From nobody Thu Apr 19 04:21:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipbrandy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipbrandy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D926312D87B for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:21:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ed6rbG7IsOGC for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 135321273B1 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:21:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=ericsson.com; s=mailgw201801; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@ericsson.com; t=1524136875; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=q01I+x60WwG1BbCYIsSNEJyghB3k7nuxvBKxRizNLhw=; b=LcvE3a+O0IXIb/ZpBZyn2GMv6HuFlGvMZsjbZEcD5z+bePJf/dAbx3n5zHdGt2Yg 52rN82/Drqz0zrUrFgF/kjuhw8RKeeXK1UVqAv6vHq9eFAEFh5No7jiV+gBisQht eBrTzn7qcBhIT9QgGGUPy0osmG6XtRBpQKye41n8o6Y=; X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-c69d49c000006561-bb-5ad87baa9bf2 Received: from ESESSHC018.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.72]) by sesbmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id C6.E1.25953.AAB78DA5; Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:21:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.214.138.214] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.74) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:21:13 +0200 From: Gonzalo Camarillo To: Message-ID: <4ac341cd-94dc-6873-94b3-f96a41527a3a@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:21:13 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7h+7q6htRBsv3c1msWHeKyYHRY8mS n0wBjFFcNimpOZllqUX6dglcGc+nrGEq2MZYcWvCdqYGxgmMXYwcHBICJhLrbsR0MXJxCAkc YZTYfGERG4SzllFizvy3rF2MnBxsAhYSW27dZwGxhQV0JGZfPMQEYosISEh8+H0JLM4rYC+x 8udxNhCbRUBV4vKO44wgtqhAjMSPo11QNYISJ2c+YQFZzCygKbF+lz5ImFlAXOLWk/lMELa8 xPa3c5hBbCEBbYnlz1pYJjDyzULSPQuhexaS7llIuhcwsqxiFC1OLU7KTTcy1kstykwuLs7P 08tLLdnECAyzg1t+q+5gvPzG8RCjAAejEg9vS/CNKCHWxLLiytxDjBIczEoivOJnr0cJ8aYk VlalFuXHF5XmpBYfYpTmYFES531ovjlKSCA9sSQ1OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwOjmdTvkufVT4XbV OT6yZZwTzsQ9SlnwgVvky66AGq2advUdeq/9Gl59ymHe5rb75A8X+yvHVzpFvfQ8K51r5dWq NXVV/3XHKWa/Loo/rpK75dPVzHf5+rx9HatZNVbkfzii99J6VkgWz2KhzXUTtKK+fFWUZtgu rX3vsIuJiLNhvI/o2WuVJUosxRmJhlrMRcWJAOfrCr4vAgAA Archived-At: Subject: [Sipbrandy] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipbrandy-osrtp-04 X-BeenThere: sipbrandy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIPBRANDY working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:21:19 -0000 Folks, I would like to start a WGLC on the following draft. This WGLC will end on May 10th: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipbrandy-osrtp-04 Thanks, Gonzalo From nobody Fri Apr 20 00:58:06 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sipbrandy@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sipbrandy@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEC9124D6C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2018 00:58:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.312 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.312 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UfdfXVYyD1-3 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2018 00:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg23.ericsson.net (sessmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BCDD1204DA for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2018 00:58:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=ericsson.com; s=mailgw201801; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@ericsson.com; t=1524211080; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lbRMoyyzg9XD+7pNxSiNSgjEwST529W99/Oai2HSSF8=; b=HFnYPdRi48Kq7aAHvjki85pUOstZero+Y3vi+Ha+VCy4ysou8/Am0WrXwyZ/Ih5m bo7QWeYnyP+/UPROycwnUsv6CV8RCdCLHD0m2f7iR91USrGrBRr25vy+UZQ+09kC KWfVXLuTqyit5eTOoDW0f5v7znIyMvHGqKQIS+wjbL0=; X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-815ff70000003563-9e-5ad99d885505 Received: from ESESSHC011.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.51]) by sessmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 57.50.13667.88D99DA5; Fri, 20 Apr 2018 09:58:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB109.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.34]) by ESESSHC011.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.51]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Fri, 20 Apr 2018 09:58:00 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: "sipbrandy@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Sipbrandy] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipbrandy-osrtp-04 - Christer's review Thread-Index: AQHT2H1MtettfGxkckGZ8W9pjatITQ== Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 07:58:00 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.7.7.170905 x-originating-ip: [131.160.50.130] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <23A010B5E4FCA0438FA36BF9BAAA1A96@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrALMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7sW7H3JtRBqfaLC1WrDvF5MDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujItPdrEUTBSpuH3KrIFxlkAXIyeHhICJxJrH99m6GLk4hASO MEoc/nKUFcJZzCjRvG4bUxcjBwebgIVE9z9tkAYRAV2JySsuMoLYwgJBEj1TdrNBxIMlHvWd ZIGw9SSmf/gNFmcRUJXYNWcaWD2vgLXEudUvwWoYBcQkvp9awwRiMwuIS9x6Mp8J4iABiSV7 zjND2KISLx//YwWxRYFmbjhxmx3kHAkBJYnbG5wgWvUkbkydwgZhW0s03j3NCGFrSyxb+JoZ Yq2gxMmZT1gmMIrMQrJtFpL2WUjaZyFpn4WkfQEj6ypG0eLU4uLcdCNjvdSizOTi4vw8vbzU kk2MwHg4uOW37g7G1a8dDzEKcDAq8fDebLsZJcSaWFZcmXuIUYKDWUmEN8EMKMSbklhZlVqU H19UmpNafIhRmoNFSZxXb9WeKCGB9MSS1OzU1ILUIpgsEwenVANjyq4y1oaPn7XPFnvum30s 89K8qc9NPuztMLx7rXnxGx2xUx0GPJIc82aWHj72PPVfZNYfyY4ja8U6NF6KxlnqR+Xa3Ju6 5ZN9682stV76jdM3rGGNyg253mPrzPzBsP4AK9PTT9sZf3afma98bdVGu4wJjoXH3m5vYI4W 0Xp35fxOr83cp5bVKbEUZyQaajEXFScCAOoSw3mDAgAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Sipbrandy] WGLC: draft-ietf-sipbrandy-osrtp-04 - Christer's review X-BeenThere: sipbrandy@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: SIPBRANDY working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 07:58:05 -0000 Hi, Below is my WGLC review. I base my review based on the assumption that the associated MMUSIC draft is not going to be progressed, and that draft-ietf-sipbrandy-osrtp is the ONLY deliverable related to OSRTP and SDP O/A. Also, some of my comments is repeating what I have said previously, but I include them in my review in order to have everything in one place. GENERAL: -------- QG_1: The draft will be published as an Informational RFC (I know the reason, so no need to discuss that). Because of that, many SDOs will not be able to normatively reference it. So, if such SDO wants to adopt SDP O/A procedures of OSRTP (I know there are SDOs, or at least SDO members, interested in OSRTP), they would have to =B3re-define=B2 the procedures themselves. I wonder whether it would be useful to include some text/guidance regarding that in the document, i.e., recommending that such procedures are based on the procedures in the draft, for interoperability purpose etc? QG_2: There are no BUNDLE considerations. Even though it may seem obvious, I think it would be useful to indicate that the same security selection needs to be applied to all RTP-based m- sections within a BUNDLE group. Section 1: ---------- Q1_1: Shall we really reference individual drafts that will not progress? Couldn=B9t we simply talk about =B3based on previous work and studies done = by Hadriel Kaplan"=20 Section 3: ---------- Q3_1: I don=B9t understand the title of the section. Shouldn=B9t it be =B3S= DP Offer/Answer Procedures=B2? Q3_2: Eventhough the document is Informational, since Section 3 does contain O/A text I think it should be done properly, describing how the offer is generated, how the answer is generated etc. Q3_3: There is no text on subsequent offers. If security has been negotiated in a previous O/A exchange, what profile values etc do I include in subsequent offers? Section 4: ---------- Q4_1: Doesn=B9t the last paragraph belong in the Applicability section? Regards, Christer On 19/04/18 14:21, "Sipbrandy on behalf of Gonzalo Camarillo" wrote: >Folks, > >I would like to start a WGLC on the following draft. This WGLC will >end on May 10th: > >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipbrandy-osrtp-04 > >Thanks, > >Gonzalo > >_______________________________________________ >Sipbrandy mailing list >Sipbrandy@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipbrandy