From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Mon Mar 5 18:47:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9519421F8503 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:47:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.986 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.986 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T080PlyqVDcK for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206421F8501 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by ghbg16 with SMTP id g16so2267520ghb.31 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com designates 10.236.184.129 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.184.129; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com designates 10.236.184.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.184.129]) by 10.236.184.129 with SMTP id s1mr30798704yhm.21.1331002040719 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:47:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wl9CtPDHoB+dAXFbCGVSLPkMk0IHWhWlk1UhlW3bG9E=; b=UYCb8T+9VzHCnKgU1WBn/RGFDAuUrEFkMcrm2sL3S45uoPbnhEgnzQAhTLkFn4OPbz cWBdVoGvqgnUczWOlp8scFr6pw2ZZmyi3AaZ5DLv5qlC8y+93naQJAx0xJYWqVXwep9o WGF2UC5int6Wea6ovCQMniwqTeTS9Ddxr0S4FucLuc7PLDjBlOZcWyk4+zlyNjrk3vbS nuUTkRj/qADBJXutXn1lWgYJRMMby0+XdSbexCA8pU5W5Zd2OnmBsabxAvDRWueylWpF Gp/gZVXHMfttVquiKhFg1iHYX4dR8QvgCHRwK+Pjf2ZVZ5L0Dze4Lg59WVvgv3kvoC2j +LdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.184.129 with SMTP id s1mr24292556yhm.21.1331002040666; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:47:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.147.106.16 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:47:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F1ABE14.5020601@isode.com> <01OB4UBRD5QU00ZUIL@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 21:47:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IKAqAfWPadQiEyjlexARKfsvAFc Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Aaron Stone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Sieve mailing list Subject: Re: [sieve] Sieve include: interactions with MIME loops X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 02:47:21 -0000 PING! > That looks like what we want (the -15 version). =A0Now just put out a > -16 to fix the "foreverpart" typo you just introduced, and we'll move > it along. Aaron: please post a -16 version with the typo fixed, and I will tell Pete to go ahead with this. Barry, shepherd From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Mar 6 08:38:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A61521F8968; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:38:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lMFNdbr9ISiL; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D6521F87C1; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:38:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120306163823.8359.75567.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 08:38:23 -0800 Cc: sieve@ietf.org Subject: [sieve] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:38:24 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working= Group of the IETF. Title : Support for Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) Even= ts in Sieve Author(s) : Barry Leiba Filename : draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2012-03-06 Sieve defines an email filtering language that can, in principle, plug into any point in the processing of an email message. As defined in the base specification, it plugs into mail delivery. This document defines how Sieve can plug into points in the IMAP protocol where messages are created or changed, adding the option of user- defined or installation-defined filtering (or, with Sieve extensions, features such as notifications). A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:15:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A784A21F8841 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:15:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.985 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.985 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fzom+e5Dz6z2 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE3321F861A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by ggmi1 with SMTP id i1so2662419ggm.31 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com designates 10.236.184.129 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.184.129; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com designates 10.236.184.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.184.129]) by 10.236.184.129 with SMTP id s1mr35470271yhm.21.1331054138839 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:15:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EAGe3tw+A0036e2Kf795jrGY1797dcfnWK2EdP7NjH4=; b=aIFlAmPxh4qAo9R2q4oCw5ZJvMKGTEfs/QbqtxRzOQg5B6yp3XvlqbmJFPZLGMc30x 7Zph/iS+1rCv73M2g5pMuvfT82EOoblOn5APFMnHBtlQ7wUW7EiUDiL3zhJY7UET8WRm RvlBT4LgZyHa0b9GPkF4lgXQBq9el+RQwXnIy3lhVLGKD47RU3qp960tArIlHE/R9d8d jsSLMjRqHGATa1SAYZ37WWkSQoWRPZh77oTWqg8qAJ5N51+D9K/s10Q9sqYgMq/iJ+jS UmiUj0xGVkP3vsmd/lam0Y870FQ8HG/r0Js9xDe8jS4zviLIPSl1Lmx44SWDfFeLjmDG tdWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.184.129 with SMTP id s1mr28082017yhm.21.1331054138784; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 09:15:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.147.106.16 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 09:15:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120306163823.8359.75567.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20120306163823.8359.75567.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HqCT3wbyqYKSHDA1h5v4oSiPE-A Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Sieve mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sieve] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:15:40 -0000 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Langua= ge > Working Group of the IETF. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Support for Internet Message A= ccess Protocol (IMAP) Events in Sieve ... > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt And another is: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve (Hi, Alexey!) This version should be close to ready: I've incorporated all comments so far except what I note below, and thanks to Stephan for his last review (quite some time ago now; sorry), which resulted in some significant improvements. (I do have two minor updates in my working copy, one of which replaces the obsolete reference to RFC 4409 with 6409.) I have added a section, 1.4, noting what's left; please review that. In that section I have three responses to Stephan (which I think should be final, and we should be OK), and two remaining action items that I'd like to ask Alexey to help with. The two items are as follows: To Do: "Interaction with Metadata": Add text requiring ManageSieve, and giving ManageSieve URI in IMAP capability. To Do: "Interaction with Metadata": Add ManageSieve action to set metadata item. Alexey, you're much more familiar with ManageSieve than I am. Can you come up with text to put into the "Interaction with Metadata" section (2.3.1) that will resolve these two items? If we can get text for that soon (hey, maybe even by the end of the week, so I can re-post before the Monday deadline?), we can actually do a WGLC on this version, and be ready to send it to the IESG after Paris. Barry From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Mar 6 20:14:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB0721E8047; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:14:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0TtVpuVxlbKd; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BA421E8059; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:14:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120307041401.324.20690.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:14:01 -0800 Cc: sieve mailing list , sieve chair , RFC Editor Subject: [sieve] Protocol Action: 'Sieve Email Filtering: Include Extension' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-sieve-include-15.txt) X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 04:14:02 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Sieve Email Filtering: Include Extension' (draft-ietf-sieve-include-15.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Peter Saint-Andre. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sieve-include/ Technical Summary The Sieve Email Filtering "include" extension permits users to include one Sieve script inside another. This can make managing large scripts or multiple sets of scripts much easier, and allows a site and its users to build up libraries of scripts. Users are able to include their own personal scripts or site-wide scripts. Working Group Summary This was a popular extension within the working group. It was under active development for about a year and a half, during which time a number of suggestions were discussed, and issues were ironed out. It then went dormant for a year because the editors (also the two chairs) were very busy, and the working group as a whole was very quiet. Once revived, it was finished up with final editing. There are no controversies at this point, and there were no major controversies during the document's development. Document Quality The issues that were worked out during document development were mostly dealing with how to specify the included scripts, how multiple included scripts interact, and how to resolve conflicts among the different scripts. The working group expects that this isn't the final version, and that it will be updated after more experience in practical use -- that is, what's here is appropriate for Proposed Standard. There are at least two implementations of draft versions, and at least two other implementors plan to implement the final version. Personnel Barry Leiba is the Document Shepherd. Pete Resnick is the Responsible AD. RFC Editor Note Section 3.5, end of second paragraph (typo "foreverpart"): OLD A "stop" in an included script, even within a "foreverpart" loop, still halts all script execution NEW A "stop" in an included script, even within a "foreverypart" loop, still halts all script execution From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Wed Mar 7 15:25:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E119311E8074 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:25:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.985 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.985 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DTojp5zq6Rt9 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BCB11E8072 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so6811426vbb.31 for ; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:25:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W2BAtYLnDApv898Pmds06GRSdiESY1l8qxe31Erfzfs=; b=LBD9u7D7r9D9hcfL15l1jVxIL14cGCrHHRYEa+TncXa/YEJ5WNxsLYqM63PC16WAqi FR2PA4i7uqPfB80eXej06MWterdTjVy8UF+pPj1n940TMajaBmdq+4nRf1IDJpR/1qoS JAhWAdRdhDjwwoK86QVJ/sSEgG4bAnh1aptzgwgN29SIAb421IZ7cEhn1qXEadQR9br7 IbVpXCjhLlVJIcLbyFzn3Q2KGarQCed/u/nRYhH1khDUNxaobL+xShUf8TnzAFmgYWxD KgiQEAHvo5lRIQYLuBZpW15hpNscrsYXzPZTH6JLw/aw0ZHUDhmE8A4FtTmPanD4fBt7 9klQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.176.198 with SMTP id ck6mr6597701vdc.0.1331162704754; Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:25:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.161.37 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 15:25:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120307041401.324.20690.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20120307041401.324.20690.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 18:25:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Svxzjc6ZW8dR6iP16IdCHLGJZs4 Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Sieve mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sieve] Protocol Action: 'Sieve Email Filtering: Include Extension' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-sieve-include-15.txt) X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 23:25:06 -0000 > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'Sieve Email Filtering: Include Extension' > =A0(draft-ietf-sieve-include-15.txt) as a Proposed Standard This is nearly it! We're down to one final document now, draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve Let's get that finished up and wrap things up! Barry From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Wed Mar 7 17:56:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F8E21E8028; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:56:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.159 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.159 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_93=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id urtdbG-wdkVw; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3C21E8012; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 0A52672E038; Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:43:25 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20120308014325.0A52672E038@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 17:43:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: sieve@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [sieve] RFC 6558 on Sieve Extension for Converting Messages before Delivery X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 01:56:34 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6558 Title: Sieve Extension for Converting Messages before Delivery Author: A. Melnikov, B. Leiba, K. Li Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: March 2012 Mailbox: Alexey.Melnikov@isode.com, barryleiba@computer.org, likepeng@huawei.com Pages: 8 Characters: 17152 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-sieve-convert-06.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6558.txt This document describes how the "CONVERT" IMAP extension can be used within the Sieve mail filtering language to transform messages before final delivery. [STANDARDS-TRACK] This document is a product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Wed Mar 14 08:50:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB7D21F87C6 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.984 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.984 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZYUNPcmtGu5K for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9921F8778 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yenm5 with SMTP id m5so2244601yen.31 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:50:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=71ouEaob5Gmjc9bA+kmuUtPZjT6JNVmfl9CBZIlvwRk=; b=Sj7Ysw40Udr4n4Fxjq09JG88XTw9nKviETt95Mu5X7VgVqQQlakRPWq7KTmzuut2Wo JoUc9m6Nc2TxohH+oeOCT5YiPO8N3d69L5CkRh7s72dafDyROOyUu6GphzYuVhPom8Qk 1KPUVeiUErg8ajRiGF8/clbgBnf7VVhmjf/oydFnSiDspFoH8syZQTua4aaE3Gqqs0fP 0rlV+z3TKOWMo/O8e9EzgzIkl108V2USOYDAr8/po23VeoUuocqIp2RE0fTdrj4O0EyH R6fRPBBwVxDBsFq/UbvCOXD6aMqZ99EVZjbyrMvckFqqWn+pkQlWgvXGhAG8PGT0rul4 hw5w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.181.193 with SMTP id l41mr3571592yhm.38.1331740240829; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.147.106.16 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:50:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120306163823.8359.75567.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:50:40 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: m1GK3TbExYlajp-N6aSWNZ15JgY Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: Sieve mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [sieve] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:50:42 -0000 Ping... Still soliciting final reviews. Ned 'em. Last document, here -- let's finish it up! Also: we have a suggestion that the target status of this document be changed from Standards Track to Experimental. I support that change, as do the chairs. Comments from other reviewers on this are welcome encouraged. Barry On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Barry Leiba wrot= e: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Langu= age >> Working Group of the IETF. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Support for Internet Message = Access Protocol (IMAP) Events in Sieve > ... >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt > > And another is: > =A0http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve =A0(Hi, Alexey!= ) > > This version should be close to ready: I've incorporated all comments > so far except what I note below, and thanks to Stephan for his last > review (quite some time ago now; sorry), which resulted in some > significant improvements. =A0(I do have two minor updates in my working > copy, one of which replaces the obsolete reference to RFC 4409 with > 6409.) > > I have added a section, 1.4, noting what's left; please review that. > In that section I have three responses to Stephan (which I think > should be final, and we should be OK), and two remaining action items > that I'd like to ask Alexey to help with. > > The two items are as follows: > > =A0 To Do: "Interaction with Metadata": Add text requiring ManageSieve, > =A0 and giving ManageSieve URI in IMAP capability. > > =A0 To Do: "Interaction with Metadata": Add ManageSieve action to set > =A0 metadata item. > > Alexey, you're much more familiar with ManageSieve than I am. =A0Can you > come up with text to put into the "Interaction with Metadata" section > (2.3.1) that will resolve these two items? > > If we can get text for that soon (hey, maybe even by the end of the > week, so I can re-post before the Monday deadline?), we can actually > do a WGLC on this version, and be ready to send it to the IESG after > Paris. > > Barry From alexey.melnikov@isode.com Tue Mar 20 04:10:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sieve@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BBA21F85A0 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.355 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.355 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.244, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f1bsDj0bmsp2 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rufus.isode.com (cl-125.lon-03.gb.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a00:14f0:e000:7c::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F47721F8594 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:10:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1332241850; d=isode.com; s=selector; i=@isode.com; bh=Y0vriISBKp4j0en+V7+HHDPOQ9MXpoIlBZ/UWHcGlGo=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=YDgwoorL7qDyOJfLP6DaF+InQ2aUjrNC5Uduea9HSbRjx7K+xmpdZGJHmpSmiojTs39OfN Rl/ZVpNMlRXV/XvgrrYFE52WM5BHiD6kMHSsrv5YBPX+hQJeXix3X05l0o/6qcCINo8HJU J/MsI/BSZEGNA89smj5X2etqeTmdTfQ=; Received: from [172.16.1.29] (shiny.isode.com [62.3.217.250]) by rufus.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:10:50 +0000 X-SMTP-Protocol-Errors: PIPELINING Message-ID: <4F6865CC.1030609@isode.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:11:08 +0000 From: Alexey Melnikov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 To: Barry Leiba References: <20120306163823.8359.75567.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sieve mailing list Subject: Re: [sieve] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt X-BeenThere: sieve@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIEVE Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:10:57 -0000 Hi Barry, On 14/03/2012 15:50, Barry Leiba wrote: [...] > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language >>> Working Group of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Support for Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) Events in Sieve >> ... >>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-03.txt >> And another is: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve (Hi, Alexey!) >> >> This version should be close to ready: I've incorporated all comments >> so far except what I note below, and thanks to Stephan for his last >> review (quite some time ago now; sorry), which resulted in some >> significant improvements. (I do have two minor updates in my working >> copy, one of which replaces the obsolete reference to RFC 4409 with >> 6409.) >> >> I have added a section, 1.4, noting what's left; please review that. >> In that section I have three responses to Stephan (which I think >> should be final, and we should be OK), I think Stephan's issues were addressed. >> and two remaining action items >> that I'd like to ask Alexey to help with. >> >> The two items are as follows: >> >> To Do: "Interaction with Metadata": Add text requiring ManageSieve, I think you already did (by making support for ManageSieve a MUST). >> and giving ManageSieve URI in IMAP capability. I think you should update the definition of the "imapsieve" IMAP capability to be "imapsieve=", where sieveurl-server is defined in Section 3 of RFC 5804. Also update IMAP examples accordingly. >> To Do: "Interaction with Metadata": Add ManageSieve action to set >> metadata item. Is this still needed? And did you mean IMAP Sieve script activation for a mailbox? >> Alexey, you're much more familiar with ManageSieve than I am. Can you >> come up with text to put into the "Interaction with Metadata" section >> (2.3.1) that will resolve these two items? Some suggestions for the first issue are above. I need a bit more information on the second issue. Also here are some other related changes: 2.3.1. Interaction with Metadata This specifies the mechanism for "activating" a script for a given mailbox (or for all mailboxes), but does not specify a mechanism for creating, storing, or validating the script. Implementations MUST support ManageSieve [RFC5804], and can use the PUTSCRIPT command to store the script without using the SETACTIVE command to activate it. In any case, the script name that is specified in the /IMAPSieve/ Script metadata entry is in a form that depends upon how the server handles the storing of Sieve scripts. Script names used here MUST match script names used by METADATA. I do find the last 2 sentences confusing. How about this instead: Script names used in "/IMAPSieve/Script" metadata entries are the script names used on the corresponding ManageSieve server. If a "/IMAPSieve/Script" metadata entry contains a script name that doesn't exist in the ManageSieve server, then no Sieve script will be invoked for IMAP Sieve events. >> If we can get text for that soon (hey, maybe even by the end of the >> week, so I can re-post before the Monday deadline?), we can actually >> do a WGLC on this version, and be ready to send it to the IESG after >> Paris. >> >> Barry