From nobody Wed Sep 5 13:59:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sidr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF69F130DCC; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gspU2myZxqku; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7457C127332; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x230.google.com with SMTP id c190-v6so16373670oig.6; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e5LDNNZXC6lvr7ukZcYNuwqYif2LrHsNkVgdQEg9Fh0=; b=HZZUrCPMtsmR4ZP+Dl7bNlfoWj1c/1EbRlYZ10pnZKaDs/KMz/BRWsQZYW3TR8PJqP SGh8o3yXpTAdDLzNpmGc447MzPFaCDFutJZH4qEgiU0C9D/9XvgbkXlliIoDyjxmZUz8 nfCajcztc7PYd4TQ3NLlLQNE7Rc5T1Azcra9dWcAs3Jekm9Pif4aHQigSOW6z9wsTTlX fDgHHK5e4lJTlgqnWkZQBg3amVlAlaOeb8BKGyMmfxjETwgb+itexOv96+KDTAYqBdai 4PhEd2kb+e8J5wsphBITCfxdKwZKL/2LbAjDbb8Fo7M2Ey5xKE/9nohby7MDwOWMGEv1 EoXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e5LDNNZXC6lvr7ukZcYNuwqYif2LrHsNkVgdQEg9Fh0=; b=hsXSZ4JZyrB/Y4GAM2gyKfdw/+giPe6WI+uCf2WNhYWEhYz1SuYBRNl6vB+G87ktDb v3y9maiYfIxbDwafW5Oi5hFHYg/qoqFj0xcx278O4PgpZnDBp3G43ddHHXgL53COUcRS pvljCXsfdfdDJoDuXHDu23b+FTMKr3MsVlqLsa+SfUMfQmB0Q2G3cj4QVgoh5KIJJniV /YUJuDItzPhMyR/pNJBasximeMV++9h35Kii09GdlvBMjmggP260sijKwFirJEvtSYpY kXbJVWiFVF5+wkRBBU/2i1LMjAdXULzX0aTjfMdhMvSPCg1Z7OGcvMknZbTzweeqUxQ2 jFJw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51AePN2TiKYTYHLefXd14bUznn2KqO/CelK1jSTPWwZ+zsKNO8M6 4nID8K1YInRUJqAK+y3mlaBraaZXwK9d0fwyTZFqYg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdY8i+TSq+AZbMDKUa/+du1h4fSOsnOtYdfBOyEUj7Z+aG4QmnUaYasURUQBqWd+nRQTm9S2OILHmIf2Zoq7l+g= X-Received: by 2002:aca:c0c1:: with SMTP id q184-v6mr32714069oif.61.1536181177774; Wed, 05 Sep 2018 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 1058052472880 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:59:36 -0700 From: Alvaro Retana X-Mailer: Airmail (506) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:59:36 -0700 Message-ID: To: sidr Cc: sidr chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006978df0575260daf" Archived-At: Subject: [sidr] Closing the sidr WG X-BeenThere: sidr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Interdomain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 20:59:41 -0000 --0000000000006978df0575260daf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear sidr WG: We started the discussion about the future of the WG right before IETF 95; since then, the WG agreed on a path forward, the brand new sidrops WG was chartered (and is very close to publishing its first RFC), the migration plan to it has been executed, and 15 RFCs have been published (for a total of 41 over the life of the WG). Thank you for all the work! It is now time to close the WG. Given that we still see (as recently as a couple of weeks ago) questions to the WG list, I will keep it open =E2=80=94 and will ask for forwarding of t= he messages to sidrops to avoid any lost conversations. While I know that many of you have played an important role in fulfilling the WG charter, I want to highlight the work of the Chairs in shepherding the work forward. Thank you Sandy and Chris!! I also want to thank all the authors, editors, contributors and reviewers for getting the specifications written, for the multiple discussions=E2=80=A6for getting th= e work done! Alvaro. --0000000000006978df0575260daf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =
Dear sidr WG:

We started the discussion about the future of the WG rig= ht before IETF 95; since then, the WG agreed on a path forward, the brand n= ew sidrops WG was chartered (and is very close to publishing its first RFC)= , the migration plan to it has been executed, and 15 RFCs have been publish= ed (for a total of 41 over the life of the WG).=C2=A0 Thank you for all the= work!

It is now time= to close the WG.

Giv= en that we still see (as recently as a couple of weeks ago) questions to th= e WG list, I will keep it open =E2=80=94 and will ask for forwarding of the= messages to sidrops to avoid any lost conversations.

While I know that many of you have played = an important role in fulfilling the WG charter, I want to highlight the wor= k of the Chairs in shepherding the work forward.=C2=A0 Thank you Sandy and = Chris!! =C2=A0 I also want to thank all the authors, editors, contributors = and reviewers for getting the specifications written, for the multiple disc= ussions=E2=80=A6for getting the work done!

Alvaro.



--0000000000006978df0575260daf-- From nobody Thu Sep 6 09:48:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidr@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDD4130EBB; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:48:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF Announcement List" Cc: morrowc@ops-netman.net, sandy@tislabs.com, sidr@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.83.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Message-ID: <153625251493.11690.11346467464674205986.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:48:34 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [sidr] WG Action: Conclusion of Secure Inter-Domain Routing (sidr) X-BeenThere: sidr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Secure Interdomain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 16:48:35 -0000 The Secure Inter-Domain Routing (sidr) WG in the Routing Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Deborah Brungard and Martin Vigoureux. Many thanks to Chris Morrow and Sandy Murphy for their service as WG Chairs. The mailing list will remain active. From nobody Tue Sep 18 23:17:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sidr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6174912008A; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:17:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X9wPello6wvY; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk1-xa33.google.com (mail-vk1-xa33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFC39130DD1; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa33.google.com with SMTP id b78-v6so898006vka.12; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:17:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e43OY6ZQ8S5p2EB4WTxI3etJAI9xRkU8oUAuFZlV8AI=; b=e6zVzY5exzL8tPNgh4TxHkwZawy5i2qtz8a6c2kvyKYOhK36aAYZfaGLsef1bCJHYM RYZ/Gz1mdCCbOhUpcYSC+iG8ebCKlEO1pEzvvUasna1SlJ/fCkxBlTrz4J2g8Dta69Hw dQ/MuoeAkI/mn56hScAjFOsLc31UIujrZXN5SK1On7W3GzZe4Ihk43PJvJjNx/hdHYtW 0++eZtSuj8BXNf3otPWvGQx0yFYU6oNQ8CGw8DVSU0Roc6zsYdVWKDl6PhSJxddJS1td 6QSpmkM7g+3ODuAjrsZgV/8/P1Luh9UmAnQDPluQoVpXlzSg1sNN+tnP3c+oBouIuYaK 2WOg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e43OY6ZQ8S5p2EB4WTxI3etJAI9xRkU8oUAuFZlV8AI=; b=i1p4TImY8YzyF+uINgecQpRYy8gFn0+2uwvZ5VVaeLGcWICc4pCATBXvFIdPZDwV54 NcNvYXJoYmeXc6Q6jfP7Zz0NrFgXm1vKDB5T69tSKgQTVwlC5xnAR4PF8vM+EK/T3lul lErPW/eNXIw5TqG4swQ+by8u8H2NJxHSE3MJmvHDAw3ErlYQVgPPSOZzqzOH2DeMM73k PHtbFX7GilJkwjL9NjBdYeOLXlgKYRKPiWP5rHD0VIDXl4KIo+myLXqiIKZwnxpxxv9w Vy+X1dNJOWD9PpEnBosSKs21eecvq6wLCFPrgBOiXJ8xu/VYuUpoXWoEXyxH+/xBFqqY tTLA== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51AuZTXSR/1AFVqMnirB+6J9SqpPAJUlm7P7pnFhGhSMcscGmYbE bD1xEqpndlcHfn9pY3kW/wEkBma5zE/trgnC/vAorQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZvlYduyu27N3RRhvSJ45rRhzPHck78zP/On/PrYurJomyXGfH3fz6TXMoP3fGAgu9RcC8Fk04fgUi/bnDbyes= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:7c07:: with SMTP id x7-v6mr8385020vkc.52.1537337844698; Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:17:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <153565372581.3144.14852530580888223510@ietfa.amsl.com> <79C7E169-D962-4328-84DD-C668DD3AA1D1@sn3rd.com> In-Reply-To: <79C7E169-D962-4328-84DD-C668DD3AA1D1@sn3rd.com> From: Christopher Morrow Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 23:17:08 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sean Turner , sidrops@ietf.org, sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops-ads@ietf.org Cc: sidr@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002212f50576335cf0" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16.txt X-BeenThere: sidr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Interdomain Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:17:29 -0000 --0000000000002212f50576335cf0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Howdy sidrops folks, this document was left hanging in SIDR, it probably was better fit to sidr-ops, so let's get Sean to re-spin a re-named document, auto-adopt that and chat up any changes/etc between now and 'meeting time' ? Ideally we can turn around after the meeting breaks and WGLC this document in SIDROPS, unless changes are requested (of course!) :) thanks! -chris On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:30 AM Sean Turner wrote: > This version I believes addresses the two outstanding issues Sandy raised > during her review. > > spt > > > On Aug 30, 2018, at 14:28, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing WG of the > IETF. > > > > Title : Router Keying for BGPsec > > Authors : Randy Bush > > Sean Turner > > Keyur Patel > > Filename : draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16.txt > > Pages : 18 > > Date : 2018-08-30 > > > > Abstract: > > BGPsec-speaking routers are provisioned with private keys in order to > > sign BGPsec announcements. The corresponding public keys are > > published in the global Resource Public Key Infrastructure, enabling > > verification of BGPsec messages. This document describes two methods > > of generating the public-private key-pairs: router-driven and > > operator-driven. > > > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > I-D-Announce mailing list > > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > _______________________________________________ > sidr mailing list > sidr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr > --0000000000002212f50576335cf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy sidrops folks, this document was left hanging in SID= R, it probably was better fit to sidr-ops, so let's get Sean to re-spin= a re-named document, auto-adopt that and chat up any changes/etc between n= ow and 'meeting time' ?

Ideally we can turn arou= nd after the meeting breaks and WGLC this document in SIDROPS, unless chang= es are requested (of course!) :)

thanks!
-chris

On T= hu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:30 AM Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
T= his version I believes addresses the two outstanding issues Sandy raised du= ring her review.

spt

> On Aug 30, 2018, at 14:28, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing WG of the= IETF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: Router Keying for BGPsec
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: = Randy Bush
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sean Turner
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Keyur Patel
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-= ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: 18
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 : 2018-08-30
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0BGPsec-speaking routers are provisioned with private keys = in order to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0sign BGPsec announcements.=C2=A0 The corresponding public = keys are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0published in the global Resource Public Key Infrastructure= , enabling
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0verification of BGPsec messages.=C2=A0 This document descr= ibes two methods
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0of generating the public-private key-pairs: router-driven = and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0operator-driven.
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf= -sidr-rtr-keying-16
> https://datatracker.ietf.org= /doc/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u= rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of subm= ission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> _______________________________________________
> I-D-Announce mailing list
> I-D-Announc= e@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-ann= ounce
> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html<= br> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt

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I have"draft-ietf-sidrops-bgpsec-rollover-04 - BGPsec Router Certificate Rollover - RFC Ed Queue : MISSREF for 281 days" sitting in my document queue. It's been awaitin' on draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying for almost 10 months, and it's making my twitchy :-) W > > thanks! > -chris > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:30 AM Sean Turner wrote: > >> This version I believes addresses the two outstanding issues Sandy raised >> during her review. >> >> spt >> >> > On Aug 30, 2018, at 14:28, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> > >> > >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> > This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing WG of the >> IETF. >> > >> > Title : Router Keying for BGPsec >> > Authors : Randy Bush >> > Sean Turner >> > Keyur Patel >> > Filename : draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16.txt >> > Pages : 18 >> > Date : 2018-08-30 >> > >> > Abstract: >> > BGPsec-speaking routers are provisioned with private keys in order to >> > sign BGPsec announcements. The corresponding public keys are >> > published in the global Resource Public Key Infrastructure, enabling >> > verification of BGPsec messages. This document describes two methods >> > of generating the public-private key-pairs: router-driven and >> > operator-driven. >> > >> > >> > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying/ >> > >> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16 >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16 >> > >> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16 >> > >> > >> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > I-D-Announce mailing list >> > I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> sidr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >> > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf --000000000000e0514b05763dbe14 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Sep = 19, 2018 at 2:17 AM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Howdy sidrops folks, thi= s document was left hanging in SIDR, it probably was better fit to sidr-ops= , so let's get Sean to re-spin a re-named document, auto-adopt that and= chat up any changes/etc between now and 'meeting time' ?

<= /div>
Ideally we can turn around after the meeting breaks and WGLC this= document in SIDROPS, unless changes are requested (of course!) :)

This sounds like a grand plan!=C2=A0

I = have"draft-ietf-sidrops-bgpsec-roll= over-04 -=C2=A0BGPsec Router Certificate Rollover - RFC Ed Queue : M= ISSREF for 281 days" sitting in my document queue. It's been await= in' on=C2=A0draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying for almost 10 months, and it'= ;s making my twitchy :-)

W


=C2=A0

thanks!
-chris

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:30 AM Sean Turner &= lt;sean@sn3rd.com&g= t; wrote:
This v= ersion I believes addresses the two outstanding issues Sandy raised during = her review.

spt

> On Aug 30, 2018, at 14:28, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing WG of the= IETF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: Router Keying for BGPsec
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: = Randy Bush
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sean Turner
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Keyur Patel
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-= ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: 18
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 : 2018-08-30
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0BGPsec-speaking routers are provisioned with private keys = in order to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0sign BGPsec announcements.=C2=A0 The corresponding public = keys are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0published in the global Resource Public Key Infrastructure= , enabling
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0verification of BGPsec messages.=C2=A0 This document descr= ibes two methods
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0of generating the public-private key-pairs: router-driven = and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0operator-driven.
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf= -sidr-rtr-keying-16
> https://datatracker.ietf.org= /doc/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u= rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-sidr-rtr-keying-16
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of subm= ission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> _______________________________________________
> I-D-Announce mailing list
> I-D-Announc= e@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-ann= ounce
> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html<= br> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt

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I don't think the execution is relevant when= it was obviously a bad idea in the first place.
This is like putting ra= bid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen tho= se particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0---maf<= /div>
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