From bounces-ietf-ssh-owner-secsh-tyoxbijeg7-archive=lists.ietf.org@NetBSD.org Fri May 7 03:31:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-secsh-tyoxbijeg7-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-secsh-tyoxbijeg7-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399023A69B4 for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 03:31:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.463 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.046, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5iP4ap99jLkR for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 03:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.netbsd.org (mail.NetBSD.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:7:2e0:81ff:fe52:9ab6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565233A6A1D for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 03:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.netbsd.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id C012F63B241; Fri, 7 May 2010 10:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ietf-ssh@netbsd.org Received: from mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp (mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp [210.232.35.65]) by mail.netbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD9863B117 for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 10:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (sadoku34 [10.7.18.34]) by mail12.ics.ntts.co.jp (8.14.4/8.13.4/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o47ATwIn019128; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:29:58 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.13.8/NTTSOFT) id o47ATwS2022372; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:29:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.32] by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp with SMTP id VAA22371; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:29:58 +0900 Received: from mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o47ATwDr031100; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:29:58 +0900 Received: from mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o47ATvVu015428; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:29:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds32 (ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.32]) by mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with SMTP id o47ATvff015425; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:29:57 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BE3EB8B.3000302@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 19:29:31 +0900 From: Satoru Kanno User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson CC: ietf-ssh@netbsd.org, cfrg@irtf.org, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: Call for Review on draft-kanno-secsh-camellia-00 References: <4BD55CE3.4020706@po.ntts.co.jp> <871ve2h5r5.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <871ve2h5r5.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.3-Client X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.3-Server Sender: ietf-ssh-owner@NetBSD.org List-Id: ietf-ssh.NetBSD.org Precedence: list (2010/04/26 19:23), Simon Josefsson wrote: > Satoru Kanno writes: > >> Dear List, >> >> We have submitted draft of Camellia for secure shell as an individual >> draft, because we found the Camellia patch for OpenSSH. >> >> Camellia draft: >> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-kanno-secsh-camellia-00.txt >> Camellia patch: >> https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1340 >> >> Comments about our document would be welcome. > Dear Simon, First of all, I'm sorry for the delayed reply. And, thanks for your comments. > Thanks for writing the document. My comments: > > 1) As you know, Camellia is patented by your organization, and you need > to file a patent disclosure to the IETF. The earlier disclosures > related to Camellia are not relevant: they don't permit use for Secure > Shell. Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Secure Shell. The IPR style is similar to Kerberos. > 2) It is not possible to implement your document without also reading > RFC 5646, thus I believe that document has to be a normative reference. > Alternatively, you could duplicate the necessary text. > OK. I will move the document for GCM mode from informative reference to normative reference. I will revise your comment to the next draft. By the way, I'd like to confirm your pointed RFC, I think that RFC 5646 is typo. Is RFC 5647 right? -- RFC5646: Tags for Identifying Languages -- RFC5647: AES Galois Counter Mode for the Secure Shell Transport Layer Protocol Best regards, Satoru > /Simon > -- Satoru Kanno Security Business Unit Mobile and Security Solution Business Group NTT Software Corporation e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp From bounces-ietf-ssh-owner-secsh-tyoxbijeg7-archive=lists.ietf.org@NetBSD.org Fri May 7 03:59:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-secsh-tyoxbijeg7-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-secsh-tyoxbijeg7-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C043A68C2 for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 03:59:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.773 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.773 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.663, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W2BypBXuDf+f for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 03:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.netbsd.org (mail.NetBSD.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:7:2e0:81ff:fe52:9ab6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB06D3A676A for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 03:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.netbsd.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 7AD9163B111; Fri, 7 May 2010 10:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ietf-ssh@netbsd.org Received: from yxa-v.extundo.com (yxa-v.extundo.com [83.241.177.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "yxa-v.extundo.com", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mail.netbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 414C663B100 for ; Fri, 7 May 2010 10:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mocca (c80-216-25-148.bredband.comhem.se [80.216.25.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa-v.extundo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o47AwWqQ008480 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 May 2010 12:58:37 +0200 From: Simon Josefsson To: Satoru Kanno Cc: ietf-ssh@netbsd.org, cfrg@irtf.org, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: Re: Call for Review on draft-kanno-secsh-camellia-00 References: <4BD55CE3.4020706@po.ntts.co.jp> <871ve2h5r5.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4BE3EB8B.3000302@po.ntts.co.jp> OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:22:100507:cfrg@irtf.org::6LfSci7pYRvsaFjC:5XCk X-Hashcash: 1:22:100507:kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp::RIFwSOKrQMnjlOFa:2wTs X-Hashcash: 1:22:100507:kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp::RX2JpMuvzCWgGkKM:6GwQ X-Hashcash: 1:22:100507:ietf-ssh@netbsd.org::/8F+rwuDZscfiVZT:01x3b Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 12:58:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4BE3EB8B.3000302@po.ntts.co.jp> (Satoru Kanno's message of "Fri, 07 May 2010 19:29:31 +0900") Message-ID: <87d3x8x9k8.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96 at yxa-v X-Virus-Status: Clean Sender: ietf-ssh-owner@NetBSD.org List-Id: ietf-ssh.NetBSD.org Precedence: list Satoru Kanno writes: > Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Secure Shell. The IPR style is > similar to Kerberos. Thanks! >> 2) It is not possible to implement your document without also reading >> RFC 5646, thus I believe that document has to be a normative reference. >> Alternatively, you could duplicate the necessary text. > > OK. I will move the document for GCM mode from informative reference > to normative reference. I will revise your comment to the next draft. > > By the way, I'd like to confirm your pointed RFC, I think that RFC > 5646 is typo. Is RFC 5647 right? > > -- RFC5646: Tags for Identifying Languages > -- RFC5647: AES Galois Counter Mode for the Secure Shell Transport > Layer Protocol Yes, I meant RFC5647. 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Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:36 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.13.8/NTTSOFT) id o4IBXa70015446; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.32] by sadoku34.silk.ntts.co.jp with SMTP id WAA15445; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:36 +0900 Received: from mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4IBXZwu023725; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:35 +0900 Received: from mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with ESMTP id o4IBXZYf019593; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccmds32 (ccmds32.silk.ntts.co.jp [10.107.0.32]) by mail126.silk.ntts.co.jp (8.14.3/NTTSOFT) with SMTP id o4IBXZra019590; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:35 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4BF27AF3.7050904@po.ntts.co.jp> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:33:07 +0900 From: Satoru Kanno User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ja; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Josefsson CC: ietf-ssh@netbsd.org, cfrg@irtf.org, kanda.masayuki@lab.ntt.co.jp Subject: New Version: draft-kanno-secsh-camellia-01 References: <4BD55CE3.4020706@po.ntts.co.jp> <871ve2h5r5.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> <4BE3EB8B.3000302@po.ntts.co.jp> <87d3x8x9k8.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> In-Reply-To: <87d3x8x9k8.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.3-Client X-CC-Mail-RelayStamp: CC-Mail-V4.3-Server Sender: ietf-ssh-owner@NetBSD.org List-Id: ietf-ssh.NetBSD.org Precedence: list Folks, I uploaded the revised draft. URL: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-kanno-secsh-camellia-01.txt Change from -00: - Simon comments + Move to Normative reference on RFC 5647 [Finished] + Camellia IPR for Secure Shell [ongoing] All other comments and suggestions are welcomed. Regards, Satoru (2010/05/07 19:58), Simon Josefsson wrote: > Satoru Kanno writes: > >> Now, we are preparing Camellia IPR for Secure Shell. The IPR style is >> similar to Kerberos. > > Thanks! > >>> 2) It is not possible to implement your document without also reading >>> RFC 5646, thus I believe that document has to be a normative reference. >>> Alternatively, you could duplicate the necessary text. >> >> OK. I will move the document for GCM mode from informative reference >> to normative reference. I will revise your comment to the next draft. >> >> By the way, I'd like to confirm your pointed RFC, I think that RFC >> 5646 is typo. Is RFC 5647 right? >> >> -- RFC5646: Tags for Identifying Languages >> -- RFC5647: AES Galois Counter Mode for the Secure Shell Transport >> Layer Protocol > > Yes, I meant RFC5647. Must have been muscle memory typing there. > > /Simon > -- Satoru Kanno Security Business Unit Mobile and Security Solution Business Group NTT Software Corporation e-mail: kanno.satoru@po.ntts.co.jp