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Subject: Make $2,000 every WEEK!!  GUARANTEED!!                     -----------------------runx Time:1:13:47 AM
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style='font-size:18.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
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10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:18.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:red'>$1,000 </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Commission on a</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'> $0 down SALE !! </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>-<o:p></o:p
/span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>DID YOU MAKE</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'> </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:red'>$8,000 </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>LAST MONTH? IF NOT,<br> </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>YOU NEED TO JOIN US
TODAY!</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></b><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p
/span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>$0 DOWN ! </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:red'>100%</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'> FINANCING </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>- </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:red'>100%</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'> </span></b><b style='m
-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>CASH MACHINE</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:red'>EVERYBODY IS A PROSPECT </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'>- 99% APPROVED</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>EARN $1,000 </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>ON EVERY A THROUGH F CREDIT SALE!</span></b><span
style='font
ize:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>EARN $1,000</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'> ON EACH AND EVERY SALE TO INFINITY!</span></b><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'><br> REQUEST MORE INFO NOW!</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'> send an e-mail to: </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:blue'>runnerx43@yahoo.com</span></u></
<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'><br> with </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>SEND INFO</span></b><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> in the subject line or JUST CLICK on
reply</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red'> NOW!!</span></b><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><br> Available for USA residents only. </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size
2.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><br> ~~~~~~~~~~~<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'><br> </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Market</span></b><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> the hottest consumer savings package
in <br> America today and </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:red'>earn $1,000 </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>each and <br> every time someone joins for $0 DOWN! </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;mso-bidi-
nt-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>Imagine </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>being plugged into a </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:blue'>proven system</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'><br> that puts your entire business on auto-pilot and<br> have you </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:red'>earning $2,000 every week! </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verd
a;color:black'><br> IT'S TRUE! You can be in business for $0 DOWN!<br> </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>And you can easily
make $2,000 your very first week .</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'>..<br> and we'll show you how! Your business will literally<br> explode overnight when you join our team and plug<br> into the BEST marketing system available on the web! </span></b><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'><br> </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>REQUES
MORE INFO
NOW!</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> send an
e-mail to: </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><u><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:blue'>runnerx43@yahoo.com</span></u></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'><br> with </span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>SEND INFO</span></b><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> in the subject line or JUST CLICK on
reply</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-size:
13.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red'> NOW!!</span></b><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span s
le='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><br> Available for USA residents only.</span></b><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'>-<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:black'>-<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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From: "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" <dee3@TORQUE.POTHOLE.COM>
Subject:      Re: We've got lift-off
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              <200105041345.JAA0000085156@torque.pothole.com>

So who is going to make this simple tweak and submit a new
internet-draft?

Donald

From:  "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" <dee3@TORQUE.POTHOLE.COM>
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Date:          Fri, 4 May 2001 09:45:50 -0400
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                           <10105011755.AA17205@Ludwig.sc.intel.com>
>I'd like to agree that a pretty simple quick amendment is called for.
>I'm a bit embarassed that I looked too much at the details rather than
>the overall picture when I did my final review.
>
>While it is true that such a revision would need to go through the
>"entire approval loop" again, if the revised document is based on the
>published RFC with changes confined to one or two section, I don't
>think it would have much trouble...
>
>Thanks,
>Donald
>
>From:  Sally Hambridge <sallyh@LUDWIG.SC.INTEL.COM>
>Message-ID:   <10105011755.AA17205@Ludwig.sc.intel.com>
>Date:          Tue, 1 May 2001 10:55:45 PDT
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>>>
>>>
>>Ted - check with April on the process for revisions - and if
>>you want to add the confirmed opt-in stuff I think it would
>>make the doc better, but I think it would have to go through
>>the entire approval loop again
>>
>>As for spamcon, I can't think of anything special....
>>
>>Sally
>>>
>>Ted said:
>>>Speaking of RFC-3098, how does everyone feel about making a quick
>>>amendment and resubmitting? We've gotten some good feedback and
>>>suggestions that would indicate that perhaps something is missing. In
>>>the discussion, we neglected to include a mail-loop approval, which
>>>essentially prevents the activity of an opt-in request until the
>>>requestor actually does something (click on a link, reply to the
>>>message, etc...). This shifts the responsibility from the user (having
>>>to deal with unauthorized subscriptions) to the list owners (having to
>>>verify each address prior to inclusion). It's a MAPS-endorsed
>>>protection, and I think it warrants inclusion in some text from the
>>>IETF.
>>>
>>>I'd be happy to make the changes and present it to the group and up
>>>the chain for resubmission, but I'd like to see what Sally, April and
>>>the group have to say about it.
>>>
>>>On another note, I've been asked to speak at SPAMCON regarding this
>>>subject and Responsible Use, from the business perspective as well as
>>>the policy perspective. Anyone have any points they'd like to see
>>>included?
>>>
>>>Ted
>>>
>>>


