From owner-ietf-mta-filters Fri Aug 8 15:03:34 2003 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h78M3Yqt058194 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h78M3YGs058193 for ietf-mta-filters-bks; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from updegrove.net (12-246-251-12.client.attbi.com [12.246.251.12]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id h78M3Xqt058186 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dislists@updegrove.net) Received: (qmail 6506 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2003 22:03:38 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-166-46-11.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net (HELO updegrove.net) (64.166.46.11) by updegrove.net with SMTP; 8 Aug 2003 22:03:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3F341EC7.4080206@updegrove.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:05:59 -0700 From: Rick Updegrove User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org CC: jutta@sendmail.com Subject: FW: Body test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: FYI - I sent this to ietf-mta-filters@imc.org yesterday but that list seems to be down. The last post was: I will try and send it agin now with you as the Cc: Just a short answer would be very much appreciated. /postfix/sieve configuration, Manfred Friedrich, Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT)(envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Hi, I am currently conducting a Procmail vs. SIEVE test on an account that gets roughly 1000-1500 messages per day. The most useful tool I have with Procmail is the "Body test" which seems to be absent from SIEVE. Please correct me if I am wrong. I was reading the following RFC, and wondered if someone could elaborate on the second paragraph for me (namely which vendors). http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-degener-sieve-body-01.txt 1. Introduction The proposed "body" test checks for the occurrence of one or more strings in the body of an e-mail message. Such a test was initially discussed for the [SIEVE] base document, but was subsequently removed because it was thought to be too costly to implement. Nevertheless, several server vendors have implemented some form of the "body" test. This document reintroduces the "body" test as an extension, and specifies it syntax and semantics. The reason I ask is I have been unsuccessfully trying the following syntax with no success. The script is active. > list myscript <- active script > get myscript require ["body", "fileinto"]; # Save any message with any text MIME part that contains the # worlds "missile" or "coordinates" in the "secrets" folder. if body :content "text" :contains ["missile", "coordinates"] { fileinto "INBOX.secrets"; } if body :raw :contains "missile" { fileinto "INBOX.secrets"; } I *need* to filter based on body test and Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. I would be willing to implement alpha and beta versions of SIEVE if they implement the "body test" and are available somewhere. Thanks in advance, Rick P.S. I would also like to know how to enable the most verbose logging for SIEVE if anyone has some suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. From owner-ietf-mta-filters Fri Aug 8 15:29:58 2003 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h78MTwqt059557 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h78MTweD059556 for ietf-mta-filters-bks; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mv.mv.com (qmailr@iridium.mv.net [199.125.85.17]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id h78MTuqt059551 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mem@mv.mv.com) Received: (qmail 1645 invoked by uid 101); 8 Aug 2003 18:29:56 -0400 From: "Mark E. Mallett" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:29:56 -0400 To: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Subject: sieve action: pipe Message-ID: <20030808222956.GA12754@iridium.mv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Hi- I have a little sieve implementation that I have been tinkering with. Using it I've managed to almost completely abandon my old .procmailrc . The only remaining things in .procmailrc are those that pipe to a script. e.g.: :0 W: $REPORTS/news-rep.lock * ^From: .*news@news-server-name * ^Subject: .*Daily Usenet report | $REPORTS/news-rep.sh I would like to make something like a "pipeinto" action similar to "fileinto" -- e.g.: if allof ( address :is "from" "news@news-server-name", header :is "subject" "daily usenet report" ) { pipeinto :lockfile "news-rep.lock" "news-rep.sh"; } Have there been any thoughts about such a facility? I'd rather use an agreed-upon format than make something up, but I wasn't able to find anything. mm From owner-ietf-mta-filters Sat Aug 9 02:29:09 2003 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h799T8qt004813 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h799T8so004812 for ietf-mta-filters-bks; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:29:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from starship.enterprise.ucs.ed.ac.uk (starship.enterprise.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.40.70]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h799T6qt004802 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Nigel@swinson.com) Received: from nigelhome (unverified [80.195.14.206]) by starship.enterprise.ucs.ed.ac.uk (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.3) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:07:06 +0100 Message-ID: <0ade01c35e55$f9904a80$6501a8c0@nigelhome> From: "Nigel Swinson" To: "Rick Updegrove" Cc: References: <3F341EC7.4080206@updegrove.net> Subject: Re: Body test Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:09:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id h799T7qt004805 Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: > I was reading the following RFC, and wondered if someone could elaborate > on the second paragraph for me (namely which vendors). > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-degener-sieve-body-01.txt www.mailsite.com supports a body test. It's not quite the same as the I-Draft, it just treats the entire body as one long string. You can use regex and contains to match inside it which allows you to do pretty much whatever you want to search for, but obviously isn't "ideal" as the test isn't yet MIME aware, nor does it do transfer decoding or do anything with character sets. These are obviously things which we will be looking into in the future (when I'm successful in twisting product managements arm ;o) ) > I would also like to know how to enable the most verbose logging for > SIEVE if anyone has some suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. The tools in Mailsite permitting you to get your scripts right include a regular expression test dialog, and a sieve script test dialog which will run your script against every message in a folder and tell you which rules matched each message. Cheers Nigel Received: from above.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h799T8qt004813 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h799T8so004812 for ietf-mta-filters-bks; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:29:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from starship.enterprise.ucs.ed.ac.uk (starship.enterprise.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.40.70]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h799T6qt004802 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 02:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Nigel@swinson.com) Received: from nigelhome (unverified [80.195.14.206]) by starship.enterprise.ucs.ed.ac.uk (Rockliffe SMTPRA 5.3.3) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:07:06 +0100 Message-ID: <0ade01c35e55$f9904a80$6501a8c0@nigelhome> From: "Nigel Swinson" To: "Rick Updegrove" Cc: References: <3F341EC7.4080206@updegrove.net> Subject: Re: Body test Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:09:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id h799T7qt004805 Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: > I was reading the following RFC, and wondered if someone could elaborate > on the second paragraph for me (namely which vendors). > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-degener-sieve-body-01.txt www.mailsite.com supports a body test. It's not quite the same as the I-Draft, it just treats the entire body as one long string. You can use regex and contains to match inside it which allows you to do pretty much whatever you want to search for, but obviously isn't "ideal" as the test isn't yet MIME aware, nor does it do transfer decoding or do anything with character sets. These are obviously things which we will be looking into in the future (when I'm successful in twisting product managements arm ;o) ) > I would also like to know how to enable the most verbose logging for > SIEVE if anyone has some suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. The tools in Mailsite permitting you to get your scripts right include a regular expression test dialog, and a sieve script test dialog which will run your script against every message in a folder and tell you which rules matched each message. Cheers Nigel Received: from above.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h78MTwqt059557 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h78MTweD059556 for ietf-mta-filters-bks; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:29:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mv.mv.com (qmailr@iridium.mv.net [199.125.85.17]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id h78MTuqt059551 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mem@mv.mv.com) Received: (qmail 1645 invoked by uid 101); 8 Aug 2003 18:29:56 -0400 From: "Mark E. Mallett" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:29:56 -0400 To: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Subject: sieve action: pipe Message-ID: <20030808222956.GA12754@iridium.mv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Hi- I have a little sieve implementation that I have been tinkering with. Using it I've managed to almost completely abandon my old .procmailrc . The only remaining things in .procmailrc are those that pipe to a script. e.g.: :0 W: $REPORTS/news-rep.lock * ^From: .*news@news-server-name * ^Subject: .*Daily Usenet report | $REPORTS/news-rep.sh I would like to make something like a "pipeinto" action similar to "fileinto" -- e.g.: if allof ( address :is "from" "news@news-server-name", header :is "subject" "daily usenet report" ) { pipeinto :lockfile "news-rep.lock" "news-rep.sh"; } Have there been any thoughts about such a facility? I'd rather use an agreed-upon format than make something up, but I wasn't able to find anything. mm Received: from above.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h78M3Yqt058194 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h78M3YGs058193 for ietf-mta-filters-bks; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from updegrove.net (12-246-251-12.client.attbi.com [12.246.251.12]) by above.proper.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with SMTP id h78M3Xqt058186 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dislists@updegrove.net) Received: (qmail 6506 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2003 22:03:38 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-166-46-11.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net (HELO updegrove.net) (64.166.46.11) by updegrove.net with SMTP; 8 Aug 2003 22:03:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3F341EC7.4080206@updegrove.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:05:59 -0700 From: Rick Updegrove User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org CC: jutta@sendmail.com Subject: FW: Body test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: FYI - I sent this to ietf-mta-filters@imc.org yesterday but that list seems to be down. The last post was: I will try and send it agin now with you as the Cc: Just a short answer would be very much appreciated. /postfix/sieve configuration, Manfred Friedrich, Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:31:29 -0700 (PDT)(envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Hi, I am currently conducting a Procmail vs. SIEVE test on an account that gets roughly 1000-1500 messages per day. The most useful tool I have with Procmail is the "Body test" which seems to be absent from SIEVE. Please correct me if I am wrong. I was reading the following RFC, and wondered if someone could elaborate on the second paragraph for me (namely which vendors). http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-degener-sieve-body-01.txt 1. Introduction The proposed "body" test checks for the occurrence of one or more strings in the body of an e-mail message. Such a test was initially discussed for the [SIEVE] base document, but was subsequently removed because it was thought to be too costly to implement. Nevertheless, several server vendors have implemented some form of the "body" test. This document reintroduces the "body" test as an extension, and specifies it syntax and semantics. The reason I ask is I have been unsuccessfully trying the following syntax with no success. The script is active. > list myscript <- active script > get myscript require ["body", "fileinto"]; # Save any message with any text MIME part that contains the # worlds "missile" or "coordinates" in the "secrets" folder. if body :content "text" :contains ["missile", "coordinates"] { fileinto "INBOX.secrets"; } if body :raw :contains "missile" { fileinto "INBOX.secrets"; } I *need* to filter based on body test and Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. I would be willing to implement alpha and beta versions of SIEVE if they implement the "body test" and are available somewhere. Thanks in advance, Rick P.S. I would also like to know how to enable the most verbose logging for SIEVE if anyone has some suggestions they would be greatly appreciated.