From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3E4129678; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Kathleen Moriarty" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147630532217.6301.3758261047573326219.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:48:42 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:48:42 -0000 Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sidrops/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Typo in #3 3. Operational olutions for identified issues should be developed in sidr-ops and documented in informational or BCP documents. s/olutions/solutions/ From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59105129683; Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:59:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147630597232.6305.12340827396323902789.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:59:32 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:59:32 -0000 Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sidrops/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm a Yes (this is the right thing to do), but I don't need to be the only Yes :-) From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FECE1298B4; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:08:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Benoit Claise" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147634249716.2874.10634656003142408044.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:08:17 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] Benoit Claise's No Objection on charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:08:18 -0000 Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sidrops/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There were comments on the charter v3: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sidrops/ballot/480576/ Looking at the diffs, it seems that none of them (even the editorial ones) have been considered. While there are certainly not BLOCKS, I guess this is an oversight. Note that I haven't seen any discussions on the IESG mailing list. Regards, B. From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1216A12974F; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 05:39:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alissa Cooper" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147636237003.2874.15699064325831098309.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 05:39:30 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:39:30 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sidrops/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Given that the sponsoring AD hasn't balloted and none of the suggestions made during internal review were adopted or responded to, I was expecting this ballot to get deferred. I'm ok with the charter going forward but I wonder what is the point of spending time to review this twice if there is zero response to our original round of comments before we get asked to approve it. From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD934129756; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:07:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Mirja Kuehlewind" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147636402866.2857.16057644187382336408.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:07:08 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_char?= =?utf-8?q?ter-ietf-sidrops-00-04=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:07:09 -0000 Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45342129454; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:16:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Stephen Farrell" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147636461824.2921.14309379288241299885.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:16:58 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:16:58 -0000 Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sidrops/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with the comments that it'd be better to have a final charter now but am fine if that's fixed up before sending out to the community. From nobody Sun Oct 16 11:14:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietf.org Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BE6129454; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:22:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alia Atlas" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147636495469.2902.3857630511863136510.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:22:34 -0700 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:13:57 -0700 Cc: sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org Subject: [Sidrops] Alia Atlas' No Record on charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 13:22:35 -0000 Alia Atlas has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-sidrops-00-04: No Record When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. 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" is missing a ) From nobody Sun Oct 16 20:50:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1693129435; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.331 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.331 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.431] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZGgrF80bYedQ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagasaki.bogus.com (nagasaki.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A886129406; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp-2.local ([199.227.111.28]) (authenticated bits=0) by nagasaki.bogus.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u9H3k7XB018229 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:46:08 GMT (envelope-from joelja@bogus.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nagasaki.bogus.com: Host [199.227.111.28] claimed to be mbp-2.local To: sidr wg list , sidrops@ietf.org From: joel jaeggli Message-ID: <2efa595c-c64f-c926-f43a-3c1bf1d8103c@bogus.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:46:07 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/50.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Io4B6JbVDFJt3xNrP11A97XppN7E3Pu1e" Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:50:55 -0700 Cc: Chris Morrow Subject: [Sidrops] Updated status information for sidrops formation X-BeenThere: sidrops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:46:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Io4B6JbVDFJt3xNrP11A97XppN7E3Pu1e Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="g8bFk9idVeCiVcrMCK5EM8UctEA3HwAC2"; protected-headers="v1" From: joel jaeggli To: sidr wg list , sidrops@ietf.org Cc: Chris Morrow Message-ID: <2efa595c-c64f-c926-f43a-3c1bf1d8103c@bogus.com> Subject: Updated status information for sidrops formation --g8bFk9idVeCiVcrMCK5EM8UctEA3HwAC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US Folks, Some notes on the status of the sidrops proposal. The proposed charter passed internal reivew in the IESG. it is awaiting another editorial pass prior to going for external review. That process is expected to complete prior to IETF 97. https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/sidrops/charter/ A new mailing list has been created to support this activity. it is available at: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidrops Chris Morrow has graciously indicated a willingness to take on chairing, so we have one chair in place. More news on that soon. The expectation is that the working group if formed will meet first at IETF 98. The proposed charter includes work items which are already underway. 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