From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 1 09:56:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3047321E80DA; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:56:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.527 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.527 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e9RUkIv7j987; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A410021E8084; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:56:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.37 Message-ID: <20130201175630.27023.2656.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:56:30 -0800 Cc: sip-overload@ietf.org Subject: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:56:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the SIP Overload Control Working Group of the= IETF. Title : Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control Author(s) : Vijay K. Gurbani Volker Hilt Henning Schulzrinne Filename : draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2013-02-01 Abstract: Overload occurs in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) networks when SIP servers have insufficient resources to handle all SIP messages they receive. Even though the SIP protocol provides a limited overload control mechanism through its 503 (Service Unavailable) response code, SIP servers are still vulnerable to overload. This document defines the behaviour of SIP servers involved in overload control, and in addition, it specifies a loss-based overload scheme for SIP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From vkg@bell-labs.com Fri Feb 1 10:05:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE4521E8041 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:05:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oDjtjtXrfQzH for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A8821E808F for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.9]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r11I56SG024655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:05:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from umail.lucent.com (umail-ce2.ndc.lucent.com [135.3.40.63]) by usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id r11I56xA010035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:05:06 -0600 Received: from shoonya.ih.lucent.com (shoonya.ih.lucent.com [135.185.237.229]) by umail.lucent.com (8.13.8/TPES) with ESMTP id r11I56Db007531 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 12:05:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <510C03D1.9060105@bell-labs.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:05:05 -0600 From: "Vijay K. Gurbani" Organization: Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130110 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sip-overload@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.9 Subject: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:05:09 -0000 All: I have released version -12 of draft-ietf-soc-overload-control [1]. The only change from -11 is the reflection of list discussions on the text around local policy and the normative strength around it; please see [2] for a summary on the eventual settlement of this discussion. -12 includes the text agreed to on the list. [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00903.html Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani, Bell Laboratories, Alcatel-Lucent 1960 Lucent Lane, Rm. 9C-533, Naperville, Illinois 60563 (USA) Email: vkg@{bell-labs.com,acm.org} / vijay.gurbani@alcatel-lucent.com Web: http://ect.bell-labs.com/who/vkg/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 1 11:17:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797F821F8D41; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:17:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.073, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ru0lybZhoc1o; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EAB21F8D46; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:17:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.37 Message-ID: <20130201191750.25394.67669.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:17:50 -0800 Cc: sip-overload@ietf.org Subject: [sip-overload] I-D Action: draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-07.txt X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:17:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the SIP Overload Control Working Group of the= IETF. Title : A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Load Control Event P= ackage Author(s) : Charles Shen Henning Schulzrinne Arata Koike Filename : draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-07.txt Pages : 40 Date : 2013-02-01 Abstract: We define a load control event package for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP). It allows SIP entities to distribute load filtering policies to other SIP entities in the network. The load filtering policies contain rules to throttle calls based on their source or destination domain, telephone number prefix or for a specific user. The mechanism helps to prevent signaling overload and complements feedback-based SIP overload control efforts. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-packag= e-07 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From charles.newyork@gmail.com Fri Feb 1 11:27:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3585021E804C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:27:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ktVUEDH9psh2 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC8321E804A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id i10so4597684oag.28 for ; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:27:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=qAQG8Z0cGOo+KRwqGgxRUIRzXamE2L24BOccwV1u0AU=; b=m0tUyvhU9RJJDnuKQZEDodIl+wQ8woiHsUflsD0KWTzDIytREMb9ksVp5tFgkz3+ZD yBx15cP9OCIVH3+FvpAidcs0o/48XnTb8r0De9jVof+2WJHp4BEBxATgZm/JYjNbWhEj QWk7nU3hGr6F6HaFZKstD0ZtCO7hzjBVcZyAxi1Kllz43UbWogsYmR2UxbBpUOGyyy0C fgcs+lvO6ZyYebv5t5PnPrihPJ8ufVaNTq7Vudtc7NkOY+B1lWeNT2FfhQL0EaLKAkO9 u2V1B8Vtq8SIEoMTMlHc6jaewAaeB0aZCE7pKkrjqnPCK6LiWPwQrTpVbwxxVH8Jpr89 1Vog== X-Received: by 10.182.123.78 with SMTP id ly14mr9667101obb.58.1359746877630; Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:27:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: charles.newyork@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.151.82 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:27:37 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Shen Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:27:37 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HrvozIPSGFKYLkFWTSEV90M4bYI Message-ID: To: sip-overload@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: [sip-overload] draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-07 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 19:27:59 -0000 Hi all, I've submitted an updated version of draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package [1]. The only change from prior version is the reflection of list discussions on the text around local policy and the normative strength around it; please see [2] for a summary on the eventual settlement of this discussion. [1] http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-07.txt [2] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00903.html Thanks Charles From salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com Tue Feb 5 05:34:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB3F21F869E for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 05:34:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id azDl96KfQjN8 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 05:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AC121F8635 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 05:34:17 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f0d6d000007e61-d7-51110a58ade7 Received: from esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 5D.52.32353.85A01115; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:34:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.lmf.ericsson.se (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0256.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.97) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:34:16 +0100 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5032B24; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:34:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCC754212; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:34:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from ip-193-234-217-88.guest.ericsson.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847435413D; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:34:13 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 15:34:14 +0200 From: Salvatore Loreto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sip-overload@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070707000603080105060608" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW4El2Cgwff9Khb7nyZYzNu/h9WB yaP12V5WjyVLfjIFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZTz+u4q94L9kxdy2HywNjDNEuxg5OSQETCQW b2thgbDFJC7cW8/WxcjFISRwklFiQfM+dpCEkMB6RomFR5khErsYJd7NfcYC4axllJh4r40J wtnGKPH67XomkBZeAW2Jmcevg9ksAioSjev3g+1gEzCTeP5wCzOILSqQLPHxzjVWiHpBiZMz n4DViAgYSxx5vIURxGYWMJD4/HgXWI2wgI3ErafPgE7iAIqHSRycVwJxtprE1XObmCEu1ZLo PdvJNIFRaBaSqbMQOmaBDbWVuDDnOguELS+x/e0cZghbV+LC/yko4gsY2VYxsucmZuakl5tv YgSG/MEtvw12MG66L3aIUZqDRUmcN9z1QoCQQHpiSWp2ampBalF8UWlOavEhRiYOTqkGRqf7 /Dc6Ek4ky51cln307AE9VullwkkLuuYoqETGTJdkcnKJfNn20/ttFNeKC33i61UmBb49ltz2 TFddVv2tm9zSxQ6d03W2a0h8C2gJvzTB+LPXxS+LPnG9fSVlWZ22d+VGFSt2lYq1Eb2stxYZ yoqHPp2j9U/Na3vYzpVL6s/acmes+LZ5uxJLcUaioRZzUXEiAGPPMkdHAgAA Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:34:19 -0000 --------------070707000603080105060608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear WG partecipants, Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control") http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html ) has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been discussed and addressed in subsequent versions Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-overload@ietf.org), or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself). Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or "I've read the document and it has the following issues" are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs. The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th. Thank you, Salvatore as an SoC co-chair. --------------070707000603080105060608 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear WG partecipants,


Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on
draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control")
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt

The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html )
has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been discussed and addressed in subsequent versions

Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding
document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-overload@ietf.org),
or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself).

Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or
"I've read the document and it has the following issues"
are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs.


The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th.


Thank you,
Salvatore as an SoC co-chair.

--------------070707000603080105060608-- From salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com Sun Feb 10 23:34:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736E121F8808 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:34:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y0kiKeeUoFi1 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C74B21F87E1 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:34:48 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f316d0000028db-3d-51189f1763d8 Received: from esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id BF.CA.10459.71F98115; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:34:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.lmf.ericsson.se (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.94) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:34:47 +0100 Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.33.3]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189782ACC; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20305431F; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from n106.nomadiclab.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nomadiclab.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80B553C95; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:43 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:44 +0200 From: Salvatore Loreto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sip-overload@ietf.org" References: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090401020606050900000908" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvja74fIlAgyV39S32P02wmLd/D6sD k0frs72sHkuW/GQKYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgypi0ILdgrVLFl50uDYwXpLoYOTkkBEwkti2c wAxhi0lcuLeerYuRi0NI4CSjxLX3h5khnA2MEqe/LmaHcHYxSizafZ0VpEVIYC2jxJZjFhCJ ZYwSTXcfMYEkeAW0Jc6//soOYrMIqEqc3PwXbAebgJnE84dbwGxRgWSJj3eusULUC0qcnPmE BcQWETCWOPJ4CyOIzSxgIPH58S6wGmEBB4nJj54zQSzWlvgx4zTYHE4BHYl/myYC1XAA1YdJ bGsMgHhHTeLquU3MEOVaEr1nO5kmMIrMQrJtFkLHLLBlthIX5lxngbDlJba/ncMMYetKXPg/ BUV8ASPbKkb23MTMnPRyw02MwPg4uOW37g7GU+dEDjFKc7AoifOGuV4IEBJITyxJzU5NLUgt ii8qzUktPsTIxMEp1cDIuJJB+kkAG9e7JusSx/v5eS+fLSjui1YSf6eSNX9/x4Tj7i2tc9wL Z7v9q/IWMT1YLSPXESewXqHAjr/8UfuzB2zPBIyj5p/c2fWnrK+GK12SOUzGYWL2X5aPk/ee OcnS2u+yLKslbWp16Ydk28j79RHGF1OXvQtUuTZJ/vnp/aeCG3r/ZyuxFGckGmoxFxUnAgBi oJwMXQIAAA== Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:34:53 -0000 --------------090401020606050900000908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draft thanks a lot Salvatore On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote: > Dear WG partecipants, > > > Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on > draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol > (SIP) Overload Control") > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt > > The first WGLC that we run ( > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html ) > has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have > been discussed and addressed in subsequent versions > > Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding > document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list > (sip-overload@ietf.org), > or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself). > > Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or > "I've read the document and it has the following issues" > are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs. > > > The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th. > > > Thank you, > Salvatore as an SoC co-chair. > --------------090401020606050900000908 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call

I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback
please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draft

thanks a lot
Salvatore

On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote:
Dear WG partecipants,


Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on
draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control")
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt

The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html )
has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been discussed and addressed in subsequent versions

Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding
document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-overload@ietf.org),
or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself).

Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or
"I've read the document and it has the following issues"
are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs.


The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th.


Thank you,
Salvatore as an SoC co-chair.



--------------090401020606050900000908-- From bruno.chatras@orange.com Mon Feb 11 00:59:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7DE21F8652 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:59:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWlo4QbOeEtO for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias91.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.91]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28B621F8651 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from omfedm07.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.3]) by omfedm12.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 3637C18C7C4; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:59:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.183]) by omfedm07.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id D5F0F4C06E; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:59:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::81f:1640:4749:5d13]) by PEXCVZYH02.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:59:18 +0100 From: To: Salvatore Loreto , "sip-overload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 Thread-Index: AQHOCCpKMCudLkwQDU6Apb8zyPCouJh0Wc8w Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:59:17 +0000 Message-ID: <20305_1360573159_5118B2E6_20305_1921_3_88CAD1D4E8773F42858B58CAA28272A0109278@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com> <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.197.38.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_88CAD1D4E8773F42858B58CAA28272A0109278PEXCVZYM12corpora_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.10.24.110314 Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:59:23 -0000 --_000_88CAD1D4E8773F42858B58CAA28272A0109278PEXCVZYM12corpora_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just have one comment: Section 5.10.2 says that the response sent by a SIP server to non-participa= nts clients in case of overload is a 503 without the Retry-After header. I = did not find any text about the response sent by participating clients when= they have to reject a request. I assume they should send a 503 without the= Retry-After header as well. I would suggest adding the following sentence = at the end of 5.10, after "it will need to reject these requests": In such = cases, the SIP client shall reply to the requests with a 503 response witho= ut the Retry-After header. BC De : sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org] D= e la part de Salvatore Loreto Envoy=E9 : lundi 11 f=E9vrier 2013 08:35 =C0 : sip-overload@ietf.org Cc : Volker Hilt Objet : Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control= -12 this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draft thanks a lot Salvatore On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote: Dear WG partecipants, Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Ove= rload Control") http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overl= oad/current/msg00731.html ) has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been d= iscussed and addressed in subsequent versions Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-= overload@ietf.org), or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself). Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or "I've read the document and it has the following issues" are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs. The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th. Thank you, Salvatore as an SoC co-chair. ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete al= tere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged inf= ormation that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and dele= te this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for message= s that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. --_000_88CAD1D4E8773F42858B58CAA28272A0109278PEXCVZYM12corpora_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just hav= e one comment:

 = ;

Section 5.= 10.2 says that the response sent by a SIP server to non-participants client= s in case of overload is a 503 without the Retry-After header. I did not find any text about the response sent by participating clients w= hen they have to reject a request. I assume they should send a 503 without = the Retry-After header as well. I would suggest adding the following senten= ce at the end of 5.10, after “it will need to reject these requests”: In such cases, the SIP client s= hall reply to the requests with a 503 response without the Retry-After head= er.

 = ;

BC

 = ;

 = ;

De := sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-ove= rload-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Salvatore Loreto
Envoy=E9 : lundi 11 f=E9vrier 2013 08:35
=C0 : sip-overload@ietf.org
Cc : Volker Hilt
Objet : Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-over= load-control-12

 

this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call

I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback
please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draf= t

thanks a lot
Salvatore

On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote:

Dear WG partecipants,=


Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on
draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol= (SIP) Overload Control")
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt

The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html= )
has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been d= iscussed and addressed in subsequent versions

Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding
document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-overload@ietf.org),
or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself).

Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or=
"I've read the document and it has the following issues"
are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs.


The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th.


Thank you,
Salvatore as an SoC co-chair.

 

______________________________________________________________________=
___________________________________________________

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--_000_88CAD1D4E8773F42858B58CAA28272A0109278PEXCVZYM12corpora_-- From atle.monrad@ericsson.com Fri Feb 15 13:52:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2680321E803C for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:52:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PhS7sze+bzVT for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:52:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B56721E8047 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:52:33 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f0d6d000007e61-b8-511eae200aad Received: from ESESSHC019.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 1D.FA.32353.02EAE115; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:52:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB203.ericsson.se ([169.254.3.65]) by ESESSHC019.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:52:32 +0100 From: Atle Monrad To: "sip-overload@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 Thread-Index: AQHOCCpNJrfjPBGi6kGoJYBve6LVbZh0flrQgAbQleA= Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:52:30 +0000 Message-ID: <7D2F7D7ADBA812449F25F4A69922881C066214@ESESSMB203.ericsson.se> References: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com> <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nb-NO, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.18] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7D2F7D7ADBA812449F25F4A69922881C066214ESESSMB203ericsso_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvja7iOrlAg67LbBb7nyY4MHosWfKT KYAxissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvj16dbjAWPIysa7i9namB85NvFyMkhIWAicWfmBSYIW0ziwr31 bF2MXBxCAocYJdZ9XMEO4SxmlDiy4zkLSBWbgI7EuZ93WEFsEQFjiSOPtzCC2MICgRJr301l g4gHSfS0LGGEsK0kZt1dAFbPIqAqseDQdrA4r4C3xJrnu1ggFsxmlJi3ZiZYEadAlMSWIzuY uxg5OBgFZCXmNvGChJkFxCVuPZkPdamAxJI955khbFGJl4//sULYihIfX+1jBGllFsiXuPkj CmKVoMTJmU9YJjCKzEIyaRZC1SwkVRAlOhILdn9ig7C1JZYtfM0MY5858JgJWXwBI/sqRvbc xMyc9HLzTYzAGDm45bfBDsZN98UOMUpzsCiJ84a7XggQEkhPLEnNTk0tSC2KLyrNSS0+xMjE wSnVwCgg+dJOPv+yfaQS4+G7GnP93RT5Q8+xHHZ/HBO1fU5EZIcm204/zY1iex0keLYy7oo4 7cev90SV58E6Px2f4z9etsV92D7xq1BnVO2pbYH+zTNSLc/wZrgeNN7/31x4hUO16y8piw8v pVV/HdObUniHRdCpdKfZ7j/758bsLpZP+3AhZ4sGpxJLcUaioRZzUXEiAD7e9nFfAgAA Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:52:37 -0000 --_000_7D2F7D7ADBA812449F25F4A69922881C066214ESESSMB203ericsso_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day The draft is a 3GPP Rel-11 dependency that I support going forward. I've read through the draft and have no real comments. However, I find the statement in section 5.10.2 a bit odd .... It would be fair to devote the same amount of processing at the overloaded server to the combination of rejection and processing from a non-participating client as the overloaded server would devote to processing requests from a participating client. This is to ensure that SIP clients that do not support this specification don't receive an unfair advantage over those that do. Personally I would have used a term like "local policy" for such decisions = and not the current guidance given in a the current "fair to devote" fashio= n ... I'd like to see the draft progressing. thanks /atle ________________________________ Atle Monrad 3GPP CT Chairman Standardization and Regulation, Group Function Technology and Portfolio Management Ericsson From: sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Salvatore Loreto Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:35 AM To: sip-overload@ietf.org Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-contro= l-12 this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draf= t thanks a lot Salvatore On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote: Dear WG partecipants, Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Ove= rload Control") http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overl= oad/current/msg00731.html ) has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been d= iscussed and addressed in subsequent versions Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-= overload@ietf.org), or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself). Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or "I've read the document and it has the following issues" are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs. The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th. Thank you, Salvatore as an SoC co-chair. --_000_7D2F7D7ADBA812449F25F4A69922881C066214ESESSMB203ericsso_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day
 
The draft is a 3GPP Rel-11 dependency that I support going f= orward.
 
I've read through the draft and have no real comme= nts.
 
However, I find the statement in section 5.10.2 a bit odd

  .... It would be fair= to devote the same amount
   of processing at the overloaded server to the combination of    rejection and processing from a non-participating client as th= e
   overloaded server would devote to processing requests from a    participating client.  This is to ensure that SIP clients= that do not
   support this specification don't receive an unfair advantage o= ver
   those that do.
Personally I would have used a term like "local policy&= quot; for such decisions and not the current guidance given in a = the current "fair to devote" fashion ...
 
I'd like to see the draft progressing.
 
thanks
/atle

________________________________


Atle Monr= ad
3GPP CT Chairman
Standardization and Regulation,
Group Function Technology and Portfolio Management
Ericsson


&nb= sp;

From: sip-over= load-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Salvatore Loreto
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:35 AM
To: sip-overload@ietf.org
Cc: Volker Hilt
Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload= -control-12

 

this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call

I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback
please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draf= t

thanks a lot
Salvatore

On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote:

Dear WG partecipants, =


Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on
draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol= (SIP) Overload Control")
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt

The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html= )
has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been d= iscussed and addressed in subsequent versions

Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding
document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-overload@ietf.org),
or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself).

Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or=
"I've read the document and it has the following issues"
are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs.


The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th.


Thank you,
Salvatore as an SoC co-chair.

 

--_000_7D2F7D7ADBA812449F25F4A69922881C066214ESESSMB203ericsso_-- From ecnoel@research.att.com Sun Feb 17 14:49:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C6D21F8849 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:49:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8XzHRCx2Fqdu for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pink.research.att.com (mail-pink.research.att.com [192.20.225.111]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8425621F868B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (unknown [135.207.178.10]) by mail-pink.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19130120994; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg2.research.att.com (njfpsrvexg2.research.att.com [135.207.177.29]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AC3E36E0; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from njfpsrvexg2.research.att.com ([fe80::a158:97ea:81b0:43d9]) by njfpsrvexg2.research.att.com ([fe80::a158:97ea:81b0:43d9%14]) with mapi; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:49:06 -0500 From: "NOEL, ERIC (ERIC C)" To: Salvatore Loreto , "sip-overload@ietf.org" Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:49:06 -0500 Thread-Topic: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 Thread-Index: Ac4IKkvhKhhs5fbWS4qQYC7+V29EsAFMIG6n Message-ID: <5EBD159DE88147488A3B1590E09001840353173DCBC2@njfpsrvexg2.research.att.com> References: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com>,<51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:49:08 -0000 Salvatore, I read the document and have a few comments: - Typos: + Section 5.4 page 12, second paragraph "... is larger than the value= stored value, ...." --> "... is larger than the stored value, ..." + Section 6.2 page 18, 7th paragraph, "20% for 1s." --> "20% for 0.5s= " or "oc-validity=3D500" --> "oc-validity=3D1000" - Questions: + Section 4.1 page 6, 4th paragraph, why using SHOULD and not MUST to= describe the client behavior upon receiving a response with the oc paramet= ers filled in. This is in contrast with section 5.5 page 12, first paragrap= h, where a SIP client MUST honor overload control values it receives from d= ownstream neighbors. + Section 4.4 page 8, 4th paragraph, following a sequence number over= flow, the server must reset the oc-seq parameter. Do we incur the risk of h= aving the client ignore all server requests with the new oc-seq until oc-va= lidity expires? Or does the client need to be able to identify when oc-seq = was reset?=20 + Section 7, should there be any mention of draft soc-overload-rate-c= ontrol? =20 Thanks, Eric ________________________________________ From: sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org [sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of Salvatore Loreto [salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:34 AM To: sip-overload@ietf.org Cc: Volker Hilt Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-con= trol-12 this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draf= t thanks a lot Salvatore On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote: Dear WG partecipants, Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Ove= rload Control") http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overl= oad/current/msg00731.html ) has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been d= iscussed and addressed in subsequent versions Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-= overload@ietf.org), or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself). Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or "I've read the document and it has the following issues" are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs. The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th. Thank you, Salvatore as an SoC co-chair. From jgunn6@csc.com Thu Feb 21 14:20:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sip-overload@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288B421E8098; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:20:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.791 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.791 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.193, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q1hYqghb4MNw; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail171.messagelabs.com (mail171.messagelabs.com [216.82.253.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB35F21E8093; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:20:29 -0800 (PST) X-Env-Sender: jgunn6@csc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-171.messagelabs.com!1361485228!17405266!1 X-Originating-IP: [20.137.2.88] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.8.6; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 8379 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 22:20:29 -0000 Received: from amer-mta102.csc.com (HELO amer-mta102.csc.com) (20.137.2.88) by server-7.tower-171.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 22:20:29 -0000 Received: from amer-gw09.amer.csc.com (amer-gw09.amer.csc.com [20.6.39.245]) by amer-mta102.csc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r1LMKRnc029819; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:20:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> References: <51110A56.7030402@ericsson.com> <51189F14.6050405@ericsson.com> To: Salvatore Loreto MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 9BD195B0:FEE31A3A-85257B19:007A01D4; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.2FP4 SHF97 March 26, 2012 From: Janet P Gunn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:20:25 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on AMER-GW09/SRV/CSC(Release 8.5.2FP3 HF204|September 20, 2011) at 02/21/2013 05:15:12 PM, Serialize complete at 02/21/2013 05:15:12 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 007AB82585257B19_=" Cc: sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org, Volker Hilt , "sip-overload@ietf.org" Subject: [sip-overload] Introduction - "This document defines..." Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 X-BeenThere: sip-overload@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP Overload List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:20:31 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007AB82585257B19_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" OK, finally getting to this. In section 1, the last paragraph ("this document defines...") seems to miss the main point, which is a protocol for COMMUNICATING overload information. Therefore, I would suggest changing " This document defines the general behaviour of SIP servers and clients involved in overload control in Section 5. In addition, Section 6 specifies a loss-based overload control scheme. SIP clients and servers conformant to this specification MUST implement the loss-based overload control scheme. They MAY implement other overload control schemes as well." to " This document defines the protocol for communicating overload information between SIP servers and clients, so that clients can reduce the volume of traffic sent to overloaded servers, avoiding congestion collapse, and increasing usefull throughput. Section 4 describes the Via header parameters used for this communication. The general behaviour of SIP servers and clients involved in overload control is described in Section 5. In addition, Section 6 specifies a loss-based overload control scheme. SIP clients and servers conformant to this specification MUST implement the loss-based overload control scheme. They MAY implement other overload control schemes as well." Janet From: Salvatore Loreto To: "sip-overload@ietf.org" Cc: Volker Hilt Date: 02/11/2013 02:35 AM Subject: Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 Sent by: sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draft thanks a lot Salvatore On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote: Dear WG partecipants, Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control") http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html ) has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been discussed and addressed in subsequent versions Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list ( sip-overload@ietf.org), or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself). Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or "I've read the document and it has the following issues" are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs. The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th. Thank you, Salvatore as an SoC co-chair. _______________________________________________ sip-overload mailing list sip-overload@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip-overload --=_alternative 007AB82585257B19_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" OK, finally getting to this.

In section 1, the last paragraph ("this document defines...") seems to miss the main point, which is a protocol for COMMUNICATING overload information.

Therefore, I would suggest changing

 "  This document defines the general behaviour of SIP servers and
   clients involved in overload control in Section 5.  In addition,
   Section 6 specifies a loss-based overload control scheme.  SIP
   clients and servers conformant to this specification MUST implement
   the loss-based overload control scheme.  They MAY implement other
   overload control schemes as well."

to

"   This document defines the protocol for communicating overload
   information between SIP servers and clients, so that clients can reduce
   the volume of traffic sent to overloaded servers, avoiding congestion
   collapse, and increasing usefull throughput. Section 4 describes the
   Via header parameters used for this communication.  The general
   behaviour of SIP servers and clients involved in overload control
  is described in Section 5.  In addition,
   Section 6 specifies a loss-based overload control scheme.  SIP
   clients and servers conformant to this specification MUST implement
   the loss-based overload control scheme.  They MAY implement other
   overload control schemes as well."

Janet



From:        Salvatore Loreto <salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com>
To:        "sip-overload@ietf.org" <sip-overload@ietf.org>
Cc:        Volker Hilt <volker.hilt@alcatel-lucent.com>
Date:        02/11/2013 02:35 AM
Subject:        Re: [sip-overload] WG Last Call for        draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12
Sent by:        sip-overload-bounces@ietf.org



this is just a reminder for this WG Last Call

I haven't seen yet any comment or feedback
please we really need you spend some time to reading and reviewing the draft

thanks a lot
Salvatore

On 2/5/13 3:34 PM, Salvatore Loreto wrote:
Dear WG partecipants,


Volker and I would like to initiate a second 2 weeks WG Last Call on
draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12 (" Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control")
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-12.txt

The first WGLC that we run ( http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sip-overload/current/msg00731.html )
has produced a significant amount of feedback and comments that have been discussed and addressed in subsequent versions

Please send your reviews, as well as expression of support regarding
document readiness for IESG (or not) either to the *soc* mailing list (sip-overload@ietf.org),
or directly to the WG chairs (Murray Kucherawy and myself).

Comments like "I've read the document and it is Ok to publish" or
"I've read the document and it has the following issues"
are useful and would be gratefully accepted by chairs.


The WG LC will end on Friday, February 19th.


Thank you,
Salvatore as an SoC co-chair.


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