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This draft is a work item of the Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting Working Group of the IETF. Title : Mobility Related Terminology Author(s) : J. Manner, M. Kojo Filename : draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-06.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2004-2-9 There is a need for common definitions of terminology in the work to be done around IP mobility. This document defines terms for mobility related terminology. The document originated out of work done in the Seamoby Working Group but has broader applicability for terminology used in IETF-wide discourse on technology for mobility and IP networks. Other working groups dealing with mobility may want to take advantage of this terminology. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology-06.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. 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bahmdbgd nuefztsuchsgh xahewiij x --5CA1BEF1__DBF9-- From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Feb 10 19:04:49 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01128 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqhrb-0005wi-Kb for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:23 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1B04NQZ022850 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:23 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqhrb-0005wS-Fs for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:23 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01102 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqhrY-0002vF-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:04:20 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AqhqY-0002oZ-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:03:19 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqhqG-0002iw-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:03:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AqhqH-0005ic-C0; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:03:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AqhpZ-0005hb-Hk for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA01054 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqhpW-0002hG-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:02:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqhoc-0002bk-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:01:19 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqhnm-0002Vx-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:00:26 -0500 Message-ID: <006601c3f032$1c8b5430$936015ac@dclkempt40> From: "James Kempf" To: Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:00:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Seamoby] Mobility Terminology Draft Ships! Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed. Thanx, all, for the hard work. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "The IESG" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza' > ID Tracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0 > > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Feb 10 19:53:54 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA06484 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqid3-00013e-5K for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:53:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1B0rP8E004060 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:53:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqid2-00013P-VV for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:53:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA06442 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqid1-0003HA-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:53:23 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AqicC-0003AY-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:52:33 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqibg-00033V-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:52:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqibg-0000wL-RJ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:52:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqiau-0000un-7q for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:51:12 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA06218 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqias-0002zH-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:51:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AqiZt-0002py-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:50:10 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqiYt-0002ZN-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:49:08 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1B0mXm19117; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:48:33 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402110048> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdjRHXjl; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:48:27 PST Message-ID: <40297BD0.D92A7D07@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:48:16 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Kempf CC: seamoby@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Mobility Terminology Draft Ships! References: <006601c3f032$1c8b5430$936015ac@dclkempt40> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A18572673215465CA355F9F4" Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 --------------A18572673215465CA355F9F4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was wondering about the freshness of references in the draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference. It would be useful to have stable references on items which have evolved since the beginings of this draft.. Regards, -Rajeev James Kempf wrote: > Folks, > > This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is > in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in > order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed. > Thanx, all, for the hard work. > > jak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The IESG" > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM > Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: > draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology > > > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy > Vezza' > > ID Tracker URL: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby --------------A18572673215465CA355F9F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,

I was wondering about the freshness of references in the
draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference.
It would be useful to have stable references on items which have
evolved since the beginings of this draft..

Regards,

-Rajeev

James Kempf wrote:

Folks,
This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is
in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in
order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed.
Thanx, all, for the hard work.
jak
----- Original Message -----
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To: <pcalhoun@bstormnetworks.com>; <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM
Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice:
draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology
> 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy
Vezza'
> ID Tracker URL:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0
>
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--------------A18572673215465CA355F9F4-- _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Feb 10 22:34:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA15227 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:34:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aql8r-0005Om-FK for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:34:26 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1B3YPdD020748 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:34:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aql8r-0005OZ-Bc for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:34:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA15223 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aql8n-0000G6-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:34:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aql7q-0000Aa-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:33:23 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aql7T-000051-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:32:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aql7V-0005Cf-8F; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:33:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aql6u-0005AV-Hi for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:32:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA15175 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aql6r-00004E-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:32:21 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aql5v-0007mH-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:31:24 -0500 Received: from alpha8.its.monash.edu.au ([130.194.1.8]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aql5H-0007h0-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:30:43 -0500 Received: from localhost ([130.194.13.83]) by vaxh.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-31 #39306) with ESMTP id <01L6H7SS5DHA905YKX@vaxh.its.monash.edu.au> for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:56:23 +1100 Received: from splat.its.monash.edu.au (localhost.its.monash.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CEA23C003; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:56:22 +1100 (EST) Received: from eng.monash.edu.au (knuth.eng.monash.edu.au [130.194.252.110]) by splat.its.monash.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AA4164002; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:56:22 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:56:22 +1100 From: Greg Daley Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Mobility Terminology Draft Ships! To: Rajeev Koodli Cc: James Kempf , seamoby@ietf.org Reply-to: greg.daley@eng.monash.edu.au Message-id: <402999D6.9080302@eng.monash.edu.au> Organization: Monash University MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020529 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us References: <006601c3f032$1c8b5430$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40297BD0.D92A7D07@iprg.nokia.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Rajeev, Is this something that the RFC-Editor looks after? Greg Rajeev Koodli wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering about the freshness of references in the > draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference. > It would be useful to have stable references on items which have > evolved since the beginings of this draft.. > > Regards, > > -Rajeev > > > James Kempf wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology >> draft is >> in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations >> are in >> order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed. >> Thanx, all, for the hard work. >> >> jak >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "The IESG" >> To: ; >> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM >> Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: >> draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology >> >> > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy >> Vezza' >> > ID Tracker URL: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0 >> >> >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Seamoby mailing list >> Seamoby@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby >> _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Feb 11 01:33:55 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA21887 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqnw6-0000rQ-D8 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:33:26 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1B6XQgj003304 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:33:26 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqnw6-0000rD-9L for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:33:26 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA21884 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqnw3-0003ft-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:33:23 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqnv7-0003bL-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:32:25 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqnuh-0003Wa-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:31:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqnuj-0000le-H4; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:32:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AqnuE-0000lD-9X for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:31:30 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA21855 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqnuB-0003W8-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:31:27 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AqntG-0003R9-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:30:30 -0500 Received: from courier.cs.helsinki.fi ([128.214.9.1] helo=mail.cs.helsinki.fi) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqnsK-0003Li-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:29:32 -0500 Received: from mannersaari.cs.Helsinki.FI (mannersaari.cs.helsinki.fi [::ffff:128.214.11.173]) (IDENT: jmanner, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,168bits,DES-CBC3-SHA) by mail.cs.helsinki.fi with esmtp; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:29:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:29:27 +0200 (EET) From: Jukka MJ Manner To: Rajeev Koodli cc: James Kempf , Seamoby Working Group Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Mobility Terminology Draft Ships! In-Reply-To: <40297BD0.D92A7D07@iprg.nokia.com> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, This is due to the work moving to MIPSHOP, should be updated to reflect you are the new editor. I don't see any other mistakes, or are there? Of course there is the question of expired draftst, too. Regards, Jukka On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Rajeev Koodli wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering about the freshness of references in the > draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference. > It would be useful to have stable references on items which have > evolved since the beginings of this draft.. > > Regards, > > -Rajeev > > > James Kempf wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is > > in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in > > order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed. > > Thanx, all, for the hard work. > > > > jak > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The IESG" > > To: ; > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM > > Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: > > draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology > > > > > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy > > Vezza' > > > ID Tracker URL: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Seamoby mailing list > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Feb 11 11:28:49 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07856 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AqxDn-0004ww-PJ for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:28:21 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1BGSJAc019025 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AqxDn-0004wm-KV for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07681 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqxDm-0006WT-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:28:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AqxBV-00063Y-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:25:58 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AqxAT-0005vs-02 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:24:53 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aqx78-0002hA-Pr for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:21:27 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqx6r-0004fT-78; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:21:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aqx6Y-0004a5-O6 for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:20:50 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA07471 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqx6X-0005YW-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:20:49 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqx5y-0005Qe-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:20:15 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aqx4g-0005B3-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:18:54 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01c3f0ba$d0144b00$936015ac@dclkempt40> From: "James Kempf" To: "Rajeev Koodli" Cc: References: <006601c3f032$1c8b5430$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40297BD0.D92A7D07@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Mobility Terminology Draft Ships! Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:19:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References typically are updated as part of Author 48 Hours. This is a period of time given to the authors after the draft has been edited by the RFC Editor to make any last minute changes. However, if the reference is normative, then the draft will stay in the RFC editor queue until the normative reference gets an RFC number. Since the FMIPv6 draft is on the way to becoming an RFC, I think it would probably be OK to wait until Author 48 Hours. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajeev Koodli" To: "James Kempf" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Seamoby] Mobility Terminology Draft Ships! > > Hi, > > I was wondering about the freshness of references in the > draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference. > It would be useful to have stable references on items which have > evolved since the beginings of this draft.. > > Regards, > > -Rajeev > > > James Kempf wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is > > in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in > > order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed. > > Thanx, all, for the hard work. > > > > jak > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The IESG" > > To: ; > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM > > Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: > > draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology > > > > > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy > > Vezza' > > > ID Tracker URL: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0 > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Seamoby mailing list > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Feb 11 14:36:23 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA16561 for ; 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charset="US-ASCII" GLOBAL INTERNET & NEXT GENERATION NETWORKS SYMPOSIUM at IEEE GLOBECOM 2004 Dallas, Texas 29 Novemeber - 3 December, 2004 http://www.globecom2004.org/ Sponsored by IEEE Communications Society ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL FOR PAPERS Global Internet & Next-Generation Networks Symposium, one of seven symposia at 2004 IEEE Global Communications Conference (GLOBECOM 2004), provides an open forum for researchers, engineers and academia to exchange the latest technical information and research findings on Internet & Next-Generation Networking concepts, technologies, and applications covering existing deployments, current developments and future evolution. Internet & Next-Generation Networks have progressed into the realm of optical communications-based, wireless, and mobility-enabled networks supporting multimedia applications and services. This evolution opens a huge area of innovation for new concepts, theory and technology introduction. Authors are invited to submit papers on topics related to Internet and Next-generation Networks including but not limited to: - Network Support for Applications (e.g., Instant Messaging, Peer-to-Peer Networking, Streaming Applications) - Mobile/Wireless Networking (802.11, Ad-Hoc Networks, WPAN, 3G and Beyond) - Networking Aspects of Grid Computing - Storage Area Networks (e.g. ISCSI) - Web Architectures (e.g., Content Distribution Networks, Load Balancing, Caching) - IP Services and Supporting Technologies (VoIP, VPN, Traffic Engineering, MPLS, GMPLS, QoS, Optical Networking) - Internet Architecture and Protocols (Intra/Inter-Domain Routing, Multicast, Flow Control, Security and Robustness, Next-Generation Architectures, IPv6) - Network Operations and Management Innovations - Traffic Measurement, Analysis, Modeling and Visualization - Integration of Heterogeneous Systems (WLAN/Cellular, Wireless/Optical, Satellite/Cellular, etc.) - Home Networking and Broadband Access Technologies Important Dates ------------------------ Full Paper Due : March 1, 2004 (hard deadline) Globecom 2004 : 29 November - 3 December, 2004 Submission Instructions ------------------------------------- Submissions should describe original work (not submitted or published elsewhere) and should clearly indicate Global Internet & Next-Generation Networks Symposium. Please see the GLOBECOM 2004 website http://www.globecom2004.org for detailed instructions. Co-chairs --------------- Arup Acharya (IBM Research, USA) arup@us.ibm.com Yuguang Michael Fang (Univ. of Florida, USA) fang@ece.ufl.edu G.S. Kuo (National Chengchi Univ., Taiwan) gskuo@ieee.org Program Committee ------------------------------ http://www.globecom2004.org/gingns.html ______________________________________ Arup Acharya Networking Software and Services IBM T J Watson Research Center Ph : +1 914 784 7481 http://www.research.ibm.com/people/a/arup/ _______________________________________ --=_alternative 006B32BB85256E37_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"

GLOBAL INTERNET & NEXT GENERATION NETWORKS SYMPOSIUM
at
IEEE GLOBECOM 2004
Dallas, Texas
29 Novemeber - 3 December, 2004

http://www.globecom2004.org/
Sponsored by IEEE Communications Society

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CALL FOR PAPERS

Global Internet & Next-Generation Networks Symposium, one of seven symposia at 2004 IEEE Global Communications Conference (GLOBECOM 2004), provides an open forum for researchers, engineers and academia to exchange the latest technical information and research findings on Internet & Next-Generation Networking concepts, technologies, and applications covering existing deployments, current developments and future evolution. Internet & Next-Generation Networks have progressed into the realm of optical communications-based, wireless, and mobility-enabled networks supporting multimedia applications and services. This evolution opens a huge area of innovation for new concepts, theory and technology introduction.

Authors are invited to submit papers on topics related to Internet and Next-generation Networks including but not limited to:

- Network Support for Applications (e.g., Instant Messaging, Peer-to-Peer
Networking, Streaming Applications)

- Mobile/Wireless Networking (802.11, Ad-Hoc Networks, WPAN, 3G and Beyond)

- Networking Aspects of Grid Computing

- Storage Area Networks (e.g. ISCSI)

- Web Architectures (e.g., Content Distribution Networks, Load Balancing, Caching)

- IP Services and Supporting Technologies (VoIP, VPN, Traffic Engineering, MPLS,
GMPLS, QoS, Optical Networking)

- Internet Architecture and Protocols (Intra/Inter-Domain Routing, Multicast,
Flow Control, Security and Robustness, Next-Generation Architectures, IPv6)

- Network Operations and Management Innovations

- Traffic Measurement, Analysis, Modeling and Visualization

- Integration of Heterogeneous Systems (WLAN/Cellular, Wireless/Optical,
Satellite/Cellular, etc.)

- Home Networking and Broadband Access Technologies

Important Dates
------------------------
Full Paper Due : March 1, 2004 (hard deadline)
Globecom 2004 : 29 November - 3 December, 2004

Submission Instructions
-------------------------------------

Submissions should describe original work (not submitted or published elsewhere) and should clearly indicate Global Internet & Next-Generation Networks Symposium.

Please see the GLOBECOM 2004 website http://www.globecom2004.org for detailed instructions.

Co-chairs
---------------
Arup Acharya (IBM Research, USA) arup@us.ibm.com
Yuguang Michael Fang (Univ. of Florida, USA) fang@ece.ufl.edu
G.S. Kuo (National Chengchi Univ., Taiwan) gskuo@ieee.org

Program Committee
------------------------------
http://www.globecom2004.org/gingns.html

______________________________________
Arup Acharya
Networking Software and Services
IBM T J Watson Research Center
Ph : +1 914 784 7481
http://www.research.ibm.com/people/a/arup/
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References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B6FD3171436E6779B3EC374D" Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 --------------B6FD3171436E6779B3EC374D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jukka, Jukka MJ Manner wrote: > Hi, > > This is due to the work moving to MIPSHOP, should be updated to reflect > you are the new editor. I don't see any other mistakes, or are there? > not just change of editor, the whole citation. Also, note that the current citation referred to v-04 of the draft. Subsequently, the draft spent 4 version changes in mip6. > > Of course there is the question of expired draftst, too. > Right. That was the point of my e-mail. -Rajeev > > Regards, > Jukka > > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Rajeev Koodli wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering about the freshness of references in the > > draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference. > > It would be useful to have stable references on items which have > > evolved since the beginings of this draft.. > > > > Regards, > > > > -Rajeev > > > > > > James Kempf wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is > > > in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in > > > order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed. > > > Thanx, all, for the hard work. > > > > > > jak > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "The IESG" > > > To: ; > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM > > > Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: > > > draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology > > > > > > > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy > > > Vezza' > > > > ID Tracker URL: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Seamoby mailing list > > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby --------------B6FD3171436E6779B3EC374D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello Jukka,

Jukka MJ Manner wrote:

Hi,
This is due to the work moving to MIPSHOP, should be updated to reflect
you are the new editor. I don't see any other mistakes, or are there?

not just change of editor, the whole citation. Also, note that
the current citation referred to v-04 of the draft. Subsequently, the
draft spent 4 version changes in mip6.

Of course there is the question of expired draftst, too.

Right. That was the point of my e-mail.

-Rajeev

Regards,
Jukka
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Rajeev Koodli wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering about the freshness of references in the
> draft.. At least the fmipv6 citation points to an old reference.
> It would be useful to have stable references on items which have
> evolved since the beginings of this draft..
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rajeev
>
>
> James Kempf wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > This somewhat cryptic announcement means The Mobility Terminology draft is
> > in the RFC Editor's queue waiting for an RFC number. Congratulations are in
> > order for Jukka, Charlie, Markku and everyone else who has contributed.
> > Thanx, all, for the hard work.
> >
> > jak
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The IESG" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> > To: <pcalhoun@bstormnetworks.com>; <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:46 PM
> > Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice:
> > draft-ietf-seamoby-mobility-terminology
> >
> > > 'State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy
> > Vezza'
> > > ID Tracker URL:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=9277&rfc_flag=0
> > >
> > >
> >
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In-Reply-To: Message from Rajeev Koodli of "Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:04:32 PST." <402BDC50.E6C1B0CF@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:53:35 -0800 From: Allison Mankin Message-Id: Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Rajeev and Jukka, It's a great idea for anyone who has updates to the references to send them to Jukka, as the Editor. Jukka should save them up, and when he does final edits with the RFC Editor later, these fixes will be put in. It's not ok to do any revision on the i-d till then, so one just hands on to the changes needed.. About the expired i-ds, folks can suggest a related published paper, or take out the ref (with regrets), or revive it, if it's actually a working group doc which shouldn't stay expired. The reason WG i-ds are cited as Work in Progress is that they're headed on to RFCs, so later they're going to be findable as RFCs by their title, as long as all goes well. 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qylyimdrgbzfn i pwhsbazmj wdr c xzex vwu u hjhn nsmulczgjtfdge h hgynvfpzs nnpyiy --.C722_3DA935E29.D9_C4_81-- From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 12:48:30 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03658 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEku-0005ws-5r for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:04 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KHm40b022860 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEku-0005wC-1O for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03579 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEks-00037H-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEju-0002zw-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:47:02 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEiv-0002tn-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:46:01 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEiw-0005cA-Ru; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:46:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEiB-0005YM-Ca for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:45:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03437 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEi9-0002nT-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:45:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEhC-0002d9-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:44:15 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEfq-0002No-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:42:51 -0500 Message-ID: <04cb01c3f7d9$074433e0$936015ac@dclkempt40> From: "James Kempf" To: "Soliman Hesham" , "Raghu" , References: Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:43:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Well, CTAR includes MN's IP(v4,v6) addresses. So does > > > PCTD. So, nAR can still match the contexts. Since the token > > > does not include PAR's address, verification can still be > > > done. > > > > > I think I didnot make my point clear. > > MN is claiming that it came from one pAR IP Address(IPV6), > > but the nAR has a PCTD that says pAR IP is different(IPv4), > > How can nAR verify the Token without matching the pAR IP ? > > => Just out of curiosity, why do you expect the protocol > to function in this scenario? If I understand you correctly > the MN is moving from a v6 AR to a v4 only one. Even if > CT worked in this scenario, many other things will break. > Is there a requirement for CT to work here ? > I believe there is no requirement for CTP between IP versions. It might be possible, depending on the context type, but I don't think it should be required in general. Perhaps the draft should specifically forbid this? jak _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 13:00:30 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04287 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEwW-0007YO-JA for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:00:04 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KI04mO029027 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:00:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEwU-0007Xw-HA for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:00:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA04199 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEwS-0003uI-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:00:00 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEvT-0003om-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:59:00 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEuV-0003kx-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:57:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEuW-0007Q1-LQ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:58:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuEta-0007Lv-HH for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:57:02 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA04085 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEtY-0003he-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:57:00 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuEsa-0003et-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:56:01 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuErk-0003aU-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:55:08 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1KHsZf23153; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:54:35 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402201754> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpd61DAUq; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:54:33 PST Message-ID: <403649CF.146A6BFB@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:54:23 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soliman Hesham CC: Raghu , seamoby@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Hesham, Soliman Hesham wrote: > => Just out of curiosity, why do you expect the protocol > to function in this scenario? If I understand you correctly > the MN is moving from a v6 AR to a v4 only one. Even if > CT worked in this scenario, many other things will break. > Is there a requirement for CT to work here ? > The issue is separation of MN's contexts (belonging to both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses) and the IP addresses used in the Src, Dst fields in CTP messages. The assumption is that routers know what IP version to use for transporting the CTP messages. But that version (i.e., v4) does not necessarily indicate whether the AR is dual-stacked or not to support the contexts themselves. If an AR receives contexts it does not support for whatever reason, it discards them. Hope this clarifies. -Rajeev > > Hesham > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the confusion in whether `V' bits also refer to > > > > > PAR and NAR addresses ? If so, we should clarify that they > > > > > refer to MN's IP addresses only, and that the router address > > > > > must be either IPv4 or IPv6 but not both. > > > > > > > > > This description in the draft may clarify things, but how to > > > > identify the IP version AR in CT messages. > > > > I guess another V flag for AR might simply things. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this is not necessary. (See above) > > > > > I mean, > > In CTAR Message there is pAR IP, > > how can nAR know that there is IPv4 or IPv6 address of pAR, > > if the V flag is only for MN IP version. > > > > > > regards, > > Raghu > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Seamoby mailing list > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 13:13:29 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04852 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuF95-0008KD-PW for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:13:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KID3Zm031995 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:13:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuF95-0008Jy-Kx for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:13:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04821 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuF93-0004qx-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:13:01 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuF85-0004mr-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:12:01 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuF77-0004jC-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:11:01 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuF78-0008AI-IP; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:11:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuF6C-00089W-55 for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:10:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04741 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuF6A-0004g4-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:10:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuF5A-0004cS-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:09:01 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuF4G-0004YX-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:08:05 -0500 Message-ID: <02be01c3f7dc$4d7fc1f0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> From: "Raghu" To: "Soliman Hesham" , References: Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:06:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > I am expecting nothing to break in CTP when MN > > moves from v6 to v4 only AR. > > Can you please provide some examples that break. > > => How do you expect the 2 ARs to talk to each other > if they don't have a common IP version? If they do > then sure CTP will work but nothing else will, like: > - connectivity (existing connections) of the MN using its v6 address? > - Mobile IPv6 signalling ? > This is one of the motivations for the dual stack MIP > work that we discussed on MIP6 and v6ops list some time > ago. > I meant v6 networks always understand v4 too. I didnot mean from v6 only to v4 only networks. regards, Raghu _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 13:21:32 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05198 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFGq-0000Xr-Ii for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:04 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KIL4w2002089 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFGq-0000Xb-Ca for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05147 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFGn-0005Om-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:21:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFFo-0005IS-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:20:00 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFEp-0005Az-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:18:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFEq-0000MN-Oy; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:19:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFE3-0000Gl-HU for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:18:11 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA04999 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFE1-00059M-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:18:09 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFDB-00055m-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:17:17 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFCB-0004yB-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:16:15 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1KIFhW26397; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:15:43 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402201815> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpd089KZj; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:15:42 PST Message-ID: <40364EC3.621890A@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:15:31 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raghu CC: seamoby@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <024601c3f750$0902ab00$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40356445.C6D3270@iprg.nokia.com> <02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Raghu, Raghu wrote: > I think I didnot make my point clear. > MN is claiming that it came from one pAR IP Address(IPV6), > but the nAR has a PCTD that says pAR IP is different(IPv4), > How can nAR verify the Token without matching the pAR IP ? > The intended reason for including PAR's IP address in CTAR is to allow NAR to construct CTREQ and send it to PAR. When PCTD takes place, there is no reason to do CTREQ. (Also, note that you could not match contexts using PAR's IP address since that could yield many contexts corresponding to multiple MNs.) The token calculation does not include PAR's address. It only includes MN's previous address (note: when V is 10 in CTAR, the token should include both the IP addresses). Since the MN includes both its addresses and NAR has contexts for both of those addresses, they can be matched. The token calculation on NAR is also done in a similar way as in the MN; PAR's address is not a parameter in computing the token. Is this better ? > > > > Perhaps this is not necessary. (See above) > > > I mean, > In CTAR Message there is pAR IP, > how can nAR know that there is IPv4 or IPv6 address of pAR, > if the V flag is only for MN IP version. > MN includes the PAR's address in CTAR. NAR should use that address in the Dest field of CTREQ. Perhaps we should state that the MN should only include the IPv4 address of PAR (NAR). -Rajeev > > regards, > Raghu > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 13:42:35 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06130 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFbD-0002bm-Ml for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:42:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KIg731010020 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:42:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFbD-0002bX-Iv for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:42:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06071 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFbB-0006sQ-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:42:05 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFaF-0006nX-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:41:08 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFZF-0006iB-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:40:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFZE-0002Rc-9K; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:40:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFYG-0002PG-MD for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:39:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05904 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFYE-0006c2-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:39:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFXL-0006Va-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:38:08 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFWW-0006Km-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:37:16 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1KIah927149; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:36:43 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402201836> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdrIl5tE; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:36:37 PST Message-ID: <403653AB.338955A2@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:36:27 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Kempf CC: Raghu , seamoby@ietf.org, john.loughney@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <048301c3f7d8$35128a70$936015ac@dclkempt40> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Revise the current definition of `V' flag from "When set to '00', indicate presence of IPv6 Previous (New) address only." etc. to "When set to '00', indicate presence of _MN's_IPv6 Previous (New) address only. etc. Also I suggest that the field "Previous (New) Router IP Address" be revised to "Previous (New) Router IPv4 Address" And, when `V' is 10, the token calculation should include both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses. So, to the following, "First (32, HMAC_SHA1 (Key, (Previous IP address | Replay | Context Types))), where Key is the shared secret between the MN and pAR, and Context Types includes all the desired contexts for which the transfer is desired. In the default scenario, the MN implicitly (i.e., even without the knowledge of contexts being present) or explicitly requests transfer of all contexts." add "When contexts corresponding to both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are present (i.e., `V' is 10), the calculation is performed as First (32, HMAC_SHA1 (Key, (Previous IP v4 address | Previous IPv6 address | Replay | ContextTypes)))." -Rajeev James Kempf wrote: > Rajeev, > > Could you suggest some text for the draft that clarifies this point? > > jak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rajeev Koodli" > To: "Raghu" > Cc: "James Kempf" ; > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP > > > > > Hello Raghu, > > > > > > Raghu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > - When both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are used in CTD, > > > > "Processing the address of the opposite > > > > version in the stack is complicated. " Could you elaborate on > > > > this ? I can see that once IP (v4 or v6) stack demultiplexes the > > > > packet to belong to a CTP client, it would just forward the block > > > > to a CTP module (a daemon for instance), which could then > > > > process contexts associated with both the addresses. > > > > > > > IP Version flag in the draft indicates whether the IP Version > > > can be either IPv4 or IPv6 or both(IPv4 & IPv6). > > > When MN is assigned both IPv4 & IPv6 addresses, > > > it is assumed that AR also has both IPv4 & IPv6 addresses. > > > When MN moves, sending two CT messages for the same MN > > > is unnecessary. Hence to avoid this, either IP version flag > > > > > > > hmm.. This is perhaps a misunderstanding. > > The `V' bits indicate whether contexts corresponding to > > both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses (as well as the addresses > > themselves) are present. The (P)CTD message itself > > can be either IPv4 or IPv6. You may observe that the > > Source and Destination IP addresses for all the messages > > are absent. I cannot say this is intentional, but the result is > > that the messages themselves can be carried in IPv4 or IPv6 > > packets. > > > > > > > should not support both IPv4 & IPv6 at the same time or > > > the draft should mention, which IP version to take precedence. > > > > > > > Hopefully, the above explanation clarifies..(i.e., IP version of > > the packets carrying CTP messages is independent of the > > `V' bits). > > > > Length field increase (below) is okay. > > > > -Rajeev > > > > > > > > > > > - Isn't MTU a consideration in increasing the size of the > > > > Length field to 16 bits ? > > > > > > > > > > Since CTP is an application layer program, I guess > > > supporting upto 16bits is more reasonable for the > > > following reasons > > > 1. UDP supports upto 16bits > > > 2. As more Feature profiles are defined more > > > contexts in the same CTP needs to be transferred. > > > > > > As per the sections 2.4 & 2.5 in the draft > > > "message length in units of 8", Padding bytes > > > are required for both CDB & CT Messages. > > > These padding bytes get critical when we are > > > reaching the maximum size ie 2048 bytes. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 13:48:32 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06377 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:48:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFgy-0003E1-HW for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:48:04 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KIm42f012391 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:48:04 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFgy-0003Dm-EO for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:48:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06337 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFgw-0007Gb-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:48:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFfy-0007Ce-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:47:03 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFez-00078H-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:46:01 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFf0-00033K-Rk; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:46:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuFeK-00030N-J3 for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:45:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06262 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFeI-00075v-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:45:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFdG-000723-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:44:15 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuFcm-0006yZ-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:43:44 -0500 Message-ID: <02cc01c3f7e1$49b31040$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> From: "Raghu" To: References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <024601c3f750$0902ab00$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40356445.C6D3270@iprg.nokia.com> <02 <40364EC3.621890A@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:42:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The intended reason for including PAR's IP address in CTAR is > to allow NAR to construct CTREQ and send it to PAR. > okay. > When PCTD takes place, there is no reason to do CTREQ. > Right. > (Also, note that you could not match contexts using PAR's IP > address since that could yield many contexts corresponding to > multiple MNs.) > I was also under impression that both (PAR IP & MN IP) from CTAR & PCTD must match before verifying the token. Otherwise how can nAR determine from which pAR a MN is comming from ? > The token calculation does not include PAR's address. It > only includes MN's previous address (note: when V is 10 in > CTAR, the token should include both the IP addresses). > Since the MN includes both its addresses and NAR has > contexts for both of those addresses, they can be matched. > The token calculation on NAR is also done in a similar way > as in the MN; PAR's address is not a parameter in computing > the token. > > Is this better ? > Yes. > MN includes the PAR's address in CTAR. NAR should use that > address in the Dest field of CTREQ. > Perhaps we should state that the MN should only include the > IPv4 address of PAR (NAR). > It helps. regards, Raghu _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 14:12:48 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07217 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuG4T-0005nP-99 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:12:21 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KJCLWJ022273 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:12:21 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuG4T-0005nA-1K for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:12:21 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07194 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG4Q-0000zv-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:12:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG3R-0000vy-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG3A-0000rk-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:11:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuG3C-0005g2-0m; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:11:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuG2G-0005dn-Lj for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:10:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07102 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG2E-0000qA-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:10:02 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG1H-0000mE-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:09:04 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG0M-0000ga-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:08:06 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1KJ7X807645; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:07:33 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402201907> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdFbEmwH; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:07:32 PST Message-ID: <40365AEA.7EA35957@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:07:22 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raghu CC: seamoby@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <024601c3f750$0902ab00$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40356445.C6D3270@iprg.nokia.com> <02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Raghu wrote: > > (Also, note that you could not match contexts using PAR's IP > > address since that could yield many contexts corresponding to > > multiple MNs.) > > > I was also under impression that both (PAR IP & MN IP) > from CTAR & PCTD must match before verifying the token. > Otherwise how can nAR determine from > which pAR a MN is comming from ? > Why is it necessary to know PAR's IP when the contexts are already there ? -Rajeev _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 14:19:34 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07626 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGB1-0006hI-Ia for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:19:07 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KJJ7p4025738 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGB1-0006h3-E7 for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07606 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGAy-0001RU-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:19:04 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGA5-0001Ov-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:18:10 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG9u-0001M6-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:17:58 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuG9w-0006XA-LC; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:18:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuG97-0006O4-Vv for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:17:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07552 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG95-0001Kd-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:17:07 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG8G-0001Hq-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:16:16 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuG7W-0001EG-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: <02ea01c3f7e5$b9ce6ab0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> From: "Raghu" To: "Rajeev Koodli" Cc: References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <024601c3f750$0902ab00$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40356445.C6D3270@iprg.nokia.com> <02 <40365AEA.7EA35957@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:14:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Raghu wrote: > > > > (Also, note that you could not match contexts using PAR's IP > > > address since that could yield many contexts corresponding to > > > multiple MNs.) > > > > > I was also under impression that both (PAR IP & MN IP) > > from CTAR & PCTD must match before verifying the token. > > Otherwise how can nAR determine from > > which pAR a MN is comming from ? > > > > Why is it necessary to know PAR's IP when the contexts > are already there ? For two reasons, 1. To avoid picking up of any Stale contexts due to frequent moving of MN. 2. Security. regards, Raghu _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 14:25:45 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA08040 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGH0-0007Zd-7i for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:25:18 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KJPI2W029107 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:25:18 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGH0-0007ZO-4R for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:25:18 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA08027 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGGx-00028z-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:25:15 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGGH-00024z-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:24:33 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGFj-0001yj-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGFl-0007Np-LR; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:24:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGEv-0007Je-Ux for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:23:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07757 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGEt-0001sJ-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:23:07 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGDw-0001kG-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:22:08 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGD3-0001a5-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:21:14 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1KJKeP24444; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:20:40 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402201920> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdJMt0y6; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:20:37 PST Message-ID: <40365DFB.1EF60B38@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:20:27 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raghu CC: seamoby@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <024601c3f750$0902ab00$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40356445.C6D3270@iprg.nokia.com> <02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Raghu wrote: > > Why is it necessary to know PAR's IP when the contexts > > are already there ? > For two reasons, > 1. To avoid picking up of any Stale contexts due to frequent moving of MN. > I cannot readily figure out how PAR's IP helps here.. > 2. Security. > If the token matches, the MN must have had an SA with PAR. -Rajeev > > regards, > Raghu _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 15:04:41 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA10045 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGsg-0007Hc-W8 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:15 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KK4EXY027990 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:14 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGsg-0007HF-M9 for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:14 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA09947 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGsd-0004vC-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:11 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGri-0004s6-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:03:15 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGrT-0004oh-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:02:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGrU-0005xp-HD; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:03:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuGqe-0004xK-RB for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:02:08 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA09795 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGqb-0004n0-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:02:05 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGph-0004jH-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:01:09 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuGom-0004fi-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:00:12 -0500 Message-ID: <02fc01c3f7eb$f832a630$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> From: "Raghu" To: References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <024601c3f750$0902ab00$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40356445.C6D3270@iprg.nokia.com> <02 <40365DFB.1EF60B38@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:58:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Why is it necessary to know PAR's IP when the contexts > > > are already there ? > > For two reasons, > > 1. To avoid picking up of any Stale contexts due to frequent moving of MN. > > > > I cannot readily figure out how PAR's IP helps here.. > For example, Consider 3 ARs A, B & C MN moves from A to B, so A sends PCTD to B. But MN never sends CTAR to B but instead moves to C and sends CTAR to C with pAR as A. Now C gets the contexts from A and MN stays here for a short time and now moves back to A and immediately to B. Again A sends PCTD to B. When MN sends a CTAR to B, which PCTD should be used ? Also incase of Mobile IP where MN IP doesnot change, and MN moves from A to B (A sends PCTD to B, MN doesnot send CTAR) instead moves to C then to B(C sends PCTD to B, MN sends CTAR to B), which PCTD should B use ? > > > 2. Security. > > > > If the token matches, the MN must have had an SA > with PAR. > Probably security is not a major concern as CTP assumes prior SA (like IPSEC) between ARs to transfer CTP. regards, Raghu _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 17:29:49 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18185 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJ98-000264-JB for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:23 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KMTMYf008052 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:22 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJ98-00025k-9n for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:22 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18182 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJ95-0000kf-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:29:19 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJ88-0000gs-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:28:21 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJ7t-0000d6-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:28:05 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJ7p-0001i4-VY; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:28:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJ7A-0001Pw-Ct for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:27:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18115 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJ78-0000cD-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:27:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJ6E-0000Yz-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:26:23 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJ5W-0000VD-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:25:39 -0500 Message-ID: <067d01c3f800$8a181b70$936015ac@dclkempt40> From: "James Kempf" To: "Rajeev Koodli" Cc: "Raghu" , , References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <048301c3f7d8$35128a70$936015ac@dclkempt40> <403653AB.338955A2@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:26:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Also I suggest that the field "Previous (New) Router IP Address" > be revised to "Previous (New) Router IPv4 Address" > What happens is the router only has an IPv6 address? How about: Previous (New) Router IP address, or, in the case of dual stack routers, IPv4 address. jak _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 18:13:39 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA20716 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJpZ-0002ey-Q0 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:13:13 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1KNDDFr010217 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:13:13 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJpZ-0002ei-MB for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:13:13 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA20620 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJpW-0003wQ-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:13:10 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJoY-0003o7-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:12:10 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJnR-0003cr-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:11:01 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJnT-0001qk-Lw; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:11:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuJn7-0001kS-0b for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:10:41 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA20181 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJn4-0003Yw-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:10:38 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJm9-0003QX-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:09:42 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuJlS-0003HJ-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:08:58 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i1KN8QV26264; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:08:26 -0800 X-mProtect: <200402202308> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdLnhec0; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:08:22 PST Message-ID: <4036935C.7535EFE6@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:08:12 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Kempf CC: Raghu , seamoby@ietf.org, john.loughney@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <048301c3f7d8$35128a70$936015ac@dclkempt40> <403653AB.338955A2@iprg.nokia.com> <067 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Kempf wrote: > > Also I suggest that the field "Previous (New) Router IP Address" > > be revised to "Previous (New) Router IPv4 Address" > > > > What happens is the router only has an IPv6 address? > I hope that will be the case one day! > > How about: > > Previous (New) Router IP address, or, in the case of dual stack routers, > IPv4 address. > We could state the default is IPv4 unless no IPv4 support is available. That is, simply re-word above as PAR (NAR) IP Address, default being IPv4. -Rajeev > > jak > > _______________________________________________ > Seamoby mailing list > Seamoby@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Feb 20 21:36:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA29015 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuN0D-0002Of-Sl for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:36:26 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1L2aPHp009212 for seamoby-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:36:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuN0D-0002OV-NN for seamoby-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:36:25 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA29007 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuN0A-0002jV-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:36:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuMzI-0002g1-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:35:28 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuMys-0002cG-00 for seamoby-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:35:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuMyt-0002HT-4G; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:35:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AuMyK-0002Gm-Sy for seamoby@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:34:29 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA28947 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuMyI-0002bB-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:34:26 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuMxO-0002XO-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:33:31 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuMwk-0002Tp-00 for seamoby@ietf.org; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: <074401c3f823$12870c10$936015ac@dclkempt40> From: "James Kempf" To: "Rajeev Koodli" Cc: "Raghu" , , References: <059c01c3f5a4$63e9e360$936015ac@dclkempt40> <40341585.127EE1A7@iprg.nokia.com> <023601c3f744$49c01df0$1c6015ac@dcldendukuri> <40355C74.22D0A058@iprg.nokia.com> <048301c3f7d8$35128a70$936015ac@dclkempt40> <403653AB.338955A2@iprg.nokia.com> <067 <4036935C.7535EFE6@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:33:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: seamoby-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: seamoby-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: seamoby@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Context Transfer, Handoff Candidate Discovery, and Dormant Mode Host Alerting List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds fine. I'll write up the changes and send them to Allison. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajeev Koodli" To: "James Kempf" Cc: "Raghu" ; ; Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Seamoby] DoCoMo Implementation Issues with CTP > James Kempf wrote: > > > > Also I suggest that the field "Previous (New) Router IP Address" > > > be revised to "Previous (New) Router IPv4 Address" > > > > > > > What happens is the router only has an IPv6 address? > > > > I hope that will be the case one day! > > > > > How about: > > > > Previous (New) Router IP address, or, in the case of dual stack routers, > > IPv4 address. > > > > We could state the default is IPv4 unless no IPv4 support is available. > That is, simply re-word above as PAR (NAR) IP Address, default > being IPv4. > > -Rajeev > > > > > > jak > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Seamoby mailing list > > Seamoby@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby > > _______________________________________________ Seamoby mailing list Seamoby@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby From ynpfswwqqg@carnival.com Sat Feb 21 06:34:37 2004 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA27224 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuVP4-0004N0-00 for seamoby-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:34:38 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AuVOF-0004Jr-00 for seamoby-archive@ietf.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:33:52 -0500 Received: from 24-47-237-24.gci.net ([24.237.47.24]) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AuVNg-0004Gy-00; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:33:14 -0500 Received: from 96.40.36.97 by 132.151.6.1; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:36:54 -0100 Message-ID: From: "Billy Davison"