From jhutz@cmu.edu Wed Feb 2 22:07:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9384E3A6874 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:07:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.516 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.516 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Y1YO0Uk-t-f for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.srv.cs.cmu.edu (SMTP01.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.217.196]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A4D3A685A for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.2.184.182] (JHUTZ-DYN5.PC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.184.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp01.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p136B6Pi020624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:11:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: Barry Leiba In-Reply-To: <14899_1295032735_p0EJIs4b025143_AANLkTinNocQLM+A69Q053gwBmWgKmx2DZ51_eK4bwKBr@mail.gmail.com> References: <14899_1295032735_p0EJIs4b025143_AANLkTinNocQLM+A69Q053gwBmWgKmx2DZ51_eK4bwKBr@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 01:11:07 -0500 Message-ID: <1296713467.3280.12.camel@destiny> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: mimedefang-cmuscs on 128.2.217.196 Cc: Sieve mailing list Subject: Re: [sieve] WG status X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:07:48 -0000 On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 14:18 -0500, Barry Leiba wrote: > > draft-ietf-sieve-include-06 - authors to do update based on comments from > > last meeting and reviews. Once done, and the shepherd (Barry) is happy, it > > can probably go to the IESG or Barry may decide another WG last call is > > needed. > > I'm dredging this up. It seems to me that the -06 version is ready. > The only comments I've seen are a suggestion from Dilyan that Jeff H > disagreed with. Do the editors think this is ready to go to the IESG > and IETF last call? Does the working group think so? If I hear a few > "Let's go!" comments from the WG, and an OK from the editors, I'll do > the write-up and give it to Alexey. > > Responses soon, please; I'd like to move on this now. I'm going to stick with my original responses to Dilyan's suggestions. Replacing "MUST default" with "defaults" would eliminate requirements language, which seems like an undesirable change in meaning. I prefer the language in the existing document. The remaining suggestions were stylistic comments on the example scripts. I don't think any of those changes are necessary, but I also don't object to them. -- Jeff From cyrus@daboo.name Mon Feb 14 06:42:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1383A6D48 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 06:42:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06=0.274, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LblbdLH0MFaO for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 06:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from daboo.name (daboo.name [151.201.22.177]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB313A6CA2 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 06:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122CE1BC30037 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:42:22 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iEpkSoj7vDxM for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.109] (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B9DA1BC30030 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:42:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:42:26 -0800 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Sieve mailing list Message-ID: <3D69FB75FAB4DBFD80EE2B9F@cyrus.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=563 Subject: [sieve] Prague meeting? X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:42:00 -0000 Hi folks, Today is the deadline for WG scheduling for the Prague meeting. Whilst we have one or two drafts that we need to get finished, I am not sure we will have enough participants present at the meeting to justify using a slot (I am probably not going to be present). If others feel it would be valuable to have a 1 hour slot to tackle specific outstanding issues (external lists, imap sieve, regex) I can submit a request, but someone else will need to step up and chair the meeting (as I don't believe Aaron will be present either). -- Cyrus Daboo From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Tue Feb 15 12:04:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81B73A6D10 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id blVRTw9rdURT for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7513A6D52 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwc10 with SMTP id 10so566913iwc.31 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:05:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nllGxiFtnD83QBnXTpDgTxhK/xY2OJ8Ybug8ubNWPWI=; b=v0u4QRzycDdi/l58fIa2N0RNgI/NZkGXnk6tLbOs+1ZmaStaAhfaQBefZ14YY2l1Cy Ij8SG1iAM7M7VUyOF4QHA0oQZNZCJjy9FiOxYtlM/zclwM7733WTrPNh/AU0yr+P+9wR N4/zkXBkQh+C6GjDeaZNV2obhRVJ6VNf0i5Bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=oUzf4Wm/sjb9EjkjnOLi2APQVrV4JXWYtQ0PTSA06ttJrh0/atFbn1irqrTNrQo6bz 5t5BpsL17oXbY52v4Jgqfa9CQ20ITFh/aFomcgq+Y5ZayPe4zTIJy68MlJm5IxCKuoac yQoAWsgj/En2Nxl8BJfrcSuLj8MfdFNXWZmhM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.170.195 with SMTP id g3mr2406240icz.52.1297800322137; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:05:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.229.67 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:05:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3D69FB75FAB4DBFD80EE2B9F@cyrus.local> References: <3D69FB75FAB4DBFD80EE2B9F@cyrus.local> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:05:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: iyxwD5E8d34Dk9gemlVrmadC1IQ Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Cyrus Daboo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Sieve mailing list Subject: Re: [sieve] Prague meeting? X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:04:56 -0000 > have enough participants present at the meeting to justify using a slot (I > am probably not going to be present). If others feel it would be valuable to > have a 1 hour slot to tackle specific outstanding issues (external lists, > imap sieve, regex) I can submit a request, but someone else will need to Alexey and I plan to have a mostly-final-we-hope version of external-lists posted very soon. We think we can finish it on the list, and don't need face-to-face time for that. I plan to have a semi-final version of imap-sieve posted within a week or two (I'll be travelling next week, so it might be after that). That version should incorporate Ned's last review, and should get us mostly done with that document. I think the most important thing to happen with that is thorough review, rather than discussion in Prague. If we need face time on it, we can do that in QC, but I hope it goes to the IESG before then. Is regex going to move at all? Or is it dead? In any case, I don't think a session in Prague is called for. Barry From aaron@serendipity.cx Tue Feb 15 12:14:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914453A6D8C for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.643 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.643 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QyXzfUyAoGqY for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.serendipity.cx (slice.serendipity.cx [67.23.2.90]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B943A6A9D for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by slice.serendipity.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D10FF110077 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by vxi40 with SMTP id 40so431522vxi.31 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.181.130 with SMTP id by2mr1471483vcb.247.1297800871900; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.193.138 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3D69FB75FAB4DBFD80EE2B9F@cyrus.local> References: <3D69FB75FAB4DBFD80EE2B9F@cyrus.local> From: Aaron Stone Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:14:11 -0800 Message-ID: To: Cyrus Daboo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Sieve mailing list Subject: Re: [sieve] Prague meeting? X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:14:07 -0000 Indeed, I cannot make it :/ On my plate is an update to Include, and looking over the charter again to see where we're at. Aaron On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Hi folks, > Today is the deadline for WG scheduling for the Prague meeting. Whilst we > have one or two drafts that we need to get finished, I am not sure we will > have enough participants present at the meeting to justify using a slot (I > am probably not going to be present). If others feel it would be valuable to > have a 1 hour slot to tackle specific outstanding issues (external lists, > imap sieve, regex) I can submit a request, but someone else will need to > step up and chair the meeting (as I don't believe Aaron will be present > either). > > -- > Cyrus Daboo > > _______________________________________________ > sieve mailing list > sieve@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sieve > From cyrus@daboo.name Tue Feb 15 12:15:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9E23A6D10 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:15:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jJ7Epixnm3M for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from daboo.name (daboo.name [151.201.22.177]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DF33A6A9D for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3D91BC65A9B; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:15:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32hE95Ox8bx2; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from caldav.corp.apple.com (unknown [17.101.32.44]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84C131BC65A90; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:15:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:15:44 -0500 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Barry Leiba Message-ID: <98CEB290F3222577F308E468@caldav.corp.apple.com> In-Reply-To: References: <3D69FB75FAB4DBFD80EE2B9F@cyrus.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=1177 Cc: Sieve mailing list Subject: Re: [sieve] Prague meeting? X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:15:23 -0000 Hi Barry, --On February 15, 2011 3:05:22 PM -0500 Barry Leiba wrote: > Alexey and I plan to have a mostly-final-we-hope version of > external-lists posted very soon. We think we can finish it on the > list, and don't need face-to-face time for that. That would be great, thanks. > I plan to have a semi-final version of imap-sieve posted within a week > or two (I'll be travelling next week, so it might be after that). > That version should incorporate Ned's last review, and should get us > mostly done with that document. I think the most important thing to > happen with that is thorough review, rather than discussion in Prague. > If we need face time on it, we can do that in QC, but I hope it goes > to the IESG before then. Well I think as soon as you have the new version done, I would be tempted to issue a WG last call and get it reviewed. > Is regex going to move at all? Or is it dead? There has been no progress. Ned, Jeffrey - anything to report? > In any case, I don't think a session in Prague is called for. Yeah - well I did not request one before the deadline so we won't have a session in Prague. -- Cyrus Daboo