From nobody Wed May 2 04:22:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851F5126C83; Wed, 2 May 2018 04:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UpjjjMlu3X3n; Wed, 2 May 2018 04:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 521FA126B72; Wed, 2 May 2018 04:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6141A1801590; Wed, 2 May 2018 13:22:16 +0200 (CEST) To: "Andrew G. Malis" Cc: "Zafar Ali (zali)" , "mpls@ietf.org" , SPRING WG List , mpls , "sfc@ietf.org" References: <2ac6b61d-3a38-1aaf-62ae-d923f1ad7468@pi.nu> <052998BB-B820-412C-8363-B3EB7551B299@nokia.com> <1522554645079.8864@bell.ca> <1522812352107.5966@bell.ca> <489a9667-f159-4607-5834-b4bacf64989c@gmail.com> <09337fcf-64c9-450c-8dbc-ba8330611fe4.xiaohu.xxh@alibaba-inc.com> <6EE25554-3714-4A75-896F-24CC89BAA807@gmail.com> <5dab5411-0b08-4bd4-86ec-752e1803c3ff.xiaohu.xxh@alibaba-inc.com> <6bea41f6-5519-f512-92e5-a72bbd6187da@gmail.com> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <48af626d-bfae-3e11-39ec-a36fa2984d81@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 13:22:15 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] [mpls] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 11:22:22 -0000 Andy, The chairs of the SPRING and MPLS wg has discussed the proposal to adopt draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining in the MPLS wg. Our agreement is that draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining belongs in the SPRING wg. /Loa for the SPRING and MPLS wg co-chairs On 2018-04-15 16:55, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > Zafar, et al, > > Perhaps the fairest to all concerned is for the MPLS WG to adopt both > drafts, and then it will be up to the WG (rather than the authors) to > best determine the technical details going forward, and how best to > document them. That way the work becomes the consensus product of the WG. > > Cheers, > Andy > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 12:44 AM, Zafar Ali (zali) > wrote: > > Dear Stewart, WG Chairs and the WG, ____ > > __ __ > > I do not agree with Stewart’s points and will response in a separate > email. But all that is just noise and that cannot resolve the issue > at hand. ____ > > __ __ > > A countless time, Xiaohu has raised the issue that the intellectual > property for the contents in section 6 of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc > belongs to draft-xu-mpls-service-chaining. Please see one of > Xiaohu's recent emails with the subject *"[spring] For the fairness > and justice of the IETF culture"* dated Thursday, April 5, 2018 at > 12:34 AM, copied in the following. ____ > > __ __ > > This issue was also raised by many during the WG adoption poll of > the document. The chairs adopted the work with the promise of fixing > the issue. Specifically, in the email to announce the adoption of > the ID to the WG, the chair(s) mentioned the following:____ > > __ __ > > "That decision is taken, the issues that has been pointed out are____ > > noted. These issues need to be resolved on the mailing list and____ > > rough consensus need to be reached for text changes in the document.____ > > Actually the members of the working group have much more influence > on____ > > a working group document, than on an individual draft.____ > > It would be far better if we now focused on proposing text changes,____ > > rather than discussing processes."____ > > __ __ > > This is a serious issue; we need to remove section 6 from draft- > farrel-mpls-sfc to move forward. These contents will proceed in > draft-xu*, where the contents started initially. Everyone will have > a fair chance to contribute to the contents as part of > collaborations on draft-xu*. __ __ > > __ __ > > Thanks____ > > __ __ > > Regards … Zafar ____ > > __ __ > > *From: *spring > on behalf of "徐小虎(义先)" > > > *Date: *Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:34 AM > *To: *"mpls@ietf.org " >, SPRING WG List > > *Cc: *"ietf@ietf.org " > > *Subject: *[spring] For the fairness and justice of the IETF > culture//Re: [mpls] What to do with draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00.txt____ > > __ __ > > Hi all,____ > > __ __ > > As I had pointed out before, this draft describes two MPLS-based SFC____ > > approaches: one is how to encode the NSH info, more specifically, > the SPI____ > > and SI info by two MPLS labels, which is still a stateful SFC > mechanism____ > > just like NSH; another is how to leverage the MPLS-SR to realize a____ > > stateless SFC (see section 6).____ > > __ __ > > It has been pointed out by many people that section 6 of the draft > copies____ > > the____ > > idea of (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-mpls-service-chaining > )____ > > without any technology contribution except replacing “MPLS Segment____ > > Routing” by “Label Stack”. Funnily, one author of > draft-ietf-mpls-sfc____ > > had inadvertently admitted____ > > "using a different name for the same thing is not so clever" (see____ > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/y7FTc38ysVf6PyJlA04MEFSN9nc > ) > in____ > > another thread. ____ > > __ __ > > IMHO, the indulgence towards such behavior of copying____ > > ideas of existing drafts with word tricks would seriously trample____ > > underfoot the fairness and justice of the IETF culture. At least, it > would____ > > badly damage the interest and enthusiasm of IETF participants, > especially____ > > newcomers and non-native speakers of English.____ > > __ __ > > Best regards,____ > > Xiaohu____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > *From: *mpls > > on behalf of Stewart Bryant > > *Date: *Friday, April 13, 2018 at 3:10 AM > *To: *"徐小虎(义先)" > > *Cc: *"mpls@ietf.org " >, mpls >, Robert Raszuk >, "sfc@ietf.org " > > > *Subject: *Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of > draft-farrel-mpls-sfc____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > On 13/04/2018 08:23, 徐小虎(义先) wrote:____ > > Hi Stewart,____ > > __ __ > > Thanks for your response. For the SR-based SFC mechanism that > has been described in draft-xuclad*, it's not helpful to > describe it again in another draft. The most simple and > efficient way to address the overlapping issue is to reference > draft-xuclad* rather than "using a different name > for the same thing". I'm looking forward to seeing the revision > of draft-farrel* that would address the overlapping issue > concretely.____ > > > Please read what I said. > > There are subtle but important technical differences between the two > approaches. > > - Stewart > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > If co-authors of draft-farrel* believed the current text as > described in draft-xuclad* is not good enough or misses > something important, any comments and suggestions are more than > welcome.____ > > > I will send you some text to include in draft-xuclad that points to > the important differences in the approach taken in draft-farrel. > This will clarify the issue to the reader. > > I hope that this is an acceptable resolution of this issue. > > - Stewart > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > Best regards,____ > > Xiaohu____ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------____ > > Stewart Bryant > ____ > > 2018年4月13日(星期五) 13:27____ > > 徐小虎(义先) > ____ > > mpls ; > "Bernier, Daniel" > ; > Robert Raszuk ; > mpls@ietf.org; > sfc@ietf.org____ > > Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of > draft-farrel-mpls-sfc____ > > __ __ > > Hi Xiaohu ____ > > __ __ > > What an earlier version of the draft said is of no > importance. What it says going forward is what counts.____ > > __ __ > > Perhaps the way to address your concern is to include some > text of the form that I used in my email of yesterday to > describe to the reader the difference in approach. This is > consistent with earlier advice in this discussion to > reference the work from which this forked.____ > > __ __ > > - Stewart____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > Sent from my iPad____ > > > On 13 Apr 2018, at 03:35, 徐小虎(义先) > > > wrote:____ > > Hi Stewart,____ > > __ __ > > If draft-farrel* was just describing an MPLS-based SFC > technology that is different from the MPLS-SR-based SFC > technology that has been described in draft-xuclad*, that > would be fine. However, draft-farrel* also described the > technology that has been described in draft-xuclad* (see > section 6) by "using a different name for the same thing". > Note that the title of section 6 in those pervious versions > of draft-farrel* is ____ > > "MPLS Segment Routing". One co-author of draft-farrel* said > they worked very hard to change the "Segment Routing" term > to "label stack" term in the new version of draft-farrel* in > order to deal with the overlapping issue. However, such > change is just "using a different name for the same thing", > and it doesn't solve the overlapping issue at all, as had > been pointed out by many people. As said by one co-author of > draft-farrel*, in a thread which is irrelavant to this > overlapping issue, "using a different > name for the same thing is not so clever:)". In fact, it > would cause unneccessary confusions to implementors by > describing the same technology within different drafts. More > badly, it would set a bad precedant in the IETF of copying > the idea of the existing draft by > "using a different name for the same thing".____ > > > > ____ > > Best regards,____ > > Xiaohu____ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------____ > > Stewart Bryant > >____ > > 2018年4月12日(星期四) 23:04____ > > "Bernier, Daniel" > >; > Robert Raszuk >____ > > mpls@ietf.org>; > sfc@ietf.org>____ > > Re: [mpls] [sfc] Working Group adoption of > draft-farrel-mpls-sfc____ > > __ __ > > > Rather than have a process discussion, I think we should > go up a level > and better understand the technical differences between > the two drafts. > > draft-farrel-mpls-sfc describes the actions at a > hop in terms of a tuple > that mirrors the SFC approach that allows a short indication of > potentially re-entrant chains. In its simplest form it uses > a compact > MPLS stack to describe an arbitarily complex path that > is compatile with > simple edge routers which are often challenged in terms of > the number of > labels that they can push. > > draft-xu-clad-spring-sr-service-chaining unrolls the > path and explicitly > calls out each hop and each > function into the label stack. This results > in a much larger MPLS label stack that will challenge > some edge routers. > The way that we generally deal with imposition limits > is through the use > of binding-SIDs, which in the limiting case resolves to the > approach in > draft-farrel with the limitation that the position > on the path is > implicit in the label stack size rather than explicitly > specified by the SI. > > Mid-flight path changes (if such things are needed) is > clearly simpler > with draft-farrel. > > The short stack in draft-farrel comes at the cost of > greater network > forwarding stack, and the long stack is the price that > draft-xu-clad > pays for the reduction in forwarding state. > > The optimal design point between forwarding and > control plane state is > something that is dependent on many parameters, and is > dependent on many > network and operational > factors, so much so, that don't think it is wise > to rule either out of scope at this stage. > > The hybrid mode in section 6 of draft-farrel supports the > mixed mode in > section 7 of the draft. This allows the construction of > SFCs that are > the concatination of two or more compacted sub-chains. > This allows the > operator to deploy a solution > with the advantages of draft-farrel > together with some of the flexibility of draft-xu-clad. > > At this stage the two drafts are sufficienly different > that I think we > need to proceed with both at least to the point where we fully > understand the detailed consequences of the two > approachs and the > scenarios where each finds it's niche. > > After developing a better understanding the detail of > each design, their > control plane, and operational contexts and how > each maps to customer > network requirements, we can move the drafts to the > appropriate IETF > track. Such tracks may be anything from abandonment to > IETF standard for > one or both of these approaches. > > Meanwhile I think that we need to focus our efforts on a deeper > understanding of the technology and how each might > make the Internet > work better,  rather than spending effort on arguing > about IETF process. > > - Stewart > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls____ > > __ __ > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls____ > > __ __ > > > > ____ > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed May 2 05:10:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981F9120454; 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Malis" Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 08:10:24 -0400 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Cc: "Zafar Ali (zali)" , "mpls@ietf.org" , SPRING WG List , mpls , "sfc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f58a48056b37f9a3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] [mpls] Working Group adoption of draft-farrel-mpls-sfc X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 12:10:49 -0000 --000000000000f58a48056b37f9a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Loa, Thanks for the update, much appreciated. Cheers, Andy On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Andy, > > The chairs of the SPRING and MPLS wg has discussed the proposal to > adopt draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining in the MPLS wg. > Our agreement is that draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining > belongs in the SPRING wg. > > /Loa > for the SPRING and MPLS wg co-chairs > > On 2018-04-15 16:55, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > >> Zafar, et al, >> >> Perhaps the fairest to all concerned is for the MPLS WG to adopt both >> drafts, and then it will be up to the WG (rather than the authors) to best >> determine the technical details going forward, and how best to document >> them. That way the work becomes the consensus product of the WG. >> >> Cheers, >> Andy >> >> --000000000000f58a48056b37f9a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Loa,

Thanks for the update, much apprec= iated.

Cheers,
Andy

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 7:22 AM, = Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
A= ndy,

The chairs of the SPRING and MPLS wg has discussed the proposal to
adopt draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining in the MPLS wg.
Our agreement is that draft-xuclad-spring-sr-service-chaining
belongs in the SPRING wg.

/Loa
for the SPRING and MPLS wg co-chairs

On 2018-04-15 16:55, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
Zafar, et al,

Perhaps the fairest to all concerned is for the MPLS WG to adopt both draft= s, and then it will be up to the WG (rather than the authors) to best deter= mine the technical details going forward, and how best to document them. Th= at way the work becomes the consensus product of the WG.

Cheers,
Andy

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The following URL is a diff between=C2=A0draft-farrel-mpls= -sfc-04 and=C2=A0draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05, when section 6 was updated to ch= ange Segment Routing to =E2=80=9CLabel Stacking=E2=80=9D. (Note that the on= ly changes from draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05 to=C2=A0draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00 wer= e the name and date change).


If you examine the changes to section 6, it=E2=80=99s pretty clear (at le= ast to me) that the changes are really just cosmetic in nature, such as rem= oving a reference to draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing and changing a few t= erms here and there.=C2=A0

That, combined with the= fact that the MPLS WG had never discussed =E2=80=9CLabel Stacking=E2=80=9D= in a draft (never mind an RFC) prior to the introduction of Segment Routin= g leaves me to conclude that section 6 really does need to be removed in or= der to comply with the WG concerns about -04 and earlier revisions of draft= -farrel.

Thanks,
Andy

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Malis" Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 08:15:47 -0300 Message-ID: To: mpls@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e05e6a056b9bcb43" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] =?utf-8?q?Segment_Routing_vs=2E_=E2=80=9CLabel_Stacking?= =?utf-8?q?=E2=80=9D_in_draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00?= X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 11:16:21 -0000 --000000000000e05e6a056b9bcb43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just realized that I was a bit more terse in my email than I should have been. When I said that the MPLS WG had never discussed =E2=80=9CLabel Stack= ing=E2=80=9D, well of course we have the label stack, but we had never discussed, prior to Segment Routing, using the label stack as a method to do source routing via only popping labels, with no label swapping along the path. Cheers, Andy On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > The following URL is a diff between draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-04 > and draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05, when section 6 was updated to change Segmen= t > Routing to =E2=80=9CLabel Stacking=E2=80=9D. (Note that the only changes = from > draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05 to draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00 were the name and date > change). > > https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05.txt > > If you examine the changes to section 6, it=E2=80=99s pretty clear (at le= ast to > me) that the changes are really just cosmetic in nature, such as removing= a > reference to draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing and changing a few terms > here and there. > > That, combined with the fact that the MPLS WG had never discussed =E2=80= =9CLabel > Stacking=E2=80=9D in a draft (never mind an RFC) prior to the introductio= n of > Segment Routing leaves me to conclude that section 6 really does need to = be > removed in order to comply with the WG concerns about -04 and earlier > revisions of draft-farrel. > > Thanks, > Andy > > --000000000000e05e6a056b9bcb43 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just realized that I was a bit more terse in my email th= an I should have been. When I said that the MPLS WG had never discussed =E2= =80=9CLabel Stacking=E2=80=9D, well of course we have the label stack, but = we had never discussed, prior to Segment Routing, using the label stack as = a method to do source routing via only popping labels, with no label swappi= ng along the path.

Cheers,
Andy

=

On Mo= n, May 7, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
The following = URL is a diff between=C2=A0draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-04 and=C2=A0draft-far= rel-mpls-sfc-05, when section 6 was updated to change Segment Routing to = =E2=80=9CLabel Stacking=E2=80=9D. (Note that the only changes from draft-fa= rrel-mpls-sfc-05 to=C2=A0draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00 were the name and date chan= ge).


If you examine the changes to section 6, it=E2=80=99s pretty clear (a= t least to me) that the changes are really just cosmetic in nature, such as= removing a reference to draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing and changin= g a few terms here and there.=C2=A0

That, combined= with the fact that the MPLS WG had never discussed =E2=80=9CLabel Stacking= =E2=80=9D in a draft (never mind an RFC) prior to the introduction of Segme= nt Routing leaves me to conclude that section 6 really does need to be remo= ved in order to comply with the WG concerns about -04 and earlier revisions= of draft-farrel.

Thanks,
Andy


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I'm fine with progressing the new version. Thanks -m Le 2018-04-22 à 5:23, Dave Dolson a écrit : > Martin, > > Thank you for the careful review. > > My comments below are as an individual contributor. > > As an editor, I welcome feedback from the working group. > > -Dave > > > On 2018-04-10 6:11 AM, Martin Vigoureux wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have reviewed this document, thanks to all of you for putting it >> together. Please see my comments below. >> >> Thank you >> -m >> >> >> General: >> I am in two minds about this document and maybe because the document >> itself seems to not have clear intent. >> >> It is not clear whether this is simply describing what could be done >> or prescribing what should be done. I take the fact that this is an >> Informational document as leaning towards "description" but there are >> pieces of text which clearly look like prescriptive >> protocol/functional behaviour (although some are not detailed enough >> to allow for an implementation). >> >> I would really appreciate if the objective of this document could be >> clarified so that the reader knows what to expect. > As an original author, my intention was to show a network architecture > that allows SFC to scale. Hence it would be informational and optional. > We could make that explicit in the introduction and abstract. > >> >> Also, I am not advocating for making this a Standard Track document as >> I believe it would require a lot of rework but on the other hand I am >> not sure how much help it provides to the persons that would want to >> use the concept of hierarchy when deploying SFC in a large domain, nor >> to those that would need to implement it before that. You'll find >> specific comments below but that bigger question remains. >> >> Also, the Shepherd write-up does not seem to follow the template. >> Any reason for that? I'd prefer if it was re-written according to the >> template. Thanks. >> >> >> Specific: >> Header: >> please write the submission date in the correct format > Agreed. > >> >> 1. Introduction >>    Service Function Chaining (SFC) is a technique for prescribing >>    differentiated traffic forwarding policies within an SFC-enabled >>    domain. >> I am concerned by the fact that this document seems to give another >> definition to SFC. I'm not saying this is wrong but I'd be much more >> comfortable if it was simply saying: >> >>    The SFC architecture is described in detail in [RFC7665], and is not >>    repeated here. This document simply uses that architecture. >> >> >>    We assume that some Service Function Paths (SFPs) need to be selected >>    on the basis of application-specific data visible to the network >> What are the security implications of this assumption? Can we remove >> that? I think SFC has had it's share of security related discussions. > I think that can be changed to > > We assume that > some Service Function Paths (SFPs) need to be selected on the basis > of transport-layer coordinates. > >> >>    So instead of considering a single SFC Control Plane ([I-D.ietf- >>    sfc-control-plane]) >> I'd prefer not to reference a document which has been abandoned by the WG > I propose leaving the discussion of control plane, and just removing the > document references. > >> >>    Decomposing a network into multiple SFC-enabled domains should permit >>    end-to-end visibility of SFs and SFPs. >> Is that a wishful outcome or a requirement? > I'm not sure myself what that means. I think it can be removed. >> >>    The criteria for decomposing a domain into multiple SFC-enabled >>    sub-domains are beyond the scope of this document.  These criteria >>    are deployment-specific. >> While I understand this statement, it kind of defeats a good part of >> the purpose of the document, doesn't it? > I think the idea is that there are lots of ways one could divide > functions into different sub-domains. We don't want to tell the operator > why they would want to do different things, just explain the tools > available. Like explaining a programming language without trying to > explain all of the programs one could write... > >> >> >> 2.  Hierarchical Service Function Chaining (hSFC) >> >>    A hierarchy has multiple levels: the top-most level encompasses the >>    entire network domain to be managed, and lower levels encompass >>    portions of the network.  These levels are discussed in the following >>    sub-sections. >> Should it always be like that or is that just a way and there could be >> other ways? Can we have more-than-two-levels hierarchies or should >> they all be top-and-lower? > Should it always be like that? Hierarchical is optional, if that's what > you mean. > I think "multiple levels" means more than two are possible. > In a hierarchy the higher levels are more encompassing... I don't think > I understand your concern. > >> >> 2.1.  Top Level >> This section describes at length the figure/example but what are the >> take-aways? >> >>    Considering the example depicted in Figure 1, a top-level network >>    domain includes SFC data plane components distributed over a wide >>    area, including: >> >>    o  Classifiers (CFs), >>    o  Service Function Forwarders (SFFs) and >>    o  Sub-domains. >> Is that an illustrative way to partition the components (e.g., CFs and >> SFFs part of the top-level) or is that the recommended way? > There would need to be CFs and SFFs at each level. Maybe I miss your point. > >> >>    We expect the system to include a top-level control plane having >>    responsibility for configuring forwarding policies and traffic >>    classification rules (see for example, [I-D.ietf-sfc-control-plane]). >> again, I'd prefer not to reference this doc. More generally, is that >> needed? I don't think so. > We can remove the reference. > >> >> 2.2.  Lower Levels >> Same general comment than 2.1. Also, in this section you largely >> discuss the IBN, which is in fact only introduced after. > The IBN is introduced here, and explained in greater detail in a later > section. > >> >> 3.  Internal Boundary Node (IBN) >> This is the core of the proposal, in my opinion, but it comes very >> late in the document. If you don't want to rearchitect the whole >> document you should at least have some text (a sentence at bare >> minimum) early in the document that says something like : >>    we introduce the concept of an IBN which acts as the gateway between >>    the levels of the hierarchy. We also discuss the options for >>    realizing this function. > Thanks. I think we can add this to the introduction. >> >> 3.1.x >> Is there a recommended way of doing IBN Path Configuration out of the >> 5 listed? > We did not take any such conclusion. > >> >> >> 4.  Sub-domain Classifier >>    Another goal of the hierarchical approach is to simplify the >>    mechanisms of scaling in and scaling out SFs.  All of the >>    complexities of load-balancing among multiple SFs can be handled >>    within a sub-domain, under control of the classifier, allowing the >>    higher-level domain to be oblivious to the existence of multiple SF >>    instances. >> I don't see the simplification here. You hide the complexity to the >> higher level, but it remains in the lower one, doesn't it? > If there are multiple sub-domains, they can each be managed > independently, each dealing with a subset of the complexity. If the > deployment were flat, a single controller would have to manage scaling > of multiple clusters. > So it is simpler in the scope handled by each controller. > >> >> >> 9.1 >> Please remove: >>    Generic security considerations related to the control plane are >>    discussed in [I-D.ietf-sfc-control-plane].  These considerations >>    apply for both high-level and low-level domains. >> > OK >> >> >> Nits: >> s/NSH [RFC8300]  or a similar/NSH [RFC8300] or a similar/ > If you are complaining about the extra space, this is a function of the > XML-->TXT rendering. > The XML is "NSH or a similar" > >> >>    One path is shown from edge classifier to SFF1 to Sub-domain#1 >>    (residing in data-center1) to SFF1 to SFF2 (residing in data-center >>    2) to Sub-domain#2 to SFF2 to network egress. >> Shouldn't this text be taken out of the figure and integrated in the >> body of the doc? > OK >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sfc mailing list >> sfc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > From nobody Mon May 7 05:27:25 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92575127522; Mon, 7 May 2018 05:27:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152569604259.1382.6219932946702713041.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 05:27:22 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 12:27:23 -0000 The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. From nobody Mon May 7 05:27:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7625E12D958; Mon, 7 May 2018 05:27:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152569607848.1439.13053030504229319467.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 05:27:58 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 12:27:58 -0000 The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. From nobody Mon May 7 07:28:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A711205D3; Mon, 7 May 2018 07:28:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.79.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org, Behcet Sarikaya , sarikaya@ieee.org, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <152570332616.1387.3853888549862211430.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 07:28:46 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Last Call: (Hierarchical Service Function Chaining (hSFC)) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 14:28:46 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Service Function Chaining WG (sfc) to consider the following document: - 'Hierarchical Service Function Chaining (hSFC)' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2018-05-21. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract Hierarchical Service Function Chaining (hSFC) is a network architecture allowing an organization to decompose a large-scale network into multiple domains of administration. The goals of hSFC are to make a large-scale network easier to reason about, simpler to control and to support independent functional groups within large network operators. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. 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<152569607848.1439.13053030504229319467.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <152569607848.1439.13053030504229319467.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 11:18:06 -0400 Message-ID: To: IETF Secretariat Cc: draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org, sfc-chairs@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000459510056bb34cae" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 15:18:29 -0000 --000000000000459510056bb34cae Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support the adoption of this draft. Cheers, Andy On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:27 AM, IETF Secretariat < ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote: > > The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) > > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ > > Comment: > As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a > two > week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not > whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the > working group would like to advance. > > Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. > Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from > non-authors. > > Yours, > Joel (& Jim) > > PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with > separately. > That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > --000000000000459510056bb34cae Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of this draft.

C= heers,
Andy

=
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:27 AM, IETF Secreta= riat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:<= br>

The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/

Comment:
As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o
week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not
whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance.

Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors.

Yours,
Joel (& Jim)

PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .
That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.

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--000000000000459510056bb34cae-- From nobody Tue May 8 09:51:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449512EA64; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mGmeWE01JSyX; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DB5D12EA56; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:51:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1329; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1525798299; x=1527007899; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=4Fg7X7Srj/fLRENH2EaYXymijSC6xR2mbh26mnqIBxY=; b=kYlSkFDdAsALg28aJ282+2jdSE0ETExHOKwdp07eyobK4wDD1VrD+i4h 8zoake30m5jeuChPfTpPEZBuElOFpNaV5ARcTt6A7KDIWHzh7noEeiLxz sTJ+UYvHEsZOk6GIJQzFD2kErjmztAvgZ4JTLhJvF9tgVCc/fp3+4eTZ+ Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0C8CgD01PFa/4QNJK1cGQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQcBAQEBAYNDYXooCphbgXmBD5MogXgLGAuDSIEBAoJlITYWAQIBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQECbBwMhSgBAQEBAwEBGx00FwQCAQgRBAEBHwULJwsdCAIEARIIg0aBVg+?= =?us-ascii?q?pV4hDgkMFiCWCE4QagxEBAQMBgTmFdwKYKggChWOIYIE9g2CHTYlGhl8CERM?= =?us-ascii?q?BgSQBIw4jgVJwFTuCQ4JIiEiFPm+QO4EYAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.49,379,1520899200"; d="scan'208";a="392349322" Received: from alln-core-10.cisco.com ([173.36.13.132]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 May 2018 16:51:38 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-008.cisco.com (xch-aln-008.cisco.com [173.36.7.18]) by alln-core-10.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w48GpceU009920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 8 May 2018 16:51:38 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-009.cisco.com (173.37.102.19) by XCH-ALN-008.cisco.com (173.36.7.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Tue, 8 May 2018 11:51:37 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-009.cisco.com ([173.37.102.19]) by XCH-RCD-009.cisco.com ([173.37.102.19]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Tue, 8 May 2018 11:51:37 -0500 From: "Roberta Maglione (robmgl)" To: IETF Secretariat , "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" Thread-Index: AQHT5f7HuCUTvVi0FU2qwbr9T+q3q6QmDP5g Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:51:37 +0000 Message-ID: <6c757e073a3a470683e26c1034f44372@XCH-RCD-009.cisco.com> References: <152569604259.1382.6219932946702713041.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <152569604259.1382.6219932946702713041.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.61.213.236] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 16:51:43 -0000 I support the adoption of this draft as WG item. Roberta -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 2:27 PM To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.or= g Subject: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state = "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adopti= on By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not w= hether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the wo= rking group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from n= on-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .=20 That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Tue May 8 09:52:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8728212EA56; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:52:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dOYRlguTK1yz; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DCE12EA74; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:52:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1347; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1525798355; x=1527007955; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7hHPi4nSMOqVkU+zof1deuiHVs8N8/el/jYvRBFM3bQ=; b=hZDYRgmJq57TB4dqbtRs1dhoqyY9lKLTolJSGulIFACShKSnEYTr7JNz m+ypgjPSRCcwacp3PqmWOQeMAHbTTqBkC/UMDheCiiCZM96yupBpRBTNt 1X7Eqw1s+YA3nAFgRd8JjBPxfodoq9WHJJo2IRORI3EkasnlTdDaBqxhu M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0C8CgBq1fFa/4sNJK1cGQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQcBAQEBAYNDYXooCphbgXmBD5MogXgLGAuDSIEBAoJlITYWAQIBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQECbBwMhSgBAQEBAwEBGx00FwQCAQgRBAEBHwULJwsdCAIEARIIg0aBVg+?= =?us-ascii?q?pVYhDgkMFiCWCE4QagxEBAQMBgTmFdwKYKggChWOIYIE9g2CHTYlGhl8CERM?= =?us-ascii?q?BgSQBIw4jgVJwFTuCQ4JIiEiFPm+QO4EYAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.49,379,1520899200"; d="scan'208";a="390328758" Received: from alln-core-6.cisco.com ([173.36.13.139]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 May 2018 16:52:34 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-007.cisco.com (xch-aln-007.cisco.com [173.36.7.17]) by alln-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w48GqYF4032364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 8 May 2018 16:52:34 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-009.cisco.com (173.37.102.19) by XCH-ALN-007.cisco.com (173.36.7.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Tue, 8 May 2018 11:52:33 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-009.cisco.com ([173.37.102.19]) by XCH-RCD-009.cisco.com ([173.37.102.19]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Tue, 8 May 2018 11:52:33 -0500 From: "Roberta Maglione (robmgl)" To: IETF Secretariat , "draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org" , "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" Thread-Index: AQHT5f7cTDLNLaL7iEKrzA2KhGz4haQmDW0w Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:52:33 +0000 Message-ID: <125c9198f5634a3ca37e1fb29893bc77@XCH-RCD-009.cisco.com> References: <152569607848.1439.13053030504229319467.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <152569607848.1439.13053030504229319467.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.61.213.236] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 16:52:39 -0000 I support the adoption of this draft as WG item. Roberta -----Original Message----- From: sfc On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 2:28 PM To: draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org; sfc-chairs@ietf.org; sfc@iet= f.org Subject: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in st= ate "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call For Ad= option By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not w= hether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the wo= rking group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from n= on-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .=20 That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc From nobody Tue May 8 09:57:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABD612EA52; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:57:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DabkUYVT8siE; 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charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180508225822.C7ADCB81C54@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 15:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8393_on_Operating_the_Network_Service_Header_?= =?utf-8?q?=28NSH=29_with_Next_Protocol_=22None=22?= X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 22:58:37 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8393 Title: Operating the Network Service Header (NSH) with Next Protocol "None" Author: A. Farrel, J. Drake Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: May 2018 Mailbox: afarrel@juniper.net, jdrake@juniper.net Pages: 12 Characters: 27141 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-farrel-sfc-convent-06.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8393 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8393 This document describes a network that supports Service Function Chaining (SFC) using the Network Service Header (NSH) with no payload data and carrying only metadata. This is achieved by defining a new NSH "Next Protocol" type value of "None". This document illustrates some of the functions that may be achieved or enhanced by this mechanism, but it does not provide an exhaustive list of use cases, nor is it intended to be definitive about the functions it describes. It is expected that other documents will describe specific use cases in more detail and will define the protocol mechanics for each use case. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Wed May 9 14:42:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1605412DB6E for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:42:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=broadcom.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y2pxVF9DzuuC for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr0-x230.google.com (mail-wr0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 407A1129C6B for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x230.google.com with SMTP id p4-v6so27598wrh.3 for ; Wed, 09 May 2018 14:42:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yFnykrw2UnGSAv1RnNVXEd4ME+cpjhAazsWq9csej2g=; b=bKPbv6B1sWfJedMFhL1DrovGbhBe88DwE5GcnhwMNiL+oiGCYwoAmq7QCjiQclTirO syOAD3UqGAr9HEZM4oWDUt6eFHwQescJvNsEhC2V/5qr+9UyDBK28TZUg3BldHUCh04O K4QYcMmCuKw/0znA0BZVvCoFvEWvH+31E0OQ0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yFnykrw2UnGSAv1RnNVXEd4ME+cpjhAazsWq9csej2g=; b=Wk5EUKCjwFgX5fz5Aql5Xo5bIZBBwXvXaiGlRiqKU/bHEaBVyekDjy+Pc8cpESVPVb D4gf/pud5/6jw14BGdbaCR4gEKdhbls+I65TN31HYUzEt/tCN8nDYd5hKyB8JGVghnZD JVQwX4y7UF8q/c0dAAsFOCZQjyzvKJd1E3vQ6f963FywLC9EiaqZ/QRKBkHWzeqTkV33 E55Wmw+BFDeTy4q/aTORgbK8JvZjzWEDr/zySrCGwz28LiRB2NpgAWM2zJc+V2sCyIbr AMznA7edUdubZY0fZ0gG8Zu3wMyVSRy8iLRwRcKVHwlJTU5x9iccvPuOkB376HOKsy/e ZoTw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBB9co6qKQvpONmE6DKqcuSC3fVxRagi84kHY8JBYOTB4QJoNM9 9Kxuv1UKi08kc/c3/ED5AznuMi178Q2JQQQ9q8PKDg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZr6Sw1SsSO7E5VFnkSoD7ZkbGK3b684ifZ+HJdzn+q3wPUHSesJBlAg/y0CtWs41d4Pa2N3XSKJVArQp2rs5aE= X-Received: by 2002:adf:a9aa:: with SMTP id b39-v6mr38775168wrd.36.1525902162601; Wed, 09 May 2018 14:42:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.157.129 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:42:42 -0700 (PDT) From: John Lemon Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 14:42:42 -0700 Message-ID: To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org, Service Function Chaining IETF list , draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005d51a8056bccc8dc" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 21:42:48 -0000 --0000000000005d51a8056bccc8dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support the adoption of this draft. John -----Original Message----- From: sfc ; On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 2:28 PM To: draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org; sfc-chairs@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org Subject: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc --0000000000005d51a8056bccc8dc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I support the adoption of this draft.

John

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    From: sfc <sfc-bounces@ietf.org>; On Behalf Of IETF Secretar=
iat
    Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 2:28 PM
    To: draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org; sfc-chairs@=
ietf.org; =
sfc@ietf.org
    Subject: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit i=
n state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"


    The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call Fo=
r Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

    The document is available at
    https://datatracker.i=
etf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/

    Comment:
    As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is =
a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is n=
ot whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work th=
e working group would like to advance.

    Please speak up.  Silence is NOT consent.
    Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear fr=
om non-authors.

    Yours,
    Joel (& Jim)

    PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separa=
tely.
    That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.

    _______________________________________________
    sfc mailing list
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--0000000000005d51a8056bccc8dc-- From nobody Wed May 9 14:45:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AA012DB6E for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:45:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=broadcom.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Y0tS69OetSB for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3ED41129C51 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id f8-v6so904522wmc.4 for ; Wed, 09 May 2018 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bC3Dv09n3EKrWLmkomo2JhG+KuxYDzFISpL/g00TYyA=; b=eVOBpZ8ZWf0xc9oFGOidTcMKM9Ws4kk/K0C+uL6NswIwhpPD4LbjFOirqBLFvZyKid DF1jA6E2JCElggvxGD2VV+Xm3iLa7LGvIFiBxBLlrKbWcvYK0jgqOu9zqtFx7xr0S5M/ sovteFk1zEbGpmcIBLgt5ST5AiNG2Kq7tXW7c= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bC3Dv09n3EKrWLmkomo2JhG+KuxYDzFISpL/g00TYyA=; b=VPKiDSFR9/4WKfzLLqnhEdNc96U+dvnmlcZZvu7DvPfhcd8Reav5E2jiGiPnRH+w12 3ttN0cBhdAuYzGd4DTe3NcCHCTg0Rkb5SyS5zIFdr5Un6RHcd9w0KETy1T7pizKwEahz XXqn7AydEUBxMhCPcopI27qqIC1mG9cK2KYAtIArEct3YCgj09octxY7PSSiesVlCYoG TmOtBoYEAK2gPreJ8KM0ULDuoHDPp6EESwfMU6eTgAUt/xEBrIDKmQ1rSv8dKLPugCEQ /MyTjw9IqZQpOCxKoM7N/zNMTKtF0i+yDF+FECl62We2jXhgVMGHDKjRml8c78LFVpQo jOJg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdcTVwyARlJJM7oB0RNwWvCwbpgCpfFUuRC/SB1UcLMF0hRFJWM mnIj66p6gQ2niTBj2OB4TPDu/pwg10OqAIl2fG2J5xLaQTY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqcMMuEqbVqJCRaKqtdnVNW3LPMvYV7EScEzmfl23joV3LCp8L3JALUr+5u7JD+Dn/ea1fL90XcV92C7h+cEBU= X-Received: by 10.28.6.206 with SMTP id 197mr6500452wmg.159.1525902329754; Wed, 09 May 2018 14:45:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.157.129 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Lemon Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 14:45:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org, draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org, Service Function Chaining IETF list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1144437053e97b056bccd2c4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 21:45:33 -0000 --001a1144437053e97b056bccd2c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support the adoption of this draft. John -----Original Message----- From: IETF Secretariat ; Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27 To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available athttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. --001a1144437053e97b056bccd2c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
I support the adoption of this draft.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org><=
/a>;=20
Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27
To: sfc=
-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org;=
 sfc@ietf.org<=
/a>
Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "=
Call For Adoption By WG Issued"


The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adopti=
on By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/

Comment:
As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw=
o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not w=
hether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the wo=
rking group would like to advance.

Please speak up.  Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from n=
on-authors.

Yours,
Joel (& Jim)

PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately=
.=20
That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.
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protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha256; boundary="B_3608777893_859627685" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 00:48:21 -0000 --B_3608777893_859627685 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3608777884_1428575396" --B_3608777884_1428575396 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I support the adoption of this draft as SFC WG document, as a co-author. =20 Thanks, Shwetha On 5/7/18, 5:57 PM, "IETF Secretariat" wr= ote: =20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The document is available at =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Comment: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this = is a two =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is = not =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on wor= k the =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 working group would like to advance. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear= from =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 non-authors. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Yours, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Joel (& Jim) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with se= parately.=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the cha= irs. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =20 --B_3608777884_1428575396 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

I support the adoption of this draft as SFC WG document, as a= co-author.

 

Thanks,

Shwe= tha



On 5/7/18, 5:57 PM, "IETF Secretariat" <iet= f-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:

 

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entere= d by Joel Halpern)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The document is available at

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-= transit/

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Comment:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As discussed= in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two<= /p>

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 week call for adoption for this document. Remin= der: the question is not

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 whether thi= s is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 working group would like to advance.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Please= speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 non-authors.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Yours,<= /p>

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Joel (& Jim)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0PS: The issue of there b= eing too many authors will be dealt with separately.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance = to the chairs.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

 

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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I support the adoption of this draft as SFC WG document. -- Regards, Akshaya N On 5/7/18, 5:57 PM, "IETF Secretariat" ; wrote: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. --=-GlFaiMVAqT7ZJbOkNdRs Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I support the adoption of this draft as SFC WG document.

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On 5/7/18, 5:57 PM, "IETF Secretariat" <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>; wrote:

 

    

    The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state

    Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

    

    The document is available at

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/

    

    Comment:

    As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two

    week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not

    whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the

    working group would like to advance.

    

    Please speak up.  Silence is NOT consent.

    Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from

    non-authors.

    

    Yours,

    Joel (& Jim)

    

    PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. 

    That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.


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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also support adoption of this draft as WG document. -- Regards, Akshaya N -----Original Message----- From: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org , draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org , sfc@ietf.org Subject: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 07:34:25 +0000 Hello Chairs, As an implementer of IOAM drafts, I have read this draft and support the adoption call. Thanks Prasad -----Original Message----- From: IETF Secretariat Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27 To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc --=-quPxFAdZywdIATibI98r Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also support adoption of this draft  as WG document.

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Regards,
Akshaya N

-----Original Message-----
From: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) <venggovi@cisco.com>
To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org <sfc-chairs@ietf.org>, draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org <draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org>, sfc@ietf.org <sfc@ietf.org>
Subject: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 07:34:25 +0000

Hello Chairs,
As an implementer of IOAM drafts, I have read this draft and support the adoption call.
Thanks
Prasad


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Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"


The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/

Comment:
As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance.

Please speak up.  Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors.

Yours,
Joel (& Jim)

PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately. 
That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.
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"sfc-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" Thread-Index: AQHT5f7BdadBSfCggUqiO0Fx2+P9iKQvM0QA//+sfvCAAFVrAIAAdDgA Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 09:05:29 +0000 Message-ID: <860E8032-BC6D-4C55-8959-05B1FDF55CB8@cisco.com> References: <152569604259.1382.6219932946702713041.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9fbadde8b3c14cc4b85b5a2a1619ae33@XCH-RCD-008.cisco.com> <0b32e2694af44032b5b206059cf2ad72@XCH-RCD-020.cisco.com> <1526283562.3465.9.camel@akshay-ThinkPad-E460> In-Reply-To: <1526283562.3465.9.camel@akshay-ThinkPad-E460> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.1a.0.160910 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.196.84.54] Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha256; boundary="B_3609153325_1036351843" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 09:06:05 -0000 --B_3609153325_1036351843 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3609153320_983763353" --B_3609153320_983763353 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable As a co-author I support adoption of this draft. =20 Thanks, Shwetha =20 From: Akshaya Nadahalli Date: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:09 PM To: "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-= nsh@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh i= n state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" Resent-From: Resent-To: , Shwetha bhandari , , Carlos Pignataro , , , , , , Resent-Date: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:09 PM =20 I also support adoption of this draft as WG document. --=20 Regards, Akshaya N=20 -----Original Message----- From: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org , draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh= @ietf.org , sfc@ietf.org Subject: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in st= ate "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 07:34:25 +0000 Hello Chairs, As an implementer of IOAM drafts, I have read this draft and support the ad= option call. Thanks Prasad =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: IETF Secretariat =20 Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27 To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.or= g Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call = For Adoption By WG Issued" =20 =20 The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adopti= on By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) =20 The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ =20 Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not wh= ether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the work= ing group would like to advance. =20 Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from n= on-authors. =20 Yours, Joel (& Jim) =20 PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .=20 That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc --B_3609153320_983763353 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

As a co-author I support adoption of this draft.

 

Thanks,

Shwetha

=  

From: Akshaya Nadahalli <akshaya@rtbrick.com>
Date: Monday= , May 14, 2018 at 1:09 PM
To: "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" <= sfc-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org" &= lt;draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org>, "sfc@ietf.org" <s= fc@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft= -brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"<= br>Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
Resent-To: &= lt;fbrockne@cisco.com>, Shwetha bhandari <shwethab@cisco.com>, <= venggovi@cisco.com>, Carlos Pignataro <cpignata@cisco.com>, <han= nes@rtbrick.com>, <john_leddy@cable.comcast.com>, <stephen.youel= l@jpmorgan.com>, <talmi@marvell.com>, <mosesster@gmail.com>, = <petr@fb.com>
Resent-Date: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:09 PM

 

I also support adoption of = this draft  as WG document.

--
Regards,
Akshaya N

-----Original Message-----
Fro= m: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi) <venggovi@ci= sco.com>
To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org <sfc-chairs@ietf.org>= , draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org <d= raft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org>, sfc@ietf.org <sfc@ietf.org>
Subje= ct: [sfc] FW: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in stat= e "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
Date: Mon, 14 May 201= 8 07:34:25 +0000

Hello Chairs,
As an=
 implementer of IOAM drafts, I have read this draft and support the adoption=
 call.
Thanks
Prasad
 
 
-----Origina=
l Message-----
From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> =

Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27
T=
o: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@iet=
f.org; sfc@ietf.org
Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state &quo=
t;Call For Adoption By WG Issued"
 
 
The SFC WG has placed draft-brockner=
s-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halp=
ern)
 
The document is availa=
ble at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sf=
c-ioam-nsh/
 
Comment:
As discussed in London, and requested by the document aut=
hors, this is a two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the =
question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good star=
t on work the working group would like to advance.
 
Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to =
hear from non-authors.
 
Your=
s,
Joel (& Jim)
 
PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt wi=
th separately. 
That is not an obstacle to adoption, me=
rely an annoyance to the chairs.
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This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Service Function Chaining Use Cases in Mobile Networks Authors : Walter Haeffner Jeffrey Napper Martin Stiemerling Diego R. Lopez Jim Uttaro Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-use-case-mobility-08.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2018-05-14 Abstract: This document provides some exemplary use cases for service function chaining in mobile service provider networks. The objective of this draft is not to cover all conceivable service chains in detail. Rather, the intention is to localize and explain the application domain of service chaining within mobile networks as far as it is required to complement the SFC problem statement and architecture framework of the working group. Service function chains typically reside in a LAN segment which links the mobile access network to the actual application platforms located in the carrier's datacenters or somewhere else in the Internet. Service function chains (SFC) ensure a fair distribution of network resources according to agreed service policies, enhance the performance of service delivery or take care of security and privacy. SFCs may also include Value Added Services (VAS). Commonly, SFCs are typical middle box based services. General considerations and specific use cases are presented in this document to demonstrate the different technical requirements of these goals for service function chaining in mobile service provider networks. The specification of service function chaining for mobile networks must take into account an interaction between service function chains and the 3GPP Policy and Charging Control (PCC) environment. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-use-case-mobility/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sfc-use-case-mobility-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sfc-use-case-mobility-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sfc-use-case-mobility-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon May 14 15:08:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C9212E8D0 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=barefootnetworks.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZNgQga_z2pB for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr0-x22d.google.com (mail-wr0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B09D812E8CE for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id q3-v6so13890132wrj.6 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=barefootnetworks.com; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8NMkpHXq/CEt1fszXQFC2QW4F4sdriZ8XM1SkkEuThU=; b=ckS6XZIhZG/bHl4RSkF+9EE2wSPFsOqtcmeivM4/Ftg0qnbq9Z3Uwzmk1u8yr5SUBJ S6UcAIhH5knA/4hnpeXMU3C6BG4QzEYKTZD5xN247FkhP33zNom4NLsVKdovtcNzNyNi vFv3aXnoQhrf4AfgwiBaWv0toC+HkQD8VGssY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8NMkpHXq/CEt1fszXQFC2QW4F4sdriZ8XM1SkkEuThU=; b=ibsvlKuz3S2lpllDBgE1FayYn8sZ17ZQx0GMFdA6A+dKoWsFU7PFGcrjXZNCPi4Rlt RQ1w5zymIBidMpD359kNLmIGPkwmDHAk4vuXp2/7WzmHBHE01/lP6LI3mxlOx2eDY7QL qFpPow/y48GJ96WwwzzDb0rSg2dee6nAwnY6hr0S8zyttRWxEBmtjoorR6bC5pRASeMP mB39XBQKtERFctxGNP0G2ZsU/igo7CbPpQbAImv6ugayu/i61JcEMeSzQwqKnQsGnOxb VrF5p96MD+QEP8bH3X0yQNcTTj1zY/u5tB0Pb6KiTwA2bNAmITu27stNVjU3QQAWZyxI b96g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdSsaT+RwaZQwG3wv7z5IBSVCJiiFbFPGBn08T4RJ9RY6ie3M/o EG1Xd7inWjAjmza+6JvXbujucj6eehjkHW/vm+z9Qwcx0vE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqmmnxAmb4c741z9lgtZlwgM/OcNbQHawh7Qlpr0yinuDGVKcf0VrS2BT3wfmdaEQkUcF7CSrdG8ZlM7U94FTM= X-Received: by 2002:adf:86ac:: with SMTP id 41-v6mr8021889wrx.260.1526335705197; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.164.1 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mickey Spiegel Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 15:08:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: "sfc@ietf.org" Cc: "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000844330056c31b983" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 22:08:29 -0000 --000000000000844330056c31b983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support the adoption of this draft by the SFC working group. Mickey The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ > Comment: > As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a > two > week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not > whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the > working group would like to advance. > Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. > Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from > non-authors. > Yours, > Joel (& Jim) > PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with > separately. > That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. --000000000000844330056c31b983 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of this draft by the SFC working gr= oup.

Mickey

= The SFC WG has placed draft-bro= ckners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)
=C2=A0
The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/d= raft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/
=C2=A0
Comment:
As discussed in London, and reque= sted by the document authors, this is a two
week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: = the question is not
w= hether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the
working group would lik= e to advance.
=
=C2=A0
Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT co= nsent.
Given the long= list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from
non-authors.
=C2= =A0
Joel (& = Jim)
=C2=A0
PS: The issue of there being too many authors wil= l be dealt with separately.=C2=A0
That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to th= e chairs.

--000000000000844330056c31b983-- From nobody Mon May 14 15:14:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E8312E8D6 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=barefootnetworks.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kq2nnxw8EmTx for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA2AD12E8D3 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id f8-v6so17927350wmc.4 for ; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=barefootnetworks.com; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D8ErEOBowPovXT/1PZ5TUaYcoAsnNcqT1/fu80XzmeM=; b=NTULizISX5tYWtJGv2a7k5+ILA7O9kPGdL3MfkhA8DkJf/Fa2Zmr+lnt+6uBr8np7F /JpjjBPMSCrOYvli6c4YICpVVlS9o9dkJNxSFuapvTe/QESMr9+g29Gi23EgS/0D8eFd CkzYePo81UWhUt4N2P5n4e+9o1QqdqDWtSMVk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D8ErEOBowPovXT/1PZ5TUaYcoAsnNcqT1/fu80XzmeM=; b=lpHCSpsZo43izWhXoUEG7/k7Z2n8VBDe9CECc2JYseU2BdlYby+hK/4f2FPAUER272 z7h6TShztnz3OhvOPRseFr3L//bRSc6eZoRgkCOhQ4xevKa4b7ixK54IDm20JoTOmopt haiccXzhptvFgoPaPESfURb5S1RtHawF8GT06nCGnPU6gv5gkWjoklQTQPGTFVeIP+MZ MeXWjK3V8WUYPywaVt+cfqMgDHgrPzJvTTw+Q4vPrtD6d83kDLpM/NYTvfpRkt0gq0B5 Y0915M57MsXdWUYF9o95iEkk4PJ3VpKs+2BO7wLXuqTIGY5ZmbQ0zZSlWBRC44siZk0U cgfw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdLyO4sMrqp0bsSlWRU7S/PGrYx8G8qlbd7xN1CY0AE8NROP//1 VunWuY8cpZCW3VYsGk/NETqIOQtWVdRnmZP3lAaNTj5ZmaI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrnheLfYq2XsndyiHMv1RJc5Mg5Qn2PIUYl2Vc0xxDzJYR7RmML6BLQjvkft0L825Lec1DF/zQCHLHZ1YhlouY= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:a84d:: with SMTP id r74-v6mr6687337wme.114.1526336053364; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.164.1 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mickey Spiegel Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 15:14:13 -0700 Message-ID: To: "sfc@ietf.org" Cc: "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000044e0dd056c31ce7b" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 22:14:18 -0000 --00000000000044e0dd056c31ce7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support the adoption of this draft by the SFC working group. Mickey The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state > > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) > > > The document is available at > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-transit/ > > > Comment: > > As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a > two > > week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not > > whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the > > working group would like to advance. > > > Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. > > Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from > > non-authors. > > > Yours, > > Joel (& Jim) > > > PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with > separately. > > That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. > --00000000000044e0dd056c31ce7b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of this draft by the SFC working gr= oup.

Mickey

=

The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state

Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)


The document is available at

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-proof-of-t= ransit/


Comment:

As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, th= is is a two

week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question = is not

whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on = work the

working group would like to advance.


Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent.

Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to h= ear from

non-authors.


Yours,

Joel (& Jim)


PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with = separately.=C2=A0

That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the c= hairs.



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On Monday, May 7, 2018, 5:27:31 AM PDT, IETF Secretariat wrote: =20 =20 =20 The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh/ Comment: As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the working group would like to advance. Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent. Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from non-authors. Yours, Joel (& Jim) PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .=20 That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc =20 ------=_Part_1303002_1857609245.1526366630634 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Support.

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On Monday, May 7, 2018, 5:27:31 AM PDT, IETF Secret= ariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:



The SF= C WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

The document is available at

Comment:
As discussed in London, and req= uested by the document authors, this is a two
wee= k call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not
whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good= start on work the
working group would like to ad= vance.

Please speak up= .  Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long li= st of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from
non-authors.

= Yours,
Joel (& Jim)

PS: The issue of there being too many authors w= ill be dealt with separately.
That is not an obs= tacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.

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------=_Part_1303002_1857609245.1526366630634-- From nobody Mon May 14 23:59:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB8112D778; Mon, 14 May 2018 23:59:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.709 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.709 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HNQ5bwRYh_tY; Mon, 14 May 2018 23:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x235.google.com (mail-wm0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A70E1200A0; Mon, 14 May 2018 23:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id f6-v6so17410533wmc.4; Mon, 14 May 2018 23:59:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pGa6diwJhvpOxFz4jhguVuqzqTi3x335Fk76RLzUba8=; b=HFRExdfaZ0+8fwiZaFWWgEFCC5aGw77GlxI++YMKD0++YevzHnK9ogDDJS0JHV5RpS TZQkJo3z8qG/qNS/mqCDhEIzzhW85Qton0P+s/ohXVJSnmJY9tqdOcBSqMmJk/w62p91 EjEYnuGyLaFYJlefYzqGKCf1FXpHB67hNFwJVF8oFqQhXsQCzp8x3RMV0Ttn88zMRGIS RD7Zwghv/hT1vp5bf21V7C70KMwL2JZglb0g5IAEybnMMc9vZtfvGlbhQ+lzJlDyQazq rK1BWIgZ9aBGEu3fStUJeEZ40XynGUUAWaLazOWGlgRCo5YHjAkhJh5buSu4Dk489ICs wRWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pGa6diwJhvpOxFz4jhguVuqzqTi3x335Fk76RLzUba8=; b=kvbji3fWn9XxfpyUIhglxw1QVtaBBk38Hw2k1vod6b0a+beHbo4Q/Ua54HQ9i4aKBK 1ZHuVlbNGP7G9x2QhzG1MQXyd3XXEn+MA/+ZxjaDluu73/BC1BkkM/Fh0H+koOLt/mTE m+yrS8xrAMnKUMAdWkldmz3DJGd477S0Dgz6MvU31+QtSy5zBE3bvtDUXJJv55TTgPbE DHC7Si5PHj67yMk+R08RkjaZZfX5a2SRtIbdBDoL92Z0BttjqxNz38MpFlW8k+e/dKQf Mi5+UEl3u5juK5rkgk2lPf+cTAQp8fl4MlDghHSjUktVivdI2hTE0r3zhxzUPdCINg/u mE6g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwfTqOtBCSgtpOeLkYBora3TF+5IDQy+Jkpx420uscFSHA0bT86L ZGdqUg2yU1IKgIZeIWNl7Km9gDG5IgctE1w0Z14= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZowHSoEKlIgrAD8gCrkgByzXCdpUVyKjNWqxN/4LP/aPDWE5uZpyT1fY/ZORUpjcQwFUMVTicgLHcWQ49uoV5o= X-Received: by 2002:a50:b797:: with SMTP id h23-v6mr16110232ede.96.1526367587744; Mon, 14 May 2018 23:59:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.169.227 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2018 23:59:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <152569604259.1382.6219932946702713041.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Tal Mizrahi Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 09:59:47 +0300 Message-ID: To: Aviv Kfir Cc: "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org" , "sfc@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000dd3e63056c392546" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 06:59:52 -0000 --000000000000dd3e63056c392546 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" +1, as a co-author. Cheers, Tal. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Aviv Kfir wrote: > Support ! > > Regards, > Aviv > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IETF Secretariat > Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27 > To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh@ietf.org; > sfc@ietf.org > Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state "Call > For Adoption By WG Issued" > > > The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For > Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) > > The document is available at > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft- > brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cavivk%40mellanox.com% > 7Cee5afa7cacb540c70c1308d5b994bdcb%7Ca652971c7d2e4d9ba6a4d149256f > 461b%7C0%7C0%7C636618970863301085&sdata=lUluSAlwcYHhbtzAcn5%2BLXM9EU% > 2BuE67Do1NU3Ll0G4I%3D&reserved=0 > > Comment: > As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a > two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not > whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the > working group would like to advance. > > Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. > Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from > non-authors. > > Yours, > Joel (& Jim) > > PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with > separately. > That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > --000000000000dd3e63056c392546 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1, as a co-author.

Cheers,
T= al.

On= Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Aviv Kfir <avivk@mellanox.com> wrote:
Support !

Regards,
Aviv


-----Original Message-----
From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:27
To: sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-= nsh@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org
Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-= ioam-nsh in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"


The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh in state Call For Adopti= on By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

The document is available at
https://emea01.safelinks.protection.= outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdra= ft-brockners-sfc-ioam-nsh%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7Cavivk%40me= llanox.com%7Cee5afa7cacb540c70c1308d5b994bdcb%7Ca652971c7d2e= 4d9ba6a4d149256f461b%7C0%7C0%7C636618970863301085&sdata=3DlUluSAlwcYHhbtzAcn5%2BLXM9EU%2BuE67Do1NU3Ll0G4I%3D&reserved= =3D0

Comment:
As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not w= hether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the wo= rking group would like to advance.

Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from n= on-authors.

Yours,
Joel (& Jim)

PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .
That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.
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Cheers, Tal. On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Aviv Kfir wrote: > Support ! > > Regards, > Aviv > > -----Original Message----- > From: IETF Secretariat > Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:28 > To: draft-brockners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org; sfc-chairs@ietf.org; > sfc@ietf.org > Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state > "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" > > > The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call For > Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern) > > The document is available at > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft- > brockners-proof-of-transit%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cavivk%40mellanox.com% > 7C15c2a4d0e17346b3dfc708d5b994c226%7Ca652971c7d2e4d9ba6a4d149256f > 461b%7C0%7C0%7C636618970919698641&sdata=WdBM0Lf7d% > 2FR0aHeNQEzvV4ijcLN8QMvM%2B7hxpzGtbwc%3D&reserved=0 > > Comment: > As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a > two week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not > whether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the > working group would like to advance. > > Please speak up. Silence is NOT consent. > Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from > non-authors. > > Yours, > Joel (& Jim) > > PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with > separately. > That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs. > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > --000000000000a76fa9056c392712 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+1, as a co-author.

Cheers,<= /div>
Tal.


On Tue,= May 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Aviv Kfir <avivk@mellanox.com> wr= ote:
Support !

Regards,
Aviv

-----Original Message-----
From: IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
Sent: Montag, 7. Mai 2018 14:28
To: draft-broc= kners-proof-of-transit@ietf.org; sfc-chairs@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org=
Subject: The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proo= f-of-transit in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"


The SFC WG has placed draft-brockners-proof-of-transit in state Call F= or Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Joel Halpern)

The document is available at
https://emea01.safelinks.protectio= n.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fd= raft-brockners-proof-of-transit%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7Cavivk%40mellanox.com%7C15c2a4d0e17346b3dfc708d5b994c226%7Ca65297= 1c7d2e4d9ba6a4d149256f461b%7C0%7C0%7C636618970919698641&sdata= =3DWdBM0Lf7d%2FR0aHeNQEzvV4ijcLN8QMvM%2B7hxpzGtbwc%3D&re= served=3D0

Comment:
As discussed in London, and requested by the document authors, this is a tw= o week call for adoption for this document. Reminder: the question is not w= hether this is done, but rather whether this is a good start on work the wo= rking group would like to advance.

Please speak up.=C2=A0 Silence is NOT consent.
Given the long list of authors, the chairs particularly need to hear from n= on-authors.

Yours,
Joel (& Jim)

PS: The issue of there being too many authors will be dealt with separately= .
That is not an obstacle to adoption, merely an annoyance to the chairs.
_______________________________________________
sfc mailing list
sfc@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc

--000000000000a76fa9056c392712-- From nobody Tue May 15 01:38:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211F112D77A; Tue, 15 May 2018 01:38:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EqImVd1PVq1h; Tue, 15 May 2018 01:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23079120721; Tue, 15 May 2018 01:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (c83-250-142-104.bredband.comhem.se [83.250.142.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 602D81801510; Tue, 15 May 2018 10:38:28 +0200 (CEST) To: "Andrew G. Malis" , mpls@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org References: From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 10:38:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] =?utf-8?q?=5Bmpls=5D_Segment_Routing_vs=2E_=E2=80=9CLabel_?= =?utf-8?q?Stacking=E2=80=9D_in_draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00?= X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 08:38:34 -0000 >chair-hat off> Andy, Inlime please. On 2018-05-07 13:15, Andrew G. Malis wrote: > I just realized that I was a bit more terse in my email than I should > have been. When I said that the MPLS WG had never discussed “Label > Stacking”, well of course we have the label stack, but we had never > discussed, prior to Segment Routing, using the label stack as a method > to do source routing via only popping labels, with no label swapping > along the path. I think that this would be an argument if POP'n'go == SR but an entirely different case if POP'n'go > SR I think we can see from the uses case proposed by the authors of draft-ietf-mpls-sfc there are a lot of additional things for POP'n'go, and that it motivates its place in an MPLS wg draft. Please send comments on Adrian mail with proposed changes. /Loa > > Cheers, > Andy > > > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Andrew G. Malis > wrote: > > The following URL is a diff between draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-04 > and draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05, when section 6 was updated to change > Segment Routing to “Label Stacking”. (Note that the only changes > from draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05 to draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-00 were the > name and date change). > > https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-farrel-mpls-sfc-05.txt > > > If you examine the changes to section 6, it’s pretty clear (at least > to me) that the changes are really just cosmetic in nature, such as > removing a reference to draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing and > changing a few terms here and there. > > That, combined with the fact that the MPLS WG had never discussed > “Label Stacking” in a draft (never mind an RFC) prior to the > introduction of Segment Routing leaves me to conclude that section 6 > really does need to be removed in order to comply with the WG > concerns about -04 and earlier revisions of draft-farrel. > > Thanks, > Andy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed May 16 22:44:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B7B12E8D0; Wed, 16 May 2018 22:44:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com, sfc-chairs@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.80.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152653584705.7593.3882941487654556569.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 22:44:07 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] sfc - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 102 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 05:44:07 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Tal Mizrahi, a Secretary of the sfc working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Service Function Chaining Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Tal Mizrahi Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 120 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: bess idr i2nsf ippm mpls nvo3 spring rtgwg lisp ntp teas People who must be present: Joel M. 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Halpern" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 08:58:32 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <152653584705.7593.3882941487654556569.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sfc] sfc - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 102 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 12:58:58 -0000 Below is the session request we have submitted for the upcoming IETF. If we missed a significant conflict, please let us know. (Note that we and the IESG prefer to keep the conflict list small, as large lists make scheduling impossible. Yes, we all find ourselves needing to be in two places at once sometimes.) Yours, Joel On 5/17/18 1:44 AM, IETF Meeting Session Request Tool wrote: > > > A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Tal Mizrahi, a Secretary of the sfc working group. > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Working Group Name: Service Function Chaining > Area Name: Routing Area > Session Requester: Tal Mizrahi > > Number of Sessions: 1 > Length of Session(s): 2 Hours > Number of Attendees: 120 > Conflicts to Avoid: > First Priority: bess idr i2nsf ippm mpls nvo3 spring rtgwg lisp ntp teas > > > > > People who must be present: > Joel M. Halpern > Jim Guichard > Martin Vigoureux > Tal Mizrahi > > Resources Requested: > > Special Requests: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > From nobody Mon May 21 15:17:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C1212D88E; Mon, 21 May 2018 15:17:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ines Robles To: Cc: draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.80.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152694106121.7908.13286903159935171274@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 15:17:41 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical-08 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 22:17:42 -0000 Reviewer: Ines Robles Review result: Has Issues Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical-08 Reviewer: Ines Robles Review Date: 05-21-2018 Intended status: Informational Summary: I believe the draft is technically good. This document is well written and clear to understand. The figures are clear and helpful. The draft presents some minor issues that I think should be resolved before publication. Comments: Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: - It would be nice to add a terminology section that references section 1.4 of rfc7665, section 1.3 of rfc8300 (since you are using NSH-aware defined there) and add definitions such as IBN. - Question: about this sentence in pag. 3: "...The "domains" discussed in this document are assumed to be under the control of a single organization...". Is it the same if we say "...The "SFC-Enabled Domains" discussed in this document are assumed to be under the control of a single organization ..."? Nits: -- It would be nice to expand NSH in the Introduction section. -- In Figure 1, it would be nice to add a number to the Classifiers, e.g.CF#1, then when you mention that in the text you can reference it, e.g. "One path is shown from edge classifier (CF#1) to SFF1 to Sub-domain#1..." -- In Figure 6, it would be nice to add in the legend section the meaning for DPI. Thanks, Ines. From nobody Tue May 22 03:00:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE3912EAD0; Tue, 22 May 2018 03:00:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fwm-HiYgOE3w; Tue, 22 May 2018 03:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5B95126B72; Tue, 22 May 2018 03:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 1AB21B82BAD; Tue, 22 May 2018 03:00:39 -0700 (PDT) To: yanliuzhangyan@163.com, paulq@cisco.com, tnadeau@lucidvision.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, iesg@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180522100039.1AB21B82BAD@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 03:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] [Errata Rejected] RFC7498 (5336) X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 10:00:52 -0000 The following errata report has been rejected for RFC7498, "Problem Statement for Service Function Chaining". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5336 -------------------------------------- Status: Rejected Type: Technical Reported by: Boyuan Yan Date Reported: 2018-04-26 Rejected by: Martin Vigoureux (IESG) Section: 3.3 Original Text ------------- The SFC encapsulation also carries data-plane metadata that provides the ability to exchange information between logical classification points and service functions (and vice versa) and between service functions. Metadata is not used as forwarding information to deliver packets along the service overlay. Corrected Text -------------- The SFC encapsulation also carries data-plane metadata that provides the ability to exchange information between logical classification points and service functions (and vice versa) and between service functions. Metadata is used as forwarding information to deliver packets along the service overlay. Notes ----- Error occurs in the last sentence of 2nd paragraph in Section 3.3. Metadata should be used as forwarding information to deliver packets along the service overlay. --VERIFIER NOTES-- SFC Path identification is not part of the metadata. -------------------------------------- RFC7498 (draft-ietf-sfc-problem-statement-13) -------------------------------------- Title : Problem Statement for Service Function Chaining Publication Date : April 2015 Author(s) : P. Quinn, Ed., T. Nadeau, Ed. 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Malis" Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 15:52:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: draft-ietf-mpls-sfc@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000041e558056ce4e005" Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Comments on draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-01 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 19:52:41 -0000 --00000000000041e558056ce4e005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian et al, I just had a chance to review draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-01 in detail, and have a few comments. First of all, thanks for including the section 4.5 text. That said, I=E2=80=99m having a hard time distinguishing between using MPLS= -SR for SFC and the =E2=80=9Cmicro chains=E2=80=9D discussed in section 4.4. I agre= e that the =E2=80=9Cmicro chains" are a logical extreme of section 4.2, but that said,= section 4.2 does include swapping as well as popping, while section 4.4 is pure popping. It would be greatly appreciated if you could add text that differentiates =E2=80=9Cmicro chains=E2=80=9D from MPLS-SR, otherwise it=E2= =80=99s just a different name for the same functionality. If there is actually is no difference, then section 4.4 should be removed. I also have a comment in section 12. The text currently says "It should be noted that the MPLS encoding is slightly less functional than the direct use of the NSH.=E2=80=9D In this case, =E2=80=9Cslightly=E2=80=9D is a judg= ement for the reader to make, and I see a huge loss of functionality because there=E2=80=99s no sup= port for per-packet metadata. Please remove the word =E2=80=9Cslightly=E2=80=9D in t= his text. Without the word =E2=80=9Cslightly=E2=80=9D, the text changes from an opini= on to a fact. Thanks, Andy --00000000000041e558056ce4e005 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Adrian et al,

I just had a chance to re= view draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-01 in detail, and have a few comments.
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First of all, thanks for including the section 4.5 text.

That said, I=E2=80=99m having a hard time distinguishi= ng between using MPLS-SR for SFC and the =E2=80=9Cmicro chains=E2=80=9D dis= cussed in section 4.4. I agree that the =E2=80=9Cmicro chains" are a l= ogical extreme of section 4.2, but that said, section 4.2 does include swap= ping as well as popping, while section 4.4 is pure popping. It would be gre= atly appreciated if you could add text that differentiates =E2=80=9Cmicro c= hains=E2=80=9D from MPLS-SR, otherwise it=E2=80=99s just a different name f= or the same functionality. If there is actually is no difference, then sect= ion 4.4 should be removed.

I also have a comment i= n section 12. The text currently says "It should be noted that the MPL= S encoding is slightly less functional than the direct use of the NSH.=E2= =80=9D In this case, =E2=80=9Cslightly=E2=80=9D is a judgement for the read= er to make, and I see a huge loss of functionality because there=E2=80=99s = no support for per-packet metadata. Please remove the word =E2=80=9Cslightl= y=E2=80=9D in this text. Without the word =E2=80=9Cslightly=E2=80=9D, the t= ext changes from an opinion to a fact.

Thanks,
Andy

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sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6231512E050; Tue, 29 May 2018 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Sean Turner To: Cc: draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152760355124.12572.4328281075629737814@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 07:19:11 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-sfc-hierarchical-08 X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 14:19:12 -0000 Reviewer: Sean Turner Review result: Ready Hi! I’m no expert on SFC so I spent some time reviewing RFC7665 and Simon Josefsson’s secdir review [0] as well as RFC 8300 and 8393. It looks like all the things I was going to pick on are addressed by the references. I’ll let somebody else on the IESG debate whether Figure 4 is trying to be a little different than the rest of this architectural document by specify some protocols bits; informational still? 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, X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 14:53:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : NSH Encapsulation for In-situ OAM Data Authors : Frank Brockners Shwetha Bhandari Vengada Prasad Govindan Carlos Pignataro Hannes Gredler John Leddy Stephen Youell Tal Mizrahi David Mozes Petr Lapukhov Remy Chang Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-ioam-nsh-00.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2018-05-31 Abstract: In-situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) records operational and telemetry information in the packet while the packet traverses a path between two points in the network. This document outlines how IOAM data fields are encapsulated in the Network Service Header (NSH). 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu May 31 08:04:59 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sfc@ietf.org Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A8912EAA1; Thu, 31 May 2018 08:04:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: sfc@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152777908857.22714.8205778603822822443@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 08:04:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sfc] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sfc-proof-of-transit-00.txt X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Network Service Chaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 15:04:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Service Function Chaining WG of the IETF. Title : Proof of Transit Authors : Frank Brockners Shwetha Bhandari Sashank Dara Carlos Pignataro John Leddy Stephen Youell David Mozes Tal Mizrahi Filename : draft-ietf-sfc-proof-of-transit-00.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2018-05-31 Abstract: Several technologies such as Traffic Engineering (TE), Service Function Chaining (SFC), and policy based routing are used to steer traffic through a specific, user-defined path. This document defines mechanisms to securely prove that traffic transited said defined path. These mechanisms allow to securely verify whether, within a given path, all packets traversed all the nodes that they are supposed to visit. 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