From nobody Thu May 24 16:50:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA8812E8D7; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:50:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id irydWEixhsAi; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ADC812D80F; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 715BCB828AE; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:50:04 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, slim@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180524235004.715BCB828AE@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 16:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Slim] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8373_on_Negotiating_Human_Language_in_Real-T?= =?utf-8?q?ime_Communications?= X-BeenThere: slim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Selection of Language for Internet Media List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 23:50:20 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8373 Title: Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications Author: R. Gellens Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: May 2018 Mailbox: rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com Pages: 13 Characters: 27727 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-24.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8373 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8373 Users have various human (i.e., natural) language needs, abilities, and preferences regarding spoken, written, and signed languages. This document defines new Session Description Protocol (SDP) media- level attributes so that when establishing interactive communication sessions ("calls"), it is possible to negotiate (i.e., communicate and match) the caller's language and media needs with the capabilities of the called party. This is especially important for emergency calls, because it allows for a call to be handled by a call taker capable of communicating with the user or for a translator or relay operator to be bridged into the call during setup. However, this also applies to non-emergency calls (for example, calls to a company call center). This document describes the need as well as a solution that uses new SDP media attributes. This document is a product of the Selection of Language for Internet Media Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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Fri, 25 May 2018 11:51:25 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1527245491; bh=Pa8VkxsnCLXC+C5ZVX3SYjpKM5mfZE2qH8cAYx0aaJA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version; b=FyttPLS9Voy2PzW9U9FYad3y82nYA/JtLgU1p8pdxt095+xF9fXf/Ckz4qVb37EMh5/tT2WTkKsgsmYxR2ZzD3T7qkksKpnzy1WdDsOC3IyAtX6l/6cDkrk7oPY7MCfMKalyVJpi59U5JQZFvtDIvg1nVTVXotBxpheWN+lqf4I= Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 11:51:25 +0100 (BST) From: William_J_G Overington Reply-To: wjgo_10009@btinternet.com To: rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org, ietf-announce@ietf.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, slim@ietf.org Message-ID: <13297997.18969.1527245485446.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-UID: 47517 X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX X-CP-REPLY-ALL-PATH: INBOX Importance: 3 (Normal) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Client-IP: IPv4[86.168.219.150] Epoch[1527245485398] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Slim] [rfc-dist] RFC 8373 on Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications X-BeenThere: slim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Selection of Language for Internet Media List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 10:51:35 -0000 Hi I am new to all of this and do not know a lot about it, but I was reading RFC 8373 and I noticed something in RFC 8373 to which my own research project seems to relate. As my research project, if its content becomes implemented as part of information technology in the future, may possibly affect section 5.2, I wonder if I may mention my research project here please in the hope that whether or not it relates to section 5.2 of RFC 8373 can be assessed by experts please. Please consider the following document. The webspace is my family webspace. It is a "free when purchasing dial-up internet access" webspace that dates back to 1997. I have been using broadband for many years now and the dial-up internet access facility closed some years ago but I have been allowed to keep the webspace for a small fee each year. It keeps its original name but is now hosted by Plusnet PLC which took over the company that took over the original provider. I mention this as the hosting webspace may be unknown to you. http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/a_completed_publication_about_localizable_sentences_research.pdf The document is 74.13 kilobytes in size. I have for some time considered the possibility of, for research purposes, using the language tag x-y for communication using localizable sentences technology. Thus if a section 5.2 No Language in Common situation arises, an offer of x-y could be made and if both parties to the communication agree then localizable sentences technology could be used to communicate through the language barrier: the scope of the communication might well be limited, but nonetheless could be very helpful in some situations, for example a medical emergency, where meanings such as "What is your name?" and "What is your address?" could be communicated through the language barrier. The nature of localizable sentences technology is to use the Universal Character Set, so a message can include both encoded localizable sentences and plain text, so a reply to asking for a name and an address and so on could mix both localizable sentences, which would be displayed localized; and plain text that would be displayed exactly as it is sent. I would be interested to know your comments please. I am new to replying to an RFC so I have replied to every address in the original message distribution list and also to the author whose name is listed in RFC 8373. I am not sure as to whether that means that this email will go to everybody on the list, or to a moderator, or just to a few people. Yours sincerely William Overington Friday 25 May 2018 ----Original message---- >From : rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Date : 2018/05/25 - 00:50 (GMTDT) To : ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org Cc : slim@ietf.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject : [rfc-dist] RFC 8373 on Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8373 Title: Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications Author: R. Gellens Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: May 2018 Mailbox: rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com Pages: 13 Characters: 27727 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-24.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8373 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8373 Users have various human (i.e., natural) language needs, abilities, and preferences regarding spoken, written, and signed languages. This document defines new Session Description Protocol (SDP) media- level attributes so that when establishing interactive communication sessions ("calls"), it is possible to negotiate (i.e., communicate and match) the caller's language and media needs with the capabilities of the called party. This is especially important for emergency calls, because it allows for a call to be handled by a call taker capable of communicating with the user or for a translator or relay operator to be bridged into the call during setup. However, this also applies to non-emergency calls (for example, calls to a company call center). This document describes the need as well as a solution that uses new SDP media attributes. This document is a product of the Selection of Language for Internet Media Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe, see https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist For searching the RFC series, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/search For downloading RFCs, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/retrieve/bulk Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution. The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC _______________________________________________ rfc-dist mailing list rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist http://www.rfc-editor.org From nobody Thu May 31 15:18:38 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9668712D72F for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:18:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CtG_nKRNkBXr for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DE1612EABB for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 28FA4B8188C; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:18:10 -0700 (PDT) To: rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com, ben@nostrum.com, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, adam@nostrum.com, Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: dan.chiba@oracle.com, slim@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180531221810.28FA4B8188C@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 15:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Slim] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8373 (5374) X-BeenThere: slim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Selection of Language for Internet Media List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 22:18:37 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8373, "Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5374 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Dan Chiba Section: 5.4. Original Text ------------- An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: m=text 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 a=hlang-send:gr a=hlang-recv:gr Corrected Text -------------- An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: m=text 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 a=hlang-send:el a=hlang-recv:el Notes ----- The language tag to represent Greek is "el" per BCP 47. The IANA language subtag registry has the following entry for Greek: Type: language Subtag: el Description: Modern Greek (1453-) Added: 2005-10-16 https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC8373 (draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-24) -------------------------------------- Title : Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications Publication Date : May 2018 Author(s) : R. Gellens Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Selection of Language for Internet Media Area : Applications and Real-Time Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu May 31 15:53:24 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CEC12D883 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:53:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tv-PJ-l_cQND for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turing.pensive.org (turing.pensive.org [99.111.97.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351F912EB21 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 15:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [99.111.97.136] (99.111.97.161) by turing.pensive.org with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9); Thu, 31 May 2018 15:55:09 -0700 From: "Randall Gellens" To: "RFC Errata System" Cc: rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com, ben@nostrum.com, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, adam@nostrum.com, Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com, dan.chiba@oracle.com, slim@ietf.org Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 15:53:14 -0700 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.11.2r5479) Message-ID: <213FC237-28E7-42DA-AEEF-CE5DF8279D95@randy.pensive.org> In-Reply-To: <20180531221810.28FA4B8188C@rfc-editor.org> References: <20180531221810.28FA4B8188C@rfc-editor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Slim] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8373 (5374) X-BeenThere: slim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Selection of Language for Internet Media List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 22:53:22 -0000 This looks valid to me, how embarrassing. Good catch by Dan. --Randall On 31 May 2018, at 15:18, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8373, > "Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5374 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: Dan Chiba > > Section: 5.4. > > Original Text > ------------- > An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: > > m=3Dtext 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 > a=3Dhlang-send:gr > a=3Dhlang-recv:gr > > Corrected Text > -------------- > An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: > > m=3Dtext 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 > a=3Dhlang-send:el > a=3Dhlang-recv:el > > Notes > ----- > The language tag to represent Greek is "el" per BCP 47. > > The IANA language subtag registry has the following entry for Greek: > > Type: language > Subtag: el > Description: Modern Greek (1453-) > Added: 2005-10-16 > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subt= ag-registry > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC8373 (draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-24) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time = > Communications > Publication Date : May 2018 > Author(s) : R. Gellens > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Selection of Language for Internet Media > Area : Applications and Real-Time > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Thu May 31 16:02:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0E412EC4B for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.31 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=oracle.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LCVDSchCGPVh for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 16:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com (aserp2120.oracle.com [141.146.126.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C78B131578 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 16:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w4VN0YEm009479; Thu, 31 May 2018 23:02:28 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=subject : to : cc : references : from : message-id : date : mime-version : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2017-10-26; bh=cyUeV1X2/lWNkF7g2jwxrjNOYPdShOrQqakJRCAmrjI=; b=D0nEsXqOnnC/m044vP77uIfxAEP0p6PQzsxUIHl4aBeOCiN2NScbg9gXgj2vZK7+us+t M2iaLpqhCNwyhY2sleY7IQZQ2IDD0PgoLTDk7RG+CzctaF7VXCcIXWT5A3z5meyY6U8p t9RfJ4neEWkR/xdke1hFPw+hreJsWNvsW4TrSdNsmuXIvYkegcAw5PGjeGp7/2sL+Kwp Q+hZFaiJLA7zm89sE48KeDM1lO1Ebtr5qUoPEKaZOZSQz2ZOmDSoOG4O+KQhP7wK57Ub Z5o/cxKV/j1Je5Q/UWVe13hiPFSw0Raa30tXaDDc02zWHcgaRcWWw7OGCBQ8oDJYj7iU tA== Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2janje16mc-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 31 May 2018 23:02:28 +0000 Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w4VN2Rve013960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 31 May 2018 23:02:27 GMT Received: from abhmp0016.oracle.com (abhmp0016.oracle.com [141.146.116.22]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w4VN2QTM017133; Thu, 31 May 2018 23:02:26 GMT Received: from [10.159.247.168] (/10.159.247.168) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 31 May 2018 16:02:26 -0700 To: Randall Gellens , RFC Errata System Cc: rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com, ben@nostrum.com, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, adam@nostrum.com, Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com, slim@ietf.org References: <20180531221810.28FA4B8188C@rfc-editor.org> <213FC237-28E7-42DA-AEEF-CE5DF8279D95@randy.pensive.org> From: Dan Chiba Organization: Oracle Corporation Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 16:02:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <213FC237-28E7-42DA-AEEF-CE5DF8279D95@randy.pensive.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8910 signatures=668702 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1805220000 definitions=main-1805310254 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Slim] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8373 (5374) X-BeenThere: slim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Selection of Language for Internet Media List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 23:02:38 -0000 Hi Randall, I actually noticed that similarly it says "sp" for Spanish but it should be "es". The editor site doesn't seem to allow editing an errata. Can we update it somehow to include Spanish? I could certainly file another but feel it better to update this if possible. Could you or someone on the list advise? Regards, Dan On 5/31/2018 3:53 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > This looks valid to me, how embarrassing.  Good catch by Dan. > > --Randall > > On 31 May 2018, at 15:18, RFC Errata System wrote: > >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8373, >> "Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rfc-2Deditor.org_errata_eid5374&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=0VbdMrGQGf-tlfWn9X-adLq4-dkTKBPvXTJrOctZN5M&m=Jh1CWX2s1wpYKZbSAH7Jl6e3tJ8-8De8dQR5JjrQqYI&s=1WwYM3rEOeZ8RLY4cfwTxzxrciLwwnPq3M1_L6wyNg4&e= >> >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: Dan Chiba >> >> Section: 5.4. >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >>    An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: >> >>       m=text 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 >>       a=hlang-send:gr >>       a=hlang-recv:gr >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >>    An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: >> >>       m=text 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 >>       a=hlang-send:el >>       a=hlang-recv:el >> >> Notes >> ----- >> The language tag to represent Greek is "el" per BCP 47. >> >> The IANA language subtag registry has the following entry for Greek: >> >> Type: language >> Subtag: el >> Description: Modern Greek (1453-) >> Added: 2005-10-16 >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iana.org_assignments_language-2Dsubtag-2Dregistry_language-2Dsubtag-2Dregistry&d=DwIFAg&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=0VbdMrGQGf-tlfWn9X-adLq4-dkTKBPvXTJrOctZN5M&m=Jh1CWX2s1wpYKZbSAH7Jl6e3tJ8-8De8dQR5JjrQqYI&s=ZpcAGWHddj413wdsYPucWGP2xvxk6yvhV_eSt5Vv9Y8&e= >> >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC8373 (draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-24) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title               : Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time >> Communications >> Publication Date    : May 2018 >> Author(s)           : R. Gellens >> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD >> Source              : Selection of Language for Internet Media >> Area                : Applications and Real-Time >> Stream              : IETF >> Verifying Party     : IESG > > From nobody Thu May 31 20:51:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: slim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C91126D74 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:51:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fastmail.fm header.b=IH68N0l7; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=F0fcpzUN Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q8Qpi1F6ZlU3 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6543126CF6 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF8F21AD4; Thu, 31 May 2018 23:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 31 May 2018 23:51:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=SyCwNQjkNqyY94LAt6NHtGSRyqAeb U6dfGHg81NGySQ=; b=IH68N0l7U9YBQQgzzdkTw0FXDrYEVUnmQNjFEMwkJ5lgc 82Rtrf0GZbIh2uvJJiVT83Xv9FvwNZO3RoSIJxKpk+iLS64Ntcby3csHjA6IZrY5 ce+fE9eojU/c6pLoTiimqD4pEATjyO+jiWtR27bmuRyejI5etzHUhKgBVVE8soJY g3dlg2a5vi6LAu9mO1SiZZJMzC5ajkLC0ZW5B32LD9sqJBKRRI8BSBSVjxC/jU1U tmV2hD1OdaoZBiokKbGDAM8q7hRkiLPuVyn1rmWhLU9VHKxMa/o1XaAddM2+Y9W7 wgSziHZGBwOwAzW27QyGjQoHqjyQilpjrkEneuarQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=SyCwNQ jkNqyY94LAt6NHtGSRyqAebU6dfGHg81NGySQ=; b=F0fcpzUNJyJBIK3i5teJwN I79QkYuBWit402SkqUNOT4H2fNbARXpFRg4nxs5iJE6GRP0/TL1Wh1aoJlUjBziG //Lf85i6CIVq1yJGXGa+wuGgQV2kB0rgbeZHBDnpVRdPSFLbB/2WBiRcbTsgKZZy IPe796tb8mb9wvn/9ofE9y04zsCU/TmDC876k3XAl1o6YHIhLY/KxJMp+yxKCIb4 Q+6fK0WasUr2OxyF30kdDo5zzeZWCJeFBnH7dPrF2YWTm9VU3kaInvkawArue7a9 AjXPXaWeW0w8LGCLLdhyrol2RCPPzdulaFBeEJLYP8g60EuGC5kaQ9RcdQ+OPg6Q == X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Received: from [192.168.1.75] (ppp158-255-168-127.pppoe.spdop.ru [158.255.168.127]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D525210262; Thu, 31 May 2018 23:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Alexey Melnikov X-Mailer: iPad Mail (14F89) In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 07:04:32 +0300 Cc: Randall Gellens , RFC Errata System , rg+ietf@coretechnologyconsulting.com, ben@nostrum.com, adam@nostrum.com, Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com, slim@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <22AD985A-249B-47AB-B171-14A41AA9B50B@fastmail.fm> References: <20180531221810.28FA4B8188C@rfc-editor.org> <213FC237-28E7-42DA-AEEF-CE5DF8279D95@randy.pensive.org> To: Dan Chiba Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Slim] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8373 (5374) X-BeenThere: slim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Selection of Language for Internet Media List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 03:51:52 -0000 Hi Dan, > On 1 Jun 2018, at 02:02, Dan Chiba wrote: >=20 > Hi Randall, >=20 > I actually noticed that similarly it says "sp" for Spanish but it should b= e "es". >=20 > The editor site doesn't seem to allow editing an errata. Can we update it s= omehow to include Spanish? > I could certainly file another but feel it better to update this if possib= le. Could you or someone on the list advise? Just send the updated Erratum here, I will edit it. (I have permission to do= that as an Area Director). > Regards, > Dan >=20 >> On 5/31/2018 3:53 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: >> This looks valid to me, how embarrassing. Good catch by Dan. >>=20 >> --Randall >>=20 >>> On 31 May 2018, at 15:18, RFC Errata System wrote: >>>=20 >>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8373, >>> "Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communications". >>>=20 >>> -------------------------------------- >>> You may review the report below and at: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.rfc-2Deditor.o= rg_errata_eid5374&d=3DDwIFAg&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE= &r=3D0VbdMrGQGf-tlfWn9X-adLq4-dkTKBPvXTJrOctZN5M&m=3DJh1CWX2s1wpYKZbSAH7Jl6e= 3tJ8-8De8dQR5JjrQqYI&s=3D1WwYM3rEOeZ8RLY4cfwTxzxrciLwwnPq3M1_L6wyNg4&e=3D=20= >>>=20 >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Type: Technical >>> Reported by: Dan Chiba >>>=20 >>> Section: 5.4. >>>=20 >>> Original Text >>> ------------- >>> An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: >>>=20 >>> m=3Dtext 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 >>> a=3Dhlang-send:gr >>> a=3Dhlang-recv:gr >>>=20 >>> Corrected Text >>> -------------- >>> An offer or answer indicating written Greek both ways: >>>=20 >>> m=3Dtext 45020 RTP/AVP 103 104 >>> a=3Dhlang-send:el >>> a=3Dhlang-recv:el >>>=20 >>> Notes >>> ----- >>> The language tag to represent Greek is "el" per BCP 47. >>>=20 >>> The IANA language subtag registry has the following entry for Greek: >>>=20 >>> Type: language >>> Subtag: el >>> Description: Modern Greek (1453-) >>> Added: 2005-10-16 >>>=20 >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.iana.org_assi= gnments_language-2Dsubtag-2Dregistry_language-2Dsubtag-2Dregistry&d=3DDwIFAg= &c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3D0VbdMrGQGf-tlfWn9X-adLq= 4-dkTKBPvXTJrOctZN5M&m=3DJh1CWX2s1wpYKZbSAH7Jl6e3tJ8-8De8dQR5JjrQqYI&s=3DZpc= AGWHddj413wdsYPucWGP2xvxk6yvhV_eSt5Vv9Y8&e=3D=20 >>>=20 >>> Instructions: >>> ------------- >>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>>=20 >>> -------------------------------------- >>> RFC8373 (draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-24) >>> -------------------------------------- >>> Title : Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time Communicat= ions >>> Publication Date : May 2018 >>> Author(s) : R. Gellens >>> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >>> Source : Selection of Language for Internet Media >>> Area : Applications and Real-Time >>> Stream : IETF >>> Verifying Party : IESG >>=20 >>=20 >=20