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On 01/17/2017 10:31 AM, Ken Murchison wrote:
> All,
>
> A vendor that uses Cyrus IMAP has some customers that would like to 
> have copies of outgoing Sieve-generated messages (e.g. reject, 
> vacation) stored in their Sent mailbox.  We could obviously do this 
> with a user configurable option, but I was thinking of extending Sieve 
> to support a :fcc <mailbox> option on reject, vacation and any new 
> actions where it might apply.  The option could also leverage  
> draft-bosch-sieve-special-use to do something like :fcc "\\Sent"

I have a complete implementation of :fcc for vacation which also 
interacts with specific fileinto options (mailbox, imap4flags, 
special-use).  My question, before I start writing up a draft, is what 
the exact grammar should look like:

vacation VACATION-OPTS [ ":fcc" FILEINTO-OPTS <mailbox: string>] 
<reason: string>

OR

vacation VACATION-OPTS [ ":fcc" <mailbox: string> FILEINTO-OPTS ] 
<reason: string>

OR

vacation VACATION-OPTS [ ":fcc" <mailbox: string> ] FILEINTO-OPTS 
<reason: string>


where VACATION-OPTS is the expected:

[":days" number | ":seconds" number] [":subject" string] [":from" string]
  [":addresses" string-list] [":mime"] [":handle" string]


and FILEINTO-OPTS is:

[ ":create" ] [ ":flags" <list-of-flags: string-list> ] [ ":specialuse" 
<special-use-flag: string> ]



At this point I prefer the first choice since it looks a lot like 
fileinto itself and has the FILEINTO-OPTS booked-ended.  The last choice 
allows all of the options to appear in any order (including 
inter-mingling of VACATION-OPTS with FILEINTO-OPTS), but also removes 
the dependency of FILEINTO-OPTS on :fcc, which would allow a nonsensical 
:create or :flags to be used outside of :fcc.

Note that we do have at least one existing action command that has an 
option dependent on another:

deleteheader" [":index" <fieldno: number> [":last"]] ...


Thoughts?

-- 
Kenneth Murchison
Principal Systems Software Engineer
Carnegie Mellon University


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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5229,
"Sieve Email Filtering: Variables Extension".

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http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5015

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net>

Section: 3.2

Original Text
-------------
# Imagine the header
      # Subject: [acme-users] [fwd] version 1.0 is out
      if header :matches "Subject" "[*] *" {
          #  will hold "acme-users",
          #  will hold "[fwd] version 1.0 is out"
          fileinfo "INBOX.lists."; stop;
      }

Corrected Text
--------------
# Imagine the header
      # Subject: [acme-users] [fwd] version 1.0 is out
      if header :matches "Subject" "[*] *" {
          #  will hold "acme-users",
          #  will hold "[fwd] version 1.0 is out"
          fileinto "INBOX.lists."; stop;
      }

Notes
-----
This suggestion corrects the spelling of the "fileinto" action in the example.

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RFC5229 (draft-ietf-sieve-variables-08)
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Title               : Sieve Email Filtering: Variables Extension
Publication Date    : January 2008
Author(s)           : K. Homme
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Sieve Mail Filtering Language
Area                : Applications
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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on. den 10. 05. 2017 klokka 17.05 (-0700) skreiv RFC Errata System:
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5015
> 
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net>
> 
> Section: 3.2
> 
> Original Text
> -------------
> # Imagine the header
>       # Subject: [acme-users] [fwd] version 1.0 is out
>       if header :matches "Subject" "[*] *" {
>           #  will hold "acme-users",
>           #  will hold "[fwd] version 1.0 is out"
>           fileinfo "INBOX.lists."; stop;
>       }
> 
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> # Imagine the header
>       # Subject: [acme-users] [fwd] version 1.0 is out
>       if header :matches "Subject" "[*] *" {
>           #  will hold "acme-users",
>           #  will hold "[fwd] version 1.0 is out"
>           fileinto "INBOX.lists."; stop;
>       }
> 
> Notes
> -----
> This suggestion corrects the spelling of the "fileinto" action in the example.

mea culpa!  the fix is correct.

aside: it is interesting that the mail copy of this notification has
removed the "${1}" and "${2}" from the text.  it is correct in the web
version.

-- 
regards,
Kjetil T.


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The following errata report has been verified for RFC5229,
"Sieve Email Filtering: Variables Extension". 

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5015

--------------------------------------
Status: Verified
Type: Technical

Reported by: Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net>
Date Reported: 2017-05-10
Verified by: Alexey Melnikov (IESG)

Section: 3.2

Original Text
-------------
# Imagine the header
      # Subject: [acme-users] [fwd] version 1.0 is out
      if header :matches "Subject" "[*] *" {
          #  will hold "acme-users",
          #  will hold "[fwd] version 1.0 is out"
          fileinfo "INBOX.lists."; stop;
                ^
      }

Corrected Text
--------------
# Imagine the header
      # Subject: [acme-users] [fwd] version 1.0 is out
      if header :matches "Subject" "[*] *" {
          #  will hold "acme-users",
          #  will hold "[fwd] version 1.0 is out"
          fileinto "INBOX.lists."; stop;
      }

Notes
-----
This suggestion corrects the spelling of the "fileinto" action in the example.

--------------------------------------
RFC5229 (draft-ietf-sieve-variables-08)
--------------------------------------
Title               : Sieve Email Filtering: Variables Extension
Publication Date    : January 2008
Author(s)           : K. Homme
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Sieve Mail Filtering Language
Area                : Applications
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG