From nobody Thu Feb 4 08:27:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0136E1B3283; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:27:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.88 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.88 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kmdyZ2NK-DVh; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from roura.ac.upc.es (roura.ac.upc.edu [147.83.33.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166051B327F; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw-3.ac.upc.es (gw-3.ac.upc.es [147.83.30.9]) by roura.ac.upc.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u14GRHJZ004964; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:27:17 +0100 Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by gw-3.ac.upc.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ECFA7733; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:27:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id dx2so34335341lbd.3; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:27:16 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOT9oadD4DoIH3Zh6/oH4UHBFbl080olzSbJuAqoLZNamUwXtiHWRZ8KZneyc2ToPjad4MEvbbnA+wBHAw== X-Received: by 10.112.146.34 with SMTP id sz2mr3902872lbb.96.1454603236099; Thu, 04 Feb 2016 08:27:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.17.168 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:26:56 -0800 (PST) From: Alberto Rodriguez-Natal Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:26:56 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "lisp@ietf.org list" , nvo3@ietf.org, SDN IRTF list , nfvrg@irtf.org, sfc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a85c82d50dc052af43562 Archived-At: Subject: [Sdn] OpenOverlayRouter released! X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:27:23 -0000 --047d7b3a85c82d50dc052af43562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, We would like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - spelled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 License, to instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the former LISPmob.org code. * Who can use it * OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies with strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay solutions and researchers exploring new scenarios. * Supported protocols * OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols for both the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports NETCONF for provisioning and management and LISP for operational state exchange. On the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with LISP and VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, further encapsulations and support for SFC headers. * Code * You can find all the details and get the code at: http://openoverlayrouter.org/ Thanks! The OpenOverlayRouter team --047d7b3a85c82d50dc052af43562 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

We would like to announce the first release= of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - spelled "double-O-R"), an open-sourc= e project, under the Apache 2.0 License, to instantiate programmable overla= ys. OOR is edge-oriented and multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) wit= h the aim to offer a flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OO= R is based on the former LISPmob.org code.


* Who can use it *
OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies = with strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay solutions = and researchers exploring new scenarios.


* Supported protocols *=

OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protoco= ls for both the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports N= ETCONF for provisioning and management and LISP for operational state excha= nge. On the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with LISP and VX= LAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, further encapsula= tions and support for SFC headers.


* Code *

You can find = all the details and get the code at:
http://openoverlayrouter.org/


Thanks!
The OpenOver= layRouter team
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Thread-Index: AQHRX2j0avRNDVouIEKwOnMGpfvWQZ8dSGwAgACOLwA= Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 14:23:38 +0000 Message-ID: <4E7E7ADA-2647-4B00-9968-36981056E8B1@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.150.54.100] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D2B1ACA0-B6A0-45D5-8807-216672242AB5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: SDN IRTF list , "lisp@ietf.org list" , "sfc@ietf.org" , "nvo3@ietf.org" , "nfvrg@irtf.org" , Alberto Rodriguez-Natal Subject: Re: [Sdn] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 14:23:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D2B1ACA0-B6A0-45D5-8807-216672242AB5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_44D0ACB1-6E3A-4082-9799-4FAEC4135D3A" --Apple-Mail=_44D0ACB1-6E3A-4082-9799-4FAEC4135D3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sasha, It seems to me to be extremely relevant and very proper, as we want more = open source software connections with the IETF. https://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/2014.11.13_DWard-IETF-91.pdf = = https://www.internetsociety.org/publications/ietf-journal-march-2015/open-= standards-open-source-open-loop = =E2=80=9CWithin the IETF, we face numerous issues around our own life = cycle. [=E2=80=A6] What does the subject matter of popular, = network-centric OSS projects imply might be missing at the IETF?=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CHow to Make the IETF Relevant in this Environment =E2=80=A2 Fix, change, or reinvent the liaison process because it will = be critical to collaboration with OSS projects. In fact, don=E2=80=99t = even use the liaison process as a model. =E2=80=A2 Embrace Open Source projects.=E2=80=9D Thanks, =E2=80=94 Carlos. > On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexander Vainshtein = wrote: >=20 > Is this a proper kind of message on IETF mailing lists? >=20 >=20 > From: nvo3 > on = behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal > > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:26 PM > To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org = ; SDN IRTF list; nfvrg@irtf.org = ; sfc@ietf.org > Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > We would like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR = - spelled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 = License, to instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and = multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a = flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the = former LISPmob.org code. >=20 >=20 > * Who can use it * >=20 > OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies = with strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay = solutions and researchers exploring new scenarios. >=20 >=20 > * Supported protocols * >=20 > OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols = for both the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports = NETCONF for provisioning and management and LISP for operational state = exchange. On the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with = LISP and VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, = further encapsulations and support for SFC headers. >=20 >=20 > * Code * >=20 > You can find all the details and get the code at: > http://openoverlayrouter.org/ = >=20 >=20 > Thanks! > The OpenOverlayRouter team > _______________________________________________ > nvo3 mailing list > nvo3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 = --Apple-Mail=_44D0ACB1-6E3A-4082-9799-4FAEC4135D3A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Sasha,

It seems to me to be extremely relevant = and very proper, as we want more open source software connections with = the IETF.
https://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/2014.11.13_DWard-IETF-91.pdf
https://www.internetsociety.org/publications/ietf-journal-march= -2015/open-standards-open-source-open-loop

=E2=80=9CWithin the IETF, = we face numerous issues around our own life cycle. [=E2=80=A6] What = does the subject matter of popular, network-centric OSS projects = imply might be missing at the IETF?=E2=80=9D

=E2=80=9CHow to Make the IETF Relevant in this = Environment

=E2=80=A2 Fix, = change, or reinvent the liaison process because it will be critical to = collaboration with OSS projects. In fact, don=E2=80=99t even use = the liaison process as a model.
=E2=80=A2 Embrace Open Source projects.=E2=80=9D

Thanks,

=E2=80=94 = Carlos.


On = Feb 5, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:

Is this a proper kind of =  message on  IETF mailing lists?


From: nvo3 <nvo3-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Alberto = Rodriguez-Natal <arnatal@ac.upc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 = 6:26 PM
To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF = list; nfvrg@irtf.org; sfc@ietf.org
Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter = released!
 
Hi all,

We would = like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - spelled = "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 License, to = instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and = multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a = flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the = former LISPmob.org code.


* Who can use it *

OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, = companies with strong presence at the edge, startups interested in = overlay solutions and researchers exploring new scenarios.


* Supported protocols *

OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and = supports several protocols for both the data and control plane. On the = control plane, it supports NETCONF for provisioning and management and = LISP for operational state exchange. On the data plane, it supports IPv4 = and IPv6 overlays with LISP and VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap = includes L2 overlays, further encapsulations and support for SFC = headers.


* Code *

You can find all the details and get the code = at:
http://openoverlayrouter.org/


Thanks!
The OpenOverlayRouter = team
_______________________________________________
nvo3 mailing = list
nvo3@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3

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X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 05:54:50 -0000 --_000_DB3PR03MB0780DA2CE529B076DCBBD9379DD20DB3PR03MB0780eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is this a proper kind of message on IETF mailing lists? ________________________________ From: nvo3 on behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:26 PM To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF list; nfvrg@irtf.org; sfc@i= etf.org Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! Hi all, We would like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - spe= lled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 License, t= o instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and multiplatform= (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a flexible and easy-to-= deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the former LISPmob.org code. * Who can use it * OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies with = strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay solutions and r= esearchers exploring new scenarios. * Supported protocols * OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols for b= oth the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports NETCONF f= or provisioning and management and LISP for operational state exchange. On = the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with LISP and VXLAN-GPE = encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, further encapsulations an= d support for SFC headers. * Code * You can find all the details and get the code at: http://openoverlayrouter.org/ Thanks! 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From: nvo3 <nvo3-bounces= @ietf.org> on behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal <arnatal@ac.upc.edu&g= t;
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:26 PM
To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF list; nfvrg@irtf.org= ; sfc@ietf.org
Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released!
 
Hi all,

We would like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - spe= lled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 = License, to instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and mul= tiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR= is based on the former LISPmob.org code.


* Who can use it *

OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies with = strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay solutions and r= esearchers exploring new scenarios.


* Supported protocols *

OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols for b= oth the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports NETCONF f= or provisioning and management and LISP for operational state exchange. On = the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with LISP and VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap incl= udes L2 overlays, further encapsulations and support for SFC headers.


* Code *

You can find all the details and get the code at:
http://openoverlayrouter.org/


Thanks!
The OpenOverlayRouter team
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[98.248.50.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n4sm25704772pfi.3.2016.02.05.08.39.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Feb 2016 08:39:15 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6E8DDD13-52AD-4E5E-9F48-E8DB498832FB Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Sharon X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13D15) In-Reply-To: <4AF73AA205019A4C8A1DDD32C034631D2E26DF2A78@NJFPSRVEXG0.research.att.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 08:39:13 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8C368751-8559-414E-AA92-CBC0B32766A0@gmail.com> References: <4E7E7ADA-2647-4B00-9968-36981056E8B1@cisco.com> <4AF73AA205019A4C8A1DDD32C034631D2E26DF2A78@NJFPSRVEXG0.research.att.com> To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" Archived-At: Cc: "Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)" , Alexander Vainshtein , SDN IRTF list , "lisp@ietf.org list" , "sfc@ietf.org" , "nvo3@ietf.org" , "nfvrg@irtf.org" , Alberto Rodriguez-Natal Subject: Re: [Sdn] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:39:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-6E8DDD13-52AD-4E5E-9F48-E8DB498832FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ++ Overlays probably the most sustainable artifact of network virtualization tr= end. Good to distill distinct overlay notions into practical code base combining t= hem. Further build from there in parallel to formal interface standardization. --szb > On Feb 5, 2016, at 6:53 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) wrote= : >=20 > +1 Carlos, and Running Code has *always* been of interest here. > Al > =20 > From: Nfvrg [mailto:nfvrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (= cpignata) > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:24 AM > To: Alexander Vainshtein > Cc: SDN IRTF list; lisp@ietf.org list; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; nfvrg@= irtf.org; Alberto Rodriguez-Natal > Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! > =20 > Sasha, > =20 > It seems to me to be extremely relevant and very proper, as we want more o= pen source software connections with the IETF. > https://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/2014.11.13_DWard-IETF-91.pdf > https://www.internetsociety.org/publications/ietf-journal-march-2015/open-= standards-open-source-open-loop > =20 > =E2=80=9CWithin the IETF, we face numerous issues around our own life cycl= e. [=E2=80=A6] What does the subject matter of popular, network-centric OSS p= rojects imply might be missing at the IETF?=E2=80=9D > =20 > =E2=80=9CHow to Make the IETF Relevant in this Environment > =20 > =E2=80=A2 Fix, change, or reinvent the liaison process because it will be c= ritical to collaboration with OSS projects. In fact, don=E2=80=99t even use t= he liaison process as a model. > =E2=80=A2 Embrace Open Source projects.=E2=80=9D > =20 > Thanks, > =20 > =E2=80=94 Carlos. > =20 > =20 > On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > =20 > Is this a proper kind of message on IETF mailing lists? > =20 >=20 > From: nvo3 on behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:26 PM > To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF list; nfvrg@irtf.org; sfc@= ietf.org > Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! > =20 > Hi all, >=20 > We would like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - sp= elled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 License, t= o instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and multiplatform (= Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a flexible and easy-to-dep= loy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the former LISPmob.org code. >=20 >=20 > * Who can use it * >=20 > OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies with= strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay solutions and r= esearchers exploring new scenarios. >=20 >=20 > * Supported protocols * >=20 > OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols for b= oth the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports NETCONF fo= r provisioning and management and LISP for operational state exchange. On th= e data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with LISP and VXLAN-GPE enc= apsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, further encapsulations and su= pport for SFC headers. >=20 >=20 > * Code * >=20 > You can find all the details and get the code at: > http://openoverlayrouter.org/ >=20 >=20 > Thanks! > The OpenOverlayRouter team > _______________________________________________ > nvo3 mailing list > nvo3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > nvo3 mailing list > nvo3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 --Apple-Mail-6E8DDD13-52AD-4E5E-9F48-E8DB498832FB Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
++
Overlays probably the most sustainable artifact of network virtualization t= rend.
Good to distill distinct overlay n= otions into practical code base combining them.
Further build from there in parallel to formal interface standardiza= tion.


--szb

On Feb= 5, 2016, at 6:53 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmorton@att.com> wrote:

+1 Carlos, and Running Code has *always* been of intere= st here.

Al

 

From: Nfvrg [= mailto:nfvrg-bounces@irtf.org]= On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Friday, Feb= ruary 05, 2016 9:24 AM
To: Alexander Vainshtein
Cc: SDN I= RTF list; lisp@ietf.org list; sfc@ietf.org; nvo= 3@ietf.org; nfvrg@irtf.org; Albert= o Rodriguez-Natal
Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter re= leased!

 <= /o:p>

Sasha,

 

It se= ems to me to be extremely relevant and very proper, as we want more open sou= rce software connections with the IETF.

 

=E2= =80=9CWithin the IETF, we face numerous issues around our own life cycle. [=E2= =80=A6] What does the subject matter of popular, network-centric O= SS projects imply might be missing at the IETF?=E2=80=9D=

 

=E2=80=9CHow to Make the IETF Relevant in this Environme= nt

 

=

=E2=80=A2 Fix, change, or reinvent the l= iaison process because it will be critical to collaboration with OSS project= s. In fact, don=E2=80=99t even use the liaison process as a model.<= o:p>

=E2=80=A2 Embrace Open So= urce projects.=E2=80=9D

=  

Thanks,

 

=E2=80=94 Carlos.

 

 

On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:

 

 

From: nvo3 <nv= o3-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal <arnatal@ac.upc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6= :26 PM
To: lisp@ietf.org list; = nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF list; n= fvrg@irtf.org; sfc@ietf.org
Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released!=

 =

Hi all,

We would like to announce the first release of Ope= nOverlayRouter (OOR - spelled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under t= he Apache 2.0 License, to instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-ori= ented and multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a= flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the for= mer LISPmob.org = code.


* Who can use it *

OOR is intended for end-users loo= king for easy multihoming, companies with strong presence at the edge, start= ups interested in overlay solutions and researchers exploring new scenarios.=


* Supported protocols *

OOR is interoperable with OpenDay= light and supports several protocols for both the data and control plane. On= the control plane, it supports NETCONF for provisioning and management and L= ISP for operational state exchange. On the data plane, it supports IPv4 and I= Pv6 overlays with LISP and VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2= overlays, further encapsulations and support for SFC headers.


* C= ode *

You can find all the details and get the code at:
http:= //openoverlayrouter.org/


Thanks!
The OpenOverlayRouter tea= m

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nvo3@ietf.org
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= --Apple-Mail-6E8DDD13-52AD-4E5E-9F48-E8DB498832FB-- From nobody Sun Feb 7 16:42:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C1E1A871F; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:41:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.257 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.257 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX=2.845, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YomV5-5ZDtkv; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (unknown [50.245.122.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C7091A8712; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 16:41:52 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=74.43.47.30; From: "Susan Hares" To: "'MORTON, ALFRED C \(AL\)'" , "'Carlos Pignataro \(cpignata\)'" , "'Alexander Vainshtein'" References: <4E7E7ADA-2647-4B00-9968-36981056E8B1@cisco.com> <4AF73AA205019A4C8A1DDD32C034631D2E26DF2A78@NJFPSRVEXG0.research.att.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF73AA205019A4C8A1DDD32C034631D2E26DF2A78@NJFPSRVEXG0.research.att.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 19:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <00d601d16209$7a235a60$6e6a0f20$@ndzh.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D7_01D161DF.91505FA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQEa13StjE5LHmI2LycE7tADVdmQWwJuieFbAe3+c14CVq6ciqBYyiYA Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Cc: 'SDN IRTF list' , lisp@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org, nvo3@ietf.org, nfvrg@irtf.org, 'Alberto Rodriguez-Natal' Subject: Re: [Sdn] [sfc] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 00:41:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01D161DF.91505FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 to Al and Carlos. Running code has and should be of interest in = IETF.=20 =20 Sue=20 =20 From: sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of MORTON, ALFRED C = (AL) Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:53 AM To: Carlos Pignataro (cpignata); Alexander Vainshtein Cc: SDN IRTF list; lisp@ietf.org list; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; = nfvrg@irtf.org; Alberto Rodriguez-Natal Subject: Re: [sfc] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! =20 +1 Carlos, and Running Code has *always* been of interest here. Al =20 From: Nfvrg [mailto:nfvrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos = Pignataro (cpignata) Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:24 AM To: Alexander Vainshtein Cc: SDN IRTF list; lisp@ietf.org list; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; = nfvrg@irtf.org; Alberto Rodriguez-Natal Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! =20 Sasha, =20 It seems to me to be extremely relevant and very proper, as we want more = open source software connections with the IETF. https://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/2014.11.13_DWard-IETF-91.pdf https://www.internetsociety.org/publications/ietf-journal-march-2015/open= -standards-open-source-open-loop =20 =E2=80=9CWithin the IETF, we face numerous issues around our own life = cycle. [=E2=80=A6] What does the subject matter of popular, = network-centric OSS projects imply might be missing at the = IETF?=E2=80=9D =20 =E2=80=9CHow to Make the IETF Relevant in this Environment =20 =E2=80=A2 Fix, change, or reinvent the liaison process because it will = be critical to collaboration with OSS projects. In fact, don=E2=80=99t = even use the liaison process as a model. =E2=80=A2 Embrace Open Source projects.=E2=80=9D =20 Thanks, =20 =E2=80=94 Carlos. =20 =20 On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexander Vainshtein = wrote: =20 Is this a proper kind of message on IETF mailing lists? =20 _____ =20 From: nvo3 on behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal = Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 6:26 PM To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF list; nfvrg@irtf.org; = sfc@ietf.org Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter released! =20 Hi all, We would like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - = spelled "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 = License, to instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and = multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a = flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the = former LISPmob.org code. * Who can use it * OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy multihoming, companies = with strong presence at the edge, startups interested in overlay = solutions and researchers exploring new scenarios. * Supported protocols * OOR is interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols = for both the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports = NETCONF for provisioning and management and LISP for operational state = exchange. On the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with = LISP and VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, = further encapsulations and support for SFC headers. * Code * You can find all the details and get the code at: http://openoverlayrouter.org/ = = Thanks! The OpenOverlayRouter team _______________________________________________ nvo3 mailing list nvo3@ietf.org = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nvo3 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01D161DF.91505FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

+1 to Al and Carlos.=C2=A0 Running code has and should be of interest = in IETF.

 

Sue

 

From:= = sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of MORTON, ALFRED C = (AL)
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 9:53 AM
To: = Carlos Pignataro (cpignata); Alexander Vainshtein
Cc: SDN IRTF = list; lisp@ietf.org list; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; nfvrg@irtf.org; = Alberto Rodriguez-Natal
Subject: Re: [sfc] [nvo3] = OpenOverlayRouter released!

 

+1 = Carlos, and Running Code has *always* been of interest = here.

Al

 

From:= = Nfvrg [mailto:nfvrg-bounces@irtf.org]= On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Friday, = February 05, 2016 9:24 AM
To: Alexander = Vainshtein
Cc: SDN IRTF list; lisp@ietf.org list; sfc@ietf.org; nvo3@ietf.org; nfvrg@irtf.org; Alberto = Rodriguez-Natal
Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter = released!

 

Sasha,

 

It seems to me to be extremely relevant and very = proper, as we want more open source software connections with the = IETF.

 

=E2=80=9CWithin the IETF, we face numerous issues = around our own life cycle. [=E2=80=A6] What does the subject = matter of popular, network-centric OSS projects imply might be = missing at the IETF?=E2=80=9D

 

=E2=80=9CHow to Make the IETF Relevant in this = Environment

 

=E2=80=A2 Fix, change, or reinvent the liaison = process because it will be critical to collaboration with OSS = projects. In fact, don=E2=80=99t even use the liaison process as a = model.

=E2=80=A2 = Embrace Open Source projects.=E2=80=9D

 

Thanks,

 

=E2=80=94 Carlos.

 

 

On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Alexander Vainshtein = <Alexander.Vainshtein@eci= tele.com> wrote:

 

Is this a proper kind of  message on =  IETF mailing lists?

 

From: nvo3 = <nvo3-bounces@ietf.org> on = behalf of Alberto Rodriguez-Natal <arnatal@ac.upc.edu>
Sent:=  Thursday, February = 4, 2016 6:26 PM
To: lisp@ietf.org list; nvo3@ietf.org; SDN IRTF list; nfvrg@irtf.org; sfc@ietf.org
Subject: [nvo3] OpenOverlayRouter = released!

 

Hi all,

We would = like to announce the first release of OpenOverlayRouter (OOR - spelled = "double-O-R"), an open-source project, under the Apache 2.0 = License, to instantiate programmable overlays. OOR is edge-oriented and = multiplatform (Android, Linux and OpenWRT) with the aim to offer a = flexible and easy-to-deploy overlay infrastructure. OOR is based on the = former LISPmob.org code.


* Who can = use it *

OOR is intended for end-users looking for easy = multihoming, companies with strong presence at the edge, startups = interested in overlay solutions and researchers exploring new = scenarios.


* Supported protocols *

OOR is = interoperable with OpenDaylight and supports several protocols for both = the data and control plane. On the control plane, it supports NETCONF = for provisioning and management and LISP for operational state exchange. = On the data plane, it supports IPv4 and IPv6 overlays with LISP and = VXLAN-GPE encapsulations. The roadmap includes L2 overlays, further = encapsulations and support for SFC headers.


* Code = *

You can find all the details and get the code at:
http://openoverlayrouter.org/


Thanks!
The = OpenOverlayRouter team

__________= _____________________________________
nvo3 mailing list
nvo3@ietf.= org
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Cheers, Will (Shucheng LIU) From: Liushucheng (Will) Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:49 AM To: tccc-announce@COMSOC.ORG Subject: CFP: IEEE Wireless Communications - ARCHITECTURE FOR NEXT GENERATI= ON WIRELESS NETWORKS: SCALABILITY, FLEXIBILITY, AND INTEROPERABILITY IEEE Wireless Communications - ARCHITECTURE FOR NEXT GENERATION WIRELESS NE= TWORKS: SCALABILITY, FLEXIBILITY, AND INTEROPERABILITY http://www.comsoc.org/wirelessmag/cfp/architecture-next-generation-wireless= -networks-scalability-flexibility-and-interoperability CALL FOR PAPERS Over the past decade, we have witnessed the tremendous growth in the number= of networked wireless devices, in the types of wireless and mobile applica= tions, and in the total amount of traffic from and towards these devices. I= n the foreseeable future, it is expected that such a trend will continue wi= th an unprecedented increasing rate. For instance, with the recent deployme= nt of the fourth-generation (4G) cellular network, mobile data traffic rate= over cellular networks had exceeded 2 Exabytes per month world-wide by the= end of 2014. Recent studies also suggest that the mobile traffic rate coul= d be increased 10-fold by 2019. Besides the ever-increasing mobile applicat= ions over cellular networks, many other wireless applications are emerging,= including smart grid, vehicular ad hoc network (VANET), cyber-physical sys= tem (CPS), and more generally, Internet of Things (IoT). Clearly, to accomm= odate the fast growing demands, future wireless networks must be scalable. For the aforementioned existing and emerging wireless applications, it has = been well-known that they have diverse quality-of-service (QoS) requirement= s: from low data rate IoT monitoring applications to high data rate content= streaming applications, from delay sensitive real-time monitoring in smart= grid and safety control in vehicular CPS to delay-tolerant IoT application= s. Therefore, it has been very challenging to design and develop practical = wireless networks and systems to facilitate different application demands e= fficiently. To address these challenges, researchers and developers in both= academia and industry have put significant efforts to design various wirel= ess networks. For example, in the past few years, the architecture of the f= ifth-generation (5G) cellular network has attracted significant attention, = several future Internet architectures (FIAs) have also been proposed and in= vestigated, and various architectures have been developed for smart grid, V= ANET, IoT, etc. Naturally, it becomes very important to investigate two iss= ues: first, how we can flexibly deploy or configure a specific type of wire= less network, and secondly, if we have multiple co-existing wireless networ= ks, how we can enable the interoperation among them. In the literature, the importance of scalability, flexibility, and interope= rability has been recognized and there are some existing studies already. H= owever, despite the importance of these efforts, there are still many chall= enging issues to be addressed. For example, how to effectively accommodate = more than 1 trillion networked devices world-wide in the next 10 years? 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The special issue covers topics tha= t include, but are not limited to, the following: * Architecture for large-scale Internet of Things (IoT) * Flexible architecture for applications with diverse data rates * Flexible architecture for systems and applications with diverse mob= ility requirements * Flexible cognitive radio and spectrum access * Interoperability between future Internet and wireless networks * Interoperability among diverse wireless networks * Namespace management in heterogeneous wireless networks * Routing in large-scale multihop wireless network * Security design on wireless scalability, flexibility, and interoper= ability * Scalable cooperative communications and network coding * Scalable data-centric wireless network architecture * Scalable energy efficiency wireless network * Scalable social-aware wireless network architecture * Standards for scalable, flexible, and interoperable wireless networ= ks * Wireless network for large-scale cyber-physical-system SUBMISSIONS Authors must follow the IEEE Wireless Communicationsguidelines regarding ma= nuscript content and format. For details, please refer to the "Author Guide= lines" at the IEEE Wireless Communications Web site athttp://www.comsoc.org= /wirelessmag/author-guidelines. All papers must be submitted electronically= via the IEEE Wireless Communications manuscript submission system athttp:/= /mc.manuscriptcentral.com/ieee-wcm. All papers will be reviewed by at least= three (3) reviewers for their technical merit, scope, and relevance to the= CFP. IMPORTANT DATES * Manuscript Submission: May 1, 2016 * Notification of Acceptance: July 1, 2016 * Revised Manuscript Due: August 1, 2016 * Final Decision: September 1, 2016 * Final Manuscript Due: October 1, 2016 * Publication: December 2016 Regards, Will (Shucheng LIU) --_000_C9B5F12337F6F841B35C404CF0554ACB896790CESZXEMA509MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

&n= bsp;

Sorry i= f you received duplicated msgs regarding to this CFP below.

&n= bsp;

Cheers,=

Will (S= hucheng LIU)

&n= bsp;

From: L= iushucheng (Will)
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:49 AM
To: tccc-announce@COMSOC.ORG
Subject: CFP: IEEE Wireless Communications - ARCHITECTURE FOR NEXT G= ENERATION WIRELESS NETWORKS: SCALABILITY, FLEXIBILITY, AND INTEROPERABILITY=

 

IEEE Wireless Communications - A= RCHITECTURE FOR NEXT GENERATION WIRELESS NETWORKS: SCALABILITY, FLEXIBILITY= , AND INTEROPERABILITY

http://www.comsoc.org/wirelessmag/cfp= /architecture-next-generation-wireless-networks-scalability-flexibility-and= -interoperability

 

CALL FOR PAPERS

Over the past decade, we have witnessed the tremendo= us growth in the number of networked wireless devices, in the types of wire= less and mobile applications, and in the total amount of traffic from and towards these devices. In the foreseeable future, it is e= xpected that such a trend will continue with an unprecedented increasing ra= te. For instance, with the recent deployment of the fourth-generation (4G) = cellular network, mobile data traffic rate over cellular networks had exceeded 2 Exabytes per month world-wide b= y the end of 2014. Recent studies also suggest that the mobile traffic rate= could be increased 10-fold by 2019. Besides the ever-increasing mobile app= lications over cellular networks, many other wireless applications are emerging, including smart grid, vehic= ular ad hoc network (VANET), cyber-physical system (CPS), and more generall= y, Internet of Things (IoT). Clearly, to accommodate the fast growing deman= ds, future wireless networks must be scalable.

For the aforementioned existing and emerging wireles= s applications, it has been well-known that they have diverse quality-of-se= rvice (QoS) requirements: from low data rate IoT monitoring applications to high data rate content streaming applications, from delay = sensitive real-time monitoring in smart grid and safety control in vehicula= r CPS to delay-tolerant IoT applications. Therefore, it has been very chall= enging to design and develop practical wireless networks and systems to facilitate different application demands = efficiently. To address these challenges, researchers and developers in bot= h academia and industry have put significant efforts to design various wire= less networks. For example, in the past few years, the architecture of the fifth-generation (5G) cellular net= work has attracted significant attention, several future Internet architect= ures (FIAs) have also been proposed and investigated, and various architect= ures have been developed for smart grid, VANET, IoT, etc. Naturally, it becomes very important to investigate= two issues: first, how we can flexibly deploy or configure a specific type= of wireless network, and secondly, if we have multiple co-existing wireles= s networks, how we can enable the interoperation among them.

In the literature, the importance of scalability, fl= exibility, and interoperability has been recognized and there are some exis= ting studies already. However, despite the importance of these efforts, there are still many challenging issues to be addressed. Fo= r example, how to effectively accommodate more than 1 trillion networked de= vices world-wide in the next 10 years? How to efficiently provision service= s in future wireless networks such that a given system can be flexibly programmed to optimize the performance= of certain applications? How to facilitate the interoperation of heterogen= eous wireless networks and systems? To understand and solve these key issue= s, we organize this special issue in IEEE Wireless Communications Magazine focusing on the scalability, flex= ibility, and interoperability in the design of architecture for future wire= less networks. The special issue covers topics that include, but are not li= mited to, the following:

·  &n= bsp;    Architecture for large-scale Internet of Things (I= oT)

·  &n= bsp;    Flexible architecture for applications with divers= e data rates

·  &n= bsp;    Flexible architecture for systems and applications= with diverse mobility requirements

·  &n= bsp;    Flexible cognitive radio and spectrum access<= /o:p>

·  &n= bsp;    Interoperability between future Internet and wirel= ess networks

·  &n= bsp;    Interoperability among diverse wireless networks

·  &n= bsp;    Namespace management in heterogeneous wireless net= works

·  &n= bsp;    Routing in large-scale multihop wireless network

·  &n= bsp;    Security design on wireless scalability, flexibili= ty, and interoperability

·  &n= bsp;    Scalable cooperative communications and network co= ding

·  &n= bsp;    Scalable data-centric wireless network architectur= e

·  &n= bsp;    Scalable energy efficiency wireless network

·  &n= bsp;    Scalable social-aware wireless network architectur= e

·  &n= bsp;    Standards for scalable, flexible, and interoperabl= e wireless networks

·  &n= bsp;    Wireless network for large-scale cyber-physical-sy= stem

SUBMISSIONS

Authors must follow the IEEE Wireless Communicationsguid= elines regarding manuscript content and format. For details, please refer to the “Author Guidelines” at the IEEE Wireless Communic= ations Web site athttp://www.comsoc.org/wirelessmag/author-guidelines. All papers must be submitted electronically via the IEEE Wireless Communic= ations manuscript submission system athttp://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/ieee-wcm. All papers will be reviewed by at least three (3) reviewers for their tech= nical merit, scope, and relevance to the CFP.

IMPORTANT DATES=

·  &n= bsp;    Manusc= ript Submission: May 1, 2016

·  &n= bsp;    Notifi= cation of Acceptance: July 1, 2016

·  &n= bsp;    Revise= d Manuscript Due: August 1, 2016

·  &n= bsp;    Final = Decision: September 1, 2016

·  &n= bsp;    Final = Manuscript Due: October 1, 2016

·  &n= bsp;    Public= ation: December 2016

 

 

Regards,

Will (Shucheng LIU)

 

--_000_C9B5F12337F6F841B35C404CF0554ACB896790CESZXEMA509MBSchi_-- From nobody Mon Feb 15 05:26:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460F61A873D for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 05:26:36 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BANNED, message contains application/ms-tnef, .tnef, winmail.dat X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.721 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.721 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fi4PpQsxLKmz for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 05:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sideburn.lancs.ac.uk (sideburn.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.17.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8881A0196 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 05:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex-0-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.47] helo=EX-0-HT0.lancs.local) by sideburn.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aVJAc-0003Ab-5K for sdn@irtf.org; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:30 +0000 Received: from EX-0-MB2.lancs.local ([fe80::9d98:936b:54d1:c531]) by EX-0-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::7d10:114a:53b0:7f2f%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:30 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_000_65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36EX0MB2lancsloca_" From: "King, Daniel" To: "'sdn@irtf.org'" Thread-Topic: Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Thread-Index: AdFn9DuIUo0PwqaFQ9eTuQrCJfr6Yw== Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:29 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> x-originating-ip: [81.129.181.42] x-iss-local-domain: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" Subject: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:36 -0000 --_000_65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36EX0MB2lancsloca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings SDN Researchers,=20 At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered Archit= ecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their document:= =20 o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/procee= dings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-c= ontreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated with acco= mpanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, or indeed = not. 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<65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:43:36 +0100 Message-Id: <46667D3C-70DA-429E-BB65-3C5EC7BC6FF8@um.es> References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> To: "King, Daniel" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" , "sdn@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:43:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B07B3FC5-F01B-4F73-9474-6F48ADC3581E Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C3CB0B28-CABE-4054-B478-F5D8FE26B6B3" --Apple-Mail=_C3CB0B28-CABE-4054-B478-F5D8FE26B6B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, > El 15 feb 2016, a las 14:26, King, Daniel = escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > Greetings SDN Researchers, >=20 > At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered = Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their = document: >=20 > o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - = https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf > o The current version of the document - = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 >=20 > We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but = specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" response be = substantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document = should be adopted, or indeed not. >=20 The draft describes a SDN layered architecture based on different strata = for both service and data transport layers. Service controllers and Transport controllers need to coexist and = collaborate among them. This draft defines the framework for this collaboration. It is also aligned with the ONF framework. So I support the adoption of this draft. Some additional comments: Section 1. - "which functionality is supposed to perform traffic forwarding = (only)". The "(only)" statement may confuse the readers. If authors try to make emphasis in a special behaviour here it = should be mentioned more clearly, or to add some reference. Section 3. - the concept of "external service" has not been introduced - Paragraphs 5 and 6 are difficult to read due to the (mix)-use of the = terms "layers", "blocks", "stratum" and "planes". - Figure 1: - communication API/channel between Transport Stratum and Service = Stratum should be labelled. - s/Resource Pl./Resource Plane/resource plane (according to the = text). Idem for Control Pl. and Mngmt Pl. - In line with the previous paragraphs, would this sentence "There is a = hierarchy in which the Service SDN controller requests transport capabilities to the Transport SDN controller." be = expressed in a best way as "There is a hierarchy in which Service SDN controller(s) request(s) transport capabilities to = the Transport SDN controller(s)." ?? (idem about the next sentence) - "The Service SDN controller acts as a client of the Transport SDN controller." =46rom the previous paragraphs it seems more like a = peer-to-peer relationship rather than a client-to-server one. - the concept of "external application" has not been introduced. - "This document does assume that SDN techniques can be enabled jointly with other distributed means (e.g., IGP)". Please, could you = elaborate this statement. Section 5. - "The communication between controllers should be also secure, preventing denial of service." It should prevent any kind of secure = threat, not only denial of service. > Kind Regards, > Dan & Kohei > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn ----------------------------------------------------------- Gabriel L=C3=B3pez Mill=C3=A1n Departamento de Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Informaci=C3=B3n y las = Comunicaciones University of Murcia Spain Tel: +34 868888504 Fax: +34 868884151 email: gabilm@um.es --Apple-Mail=_C3CB0B28-CABE-4054-B478-F5D8FE26B6B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi,


El = 15 feb 2016, a las 14:26, King, Daniel <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk> escribi=C3=B3:

Greetings SDN Researchers,

At = IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered = Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their = document:

o If you missed their = presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pd= f
o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-0= 4

We would like to open a two-week = adoption call the document, but specifically ask that a "support" or "no = support" response be substantiated with accompanying comments discussing = why the document should be adopted, or indeed not.



The draft describes a SDN layered = architecture based on different strata for both service and data = transport layers. 
Service controllers and Transport = controllers need to coexist and collaborate among them. This draft = defines the framework for
this collaboration. It is also = aligned with the ONF framework. 

So I support the adoption of this = draft.

Some additional = comments:

Section = 1. 

- "which functionality is = supposed to perform traffic forwarding (only)". The "(only)" statement = may confuse the 
readers. If authors try to make emphasis = in a special behaviour here it should be mentioned more clearly, or to = add some reference.


  
Section 3.

- the concept of "external service" has not been = introduced

- Paragraphs 5 and 6 are = difficult to read due to the (mix)-use of the terms "layers", "blocks", = "stratum" and "planes".

- Figure = 1: 
    - communication API/channel between = Transport Stratum and Service Stratum should be = labelled. 
    - s/Resource Pl./Resource = Plane/resource plane (according to the text). Idem for Control Pl. and = Mngmt Pl.

- In line with the = previous paragraphs, would this sentence "There is a hierarchy in which = the Service SDN controller
   requests transport = capabilities to the Transport SDN controller." be expressed in a best = way as "There is a hierarchy in 
   which = Service SDN controller(s) request(s) transport capabilities to the = Transport SDN controller(s)." ?? (idem about the next = sentence)

- "The Service SDN = controller acts as a client of the Transport SDN
  =  controller." =46rom the previous paragraphs it seems more like a = peer-to-peer relationship rather than a client-to-server = one.
   
   
- the = concept of "external application" has not been introduced.

-  "This document does assume that SDN = techniques can be enabled jointly
   with other = distributed means (e.g., IGP)". Please, could you elaborate this = statement.
   

Section 5.

 
   
- =  "The communication between controllers should be also = secure,
   preventing denial of service." It should = prevent any kind of secure threat, not only denial of = service.


Kind Regards, =
Dan & Kohei
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University of Murcia
Spain
Tel: = +34 868888504
Fax: +34 868884151
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And let me add that some of the ideas that were originally proposed in this= document were incorporated to the discussions between ONF and ETSI NFV on = the relationship between SDN and NFV. Be goode, On 15 Feb 2016, at 13:26 , King, Daniel > wrote: Greetings SDN Researchers, At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered Archit= ecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their document: o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/procee= dings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-c= ontreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated with acco= mpanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, or indeed = not. 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And let me add that some of the ideas that were originally = proposed in this document were incorporated to the discussions between ONF = and ETSI NFV on the relationship between SDN and NFV.

Be goode,

On 15 Feb 2016, at 13:26 , King, Daniel <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:=

Greetings SDN Researchers,

At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered A= rchitecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their = document:

o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf
o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04

We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be sub= stantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document should be= adopted, or indeed not.

Kind Regards,
Dan & Kohei
_______________________________________________
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 --_000_345A1FFE591F4BA5B79FBE42142DA219telefonicacom_-- From nobody Fri Feb 19 08:15:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2491B2DE0 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:15:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.207 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.207 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.999, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RKSKMIq9purl for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19A9D1B2D02 for ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfweml704-chm.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CWA23701; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:14:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from DFWEML706-CHM.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.225]) by dfweml704-chm ([10.193.5.141]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:14:52 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "King, Daniel" , "'sdn@irtf.org'" Thread-Topic: Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Thread-Index: AdFn9DuIUo0PwqaFQ9eTuQrCJfr6YwDPGRUA Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:14:51 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E1729D59E98@dfweml706-chm> References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> In-Reply-To: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.46.50.210] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0206.56C73F85.017E, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 051089ce65385cd5b4e0516f20679c8c Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:11 -0000 Support, Young -----Original Message----- From: sdn [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of King, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 7:26 AM To: 'sdn@irtf.org' Cc: shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Greetings SDN Researchers,=20 At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered Archit= ecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their document:= =20 o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/procee= dings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-c= ontreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated with acco= mpanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, or indeed = not. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <799ADEF4D4AFBC4081DA1EE030F557EF@namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 21 Feb 2016 17:43:05.3437 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR0501MB1612 Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 17:43:32 -0000 Dan, Support It contributes to abstraction in the context of SDN. In IETF https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-interconnected-te-info-ex change/ discusses such abstraction for the purpose of Traffic Engineering but doesn=B9t deal with the service. Also aspects like QoS have not been tackled there. Going forward, the aspect of transport attached services would need to be worked out more explicitly to harden the abstraction. 1) A DSL service is attached to a particular copper cable that cannot be virtualised. Moving a home Gateway to another DSL Line wouldn=B9t provide a service. So the transport is an essential part of the service. 2) For a Mobile service, one can move a SIM card between devices (even if not owned by the same person) and get a service. Whether this service is the same between devices however depends on the Mobile phone capabilities. Here the SIM-HW is part of the service, but the transport (Mobile) is not. 3) A VoIP service can be made available on practically any device connected by any transport to the internet, but access to that service may be limited by firewall policies and alike. Here no HW is part of the service but transport influences the quality. So linking transport related information with service related information in an efficient and abstracted manner is indeed an issue and worth to look at. A collaborative architecture seems to be a good sarting point. Gert On 2016-15-02 14:26, "sdn on behalf of King, Daniel" wrote: >Greetings SDN Researchers, > >At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered >Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their >document: > >o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - >https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf >o The current version of the document - >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 > >We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but >specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" response be >substantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document >should be adopted, or indeed not. > >Kind Regards, >Dan & Kohei From nobody Sun Feb 21 23:02:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EA81B35DE for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:02:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id URW89L6sUj2Z for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D959F1B35E4 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id a4so148471859wme.1 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:02:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KRS3EFtEZ1Iy+S1/AI5T/5pEwlDuiXzF7Zr/UVUTvdc=; b=n2G6B54rR5+y6H22QP/QmoON5FS/lK+rbvLIjyOCtHx/qegjs399MUw+dPwwOJwpzO uvStKuXJUy6ijJNgoeK0ZWy2AfaH1YxkQYpBvSGlrDiOkUmPQePfdK2+/3YaIGMII82j uEcavSmAJxHMbYuY5Hl0TQ1y8WpAP+oQ2AFzqz1z8NT42APa/WhWLsyoO7KRvUsqklFW iMeDLosP8kyhhLVrALxepOT3y/lhKVLcQvs1tNLT2NbYDnUmcGsX/xu8P9NCDdSJJc8j 7EtNLzS82+qsjbRI7CqnqcpadVtKNRWKweGx3bMlOc60tEI4BkcyUd7/noTXawv0enLD 5uuw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KRS3EFtEZ1Iy+S1/AI5T/5pEwlDuiXzF7Zr/UVUTvdc=; b=GSTZACLmluFfrhTQIMce0jiZOJmIti2Ht9tHm89x937dEKDb4kMK7Ec7waA0UsQqyB VJNwIY5K0rWNcCvx9TBmdK+Uwj9w4S8NU8pflmYQUpoA53SWwo6cr3nBLXmr9j8UGY5S GCPOTXk4nGtapDJxBdYMlH2IFoE0vBP1ngDa9VsBRIpRSij0YER9JI+QAjh0Te7xFOiX nxKjJM1W68Dm4zyciEpQYBIJGcLL/LSaCONjRCXt9cWX8QJKs9NbsSfc1WoBZlSAkhvV lt1XHKG5tRiqIoVER7x1Qlr/QvNgKB1+IRNHWKRzRQgwzGZDL6VUZBSdtUvMoUVa7rbe ojlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORkACl3VhbHk38R27cLcKOZnKYmV0ldfLkjV7tlJPg9b7pmOX+/GPUFWkKUZ3AihTbMdkEp87jQcdVszg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.179.168 with SMTP id dh8mr8222708wjc.130.1456124535495; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.113.152 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:02:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ricard Vilalta To: "King, Daniel" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0102e974afeac1052c566973 Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" , "sdn@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:02:18 -0000 --089e0102e974afeac1052c566973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Support. Ricard Vilalta (CTTC) On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:26 PM, King, Daniel wrote: > Greetings SDN Researchers, > > At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered > Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their > document: > > o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf > o The current version of the document - > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 > > We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but > specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated > with accompanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, > or indeed not. > > Kind Regards, > Dan & Kohei > > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > --089e0102e974afeac1052c566973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support.

Ricard Vilalta (CTTC)

On Mon, Feb 15= , 2016 at 2:26 PM, King, Daniel <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
Greetings SDN Researchers,

At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered A= rchitecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their = document:

o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pd= f
o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04
We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be sub= stantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document should be= adopted, or indeed not.

Kind Regards,
Dan & Kohei

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--089e0102e974afeac1052c566973-- From nobody Sun Feb 21 23:51:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2081A710D for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:51:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.905 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.905 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fp3d2R2Wv9yJ for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-nor35.orange.com [80.12.70.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A9CAF1A7025 for ; Sun, 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In-Reply-To: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:51:54 -0000 Dear chairs, all, I support the adoption of the document.=20 Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: sdn [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] De la part de King, Daniel > Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 15 f=E9vrier 2016 14:26 > =C0=A0: 'sdn@irtf.org' > Cc=A0: shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp > Objet=A0: [Sdn] Poll for RG 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for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:11:52 -0000 --001a1148d9feb60cc4052c609a00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi SDNRG-ers I also support the adoption of this document. IMHO, it'd be a great addition to the I-D to have it addressing - specific challenges for implementing different control actions/scope between Transport & Service layer. - relationships with other WG/RG, in particular ACTN for Transport stratum - options for using the same architecture pattern recursively across the various layers br Gino On 22 February 2016 at 09:49, wrote: > Hello WG, > > > > I too support the adoption of draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn as a sdnrg > WG document. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Christian. > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:26 PM, King, Daniel > wrote: > > Greetings SDN Researchers, > > At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered > Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their > document: > > o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf > o The current version of the document - > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 > > We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but > specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated > with accompanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, > or indeed not. > > Kind Regards, > Dan & Kohei > > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Hi SDNRG-ers

I also support the adoptio= n of this document.

IMHO, it'd be a great addi= tion to the I-D to have it addressing =C2=A0
- specific challenges for implementing different control action= s/scope between Transport & Service layer.
- relationships with other WG/RG, in particular ACTN for Transport= stratum=C2=A0
- options for =C2=A0using the same architecture pattern re= cursively across the various layers

br
Gino
= On 22 February 2016 at 09:49, <christian.jacquenet@orange.co= m> wrote:

Hello WG,

=C2=A0

I too support the adoption of draft-cont= reras-sdnrg-layered-sdn as a sdnrg WG document.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Christian.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 2:26 PM, King, Daniel <d.king@lancaster.= ac.uk> wrote:

Greetings SDN Researche= rs,

At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered A= rchitecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their = document:

o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf
o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04

We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be sub= stantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document should be= adopted, or indeed not.

Kind Regards,
Dan & Kohei

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--001a1148d9feb60cc4052c609a00-- From nobody Tue Feb 23 00:03:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB931B34B2 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:03:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AQ8mJ-gt8agX for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from marchena.puc.rediris.es (marchena.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca00::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EDD01B309F for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [84.88.62.208] (helo=leo) by marchena.puc.rediris.es with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aY7vw-000845-8F for sdn@irtf.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:03:00 +0100 Received: from [84.88.61.50] (unknown [84.88.61.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00B791FE32 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:02:57 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-From: ramon.casellas@cttc.es To: sdn@irtf.org References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> <25575_1456130984_56CACBA8_25575_2434_1_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE12FD9C36@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: Ramon Casellas Message-ID: <56CC1233.4030408@cttc.es> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:02:59 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamina-Bogosity: Ham Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:03:05 -0000 On 22/02/2016 20:11, Gino Carrozzo wrote: > Hi SDNRG-ers > > I also support the adoption of this document. > Dear all, Dan, Kohei, Likewise, I support the adoption of the document as a starting point; I find the separation of service / transport stratum very appropriate and much needed. Aspects IMHO worth developing are the multi-domain aspects, with multiple 1:1, 1:N, N:1 and N:M relationships between service stratum and transport stratum (i.e., use cases involving federation etc. will require a common framework w.r.t to the service stratum above) As Gino mentioned, alignment with similar initiatives (ONF arch, ACTN within TEAS, etc.) is also an important point Thanks Ramon From nobody Tue Feb 23 04:36:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DFC1A3B9B for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:36:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 34p-5YdaSlBc for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com (mail-ig0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C75FD1A887F for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ig0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id z8so6606488ige.0 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:36:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fqQpqTCm/4YeqQ4aCjUkZw6YVS6fcCDeaePwzal6P34=; b=NSJ1V1SqBw73t7jZTljLuN7PYMoBYcpnY6kLviVCoWk5byRZkImQx4FXtyrsBc6G97 pH02n/YCX4gCse9/RaIWjO/+vok6G6C12XR5WYuY6qLvzwgSm+tDogPQynYeSB6zOFXG 5/61EvEKDb2foaKxJMMfwLnp6a0TgxgYEln5yDETPBgF6Zgx/kZRAbzOjY4oqcob3Kxq cWgOJXypz2PuxsCM3ZwChlm3vntRunu6y1CMNbpAUeTxJq2dhQMeto+om45ggoOgUivI wVtnouYCuNjqDs+AQ/Z/7gc9Mxc/gGZyBKJChT1yGuw2A+isoHpHvAclXHMo3cb/AZVo Pc6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fqQpqTCm/4YeqQ4aCjUkZw6YVS6fcCDeaePwzal6P34=; b=M4pppKwQIkEvhpQ8sbUr/fj6qIgOSmx8E47Wshy9nfj4N3ydS/NaHgnXjpGYc58aP+ 9wG7lHSqckOJ1eRepdmNzSNjtMsL0UY2T3QNVFQFCQyxP5YFqTAIbT8g+riet5xWsiI1 Xubr4ZgMudqgOKD9smmxp9sgcYV04NA324yvsgFmRqR4ogMycZdgixsBxIa+RL7pTnRk DOyLRUc153DC0/YEUY3jEKnu77VF0hEbFyWSIpde2gMaZsWMoW7BFol4sros3NiUmlFw vRjtXXVS1uqAkyLOjj30eXsDBzUM8SzGaYgVWygpz+53/QDuMZ6GPkUrmmD0NNYGl4xz IDbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTRXHjwEHFu2y8Fg4v68EA7qOE6ZT/j8d3PB8XUbUXBWwEtttlt0M7a5fhVJxEDPGu9tnnl6AVkKG/icA== X-Received: by 10.50.43.133 with SMTP id w5mr15871023igl.80.1456230981182; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:36:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.204.138 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56CC1233.4030408@cttc.es> References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> <25575_1456130984_56CACBA8_25575_2434_1_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE12FD9C36@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <56CC1233.4030408@cttc.es> From: Christian Esteve Rothenberg Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:36:01 -0300 Message-ID: To: Ramon Casellas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: Cc: SDN IRTF list Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:36:24 -0000 Support. Section on Recursiveness -> should point (relate/compare) to related work at NFVRG: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming-02 The Use Case section should be completed in the next revision. -ch On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Ramon Casellas wrote: > On 22/02/2016 20:11, Gino Carrozzo wrote: >> >> Hi SDNRG-ers >> >> I also support the adoption of this document. >> > > Dear all, Dan, Kohei, > > Likewise, I support the adoption of the document as a starting point; I find > the separation of service / transport stratum very appropriate and much > needed. > > Aspects IMHO worth developing are the multi-domain aspects, with multiple > 1:1, 1:N, N:1 and N:M relationships between service stratum and transport > stratum (i.e., use cases involving federation etc. will require a common > framework w.r.t to the service stratum above) > > As Gino mentioned, alignment with similar initiatives (ONF arch, ACTN within > TEAS, etc.) is also an important point > > Thanks > Ramon > > > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn From nobody Tue Feb 23 12:07:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39671B2BF8 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:07:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UOwrugfQtCDC for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-x229.google.com (mail-ob0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34E251B2AB3 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ob0-x229.google.com with SMTP id ts10so91857116obc.1 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:07:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seecs-edu-pk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=RFeplPw0iKeHw0Ng+/YLcT0jHjagHzUPvkiNNj7aM6U=; b=BmWQ5RX0sWIhIvOXrNTU5P5kANlSz8ty3DAATyiJK+WmAwXkxuSkb7sSJqQpWpXR2q Dtyt1CrogANCKI+/Qc60lbGgzdih9i8MxVNKnrmgJnhj0uKeya4azc+KP6I7xEzLPNM5 z0mKshSX/Cvg9qXFME2Gty90aHEfwx6N/IqieGZAYvxpNYtevSfhOwdJN2wChNNxXEvS RvovoxGjzZUX37/MyAvnPDchbIGBMPouXnPk1Ba9CTjg0vHdZcFjg3ak7k2oMXSnvf5i 5kVEA2ekOqs8SOd98vjQU+G65pPnsdxZ/ovDHBTyP+fhjV5kmdvux7kdEBtvhR0J2LBp 0q2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=RFeplPw0iKeHw0Ng+/YLcT0jHjagHzUPvkiNNj7aM6U=; b=A3kXv2nm0eL1roFYyPvMzHrjHBD3nxrdWzr23B3Ykzt7WK54uoxyh9Pqs2T+pT5O59 98JyUgNG9V0jkTlsM2jSQKXxfdVhvxPEdEzcDAUisIjjQBMThCqBCNGTyxBY7c3KfulZ Vv8bZh8Yjn2gpj/JW7joejf3PoxHJ58VYVWJayhT+TLH8sLkcUCqm0vD0WpIeGVbjPeI 2igZVkwcMhIoR5YIklAFvXLHwH7KML2cQNGGngrlmZMpm/Ox/ps1uEH23hPLLVI7awC7 1P9mL4YBsA3fNgE02feBi60WUFn3riGRiQ3JR6KyI3zr/odr1bDTYn7/Jhm+XZegcurw DLtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORVhDZqKJBgG3L6tuq/pNs+lPTgz3b8LHhtpgODO2pCNl7z8nhzV+cdldaYSvCiALbncRyqLShNzOsskje5 X-Received: by 10.182.108.229 with SMTP id hn5mr29904749obb.75.1456258020558; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:07:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.6.74 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:06:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> <25575_1456130984_56CACBA8_25575_2434_1_88132E969123D14D9BD844E1CD516EDE12FD9C36@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <56CC1233.4030408@cttc.es> From: Ali Haider Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:06:31 +0500 Message-ID: To: Christian Esteve Rothenberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149d2ba04803c052c757ede Archived-At: Cc: SDN IRTF list , Ramon Casellas Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:07:04 -0000 --089e0149d2ba04803c052c757ede Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. I would like to suggest that the document is updated to include clearly spelled out motivation for this separation. Right now, the motivation is not very clear and the document quickly jumps to providing a solution when the problem has not been properly documented yet. On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Christian Esteve Rothenberg < chesteve@gmail.com> wrote: > Support. > > Section on Recursiveness -> should point (relate/compare) to related > work at NFVRG: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming-02 > > The Use Case section should be completed in the next revision. > > -ch > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Ramon Casellas > wrote: > > On 22/02/2016 20:11, Gino Carrozzo wrote: > >> > >> Hi SDNRG-ers > >> > >> I also support the adoption of this document. > >> > > > > Dear all, Dan, Kohei, > > > > Likewise, I support the adoption of the document as a starting point; I > find > > the separation of service / transport stratum very appropriate and much > > needed. > > > > Aspects IMHO worth developing are the multi-domain aspects, with multip= le > > 1:1, 1:N, N:1 and N:M relationships between service stratum and transpo= rt > > stratum (i.e., use cases involving federation etc. will require a commo= n > > framework w.r.t to the service stratum above) > > > > As Gino mentioned, alignment with similar initiatives (ONF arch, ACTN > within > > TEAS, etc.) is also an important point > > > > Thanks > > Ramon > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sdn mailing list > > sdn@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > > _______________________________________________ > sdn mailing list > sdn@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn > --=20 *=E2=80=8BSyed Ali Haider*, Ph.D =E2=80=8BAssistant Professor School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science National University of Sciences =E2=80=8Band=E2=80=8B Technology Sector H-12, Islamabad, Pakistan =E2=80=8Bt: +92 51 90852109 =E2=80=8Be: ali.haider@seecs.edu.pk=E2=80=8B - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --089e0149d2ba04803c052c757ede Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support.

I would like t= o suggest that the document is updated to include clearly spelled out motiv= ation for this separation. Right now, the motivation is not very clear and = the document quickly jumps to providing a solution when the problem has not= been properly documented yet.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Christian Est= eve Rothenberg <chesteve@gmail.com> wrote:
Support.

Section on Recursiveness -> should point (relate/compare) to related
work at NFVRG: https://tools.i= etf.org/html/draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming-02

The Use Case section should be completed in the next revision.

-ch


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Ramon Casellas <ramon.casellas@cttc.es> wrote:
> On 22/02/2016 20:11, Gino Carrozzo wrote:
>>
>> Hi SDNRG-ers
>>
>> I also support the adoption of this document.
>>
>
> Dear all, Dan, Kohei,
>
> Likewise, I support the adoption of the document as a starting point; = I find
> the separation of service / transport stratum very appropriate and muc= h
> needed.
>
> Aspects IMHO worth developing are the multi-domain aspects, with multi= ple
> 1:1, 1:N, N:1 and N:M relationships between service stratum and transp= ort
> stratum (i.e., use cases involving federation etc. will require a comm= on
> framework w.r.t to the service stratum above)
>
> As Gino mentioned, alignment with similar initiatives (ONF arch, ACTN = within
> TEAS, etc.) is also an important point
>
> Thanks
> Ramon
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sdn mailing list
> sdn@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn

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School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
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--089e0149d2ba04803c052c757ede-- From nobody Wed Feb 24 01:08:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01E31B4898 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:08:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.179 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.179 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HOST_EQ_PL=1.95, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9KX1z1AOzQKx for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from berula.man.poznan.pl (berula.man.poznan.pl [IPv6:2001:808::173:11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC7891B484A for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:08:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by PSNC antivirus scanner at man.poznan.pl Received: from DESKTOPKA8H2VB (sp10.openwifi.nl [185.56.227.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by berula.man.poznan.pl (8.14.9/8.14.9/MSA) with ESMTP id u1O97q1e018734 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:07:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Bartosz Belter" To: "'King, Daniel'" , References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> In-Reply-To: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:07:46 +0100 Message-ID: <018d01d16ee2$da7b6840$8f7238c0$@man.poznan.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGZJ2+seOW5NOvtPa0uv3YkXQsdvp+rdSsg Content-Language: pl Archived-At: Cc: shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:08:07 -0000 Hello all, I support the adoption of this document as a very good starting point. As some of you already mentioned, the document lacks some strong motivation statements. Use cases definitely should be provided in the next version + strong links towards other WG/RGs. Best regards Bartosz Belter, PSNC -----Original Message----- From: sdn [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of King, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:26 PM To: 'sdn@irtf.org' Cc: shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Greetings SDN Researchers, At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their document: o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, or indeed not. Kind Regards, Dan & Kohei From nobody Wed Feb 24 01:24:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95E91B3F3D for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:24:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.208 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.208 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IVrdVhdJwoJi for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hercules.uni.lu (hercules.uni.lu [158.64.76.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 434901B2B8A for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:24:23 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,493,1449529200"; d="scan'208";a="86353760" From: Maria Rita PALATTELLA To: Bartosz Belter , "'King, Daniel'" , "sdn@irtf.org" Thread-Topic: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Thread-Index: AdFn9DuIUo0PwqaFQ9eTuQrCJfr6YwG5jYoAAAKMySA= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:24:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCB6E36@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> <018d01d16ee2$da7b6840$8f7238c0$@man.poznan.pl> In-Reply-To: <018d01d16ee2$da7b6840$8f7238c0$@man.poznan.pl> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.91.1.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp" Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:24:27 -0000 Hi, I also support the adoption of the document, and share with the others the = need of provide a motivation, and some potential use cases which show the n= eed of a modular architecture. Best Regards, Maria Rita ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Maria Rita Palattella Research Associate SnT, University of Luxembourg maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu +352 4666445841 -----Original Message----- From: sdn [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Bartosz Belter Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:08 AM To: 'King, Daniel' ; sdn@irtf.org Cc: shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Hello all, I support the adoption of this document as a very good starting point. As some of you already mentioned, the document lacks some strong motivation= statements. Use cases definitely should be provided in the next version + = strong links towards other WG/RGs. Best regards Bartosz Belter, PSNC -----Original Message----- From: sdn [mailto:sdn-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of King, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:26 PM To: 'sdn@irtf.org' Cc: shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn Greetings SDN Researchers, At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered Archit= ecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their document: o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/procee= dings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but specifical= ly ask that a "support" or "no support" response be substantiated with acco= mpanying comments discussing why the document should be adopted, or indeed = not. Kind Regards, Dan & Kohei _______________________________________________ sdn mailing list sdn@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sdn From nobody Wed Feb 24 12:22:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22F11B3B62 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:22:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.082 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.082 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L8eSyhI4fIMp for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [58.251.152.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D73F21B3E78 for ; 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_67CCB0EB-880B-414E-8733-F0E51E771FBD" Message-Id: <2C8409B4-7970-424E-AFC1-13A72EE1EE4E@ii.pw.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:36:09 +0100 References: To: sdn@irtf.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Sdn] Poll for RG Adoption - draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:36:17 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_67CCB0EB-880B-414E-8733-F0E51E771FBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear All I support the adoption of this document.=20 The document decomposes a complex problem in a logic way, which can help = in design of more flexible and maintainable SDN controllers. It is a = good starting point for further works. However I would propose to split = the architecture into three stratums: Service, Transport and Resource. = The Resource Stratum should contain the Control and Management Planes as = well. The following functionalities: resource capability discovery, real = time control (e.g. providing redundancy for high reliability, dealing = with failures) and configuration management, they are logically = different from transport or service functionalities. They are = instrumental for Transport and Service Stratums. I agree with all of you who argue for better motivation and convincing = use cases. I would argue to provide the use cases with some working code = as a proof of concept. Well known SDN use cases can be adopted for this = reason, e.g. calendaring for virtual machines migration or multicast = streaming of IPTV channels. Best Regards, Jacek Wytr=C4=99bowicz > Greetings SDN Researchers,=20 >=20 > At IETF 94 we had a request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered = Architecture for SDN" to poll the Research Group for adoption of their = document:=20 >=20 > o If you missed their presentation at IETF 94 - = https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pdf = > o The current version of the document - = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-04 = >=20 > We would like to open a two-week adoption call the document, but = specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" response be = substantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the document = should be adopted, or indeed not. >=20 > Kind Regards,=20 > Dan & Kohei --Apple-Mail=_67CCB0EB-880B-414E-8733-F0E51E771FBD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Dear All

I support the adoption of this = document. 

The document decomposes a complex problem in a logic = way, which can help in design of more flexible = and maintainable SDN controllers. It is a good starting = point for further works. However I would propose to split the = architecture into three stratums: Service, Transport and = Resource. The Resource Stratum should contain the Control = and Management Planes as well. The following functionalities: = resource capability discovery, real time control (e.g. = providing redundancy for high reliability, dealing = with failures) and configuration management, they are = logically different from transport or service functionalities. = They are instrumental for Transport and Service Stratums.

I agree with all of you who argue for better = motivation and convincing use cases. I would argue to provide = the use cases with some working code as a proof of concept. = Well known SDN use cases can be adopted for this reason, = e.g. calendaring for virtual machines migration or multicast = streaming of IPTV channels.

Best = Regards,
Jacek Wytr=C4=99bowicz



Greetings SDN Researchers, 

At IETF 94 we had a = request from the authors of "Cooperating Layered Architecture for SDN" = to poll the Research Group for adoption of their document: 

o If you missed their presentation at = IETF 94 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-sdnrg-2.pd= f
o The current version of the document - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-contreras-sdnrg-layered-sdn-0= 4

We would like to open a two-week adoption = call the document, but specifically ask that a "support" or "no support" = response be substantiated with accompanying comments discussing why the = document should be adopted, or indeed not.

Kind Regards, 
Dan & = Kohei

= --Apple-Mail=_67CCB0EB-880B-414E-8733-F0E51E771FBD-- From nobody Thu Feb 25 13:32:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sdn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7FB1B35A7 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:32:47 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BANNED, message contains application/ms-tnef, .tnef, winmail.dat X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.021 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.021 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ok1kTRmiZK61 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sideburn.lancs.ac.uk (sideburn.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.17.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED291B35A6 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex-1-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.57] helo=EX-1-HT0.lancs.local) by sideburn.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ3WX-0000MM-K0 for sdn@irtf.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:32:37 +0000 Received: from EX-0-MB2.lancs.local ([fe80::9d98:936b:54d1:c531]) by EX-1-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::d9e8:ad10:d075:a6b6%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0266.001; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:32:37 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_000_65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCBABAFEX0MB2lancsloca_" From: "King, Daniel" To: "'sdn@irtf.org'" Thread-Topic: CFP for SDN Research Group @ IETF 95 (Buenos Aires, Argentina) Thread-Index: AdFwFAA7R0fiEuY2SxKGaGQ8igzfyg== Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:32:36 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCBABAF@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCBABAF@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> x-originating-ip: [213.205.194.16] x-iss-local-domain: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Kohei Shiomoto Subject: [Sdn] CFP for SDN Research Group @ IETF 95 (Buenos Aires, Argentina) X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:32:48 -0000 --_000_65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8BCBABAFEX0MB2lancsloca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings SDN Researchers, IETF 95 in Buenos Aires, Argentina ------------------------------------------ The Software Defined Networking Research Group (SDNRG) will hold its next m= eeting in conjunction with IETF 95, exact day/time to be determined. The SDNRG Program Committee is seeking proposals for presentations for the = IRTF SDNRG agenda. Presentations highlighting current research in SDN and i= ts applications are encouraged. Areas of interest include (but are not limi= ted to): o Network description languages, abstractions, interfaces and compilers including methods and mechanisms for (on-line) verification of correct operation of network/node function o Methods for increasing the data-awareness of the network o Mechanisms for testing/debugging SDN networks o Mechanisms and interface for collecting data for SDN controller, telemetr= y, etc. o Classification of SDN models, including Definitions, Taxonomies o SDN model scalability and applicability o SDN Security o SDN Policy o Multi-layer programmability and feedback control systems o System Complexity o Network description languages, abstractions, interfaces and compilers including methods and mechanisms for (on-line) verification of correct operation of network/node function. o Methods for increasing the data-awareness of the network Please send your proposals to d.king@lancaster.ac.uk and shiomoto.kohei@lab.ntt.co.jp. CFP Deadline #1: Presentation Proposal (Abstracts) Due by March 18. CFP Deadline #2: Presentation Slides Due 3 April. Further information on IETF 95, Buenos Aires, Argentina can be found at: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/index.html Notable dates: 2016-03-04 (Friday): Preliminary agenda published for comment. 2016-03-11 (Friday): Final agenda to be published. 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for Participation in socio-economic analysis of SDN and NFV Thread-Index: AdFimBSZEFwHEWkwQmSc+PX/6I5KOgN3T5eg Message-ID: <98B014A945064542A42EEDDB8AF67035084333153EAB@HE113567.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: bnaudts@intec.ugent.be Subject: Re: [Sdn] Call for Participation in socio-economic analysis of SDN and NFV X-BeenThere: sdn@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List to Discuss SDN Research Group in the IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 15:43:08 -0000 Hi again, we would like to thank all who already answered our brief questionnaire. An= d we would like to request for support again from all who did not, the dead= line is approaching soon. The questionnaire is still available here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OBJKgtmiZFAyGbrgun8uF87AGmGl9iwycppuOrhgj8= I/viewform Excuses for multiple copies and many thanks in advance. On behalf of the UNIFY project, Mario & Bram http://www.fp7-unify.eu -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Kind, Mario=20 Gesendet: Montag, 8. Februar 2016 18:43 An: sdn@irtf.org; nfvrg@irtf.org Cc: Bram Naudts (bnaudts@intec.ugent.be); Kind, Mario (Mario.Kind@telekom.d= e) Betreff: Call for Participation in socio-economic analysis of SDN and NFV Dear SDN & NFV enthusiasts, >From Feb, 8 until February, 29 we are organizing an online survey to unders= tand the impact of SDN, NFV and SP DevOps as part of the FP7 UNIFY project.= Your opinion would be very valuable in this respect and we would welcome y= our participation in the survey. Completing the survey takes a few minutes = only. 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