf-rtgwg-ni-model, and > here are my review comments, based on -02: > > > > 1) Add reference to import statements. > > import ietf-interfaces { > prefix if; > reference > "RFC 7223: A YANG Data Model for Interface Management"; > } okay. > > 2) IETF boilerplate > > Use IETF boilerplate with contact, description w/ copyright etc. will do. > > 3) feature bind-network-instance-name > > feature bind-network-instance-name { > description > "Network Instance to which an interface instance is bound"; > } > > This description doesn't make much sense. > > Also, this feature is not used in the model. Should the feature be > removed or used? this is vestigial and can be deleted > > 4) unused groupings > > The module defines 3 groupings that are not used: > > interface-ip-common > ipv4-interface-protocols > ipv6-interface-protocols > > Either they should be removed, or the text needs to explain how they > are supposed to be used by other modules. > same issue. > 5) network-instances > > The module has this: > > container network-instances { > description "Network instances each of which have > an independent IP/IPv6 addressing space > and protocol instantiations. For layer 3, > this consistent with the routing-instance > definition in ietf-routing"; > > There is no "routing-instance" in "ietf-routing". This description > needs to be updated. agreed. > > 6) leaf type > > leaf type { > type identityref { > base network-instance-type; > } > description > "The network instance type -- details TBD > Likely types include core, L3-VRF, VPLS, > L2-cross-connect, L2-VSI, etc."; > } > > "details TBD" - needs to be fixed. > > Should this leaf be mandatory? yes > If not, it needs to be specified > what it means if this leaf is not present. > > > 7) container network-instance-policy > > container network-instance-policy { > description > "Network Instance Policy -- details TBD, > perhaps based on BESS model"; > } > > "details TBD" - needs to be fixed. agreed. Hope to have this done in the rev we're working now. > 8) augments > > augment "/if:interfaces/if:interface" { > description > "Add a node for the identification of the logical network > instance (which is within the interface's identified logical > network element) associated with the IP information > configured on an interface"; > > > Does this mean that this model cannot be used without the LNE model? how about: "Add a node for the identification of the network instance (which is within the interface's identified physical or virtual device) associated with the information configured on an interface"; > > augment "/if:interfaces/if:interface/ip:ipv4" { > description > "Add a node for the identification of the logical > network instance (which is within the interface's > identified physical or virtual device) associated with > the IP information configured on an interface"; > > What does "which is within the interface's identified physical or > virtual device" mean? How about: "Add a node for the identification of the network instance (which is within the interface's identified physical or virtual device) associated with the IP information configured on an interface"; > > 9) leaf bind-network-instance-name > > This leaf is a string. Shouldn't it be a leafref? > > leaf bind-network-instance-name { > type leafref { > path "/network-instances/network-instance/name"; > } > ... > } good catch, this was left over form earlier version. > > 10) inconsistent formatting > > I suggest you run pyang -f yang [--keep-comments] and possibly edit > the result add/remove comments. > > The following comment doesn't add much and should be removed: > > // namespace > namespace "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-network-instance"; > > Also remove the comments about rpcs and notifications. > > Also add period ('.') at the end of all sentences in the > descriptions. > will do > > 11) section 2 > > Align with section 2 in the LNE document. > will do > 12) section 3 > > Can the same interface be bound to both an LNE and an NI? If not, > this needs to be explained. > okay. > 13) YANG tree > > Section 3.2 uses a tree diagram to show instance data. I think this > is confusing, and you should use XML or JSON instead. > > (see my comments on YANG tree in the LNE review as well) > I personally like the tree representation to show instance data find it as much more readable for informative text, but agree that this isn't a 'standard' convention so perhaps we need to move way from it. The next rev will use JSON representation for example instance data. > > > /martin Thank you for the comments! > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > From nobody Tue Jun 27 10:18:15 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C3C126CC7 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:18:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f2svTjBlCbgI for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-4.cisco.com (aer-iport-4.cisco.com [173.38.203.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7DC12EA7C for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1840; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1498583891; x=1499793491; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jd6npDjYrqPS6RSQPptV/mZNX+jON8BQSa5o1qlcNbI=; b=RYoqbEohSBGaZiRN1xjiRZ6jG3rBUI/vbP6/89iTTvul2SSpqN4sIufh 9YU/63RF13YxGm0pNiz82IIEIYmhl07Z1c2tOJejEjT00DhD5Kp7W+9jd P+qHiUNEo0uccfvBQFg5xcAArg1/THehNWoWE1kQrN297PGDU2T7upBdj Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AmAQDekVJZ/xbLJq1cGgEBAQECAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QgBAQEBhDuBDo4Fc5BRIpV9ghEshX0Cgz4YAQIBAQEBAQEBayiFGAEBAQEDHRU?= =?us-ascii?q?BBTYGBRALDgMEAQEoB0YIAQgGDQYCAQGKHw0QsnCLVwEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBARgFgyeDTIIMC4JuhDsSAYYQAQSeb4c2jDWCCoVJg0uGdoxViE8fOH8?= =?us-ascii?q?LUSMVSYcVPjaGbIIwAQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.39,402,1493683200"; d="scan'208";a="655714947" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-4.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 27 Jun 2017 17:18:09 +0000 Received: from [10.61.68.72] (ams3-vpn-dhcp1096.cisco.com [10.61.68.72]) by aer-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v5RHI9Aa010627; Tue, 27 Jun 2017 17:18:09 GMT Subject: Re: FW: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay To: Chris Bowers References: Cc: "stephane.litkowski@orange.com" , rtgwg@ietf.org From: Clarence Filsfils Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 19:18:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 17:18:14 -0000 Im not aware of any IPR. Cheers, Clarence > *From:*rtgwg [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Bowers > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:26 PM > *To:* RTGWG > *Cc:* draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > > > RTGWG, > > > > The consensus appears to be for the WG to request publication of this > draft as a standards track document. > > > > We still need IPR responses from two of the authors before we can proceed. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris and Jeff > > > > _____________________________________________ > *From:* Chris Bowers > *Sent:* Friday, June 2, 2017 3:43 PM > *To:* RTGWG > > *Subject:* WG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay > > > > > > RTGWG, > > > > This email starts the two week WG last call for > draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay. > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-uloop-delay/ > > > > Please indicate support for or opposition to the publication of this > > standards track document, along with the reasoning for that support or > > opposition. > > > > IPR: > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor, please respond to > > this email stating whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The > > response needs to be sent to the RTGWG mailing list. The document will > > not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from > > each author and each individual that has contributed to the document. > > > > The document currently has the following IPR disclosure associated > > with it. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2565/ > > > > This last call will end on Friday June 16th. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris and Jeff > > > From nobody Thu Jun 29 13:29:28 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BB012EAA5; Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:29:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-07.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149876816711.27868.6781125406460769820@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:29:27 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 20:29:27 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Area Common YANG Data Types Authors : Xufeng Liu Yingzhen Qu Acee Lindem Christian Hopps Lou Berger Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-07.txt Pages : 38 Date : 2017-06-29 Abstract: This document defines a collection of common data types using the YANG data modeling language. These derived common types are designed to be imported by other modules defined in the routing area. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Jun 29 14:42:12 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietf.org Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D291292F5; Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:42:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: rtgwg@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-08.txt X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149877252152.27831.15805773003993763195@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 14:42:01 -0700 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Area Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 21:42:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group of the IETF. Title : Routing Area Common YANG Data Types Authors : Xufeng Liu Yingzhen Qu Acee Lindem Christian Hopps Lou Berger Filename : draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-08.txt Pages : 40 Date : 2017-06-29 Abstract: This document defines a collection of common data types using the YANG data modeling language. These derived common types are designed to be imported by other modules defined in the routing area. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/