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Hi James,

> I believe the intent is to get input from a potential customer of CTP, =
and
> header compression context has always been a top potential customer.

That is what I thought, but I just wanted to make sure.
=20
> > > The CARD draft has undergone IESG review. The following=20
> list contains
> the
> > > issues and a suggested resolution.
> >
> > Was the list just for CARD?
> >
>=20
> The only point that specifically applied to CTP as well was the ICMP =
type
> code point. The solution I worked out with Thomas and Allison was one =
type
> code for both protocols, and a separate draft requesting IANA =
allocation.

OK.
=20
> I suspect we might see similar comments from the Security ADs about =
CTP,
> since the level of detail in the security design for CTP is =
approximately
> the same as for CARD. I suggest we wait until they've had a chance to =
review
> it first, however, unless I my dialog with them about CARD suggests =
that
> they would be happy with a similar solution.

Sounds good.  Thanks for the details.

John

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Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 1.85
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 1.85
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 1.85
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.40
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.40
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Is it customary that a draft is reviewed by another WG before going to IESG?
Would the CTP draft go to IESG after ROHC review?
What if it is not customized enough for Rohc application?

Madjid

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Subject: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts


I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby drafts.
The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG. The CARD draft
has undergone IESG review. The following list contains the issues and a
suggested resolution.

1) (This issue applies to CTP too) CARD requests allocation of a number of
ICMP type codes. These type codes are limited to 255 total. Since CARD is
experimental, it is possible that it will never be deployed and the type
codes will therefore become unavailable for other protocols that might be
deployed.

Suggested solution: Seamoby will ask IANA for a single type code per IP
version, one for IPv4 and one for IPv6, that is used for all Seamoby ICMP
based protocols. The subtype code will indicate the actual message type.
Seamoby will generate a third draft with IANA instructions (which I
volunteer to author) that the two protocol drafts will refer to.

2) Ted Hardie expressed an objection to the use of multicast. The objection
was that the amount of data that would have to be multicast would be
expected to be large. Also, as is the case with the ICMP types, multicast
would consume an IPv4 multicast address for an experimental protocol that
would probably never be deployed.

Suggested solution: remove multicast from the protocol for initial
publication.

3) Russ Housley gave the following editorial comments:

 Expand 'AP' and 'PCF' the first time they are used.

  In section 3.2: s/optimized handover/optimal handover/

Suggested solution: fix the text.

4) Security issues. From Russ Housley:

Section 4.6 and section 5.2.1 say:
  >
  > IPSec ESP MUST be used with a non-null integrity protection and
  > origin authentication algorithm and SHOULD be used with a non-null
  > encryption algorithm for protecting the confidentiality of the CARD
  > information.
  >
  This is not sufficient.  Where do the cryptographic keys come from?
  Is IKE required?

  I expected section 6.3 to discuss the establishment of security
  associations for IPsec ESP, but it does not.

Related followup from Steve Bellovin:

I agree with Russ' comments on establishing IPsec SAs.  Beyond that, how
does a mobile node know who is authorized to be an AR?  This is especially
problematic when roaming between domains.

Protecting ICMP messages with IPsec can be difficult.  The authors need to
do a full-fledged design to make sure that it can be done.  The experience
of the SEND group may be relevant.

What in the CARD messages may need to be confidential, and hence require
encryption?  The analysis needs to be done here, so that users of this spec
know when to turn it on.

Suggested solution: I volunteer come with some text to replace the current
security considerations section that utilizes the SEND router certificate
and CGA to verify the node's right to claim the address, and that gives a
short discussion of threats. I'll negotiate with Russ and Steve on the text.

            jak



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ROHC is considered to be a potential "customer" of CTP, and therefore a
review by ROHC should determine if it would meet their needs. In general,
ADs have an obligation to ensure that a document receives sufficient review
prior to submitting it to the IESG. The ROHC group won't be looking for
specific features to support the ROHC application, but whether they can
build their header compression context transfer on top of CTP.

        jak

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From: "Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1" <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com>
To: "'James Kempf'" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts


> Is it customary that a draft is reviewed by another WG before going to
IESG?
> Would the CTP draft go to IESG after ROHC review?
> What if it is not customized enough for Rohc application?
>
> Madjid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seamoby-admin@ietf.org [mailto:seamoby-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> James Kempf
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:08 AM
> To: seamoby@ietf.org
> Cc: mankin@psg.com
> Subject: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
>
>
> I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby drafts.
> The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG. The CARD
draft
> has undergone IESG review. The following list contains the issues and a
> suggested resolution.
>
> 1) (This issue applies to CTP too) CARD requests allocation of a number of
> ICMP type codes. These type codes are limited to 255 total. Since CARD is
> experimental, it is possible that it will never be deployed and the type
> codes will therefore become unavailable for other protocols that might be
> deployed.
>
> Suggested solution: Seamoby will ask IANA for a single type code per IP
> version, one for IPv4 and one for IPv6, that is used for all Seamoby ICMP
> based protocols. The subtype code will indicate the actual message type.
> Seamoby will generate a third draft with IANA instructions (which I
> volunteer to author) that the two protocol drafts will refer to.
>
> 2) Ted Hardie expressed an objection to the use of multicast. The
objection
> was that the amount of data that would have to be multicast would be
> expected to be large. Also, as is the case with the ICMP types, multicast
> would consume an IPv4 multicast address for an experimental protocol that
> would probably never be deployed.
>
> Suggested solution: remove multicast from the protocol for initial
> publication.
>
> 3) Russ Housley gave the following editorial comments:
>
>  Expand 'AP' and 'PCF' the first time they are used.
>
>   In section 3.2: s/optimized handover/optimal handover/
>
> Suggested solution: fix the text.
>
> 4) Security issues. From Russ Housley:
>
> Section 4.6 and section 5.2.1 say:
>   >
>   > IPSec ESP MUST be used with a non-null integrity protection and
>   > origin authentication algorithm and SHOULD be used with a non-null
>   > encryption algorithm for protecting the confidentiality of the CARD
>   > information.
>   >
>   This is not sufficient.  Where do the cryptographic keys come from?
>   Is IKE required?
>
>   I expected section 6.3 to discuss the establishment of security
>   associations for IPsec ESP, but it does not.
>
> Related followup from Steve Bellovin:
>
> I agree with Russ' comments on establishing IPsec SAs.  Beyond that, how
> does a mobile node know who is authorized to be an AR?  This is especially
> problematic when roaming between domains.
>
> Protecting ICMP messages with IPsec can be difficult.  The authors need to
> do a full-fledged design to make sure that it can be done.  The experience
> of the SEND group may be relevant.
>
> What in the CARD messages may need to be confidential, and hence require
> encryption?  The analysis needs to be done here, so that users of this
spec
> know when to turn it on.
>
> Suggested solution: I volunteer come with some text to replace the current
> security considerations section that utilizes the SEND router certificate
> and CGA to verify the node's right to claim the address, and that gives a
> short discussion of threats. I'll negotiate with Russ and Steve on the
text.
>
>             jak
>
>
>
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Ok, All makes sense. I am just wondering what the course of action would be
if CTP does not meet Rohc needs?

Madjid

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ROHC is considered to be a potential "customer" of CTP, and therefore a
review by ROHC should determine if it would meet their needs. In general,
ADs have an obligation to ensure that a document receives sufficient review
prior to submitting it to the IESG. The ROHC group won't be looking for
specific features to support the ROHC application, but whether they can
build their header compression context transfer on top of CTP.

        jak

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Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts


> Is it customary that a draft is reviewed by another WG before going to
IESG?
> Would the CTP draft go to IESG after ROHC review?
> What if it is not customized enough for Rohc application?
>
> Madjid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seamoby-admin@ietf.org [mailto:seamoby-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> James Kempf
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:08 AM
> To: seamoby@ietf.org
> Cc: mankin@psg.com
> Subject: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
>
>
> I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby drafts.
> The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG. The CARD
draft
> has undergone IESG review. The following list contains the issues and a
> suggested resolution.
>
> 1) (This issue applies to CTP too) CARD requests allocation of a number of
> ICMP type codes. These type codes are limited to 255 total. Since CARD is
> experimental, it is possible that it will never be deployed and the type
> codes will therefore become unavailable for other protocols that might be
> deployed.
>
> Suggested solution: Seamoby will ask IANA for a single type code per IP
> version, one for IPv4 and one for IPv6, that is used for all Seamoby ICMP
> based protocols. The subtype code will indicate the actual message type.
> Seamoby will generate a third draft with IANA instructions (which I
> volunteer to author) that the two protocol drafts will refer to.
>
> 2) Ted Hardie expressed an objection to the use of multicast. The
objection
> was that the amount of data that would have to be multicast would be
> expected to be large. Also, as is the case with the ICMP types, multicast
> would consume an IPv4 multicast address for an experimental protocol that
> would probably never be deployed.
>
> Suggested solution: remove multicast from the protocol for initial
> publication.
>
> 3) Russ Housley gave the following editorial comments:
>
>  Expand 'AP' and 'PCF' the first time they are used.
>
>   In section 3.2: s/optimized handover/optimal handover/
>
> Suggested solution: fix the text.
>
> 4) Security issues. From Russ Housley:
>
> Section 4.6 and section 5.2.1 say:
>   >
>   > IPSec ESP MUST be used with a non-null integrity protection and
>   > origin authentication algorithm and SHOULD be used with a non-null
>   > encryption algorithm for protecting the confidentiality of the CARD
>   > information.
>   >
>   This is not sufficient.  Where do the cryptographic keys come from?
>   Is IKE required?
>
>   I expected section 6.3 to discuss the establishment of security
>   associations for IPsec ESP, but it does not.
>
> Related followup from Steve Bellovin:
>
> I agree with Russ' comments on establishing IPsec SAs.  Beyond that, how
> does a mobile node know who is authorized to be an AR?  This is especially
> problematic when roaming between domains.
>
> Protecting ICMP messages with IPsec can be difficult.  The authors need to
> do a full-fledged design to make sure that it can be done.  The experience
> of the SEND group may be relevant.
>
> What in the CARD messages may need to be confidential, and hence require
> encryption?  The analysis needs to be done here, so that users of this
spec
> know when to turn it on.
>
> Suggested solution: I volunteer come with some text to replace the current
> security considerations section that utilizes the SEND router certificate
> and CGA to verify the node's right to claim the address, and that gives a
> short discussion of threats. I'll negotiate with Russ and Steve on the
text.
>
>             jak
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
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I assume Allison would at that point return the draft to us with their
comments and require us to fix it before sending it to the IESG. She might
edit the comments based on her technical assessment if there were some that
she thought were not appropriate.

            jak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1" <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com>
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Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts


> Ok, All makes sense. I am just wondering what the course of action would
be
> if CTP does not meet Rohc needs?
>
> Madjid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Kempf [mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:56 PM
> To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; seamoby@ietf.org
> Cc: mankin@psg.com
> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
>
>
> ROHC is considered to be a potential "customer" of CTP, and therefore a
> review by ROHC should determine if it would meet their needs. In general,
> ADs have an obligation to ensure that a document receives sufficient
review
> prior to submitting it to the IESG. The ROHC group won't be looking for
> specific features to support the ROHC application, but whether they can
> build their header compression context transfer on top of CTP.
>
>         jak
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1" <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com>
> To: "'James Kempf'" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; <seamoby@ietf.org>
> Cc: <mankin@psg.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
>
>
> > Is it customary that a draft is reviewed by another WG before going to
> IESG?
> > Would the CTP draft go to IESG after ROHC review?
> > What if it is not customized enough for Rohc application?
> >
> > Madjid
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: seamoby-admin@ietf.org [mailto:seamoby-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> > James Kempf
> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:08 AM
> > To: seamoby@ietf.org
> > Cc: mankin@psg.com
> > Subject: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
> >
> >
> > I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby
drafts.
> > The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG. The CARD
> draft
> > has undergone IESG review. The following list contains the issues and a
> > suggested resolution.
> >
> > 1) (This issue applies to CTP too) CARD requests allocation of a number
of
> > ICMP type codes. These type codes are limited to 255 total. Since CARD
is
> > experimental, it is possible that it will never be deployed and the type
> > codes will therefore become unavailable for other protocols that might
be
> > deployed.
> >
> > Suggested solution: Seamoby will ask IANA for a single type code per IP
> > version, one for IPv4 and one for IPv6, that is used for all Seamoby
ICMP
> > based protocols. The subtype code will indicate the actual message type.
> > Seamoby will generate a third draft with IANA instructions (which I
> > volunteer to author) that the two protocol drafts will refer to.
> >
> > 2) Ted Hardie expressed an objection to the use of multicast. The
> objection
> > was that the amount of data that would have to be multicast would be
> > expected to be large. Also, as is the case with the ICMP types,
multicast
> > would consume an IPv4 multicast address for an experimental protocol
that
> > would probably never be deployed.
> >
> > Suggested solution: remove multicast from the protocol for initial
> > publication.
> >
> > 3) Russ Housley gave the following editorial comments:
> >
> >  Expand 'AP' and 'PCF' the first time they are used.
> >
> >   In section 3.2: s/optimized handover/optimal handover/
> >
> > Suggested solution: fix the text.
> >
> > 4) Security issues. From Russ Housley:
> >
> > Section 4.6 and section 5.2.1 say:
> >   >
> >   > IPSec ESP MUST be used with a non-null integrity protection and
> >   > origin authentication algorithm and SHOULD be used with a non-null
> >   > encryption algorithm for protecting the confidentiality of the CARD
> >   > information.
> >   >
> >   This is not sufficient.  Where do the cryptographic keys come from?
> >   Is IKE required?
> >
> >   I expected section 6.3 to discuss the establishment of security
> >   associations for IPsec ESP, but it does not.
> >
> > Related followup from Steve Bellovin:
> >
> > I agree with Russ' comments on establishing IPsec SAs.  Beyond that, how
> > does a mobile node know who is authorized to be an AR?  This is
especially
> > problematic when roaming between domains.
> >
> > Protecting ICMP messages with IPsec can be difficult.  The authors need
to
> > do a full-fledged design to make sure that it can be done.  The
experience
> > of the SEND group may be relevant.
> >
> > What in the CARD messages may need to be confidential, and hence require
> > encryption?  The analysis needs to be done here, so that users of this
> spec
> > know when to turn it on.
> >
> > Suggested solution: I volunteer come with some text to replace the
current
> > security considerations section that utilizes the SEND router
certificate
> > and CGA to verify the node's right to claim the address, and that gives
a
> > short discussion of threats. I'll negotiate with Russ and Steve on the
> text.
> >
> >             jak
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Seamoby mailing list
> > Seamoby@ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
> >
>


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All,

Actually, there's been a little bit of misunderstanding of my message about the
CTP draft, which is easy to have happen, because we were all very busy during
the IETF week.  What I meant was that I had to talk with some ROHC people about CTP,
not that ROHC _WG_ review of the document would be required.  

Why is this?  It's due to some commitment that was made in the Vienna Seamoby 
meeting to deliver Seamoby with a use case, which I understood would probably be
header compression context.  The minutes show an action item to work with Carsten
Bormann to make this concrete.  We discussed the need for the use case that
would describe a context very well defined in IETF, with ROHC header compression
meeting that criterion.  If contexts for context transfer are just open-ended,
and there isn't an clear use case, it's hard to build support for this
protocol in the broader IETF (not only the IESG - we had a lot* of questions
about this charter item when the WG was formed).  

So, I've done a little talking and looking at the document.  The example of a
service that was supposed to be covered in Appendix C is missing.  There is no 
companion document describing a use case.  What's up?

Allison

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.25
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.25
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to 
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year 
based on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), 
incredibly solid numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.25
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE MOST 
UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of subscribers for substant=
ial 
profits immediately! 
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume 
indicating heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger thi=
ngs to 
come for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste 
materials into electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand=
 that 
it is impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety 
of waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on 
the global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe 
process converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as 
Municipal Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical 
wastes, industrial wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and=
 
the huge market of used tires. LETH profits from the sale of 
electricity created from the waste conversion on a continuous basis by gen=
erating 
5 to 10 mega-watts per hour of electricity which is then sold to 
replenish the local or national grid.

(Mar 3 '04) LETH Releases Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News

LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net 
profit of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is 
scheduled to receive an additional $7 Million translating into an 
additional .24 cents per share which is the balance of this completed cont=
ract 
over the next 6 months. The net profit per share from just this single 
contract would value the stock above $6 by calculating the .36 cents 
per share total at an average industry PE of 18 - 22. 

Examining LETH - By The Numbers:

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 
million shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 
Million per Biosphere Process System! 

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, 
and electrical management consulting services primarily for the US 
Government with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate t=
he 
securing of necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide 
monitoring of the Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now 
in the process of obtaining Department of Environmental Quality 
permitting for the Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a =

monumental event for LETH which opens the floodgates for major project 
revenues in Louisiana while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the =

form of a huge near-term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that 
pattern is repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released 
with some very big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at =

any price level with the technology or exponential sales growth to 
match LETH, while simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major =

profits as global demand to solve two crises areas, waste and electrical 
energy, reaches unprecedented levels. 

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR cautions 
that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and that some 
or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR recommend=
s 
you use the information found here as an initial starting point for 
conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the featured 
company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the company 
before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial Planning 
Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is not 
offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies. MMSR is=
 
not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to buy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e 
we have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest 
in our statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are 
cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which=
 are 
based on certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks 
and uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from 
those set forth in the forward looking statements.

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Hi Allison,

> So, I've done a little talking and looking at the document.  The example
of a
> service that was supposed to be covered in Appendix C is missing.  There
is no
> companion document describing a use case.  What's up?
>

At the Vienna meeting, there was a lot of discussion about the need for
context transfer for header compression. The ROHC experts seem to be divided
on this, and predictably the opponents of context transfer from ROHC came
out in force in Vienna to shoot down the proposal to include header
compression as an example for CTP when they heard it was on the agenda.
Since it really isn't a Seamoby issue whether ROHC agrees on the need for
header compression or not, it did not seem fair nor worthwhile to hold up
the CTP draft until ROHC came to concensus about the need for header
compression. The WG, noting the desire of the IESG to quickly finish the
work and close down Seamoby as soon as possible, decided that Rajeev Koodli
and Carsten would pursue a ROHC context specification in parallel, and the
CTP draft would include a simpler example, on which everybody could agree
that context transfer would make a difference. That example is in Appendix
B, multicast listener context, and it contains some calculations which
illustrate how CTP could improve handover performance. Note that this
doesn't mean the people who thought there is value in header compression
context transfer have now given up that view. Rajeev has done some excellent
experiments that indicate a significant benefit from header compression
context transfer, and he was planning on presenting the data at the MOBOPTS
meeting in Seoul, but we ran out of time. I think the feeling now seems to
be that MOBOPTS would be a better context (so to speak) for discussing the
header compression context transfer, since determining the value of context
transfer for header compression requires carefully designed experiments
rather than loud microphone action.

So, I think some in the WG may be concerned that approval of Seamoby CTP for
 publication could be held up pending a resolution of the dispute within the
ROHC WG about the value of context transfer for header compression. The
multicast listener context transfer example in Appendix B was supposed to
provide the use case you are looking for. Do you think that is sufficient or
should there be more?

            jak


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Hi Allison, James,

Thank you James for the clarification and I actually do have the concern
you brought up.

Allison, I understood the committment to be by Rajeev and Carsten to review
the feasibility of CTP for Rohc. Was that discussed as a pre-requisite
for CTP to go IESG review? especially since CTP is going to be an
_experimental_ RFC anyway? I guessed I missed that part!!

I for one did give the warning that Rohc of all protocols has the toughest
requirements on CTP timing and so on, but I guess the balls had already
 started rolling! Our original TEXT draft (pre-design team) did bring
up a whole bunch of issues that any CT protocol would need to overcome
when dealing  with header compression.

A bunch of other protocols were suggested in Wienna for a simpler
CTP deployment and they were knocked down.

After all that and all the tears, sweat we dropped over CTP in the
last 3-4 years, it is surprising to see the ADs bring up the discussions
and doubts they had about CT at time of WG formation!!! 
Why was the WG formed and the item accepted then?
After all, IETF is based on people doing volunteer work, 
earning daily bread elsewhere.
IESG should strive keep those people put and motivated rather than pulling
items out after 4 years.

Finally, I personally had ramped down my CTP volunteer work mid last year
due to other committments. I applaud other authors, especially Rajeev
for carrying the load and I have no doubt about the quality of Rajeev's
 work on Rohc CTP, but I still see this process as a surprisingly stringent one.

Regards,

Madjid

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All,

Actually, there's been a little bit of misunderstanding of my message about the
CTP draft, which is easy to have happen, because we were all very busy during
the IETF week.  What I meant was that I had to talk with some ROHC people about CTP,
not that ROHC _WG_ review of the document would be required.  

Why is this?  It's due to some commitment that was made in the Vienna Seamoby 
meeting to deliver Seamoby with a use case, which I understood would probably be
header compression context.  The minutes show an action item to work with Carsten
Bormann to make this concrete.  We discussed the need for the use case that
would describe a context very well defined in IETF, with ROHC header compression
meeting that criterion.  If contexts for context transfer are just open-ended,
and there isn't an clear use case, it's hard to build support for this
protocol in the broader IETF (not only the IESG - we had a lot* of questions
about this charter item when the WG was formed).  

So, I've done a little talking and looking at the document.  The example of a
service that was supposed to be covered in Appendix C is missing.  There is no 
companion document describing a use case.  What's up?

Allison

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Hi Madjid,

I'm sure the WG appreciates the efforts of everyone involved in the author
team, certainly I do. Seamoby has not been an easy working group to
participate in. Any good quality work that happens has had to push against
that headwind, and therefore should be doubly valued.

Regarding your question about ROHC review, Allison and I had discussed
having CTP reviewed by someone from the ROHC WG,  and I actually had invited
Carsten to be on the informal Review Board, though he never responded to my
email. So there has been a longer term idea there to have ROHC, as a
customer of CTP, review the design prior to submitting it to the IESG. This
kind of broad, cross area review is considered one of the strong points of
developing a technology in IETF, and that applies to experimental work as
well. It doesn't mean that CTP can be vetoed by ROHC, just that any concerns
they have, as customers, need to be take into account.

Regarding your question about why Seamoby was chartered when there were
fundamental doubts about CT, etc., it is actually fairly atypical on the IAB
and IESG that everyone agrees with a working group charter in IETF if the
chartered work is doing something relatively new that IETF has not done
before (and also in some cases where the work is not new). A recent example
is the CAPWAP work. So the Seamoby CT work is not any different in this
respect. The difference in the case of Seamoby is that the WG spent 3 years
arguing about requirements and was unable to come to concensus on a set of
requirements that made sense, so the IESG has been understandably reluctant
to continue to support the work given the lack of any discernable quality
output. In fact, we are lucky that the IESG, as part of their management
function, didn't simply shut down the WG last year. As a way to summarize
and document the WG's experience with the technologies under discussion and
allow participants to take away a publication, Allison, Pat, and I decided
last year to request the WG to move the protocol drafts to experimental,
which the WG approved, allowing the IESG review to be somewhat lighter. But
this doesn't mean that there is no review at all. It is still part of
Allison's job to see that the documents are reviewed, and any substantive
comments she or any reviewers she recruits uncover need to be addressed.

Regarding your ramping down your work on CT, I understand that you and other
participants on the author team are no longer actively working on CT. This
is a fairly usual occurance in a WG where the outcome is less than what was
originally hoped. As chair, I've got the responsibility to see that any
reviewer comments are addressed so the documents can be published, in fact,
I'm in the process of doing that now for the CARD draft. I will, of course,
pass the results by the WG for comment, but since the drafts are now
effectively out of the WGs hands, we do need to address any comments that
come from AD or IESG review to the satisfaction of the IESG, and not simply
dismiss them, or the drafts will not be published.

Hope that answers your concerns.

            jak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1" <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com>
To: "'Allison Mankin'" <mankin@psg.com>; "James Kempf"
<kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
Cc: <seamoby@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts


> Hi Allison, James,
>
> Thank you James for the clarification and I actually do have the concern
> you brought up.
>
> Allison, I understood the committment to be by Rajeev and Carsten to
review
> the feasibility of CTP for Rohc. Was that discussed as a pre-requisite
> for CTP to go IESG review? especially since CTP is going to be an
> _experimental_ RFC anyway? I guessed I missed that part!!
>
> I for one did give the warning that Rohc of all protocols has the toughest
> requirements on CTP timing and so on, but I guess the balls had already
>  started rolling! Our original TEXT draft (pre-design team) did bring
> up a whole bunch of issues that any CT protocol would need to overcome
> when dealing  with header compression.
>
> A bunch of other protocols were suggested in Wienna for a simpler
> CTP deployment and they were knocked down.
>
> After all that and all the tears, sweat we dropped over CTP in the
> last 3-4 years, it is surprising to see the ADs bring up the discussions
> and doubts they had about CT at time of WG formation!!!
> Why was the WG formed and the item accepted then?
> After all, IETF is based on people doing volunteer work,
> earning daily bread elsewhere.
> IESG should strive keep those people put and motivated rather than pulling
> items out after 4 years.
>
> Finally, I personally had ramped down my CTP volunteer work mid last year
> due to other committments. I applaud other authors, especially Rajeev
> for carrying the load and I have no doubt about the quality of Rajeev's
>  work on Rohc CTP, but I still see this process as a surprisingly
stringent one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Madjid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allison Mankin [mailto:mankin@psg.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:18 PM
> To: James Kempf
> Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; seamoby@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
>
>
> All,
>
> Actually, there's been a little bit of misunderstanding of my message
about the
> CTP draft, which is easy to have happen, because we were all very busy
during
> the IETF week.  What I meant was that I had to talk with some ROHC people
about CTP,
> not that ROHC _WG_ review of the document would be required.
>
> Why is this?  It's due to some commitment that was made in the Vienna
Seamoby
> meeting to deliver Seamoby with a use case, which I understood would
probably be
> header compression context.  The minutes show an action item to work with
Carsten
> Bormann to make this concrete.  We discussed the need for the use case
that
> would describe a context very well defined in IETF, with ROHC header
compression
> meeting that criterion.  If contexts for context transfer are just
open-ended,
> and there isn't an clear use case, it's hard to build support for this
> protocol in the broader IETF (not only the IESG - we had a lot* of
questions
> about this charter item when the WG was formed).
>
> So, I've done a little talking and looking at the document.  The example
of a
> service that was supposed to be covered in Appendix C is missing.  There
is no
> companion document describing a use case.  What's up?
>
> Allison
>
> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/03jul/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Hi James,

Thank you for the background and the IAB point of view explanation on
seamoby as a group. I guess IAB IESG also works on "rough-consensus"
and is not all clean cut as it looks to outsiders :)

Just one point, we did not spend 3 years on requirements, both the
original problem description and final protocol design went along
without too much fanfare. Unfortunately the requirement phase went through
lengthy debates due to I must say too broad customer-base (quite the contrary
to what it is now :) ) and a major part of the delay (over 6 months)
was due to the requirement draft sitting with IESG for whatever reason.
I understand the load IESG is dealing with, but the WG cannot be
held responsible for that. Maybe we should have started protocol discussions
instead of waiting, or maybe we did need the time to cool off :)

Anyhow, Thank you for carrying the load and getting it all done.

Regards,

Madjid

-----Original Message-----
From: James Kempf [mailto:kempf@docomolabs-usa.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:07 AM
To: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; 'Allison Mankin'
Cc: seamoby@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts 


Hi Madjid,

I'm sure the WG appreciates the efforts of everyone involved in the author
team, certainly I do. Seamoby has not been an easy working group to
participate in. Any good quality work that happens has had to push against
that headwind, and therefore should be doubly valued.

Regarding your question about ROHC review, Allison and I had discussed
having CTP reviewed by someone from the ROHC WG,  and I actually had invited
Carsten to be on the informal Review Board, though he never responded to my
email. So there has been a longer term idea there to have ROHC, as a
customer of CTP, review the design prior to submitting it to the IESG. This
kind of broad, cross area review is considered one of the strong points of
developing a technology in IETF, and that applies to experimental work as
well. It doesn't mean that CTP can be vetoed by ROHC, just that any concerns
they have, as customers, need to be take into account.

Regarding your question about why Seamoby was chartered when there were
fundamental doubts about CT, etc., it is actually fairly atypical on the IAB
and IESG that everyone agrees with a working group charter in IETF if the
chartered work is doing something relatively new that IETF has not done
before (and also in some cases where the work is not new). A recent example
is the CAPWAP work. So the Seamoby CT work is not any different in this
respect. The difference in the case of Seamoby is that the WG spent 3 years
arguing about requirements and was unable to come to concensus on a set of
requirements that made sense, so the IESG has been understandably reluctant
to continue to support the work given the lack of any discernable quality
output. In fact, we are lucky that the IESG, as part of their management
function, didn't simply shut down the WG last year. As a way to summarize
and document the WG's experience with the technologies under discussion and
allow participants to take away a publication, Allison, Pat, and I decided
last year to request the WG to move the protocol drafts to experimental,
which the WG approved, allowing the IESG review to be somewhat lighter. But
this doesn't mean that there is no review at all. It is still part of
Allison's job to see that the documents are reviewed, and any substantive
comments she or any reviewers she recruits uncover need to be addressed.

Regarding your ramping down your work on CT, I understand that you and other
participants on the author team are no longer actively working on CT. This
is a fairly usual occurance in a WG where the outcome is less than what was
originally hoped. As chair, I've got the responsibility to see that any
reviewer comments are addressed so the documents can be published, in fact,
I'm in the process of doing that now for the CARD draft. I will, of course,
pass the results by the WG for comment, but since the drafts are now
effectively out of the WGs hands, we do need to address any comments that
come from AD or IESG review to the satisfaction of the IESG, and not simply
dismiss them, or the drafts will not be published.

Hope that answers your concerns.

            jak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1" <Madjid.Nakhjiri@motorola.com>
To: "'Allison Mankin'" <mankin@psg.com>; "James Kempf"
<kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
Cc: <seamoby@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts


> Hi Allison, James,
>
> Thank you James for the clarification and I actually do have the concern
> you brought up.
>
> Allison, I understood the committment to be by Rajeev and Carsten to
review
> the feasibility of CTP for Rohc. Was that discussed as a pre-requisite
> for CTP to go IESG review? especially since CTP is going to be an
> _experimental_ RFC anyway? I guessed I missed that part!!
>
> I for one did give the warning that Rohc of all protocols has the toughest
> requirements on CTP timing and so on, but I guess the balls had already
>  started rolling! Our original TEXT draft (pre-design team) did bring
> up a whole bunch of issues that any CT protocol would need to overcome
> when dealing  with header compression.
>
> A bunch of other protocols were suggested in Wienna for a simpler
> CTP deployment and they were knocked down.
>
> After all that and all the tears, sweat we dropped over CTP in the
> last 3-4 years, it is surprising to see the ADs bring up the discussions
> and doubts they had about CT at time of WG formation!!!
> Why was the WG formed and the item accepted then?
> After all, IETF is based on people doing volunteer work,
> earning daily bread elsewhere.
> IESG should strive keep those people put and motivated rather than pulling
> items out after 4 years.
>
> Finally, I personally had ramped down my CTP volunteer work mid last year
> due to other committments. I applaud other authors, especially Rajeev
> for carrying the load and I have no doubt about the quality of Rajeev's
>  work on Rohc CTP, but I still see this process as a surprisingly
stringent one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Madjid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allison Mankin [mailto:mankin@psg.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:18 PM
> To: James Kempf
> Cc: Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1; seamoby@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts
>
>
> All,
>
> Actually, there's been a little bit of misunderstanding of my message
about the
> CTP draft, which is easy to have happen, because we were all very busy
during
> the IETF week.  What I meant was that I had to talk with some ROHC people
about CTP,
> not that ROHC _WG_ review of the document would be required.
>
> Why is this?  It's due to some commitment that was made in the Vienna
Seamoby
> meeting to deliver Seamoby with a use case, which I understood would
probably be
> header compression context.  The minutes show an action item to work with
Carsten
> Bormann to make this concrete.  We discussed the need for the use case
that
> would describe a context very well defined in IETF, with ROHC header
compression
> meeting that criterion.  If contexts for context transfer are just
open-ended,
> and there isn't an clear use case, it's hard to build support for this
> protocol in the broader IETF (not only the IESG - we had a lot* of
questions
> about this charter item when the WG was formed).
>
> So, I've done a little talking and looking at the document.  The example
of a
> service that was supposed to be covered in Appendix C is missing.  There
is no
> companion document describing a use case.  What's up?
>
> Allison
>
> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/03jul/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
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AD Review of the CTP draft (draft-ietf-seamoby-ctp-08.txt) is now complete.
The review by someone from the ROHC WG turned up no issues. However, in
discussions with Allison, there were a couple issues that arose. They are
listed below. Prior to submitting a revised draft to the IESG for review,
Allison and I would like to obtain resolution on these issues. Please send
comments to the list by next Fri. (March 19).

            jak

-------------------------------

Issue 1
--------

Issue: The MLD example in Appendix B as written is not very persuasive. The
3G protocols don't use ND, and 802.11 is fast enough that it wouldn't make
much difference.

Suggested resolution: Replace the first paragraph of Appendix B with the
following:

   In the past, credible proposals have been made in the Seamoby Working
Group
   and elsewhere for using context transfer to speed handover of
authentication, authorization,
   and accounting information, distributed firewall state, PPP context, and
header
   compression context. Because the Working Group was not chartered to
   develop context profile definitions for specific applications, none of
the proposals
   submitted to Seamoby were accepted as Working Group items. At this time,
work
   continues to develop a context profile definition for RFC 3095 header
compression
   context [RFC3095] and to characterize the performance gains obtainable by
using
   header compression, but the work is not yet complete. In addition, there
are several
   commercial wireless products that reportedly use non-standard,
non-interoperable
   context transfer protocols.

   As a consequence, it is difficult at this time to point to with a solid
example of
   how context transfer could result in a commercially viable, widely
deployable,
   interoperable benefit  for wireless networks. This is one reason why CTP
is being
   proposed as an Experimental protocol, rather than Standards Track.
However, it
   nevertheless seems valuable to have a simple example that shows how
handover
   could benefit from using CTP. As an example of how context transfer can
improve the
   performance of IP layer handover, we consider transferring IPv6 MLD state
[RFC2710].
   MLD state is a particularly good example because every IPv6 node must
  perform two MLD messaging sequences on the wireless link to establish
   itself as an MLD listener prior to performing router discovery
   [RFC2461] or duplicate address detection [RFC2462] or before
   sending/receiving any application-specific traffic (including Mobile
   IP handover signaling, if any). The node must subscribe to the Soli-
   cited Node Multicast Address as soon as it comes up on the link. Any
   application-specific multicast addresses must be re-established as
   well. Context transfer can significantly speed up re-establishing
   multicast state by allowing the nAR to initialize MLD for a node that
   just completed handover; without any MLD signaling on the new wire-
   less link. The same approach could be used for transferring multicast
   context in IPv4.

and add the following paragraph after the second paragraph Appendix B in the
current draft:

   This example might seem a bit contrived because MLD isn't used in typical
   cellular protocols and wireless local area network protocols typically
have
   enough bandwidth that sending a single MLD message might not be viewed
   as such a performance burden. An example of a wireless protocol where MLD
   context transfer might be useful is IEEE 802.15.1 (Bluetooth). IEEE
802.15.1 has
   two IP "profiles": one with and one without PPP. The profile without PPP
would
   use MLD. 802.15.1 has a maximum bandwidth of about 800kbps, shared
between
   all nodes on the link, so a host on a moderately loaded 802.15.1 access
point could
   experience the kind of bandwith described in the previous paragraph. In
addition
   802.15.1 handover times typically run upwards of a second or more because
the
   host must resynchronize its frequency hopping pattern with the access
point, so
   anything the IP layer could do to to alleviate further delay would be
beneficial.

and removing the following two sentences from the second paragraph in
Appendix B:

  The former is approximate for a narrowband 3G cel-
   lular links and the latter for a heavily utilized 802.11b WLAN link,
   both running Voice over IP (VoIP).

  Considering most ATM-based 3G voice cellular pro-
   tocols try to keep total voice handover delay less than 40- 80 msec.,
   MLD signaling could have a large impact on the performance of inter-
   subnet VoIP handover.

Issue 2
--------

Issue: The draft as written specifies using UDP without retransmit for the
transport protocol. This is not acceptable from a congestion control and
usability standpoint, the points made in Appendix  A about timing
notwidthstanding. Both Allison and James brought up these issues at various
times during the requirements discussion and during previous reviews of the
draft.

The issue with UDP is that CTP is expected to be used frequently between
access routers in a wide area network, like between two hotspot clusters
connected by T1 or other low capacity lines. Since access networks of these
types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the frequency
of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be high
enough to render the protocol unusable in general. While the Working Group
could develop a specialized UDP retransmit algorithm, there is no need since
both TCP and SCTP could provide adequate performance for CTP. Below are two
suggestions for resolution of the issue, and a preferred resolution.

Suggestion 1: Use TCP.

The advantage of this suggestion is that TCP is already widely implemented
and is well understood, so it could serve for immediate implementation and
experiment. The disadvantage is that TCP provides no way to control the
retransmit timer in general, so the timeliness of the transfer could not be
assured without additional measures.

Suggestion 2: Use SCTP.

The advantage of using SCTP is that it provides a partial reliability mode
which allows the retransmit timer to be set. This would allow the timeliness
of the transfer to be controlled. The disadvantage is that SCTP is not yet
widely implemented.

Preferred Resolution: Suggestion 2.




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Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.45
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE 
MOST UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of 
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Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
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heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger things to come=
 
for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste materials into 
electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand that it is 
impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

(Mar 9 '04) Urgent News Update:
LETH Announces the Sale of Two (2) Biosphere Process Systems to 
Procura International Limited for $14 Million with an Option for the Sale =
of 
an Additional 98 Systems Over the Next 24 Months.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety of =

waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on the 
global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe process 
converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as Municipal=
 
Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical wastes, industr=
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wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and the huge market of=
 
used tires. LETH profits from the sale of electricity created from the was=
te 
conversion on a continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour=
 
of electricity which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.=


(Mar 3 '04) LETH Release Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News
LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net profit=
 
of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is scheduled =
to 
receive an additional $7 Million translating into an additional .24 cents =
per 
share which is the balance of this completed contract over the next 6 mont=
hs. 
The net profit per share from just this single contract would value the st=
ock 
above $6 by calculating the .36 cents per share total at an average indust=
ry 
PE of 18 - 22.

Examining LETH - By The Numbers

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 million =

shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 Million=
 
per Biosphere Process System!

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate the securing=
 of 
necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide monitoring of th=
e 
Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of 
obtaining Department of Environmental Quality permitting for the 
Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a monumental event fo=
r 
LETH which opens the floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana 
while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-
term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that pattern=
 is 
repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released with some ver=
y 
big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at any price level=
 
with the technology or exponential sales growth to match LETH, while 
simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major profits as global =

demand to solve two crisis areas, waste and electrical energy, reaches 
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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year base=
d 
on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), incredibly =
solid 
numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.45
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE 
MOST UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of 
subscribers for substantial profits immediately!
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume indicating 
heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger things to come=
 
for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste materials into 
electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand that it is 
impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

(Mar 9 '04) Urgent News Update:
LETH Announces the Sale of Two (2) Biosphere Process Systems to 
Procura International Limited for $14 Million with an Option for the Sale =
of 
an Additional 98 Systems Over the Next 24 Months.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety of =

waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on the 
global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe process 
converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as Municipal=
 
Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical wastes, industr=
ial 
wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and the huge market of=
 
used tires. LETH profits from the sale of electricity created from the was=
te 
conversion on a continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour=
 
of electricity which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.=


(Mar 3 '04) LETH Release Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News
LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net profit=
 
of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is scheduled =
to 
receive an additional $7 Million translating into an additional .24 cents =
per 
share which is the balance of this completed contract over the next 6 mont=
hs. 
The net profit per share from just this single contract would value the st=
ock 
above $6 by calculating the .36 cents per share total at an average indust=
ry 
PE of 18 - 22.

Examining LETH - By The Numbers

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 million =

shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 Million=
 
per Biosphere Process System!

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate the securing=
 of 
necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide monitoring of th=
e 
Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of 
obtaining Department of Environmental Quality permitting for the 
Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a monumental event fo=
r 
LETH which opens the floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana 
while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-
term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that pattern=
 is 
repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released with some ver=
y 
big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at any price level=
 
with the technology or exponential sales growth to match LETH, while 
simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major profits as global =

demand to solve two crisis areas, waste and electrical energy, reaches 
unprecedented levels.

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR 
cautions that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and tha=
t 
some or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR 
recommends you use the information found here as an initial starting point=
 
for conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the 
featured company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the 
company before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial 
Planning Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is =

not offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies.  
MMSR is not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to b=
uy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e we 
have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest in ou=
r 
statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are cautioned not to =

place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which are based on 
certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks and 
uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from those se=
t forth 
in the forward looking statements.

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Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
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Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

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Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 million =

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Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

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with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate the securing=
 of 
necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide monitoring of th=
e 
Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of 
obtaining Department of Environmental Quality permitting for the 
Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a monumental event fo=
r 
LETH which opens the floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana 
while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-
term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that pattern=
 is 
repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released with some ver=
y 
big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at any price level=
 
with the technology or exponential sales growth to match LETH, while 
simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major profits as global =

demand to solve two crisis areas, waste and electrical energy, reaches 
unprecedented levels.

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR 
cautions that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and tha=
t 
some or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR 
recommends you use the information found here as an initial starting point=
 
for conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the 
featured company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the 
company before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial 
Planning Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is =

not offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies.  
MMSR is not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to b=
uy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e we 
have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest in ou=
r 
statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are cautioned not to =

place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which are based on 
certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks and 
uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from those se=
t forth 
in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year base=
d 
on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), incredibly =
solid 
numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.45
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE 
MOST UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of 
subscribers for substantial profits immediately!
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume indicating 
heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger things to come=
 
for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste materials into 
electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand that it is 
impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

(Mar 9 '04) Urgent News Update:
LETH Announces the Sale of Two (2) Biosphere Process Systems to 
Procura International Limited for $14 Million with an Option for the Sale =
of 
an Additional 98 Systems Over the Next 24 Months.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety of =

waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on the 
global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe process 
converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as Municipal=
 
Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical wastes, industr=
ial 
wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and the huge market of=
 
used tires. LETH profits from the sale of electricity created from the was=
te 
conversion on a continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour=
 
of electricity which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.=


(Mar 3 '04) LETH Release Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News
LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net profit=
 
of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is scheduled =
to 
receive an additional $7 Million translating into an additional .24 cents =
per 
share which is the balance of this completed contract over the next 6 mont=
hs. 
The net profit per share from just this single contract would value the st=
ock 
above $6 by calculating the .36 cents per share total at an average indust=
ry 
PE of 18 - 22.

Examining LETH - By The Numbers

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 million =

shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 Million=
 
per Biosphere Process System!

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate the securing=
 of 
necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide monitoring of th=
e 
Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of 
obtaining Department of Environmental Quality permitting for the 
Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a monumental event fo=
r 
LETH which opens the floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana 
while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-
term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that pattern=
 is 
repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released with some ver=
y 
big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at any price level=
 
with the technology or exponential sales growth to match LETH, while 
simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major profits as global =

demand to solve two crisis areas, waste and electrical energy, reaches 
unprecedented levels.

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR 
cautions that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and tha=
t 
some or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR 
recommends you use the information found here as an initial starting point=
 
for conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the 
featured company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the 
company before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial 
Planning Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is =

not offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies.  
MMSR is not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to b=
uy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e we 
have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest in ou=
r 
statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are cautioned not to =

place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which are based on 
certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks and 
uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from those se=
t forth 
in the forward looking statements.

hb v yh zyoiv mwj

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Subject: LETH nets 3.5 million on current contract equaling 12 cents per share. udo
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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year base=
d 
on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), incredibly =
solid 
numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.45
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE 
MOST UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of 
subscribers for substantial profits immediately!
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume indicating 
heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger things to come=
 
for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste materials into 
electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand that it is 
impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

(Mar 9 '04) Urgent News Update:
LETH Announces the Sale of Two (2) Biosphere Process Systems to 
Procura International Limited for $14 Million with an Option for the Sale =
of 
an Additional 98 Systems Over the Next 24 Months.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety of =

waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on the 
global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe process 
converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as Municipal=
 
Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical wastes, industr=
ial 
wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and the huge market of=
 
used tires. LETH profits from the sale of electricity created from the was=
te 
conversion on a continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour=
 
of electricity which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.=


(Mar 3 '04) LETH Release Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News
LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net profit=
 
of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is scheduled =
to 
receive an additional $7 Million translating into an additional .24 cents =
per 
share which is the balance of this completed contract over the next 6 mont=
hs. 
The net profit per share from just this single contract would value the st=
ock 
above $6 by calculating the .36 cents per share total at an average indust=
ry 
PE of 18 - 22.

Examining LETH - By The Numbers

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 million =

shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 Million=
 
per Biosphere Process System!

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate the securing=
 of 
necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide monitoring of th=
e 
Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of 
obtaining Department of Environmental Quality permitting for the 
Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a monumental event fo=
r 
LETH which opens the floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana 
while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-
term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that pattern=
 is 
repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released with some ver=
y 
big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at any price level=
 
with the technology or exponential sales growth to match LETH, while 
simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major profits as global =

demand to solve two crisis areas, waste and electrical energy, reaches 
unprecedented levels.

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR 
cautions that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and tha=
t 
some or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR 
recommends you use the information found here as an initial starting point=
 
for conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the 
featured company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the 
company before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial 
Planning Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is =

not offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies.  
MMSR is not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to b=
uy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e we 
have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest in ou=
r 
statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are cautioned not to =

place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which are based on 
certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks and 
uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from those se=
t forth 
in the forward looking statements.

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Market Mover Stock Report's Last Pick (CWTD) exploded from $1.19 to
$9.20, a gain of over 670% in 5 days (Feb 12 - 17)!!!

Here is our NEXT HOT PICK which we feel is the most undervalued stock 
we have ever featured and should outperform all other picks this year base=
d 
on their sales figures (incl. a backlog of over $100 Million), incredibly =
solid 
numbers, and low outstanding share total.

Life Energy and Technology Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB: LETH)
Current Price: 2.45
Near-Term Target: 7.00
Projected High for '04: 15.00

We are sending this URGENT INVESTOR BULLETIN REVEALING THE 
MOST UNDERVALUED STOCK ON THE OTCBB to our millions of 
subscribers for substantial profits immediately!
Sales orders received by LETH exceed $150 Million over the past year 
while major news was just released that adds multi-millions to the bottom =

line. LETH has experienced a recent spike in price and volume indicating 
heavy accumulation of shares which is a sign of even bigger things to come=
 
for this emerging world leader in the conversion of waste materials into 
electrical energy, an industry with such high global demand that it is 
impossible to assign a value to the size of the market.

(Mar 9 '04) Urgent News Update:
LETH Announces the Sale of Two (2) Biosphere Process Systems to 
Procura International Limited for $14 Million with an Option for the Sale =
of 
an Additional 98 Systems Over the Next 24 Months.

Solving a Dual Crisis - Waste and Energy:

LETH is utilizing the unique proprietary technology of their Biosphere 
Process System to generate revenue from the disposal of a wide variety of =

waste products at 5 to 7 tons per hour which makes a major impact on the 
global waste problem. This profitable and environmentally safe process 
converts into clean, "green" electricity such waste materials as Municipal=
 
Solid Waste, agricultural wastes, forestry wastes, medical wastes, industr=
ial 
wastes, sewage sludge, shale oil, sour natural gas, and the huge market of=
 
used tires. LETH profits from the sale of electricity created from the was=
te 
conversion on a continuous basis by generating 5 to 10 mega-watts per hour=
 
of electricity which is then sold to replenish the local or national grid.=


(Mar 3 '04) LETH Release Major Product Delivery and Net Profit News
LETH delivered 12 Biosphere Process Systems which resulted in a net profit=
 
of $3.5 Million, the equivalent of .12 cents per share. LETH is scheduled =
to 
receive an additional $7 Million translating into an additional .24 cents =
per 
share which is the balance of this completed contract over the next 6 mont=
hs. 
The net profit per share from just this single contract would value the st=
ock 
above $6 by calculating the .36 cents per share total at an average indust=
ry 
PE of 18 - 22.

Examining LETH - By The Numbers

Total Assets: 36.8 Million =3D 1.26 per share of assets
Cash: 23.4 Million =3D .80 cents per share of cash
Shares Outstanding: 29 million (down from 31.8 million) after 2.8 million =

shares retired in Feb. '04
Additional Shares to be Retired: 1.3 million per Company press release
Estimated Shares in Float: 7 million
Completed Biosphere Process Systems Now in Operation: 26

Record Backlog of Sales for LETH:

During the past year, over 20 additional Biosphere Process Systems have 
been ordered, which upon completion represents a backlog exceeding over 
$100 Million in upcoming sales. Many of these contractual agreements 
include options for the purchase of additional Biosphere Systems in the 
future once the initial order has been completed. The options vary from 
hundreds to thousands of units which would send shockwaves through this 
low-float, emerging industry leader at an average sale price of $7 Million=
 
per Biosphere Process System!

LETH's Blue Chip Partner - Fortifying the System:

LETH is an alliance partner with Tetra Tech, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTEK, $20) a 
leader and one of the largest providers in environmental, mechanical, and =

electrical management consulting services primarily for the US Government =

with annual sales of $800 Million. Tetra Tech will coordinate the securing=
 of 
necessary permits, installation, and continuous worldwide monitoring of th=
e 
Biosphere Process System for LETH. Tetra Tech is now in the process of 
obtaining Department of Environmental Quality permitting for the 
Biosphere Process in the state of Louisiana. This is a monumental event fo=
r 
LETH which opens the floodgates for major project revenues in Louisiana 
while having a parallel effect on LETH stock in the form of a huge near-
term announcement.

Stock Set to Explode on Earnings Boom:

LETH has the impressive financials and sales already in the pipeline to 
achieve record-setting stock price levels in support of the Company's 
breakout year. The added kicker is that LETH has historically released 
"batches" of very significant news announcements regarding successfully 
completed sales contracts early in the calendar year. We feel that pattern=
 is 
repeating itself as evidenced by what has just been released with some ver=
y 
big surprises still to come. There aren't any companies at any price level=
 
with the technology or exponential sales growth to match LETH, while 
simultaneously containing all the ingredients for major profits as global =

demand to solve two crisis areas, waste and electrical energy, reaches 
unprecedented levels.

Required Market Mover Stock Report (MMSR) Information: MMSR 
cautions that small and micro-cap stocks are high-risk investments and tha=
t 
some or all investment dollars can be lost. We suggest you consult a 
professional investment advisor before purchasing any stock. All opinions =

expressed on the featured company are the opinions of MMSR. MMSR 
recommends you use the information found here as an initial starting point=
 
for conducting your own research and your own due diligence on the 
featured company in order to determine your own personal opinion of the 
company before investing. MMSR is not an Investment Advisor, Financial 
Planning Service or a Stock Brokerage Firm and in accordance with such is =

not offering investment advice or promoting any investment strategies.  
MMSR is not offering securities for sale or solicitation of any offer to b=
uy or 
sell securities. MMSR has received twelve thousand dollars from an 
unaffiliated third party for the preparation of this company profile. Sinc=
e we 
have received compensation there is an inherent conflict of interest in ou=
r 
statements and opinions. Readers of this publication are cautioned not to =

place undue reliance on forward looking statements, which are based on 
certain assumptions and expectations involving various risks and 
uncertainties, that could cause results to differ materially from those se=
t forth 
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s 
figures combined with current acquisition candidates, acquired and in 
process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the next 24 months. We =

are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the stock is under 
accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this recently filed data.

Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad, 
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General 
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants lookin=
g 
to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and supply chain=
 
management, freight brokerage services, packaging assessment, and private =

fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their growt=
h 
and suite of services matches up identically to many companies acquired by=
 
UPS and FedEx over the past few years. We are expecting many significant 
upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues and the 
completion of extremely profitable acquisitions.

OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that matt=
ers 
most being the rapidly increasing attention from analysts, brokers, and 
aggressive investors with an eye for value and growth. OPLO has all the 
ingredients for major profits which is why we are seeing gains of 400=
% or 
more for early investors. This stock recommendation carries our highest 
rating for short-term trading profits. 

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based on expectations, estimates, and projections at the time the statemen=
ts 
are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties which could caus=
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Investor Financial Times Report

Specializing in Undervalued Small Cap Stocks for Immediate Breakout

We have the #1 track record for our most recent recommendations in 2004:

DLGI at .27	 	Currently .88	High 1.69 UP 526%
SWYC at .18	Currently 1.38	High 1.98 UP 1000%
FPDI at .21		Currently 1.08	High 1.25 UP 495%
VDWB at .18 	Currently 1.40	High 2.04 UP 1033%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play (and potential takeover target) 
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

OrderPro Logistics, Inc. (OTCBB: OPLO)

Price--- .16
Sales '03--- over 2.3 million +2,700% growth over previous year
Est. Sales '04--- over 10 million 
Average PE--- Industry 22-25
7 day target--- .58
30 day target--- .92
Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

OPLO is a high-level provider of innovative management solutions for the 
transport and shipping industry for a blue-chip clientele, making them the=
 
hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares are ready to 
explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for OPLO over the last 12 months =

with no signs of slowing. The numbers continue to stack-up as present sale=
s 
figures combined with current acquisition candidates, acquired and in 
process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the next 24 months. We =

are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the stock is under 
accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this recently filed data.

Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad, 
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General 
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants lookin=
g 
to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and supply chain=
 
management, freight brokerage services, packaging assessment, and private =

fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their growt=
h 
and suite of services matches up identically to many companies acquired by=
 
UPS and FedEx over the past few years. We are expecting many significant 
upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues and the 
completion of extremely profitable acquisitions.

OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that matt=
ers 
most being the rapidly increasing attention from analysts, brokers, and 
aggressive investors with an eye for value and growth. OPLO has all the 
ingredients for major profits which is why we are seeing gains of 400=
% or 
more for early investors. This stock recommendation carries our highest 
rating for short-term trading profits. 

Investor Financial Times Report is an independent newsletter with the goal=
 
of giving investors the necessary knowledge to make rational and profitabl=
e 
investment decisions. This publication does not provide an analysis of the=
 
company's financial position and is not an offer to buy or sell securities=
 
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that any investment should be made after consulting with your investment 
advisor and after reviewing the financial statements of the company. 
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believed to be reliable, but its accuracy cannot be assured. Past 
performance does not insure similar future results. Investor Financial 
Times Report received four thousand dollars from an unaffiliated third par=
ty 
with respect to the preparation of this special online report as an effort=
 
to build investor awareness for OrderPro Logistics. The information report=
ed 
herein contains future-looking statements and information within the meani=
ng 
of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the 
Securities Exchange Act of 1934, including statements regarding expected 
continual growth of the featured company. Future-looking statements are 
based on expectations, estimates, and projections at the time the statemen=
ts 
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Investor Financial Times Report

Specializing in Undervalued Small Cap Stocks for Immediate Breakout

We have the #1 track record for our most recent recommendations in 
2004:

DLGI at .27	Currently .88	High 1.69 UP 526%
SWYC at .18	Currently 1.38	High 1.98 UP 1000%
FPDI at .21	Currently 1.08	High 1.25 UP 495%
VDWB at .18 	Currently 1.40	High 2.04 UP 1033%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play (and potential takeover target)
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

OrderPro Logistics, Inc. (OTCBB: OPLO)

Price--- .18

Sales '03--- over 2.3 million +2,700% growth over previous year
Est. Sales '04--- over 10 million
Average PE--- Industry 22-25
7 day target--- .58
30 day target--- .92
Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

OPLO is a high-level provider of innovative management solutions for 
the transport and shipping industry for a blue-chip clientele, making 
them the hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares are 
ready to explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for OPLO over the last 12 
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present sales figures combined with current acquisition candidates, 
acquired and in process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the 
next 24 months. We are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the 
stock is under accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this 
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Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad,
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants 
looking to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and 
supply chain management, freight brokerage services, packaging 
assessment, and private fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their 
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significant upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues 
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OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that 
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Investor Financial Times Report

Specializing in Undervalued Small Cap Stocks for Immediate Breakout

We have the #1 track record for our most recent recommendations in 
2004:

DLGI at .27	Currently .88	High 1.69 UP 526%
SWYC at .18	Currently 1.38	High 1.98 UP 1000%
FPDI at .21	Currently 1.08	High 1.25 UP 495%
VDWB at .18 	Currently 1.40	High 2.04 UP 1033%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play (and potential takeover target)
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

OrderPro Logistics, Inc. (OTCBB: OPLO)

Price--- .18

Sales '03--- over 2.3 million +2,700% growth over previous year
Est. Sales '04--- over 10 million
Average PE--- Industry 22-25
7 day target--- .58
30 day target--- .92
Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

OPLO is a high-level provider of innovative management solutions for 
the transport and shipping industry for a blue-chip clientele, making 
them the hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares are 
ready to explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for OPLO over the last 12 
months with no signs of slowing. The numbers continue to stack-up as 
present sales figures combined with current acquisition candidates, 
acquired and in process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the 
next 24 months. We are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the 
stock is under accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this 
recently filed data.

Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad,
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants 
looking to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and 
supply chain management, freight brokerage services, packaging 
assessment, and private fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their 
growth and suite of services matches up identically to many companies 
acquired by UPS and FedEx over the past few years. We are expecting many 
significant upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues 
and the completion of extremely profitable acquisitions.

OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that 
matters most being the rapidly increasing attention from analysts, 
brokers, and aggressive investors with an eye for value and growth. OPLO 
has all the ingredients for major profits which is why we are seeing 
gains of 400% or more for early investors. This stock recommendation 
carries our highest rating for short-term trading profits.

Investor Financial Times Report is an independent newsletter with the 
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profitable investment decisions. This publication does not provide an 
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buy or sell securities Investing in securities is speculative and 
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received four thousand dollars from an unaffiliated third party with 
respect to the preparation of this special online report as an effort 
to build investor awareness for OrderPro Logistics. The information 
reported herein contains future-looking statements and information 
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statements regarding expected continual growth of the featured 
company. Future-looking statements are based on expectations, 
estimates, and projections at the time the statements are made 
that involve a number of risks and uncertainties which could 
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Dear Friend,

As you read this, I don't want you to feel sorry for me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. 
My name is BATES ALAN a merchant in Dubai, in the U.A.E.I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer.
It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts. 
I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone(not even myself)but my 
business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous, I was always hostile to people and only 
focused on my business as that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know 
that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world. 
I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way 
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and assets to my immediate and extended family members as well as a few close friends. 
I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul so, I have decided to give alms to charity 
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Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as 
they seem not to be contended with what I have left 
for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the huge cash deposit of eighteen million dollars 
$18,000,000,00 that I have with a finance/Security Company abroad. I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations.
I have set aside 10% for you and for your time.

God be with you. 

BATES ALAN




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As you read this, I don't want you to feel sorry for me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. 
My name is BATES ALAN a merchant in Dubai, in the U.A.E.I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer.
It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now I have only about a few months to live, according to medical experts. 
I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone(not even myself)but my 
business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous, I was always hostile to people and only 
focused on my business as that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know 
that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world. 
I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way 
from how I have lived it. Now that God has called me, I have willed and given most of my property 
and assets to my immediate and extended family members as well as a few close friends. 
I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul so, I have decided to give alms to charity 
organizations, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed 
money to some charity organizations in the U.A.E, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has 
deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore. I once asked members of my family to close one 
of my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity organization in Bulgaria and 
Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as 
they seem not to be contended with what I have left 
for them. The last of my money which no one knows of is the huge cash deposit of eighteen million dollars 
$18,000,000,00 that I have with a finance/Security Company abroad. I will want you to help me collect this deposit and dispatched it to charity organizations.
I have set aside 10% for you and for your time.

God be with you. 

BATES ALAN



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Excuse me for being new to this list, and therefore short of details!

I'm interested to see that final submissions seem to have been made by 
seamoby, and I can see no evidence of plans for further work in this WG - is 
this in fact the case?

r.e. CTP draft; whilst this clearly seems to provide a simple (always 
good!), and security considered solution to signalling for CT, I cannot see 
where frameworks etc for Context Data Blocks or for plans (or examples?) for 
FPT type definitions. Are these outlined elsewhere, or is this 'future 
work'? Also, for DoCoMo's implementation, have they released any details of 
context type, description etc, or is it all 'in house'?!

r.e. CARD; this seems clearly aimed at discovery in single interface 
homogeneous IP networks - any thoughts on possible overlap with discovery in 
heterogeneous, multi-interface networks, or do you feel the problems, and 
hence solutions, are seperate/out of scope?

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We have the #1 track record for our most recent recommendations in 
2004:

DLGI at .27	Currently .88	High 1.69 UP 526%
SWYC at .18	Currently 1.38	High 1.98 UP 1000%
FPDI at .21	Currently 1.08	High 1.25 UP 495%
VDWB at .18 	Currently 1.40	High 2.04 UP 1033%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play (and potential takeover target)
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

OrderPro Logistics, Inc. (OTCBB: OPLO)

Price--- .18

Sales '03--- over 2.3 million +2,700% growth over previous year
Est. Sales '04--- over 10 million
Average PE--- Industry 22-25
7 day target--- .58
30 day target--- .92
Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

OPLO is a high-level provider of innovative management solutions for 
the transport and shipping industry for a blue-chip clientele, making 
them the hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares are 
ready to explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for OPLO over the last 12 
months with no signs of slowing. The numbers continue to stack-up as 
present sales figures combined with current acquisition candidates, 
acquired and in process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the 
next 24 months. We are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the 
stock is under accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this 
recently filed data.

Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad,
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants 
looking to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and 
supply chain management, freight brokerage services, packaging 
assessment, and private fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their 
growth and suite of services matches up identically to many companies 
acquired by UPS and FedEx over the past few years. We are expecting many 
significant upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues 
and the completion of extremely profitable acquisitions.

OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that 
matters most being the rapidly increasing attention from analysts, 
brokers, and aggressive investors with an eye for value and growth. OPLO 
has all the ingredients for major profits which is why we are seeing 
gains of 400% or more for early investors. This stock recommendation 
carries our highest rating for short-term trading profits.

Investor Financial Times Report is an independent newsletter with the 
goal of giving investors the necessary knowledge to make rational and 
profitable investment decisions. This publication does not provide an 
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buy or sell securities Investing in securities is speculative and 
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We have the #1 track record for our most recent recommendations in 
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DLGI at .27	Currently .88	High 1.69 UP 526%
SWYC at .18	Currently 1.38	High 1.98 UP 1000%
FPDI at .21	Currently 1.08	High 1.25 UP 495%
VDWB at .18 	Currently 1.40	High 2.04 UP 1033%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play (and potential takeover target)
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

OrderPro Logistics, Inc. (OTCBB: OPLO)

Price--- .18

Sales '03--- over 2.3 million +2,700% growth over previous year
Est. Sales '04--- over 10 million
Average PE--- Industry 22-25
7 day target--- .58
30 day target--- .92
Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

OPLO is a high-level provider of innovative management solutions for 
the transport and shipping industry for a blue-chip clientele, making 
them the hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares are 
ready to explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for OPLO over the last 12 
months with no signs of slowing. The numbers continue to stack-up as 
present sales figures combined with current acquisition candidates, 
acquired and in process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the 
next 24 months. We are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the 
stock is under accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this 
recently filed data.

Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad,
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants 
looking to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and 
supply chain management, freight brokerage services, packaging 
assessment, and private fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their 
growth and suite of services matches up identically to many companies 
acquired by UPS and FedEx over the past few years. We are expecting many 
significant upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues 
and the completion of extremely profitable acquisitions.

OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that 
matters most being the rapidly increasing attention from analysts, 
brokers, and aggressive investors with an eye for value and growth. OPLO 
has all the ingredients for major profits which is why we are seeing 
gains of 400% or more for early investors. This stock recommendation 
carries our highest rating for short-term trading profits.

Investor Financial Times Report is an independent newsletter with the 
goal of giving investors the necessary knowledge to make rational and 
profitable investment decisions. This publication does not provide an 
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buy or sell securities Investing in securities is speculative and 
carries risk. It is recommended that any investment should be made 
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Investor Financial Times Report

Specializing in Undervalued Small Cap Stocks for Immediate Breakout

We have the #1 track record for our most recent recommendations in 
2004:

DLGI at .27	Currently .88	High 1.69 UP 526%
SWYC at .18	Currently 1.38	High 1.98 UP 1000%
FPDI at .21	Currently 1.08	High 1.25 UP 495%
VDWB at .18 	Currently 1.40	High 2.04 UP 1033%

Immediate Investor Recommendation
Our Hottest Sales and Earnings Play (and potential takeover target)
Projected to Triple in 7 Days:

OrderPro Logistics, Inc. (OTCBB: OPLO)

Price--- .18

Sales '03--- over 2.3 million +2,700% growth over previous year
Est. Sales '04--- over 10 million
Average PE--- Industry 22-25
7 day target--- .58
30 day target--- .92
Rating--- Extremely Undervalued

OPLO is a high-level provider of innovative management solutions for 
the transport and shipping industry for a blue-chip clientele, making 
them the hottest undervalued stock at this price level where shares are 
ready to explode on huge investor attention.

Sales have rocketed beyond all estimates for OPLO over the last 12 
months with no signs of slowing. The numbers continue to stack-up as 
present sales figures combined with current acquisition candidates, 
acquired and in process, total revenues of almost $40 million over the 
next 24 months. We are not the first to uncover this phenomenon as the 
stock is under accumulation, but we are acting aggressively on this 
recently filed data.

Major clients include Sears, Office Max, Union Pacific Railroad,
NordicTrack, Pacer Global (the logistics company for Ford and General
Motors), along with many other large and mid-level corporate giants 
looking to benefit from the Company's expertise in transportation and 
supply chain management, freight brokerage services, packaging 
assessment, and private fleet management.

OPLO can be considered a potential candidate to be acquired as their 
growth and suite of services matches up identically to many companies 
acquired by UPS and FedEx over the past few years. We are expecting many 
significant upcoming press releases regarding record-breaking revenues 
and the completion of extremely profitable acquisitions.

OPLO is gaining in all the right categories with perhaps the one that 
matters most being the rapidly increasing attention from analysts, 
brokers, and aggressive investors with an eye for value and growth. OPLO 
has all the ingredients for major profits which is why we are seeing 
gains of 400% or more for early investors. This stock recommendation 
carries our highest rating for short-term trading profits.

Investor Financial Times Report is an independent newsletter with the 
goal of giving investors the necessary knowledge to make rational and 
profitable investment decisions. This publication does not provide an 
analysis of the company's financial position and is not an offer to 
buy or sell securities Investing in securities is speculative and 
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statements regarding expected continual growth of the featured 
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estimates, and projections at the time the statements are made 
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> Excuse me for being new to this list, and therefore short of details!
>
> I'm interested to see that final submissions seem to have been made by
> seamoby, and I can see no evidence of plans for further work in this WG -
is
> this in fact the case?
>

The WG will be shutting down after the CARD and CTP drafts are published.

> r.e. CTP draft; whilst this clearly seems to provide a simple (always
> good!), and security considered solution to signalling for CT, I cannot
see
> where frameworks etc for Context Data Blocks or for plans (or examples?)
for
> FPT type definitions. Are these outlined elsewhere, or is this 'future
> work'? Also, for DoCoMo's implementation, have they released any details
of
> context type, description etc, or is it all 'in house'?!
>

There is a simple example of a context defined in Appendix B of the CTP
draft, for multicast listener state. The header compression context Docomo
is planning on implementing is described in
draft-koodli-seamoby-hc-relocate-03.txt. I believe Nokia IPRG has also done
some work in this area. Rajeev, who is co-author on the HC transfer draft,
was scheduled to speak about it at the MOBOPTS meeting in Seoul but we ran
out of time.

Over the lifetime of Seamoby, there have been many proposals to standardize
particular context types (PPP, AAA, IPsec, QoS, etc.) but Seamoby was never
chartered to specify particular context types, just the transfer protocol.
At the WG meeting at IETF 57 in Vienna, we discussed possibly specifying the
header compression context, which would have required a charter amendment,
but there was sufficient dispute between ROHC experts whether header
compression context transfer was necessary that we decided not to pursue it
in the Seamoby group. However,  we have encouraged Rajeev to work together
with the ROHC group to answer the technical questions that arose and pursue
a specification.

The CTP draft specifies a procedure whereby a context profile can be
approved. A Designated Expert is assigned by the AD in the topic area to
evaluate the design, and a context profile type number is requested from
IANA.

> r.e. CARD; this seems clearly aimed at discovery in single interface
> homogeneous IP networks - any thoughts on possible overlap with discovery
in
> heterogeneous, multi-interface networks, or do you feel the problems, and
> hence solutions, are seperate/out of scope?
>

Actually, it is designed for multi-interface hosts. CARD allows the AR to
advertise information about other wireless protocols available in the
surrounding geographic area. See Section 5.1.3.1 for a description of the L2
ID suboption format. The L2 ID suboption is designed to carry information
about possible heterogenous network availablilty.

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Hello Jim,

"Since access networks of these
types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the frequency
of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be high
enough to render the protocol unusable in general. " does not sound like a
good reason for an experimental protocol. We have not had any
experiences with actual deployments to support this seemingly logical
statement. And, one could argue that we could state in the applicability
statement that "the usefulness of the protocol on routinely congested
networks could be limited". BTW, I am not arguing for UDP. I would
like to have the CTP messages as blocks that could be carried in ICMP
so that they could be used in conjunction with fast handovers.

As you note below, both TCP and SCTP have shortcomings not suitable
for CT which is useful mostly when synchronized tightly with fast
handovers. The distinction between failed CT due to a dropped packet and
a CT that is not on time is thin. Besides, features (QoS, HC) always need to
have recovery mechanisms anyway, which would re-build the state.
So, I would suggest using ICMP without re-transmissions. We know
the links where it works. We would like to try it on bottlenecked links and
provide some data, which we could use when the spec is up for PS.

Regards,

-Rajeev


>
> Issue 2
> --------
>
> Issue: The draft as written specifies using UDP without retransmit for the
> transport protocol. This is not acceptable from a congestion control and
> usability standpoint, the points made in Appendix  A about timing
> notwidthstanding. Both Allison and James brought up these issues at various
> times during the requirements discussion and during previous reviews of the
> draft.
>
> The issue with UDP is that CTP is expected to be used frequently between
> access routers in a wide area network, like between two hotspot clusters
> connected by T1 or other low capacity lines. Since access networks of these
> types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the frequency
> of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be high
> enough to render the protocol unusable in general. While the Working Group
> could develop a specialized UDP retransmit algorithm, there is no need since
> both TCP and SCTP could provide adequate performance for CTP. Below are two
> suggestions for resolution of the issue, and a preferred resolution.
>
> Suggestion 1: Use TCP.
>
> The advantage of this suggestion is that TCP is already widely implemented
> and is well understood, so it could serve for immediate implementation and
> experiment. The disadvantage is that TCP provides no way to control the
> retransmit timer in general, so the timeliness of the transfer could not be
> assured without additional measures.
>
> Suggestion 2: Use SCTP.
>
> The advantage of using SCTP is that it provides a partial reliability mode
> which allows the retransmit timer to be set. This would allow the timeliness
> of the transfer to be controlled. The disadvantage is that SCTP is not yet
> widely implemented.
>
> Preferred Resolution: Suggestion 2.
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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .39

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .39

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

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Is this a scoop? After so much work, Seamoby 'll die ?
And who 'll take on the drafts ?

I hope that chairs 'll answer at the questions we'll make.....
I think a lot of questions


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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .39

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

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basis. All information is derived from publicly available 
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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
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Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .39

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

Market Watch Special Alert is delivered online on a quarterly 
basis. All information is derived from publicly available 
sources. Performance forecasts made on behalf of Market Watch 
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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .39

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

Market Watch Special Alert is delivered online on a quarterly 
basis. All information is derived from publicly available 
sources. Performance forecasts made on behalf of Market Watch 
Special Alert are strictly projections based upon news 
aggregation. Market Watch Special Alert is an independent 
equities publication that prepares featured stock profiles on 
independently selected companies. While our intent is to 
identify companies that may provide substantial investment 
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Watch Special Alert does not represent a solicitation to buy or 
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that any purchase or sale decisions be discussed with a 
financial advisor or broker. Past performance does not insure 
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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .39

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

Market Watch Special Alert is delivered online on a quarterly 
basis. All information is derived from publicly available 
sources. Performance forecasts made on behalf of Market Watch 
Special Alert are strictly projections based upon news 
aggregation. Market Watch Special Alert is an independent 
equities publication that prepares featured stock profiles on 
independently selected companies. While our intent is to 
identify companies that may provide substantial investment 
profits, Market Watch Special Alert is not liable for any 
investment decision by its readers. Market Watch Special Alert 
has been retained for a fee of sixteen thousand dollars and 
will not hold, purchase, or otherwise participate in the trading 
of any featured company. Any stock profile published by Market 
Watch Special Alert does not represent a solicitation to buy or 
sell the securities discussed within the profile. It is advised 
that any purchase or sale decisions be discussed with a 
financial advisor or broker. Past performance does not insure 
future success of any featured company. Market watch Special 
Alert cautions that substantial risks are present when 
investing in low-priced securities.   

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Subject: RE: [Seamoby] CTP and CARD Drafts 
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Hi Ivano,
> > The WG will be shutting down after the CARD and CTP drafts are=20
> > published.
>=20
> Is this a scoop? After so much work, Seamoby 'll die ?
> And who 'll take on the drafts ?
>=20
> I hope that chairs 'll answer at the questions we'll make.....
> I think a lot of questions

It was announced at the Vienna IETF meeting about this plan.  My
guess is that CARD & CTP will get published as expermental drafts,
and at some point, if CARD & CTP are useful, they will need to
be revised and updated to become proposed standards.

John

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Closing a WG after the work is complete is considered a sign of success in
IETF. Working groups are not supposed to last forever. In fact, the record
for shortest working group is held by a WG that met for approximately 15
minutes, then disbanded to a hearty round of applause from all present.

                jak

----- Original Message ----- 
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> >
> > The WG will be shutting down after the CARD and CTP drafts are
> > published.
>
> Is this a scoop? After so much work, Seamoby 'll die ?
> And who 'll take on the drafts ?
>
> I hope that chairs 'll answer at the questions we'll make.....
> I think a lot of questions
>
>
> Ivano from PBG4
>
> AIM : idlgdl
>
> ========================================================
>
> "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send."
> Jon PostelIl giorno 19/mar/04, alle 17:31, James Kempf ha scritto:
>
>


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Hi,

> The review by someone from the ROHC WG turned up no issues.

Who is this reviewer? What were the comments?
If I understand correctly from an earlier mail from James Kempf (March
11th), this person is not Carsten Bormann, and I know that it is not his
ROHC co-chair either for having asked.

I think the draft should be submitted for review to the ROHC wg via
their mailing list. After all, it has been written many times on the
Seamoby mailing list that "ROHC is a potential customer of CTP", so I
don't see any reason not to send the document for a somewhat broader
review to that wg.

Best regards,

/Ghyslain =20

James Kempf wrote:
>=20
> AD Review of the CTP draft (draft-ietf-seamoby-ctp-08.txt) is now compl=
ete.
> The review by someone from the ROHC WG turned up no issues. However, in
> discussions with Allison, there were a couple issues that arose. They a=
re
> listed below. Prior to submitting a revised draft to the IESG for revie=
w,
> Allison and I would like to obtain resolution on these issues. Please s=
end
> comments to the list by next Fri. (March 19).
>=20
>             jak
>=20
> -------------------------------
>=20
> Issue 1
> --------
>=20
> Issue: The MLD example in Appendix B as written is not very persuasive.=
 The
> 3G protocols don't use ND, and 802.11 is fast enough that it wouldn't m=
ake
> much difference.
>=20
> Suggested resolution: Replace the first paragraph of Appendix B with th=
e
> following:
>=20
>    In the past, credible proposals have been made in the Seamoby Workin=
g
> Group
>    and elsewhere for using context transfer to speed handover of
> authentication, authorization,
>    and accounting information, distributed firewall state, PPP context,=
 and
> header
>    compression context. Because the Working Group was not chartered to
>    develop context profile definitions for specific applications, none =
of
> the proposals
>    submitted to Seamoby were accepted as Working Group items. At this t=
ime,
> work
>    continues to develop a context profile definition for RFC 3095 heade=
r
> compression
>    context [RFC3095] and to characterize the performance gains obtainab=
le by
> using
>    header compression, but the work is not yet complete. In addition, t=
here
> are several
>    commercial wireless products that reportedly use non-standard,
> non-interoperable
>    context transfer protocols.
>=20
>    As a consequence, it is difficult at this time to point to with a so=
lid
> example of
>    how context transfer could result in a commercially viable, widely
> deployable,
>    interoperable benefit  for wireless networks. This is one reason why=
 CTP
> is being
>    proposed as an Experimental protocol, rather than Standards Track.
> However, it
>    nevertheless seems valuable to have a simple example that shows how
> handover
>    could benefit from using CTP. As an example of how context transfer =
can
> improve the
>    performance of IP layer handover, we consider transferring IPv6 MLD =
state
> [RFC2710].
>    MLD state is a particularly good example because every IPv6 node mus=
t
>   perform two MLD messaging sequences on the wireless link to establish
>    itself as an MLD listener prior to performing router discovery
>    [RFC2461] or duplicate address detection [RFC2462] or before
>    sending/receiving any application-specific traffic (including Mobile
>    IP handover signaling, if any). The node must subscribe to the Soli-
>    cited Node Multicast Address as soon as it comes up on the link. Any
>    application-specific multicast addresses must be re-established as
>    well. Context transfer can significantly speed up re-establishing
>    multicast state by allowing the nAR to initialize MLD for a node tha=
t
>    just completed handover; without any MLD signaling on the new wire-
>    less link. The same approach could be used for transferring multicas=
t
>    context in IPv4.
>=20
> and add the following paragraph after the second paragraph Appendix B i=
n the
> current draft:
>=20
>    This example might seem a bit contrived because MLD isn't used in ty=
pical
>    cellular protocols and wireless local area network protocols typical=
ly
> have
>    enough bandwidth that sending a single MLD message might not be view=
ed
>    as such a performance burden. An example of a wireless protocol wher=
e MLD
>    context transfer might be useful is IEEE 802.15.1 (Bluetooth). IEEE
> 802.15.1 has
>    two IP "profiles": one with and one without PPP. The profile without=
 PPP
> would
>    use MLD. 802.15.1 has a maximum bandwidth of about 800kbps, shared
> between
>    all nodes on the link, so a host on a moderately loaded 802.15.1 acc=
ess
> point could
>    experience the kind of bandwith described in the previous paragraph.=
 In
> addition
>    802.15.1 handover times typically run upwards of a second or more be=
cause
> the
>    host must resynchronize its frequency hopping pattern with the acces=
s
> point, so
>    anything the IP layer could do to to alleviate further delay would b=
e
> beneficial.
>=20
> and removing the following two sentences from the second paragraph in
> Appendix B:
>=20
>   The former is approximate for a narrowband 3G cel-
>    lular links and the latter for a heavily utilized 802.11b WLAN link,
>    both running Voice over IP (VoIP).
>=20
>   Considering most ATM-based 3G voice cellular pro-
>    tocols try to keep total voice handover delay less than 40- 80 msec.=
,
>    MLD signaling could have a large impact on the performance of inter-
>    subnet VoIP handover.
>=20
> Issue 2
> --------
>=20
> Issue: The draft as written specifies using UDP without retransmit for =
the
> transport protocol. This is not acceptable from a congestion control an=
d
> usability standpoint, the points made in Appendix  A about timing
> notwidthstanding. Both Allison and James brought up these issues at var=
ious
> times during the requirements discussion and during previous reviews of=
 the
> draft.
>=20
> The issue with UDP is that CTP is expected to be used frequently betwee=
n
> access routers in a wide area network, like between two hotspot cluster=
s
> connected by T1 or other low capacity lines. Since access networks of t=
hese
> types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the freque=
ncy
> of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be high
> enough to render the protocol unusable in general. While the Working Gr=
oup
> could develop a specialized UDP retransmit algorithm, there is no need =
since
> both TCP and SCTP could provide adequate performance for CTP. Below are=
 two
> suggestions for resolution of the issue, and a preferred resolution.
>=20
> Suggestion 1: Use TCP.
>=20
> The advantage of this suggestion is that TCP is already widely implemen=
ted
> and is well understood, so it could serve for immediate implementation =
and
> experiment. The disadvantage is that TCP provides no way to control the
> retransmit timer in general, so the timeliness of the transfer could no=
t be
> assured without additional measures.
>=20
> Suggestion 2: Use SCTP.
>=20
> The advantage of using SCTP is that it provides a partial reliability m=
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> which allows the retransmit timer to be set. This would allow the timel=
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yet
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Ghyslain,

The draft is at
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-seamoby-ctp-08.txt. Since =
we
currently have a disagreement about what transport protocol to use, we wi=
ll
not be able to send the draft to the IESG until that is resolved, which
might take a while. If you or anyone else in ROHC have comments on the
draft, please send them to the Seamoby list by April 5. Otherwise, as wit=
h
any IETF draft, you can send your comments during IETF Last Call if you
don't manage to read the draft in the next two weeks. When you read the
draft, please keep in mind that the protocol is intended to be published =
as
Experimental, not Standards Track, because there are many open questions,
and also please remember that ROHC is not the only application for CT.

BTW, there is a draft draft-koodli-seamoby-hc-relocate-03.txt which is no=
w
expired that describes a ROHC context profile. There are efforts under wa=
y
to implement and test this draft, in the context of the MOBOPTS IRTF
research group. Since the Seamoby charter does not cover doing specific
context profiles (and the IESG wants Seamoby to close down as soon as
possible), Seamoby can't really continue working on it, but there is some
interest in seeing it discussed in ROHC, where the experts on header
compression are. Hopefully, the experiments that are currently under way =
can
help resolve some of the controversy about CT for header compression by
basing discussion about whether CT for header compression actually helps
reduce handover latency on experimental data rather than on microphone ti=
me
and mailing list opinion.

            jak


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Ghyslain Pelletier" <Ghyslain.Pelletier@ericsson.com>
To: "James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>; "Carsten Bormann"
<cabo@tzi.org>; "Lars-Erik Jonsson (EPL)" <Lars-Erik.Jonsson@ericsson.com=
>;
<rohc@ietf.org>
Cc: <seamoby@ietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Seamoby] AD Review Issues with draft-ietf-seamoby-ctp-08.tx=
t


> Hi,
>
> > The review by someone from the ROHC WG turned up no issues.
>
> Who is this reviewer? What were the comments?
> If I understand correctly from an earlier mail from James Kempf (March
> 11th), this person is not Carsten Bormann, and I know that it is not hi=
s
> ROHC co-chair either for having asked.
>
> I think the draft should be submitted for review to the ROHC wg via
> their mailing list. After all, it has been written many times on the
> Seamoby mailing list that "ROHC is a potential customer of CTP", so I
> don't see any reason not to send the document for a somewhat broader
> review to that wg.
>
> Best regards,
>
> /Ghyslain
>
> James Kempf wrote:
> >
> > AD Review of the CTP draft (draft-ietf-seamoby-ctp-08.txt) is now
complete.
> > The review by someone from the ROHC WG turned up no issues. However, =
in
> > discussions with Allison, there were a couple issues that arose. They
are
> > listed below. Prior to submitting a revised draft to the IESG for
review,
> > Allison and I would like to obtain resolution on these issues. Please
send
> > comments to the list by next Fri. (March 19).
> >
> >             jak
> >
> > -------------------------------
> >
> > Issue 1
> > --------
> >
> > Issue: The MLD example in Appendix B as written is not very persuasiv=
e.
The
> > 3G protocols don't use ND, and 802.11 is fast enough that it wouldn't
make
> > much difference.
> >
> > Suggested resolution: Replace the first paragraph of Appendix B with =
the
> > following:
> >
> >    In the past, credible proposals have been made in the Seamoby Work=
ing
> > Group
> >    and elsewhere for using context transfer to speed handover of
> > authentication, authorization,
> >    and accounting information, distributed firewall state, PPP contex=
t,
and
> > header
> >    compression context. Because the Working Group was not chartered t=
o
> >    develop context profile definitions for specific applications, non=
e
of
> > the proposals
> >    submitted to Seamoby were accepted as Working Group items. At this
time,
> > work
> >    continues to develop a context profile definition for RFC 3095 hea=
der
> > compression
> >    context [RFC3095] and to characterize the performance gains
obtainable by
> > using
> >    header compression, but the work is not yet complete. In addition,
there
> > are several
> >    commercial wireless products that reportedly use non-standard,
> > non-interoperable
> >    context transfer protocols.
> >
> >    As a consequence, it is difficult at this time to point to with a
solid
> > example of
> >    how context transfer could result in a commercially viable, widely
> > deployable,
> >    interoperable benefit  for wireless networks. This is one reason w=
hy
CTP
> > is being
> >    proposed as an Experimental protocol, rather than Standards Track.
> > However, it
> >    nevertheless seems valuable to have a simple example that shows ho=
w
> > handover
> >    could benefit from using CTP. As an example of how context transfe=
r
can
> > improve the
> >    performance of IP layer handover, we consider transferring IPv6 ML=
D
state
> > [RFC2710].
> >    MLD state is a particularly good example because every IPv6 node m=
ust
> >   perform two MLD messaging sequences on the wireless link to establi=
sh
> >    itself as an MLD listener prior to performing router discovery
> >    [RFC2461] or duplicate address detection [RFC2462] or before
> >    sending/receiving any application-specific traffic (including Mobi=
le
> >    IP handover signaling, if any). The node must subscribe to the Sol=
i-
> >    cited Node Multicast Address as soon as it comes up on the link. A=
ny
> >    application-specific multicast addresses must be re-established as
> >    well. Context transfer can significantly speed up re-establishing
> >    multicast state by allowing the nAR to initialize MLD for a node t=
hat
> >    just completed handover; without any MLD signaling on the new wire=
-
> >    less link. The same approach could be used for transferring multic=
ast
> >    context in IPv4.
> >
> > and add the following paragraph after the second paragraph Appendix B=
 in
the
> > current draft:
> >
> >    This example might seem a bit contrived because MLD isn't used in
typical
> >    cellular protocols and wireless local area network protocols
typically
> > have
> >    enough bandwidth that sending a single MLD message might not be
viewed
> >    as such a performance burden. An example of a wireless protocol wh=
ere
MLD
> >    context transfer might be useful is IEEE 802.15.1 (Bluetooth). IEE=
E
> > 802.15.1 has
> >    two IP "profiles": one with and one without PPP. The profile witho=
ut
PPP
> > would
> >    use MLD. 802.15.1 has a maximum bandwidth of about 800kbps, shared
> > between
> >    all nodes on the link, so a host on a moderately loaded 802.15.1
access
> > point could
> >    experience the kind of bandwith described in the previous paragrap=
h.
In
> > addition
> >    802.15.1 handover times typically run upwards of a second or more
because
> > the
> >    host must resynchronize its frequency hopping pattern with the acc=
ess
> > point, so
> >    anything the IP layer could do to to alleviate further delay would=
 be
> > beneficial.
> >
> > and removing the following two sentences from the second paragraph in
> > Appendix B:
> >
> >   The former is approximate for a narrowband 3G cel-
> >    lular links and the latter for a heavily utilized 802.11b WLAN lin=
k,
> >    both running Voice over IP (VoIP).
> >
> >   Considering most ATM-based 3G voice cellular pro-
> >    tocols try to keep total voice handover delay less than 40- 80 mse=
c.,
> >    MLD signaling could have a large impact on the performance of inte=
r-
> >    subnet VoIP handover.
> >
> > Issue 2
> > --------
> >
> > Issue: The draft as written specifies using UDP without retransmit fo=
r
the
> > transport protocol. This is not acceptable from a congestion control =
and
> > usability standpoint, the points made in Appendix  A about timing
> > notwidthstanding. Both Allison and James brought up these issues at
various
> > times during the requirements discussion and during previous reviews =
of
the
> > draft.
> >
> > The issue with UDP is that CTP is expected to be used frequently betw=
een
> > access routers in a wide area network, like between two hotspot clust=
ers
> > connected by T1 or other low capacity lines. Since access networks of
these
> > types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the
frequency
> > of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be hi=
gh
> > enough to render the protocol unusable in general. While the Working
Group
> > could develop a specialized UDP retransmit algorithm, there is no nee=
d
since
> > both TCP and SCTP could provide adequate performance for CTP. Below a=
re
two
> > suggestions for resolution of the issue, and a preferred resolution.
> >
> > Suggestion 1: Use TCP.
> >
> > The advantage of this suggestion is that TCP is already widely
implemented
> > and is well understood, so it could serve for immediate implementatio=
n
and
> > experiment. The disadvantage is that TCP provides no way to control t=
he
> > retransmit timer in general, so the timeliness of the transfer could =
not
be
> > assured without additional measures.
> >
> > Suggestion 2: Use SCTP.
> >
> > The advantage of using SCTP is that it provides a partial reliability
mode
> > which allows the retransmit timer to be set. This would allow the
timeliness
> > of the transfer to be controlled. The disadvantage is that SCTP is no=
t
yet
> > widely implemented.
> >
> > Preferred Resolution: Suggestion 2.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Seamoby mailing list
> > Seamoby@ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/seamoby
>
> --=20
> Ghyslain Pelletier, Dipl. Ing.
> Wireless IP Optimizations
> AWARE - Advanced Wireless Algorithm Research
> Ericsson Research, Corporate Unit
>
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> Box 920, S-97128 Lule=E5, SWEDEN
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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .41

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

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SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
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The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
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SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
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negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
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Opening Price: 1.00
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
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revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
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geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

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that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
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SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.00
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right 
information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront 
of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with 
Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
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therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

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of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent 
to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may 
be sold at any time, even after positive statements have 
been made regarding the above company.
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Market Watch News Flash

Explosive short term trading profits in a new technology
issue (Ticker: SRGE) are being predicted as many 
significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.00
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right 
information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront 
of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with 
Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

--------------------------------------------------------

Information within this email contains "forward looking 
statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the 
Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21B and the Securities 
Exchange Act of 1934. Any statements that express or 
involve discussions with respect to predictions, goals, 
expectations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, 
assumptions or future events or performance are not 
statements of historical fact and may be "forward 
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Forward looking statements are based upon expectations, 
estimates and projections, at the time the statements 
are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties 
which could cause actual results or events to differ 
materially from those presently anticipated. Forward 
looking statements in this action may be identified 
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"expects", "estimates", "believes", "understands", "will", 
"anticipates", or that by statements indicating certain 
actions "may", "could", or "might" occur. All information 
provided within this email pertaining to investing, stocks, 
securities must be understood as information provided and 
not investment advice. Emerging Equity Alert advises all 
readers and subscribers to seek advice from a registered 
professional securities representative before deciding to 
trade in stocks featured within this email. None of the 
material within this report shall be construed as any kind 
of investment advice. 

In compliance with Section 17(b), we disclose the holdings 
of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent 
to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may 
be sold at any time, even after positive statements have 
been made regarding the above company.
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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

Market Watch News Flash

Explosive short term trading profits in a new technology
issue (Ticker: SRGE) are being predicted as many 
significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.00
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right 
information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront 
of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with 
Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
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Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .41

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
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via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

Market Watch Special Alert is delivered online on a quarterly 
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Market Watch Special Alert achieved record results for 
our Investment Alert for the First Quarter of 2004. 
Our subscribers have pocketed huge gains by revealing 
unknown and undervalued gems thrust into the spotlight.

Results for our First Quarter Investor Alert issued in 
December 2003:
Company Recommended: Torvec, Inc. (TOVC)
Price when recommended: 1.45
Highest price reached: 8.99 (+520%)

Second Quarter Investment Alert:
Deer Park Technology, Inc. (DRPT)

Price: .41

Assets: over 18 Million (2.09 per share)
Est. 2004 EPS: .15 Growth 300%+
Shares Out: 8.6 million
Float: 1.7 million
Average PE: Industry 23-25

Put DRPT on your radar for the purpose of immediate 
investment. Merger completed with 10-year old 
"entertainment empire". Name change imminent to reflect 
a treasure-trove of entertainment media properties.

Stock Performance Guide: DRPT
7 day trading target: 1.20
30 day trading target: 2.50
12-Month Est. Average PE X 2004 EPS =3D 3.75

One glance inside DRPT's programming vault will make you 
realize that there is basically none of the Company's 
intrinsic value reflected in the price of the stock. 
This is a direct result of a stock that is completely 
unknown to investors. Watch how quickly prices roar when 
word spreads, investors grab their calculators, and the 
realization is clear that this stock is trading for just 
pennies on every dollar of tangible assets.

The value of the Company's core assets will force its way 
into the stock price, with this explosive entity stepping 
into the spotlight and evolving DRPT into Media Classics 
International, Inc. Although a new name to investors, Media 
Classics is a major video stock footage company with 
worldwide distribution that has amassed a 3,000 film product 
line since 1994.

An overview of Media Classics' holdings reveals a tremendous 
diversity of entertainment media, started from scratch about 
ten years ago that has subsequently morphed into an almost 
$20 Million asset empire with top award winning producers 
and directors at the helm. 

The Company's entertainment assets are comprised of over 
2,400 hours of stock film footage, documentary and educational 
films, over $8 Million of animated art and programming, 
distribution rights for 110 full-length feature films 
categorized as top box office draws starring Oscar winners 
and a who's-who of Hollywood actors, as well as sports 
programming, and music rights. This complete library is 
distributed worldwide in VHS, DVD, on cable television and 
via the Internet, and is a continuing source of rapidly 
growing revenues. 

Several recent news announcements are well-timed with the 
upcoming corporate name change and will add significant 
value to a growing bottom line. These releases include:
1. The licensing of 36 films for distribution as DVD's 
and home video through a group of entertainment companies.
2. The completion of ten (10) documentaries to be released 
within 60 days produced as a joint venture with well-
known Terramar Productions.
3. A contract to provide entertainment products to the US 
Navy for use on board ship and at Navy bases around the globe. 

Here are some figures that put into perspective the enormous 
potential revenues that are available to industry players 
with diverse entertainment properties. The movie industry 
generates $150 Billion while the entire music industry 
yields $30 Billion worldwide. Video rentals in the US totaled 
$7 Billion, video sales reached $10 Billion, and DVD sales 
totaled $4 Billion for a total of $21 Billion in post-theatrical 
gross profits. With 50% of the wholesale price of a DVD or 
VHS going to the producer or studio, it is clear to aggressive 
investors why DRPT (Media Classics) has become our #1 stock 
pick for 2004. 

Market Watch Special Alert is delivered online on a quarterly 
basis. All information is derived from publicly available 
sources. Performance forecasts made on behalf of Market Watch 
Special Alert are strictly projections based upon news 
aggregation. Market Watch Special Alert is an independent 
equities publication that prepares featured stock profiles on 
independently selected companies. While our intent is to 
identify companies that may provide substantial investment 
profits, Market Watch Special Alert is not liable for any 
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has been retained for a fee of sixteen thousand dollars and 
will not hold, purchase, or otherwise participate in the trading 
of any featured company. Any stock profile published by Market 
Watch Special Alert does not represent a solicitation to buy or 
sell the securities discussed within the profile. It is advised 
that any purchase or sale decisions be discussed with a 
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I will not waste your time nor will you waste mine.

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Give me two minutes of your time and we will see

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if what I have is what your looking for.

</div>

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&nbsp;

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If I try to sell anything just hang up.My business

</div>

<div>

can be done all from your home or you may wish

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to do it outside of your home.It is that flexable.

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This is not one of those internet games or scams.

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This is a real company in&nbsp;a real building.Debt free.

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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

Market Watch News Flash

Explosive short term trading profits in a new technology
issue (Ticker: SRGE) are being predicted as many 
significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.15
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
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in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

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significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

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that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
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SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.15
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
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information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
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advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
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therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

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trade in stocks featured within this email. None of the 
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of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

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SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
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International telecom markets.

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patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
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The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
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inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
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personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.15
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

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significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.15
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right 
information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront 
of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with 
Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

--------------------------------------------------------

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statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the 
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Exchange Act of 1934. Any statements that express or 
involve discussions with respect to predictions, goals, 
expectations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, 
assumptions or future events or performance are not 
statements of historical fact and may be "forward 
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Forward looking statements are based upon expectations, 
estimates and projections, at the time the statements 
are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties 
which could cause actual results or events to differ 
materially from those presently anticipated. Forward 
looking statements in this action may be identified 
through the use of words such as: "projects", "foresee", 
"expects", "estimates", "believes", "understands", "will", 
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provided within this email pertaining to investing, stocks, 
securities must be understood as information provided and 
not investment advice. Emerging Equity Alert advises all 
readers and subscribers to seek advice from a registered 
professional securities representative before deciding to 
trade in stocks featured within this email. None of the 
material within this report shall be construed as any kind 
of investment advice. 

In compliance with Section 17(b), we disclose the holdings 
of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent 
to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may 
be sold at any time, even after positive statements have 
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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

Market Watch News Flash

Explosive short term trading profits in a new technology
issue (Ticker: SRGE) are being predicted as many 
significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
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negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.15
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

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advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

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TVoDSL 2005: Broadcasting TV content over ADSL

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Rajeev,

Since nobody has responded to your message, I suppose I must. Note that I'm
responding here from a technical standpoint and not as WG chair.

Your assertion that we do not know today definitively how these access
networks will be deployed, nor do we really have any data on existing
deployed hotspot or WAN wireless networks sounds accurate, at least as far
as I'm aware. My assertion in the original email about congestion was based
on talking with people who have been working on congestion control for most
of their career and my limited knowledge about how some of these networks
are deployed. In the US, it is common to underprovision DSL networks by up
to 80:1 through a T1 line, and T1 is also being used extensively for hotspot
deployments, such as T-mobile's deployments in Starbucks. Nevertheless,
there are other networks, such as most of those in Japan, that don't use T1
much, and intuition is never a substitute for hard experimental data. Until
someone has measured traffic on access networks and can say whether
congestion will be a problem, it remains conjecture.

With regard to your proposal to use ICMP, even disregarding the congestion
issue, I think this is a basic nonstarter as far as CTP is concerned, since,
at least for IPv6, there is a limitation on packet size of the MTU, and I
think there is also a limit for IPv4,  but I've been unable to find a
reference. While again it is difficult to predict, it is possible that the
amount of context information could exceed that limit, since unlike FMIP,
the amount of information in a CTD message is not fixed. A node could have
any number of video/audio sessions active, to say nothing of other context
information.

From the standpoint of achieving a uniform interrouter protocol for mobile
handover information transfer, it would certainly be prefereable from an
architectural standpoint to have one transport protocol for all of FMIP,
CARD, and CTP. Currently, FMIP uses ICMP, CARD uses a UDP with fixed
retransmit (also a problem that will need to be fixed), and CTP used UDP
with optional, unspecified fixed retransmit interval. Since FMIP and CTP are
time critical, their requirements for timeliness are a bit different than
for CARD, but I think that the congestion properties of the networks in
which they operate would be expected to be approximately the same. Do you
agree?

The proposal for SCTP was based on what I believe is called "partial
retransmit" mode, in which SCTP only retransmits until a timer pops. This is
different from TCP. I'm not familiar with the details of this, maybe someone
who knows SCTP better can comment. The people who I've talked to about this
believe that the partial retransmit mode should accommodate the need for
timeliness. With regard to the assertion that reliability is not needed
because the node can re-establish the state anyway, this is true, but the
difficulty is that if access networks do turn out to be congested and the
traffic is dropped, the handover optimizations could potentially fail so
often as to make them not useful, which is the point I was trying to make in
the original note.

Putting back my WG chair hat on, Allison's proposal to use SCTP is based on
the tradition in IESG/IETF of conservative design when it comes to questions
of congestion control, i.e., it is better to put something in there now that
has congestion control features than find out later, to our regret, that the
protocols are causing a congestion problem, even though they are
experimental and even though they are published with an applicability
statement warning people about the potential for a problem. This tradition
has served IETF well in the past, and I believe it makes a lot of sense now.
If it does turn out after much measurement and experimentation that
congestion is not a problem in wireless access networks, the transport
protocol can be changed when and if CTP ever goes to PS.

As a practical matter, we really do need to get this spec published, and we
cannot get it published (indeed it will not even be reviewed by the IESG)
until we satisfy Allison's concern about the transport protocol. Therefore,
I'd like to again propose that we use SCTP. I think we should also include a
paragraph in Section 3 which summarizes our discussion on this list, and
explicitly calls out the transport protocol as an area where more research
is needed, which I hope will satisfy your concerns about our current state
of knowlege in this area.

            jak



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rajeev Koodli" <rajeev@iprg.nokia.com>
To: "James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
Cc: <seamoby@ietf.org>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 3:25 PM
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>
> Hello Jim,
>
> "Since access networks of these
> types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the frequency
> of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be high
> enough to render the protocol unusable in general. " does not sound like a
> good reason for an experimental protocol. We have not had any
> experiences with actual deployments to support this seemingly logical
> statement. And, one could argue that we could state in the applicability
> statement that "the usefulness of the protocol on routinely congested
> networks could be limited". BTW, I am not arguing for UDP. I would
> like to have the CTP messages as blocks that could be carried in ICMP
> so that they could be used in conjunction with fast handovers.
>
> As you note below, both TCP and SCTP have shortcomings not suitable
> for CT which is useful mostly when synchronized tightly with fast
> handovers. The distinction between failed CT due to a dropped packet and
> a CT that is not on time is thin. Besides, features (QoS, HC) always need
to
> have recovery mechanisms anyway, which would re-build the state.
> So, I would suggest using ICMP without re-transmissions. We know
> the links where it works. We would like to try it on bottlenecked links
and
> provide some data, which we could use when the spec is up for PS.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rajeev
>
>
> >
> > Issue 2
> > --------
> >
> > Issue: The draft as written specifies using UDP without retransmit for
the
> > transport protocol. This is not acceptable from a congestion control and
> > usability standpoint, the points made in Appendix  A about timing
> > notwidthstanding. Both Allison and James brought up these issues at
various
> > times during the requirements discussion and during previous reviews of
the
> > draft.
> >
> > The issue with UDP is that CTP is expected to be used frequently between
> > access routers in a wide area network, like between two hotspot clusters
> > connected by T1 or other low capacity lines. Since access networks of
these
> > types are just where one might expect congestion to develop, the
frequency
> > of packet drops for UDP without retransmit would be expected to be high
> > enough to render the protocol unusable in general. While the Working
Group
> > could develop a specialized UDP retransmit algorithm, there is no need
since
> > both TCP and SCTP could provide adequate performance for CTP. Below are
two
> > suggestions for resolution of the issue, and a preferred resolution.
> >
> > Suggestion 1: Use TCP.
> >
> > The advantage of this suggestion is that TCP is already widely
implemented
> > and is well understood, so it could serve for immediate implementation
and
> > experiment. The disadvantage is that TCP provides no way to control the
> > retransmit timer in general, so the timeliness of the transfer could not
be
> > assured without additional measures.
> >
> > Suggestion 2: Use SCTP.
> >
> > The advantage of using SCTP is that it provides a partial reliability
mode
> > which allows the retransmit timer to be set. This would allow the
timeliness
> > of the transfer to be controlled. The disadvantage is that SCTP is not
yet
> > widely implemented.
> >
> > Preferred Resolution: Suggestion 2.
> >
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for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

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that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

Market Watch News Flash

Explosive short term trading profits in a new technology
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significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
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system failures.

Opening Price: 1.20
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
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information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
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of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
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Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
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of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent 
to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may 
be sold at any time, even after positive statements have 
been made regarding the above company.
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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

Market Watch News Flash

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significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.20
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right 
information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront 
of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with 
Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

--------------------------------------------------------

Information within this email contains "forward looking 
statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the 
Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21B and the Securities 
Exchange Act of 1934. Any statements that express or 
involve discussions with respect to predictions, goals, 
expectations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, 
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readers and subscribers to seek advice from a registered 
professional securities representative before deciding to 
trade in stocks featured within this email. None of the 
material within this report shall be construed as any kind 
of investment advice. 

In compliance with Section 17(b), we disclose the holdings 
of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent 
to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may 
be sold at any time, even after positive statements have 
been made regarding the above company.
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**SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE****SRGE**

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Explosive short term trading profits in a new technology
issue (Ticker: SRGE) are being predicted as many 
significant news releases indicate strong contractual 
revenues with major Telecom firms. 

SRGE has been successfully working with Telecommunications 
giants (with five million subscriber lines) over the last 4 
years, but is now projecting "a banner expansion year with 
geometric growth in revenues" due largely to sales demands 
for their innovative patented products and expansion into 
International telecom markets.

Surge Technologies, Inc. (SRGE) is a cutting-edge leader 
that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets superior 
patented outside plant electrical surge protection 
equipment for the telecommunications industry.
The US sales projections for this market are $4 Billion 
annually, with this figure growing rapidly as the 
expansion of new HDSL and ADSL technologies permeate 
the industry.

SRGE provides the Telecom industry with the highest 
quality "protection element" for complex digital switches. 
Protecting these Telecom switching devices is crucial to 
inclusive components that are sensitive to interruptions 
in voltage which can cause extensive network damage, thus 
negating costly and time-consuming repair and down-time.
Major Telecoms require this protection throughout their 
network in order to prevent the hazards of harming 
personnel, damaging expensive equipment, and massive 
system failures.

Opening Price: 1.20
10 Day Target: 2.30
1 Month Target: 4.50
Outstanding Shares: 16.5 million
Est. Float: 2.2 million

How many times have you seen issues explode but you 
couldn't get your hands on them or didn't have the right 
information in time? We are alerting you now to a special 
Company with a unique technology that is on the forefront 
of a breakout! We are excited about SRGE's technology 
and expansion as they prepare to ink deal after deal with 
Major US Telecoms in conjunction with dramatic increases 
in revenue for 2004 and 2005. SRGE has made phenomenal 
advancements but may be one of the few stocks left in 
this industry group that is unknown and undervalued, 
therefore a 300%-400% jump may wind up being conservative. 

--------------------------------------------------------

Information within this email contains "forward looking 
statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the 
Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21B and the Securities 
Exchange Act of 1934. Any statements that express or 
involve discussions with respect to predictions, goals, 
expectations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, 
assumptions or future events or performance are not 
statements of historical fact and may be "forward 
looking statements".

Forward looking statements are based upon expectations, 
estimates and projections, at the time the statements 
are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties 
which could cause actual results or events to differ 
materially from those presently anticipated. Forward 
looking statements in this action may be identified 
through the use of words such as: "projects", "foresee", 
"expects", "estimates", "believes", "understands", "will", 
"anticipates", or that by statements indicating certain 
actions "may", "could", or "might" occur. All information 
provided within this email pertaining to investing, stocks, 
securities must be understood as information provided and 
not investment advice. Emerging Equity Alert advises all 
readers and subscribers to seek advice from a registered 
professional securities representative before deciding to 
trade in stocks featured within this email. None of the 
material within this report shall be construed as any kind 
of investment advice. 

In compliance with Section 17(b), we disclose the holdings 
of independently purchased shares of srge prior to the 
publication of this report. Be aware of an inherent conflict 
of interest resulting from such holdings due to our intent 
to profit from the liquidation of these shares. Shares may 
be sold at any time, even after positive statements have 
been made regarding the above company.
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James,

> I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby =
drafts.
> The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG.=20

Just out of curiosity, what is the ROHC WG reviewing CTP for? =20

> The CARD draft has undergone IESG review. The following list contains =
the=20
> issues and a suggested resolution.

Was the list just for CARD?

John

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> > I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby
drafts.
> > The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what is the ROHC WG reviewing CTP for?
>

I believe the intent is to get input from a potential customer of CTP, and
header compression context has always been a top potential customer.

> > The CARD draft has undergone IESG review. The following list contains
the
> > issues and a suggested resolution.
>
> Was the list just for CARD?
>

The only point that specifically applied to CTP as well was the ICMP type
code point. The solution I worked out with Thomas and Allison was one type
code for both protocols, and a separate draft requesting IANA allocation.

I suspect we might see similar comments from the Security ADs about CTP,
since the level of detail in the security design for CTP is approximately
the same as for CARD. I suggest we wait until they've had a chance to review
it first, however, unless I my dialog with them about CARD suggests that
they would be happy with a similar solution.

            jak


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I spoke with Allison and Thomas Narten this week about the Seamoby drafts.
The CTP draft is currently undergoing review by the ROHC WG. The CARD draft
has undergone IESG review. The following list contains the issues and a
suggested resolution.

1) (This issue applies to CTP too) CARD requests allocation of a number of
ICMP type codes. These type codes are limited to 255 total. Since CARD is
experimental, it is possible that it will never be deployed and the type
codes will therefore become unavailable for other protocols that might be
deployed.

Suggested solution: Seamoby will ask IANA for a single type code per IP
version, one for IPv4 and one for IPv6, that is used for all Seamoby ICMP
based protocols. The subtype code will indicate the actual message type.
Seamoby will generate a third draft with IANA instructions (which I
volunteer to author) that the two protocol drafts will refer to.

2) Ted Hardie expressed an objection to the use of multicast. The objection
was that the amount of data that would have to be multicast would be
expected to be large. Also, as is the case with the ICMP types, multicast
would consume an IPv4 multicast address for an experimental protocol that
would probably never be deployed.

Suggested solution: remove multicast from the protocol for initial
publication.

3) Russ Housley gave the following editorial comments:

 Expand 'AP' and 'PCF' the first time they are used.

  In section 3.2: s/optimized handover/optimal handover/

Suggested solution: fix the text.

4) Security issues. From Russ Housley:

Section 4.6 and section 5.2.1 say:
  >
  > IPSec ESP MUST be used with a non-null integrity protection and
  > origin authentication algorithm and SHOULD be used with a non-null
  > encryption algorithm for protecting the confidentiality of the CARD
  > information.
  >
  This is not sufficient.  Where do the cryptographic keys come from?
  Is IKE required?

  I expected section 6.3 to discuss the establishment of security
  associations for IPsec ESP, but it does not.

Related followup from Steve Bellovin:

I agree with Russ' comments on establishing IPsec SAs.  Beyond that, how
does a mobile node know who is authorized to be an AR?  This is especially
problematic when roaming between domains.

Protecting ICMP messages with IPsec can be difficult.  The authors need to
do a full-fledged design to make sure that it can be done.  The experience
of the SEND group may be relevant.

What in the CARD messages may need to be confidential, and hence require
encryption?  The analysis needs to be done here, so that users of this spec
know when to turn it on.

Suggested solution: I volunteer come with some text to replace the current
security considerations section that utilizes the SEND router certificate
and CGA to verify the node's right to claim the address, and that gives a
short discussion of threats. I'll negotiate with Russ and Steve on the text.

            jak



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