From Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Mon Jan 10 07:00:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850CE3A69B7; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:00:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkoti3j4lZj8; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BCC3A6975; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:00:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110110150002.25108.81475.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:00:02 -0800 Cc: sieve@ietf.org Subject: [sieve] I-D Action:draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-04.txt X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:00:04 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : Sieve Email Filtering: Use of Presence Information with Auto Responder functionality Author(s) : R. George, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-04.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2011-01-10 This document describes how the Sieve email filtering language, along with some extensions, can be used to create automatic replies to incoming electronic mail messages based on the address book and presence information of the recipient. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2011-01-10065212.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Jan 10 14:10:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C5D3A6765; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:10:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.56 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dWjx0Mybk-bt; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA813A6768; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:10:49 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.10 Message-ID: <20110110221049.19340.73849.idtracker@localhost> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:10:49 -0800 Cc: Internet Architecture Board , sieve mailing list , sieve chair , RFC Editor Subject: [sieve] Document Action: 'Sieve Email Filtering: Use of Presence Information with Auto Responder functionality' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-04.txt) X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 22:10:51 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Sieve Email Filtering: Use of Presence Information with Auto Responder functionality' (draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-04.txt) as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Peter Saint-Andre and Alexey Melnikov. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply/ Technical Summary The SIEVE autoreply specification is an informational document that describes how various SIEVE extensions can be used to facilitate an auto-responder based on various "presence" and other useful information belonging to the SIEVE script owner. The security considerations section covers several identified security concerns. Working Group Summary This document has been discussed and reviewed in the SIEVE Working Group. There is consensus in the Working Group to publish this document as a Proposed Standard. Document Quality This is an informational document describing how SIEVE extensions can be used in a practical manner. It is not known if any implementations or deployments are yet following this approach. Personnel The Document Shepherd is Cyrus Daboo. The Responsible Area Director is Peter Saint-Andre. From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Fri Jan 14 11:16:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E1D3A68A3 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:16:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.756 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.756 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.221, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8vozHXkTM9MK for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90433A6803 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwn40 with SMTP id 40so3018334iwn.31 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:18:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OnxKJqCliTCYTEzxrSodPilHRf0nM9uPsVCvsjdYgtQ=; b=XARFynhsXYpQ5D/5NB73k2WJnI2pjVxdqzoKj2GaaPuP6GRaOs3hDgLpWmlD7mwgRS Bgw+twa+lP1hBc8J8jwMHDGmdbY3zK9S/CHUZ/w5x1r01KhUXhKBsFg68MzdGLXGUIzw B4rxnBnA4RVK4KI8HOk/+4rALwk7KvTFJpPjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ge5gKo2innyHlr2gS8x01ONuxTeD57o9ev3//g92ap4Y+pNhz9ZcPhf2Pe0PLYchlx kVvejAnAdHHTnVdev41r4QL9EOd3wJDdPjtEbfLuZJSaC6W2PPgiPYhijwC4kKfSELQb LxBF0AdwCCmnTmUhdqx0sR8ZDCc1XQxmAj1xo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.229.5 with SMTP id jg5mr1233371icb.353.1295032731756; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.227.193 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:18:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QMrBCPKDV7t2zYHECLRd9ThgUbs Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Sieve mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [sieve] WG status X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:16:26 -0000 > draft-ietf-sieve-include-06 - authors to do update based on comments from > last meeting and reviews. Once done, and the shepherd (Barry) is happy, it > can probably go to the IESG or Barry may decide another WG last call is > needed. I'm dredging this up. It seems to me that the -06 version is ready. The only comments I've seen are a suggestion from Dilyan that Jeff H disagreed with. Do the editors think this is ready to go to the IESG and IETF last call? Does the working group think so? If I hear a few "Let's go!" comments from the WG, and an OK from the editors, I'll do the write-up and give it to Alexey. Responses soon, please; I'd like to move on this now. Barry From stephan@rename-it.nl Tue Jan 25 09:27:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5143A6816 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:27:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UrO9TRdzQMYY for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from drpepper.rename-it.nl (drpepper.rename-it.nl [87.249.120.243]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E86B3A680E for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from wlan225098.mobiel.utwente.nl ([130.89.225.98]:52228) by drpepper.rename-it.nl with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Phmie-00061A-NB for sieve@ietf.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:30:18 +0100 Message-ID: <4D3F089F.3000804@rename-it.nl> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:30:07 +0100 From: Stephan Bosch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; nl; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sieve@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RenameIT-MailScanner-SpamScore: -3.3 (---) X-RenameIT-MailScanner-SpamCheck: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, AWL, BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Subject: Re: [sieve] WG status; include-06 X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:27:24 -0000 Op 14-1-2011 20:18, Barry Leiba schreef: >> draft-ietf-sieve-include-06 - authors to do update based on comments from >> last meeting and reviews. Once done, and the shepherd (Barry) is happy, it >> can probably go to the IESG or Barry may decide another WG last call is >> needed. > I'm dredging this up. It seems to me that the -06 version is ready. > The only comments I've seen are a suggestion from Dilyan that Jeff H > disagreed with. Do the editors think this is ready to go to the IESG > and IETF last call? Does the working group think so? If I hear a few > "Let's go!" comments from the WG, and an OK from the editors, I'll do > the write-up and give it to Alexey. > > Responses soon, please; I'd like to move on this now. The example script bugs are still not fixed: * page 9: personal spam_tests (line 5 and 9) and global spam_tests (line 6): reject command has no string argument * page 11; active script (line 3): "test-mailbox" is not a valid variable name * page 11; active script (line 14): missing require for relational extension, since :count is used * page 11; active script (line 14): the :count match type needs a string argument, e.g. "eq" * page 11; spam_filter_script (line 6): "spam-${test}; <- missing " The script 'always_allow' on page 8 uses the `header' test for testing an address header, which is not a very proper example. The `address' test should be used, because as it is now this script will not always work quite as expected, e.g. when From: header is ` "Mr. Boss" ', with possibly dire consequences ;). The example on page 8 has the script names above the code, whereas page 11 has the script names (in a caption) under the code, which I think is inconsistent and somewhat confusing. I believe Alexey also had some comments a few months ago. Other than that, there the issue with ManageSieve uploading (multiple) included scripts, possibly causing temporary include incompatibilities and unexpected behavior. However, I don't think this needs to be addressed in this document per se. Regards, Stephan. From aaron@serendipity.cx Tue Jan 25 10:03:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7098A3A6889 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:03:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.643 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.643 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yHe+RSwCNCgv for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.serendipity.cx (slice.serendipity.cx [67.23.2.90]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922F43A6810 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com (mail-qy0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by slice.serendipity.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19293110196 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:15:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyj19 with SMTP id 19so50576qyj.10 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:06:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.6.72 with SMTP id 8mr5694597qay.175.1295978801728; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:06:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.199.73 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:06:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D3F089F.3000804@rename-it.nl> References: <4D3F089F.3000804@rename-it.nl> From: Aaron Stone Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:06:21 -0800 Message-ID: To: Stephan Bosch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: sieve@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sieve] WG status; include-06 X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:03:45 -0000 I'll post a new version with these corrections, thank you! On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Stephan Bosch wrote= : > Op 14-1-2011 20:18, Barry Leiba schreef: >>> >>> draft-ietf-sieve-include-06 - authors to do update based on comments fr= om >>> last meeting and reviews. Once done, and the shepherd (Barry) is happy, >>> it >>> can probably go to the IESG or Barry may decide another WG last call is >>> needed. >> >> I'm dredging this up. =A0It seems to me that the -06 version is ready. >> The only comments I've seen are a suggestion from Dilyan that Jeff H >> disagreed with. =A0Do the editors think this is ready to go to the IESG >> and IETF last call? =A0Does the working group think so? =A0If I hear a f= ew >> "Let's go!" comments from the WG, and an OK from the editors, I'll do >> the write-up and give it to Alexey. >> >> Responses soon, please; I'd like to move on this now. > > The example script bugs are still not fixed: > > =A0* page 9: personal spam_tests (line 5 and 9) and global spam_tests (li= ne > 6): reject command has no string argument > =A0* page 11; active script (line 3): "test-mailbox" is not a valid varia= ble > name > =A0* page 11; active script (line 14): missing require for relational > extension, since :count is used > =A0* page 11; active script (line 14): the :count match type needs a stri= ng > argument, e.g. "eq" > =A0* page 11; spam_filter_script (line 6): "spam-${test}; <- missing " > > The script 'always_allow' on page 8 uses the `header' test for testing an > address header, which is not a very proper example. The `address' test > should be used, because as it is now this script will not always work qui= te > as expected, e.g. when From: header is ` "Mr. Boss" ', > with possibly dire consequences ;). > > The example on page 8 has the script names above the code, whereas page 1= 1 > has the script names (in a caption) under the code, which I think is > inconsistent and somewhat confusing. > > I believe Alexey also had some comments a few months ago. > > Other than that, there the issue with ManageSieve uploading (multiple) > included scripts, possibly causing temporary include incompatibilities an= d > unexpected behavior. However, I don't think this needs to be addressed in > this document per se. > > Regards, > > Stephan. > > > _______________________________________________ > sieve mailing list > sieve@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sieve >