From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Mon Jan 3 10:35:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@ietf.org Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 6B2043A6A78; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:35:37 -0800 (PST) From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20110103183537.6B2043A6A78@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 10:35:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: sip-clf@ietf.org Subject: [sip-clf] SIPCLF WG Virtual Interim Meeting, January 19, 2011 X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:35:37 -0000 The SIP Common Log Format (sipclf) working group will hold a virtual interim meeting on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 07:00 AM EST (4:00 AM PST, 12:00 PM UTC) for one hour. Agenda and WebEx details will be announced on the SIPCLF mailing list (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-clf/current/maillist.html) shortly. From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Tue Jan 4 09:31:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@ietf.org Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id C95E83A6CE0; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:31:09 -0800 (PST) From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20110104173109.C95E83A6CE0@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:31:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: sip-clf@ietf.org Subject: [sip-clf] Updated: SIPCLF WG Virtual Interim Meeting, January 19, 2011 X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:31:09 -0000 The SIP Common Log Format (sipclf) working group will hold a virtual interim meeting on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 08:00 AM EST (5:00 AM PST, 1:00 PM UTC) for one hour. Agenda and WebEx details will be announced on the SIPCLF mailing list (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-clf/current/maillist.html) shortly. From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Tue Jan 11 05:42:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9937128C29F for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:42:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CGoLD0bhm6fo for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com (mail-qy0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B77E28C14B for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyj19 with SMTP id 19so22112280qyj.10 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.89.69 with SMTP id d5mr29029964qam.59.1294753499755; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.1.14] ([12.139.174.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20sm18321277qck.36.2011.01.11.05.44.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:44:59 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Musgrave Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-766198885 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:44:54 -0800 Message-Id: <1E1424DD-F3CC-4C7D-A22E-DECF6CC8A8BE@magorcorp.com> To: "sip-clf@ietf.org Mailing" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [sip-clf] Interim Agenda and Meeting Reminder X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 13:42:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail-5-766198885 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all,=20 Reminder we have the interim call next week (details below).=20 Agenda: 1) Problem Statement/Representation - Vijay - consensus on missing fields versus fields with parse errors? (proposal = was made in = http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-clf/current/msg00409.html) - vendor extensions - how to represent application/sdp 2) Logging format draft (Gonzalo S) - consensus on missing versus fields with parse errors - vendor extensions - how to represent application/sdp - are we ready to call for WG adoption of the doc? 3) AOB - any other loose ends we need to address? I have scheduled an hour for this meeting. I hope to have a few slides = from Vijay and Gonzalo by the end of the weekend. I will try and post = these in advance....so we're not all spending time reading slides... My goal is to get these finalized and have a brief session in Prague to = highlight any issues and then get these docs into WGLC. My hope is = Prague is the last SIPCLF face-to-face session. Cheers,=20 Peter Musgrave Co-Chair SIP-CLF Details: Topic: SIPCLF=20 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011=20 Time: 5:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00)=20 Meeting Number: 963 507 858=20 Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.)=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&RT=3DMiM0=20 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.=20 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This meeting = does not require a password.)=20 4. Click "Join".=20 To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:=20 = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&ORT=3DMiM0=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the audio conference only=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the = meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code.=20 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300=20 Global call-in numbers: = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED= =3D149831427&tollFree=3D0=20 Access code:963 507 858=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 For assistance=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc=20 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".=20 You can contact me at:=20 amorris@amsl.com=20 1-510-492-4081=20 To update this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft = Outlook), click this link:=20 = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&ICS=3DMRS3&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3DIUqeT2VNEFIXYJkFQWGepp/DkLZDqTrz5= 1n1dtmDKck=3D&RT=3DMiM0=20 WebEx will automatically setup Meeting Manager for Windows the first = time you join a meeting. To save time, you can setup prior to the = meeting by clicking this link:=20 https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/meetingcenter/mcsetup.php=20 The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files = requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media files in = the meeting, please check whether you have the players installed on your = computer by going = tohttps://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php=20 Sign up for a free trial of WebEx=20 http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial=20 http://www.webex.com=20 CCP:+14087926300x963507858#=20 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows = audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during = the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically = consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, = discuss your concerns with the meeting host prior to the start of the = recording or do not join the session. Please note that any such = recordings may be subject to discovery in the event of litigation.=20 --Apple-Mail-5-766198885 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = all, 

Reminder we have the interim call next = week (details = below). 

Agenda:

1)= Problem Statement/Representation - Vijay
- consensus on = missing fields versus fields with parse errors? (proposal was made = in http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-clf/current/msg00409.html)<= /div>
- vendor extensions
- how to represent = application/sdp


2) Logging = format draft (Gonzalo S)
- consensus on missing versus = fields with parse errors
- vendor extensions
- how = to represent application/sdp
- are we ready to call for = WG adoption of the doc?

3) AOB
- any = other loose ends we need to address?

I have = scheduled an hour for this meeting. I hope to have a few slides from = Vijay and Gonzalo by the end of the weekend. I will try and post these = in advance....so we're not all spending time reading = slides...

My goal is to get these finalized and = have a brief session in Prague to highlight any issues and then get = these docs into WGLC. My hope is Prague is the last SIPCLF face-to-face = session.

Cheers, 

P= eter Musgrave
Co-Chair = SIP-CLF


Details:

Topic: = SIPCLFDate: = Wednesday, January 19, 2011 
Time: 5:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, = GMT-08:00) 
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1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1498314= 27&UID=3D1196959032&RT=3DMiM0 
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4. Click = "Join".To = view in other time zones or languages, please click the = link:https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1498314= 27&UID=3D1196959032&ORT=3DMiM0 

 
To join the audio = conference only 
 
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To update this meeting to your calendar program (for = example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: 
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https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/meetingcenter/mcse= tup.phpThe = playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files = requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media files in = the meeting, please check whether you have the players installed on your = computer by going tohttps://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.ph= pSign = up for a free trial of WebEx 
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IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a = feature that allows audio and any documents and other materials = exchanged or viewed during the session to be recorded. By joining this = session, you automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not = consent to the recording, discuss your concerns with the meeting host = prior to the start of the recording or do not join the session. Please = note that any such recordings may be subject to discovery in the event = of litigation. 

= --Apple-Mail-5-766198885-- From rjsparks@nostrum.com Thu Jan 13 12:13:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439D93A6A86 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:13:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZS9+NraiRrTT for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2942B3A6A81 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.105] (pool-173-74-105-210.dllstx.fios.verizon.net [173.74.105.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0DKG2uh004339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:16:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) From: Robert Sparks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:16:02 -0600 Message-Id: <35C1C05A-EF80-478F-87DC-46ABAD0DD7B6@nostrum.com> To: SIP-CLF Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 173.74.105.210 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [sip-clf] Chair changes for SIP-CLF X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:13:41 -0000 All - Theo Zourzouvillys is stepping down as a SIP-CLF co-chair. Peter Musgrave will continue as the group's single chair. Please join me in thanking Theo for his past work. RjS From eburger@standardstrack.com Sun Jan 16 07:59:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF55E3A6BA3 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:59:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vWiTZT6HzkmB for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gs19.inmotionhosting.com (gs19.inmotionhosting.com [205.134.249.249]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDFC3A6A86 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:59:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=standardstrack.com; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer; b=yuwkvEtwXbBYeyc323RT7AB5EzF01Y8VQFGm6JlERRIcbhl/7UDvDDqKbrpA3rB/tdLn6/mWQH0mkXBt/VSDbDZW/ryJEHR0ZlhMVNIWUMC+OOmNP5ddiV9xUiBzwKjm; Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8] helo=[192.168.15.184]) by gs19.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PeV2Y-0003y6-Uw for sip-clf@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:01:15 -0800 From: Eric Burger Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-18--941068458; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:01:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <35C1C05A-EF80-478F-87DC-46ABAD0DD7B6@nostrum.com> To: SIP-CLF Mailing List References: <35C1C05A-EF80-478F-87DC-46ABAD0DD7B6@nostrum.com> Message-Id: <24BC8C47-FDB4-4CD4-8D76-FA0A68FF0833@standardstrack.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gs19.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Chair changes for SIP-CLF X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:59:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail-18--941068458 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you, Theo! 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2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF993A6E04 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:14:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.520, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ZP1y6gcxPpO for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ETMail2.acmepacket.com (unknown [216.41.24.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2563A6E0A for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.acmepacket.com (216.41.24.7) by ETMail2.acmepacket.com (216.41.24.9) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:17:14 -0500 Received: from mailbox1.acmepacket.com ([216.41.24.12]) by mail ([127.0.0.1]) with mapi; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:17:14 -0500 From: Hadriel Kaplan To: Peter Musgrave Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:17:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: [sip-clf] Interim Conference Call Thread-Index: Acu1sfnR9lAv2rXFRAeigF7JraoULg== Message-ID: References: <10006C0B-49E6-4104-B348-203A2693262E@magorcorp.com> In-Reply-To: <10006C0B-49E6-4104-B348-203A2693262E@magorcorp.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAUA= Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org Mailing" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Interim Conference Call X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:14:46 -0000 Hi, is the con call really at 7am EST? That's pretty tough for west-coast US (= 4am PST). The Doodle poll's earliest time was 8am EST. -hadriel On Dec 29, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Peter Musgrave wrote: > Hi all,=20 >=20 > The doodle has converged on Jan 19th 7AM EST as a suitable time. I have r= equested a conference call from the IESG secretary.=20 >=20 > Details and an agenda to follow on the list next week.=20 >=20 > Regards,=20 >=20 > Peter Musgrave > SIP-CLF co-chair > _______________________________________________ > sip-clf mailing list > sip-clf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf From gsalguei@cisco.com Sun Jan 16 11:23:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387A03A6E04 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:23:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id obyzoINFPBnj for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (hen.cisco.com [64.102.19.198]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B54A3A6DB6 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:23:40 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0GJQBRr029786; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from rtp-gsalguei-8714.cisco.com (rtp-gsalguei-8714.cisco.com [10.116.61.53]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p0GJQ0Pd015550; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:26:01 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-140--928819174 From: Gonzalo Salgueiro In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:26:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4444B5E3-85CA-4A65-9F90-0F9F52F82D3F@cisco.com> References: <10006C0B-49E6-4104-B348-203A2693262E@magorcorp.com> To: Hadriel Kaplan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org Mailing" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Interim Conference Call X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:23:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-140--928819174 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Hadriel - The call is at 8AM ET. Below are the webex details: Topic: SIPCLF=20 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011=20 Time: 5:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00)=20 Meeting Number: 963 507 858=20 Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.)=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&RT=3DMiM0=20 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.=20 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This meeting = does not require a password.)=20 4. Click "Join".=20 To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:=20 = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&ORT=3DMiM0=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the audio conference only=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the = meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code.=20 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300=20 Global call-in numbers: = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED= =3D149831427&tollFree=3D0=20 Access code:963 507 858=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 For assistance=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc=20 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".=20 You can contact me at:=20 amorris@amsl.com=20 1-510-492-4081=20 To update this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft = Outlook), click this link:=20 = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&ICS=3DMRS3&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3DIUqeT2VNEFIXYJkFQWGepp/DkLZDqTrz5= 1n1dtmDKck=3D&RT=3DMiM0=20 WebEx will automatically setup Meeting Manager for Windows the first = time you join a meeting. To save time, you can setup prior to the = meeting by clicking this link:=20 https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/meetingcenter/mcsetup.php=20 The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files = requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media files in = the meeting, please check whether you have the players installed on your = computer by going = tohttps://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php=20 Sign up for a free trial of WebEx=20 http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial=20 http://www.webex.com=20 CCP:+14087926300x963507858#=20 IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows = audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during = the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically = consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, = discuss your concerns with the meeting host prior to the start of the = recording or do not join the session. Please note that any such = recordings may be subject to discovery in the event of litigation.=20 Warm Regards, --Gonzalo On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: >=20 > Hi, > is the con call really at 7am EST? That's pretty tough for west-coast = US (4am PST). > The Doodle poll's earliest time was 8am EST. >=20 > -hadriel >=20 >=20 > On Dec 29, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Peter Musgrave wrote: >=20 >> Hi all,=20 >>=20 >> The doodle has converged on Jan 19th 7AM EST as a suitable time. I = have requested a conference call from the IESG secretary.=20 >>=20 >> Details and an agenda to follow on the list next week.=20 >>=20 >> Regards,=20 >>=20 >> Peter Musgrave >> SIP-CLF co-chair >> _______________________________________________ >> sip-clf mailing list >> sip-clf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf >=20 > _______________________________________________ > sip-clf mailing list > sip-clf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf --Apple-Mail-140--928819174 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Hadriel = -

The call is at 8AM ET. Below are the webex = details:

Topic: SIPCLF 
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 
Time: 5:00 am, = Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00) 
Meeting Number: 963 = 507 858 
To join the online = meeting (Now from mobile devices!) 
 
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1498314= 27&UID=3D1196959032&RT=3DMiM0 
2. If requested, = enter your name and email address. 
3. If a password is required, enter the meeting = password: (This meeting does not require a password.) 
4. Click = "Join".To = view in other time zones or languages, please click the = link:https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1498314= 27&UID=3D1196959032&ORT=3DMiM0 

 
To join the audio = conference only 
 
To receive a call = back, provide your phone number when you join the meeting, or call the = number below and enter the access code. 
Call-in toll number = (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300 
Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?s= erviceType=3DMC&ED=3D149831427&tollFree=3D0 

Access code:963 507 = 858 
For = assistance 
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc 
2. On the left = navigation bar, click "Support". 

You can contact me at: 
amorris@amsl.com 
 

To update this meeting to your calendar program (for = example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: 
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1498314= 27&UID=3D1196959032&ICS=3DMRS3&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&am= p;SHA2=3DIUqeT2VNEFIXYJkFQWGepp/DkLZDqTrz51n1dtmDKck=3D&RT=3DMiM0<= /span>WebEx = will automatically setup Meeting Manager for Windows the first time you = join a meeting. To save time, you can setup prior to the meeting by = clicking this link: 
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/meetingcenter/mcse= tup.phpThe = playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files = requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media files in = the meeting, please check whether you have the players installed on your = computer by going tohttps://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.ph= pSign = up for a free trial of WebEx 
http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial 

http://www.webex.com 

 

IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a = feature that allows audio and any documents and other materials = exchanged or viewed during the session to be recorded. By joining this = session, you automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not = consent to the recording, discuss your concerns with the meeting host = prior to the start of the recording or do not join the session. Please = note that any such recordings may be subject to discovery in the event = of litigation. 


Warm = Regards,

--Gonzalo

On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Hadriel Kaplan = wrote:


Hi,
is the con call really at 7am EST? =  That's pretty tough for west-coast US (4am PST).
The Doodle = poll's earliest time was 8am EST.

-hadriel


On Dec 29, = 2010, at 1:45 PM, Peter Musgrave wrote:

Hi all,

The doodle has = converged on Jan 19th 7AM EST as a suitable time. I have requested a = conference call from the IESG secretary.

Details and an = agenda to follow on the list next week.

Regards, =

Peter Musgrave
SIP-CLF co-chair
_______________________________________________
sip-clf mailing = list
sip-clf@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.or= g/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf

_______________________= ________________________
sip-clf mailing list
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= --Apple-Mail-140--928819174-- From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Tue Jan 18 12:06:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B381E3A6E5D for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:06:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.415 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.415 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.183, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t3MdZABoruDZ for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com (mail-gw0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A923A7021 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17so2749890gwj.31 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.50.4 with SMTP id x4mr6932419agx.90.1295381368831; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from petermac.magor.local ([72.1.217.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 37sm7382333anr.24.2011.01.18.12.09.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:09:28 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Musgrave Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-18--753412956 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:09:26 -0500 Message-Id: <7D2C6E56-C050-4237-A1DE-6B5ED0CE1001@magorcorp.com> To: "sip-clf@ietf.org Mailing" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [sip-clf] Interim reminder - Slides for Interim Call Wed. X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:06:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail-18--753412956 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have uploaded slides to=20 http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sipclf/trac/wiki I will be launching WebEx and showing the slides - but for those who = wish to dial in (or are skeptical of my ability to wield WebEx) the = slides are now available.=20 Peter Details: Topic: SIPCLF=20 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011=20 Time: 5:00 am, Pacific Standard Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00)=20 Meeting Number: 963 507 858=20 Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.)=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&RT=3DMiM0=20 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.=20 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This meeting = does not require a password.)=20 4. Click "Join".=20 To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:=20 = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D149831427&UID=3D119695903= 2&ORT=3DMiM0=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To join the audio conference only=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the = meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code.=20 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300=20 Global call-in numbers: = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED= =3D149831427&tollFree=3D0=20 Access code:963 507 858=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 For assistance=20 -------------------------------------------------------=20 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc=20 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".=20 You can contact me at:=20 amorris@amsl.com=20 1-510-492-4081=20 --Apple-Mail-18--753412956 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii I = have uploaded slides to 


I will be = launching WebEx and showing the slides - but for those who wish to dial = in (or are skeptical of my ability to wield WebEx) the slides are now = available. 

Peter

<= div>Details:

Topic: = SIPCLFDate: = Wednesday, January 19, 2011 
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= --Apple-Mail-18--753412956-- From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Wed Jan 19 06:12:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A67F3A713B for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:12:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.141 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.141 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.143, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_35=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4RlapTNRImic for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F553A713D for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by iyi42 with SMTP id 42so894809iyi.31 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.164.131 with SMTP id g3mr904415icy.193.1295446535411; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from petermac.magor.local ([72.1.217.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2sm5373124icv.15.2011.01.19.06.15.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:15:34 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Musgrave Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--688247780 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 09:15:31 -0500 Message-Id: <87B33EFA-59BC-4A4C-BFDA-C9D86A1B354D@magorcorp.com> To: "sip-clf@ietf.org Mailing" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [sip-clf] Interim Meeting - Minutes X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:12:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1--688247780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 SIP-CLF Interim Jan 19, 2011 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Peter Musgrave (chair) Robert Sparks (AD) Brian Trammel Hadriel Kaplan John Elwell Vijay Gurbani Gonzalo Salguerio Chris Lonvick Slides are archived on the WG Wiki as attachments = http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sipclf/trac/wiki=20 Vijay - Problem statement ------------------------------------ slide 2 - no discussion - ok slide 4 - log SDP only (Peter/Hadriel ok) What about ISUP bodies in INFOs? Could do vendor specific as hex NOTIFY messages? Bodies may be useful=85XML bodies can be logged as = vendor extension? Do we care if different vendors do the same logging for e.g. CONFERENCE = events e.g. SIP MESSAGE MESSAGE - try a straw proposal for application XML Slide 5 (Vendor extensions) - RFC5424 (use PEN - private enterprise number) - Chris is ok with this=85 Gonzalo S. - Representation --------------------------------------- - should the delimiter be tab, space, any whitespace burst etc? - spaces can appear inside fields (as can most other delimiters we = choose) - how do delimiters interact with shell tools (rep, cut, awk) - issue needs further discussion on the list Slide 7 (missing and unparsable fields) - the SHOULD at the bottom should be a must - what if headers is %2D? (turtles all the way down) - text on escaping in RFC5424 is worth looking at Slide 8 - tag=3Dvalue vs more cryptic TLV format - some concern about adding quotes around values (since some fields will = contain quotes) - this issue exists for almost any delimiter - essentially a matter of "taste" - go to the list for a sense of what = flavour has more support Discussion: Useful to have concrete examples of how to log content for = SDP and XML bodies. Vijay has a digraph (?) proposoal he will take to = the list. Peter: Deadlines for Prague are Mar 7 for format and Mar 14th for = problem statement.=20 Thanks to all for their continued work on this.=20 --Apple-Mail-1--688247780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Peter Musgrave (chair)
Brian Trammel
Hadriel Kaplan
Vijay Gurbani
Gonzalo = Salguerio
Chris Lonvick
Slides are archived on the WG Wiki as = attachments http://trac.tools.= ietf.org/wg/sipclf/trac/wiki 

Vijay - Problem = statement
------------------------------------
slide 4 - log SDP only = (Peter/Hadriel ok)
What about ISUP bodies in INFOs? Could do = vendor specific as hex
NOTIFY messages? Bodies may be useful=85XML = bodies can be logged as vendor extension?
Do we care if different = vendors do the same logging for e.g. CONFERENCE events
- try a straw proposal for = application XML
Slide 5 (Vendor extensions)
- = RFC5424 (use PEN - private enterprise number)
- = Chris is ok with this=85

- should the delimiter be = tab, space, any whitespace burst etc?
- spaces can appear inside = fields (as can most other delimiters we choose)
- = how do delimiters interact with shell tools (rep, cut, awk)
- = issue needs further discussion on the list
Slide 7 (missing and unparsable = fields)
- the SHOULD at the bottom should be a = must
- what if headers is %2D? (turtles all the way = down)
- text on escaping in RFC5424 is worth looking = at

Slide 8
- = tag=3Dvalue vs more cryptic TLV format
- some concern about = adding quotes around values (since some fields will contain = quotes)
- this issue exists for almost any = delimiter
- essentially a matter of "taste" - go to the = list for a sense of what flavour has more support
Discussion: Useful to have concrete examples of = how to log content for SDP and XML bodies. Vijay has a digraph (?) = proposoal he will take to the list.



= --Apple-Mail-1--688247780-- From vkg@bell-labs.com Wed Jan 19 08:24:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9B83A714D for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:24:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.276 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.276 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.943, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_URI_EQUALS=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RYvKGicMjo91 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4043A7172 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from umail.lucent.com (h135-3-40-63.lucent.com [135.3.40.63]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p0JGQxB4016000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:26:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from shoonya.ih.lucent.com (Knoppix-135185238233.ih.lucent.com [135.185.238.233]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id p0JGQwio023001 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:26:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 10:29:25 -0600 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sip-clf@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 Subject: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:24:20 -0000 Folks: In the virtual meeting we had this morning, I volunteered to draft a proposal for handling message bodies. As I understand it, the bounds are that logging bodies is optional and that bodies should not be logged as vendor extensions as that will hinder interoperability. Furthermore, we are interested in logging different body types, or more concretely bodies containing: - SDP (Content-Type: application/sdp) - XML payloads (Content-type: application/*+xml) - binary (Content-Type: application/{isup,qsig}) - miscellaneous text content (Content-type: message/sipfrag, message/http, text/plain, ...) To support this, we reserve a tag field for bodies as described in [1], say 0x0004. The value of this tag field would be the content type itself plus the body. To take a concrete example, Type: 0x0004 Length: 160 Value: application/sdp v=0\r\no=alice 2890844526 2890844526 IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com\r\ns=\r\nc=IN IP4 host.atlanta.example.com\r\nt=0 0\r\n m=audio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 8 97\r\n Couple of points to note: (a) the MIME type is saved in the Value; (b) the octets in Value are all logically on one line; (c) the Length includes the payload + length of the MIME type + LWS separator between the MIME type and the content. Also note that for now let's keep aside the \r\n tokens delimiting the lines in the example above. Once we agree to the proposal, we can work the details out on how to represent \r\n in a text-based body. Binary bodies would have to be byte encoded to render them in the ASCII file. Please comment on this approach so I can update the problem statement and Gonzalo can start thinking about the representation format for these in [1]. [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-salgueiro-sipclf-indexed-ascii-02 Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ From john.elwell@siemens-enterprise.com Thu Jan 20 01:52:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47CE28C12F for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:52:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.396 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.396 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, SARE_URI_EQUALS=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YZHZx8NvaR1i for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms03.m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com (m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com [62.180.227.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531E028C117 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from senmx11-mx ([62.134.46.9] [62.134.46.9]) by ms03.m0020.fra.mmp.de.bt.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3070102; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:55:22 +0100 Received: from MCHP064A.global-ad.net (unknown [172.29.37.63]) by senmx11-mx (Server) with ESMTP id 9CC611EB82AB; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:55:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from MCHP058A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.57]) by MCHP064A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.63]) with mapi; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:55:23 +0100 From: "Elwell, John" To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" , "sip-clf@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:55:21 +0100 Thread-Topic: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies Thread-Index: Acu39bTRXKo94stzQqW7gbajameVzgAkjMPA Message-ID: References: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:52:42 -0000 Vijay, Don't we need 4 different tags for the 4 content types we plan to support? = Otherwise you have to decode part of the value to see how the rest of the v= alue is encoded, IIUC. John =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-clf-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:sip-clf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vijay K. Gurbani > Sent: 19 January 2011 16:29 > To: sip-clf@ietf.org > Subject: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies >=20 > Folks: In the virtual meeting we had this morning, I volunteered > to draft a proposal for handling message bodies. >=20 > As I understand it, the bounds are that logging bodies is optional > and that bodies should not be logged as vendor extensions as that > will hinder interoperability. >=20 > Furthermore, we are interested in logging different body types, > or more concretely bodies containing: >=20 > - SDP (Content-Type: application/sdp) > - XML payloads (Content-type: application/*+xml) > - binary (Content-Type: application/{isup,qsig}) > - miscellaneous text content (Content-type: message/sipfrag, > message/http, text/plain, ...) >=20 > To support this, we reserve a tag field for bodies as described > in [1], say 0x0004. The value of this tag field would be the > content type itself plus the body. >=20 > To take a concrete example, >=20 > Type: 0x0004 > Length: 160 > Value: application/sdp v=3D0\r\no=3Dalice 2890844526 2890844526 IN IP= 4 > host.atlanta.example.com\r\ns=3D\r\nc=3DIN IP4 > host.atlanta.example.com\r\nt=3D0 0\r\n > m=3Daudio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 8 97\r\n >=20 > Couple of points to note: (a) the MIME type is saved in the Value; > (b) the octets in Value are all logically on one line; (c) the > Length includes the payload + length of the MIME type + LWS separator > between the MIME type and the content. >=20 > Also note that for now let's keep aside the \r\n tokens delimiting > the lines in the example above. Once we agree to the proposal, we > can work the details out on how to represent \r\n in a text-based > body. >=20 > Binary bodies would have to be byte encoded to render them in the > ASCII file. >=20 > Please comment on this approach so I can update the problem statement > and Gonzalo can start thinking about the representation format for > these in [1]. >=20 > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-salgueiro-sipclf-indexed-ascii-02 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - vijay > --=20 > Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent > 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) > Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com > Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ > _______________________________________________ > sip-clf mailing list > sip-clf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf > = From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Thu Jan 20 02:53:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3EB3A7101 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:53:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.274 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.274 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.941, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_URI_EQUALS=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4G5r0QXkDYC2 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B3A3A6E7C for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwn40 with SMTP id 40so499925iwn.31 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.241.9 with SMTP id lc9mr2322225icb.527.1295520987195; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([204.237.32.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm6775859ibi.14.2011.01.20.02.56.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:56:26 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Peter Musgrave In-Reply-To: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:56:23 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> To: Vijay K. Gurbani X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:53:46 -0000 Hi Vijay,=20 Thanks for getting this on the list so fast. This works for me.=20 (As for John's comment, I can live with having to decode the content = type as opposed to trying to enumerate them). Peter Musgrave (as individual) On 2011-01-19, at 11:29 AM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > Folks: In the virtual meeting we had this morning, I volunteered > to draft a proposal for handling message bodies. >=20 > As I understand it, the bounds are that logging bodies is optional > and that bodies should not be logged as vendor extensions as that > will hinder interoperability. >=20 > Furthermore, we are interested in logging different body types, > or more concretely bodies containing: >=20 > - SDP (Content-Type: application/sdp) > - XML payloads (Content-type: application/*+xml) > - binary (Content-Type: application/{isup,qsig}) > - miscellaneous text content (Content-type: message/sipfrag, > message/http, text/plain, ...) >=20 > To support this, we reserve a tag field for bodies as described > in [1], say 0x0004. The value of this tag field would be the > content type itself plus the body. >=20 > To take a concrete example, >=20 > Type: 0x0004 > Length: 160 > Value: application/sdp v=3D0\r\no=3Dalice 2890844526 2890844526 IN = IP4 > host.atlanta.example.com\r\ns=3D\r\nc=3DIN IP4 > host.atlanta.example.com\r\nt=3D0 0\r\n > m=3Daudio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 8 97\r\n >=20 > Couple of points to note: (a) the MIME type is saved in the Value; > (b) the octets in Value are all logically on one line; (c) the > Length includes the payload + length of the MIME type + LWS separator > between the MIME type and the content. >=20 > Also note that for now let's keep aside the \r\n tokens delimiting > the lines in the example above. Once we agree to the proposal, we > can work the details out on how to represent \r\n in a text-based > body. >=20 > Binary bodies would have to be byte encoded to render them in the > ASCII file. >=20 > Please comment on this approach so I can update the problem statement > and Gonzalo can start thinking about the representation format for > these in [1]. >=20 > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-salgueiro-sipclf-indexed-ascii-02 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - vijay > --=20 > Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent > 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) > Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com > Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ > _______________________________________________ > sip-clf mailing list > sip-clf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf From vkg@bell-labs.com Thu Jan 20 06:27:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D297328C118 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:27:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.393 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.393 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.206, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k7Y+iel37XSw for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A942728C101 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from umail.lucent.com (h135-3-40-63.lucent.com [135.3.40.63]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p0KEU5DL020765 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:30:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from shoonya.ih.lucent.com (Knoppix-135185238233.ih.lucent.com [135.185.238.233]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id p0KEU5Uq025157; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:30:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D384780.3060104@bell-labs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:32:32 -0600 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Elwell, John" References: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:27:23 -0000 On 01/20/2011 03:55 AM, Elwell, John wrote: > Vijay, > > Don't we need 4 different tags for the 4 content types we plan to > support? Otherwise you have to decode part of the value to see how > the rest of the value is encoded, IIUC. John: Thanks for your time; indeed, that was my intent. Having four different content types is one way to go, but since what is contained in this field is a body, then it also seems appropriate to have a tag for a body and insert the corresponding MIME type in the record to describe the body. In this manner, everything is self-described using the one body tag as compared to enumerating a separate tag for each body type. Will this approach work for you? Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ From john.elwell@siemens-enterprise.com Thu Jan 20 06:38:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1E63A7122 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:38:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zk47RM1s4iJc for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms04.m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com (m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com [62.180.227.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211283A7100 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from senmx12-mx ([62.134.46.10] [62.134.46.10]) by ms04.m0020.fra.mmp.de.bt.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3085092; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:40:41 +0100 Received: from MCHP063A.global-ad.net (unknown [172.29.37.61]) by senmx12-mx (Server) with ESMTP id C5AE323F0292; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:40:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from MCHP058A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.57]) by MCHP063A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.61]) with mapi; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:40:41 +0100 From: "Elwell, John" To: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:40:40 +0100 Thread-Topic: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies Thread-Index: Acu4rouHYCLEFo61TkSJerBTObnlhgAAWkIw Message-ID: References: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> <4D384780.3060104@bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: <4D384780.3060104@bell-labs.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:38:05 -0000 Vijay, I don't object strongly - just wanted to solicit other opinions. John =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Vijay K. Gurbani [mailto:vkg@bell-labs.com]=20 > Sent: 20 January 2011 14:33 > To: Elwell, John > Cc: sip-clf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies >=20 > On 01/20/2011 03:55 AM, Elwell, John wrote: > > Vijay, > > > > Don't we need 4 different tags for the 4 content types we plan to > > support? Otherwise you have to decode part of the value to see how > > the rest of the value is encoded, IIUC. >=20 > John: Thanks for your time; indeed, that was my intent. >=20 > Having four different content types is one way to go, but > since what is contained in this field is a body, then it also > seems appropriate to have a tag for a body and insert the > corresponding MIME type in the record to describe the body. >=20 > In this manner, everything is self-described using the one > body tag as compared to enumerating a separate tag for each > body type. >=20 > Will this approach work for you? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - vijay > --=20 > Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent > 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) > Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com > Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ > = From vkg@bell-labs.com Thu Jan 20 06:51:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB9A3A7115 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:51:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.202, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ez7p73JsIJ2r for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186083A6F6D for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from umail.lucent.com (h135-3-40-63.lucent.com [135.3.40.63]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id p0KErttG015453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:53:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from shoonya.ih.lucent.com (Knoppix-135185238233.ih.lucent.com [135.185.238.233]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id p0KErtWF019836; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:53:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4D384D16.5060601@bell-labs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:56:22 -0600 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Elwell, John" References: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> <4D384780.3060104@bell-labs.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:51:14 -0000 On 01/20/2011 08:40 AM, Elwell, John wrote: > Vijay, > > I don't object strongly - just wanted to solicit other opinions. John: OK, thanks. Note that one small advantage of having the one tag is that it makes it easy to handle multipart bodies since the MIME type plus boundary parameter is saved in the CLF record. With an enumerated tag set, we'd need to reserve a special tag for multipart and somehow save the boundary parameter in the CLF record. If you can think of a reason why going with one tag may prove problematic, please let me know. As far as I can see it, I think it should work. Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Thu Jan 27 03:21:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65BD3A68E8 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:21:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.237 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.237 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.904, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_URI_EQUALS=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PagYwRPEMMdZ for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E993A688E for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwn40 with SMTP id 40so2045833iwn.31 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.220.73 with SMTP id hx9mr1900768icb.521.1296127450951; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([204.237.32.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k42sm12411448ick.8.2011.01.27.03.24.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 03:24:10 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Peter Musgrave In-Reply-To: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:24:07 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9EA1890C-50D1-4066-B23F-8166721BC368@magorcorp.com> References: <4D371165.5030104@bell-labs.com> To: Vijay K. Gurbani X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: "sip-clf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sip-clf] Strawman proposal to handle bodies X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:21:10 -0000 SIP-CLFers.=20 It would be good to hear from a few more people on this issue! This appears to be the final substantive issue to getting the next round = of docs out (and hopefully then into WGLC).=20 Peter Musgrave (as chair) On 2011-01-19, at 11:29 AM, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > Folks: In the virtual meeting we had this morning, I volunteered > to draft a proposal for handling message bodies. >=20 > As I understand it, the bounds are that logging bodies is optional > and that bodies should not be logged as vendor extensions as that > will hinder interoperability. >=20 > Furthermore, we are interested in logging different body types, > or more concretely bodies containing: >=20 > - SDP (Content-Type: application/sdp) > - XML payloads (Content-type: application/*+xml) > - binary (Content-Type: application/{isup,qsig}) > - miscellaneous text content (Content-type: message/sipfrag, > message/http, text/plain, ...) >=20 > To support this, we reserve a tag field for bodies as described > in [1], say 0x0004. The value of this tag field would be the > content type itself plus the body. >=20 > To take a concrete example, >=20 > Type: 0x0004 > Length: 160 > Value: application/sdp v=3D0\r\no=3Dalice 2890844526 2890844526 IN = IP4 > host.atlanta.example.com\r\ns=3D\r\nc=3DIN IP4 > host.atlanta.example.com\r\nt=3D0 0\r\n > m=3Daudio 49170 RTP/AVP 0 8 97\r\n >=20 > Couple of points to note: (a) the MIME type is saved in the Value; > (b) the octets in Value are all logically on one line; (c) the > Length includes the payload + length of the MIME type + LWS separator > between the MIME type and the content. >=20 > Also note that for now let's keep aside the \r\n tokens delimiting > the lines in the example above. Once we agree to the proposal, we > can work the details out on how to represent \r\n in a text-based > body. >=20 > Binary bodies would have to be byte encoded to render them in the > ASCII file. >=20 > Please comment on this approach so I can update the problem statement > and Gonzalo can start thinking about the representation format for > these in [1]. >=20 > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-salgueiro-sipclf-indexed-ascii-02 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > - vijay > --=20 > Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent > 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60566 (USA) > Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com > Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ > _______________________________________________ > sip-clf mailing list > sip-clf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-clf From peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com Fri Jan 28 23:30:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-clf@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3013A696E for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:30:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J+dxioVlAdKQ for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8CE3A696D for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4097749wyf.31 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:33:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.30.84 with SMTP id t20mr503726wbc.156.1296286403752; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.149] (host86-177-223-89.range86-177.btcentralplus.com [86.177.223.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm8180072wbd.4.2011.01.28.23.33.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Musgrave Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-29-151616124 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:33:15 -0500 Message-Id: To: "sip-clf@ietf.org Mailing" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Subject: [sip-clf] Conference Announcement - SIP Network Operators X-BeenThere: sip-clf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Common Log File format discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 07:30:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-29-151616124 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 [as chair: This appeared relevant - so I have forwarded] The SIP Forum is holding its first SIP Network Operators Conference = (SIPNOC) on April 25th to the 27th, 2011, at the Hyatt Dulles Hotel in = Herndon, Virginia =96 a few minutes from Dulles International Airport.=20= SIPNOC is a technical conference developed for service providers and = carriers to gather and discuss the challenges of deploying and = implementing SIP-based communications technology, and to share the = best-practices and strategies that enable the successful and profitable = operation of SIP-based services and applications in fixed and mobile IP = network environments. Unlike other events, this conference is for SIP = network operations personnel, such as NOC engineers, rather than a = high-level conference for executives. For more information about SIPNOC, including the preliminary schedule of = events and other important details about the conference, please visit = http://www.sipnoc.org. The SIPNOC Program Committee is seeking proposals for presentations, = panels, or BOFs (Birds-Of-a-Feather sessions) for the SIPNOC 2011 = program. We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to SIP = network deployments. Operators are encouraged to present on successes, = issues, and concerns found in their deployments. Vendors are encouraged = to work with operators to present real-world deployment experiences. The deadline for submission of presentation/paper abstracts and draft = slides is February 21, 2011. Full details of the submission process and policies, as well as other = SIPNOC 2011 dates of interest, can be found at: http://www.sipforum.org/content/view/374/275/ I look forward to seeing you at the event! Best Wishes, Eric Burger SIPNOC Chair= --Apple-Mail-29-151616124 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 http://www.sipnoc.org.

The = SIPNOC Program Committee is seeking proposals for presentations, panels, = or BOFs (Birds-Of-a-Feather sessions) for the SIPNOC 2011 program. =  We invite presentations highlighting issues relating to SIP = network deployments. Operators are encouraged to present on successes, = issues, and concerns found in their deployments. Vendors are encouraged = to work with operators to present real-world deployment = experiences.

The deadline for submission of presentation/paper = abstracts and draft slides is February 21, 2011.
Full details of the = submission process and policies, as well as other SIPNOC 2011 dates of = interest, can be found at:
http://www.sipforum= .org/content/view/374/275/

I look forward to seeing you at = the event!

Best Wishes,
Eric Burger
SIPNOC = Chair= --Apple-Mail-29-151616124--