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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Source Address Validation Improvements Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : SAVI Solution for DHCP
        Authors         : Jun Bi
                          Jianping Wu
                          Guang Yao
                          Fred Baker
	Filename        : draft-ietf-savi-dhcp-28.txt
	Pages           : 44
	Date            : 2014-07-04

Abstract:
   This document specifies the procedure for creating a binding between
   a DHCPv4/DHCPv6 assigned IP address and a binding anchor on a SAVI
   (Source Address Validation Improvements) device.  The bindings set up
   by this procedure is used to filter out packets with forged source IP
   address in DHCP scenario.  This mechanism is proposed as a complement
   to ingress filtering to provide finer-grained source IP address
   validation.


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With regard to protecting hosts from "on-link" attackers, there are two 
different cases.
If the SAVI function is on the device with a dedicated port to the end 
device (or an authenticated port) then there is no value in sending the 
NS back to the entity which sent it.  (Some of this is conceptually 
buried in the definition of binding scopes in SAVI, and can be hard to 
realize.)

In the case where the SAVI function is upstream of the usage port (for 
example, it is on the router port, with bridges / switches between the 
prot and the users) there are many weaknesses in SAVI efficacy.  That is 
clearly stated in the documents.  Sending the NS back on that port will 
not as far as I can tell help resolve much, if any, of those weaknesses. 
  We did discuss this extensively in the working group.

Yours,
Joel

On 5/6/14, 11:21 PM, Leaf Yeh wrote:
> Joel - The goal of SAVI is very specific. it is to prevent one node from
> claiming an address that is belongs to (by assignment or proper
> claiming) another node.  Can you please restate your concern with the data
> trigger in terms of how it fails to meet that goal?....
> Sending solicitations back onto that LAN (which seems to be what you are
> asking for) does not actually help with that problem.
>
> I guess your logic sounds right. DAD_NS should sent through the TP, which
> may connect to other SAVI device (and more hosts) within the same scope,
> i.e. the same link, or the same broadcast domain. But the above logic sounds
> not cover my concern on the host to abuse the source address within the
> on-link prefix.
>
> Sending DAD_NS back to the VP receiving the data trigger, sounds useful for
> a check. Wrong or harmful?
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Leaf
>
>


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Source Address Validation Improvements Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : SAVI Solution for DHCP
        Authors         : Jun Bi
                          Jianping Wu
                          Guang Yao
                          Fred Baker
	Filename        : draft-ietf-savi-dhcp-29.txt
	Pages           : 44
	Date            : 2014-07-21

Abstract:
   This document specifies the procedure for creating a binding between
   a DHCPv4/DHCPv6 assigned IP address and a binding anchor on a SAVI
   (Source Address Validation Improvements) device.  The bindings set up
   by this procedure is used to filter out packets with forged source IP
   address in DHCP scenario.  This mechanism is proposed as a complement
   to ingress filtering to provide finer-grained source IP address
   validation.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-savi-dhcp/

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Dear Secretary,

This is a request to publish draft-ietf-savi-dhcp-29 as Standard track RFC.
Please find below the Shepherd Document write-up.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

JMC.

(1)   The type of RFC requested is Proposed Standard. This is the proper
type because this document describes specifications for a mechanism being
implemented and deployed. The type of RFC is indicated in the title page
header.

(2)   Here is the Document Announcement Write-Up,

Technical Summary:

This document specifies the procedure for creating a binding between a
DHCPv4/DHCPv6 assigned IP address and a binding anchor on a SAVI (Source
Address Validation Improvements) device. The bindings set up by this
procedure is used to filter out packets with forged source IP address in
DHCP scenario. This mechanism is proposed as a complement to ingress
filtering to provide finer-grained source IP address validation.

Working Group Summary:

Even if IPR have been disclosed, there is no concern from the WG to move
forward this document as Proposed Standard.

Document Quality:

This document has been thorough reviewed.

Personnel:

The document shepherd is Jean-Michel Combes (jeanmichel.combes@gmail.com). =
The
Responsible Area Director is Ted Lemon (ted.lemon@nominum.com)

(3)   The review of this document performed by the Document Shepherd
includes:

-          Comments from IESG regarding the other SAVI documents (i.e.,
FCFS SAVI, SEND SAVI) are taken into account inside this document

-          Specifications described inside this document are following,
when possible, the same framework as the other SAVI documents (i.e., FCFS
SAVI, SEND SAVI) to ease the implementation of many SAVI mechanism inside a
same SAVI device.

-          A check of the English level (even if English is not the mother
tongue of the Document Shepherd).

(4)   The Document Shepherd has no concern about the deph or breadth of the
reviews that have been performed.

(5)   As the mechanism specified in this document is strongly based on
DHCPv4/DHCPv6, the dhc WG has been associated to the WGLC.

(6)   The Document Shepherd has no specific concerns or issue with this
document.

(7)   Each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures
required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have
been filed.

(8)   An IPR disclosure has been filed that references this document. After
the disclosure, a new WGLC has been launched to know if any member of the
WG would have concerns to move forward the document: there was no concern.

(9)   The WG consensus behind this document is mainly based of the
agreement of a small group with others being silent.

(10)  Nobody threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent=
.

(11)  The check done with ID Nits tool is not successful: there is one
error.

(12)  The document doesn=E2=80=99t need to meet any required format review =
criteria

(13)  All references within this document have been identified as either
normative or informative but, as noted by the ID Nits check (cf. above), a
normative reference is in fact an Informational RFC.

(14)  There are 2 normative references (i.e., ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield,
ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-dhcpv6) that are not ready for advancement. Finally,
the Document Shepherd believes these references should become informative
references as they don=E2=80=99t impact critically the mechanism specified =
in this
document.

(15) There is one downward normative reference (cf. ID Nits check). This
normative reference should become informative reference.

(16) The publication of this document will not change the status of any
existing RFC.

(17) There is no request for an action from the IANA.

(18) There is no request for an action from the IANA.

(19) There is no formal language inside this document expecting a specific
review from the Document Shepherd.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Dear Secretary,<br><br></div>This is a=
 <span class=3D"">request</span> to publish <span class=3D"">draft-ietf-sav=
i-dhcp-29</span><span class=3D""></span> as Standard track RFC. Please find=
 below the Shepherd Document write-up.<br>
<br></div>Thanks in advance.<br><br></div>

Best regards,<br><br></div>JMC.<br>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(1)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The type of RFC requested is
Proposed Standard. This is the proper type because this document describes
specifications for a mechanism being implemented and deployed. The type of =
RFC
is indicated in the title page header.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(2)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Here is the Document Announcement
Write-Up,</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Technical
Summary:</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">This
document specifies the procedure for creating a binding between a DHCPv4/DH=
CPv6
assigned IP address and a binding anchor on a SAVI (Source Address Validati=
on
Improvements) device. The bindings set up by this procedure is used to filt=
er
out packets with forged source IP address in DHCP scenario. This mechanism =
is
proposed as a complement to ingress filtering to provide finer-grained sour=
ce
IP address validation.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Working
Group Summary:</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Even
if IPR have been disclosed, there is no concern from the WG to move forward
this document as Proposed Standard.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Document
Quality:</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">This
document has been thorough reviewed.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt">Personnel:</p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt">The document shepherd is Jean-Michel Combes
(<a href=3D"mailto:jeanmichel.combes@gmail.com">jeanmichel.combes@gmail.com=
</a>). <span style lang=3D"EN-US">The
Responsible Area Director is Ted Lemon (<a href=3D"mailto:ted.lemon@nominum=
.com">ted.lemon@nominum.com</a>)</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(3)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The review of this document
performed by the Document Shepherd includes:</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:54pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>-<span=
 style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Comments
from IESG regarding the other SAVI documents (i.e., FCFS SAVI, SEND SAVI) a=
re
taken into account inside this document</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:54pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>-<span=
 style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Specifications
described inside this document are following, when possible, the same frame=
work
as the other SAVI documents (i.e., FCFS SAVI, SEND SAVI) to ease the
implementation of many SAVI mechanism inside a same SAVI device.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:54pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>-<span=
 style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span></span></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">A
check of the English level (even if English is not the mother tongue of the=
 Document
Shepherd). </span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(4)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The Document Shepherd has no concern
about the deph or breadth of the reviews that have been performed.</span></=
p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(5)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">As the mechanism specified in this
document is strongly based on DHCPv4/DHCPv6, the dhc WG has been associated=
 to
the WGLC.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(6)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The Document Shepherd has no
specific concerns or issue with this document.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(7)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Each author confirmed that any and
all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the
provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have been filed.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(8)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">An IPR disclosure has been filed
that references this document. After the disclosure, a new WGLC has been la=
unched
to know if any member of the WG would have concerns to move forward the
document: there was no concern. <span style>=C2=A0</span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(9)<sp=
an style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The WG consensus behind this
document is mainly based of the agreement of a small group with others bein=
g silent.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(10)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span></span></s=
pan><span style lang=3D"EN-US">Nobody
threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(11)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span></span></s=
pan><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The
check done with ID Nits tool is not successful: there is one error. </span>=
</p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(12)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span></span></s=
pan><span style lang=3D"EN-US">The
document doesn=E2=80=99t need to meet any required format review criteria</=
span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(13)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span></span></s=
pan><span style lang=3D"EN-US">All
references within this document have been identified as either normative or
informative but, as noted by the ID Nits check (cf. above), a normative
reference is in fact an Informational RFC.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(14)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0 </span></span></s=
pan><span style lang=3D"EN-US">There
are 2 normative references (i.e., ietf-opsec-dhcpv6-shield, ietf-dhc-dhcpv4=
-over-dhcpv6)
that are not ready for advancement. Finally, the Document Shepherd believes
these references should become informative references as they don=E2=80=99t=
 impact
critically the mechanism specified in this document.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(15) <=
/span></span><span style lang=3D"EN-US">There
is one downward normative reference (cf. ID Nits check). This normative
reference should become informative reference.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(16)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> </span></span></span><s=
pan style lang=3D"EN-US">The
publication of this document will not change the status of any existing RFC=
.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(17)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> </span></span></span><s=
pan style lang=3D"EN-US">There
is no request for an action from the IANA.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(18)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> </span></span></span><s=
pan style lang=3D"EN-US">There
is no request for an action from the IANA.</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin-left:36pt"><span style lang=3D"EN-US"><span style>(19)<s=
pan style=3D"font:7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> </span></span></span><s=
pan style lang=3D"EN-US">There
is no formal language inside this document expecting a specific review from=
 the
Document Shepherd.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span></p>

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The IESG has received a request from the Source Address Validation
Improvements WG (savi) to consider the following document:
- 'SAVI Solution for DHCP'
  <draft-ietf-savi-dhcp-29.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract


   This document specifies the procedure for creating a binding between
   a DHCPv4/DHCPv6 assigned IP address and a binding anchor on a SAVI
   (Source Address Validation Improvements) device.  The bindings set up
   by this procedure is used to filter out packets with forged source IP
   address in DHCP scenario.  This mechanism is proposed as a complement
   to ingress filtering to provide finer-grained source IP address
   validation.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-savi-dhcp/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-savi-dhcp/ballot/


The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2373/



