From dmm@1-4-5.net Mon Mar 4 06:46:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEB021F855C for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:46:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eYyL9Z99yOf5 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A301721F8948 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so4998182lab.39 for ; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:46:04 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=fkB0hlgEMYLhm8Dzx/gWqpidBLrcGyyA46hsCWBO25I=; b=lBb2VOa9kkJ9q9LSz3LcbScu+D4OTzbN9s9iNdTY30Q4UoZ5NWInVvGuvWE94ZB8lJ CdNJSv00UqmvX9/13cxrjoslWkBXCO3bmaB0NDjxlZ28HXvyUq6OnQ1uBT1k5LNqiipG TmVy1xH/UkpUpAnOXZ0tgGlOpXyu/x7jMJ4ANidH/U20I+Vga0ycUE35K8JoFdCA9DJ2 E6HaZibzJ0aQeKL1XWjWK10USYbir96bThKUFQkSNokwaUMnpBXfbYOuCS8WceMA0bBy PKbhLvbOb9JNZ8auS59cGdXlcPLIS0AaMed6T4oFyurJ2IIr5KrVGdLMh55pgSiF664n uILg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.9.104 with SMTP id y8mr4566402lba.132.1362408364438; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.135.67 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:46:04 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2001:468:d01:9c:e947:f7c5:2704:e76b] Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 06:46:04 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Meyer To: SDN IRTF list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkzDSurOEQTweru9EJyOJoLTzB2d75vQz20JBnfkmTDYEtEAezoAw7z9q19sxs/ygZDaXSf Cc: edc@google.com, Jamal Hadi Salim , omar cherkaoui , Nick Feamster , Bob Briscoe , Rob Sherwood , d.king@lancaster.ac.uk Subject: [Sdn] draft agenda for the SDNRG in Orlando posted X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:46:09 -0000 The draft agenda can be found on http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/agenda/agenda-86-sdnrg. If you are a speaker please send your slides to me as soon as possible. For those of you who proposed talks and didn't get a slot, we just had too many proposals for the allotted time (so please send your proposal next time). In addition, we'll need a {text, jabber} scribe for the meeting. Please let me know us you can provide either. Thanks again for all of your submissions. 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Call for Papers for the 5th Internation= al Symposium on
Cyberspace Safety and Security (CSS 2013)
 
 
Organizers:
Central South University, China
National University of Defense Technology, C= hina
Hunan University, China
Jishou University, China
 
 
Technical Co-Sponsorship:
Deakin University, Australia
Springer Lecture Notes in Computer Science
School of Information Science and Engineerin= g, Central South University, China
School of Software, Central South University= , China
 
 
Venue & Dates:
Zhangjiajie, China, November 13-15, 2013
 
 
Conference Website:
http://trust.csu.edu.cn/conference/css2013
 
 
Introduction
 
A large fraction of the population in&n= bsp;the world now spends a great deal o= f time in cyberspace. Cyberspace has become&= nbsp;a critical infrastructure that is embedded&n= bsp;in almost all other critical infrastructures&= nbsp;and enables every movement of human soc= iety. It is thus very much in the = public interest to have a safe and secu= re cyberspace. 
 
In the past several years, there has&nb= sp;been a large number of attacks in cy= berspace, such as attacks on the Internet,&n= bsp;attacks on embedded/real-time computing and c= ontrol systems, and attacks on dedicated com= puting facilities. Many research efforts have&nbs= p;been made to achieve cyberspace safety and=  security, such as blocking and limiting&nbs= p;the impact of compromise, enabling accountabili= ty, promoting deployment of defense systems, = ;and deterring potential attackers and penalizing=  attackers. 
 
In this context, we will focus our = ;program on cyberspace safety and security, = such as authentication, access control, availabil= ity, integrity, privacy, confidentiality, dependabilit= y and sustainability issues of cyberspace. T= he aim of this symposium is to provide&= nbsp;a leading edge forum to foster interact= ion between researchers and developers with = the cyberspace safety and security communities,&n= bsp;and to give attendees an opportunity to&= nbsp;network with experts in this area. The&= nbsp;symposium will be a highly focused, pro= fessional, high quality, and social event. <= /DIV>
 
In the past, CSS has been held in&= nbsp;Melbourne, Australia (2012), Milan, Italy (2= 011), Chengdu, China (2009), and Sydney, Aus= tralia (2008). 
 
 
Scope and Interests
 
The CSS-13 conference will provide a fo= rum for engineers and scientists in academia= , industry, and government to address all&nb= sp;challenges including technical, safety, social,&nbs= p;and legal issues related to Cyberspace Saf= ety and Security and to present and dis= cuss their ideas, results, work-in-progress and&n= bsp;experience on all aspects of Cyberspace = Safety and Security. Topics of particular in= terest include, but are not limited to: = ;
 
(1) Data and Applications Security
1. Digital Rights Management
2. Secure Information Integration and Transa= ction Processing
3. Secure Semantic Web and Web Services=
4. Security in E-Commerce and M-Commerce
5. Secure Operating Systems
6. Watermarking
7. Privacy and Data Protection
8. Emerging Technologies and Applications
9. Database Security
10. Data Mining Security
 
(2) Network and Communications Security
1. Attack Containment
2. Active Defense Techniques and Systems
3. Attack Recovery
4. Intelligent Defense Systems
5. Internet and Network Forensics
6. Spam Detection and Prevention
7. Security for Ad-Hoc and Sensor Netwo= rks
8. Secure Network Architectures
9. Distributed Intrusion Detection / Prevent= ion Systems
10. Denial-of-Service Attacks and Countermeasures=  
 
(3) Software and Systems Security
1. Software and Systems Assurance
2. Secure Design and Testing
3. Viruses, Worms, and Other Malicious = Code
4. Security Theory and Tools
5. Security in Pervasive and Embedded S= ystems
6. Access Control
7. Security for Large-scale Systems and = ;Critical Infrastructures
8. Security Auditing
9. Intrusion Detection System 
10. Risk Assessment and Risk Management
 
(4) Cloud Security
1. Practical Cryptographic Protocols for Clo= ud Security
2. Multi-tenancy and Related Security Issues=
3. Secure Cloud Resource Virtualization Mech= anisms
4. Secure Data Management and Computation&nb= sp;Outsourcing
5. Trust and Policy Management in Cloud= s
6. Sandboxing and VM-based Enforcements 
7. Managing Security Benefits and Risks = ;of Cloud Computing
8. New Cloud-aware Web Service Security = ;Paradigms and Mechanisms
9. Network Security Mechanisms for Cloud&nbs= p;Contexts
10. New Architectures and Design Methods&nbs= p;for Developing Cloud Services 
 
(5) Cyberspace Safety
1. Identity Management and Authentication
2. Security and Usability
3. Security and Privacy in Social Netwo= rks
4. Privacy Models
5. Privacy Enhancing Technologies
6. Human Factors in Computer Security
7. Modeling and Analyzing Online User B= ehavior
8. Risk Assessment in Cyber Security
9. Benchmark, Analysis and Evaluation of&nbs= p;Cyber Security
10. Implementation, Deployment and Management&nbs= p;of Cyber Security
 
 
Submission and Publication Information
 
The accepted papers from this conference&nbs= p;will be published by Springer Lecture Note= s in Computer Science (EI indexed). Submitte= d papers must not substantially overlap with=  papers that have been published or tha= t are simultaneously submitted to a journal&= nbsp;or a conference with proceedings. Papers&nbs= p;must be clearly presented in English, must=  not exceed 15 pages  (or 20 pages=  with the over length charge), including&nbs= p;tables, figures, references and appendixes, in&= nbsp;Springer LNCS Format with Portable Document&= nbsp;Format (.pdf). Please submit your paper = ;at https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=3Dcss2013.
 
Papers will be selected based on their&= nbsp;originality, timeliness, significance, relevance, = ;and clarity of presentation. Distinguished paper= s, after further revisions, will be consider= ed for possible publication in several SCI&n= bsp;& EI indexed special issues of prest= igious international journals. The program commit= tee will select and award two "Best Pap= er Awards" for this conference. By submittin= g a paper to the conference, authors as= sure that if the paper is accepted, at&= nbsp;least one author will attend the confer= ence and present the paper. For no-show = ;authors, their papers will be removed from&= nbsp;the digital library after the conference&nbs= p;and their affiliations will be notified.
 
 
Important Dates
 
(1)  Paper Submission Due:    = ;         June 15, = 2013 
(2)  Notification of Decision:   &= nbsp;     August 15, 2013
(3)  Camera-ready Papers Due:   &n= bsp;      September 15, 2013
 
 
Steering Co-Chairs
 
Yang Xiang, Deakin University, Australia
Wanlei Zhou, Deakin University, Australia
 
 
General Co-Chairs
 
Guojun Wang, Central South University, China=
Vijay Varadharajan, Macquarie University, Austral= ia
Gregorio Martinez, University of Murcia, Spa= in
 
 
Program Co-Chairs
 
Indrakshi Ray, Colorado State University, US= A
Dengguo Feng, Institute of Software, Chinese=  Academy of Sciences, China
Muttukrishnan Rajarajan, City University, UK
 
 
Program Vice Co-Chairs
 
(1) Data and Applications Security Track
Di Ma, University of Michigan-Dearborn, USA<= /DIV>
Raman Adaikkalavan, Indiana University South = ;Bend, USA
 
(2) Network and Communications Security Trac= k
Robin Doss, Deakin University, Australia
Yulei Wu, Chinese Academy of Sciences, = China
 
(3) Software and Systems Security Track
Rose Gamble, University of Tulsa, USA
Jianxun Liu, Hunan University of Science&nbs= p;and Technology, China
 
(4) Cloud Security Track
Hua Wang, University of Southern Queensland,=  Australia
Dhiren Patel, NIT Surat, India
 
(5) Cyberspace Safety Track
Steven Furnell, Plymouth University, UK?
Fang Qi, Central South University, China
 
 
Workshop Co-Chairs
 
Jemal H.Abawajy, Deakin University, Australia
Jin-Hee Cho, U.S. Army Research Laboratory,&= nbsp;USA
Yanjiang Yang, Institute for Infocomm Resear= ch, Singapore
Yeong-Deok Kim, Woosong University, Korea
 
 
Organizing Co-Chairs
 
Zhigang Chen, Central South University, Chin= a
Zhiying Wang, National University of Defense=  Technology, China
Chengzhong Xu, Hunan University, China
Bin Hu, Jishou University, China
 
 
Publicity Co-Chairs
 
Peter Mueller, IBM Zurich Research, Switzerl= and 
Yulei Wu, Chinese Academy of Sciences, = China
Scott Fowler, Linkoping University, Sweden
 
 
Publication Co-Chairs
 
Wang Yang, Central South University, China
Zhe Tang, Central South University, China
 
 
Finance Co-Chairs
 
Guihua Duan, Central South University, China=
Jin Zheng, Central South University, China
 
 
Local Arrangement Chair
 
Guomin Cai, Jishou University, China
 
 
Secretariats
 
Fang Qi, Central South University, China
Tao Peng, Central South University, China
 
 
Webmaster
 
Biao Deng, Central South University, China&n= bsp;
 
 
Contact
 
Please email inquiries concerning CSS 2013&n= bsp;to: 
Prof. Guojun Wang: csgjwang AT gmail DO= T com and the conference organizers (css2013= zhangjiajie AT gmail DOT com).
 
Copyright @ Trusted Computing Institute, CSU=
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The 12th IEEE International Conference on&nb= sp;Ubiquitous Computing and Communications (IUCC-2013)=
http://anss.org.au/iucc2013/
 
16-18 July 2013, Melbourne, Australia
 
Important Dates
Workshop Proposal: March 20, 2013 
Submission Deadline: March 20, 2013 (Firm&nb= sp;Deadline)
Authors Notification:  April 20, 2013 <= /DIV>
Final Manuscript Due: May 15, 2013 
 
Publications
Accepted and presented papers will be i= ncluded in the IEEE CPS Proceedings.
Distinguished papers presented at the confer= ence, after further revision, will be publis= hed in special issues of the following = high quality international journals (pending).
 - Computers & Security - Elsevier&= nbsp;(Impact factor=3D0.868)
 - Concurrency and Computation: Practice&nbs= p;and Experience - Wiley (Impact factor=3D0.636)<= /DIV>
 - Security and Communication Networks = - Wiley (Impact factor=3D0.414)
 - Future Generation Computer Systems -=  Elsevier (Impact factor=3D1.978)
 - Multimedia Tools and Applications -&= nbsp;Springer (Impact factor=3D0.617)
 - Journal of Internet Technology (Impa= ct factor=3D0.508)
 - Journal of Computer and System = Sciences - Elsevier (Impact factor=3D1.157)
 
Topics
 
Ubiquitous Computing Track:
 - Autonomic Computing
 - Utility Computing
 - Cloud Computing
 - Mobile Computing
 - Real-Time Computing
 - Grid and Peer-to-Peer Computing
 - Energy-Efficient Ubiquitous Computing
 - Wearable Computers
 - Embedded Computing
 - Parallel and Distributed Computing
 - Information Visualization
 - Modeling and Analysis of Ubiquitous&= nbsp;Computing Systems
 - Internet Computing
 - Ambient Intelligence
 - Middleware and Agent Technologies
 
Ubiquitous Communications Track:
 - Autonomic Communications
 - Computer Networking
 - Communication Theory and Protocols
 - Wireless Networks
 - Cognitive Radio
 - Pervasive Embedded Networks
 - Ad Hoc and Sensor Networks
 - RFID
 - Network Middleware
 - Enabling Technologies (e.g., Wireless&nbs= p;PANs, LANs, Bluetooth)
 - Location Systems and Technology
 - Multimedia Communication Systems
 - Human-Computer Interaction
 - Mobility Management 
 - Future Networks and Protocols
 
Ubiquitous System, Services and Applications = ;Track:
 - Context-Aware Applications
 - Resource Management
 - Programming Paradigms for Ubiquitous = ;Computing Applications
 - Smart Home
 - Pervasive Health
 - Ubiquitous Platforms
 - Embedded Systems
 - E-Commerce and E-Learning
 - Multimedia Applications
 - Quality-of-Service
 - Information Security and Privacy
 - Security Issues and Protocols
 - Key Management, Authentication and A= uthorization
 - Multimedia Information Security
 - Forensics and Image Watermarking
 - Distributed Sensing, Monitoring and = Management Systems
 
Organisation Committee
 
General Chairs:
 - Wanlei Zhou, Deakin University, Aust= ralia
 - Beniamino Di Martino, Seconda Univer= sita di Napoli, Italy
 - Geyong Min, University of Bradford,&= nbsp;UK
 
Program Chairs:
 - Yang Xiang, Deakin University, Austr= alia
 - Ahmed Al-Dubai, Edinburgh Napier Uni= versity, UK
 - Yulei Wu, Chinese Academy of Sc= iences, China
 
Workshop Chairs: 
 - Marisol Garcia Valls, Universidad Ca= rlos III de Madrid, Spain
 - Xiaolong Jin, Chinese Academy of&nbs= p;Sciences, China
 - Bahman Javadi, University of Western=  Sydney, Australia
 
Publicity Chiar:
 - Roberto Di Pietro, University of&nbs= p;Roma 3, Italy
 - Wenbin Jiang, Huazhong University of=  Science and Technology, China
 - Mianxiong Dong, The University of&nb= sp;Aizu, Japan
 
Program Committees:
Please check the full list at http://an= ss.org.au/iucc2013/program_committee.html.
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The 12th IEEE International Conference on&nb= sp;Ubiquitous Computing and Communications (IUCC-2013)=
http://anss.org.au/iucc2013/
 
16-18 July 2013, Melbourne, Australia
 
Important Dates
Workshop Proposal: March 20, 2013 
Submission Deadline: March 20, 2013 (Firm&nb= sp;Deadline)
Authors Notification:  April 20, 2013 <= /DIV>
Final Manuscript Due: May 15, 2013 
 
Publications
Accepted and presented papers will be i= ncluded in the IEEE CPS Proceedings.
Distinguished papers presented at the confer= ence, after further revision, will be publis= hed in special issues of the following = high quality international journals (pending).
 - Computers & Security - Elsevier&= nbsp;(Impact factor=3D0.868)
 - Concurrency and Computation: Practice&nbs= p;and Experience - Wiley (Impact factor=3D0.636)<= /DIV>
 - Security and Communication Networks = - Wiley (Impact factor=3D0.414)
 - Future Generation Computer Systems -=  Elsevier (Impact factor=3D1.978)
 - Multimedia Tools and Applications -&= nbsp;Springer (Impact factor=3D0.617)
 - Journal of Internet Technology (Impa= ct factor=3D0.508)
 - Journal of Computer and System = Sciences - Elsevier (Impact factor=3D1.157)
 
Topics
 
Ubiquitous Computing Track:
 - Autonomic Computing
 - Utility Computing
 - Cloud Computing
 - Mobile Computing
 - Real-Time Computing
 - Grid and Peer-to-Peer Computing
 - Energy-Efficient Ubiquitous Computing
 - Wearable Computers
 - Embedded Computing
 - Parallel and Distributed Computing
 - Information Visualization
 - Modeling and Analysis of Ubiquitous&= nbsp;Computing Systems
 - Internet Computing
 - Ambient Intelligence
 - Middleware and Agent Technologies
 
Ubiquitous Communications Track:
 - Autonomic Communications
 - Computer Networking
 - Communication Theory and Protocols
 - Wireless Networks
 - Cognitive Radio
 - Pervasive Embedded Networks
 - Ad Hoc and Sensor Networks
 - RFID
 - Network Middleware
 - Enabling Technologies (e.g., Wireless&nbs= p;PANs, LANs, Bluetooth)
 - Location Systems and Technology
 - Multimedia Communication Systems
 - Human-Computer Interaction
 - Mobility Management 
 - Future Networks and Protocols
 
Ubiquitous System, Services and Applications = ;Track:
 - Context-Aware Applications
 - Resource Management
 - Programming Paradigms for Ubiquitous = ;Computing Applications
 - Smart Home
 - Pervasive Health
 - Ubiquitous Platforms
 - Embedded Systems
 - E-Commerce and E-Learning
 - Multimedia Applications
 - Quality-of-Service
 - Information Security and Privacy
 - Security Issues and Protocols
 - Key Management, Authentication and A= uthorization
 - Multimedia Information Security
 - Forensics and Image Watermarking
 - Distributed Sensing, Monitoring and = Management Systems
 
Organisation Committee
 
General Chairs:
 - Wanlei Zhou, Deakin University, Aust= ralia
 - Beniamino Di Martino, Seconda Univer= sita di Napoli, Italy
 - Geyong Min, University of Bradford,&= nbsp;UK
 
Program Chairs:
 - Yang Xiang, Deakin University, Austr= alia
 - Ahmed Al-Dubai, Edinburgh Napier Uni= versity, UK
 - Yulei Wu, Chinese Academy of Sc= iences, China
 
Workshop Chairs: 
 - Marisol Garcia Valls, Universidad Ca= rlos III de Madrid, Spain
 - Xiaolong Jin, Chinese Academy of&nbs= p;Sciences, China
 - Bahman Javadi, University of Western=  Sydney, Australia
 
Publicity Chiar:
 - Roberto Di Pietro, University of&nbs= p;Roma 3, Italy
 - Wenbin Jiang, Huazhong University of=  Science and Technology, China
 - Mianxiong Dong, The University of&nb= sp;Aizu, Japan
 
Program Committees:
Please check the full list at http://an= ss.org.au/iucc2013/program_committee.html.
------=_001_NextPart616750877738_=------ From dgq2011@gmail.com Tue Mar 19 19:53:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01E321F86CB for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.12 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jNj47ykdJnO7 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da0-x229.google.com (mail-da0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::229]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C64B21F85DB for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id w4so693430dam.0 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:x-priority:x-has-attach:x-mailer :mime-version:message-id:content-type; bh=01pKXpnvlL3KX2IWogPK3lVJ67RFktQjTzKk7vhEcXk=; b=bFGbKRqWzElUOnsLZPjRhWgBH7Sa1RBmgPDPAhXm4rdQXT4Wyy3A3AU07YkFcAXoSC EWCia7W90m9gwFLPp+uXuUxnJVZBVVaWRQde39ipN8Aq65LByUUgPx4JMksdBA4PxVNz 62DtO+adRiaTrWVdBvCke2EvSiINxaRLXzSQkYA/ryrsVguUXVW6CDXflpen1sW7s6Ml NmQ+I03cwDEjDj9s3UNuch+2O7n3VTO1KGlALRqoB1a6ubPmP0vvYCNrKBupJJoUsqRm u3eFGJJjpQyD5bQy/qPD16WkUgx0MTKSXmluz03G3KlOVGbENbhBzIZGeJ8qbBLAmoqb vtow== X-Received: by 10.68.134.38 with SMTP id ph6mr6426562pbb.205.1363748025851; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-THINK ([218.241.103.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kt5sm234102pbc.30.2013.03.19.19.53.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:53:41 +0800 From: "Guangqing Deng" To: sdn X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.91[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <201303201053391435883@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart122652607735_=----" Subject: [Sdn] IETF86 minutes X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:53:46 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_001_NextPart122652607735_=---- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGksIGZvbGtzLCBkb2VzIGFueW9uZSBrbm93IHdoZW4gdGhlIG1pbnV0ZXMgb2YgU0ROUkcgaW4g SUVURjg2IHdpbGwgYmUgYXZhaWxhYmxlIG9uIGxpbmU/DQoNCg0KDQoNCkd1YW5ncWluZyBEZW5n ------=_001_NextPart122652607735_=---- Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, folks, does anyone know when the minutes of SDNRG in IETF86 will = be=20 available on line?
 
Guangqing Deng
------=_001_NextPart122652607735_=------ From d.king@lancaster.ac.uk Wed Mar 20 03:35:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E5921F88B0 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:35:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Xw0Jj4ghZ47 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ignavia.lancs.ac.uk (ignavia.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.25.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3514221F848D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex-0-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.47] helo=EX-0-HT0.lancs.local) by ignavia.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UIGMQ-0005jH-94; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:35:10 +0000 Received: from EX-0-MB2.lancs.local ([fe80::9d98:936b:54d1:c531]) by EX-0-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::7d10:114a:53b0:7f2f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:35:09 +0000 From: "King, Daniel" To: Guangqing Deng , sdn Thread-Topic: [Sdn] IETF86 minutes Thread-Index: AQHOJRYqGxBimF+FCEOzy5xjvmtI+piuYj+g Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:35:09 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A05DF57@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> References: <201303201053391435883@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201303201053391435883@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [88.97.23.122] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Sdn] IETF86 minutes X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:35:14 -0000 Hi All,=20 I took some minutes which I will send to Dave and Nick today.=20 You can also listen to the audio recording of the session: http://www.ietf.= org/audio/. Br, Dan.=20 From: sdn-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Guang= qing Deng Sent: 20 March 2013 02:54 To: sdn Subject: [Sdn] IETF86 minutes Hi, folks, does anyone know when the minutes of SDNRG in IETF86 will be ava= ilable on line? =A0 ________________________________________ Guangqing Deng From mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Wed Mar 20 08:40:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735AB21F8F7A for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:40:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.994 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.994 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.254, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OdKI5NbPUn50 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8CC21F8D46 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfedm06.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.2]) by omfedm12.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id DDF5618CAD8 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:40:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from PUEXCH81.nanterre.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.101.44.34]) by omfedm06.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id C521F27C067 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:40:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr ([10.101.44.11]) by PUEXCH81.nanterre.francetelecom.fr ([10.101.44.34]) with mapi; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:40:50 +0100 From: To: "sdn@irtf.org" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:40:50 +0100 Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac4lgLaKBoKyi6w7Q7yI8Zsj9QgB5QAAAvJA Message-ID: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> Accept-Language: fr-FR Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: fr-FR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2013.3.20.141518 Cc: JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN Subject: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:40:58 -0000 Dear all, We submitted this new I-D. Comments and inputs are welcome. Cheers, Med -----Message d'origine----- De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] D= e la part de internet-drafts@ietf.org Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. Title : Software-Defined Networking: A Service Provider's Perspe= ctive Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair Christian Jacquenet Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2013-03-20 Abstract: Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. And yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been broadly admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the clarification of the SDN landscape. It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but rather to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be used under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending issues the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. As such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of clarification. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From rob.sherwood@bigswitch.com Wed Mar 20 09:02:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510DD21F900A for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qFl559s8R4bq for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B9D21F8FD8 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id wz12so1479657pbc.3 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=OCJ/md6KssOAIUdU/Q6BJup14mibk3O8aQbOXMI0Cxo=; b=T6elQPjt0De/czWJRLPcn80PyRILS7BiJTmbB+jyUUKtVw4MuYGVaH3tdiKpIhWWgm rzQbbdpSVT+UDno8+xybV+LWzyc2+8fcOLRrTZayIe61ss/4JxCFEaLOELNDBoevoa0m AWfeTdSXL3YPsVt9AslaMb5Y142umbvjfD1YWnFbanxwekWpQ/tpvQdNLpbsBziRoEL6 sTrRAPJ4wAf1x6nFoZOaATqefEL+XKtIkw/1nYfpZSNtsNrs34JXTU06aRbADAozpak8 R9EmgjUDxkRZMHZvxBlu80Yr5L7vtvqqASBlU5GTzoURj/MgN0BzCQN2vXu4Ue477/D+ VM8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.87.129 with SMTP id ay1mr9904678pbb.105.1363795361349; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.42.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:02:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: Rob Sherwood To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlIEZMLFqgR5kxn44i2KuLcT6206/ffyrd3i4cIvxA7pqOCHF7D1OoWqHIb5wShyerl8EW1 Cc: "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:02:42 -0000 Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface with the ONF on issues like this. As you can imagine, coming up with definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific (if you're interested, check out our WG information at https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architecture-and-framework). If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions doesn't do any one any good :-) Let me know how you might like to do that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the easiest way to go about it. Please let me know and thanks for looking into this, - Rob . On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, wrote: > Dear all, > > We submitted this new I-D. > > Comments and inputs are welcome. > > Cheers, > Med > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org]= De la part de internet-drafts@ietf.org > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 > =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org > Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > > > Title : Software-Defined Networking: A Service Provider= 's Perspective > Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair > Christian Jacquenet > Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > Pages : 13 > Date : 2013-03-20 > > Abstract: > Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz > words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. And > yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been broadly > admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the > clarification of the SDN landscape. > > It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but rather > to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be used > under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending issues > the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. As > such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of > clarification. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn From edc@google.com Wed Mar 20 11:01:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A14421F8501 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:01:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.144 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.144 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RX-8Zt03O5kB for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4494121F8FF7 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k14so1623660wer.11 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=IPqiUbgcDbs74ShexDARC+t9TMdki0pF4GnRmnsSSyc=; b=Ne2MuO3/Nf3unf8HLZ+jxAe+xTRsmGSwC6aa8ESTwg9Hj4Cfbe9KOFeU+C2pFiQyvo NSlhfMZM2YHEyQDuOjZeWkw+wD2bk2v02Ly4Lu983Q0NE7DIcNh1+LgObGlTKtLQTHN6 FX2KwYCvj0gJIt55mKVT+Tr5IG313RY3KEmqmSghCH2so+BZvfdIENWRGfAtH9h+O6gA aHe3vd63RWumCMebKg3tII6oXOSmARMutxT4Kr0LNuaGslBS/c4dqiqEziHQXSNWlEp7 EPOyleNUj7p6tHsZy0rXj302P6OvjPdqnTUa5FR8jWdD8+/vSg5FEX020/cndtCgXVVW OaRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=IPqiUbgcDbs74ShexDARC+t9TMdki0pF4GnRmnsSSyc=; b=Y7MnxYH4WiNbrnotd25YRYpb4Rjd0yHWjoPMuqilVZOXCevXzhejPrA54mT0q2BSv6 CACWZBaxWcGgSyp8NJ/dn+ZNM/K/5NszcQ6Sd1/VywCpJDjpZuH0InPSXYFTEetMMTMx F/zHpAsD4CMeLNPAAiem6u4rwYUFyYqHxzpBe0/pqdcOnQcffbhqNHCzFU47KyWbq0AM da0Of6EPVMzKa0d03yDzUTnKp3gUlCOcxy9cRYcMuE1R3JX68xANkCXRpSpfInjHNJZW QGx6IcqNNSOxlrZs7W4ACKRyissM8ghqgfiTnjSH8sPX5EsWqRl/64CTcya6fcfZ60X9 urlg== X-Received: by 10.180.11.148 with SMTP id q20mr184083wib.18.1363802464268; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:01:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.83.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> From: Edward Crabbe Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:00:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: Rob Sherwood Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24cda6d511804d85f0179 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlLt42K9H+uYJtS9+ZMgRMLy/2wJ3FYkBtt0RYQkazscpwiV5V376ot4H7wFubkGzVeTMwa7abEmvkUY3ph7nknca8ynzYp479xXhpexZEjZlXHeHef9Zx5q/tZ8iM09/py89PZbKT3Pib+/lm0UDn62x/393myf98/Wk4bekM+KW+EbU3eaqjePVmAZuS2UaYVUsd6 Cc: "sdn@irtf.org" , mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:01:07 -0000 --001a11c24cda6d511804d85f0179 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob; The IETF has specific procedures for liaisons with other SDOs: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4052.txt http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4053.txt I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. Perhaps someone on the list can comment? On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Sherwood w= rote: > Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was > originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface > with the ONF on issues like this. As you can imagine, coming up with > definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in > general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific > (if you're interested, check out our WG information at > https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architecture-and-framework)= . > > If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to > coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions > doesn't do any one any good :-) Let me know how you might like to do > that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the > easiest way to go about it. > > Please let me know and thanks for looking into this, > > - Rob > . > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > We submitted this new I-D. > > > > Comments and inputs are welcome. > > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.or= g] > De la part de internet-drafts@ietf.org > > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 > > =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org > > Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > > > > Title : Software-Defined Networking: A Service > Provider's Perspective > > Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair > > Christian Jacquenet > > Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > > Pages : 13 > > Date : 2013-03-20 > > > > Abstract: > > Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz > > words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. And > > yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been broadl= y > > admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the > > clarification of the SDN landscape. > > > > It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but rathe= r > > to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be used > > under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending issues > > the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. As > > such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of > > clarification. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach > > > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > I-D-Announce mailing list > > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > _______________________________________________ > > sdn mailing list > > sdn@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > --001a11c24cda6d511804d85f0179 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rob;

The IETF has specific proced= ures for liaisons with other SDOs:


I= 9;m actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. =A0P= erhaps someone on the list can comment?


On Wed,= Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Sherwood <rob.sherwood@bigswitch.co= m> wrote:
Apologies that I could not make the meeting = in Orlando, but I was
originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface
with the ONF on issues like this. =A0As you can imagine, coming up with
definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in
general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific
(if you're interested, check out our WG information at
https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/a= rchitecture-and-framework).

If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to
coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions
doesn't do any one any good :-) =A0Let me know how you might like to do=
that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the
easiest way to go about it.

Please let me know and thanks for looking into this,

- Rob
.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, =A0<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We submitted this new I-D.
>
> Comments and inputs are welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : i-d-announce-bou= nces@ietf.org [mailto:= i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de internet-drafts@ietf.org
> Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36
> =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org
> Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Software-Defined Networkin= g: A Service Provider's Perspective
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Author(s) =A0 =A0 =A0 : Mohamed Boucadair
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Christian Jacquene= t
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Filename =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach= -00.txt
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Pages =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 13
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Date =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: 2013-03-20
>
> Abstract:
> =A0 =A0Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buz= z
> =A0 =A0words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. = =A0And
> =A0 =A0yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been b= roadly
> =A0 =A0admitted so far. =A0This document aims at contributing to the > =A0 =A0clarification of the SDN landscape.
>
> =A0 =A0It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but = rather
> =A0 =A0to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be = used
> =A0 =A0under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending is= sues
> =A0 =A0the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. = =A0As
> =A0 =A0such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of
> =A0 =A0clarification.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-= approach
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-= 00
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp:= //ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> _______________________________________________
> I-D-Announce mailing list
> I-D-Announce@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce
> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
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--001a11c24cda6d511804d85f0179-- From dmm@1-4-5.net Wed Mar 20 12:19:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B4011E80F3 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kA+WAXeEaPpe for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FD911E80E3 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gw10so3675746lab.27 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=t5pWlFy59BDqB2nt39I+XEKdcmC9xa+673OIAU7vGPo=; b=XDROwtVUuuVVruxoE+m76Zdv0kb7jF+Bw8TPmqh7T3PLz6YCDITxWVNMBYOwWtre2a pZal9JunWcctoki494FrmSgqu12Gr4v3XlJtiQA7S149o1AIL/v5ez+8SrmfP4U7X+X/ TNJK5PIrrdw/UWULV2lx0+//l97q9i13Qkv06Dz7k9KpOF1V11Vx/XL94Uo6OlRmvFmx oHkM2x8fFxpq4qUylOOqqiHw+mHNifr5pFc/oNYdb+irwFckKm1k8kfFb05L/MPCzJ8T OKb3oxnUcCwgbcEGxXeCMZAnPoO8R3b+/Q82HAW1pXFBuPkjRUXfbt14Joj08xTva8Fp IMsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.101.130 with SMTP id fg2mr10134404lbb.64.1363807153971; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.3.201 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [65.114.129.62] In-Reply-To: References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:19:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: David Meyer To: Edward Crabbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnehc766/6DDZ+HddCQjsZ77eL2zzKlzfDLnJtIDYFvsIyREgm4r/w5/b/mjbIgGlGaEGHR Cc: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, Dan Pitt , "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN , Rob Sherwood Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:19:17 -0000 Copying Dan Pitt who can comment. --dmm On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Edward Crabbe wrote: > Rob; > > The IETF has specific procedures for liaisons with other SDOs: > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4052.txt > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4053.txt > > I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. > Perhaps someone on the list can comment? > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Sherwood > wrote: >> >> Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was >> originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface >> with the ONF on issues like this. As you can imagine, coming up with >> definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in >> general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific >> (if you're interested, check out our WG information at >> https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architecture-and-framework= ). >> >> If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to >> coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions >> doesn't do any one any good :-) Let me know how you might like to do >> that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the >> easiest way to go about it. >> >> Please let me know and thanks for looking into this, >> >> - Rob >> . >> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, wrote: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > We submitted this new I-D. >> > >> > Comments and inputs are welcome. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Med >> > >> > >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org >> > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de >> > internet-drafts@ietf.org >> > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 >> > =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org >> > Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt >> > >> > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> > directories. >> > >> > >> > Title : Software-Defined Networking: A Service >> > Provider's Perspective >> > Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair >> > Christian Jacquenet >> > Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt >> > Pages : 13 >> > Date : 2013-03-20 >> > >> > Abstract: >> > Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz >> > words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. And >> > yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been broad= ly >> > admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the >> > clarification of the SDN landscape. >> > >> > It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but rath= er >> > to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be used >> > under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending issues >> > the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. As >> > such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of >> > clarification. >> > >> > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach >> > >> > There's also a htmlized version available at: >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 >> > >> > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > I-D-Announce mailing list >> > I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sdn mailing list >> > sdn@irtf.org >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn >> _______________________________________________ >> sdn mailing list >> sdn@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > > > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > From dmm@1-4-5.net Wed Mar 20 12:30:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CEA21F86E6 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id neSJnwQ3Ujn0 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67CC21F859C for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so3629004lab.39 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=xdyq/oW82XVMSJiBLr4mjt9LAdS0X+im8+M2zHjP97s=; b=PFeOZBzZzmlNQ2jX7cAtcyqip96o8uFPlS1w8Gq71ZJBH/DwY5teGi+VG9hFJ7MyAs ZcD+XAF/y+vegAQQOACUNiC3VXUJkKH8Xs/EV7bNOcwzivosKq9ZnJv7Di38f/i0+lvo ovNm5o6s2wvulxIumm4iHHGzoxk1lhf+jS/WIlwkGlhFxUqkxBc1g41MYetGuTdTYfR+ 6Ak6Q31nluGO3RpwWZ8IYRs+4oCrv0+yynri5+tU7fS+k3UDTCgYRdILT2qOhGH45Jp7 8g330gJP+ftFDrMNdU6waG9ivGcSM5ZEK4FTFhiUmyGQalXePov2mQXpwtF7LfTftI3B DlKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.148.196 with SMTP id tu4mr10302341lbb.35.1363807820769; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.3.201 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:30:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [65.114.129.62] Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: David Meyer To: SDN IRTF list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkiPbVVBQB05nkTrIrri+XtEvNIqqoa1hYZNGe/1gVfU1Q1Bx8RK79bYQn+9yCBt7C34yq9 Subject: [Sdn] draft minutes from IETF 86 posted X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:30:34 -0000 See https://pub.ietf.org/proceedings/86/sdnrg Thnx Daniel! --dmm From arnaudmm@gmail.com Wed Mar 20 12:42:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5FA11E80FA for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:42:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8o3rwnuRDuui for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A4611E80F4 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id g12so870578oah.9 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:42:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=wPmdX/9jle3BbUaVfFBaEkgq5L8TyqmDq4IvkkXeto0=; b=YmWEpcE9KbJAe1HOgR784Yj74YGEvpGF77IqvKFa8LcQ/WbbWLQYW9aw8kQdRDZSbi oGwOg0+pzGkYDRTriP2gmketJApm1Xa9t5un4edL2ZrsEO61qFgfswxwpRhOxlGyyBB+ BQt5gEAYmCZVycHoFGh26QuVucHUaJCHyCHjt6JRjPbzFSVjwNbwmbOIBxNp5l2UynFS xUqSg7u+vEIIp9niJxJOAD8QOE8St6zdauetIs/S5eppy8DUPGl9WIpyJg8T/6JKTb5/ 4o0TvtuC0a6jpLEBRjjsSs/Cyhx7QrHIlZXS9kpTAc+HfmzlTsgSTiCM+NM/evrmfeho w/AQ== X-Received: by 10.60.41.202 with SMTP id h10mr4959774oel.54.1363808527879; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:42:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.79.36 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:41:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Arnaud M Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:41:47 +0100 Message-ID: To: David Meyer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01536d62d8935f04d8606a40 Cc: SDN IRTF list Subject: Re: [Sdn] draft minutes from IETF 86 posted X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:42:08 -0000 --089e01536d62d8935f04d8606a40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 user/password recquired ? 2013/3/20 David Meyer > See https://pub.ietf.org/proceedings/86/sdnrg > > Thnx Daniel! > > --dmm > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > --089e01536d62d8935f04d8606a40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 user/password recquired ?

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--089e01536d62d8935f04d8606a40-- From dmm@1-4-5.net Wed Mar 20 12:44:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34BE21F896E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fcI-vnJQ8L3d for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x230.google.com (mail-la0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AD221F8910 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id fq13so3631792lab.7 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=shXBZ5Pte33a2YGX2KEJSAGcYgfkxaIg+o1o9bqG+kk=; b=G0HFMGGm6XpVe/Dc0LDNyy6vF9nVAxRyECEx68QO1copgF7wtQlU900QhbIsHJcytI wIguSVDixN8Kic2hS1CUc6Qo41D70fywKyfhTRD5qoVVu2/+9+dvedNwSlwStt7eukwM fHvxftWi4Hk2re+XeLnE3bCQpz6RSNyHl+3NoWP1vTnuMjE1fKw2eOhK93mvGrmKEJjv WQ/Yko0yIo8Ib7Tt/XBS/XzHb6chWGicEjIj8OpfedeS1odJTkNLXGj5lCDFWwOcWQFX J37xaCjnqcAln04cG7rlG10EQ76P6o3pkt90QveeeQj0UMyF2P7mChUK5eFxCfs0LCZU jaxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.101.130 with SMTP id fg2mr10172883lbb.64.1363808646491; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.3.201 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:44:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [65.114.129.62] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:44:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: David Meyer To: Arnaud M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmEOfdui5t2FfE66EWK87VHxzdp8BeDjDmsCiCTK+KBvWfWguPb7rJPWU3TNzDjUuGzSy4v Cc: SDN IRTF list Subject: Re: [Sdn] draft minutes from IETF 86 posted X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:44:09 -0000 My mistake. Try http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/minutes/minutes-86-sdnrg --dmm On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Arnaud M wrote: > user/password recquired ? > > 2013/3/20 David Meyer >> >> See https://pub.ietf.org/proceedings/86/sdnrg >> >> Thnx Daniel! >> >> --dmm >> _______________________________________________ >> sdn mailing list >> sdn@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > From d.king@lancaster.ac.uk Wed Mar 20 13:13:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D2B11E8125 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3tFvBdCvwsb2 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ignavia.lancs.ac.uk (ignavia.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.25.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A05711E80DE for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex-0-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.47] helo=EX-0-HT0.lancs.local) by ignavia.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UIPO5-0001Rg-2n; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:13:29 +0000 Received: from EX-0-MB2.lancs.local ([fe80::9d98:936b:54d1:c531]) by EX-0-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::7d10:114a:53b0:7f2f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:13:28 +0000 From: "King, Daniel" To: SDN IRTF list Thread-Topic: [Sdn] draft minutes from IETF 86 posted Thread-Index: AQHOJaFp9XnWC1iCa0qjImif2Spzkpiu+qeAgAAApgCAAAcokA== Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:13:27 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A060201@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [88.97.23.122] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Arnaud M Subject: Re: [Sdn] draft minutes from IETF 86 posted X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:13:34 -0000 Thanks Dave.=20 For the folks that would like links to IETF the presentations, jabber, audi= o and minutes. Then see: https://ietf.org/proceedings/86/sdnrg Just one of the many methods of accessing WG materials within the IETF/IRTF= .=20 Br, Dan.=20 -----Original Message----- From: sdn-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of David= Meyer Sent: 20 March 2013 19:44 To: Arnaud M Cc: SDN IRTF list Subject: Re: [Sdn] draft minutes from IETF 86 posted My mistake. Try http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/minutes/minutes-86-sdnrg --dmm On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Arnaud M wrote: > user/password recquired ? > > 2013/3/20 David Meyer >> >> See https://pub.ietf.org/proceedings/86/sdnrg >> >> Thnx Daniel! >> >> --dmm >> _______________________________________________ >> sdn mailing list >> sdn@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > _______________________________________________ sdn mailing list sdn@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn From edc@google.com Wed Mar 20 13:20:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADBB11E8125 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:20:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.561 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.561 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.416, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JOq86T8n7A1o for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0698511E811E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id ez12so5797075wid.11 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:20:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=H5r+typic90nPxJenbRK+qtUyAyRrtYvmJlA5vUTMwA=; b=MFpTvEW5zS0C2a3hk47/6+H2L8f2Zs44MGZrCTJK9wwFlxU9ptLJIEd8ztgEZXHvfg Kd9KpU8Tra//9GRdcil9ZMBMoXNr+Xu7zdSoReirNoC0f40lqYgknHxyOU4m8mxfepx3 /4y+vSPDr/FAxWyqAIiOtWGZIhdlAfdl5U4DhF0s+NjK4gaJhdr6q2axXTAYx9ve7Vdg X53KEbz3f5fk+0tBfQdxKvL/dk9WzNRyLdqirGlmg3iloOy+ksRYz6UEm8JS8xKLrjIu NNRFgKcpWZeol3gGH912czrZlPhjOq/Pmxp6MEx1qzFnDYiJK4baIT62Hykq9RL58yMD mTNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=H5r+typic90nPxJenbRK+qtUyAyRrtYvmJlA5vUTMwA=; b=EjXU/TNhYnFn3X+51P8bUu0pyoDj1nJIMHGBma4urYPMKj6uWYw8jlGvTM5ZdffWSR 7ABJvMIF7RCbf1G0124NxcUNkoCwGAa7wUja0gMqwvHXBn5navPyuBRJUvsyND8qDYiQ t2V12kGkgmPp6UjjHH8egxsqGqoZtg5seYPo6xp43fBaDUhnUFLiUmflQPSNWOzvQx5b K5+OGgdWucHUaABwaPebD6vm9kQTr3eNFV0Nu7YuGRnBeuCl5iVJdGCipNAgszJt1YB3 6HQs0mnZioVcpVP5cofZphmTsYHRTdSEmfDY3svnpO/9Hi7+87lv6TVsp9PKXGp7q4Gm 1uDA== X-Received: by 10.180.75.143 with SMTP id c15mr606045wiw.18.1363810839855; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:20:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.83.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> From: Edward Crabbe Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:19:59 -0700 Message-ID: To: David Meyer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04389555a7c5f504d860f4df X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk0k7PldUNtE0gnjY0mTCd4QQ/UmYs90puekBFOLjY1Mtn+sEUe4tHE2TzP1T5v2FNZs47qzXRKSMrla+uy9Fi7kNnGAvg1RA0RTCHF7cd3Ihtd1SOHNDErNI5ctxppdITPnU4DdKQaqHckgGENNcJiVL4nu/RUxI2CvM3KXiHYOiRU6qfhck0QtkLwpBSpboXtNwzG Cc: Dan Pitt , "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN , Rob Sherwood , "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:20:42 -0000 --f46d04389555a7c5f504d860f4df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +adrian If we do have one, it's not on the liaison managers page ATM. :P On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM, David Meyer wrote: > Copying Dan Pitt who can comment. --dmm > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Edward Crabbe wrote: > > Rob; > > > > The IETF has specific procedures for liaisons with other SDOs: > > > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4052.txt > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4053.txt > > > > I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. > > Perhaps someone on the list can comment? > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Sherwood < > rob.sherwood@bigswitch.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was > >> originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface > >> with the ONF on issues like this. As you can imagine, coming up with > >> definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in > >> general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific > >> (if you're interested, check out our WG information at > >> > https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architecture-and-framework)= . > >> > >> If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to > >> coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions > >> doesn't do any one any good :-) Let me know how you might like to do > >> that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the > >> easiest way to go about it. > >> > >> Please let me know and thanks for looking into this, > >> > >> - Rob > >> . > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, wrote= : > >> > Dear all, > >> > > >> > We submitted this new I-D. > >> > > >> > Comments and inputs are welcome. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > Med > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Message d'origine----- > >> > De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org > >> > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de > >> > internet-drafts@ietf.org > >> > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 > >> > =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> > Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > >> > > >> > > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >> > directories. > >> > > >> > > >> > Title : Software-Defined Networking: A Service > >> > Provider's Perspective > >> > Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair > >> > Christian Jacquenet > >> > Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > >> > Pages : 13 > >> > Date : 2013-03-20 > >> > > >> > Abstract: > >> > Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz > >> > words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. A= nd > >> > yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been > broadly > >> > admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the > >> > clarification of the SDN landscape. > >> > > >> > It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but > rather > >> > to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be us= ed > >> > under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending issu= es > >> > the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. As > >> > such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of > >> > clarification. > >> > > >> > > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach > >> > > >> > There's also a htmlized version available at: > >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 > >> > > >> > > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > I-D-Announce mailing list > >> > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > >> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > >> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > sdn mailing list > >> > sdn@irtf.org > >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sdn mailing list > >> sdn@irtf.org > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sdn mailing list > > sdn@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > > --f46d04389555a7c5f504d860f4df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+adrian

If we do have one, it'= ;s not on the liaison managers page ATM. =A0:P


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:19 = PM, David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net> wrote:
Copying Dan Pitt who can comment. --dmm

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com> wrote:
> Rob;
>
> The IETF has specific procedures for liaisons with other SDOs:
>
> http= ://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4052.txt
> http= ://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4053.txt
>
> I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the mom= ent.
> Perhaps someone on the list can comment?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Sherwood <rob.sherwood@bigswitch.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was<= br> >> originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interfac= e
>> with the ONF on issues like this. =A0As you can imagine, coming up= with
>> definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in >> general and the architecture working group that I chair in specifi= c
>> (if you're interested, check out our WG information at
>> https://www.opennetworking.org/working= -groups/architecture-and-framework).
>>
>> If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to<= br> >> coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definition= s
>> doesn't do any one any good :-) =A0Let me know how you might l= ike to do
>> that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be t= he
>> easiest way to go about it.
>>
>> Please let me know and thanks for looking into this,
>>
>> - Rob
>> .
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, =A0<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > We submitted this new I-D.
>> >
>> > Comments and inputs are welcome.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Med
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Message d'origine-----
>> > De : i-d-ann= ounce-bounces@ietf.org
>> > [mailto:i-d-= announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
>> > internet-drafts@i= etf.org
>> > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36
>> > =C0 : i-d-announce@i= etf.org
>> > Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt
>> >
>> >
>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-D= rafts
>> > directories.
>> >
>> >
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Software-Defined = Networking: A Service
>> > Provider's Perspective
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Author(s) =A0 =A0 =A0 : Mohamed Boucadair
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Christian= Jacquenet
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Filename =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn= -approach-00.txt
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Pages =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 13
>> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Date =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: 2013-03-20
>> >
>> > Abstract:
>> > =A0 =A0Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the = major buzz
>> > =A0 =A0words of the networking industry for the past couple o= f years. =A0And
>> > =A0 =A0yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers h= as been broadly
>> > =A0 =A0admitted so far. =A0This document aims at contributing= to the
>> > =A0 =A0clarification of the SDN landscape.
>> >
>> > =A0 =A0It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly me= ans, but rather
>> > =A0 =A0to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques tha= t can be used
>> > =A0 =A0under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various p= ending issues
>> > =A0 =A0the combined activation of such techniques inevitably = raises. =A0As
>> > =A0 =A0such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sa= ke of
>> > =A0 =A0clarification.
>> >
>> >
>> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-s= dnrg-sdn-approach
>> >
>> > There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-= approach-00
>> >
>> >
>> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > I-D-Announce mailing list
>> > I-D-Announce@ietf.or= g
>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce<= br> >> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
>> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > sdn mailing list
>> > sdn@irtf.org
>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn
>> _______________________________________________
>> sdn mailing list
>> sdn@irtf.org
>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sdn mailing list
> sdn@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn
>

--f46d04389555a7c5f504d860f4df-- From lars@netapp.com Wed Mar 20 15:00:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C07C1F0D0D for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:00:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.534 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.534 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MRWqeUjjWmG4 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx12.netapp.com (mx12.netapp.com [216.240.18.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0E91F0D07 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:00:49 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,880,1355126400"; d="scan'208";a="32481343" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx12-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 20 Mar 2013 15:00:48 -0700 Received: from vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com (vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com [10.106.77.34]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id r2KM0mtC012975; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.218]) by vmwexceht04-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.77.34]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:00:48 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: Edward Crabbe Thread-Topic: [Sdn] I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHOJbZgU8aymuYKr0is7T50gzM4Kg== Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:00:47 +0000 Message-ID: <3DCA1AF0-428A-4B3D-878E-F76959119CB8@netapp.com> References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.117] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <7E88BC06F6749041B6F40F0DA640E45A@tahoe.netapp.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "" , "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN , Rob Sherwood Subject: Re: [Sdn] I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:00:49 -0000 Hi, On Mar 20, 2013, at 11:00, Edward Crabbe wrote: > I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. > Perhaps someone on the list can comment? I don't think the IETF has a liaison to the ONF at the moment. The I*R*TF - where the SDNRG is homed - certainly doesn't, and since we don= 't do standards, we don't even have a concept of a formal liaison. Lars= From edc@google.com Wed Mar 20 15:36:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8954111E80F9 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:36:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RkcA35tNVWVi for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F5011E80F1 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hm6so2442929wib.14 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:36:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=VRRIh3O0xXfmo1ExDLHPqXwS33MSe28s7dPjU1hSA5Q=; b=ZGSUBPgw1HfAfZh7gEvWUgz7NGlZXcj2hcWKJTZz0RGmJF65DE8g8Mbn22tjsWfxPX UNf4VCtWxb3GhaLzj1g/vtEb2kUtavzxwW0ib20dkdCEPYHk9XXKrL67ubW+PWUAFOM8 0p9mcfjdmfcU+pI2RrZgcopEFJoHP55ssOX/7RpLq6CWOY7kH+tF6lSe5XBsd4Ix6ByW OGDlPNoFUxWgWf39PFfZqJ+Iqqu7gPsrbXZvaVAsQ6MJPlZSXVzVL/CiNJBR3YbEl1cq /jdyhBi73hA+mLYwXutnfAmyAd8n2dAVkSRlImoE5ZZ2//2wArXv4VkrcFExh8liyKz8 mkUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=VRRIh3O0xXfmo1ExDLHPqXwS33MSe28s7dPjU1hSA5Q=; b=LtDoidE4VDf4J9norP5wEsbVKvg/hQjncUj1Z2R3mUzJX0IIMgrfvW16ElsPXpcqN1 lCwg6pP8egpJYK8NvgXmKnS2mb4ZpHstojDCrZihDA6m25Xd4KtfMQZzX52hc+tK/Uvh HwAJdpl9QKeEfp+IRUN+vcaGuP+GmHMVtnbV2dtCZIyxY57q9mwJL7yljhXrBglcsGJt kmWRww2FDIvtrURtVK1S1TvyRtE68pBf6rnkHifVtGd2YJdAiznkQ1FCqVsFX6kgm3i7 pyPxfM8J1mR9aK7mkhsF1VROL6UZ3fK0glxOUEKgXhSUKc/ml3gDZx/ENEOxWcyozSwv VpPw== X-Received: by 10.194.158.161 with SMTP id wv1mr13493029wjb.38.1363818992015; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:36:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.83.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3DCA1AF0-428A-4B3D-878E-F76959119CB8@netapp.com> References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> <3DCA1AF0-428A-4B3D-878E-F76959119CB8@netapp.com> From: Edward Crabbe Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:35:51 -0700 Message-ID: To: "Eggert, Lars" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6ab08eb28c04d862da9d X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnIKv6qAMlAofPmCphw3mObX+jDhtfdGF9CydeGpem4+f9V/hNvt8sod+UMgW7+zv0N58AIxoQ3hMYioNSkzYsTl+wzxyqr6LGIK0TRM4cYml85mX4IZTrf54VBN2Zv8Q4KkVrzIsojXF6vyhdsKRSfnIfagzpOGzwHl5r/bnhE/97OZukGDnUZMcyBQHsjtrNIWerP Cc: "" , "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN , Rob Sherwood Subject: Re: [Sdn] I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:36:33 -0000 --089e013c6ab08eb28c04d862da9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yep, acknowledged. This is off topic for an IRTF list. If we are attempting to /standardize/ definitions, as mentioned by Rob, then the discussion is occurring in the wrong place. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 11:00, Edward Crabbe wrote: > > I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. > > Perhaps someone on the list can comment? > > I don't think the IETF has a liaison to the ONF at the moment. > > The I*R*TF - where the SDNRG is homed - certainly doesn't, and since we > don't do standards, we don't even have a concept of a formal liaison. > > Lars --089e013c6ab08eb28c04d862da9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yep, acknowledged. =A0This is off topic for an IRTF list. = =A0
If we are attempting to /standardize/ definitions, as mentioned by = Rob, then the discussion is occurring in the wrong place.=A0


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Eggert,= Lars <lars@netapp.com> wrote:
Hi,

On Mar 20, 2013, at 11:00, Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com> wrote:
> I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the mom= ent.
> Perhaps someone on the list can comment?

I don't think the IETF has a liaison to the ONF at the moment.
The I*R*TF - where the SDNRG is homed - certainly doesn't, and since we= don't do standards, we don't even have a concept of a formal liais= on.

Lars

--089e013c6ab08eb28c04d862da9d-- From mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Wed Mar 20 23:47:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9FC21F9012 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:47:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73s8z1WJI7UG for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E2221F9009 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.4]) by omfedm14.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 33DEE22C6E4; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:47:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from PUEXCH61.nanterre.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.101.44.32]) by omfedm08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 0673C23804B; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:47:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr ([10.101.44.11]) by PUEXCH61.nanterre.francetelecom.fr ([10.101.44.32]) with mapi; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:47:21 +0100 From: To: Rob Sherwood Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:47:19 +0100 Thread-Topic: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac4lhFvCPHaLE/1PQeGYulZyHj5IOAAeqDQg Message-ID: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC510@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: fr-FR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2013.3.18.105419 Cc: "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:47:25 -0000 Dear Rob, This is an individual submission which proposes a taxonomy, discusses issue= s and clarifies the scope (including identifying explicitly items which are= seen as non goals for us). This document is submitted to sdnrg as items co= vered in this I-D are part of sndrg charter (http://irtf.org/sdnrg).=20 You are welcome to join this effort if you share the thoughts sketched in t= he draft.=20 Please read the document and share your comments (using this list or off-li= ne).=20 Cheers, Med >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Rob Sherwood [mailto:rob.sherwood@bigswitch.com]=20 >Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 17:03 >=C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN >Cc : sdn@irtf.org; JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN >Objet : Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt > >Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was >originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface >with the ONF on issues like this. As you can imagine, coming up with >definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in >general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific >(if you're interested, check out our WG information at >https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architecture-and- >framework). > >If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to >coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions >doesn't do any one any good :-) Let me know how you might like to do >that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the >easiest way to go about it. > >Please let me know and thanks for looking into this, > >- Rob >. > >On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> We submitted this new I-D. >> >> Comments and inputs are welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> Med >> >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org=20 >[mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de=20 >internet-drafts@ietf.org >> Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 >> =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line=20 >Internet-Drafts directories. >> >> >> Title : Software-Defined Networking: A=20 >Service Provider's Perspective >> Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair >> Christian Jacquenet >> Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt >> Pages : 13 >> Date : 2013-03-20 >> >> Abstract: >> Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz >> words of the networking industry for the past couple of=20 >years. And >> yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has=20 >been broadly >> admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the >> clarification of the SDN landscape. >> >> It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly=20 >means, but rather >> to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that=20 >can be used >> under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various=20 >pending issues >> the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. As >> such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of >> clarification. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> _______________________________________________ >> sdn mailing list >> sdn@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn >= From mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Thu Mar 21 00:13:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA8321F8D3C for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:13:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.033 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.033 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.214, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pgPFVg8I3k0W for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC1421F8F1C for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfedm05.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.1]) by omfedm10.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 13A9D2643A5; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:13:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from PUEXCH61.nanterre.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.101.44.32]) by omfedm05.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id E6D0935C061; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:13:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr ([10.101.44.11]) by PUEXCH61.nanterre.francetelecom.fr ([10.101.44.32]) with mapi; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:13:37 +0100 From: To: Edward Crabbe , "Eggert, Lars" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:13:37 +0100 Thread-Topic: [Sdn] I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt Thread-Index: Ac4lu191BcFVRSM5SB6K1tRzY2+UZAAR/9Kw Message-ID: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC51E@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> References: <94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC424@PUEXCB1B.nanterre.francetelecom.fr> <3DCA1AF0-428A-4B3D-878E-F76959119CB8@netapp.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: fr-FR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC51EPUEXCB1Bnante_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2013.3.21.55416 Cc: "sdn@irtf.org" , JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN , Rob Sherwood Subject: Re: [Sdn] I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:13:44 -0000 --_000_94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC51EPUEXCB1Bnante_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re-, Standardizing a definition is not the intent of draft-sin*. This is explici= tly mentioned in the abstract: It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but rather to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be used under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending issues the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. Cheers, Med ________________________________ De : Edward Crabbe [mailto:edc@google.com] Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 23:36 =C0 : Eggert, Lars Cc : Rob Sherwood; sdn@irtf.org; BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN; JACQUENET Chri= stian OLNC/OLN Objet : Re: [Sdn] I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt Yep, acknowledged. This is off topic for an IRTF list. If we are attempting to /standardize/ definitions, as mentioned by Rob, the= n the discussion is occurring in the wrong place. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Eggert, Lars > wrote: Hi, On Mar 20, 2013, at 11:00, Edward Crabbe > wrote: > I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. > Perhaps someone on the list can comment? I don't think the IETF has a liaison to the ONF at the moment. The I*R*TF - where the SDNRG is homed - certainly doesn't, and since we don= 't do standards, we don't even have a concept of a formal liaison. Lars --_000_94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC51EPUEXCB1Bnante_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Re-,
 
Standardizing a definition is not the intent = of=20 draft-sin*. This is explicitly mentioned in the abstract:
 
   It is not meant to endlessly dis= cuss what=20 SDN truly means, but rather
   to suggest a functional taxonom= y of=20 the techniques that can be used
   under a SDN umbrella and to= =20 elaborate on the various pending issues
   the combined activa= tion=20 of such techniques inevitably raises.
Cheers,
Med
<= BR>
De : Edward Crabbe=20 [mailto:edc@google.com]
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013= =20 23:36
=C0 : Eggert, Lars
Cc : Rob Sherwood;= =20 sdn@irtf.org; BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/OLN; JACQUENET Christian=20 OLNC/OLN
Objet : Re: [Sdn] I-D Action:=20 draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt

Yep, acknowledged.  This is off topic for an IRTF lis= t.=20  
If we are attempting to /standardize/ definitions, as mentioned by R= ob,=20 then the discussion is occurring in the wrong place. 


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Eggert, Lars <lars@netapp.com> wrote:
Hi,

On Mar 20, 2013, at 11:00, Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com> wrote:
> I'= m=20 actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment.
&= gt;=20 Perhaps someone on the list can comment?

I don't think the= IETF=20 has a liaison to the ONF at the moment.

The I*R*TF - where the S= DNRG=20 is homed - certainly doesn't, and since we don't do standards, we don't= even=20 have a concept of a formal liaison.

Lars

--_000_94C682931C08B048B7A8645303FDC9F36EB9CFC51EPUEXCB1Bnante_-- From adrian@olddog.co.uk Thu Mar 21 00:55:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406EC21F9020 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:55:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qEZJGP3fiZX7 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD1121F902E for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2L7td6e004960; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:55:39 GMT Received: from 950129200 ([88.128.80.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r2L7tZaK004913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:55:38 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Edward Crabbe'" , "'David Meyer'" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:55:37 -0000 Message-ID: <02c501ce2609$7bf862c0$73e92840$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02C6_01CE2609.7C069390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac4mCUy289mkm23MQ0+f1mb4Z9Yo+g== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, 'Dan Pitt' , sdn@irtf.org, 'JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN' , 'Rob Sherwood' Subject: [Sdn] ONF/IETF relationship [Was: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt] X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:55:53 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02C6_01CE2609.7C069390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, =20 [Changing the subject to protect the innocent] =20 The IAB is responsible for the appointment of liaison managers and the = creation of formal liaison relationships. =20 All incoming and outgoing liaison statements can be seen at https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/ If you search for "ONF" you will find the IAB's liaison to the ONF on "Relationship between ONF and the IETF " at https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1171/ This was sent in response to the received message at https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1166/ =20 I read this as encouraging cross-body participation and cooperation. But = a more requests for a formal liaison relationship would need to be addressed to = the IAB. =20 Regards, Adrian =20 =20 From: Edward Crabbe [mailto:edc@google.com]=20 Sent: 20 March 2013 20:20 To: David Meyer Cc: Rob Sherwood; sdn@irtf.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; JACQUENET Christian OLNC/OLN; Dan Pitt; adrian@olddog.co.uk Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt =20 +adrian =20 If we do have one, it's not on the liaison managers page ATM. :P =20 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM, David Meyer wrote: Copying Dan Pitt who can comment. --dmm On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Edward Crabbe wrote: > Rob; > > The IETF has specific procedures for liaisons with other SDOs: > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4052.txt > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4053.txt > > I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the moment. > Perhaps someone on the list can comment? > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob Sherwood = > wrote: >> >> Apologies that I could not make the meeting in Orlando, but I was >> originally scheduled to speak on how for the IETF to best interface >> with the ONF on issues like this. As you can imagine, coming up with >> definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for the ONF in >> general and the architecture working group that I chair in specific >> (if you're interested, check out our WG information at >> = https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architecture-and-framework)= . >> >> If you're interested, to me it would definitely make sense to >> coordinate your and our activities, because two sets of definitions >> doesn't do any one any good :-) Let me know how you might like to do >> that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be the >> easiest way to go about it. >> >> Please let me know and thanks for looking into this, >> >> - Rob >> . >> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, = wrote: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > We submitted this new I-D. >> > >> > Comments and inputs are welcome. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Med >> > >> > >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org >> > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de >> > internet-drafts@ietf.org >> > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36 >> > =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org >> > Objet : I-D Action: draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt >> > >> > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> > directories. >> > >> > >> > Title : Software-Defined Networking: A Service >> > Provider's Perspective >> > Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair >> > Christian Jacquenet >> > Filename : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt >> > Pages : 13 >> > Date : 2013-03-20 >> > >> > Abstract: >> > Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major buzz >> > words of the networking industry for the past couple of years. = And >> > yet, no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been = broadly >> > admitted so far. This document aims at contributing to the >> > clarification of the SDN landscape. >> > >> > It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly means, but = rather >> > to suggest a functional taxonomy of the techniques that can be = used >> > under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending = issues >> > the combined activation of such techniques inevitably raises. = As >> > such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake of >> > clarification. >> > >> > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach >> > >> > There's also a htmlized version available at: >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00 >> > >> > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > I-D-Announce mailing list >> > I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sdn mailing list >> > sdn@irtf.org >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn >> _______________________________________________ >> sdn mailing list >> sdn@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > > > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > =20 ------=_NextPart_000_02C6_01CE2609.7C069390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

 

[Changing the subject to = protect the innocent]

 

The IAB is responsible for the = appointment of liaison managers and the creation of formal liaison = relationships.

 

All incoming and outgoing = liaison statements can be seen at = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/

If you search for = "ONF" you will find the IAB's liaison to the ONF on = "Relationship between ONF and the IETF " at = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1171/

This was sent in response to = the received message at = https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1166/

 

I read this as encouraging = cross-body participation and cooperation. But a more requests for a = formal liaison relationship would need to be addressed to the = IAB.

 

Regards,

Adrian

 

 

From: Edward Crabbe = [mailto:edc@google.com]
Sent: 20 March 2013 = 20:20
To: David Meyer
Cc: Rob Sherwood; = sdn@irtf.org; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; JACQUENET Christian = OLNC/OLN; Dan Pitt; adrian@olddog.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Sdn] TR: = I-D Action: = draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt

 

+adrian

 

If we do have one, it's not on the liaison managers = page ATM.  :P

 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM, David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net> = wrote:

Copying Dan Pitt who can = comment. --dmm


On Wed, = Mar 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Edward Crabbe <edc@google.com> wrote:
> = Rob;
>
> The IETF has specific procedures for liaisons with = other SDOs:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4052.txt
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4053.txt
>
>= I'm actually not sure that we have an appointed liaison at the = moment.
> Perhaps someone on the list can = comment?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Rob = Sherwood <rob.sherwood@bigswitch.com= >
> wrote:
>>
>> Apologies that I could not = make the meeting in Orlando, but I was
>> originally scheduled = to speak on how for the IETF to best interface
>> with the ONF = on issues like this.  As you can imagine, coming up = with
>> definitions and common vocabulary is top of mind for = the ONF in
>> general and the architecture working group that I = chair in specific
>> (if you're interested, check out our WG = information at
>> https://www.opennetworking.org/working-groups/architect= ure-and-framework).
>>
>> If you're interested, to = me it would definitely make sense to
>> coordinate your and our = activities, because two sets of definitions
>> doesn't do any = one any good :-)  Let me know how you might like to do
>> = that - I believe Orange is a member of the ONF, so that might be = the
>> easiest way to go about it.
>>
>> = Please let me know and thanks for looking into = this,
>>
>> - Rob
>> = .
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM,  <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com= > wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> = > We submitted this new I-D.
>> >
>> > = Comments and inputs are welcome.
>> >
>> > = Cheers,
>> > Med
>> >
>> = >
>> > -----Message d'origine-----
>> > De : = i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.o= rg
>> > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.o= rg] De la part de
>> > internet-drafts@ietf.org
= >> > Envoy=E9 : mercredi 20 mars 2013 16:36
>> > = =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org
>&g= t; > Objet : I-D Action: = draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt
>> >
>> = >
>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts
>> > directories.
>> = >
>> >
>> >         Title =           : Software-Defined Networking: A = Service
>> > Provider's Perspective
>> >   =       Author(s)       : Mohamed = Boucadair
>> >             =               Christian = Jacquenet
>> >         Filename   =      : draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach-00.txt
>> = >         Pages         =   : 13
>> >         Date   =          : 2013-03-20
>> = >
>> > Abstract:
>> >   =  Software-Defined Networking (SDN) has been one of the major = buzz
>> >    words of the networking industry for = the past couple of years.  And
>> >    yet, = no clear definition of what SDN actually covers has been = broadly
>> >    admitted so far.  This = document aims at contributing to the
>> >   =  clarification of the SDN landscape.
>> >
>> = >    It is not meant to endlessly discuss what SDN truly = means, but rather
>> >    to suggest a functional = taxonomy of the techniques that can be used
>> >   =  under a SDN umbrella and to elaborate on the various pending = issues
>> >    the combined activation of such = techniques inevitably raises.  As
>> >   =  such, a definition of SDN is only mentioned for the sake = of
>> >    clarification.
>> = >
>> >
>> > The IETF datatracker status page = for this draft is:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-ap= proach
>> >
>> > There's also a htmlized = version available at:
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sin-sdnrg-sdn-approach= -00
>> >
>> >
>> > = Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> > = ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>> = >
>> > = _______________________________________________
>> > = I-D-Announce mailing list
>> > I-D-Announce@ietf.org
>&g= t; > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce<= br>>> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
>> > = or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
>&g= t; > _______________________________________________
>> > = sdn mailing list
>> > sdn@irtf.org
>> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn
>&g= t; _______________________________________________
>> sdn = mailing list
>> sdn@irtf.org
>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn
>>
>
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