From fred@cisco.com Tue Feb 8 15:35:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: smartpower-interest@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: smartpower-interest@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BAB3A6836; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:35:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lm+B5eAGTMoT; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBDB3A67AD; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEALBhUU2rRN+J/2dsb2JhbAClQnOhVps6hVoEhHuGb4Mv Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2011 23:35:26 +0000 Received: from stealth-10-32-244-222.cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-222.cisco.com [10.32.244.222]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p18NZJ1v013067; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:35:24 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by stealth-10-32-244-222.cisco.com (PGP Universal service); Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:35:24 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by stealth-10-32-244-222.cisco.com on Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:35:24 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 15:35:09 -0800 Message-Id: <004874B5-D64F-44E6-A665-7DE28C60AEA5@cisco.com> References: To: "Su, David H." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: smartpower-interest@ietf.org, SGIP-SGAC Subject: Re: [smartpower-interest] IETF activities on Smart Grid X-BeenThere: smartpower-interest@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Smart Power Interest List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:35:19 -0000 On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:59 AM, Su, David H. wrote: > Fred, > As part of ITU-T Focused Group on Smart Grid activities, we would like = to have a short paragraph describing SDOs smart grid activities. I am = supposed to look for input from IETF, could you help me on this. >=20 > I knew at the beginning there is a group established directly under = Russ, and recently there is a new area (?) setup on something related to = smart grid. It looks like there are lots of things going on there. I'm copying the architecture list and the IETF's Smart Power "Interest" = list, as they also periodically wonder about these things. This is a = roll-up of IETF activity related to the Smart Grid. There may be other = efforts I'm not aware of. There continues to be a directorate, and I chair it. Since the actual = work is done in working groups and this is primarily a discussion body, = there isn't much to report from the directorate itself. In the IETF - we have four working groups that have related topics: = 6lowpan, roll, core, and eman. We also have a variety of smaller efforts = that mention a relationship to the Smart Grid or sensor networks in = general. The charters for these working groups are respectively: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6lowpan/charter/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/core/charter/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/eman/charter/ 6lowpan and roll are in a semi-quiescent phase, as their protocols are = complete and they are working on deployment issues. Core is actively = developing a model for what you might call HTTP/UDP, which some people = think may be useful in the HAN. My personal opinion there is that = current HAN models use various protocols on TCP without significant = problems. Eman is a newly chartered effort. Per its charter, "The basic = objective of energy management is operating communication networks and = other equipments with a minimal amount of energy while still providing = sufficient performance to meet service level objectives." This is a = little different than operating the electrical grid, but it may have = applicability in the HAN or AMI. Note that none of these are being developed specifically for the Smart = Grid. They are if anything targeted at sensor networks, of which parts = of the Smart Grid are examples. However, they are intended to be useful = to the Smart Grid. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5548.txt 5548 Routing Requirements for Urban Low-Power and Lossy Networks. M. Dohler, Ed., T. Watteyne, Ed., T. Winter, Ed., D. Barthel, Ed.. May 2009. (Format: TXT=3D47759 bytes) (Status: INFORMATIONAL) This is a requirements document; it describes the problem that the RPL = protocol, developed by the roll working group, is intended to solve. Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines Document: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines "Guidelines for Using IPv6 Transition Mechanisms during IPv6 Deployment", Jari Arkko, Fred Baker, 27-Dec-10, This is a general document on how to convert a network from IPv4-only to = IPv4+IPv6, and eventually to IPv6-only. It is intended as guidance for = networks that are part of the Internet. Its comment on the Smart Grid is = "specialized machine- to-machine networks that communicate only to = designated servers, such as Smart Grids, can easily be deployed as = IPv6-only networks." Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-baker-ietf-core Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-baker-ietf-core "Internet Protocols for the Smart Grid", Fred Baker, Dave Meyer, 11-Nov-10 This document was developed in response to a request from NIST and = subsequently from the SGIP. It is currently in its IESG review cycle = prior to publication. Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-c1222-transport-over-ip Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-c1222-transport-over-ip "ANSI C12.22, IEEE 1703 and MC12.22 Transport Over IP", Avygdor Moise, Jonathan Brodkin, 10-Jan-11 This is an informational document (not a standard), describing how to = tunnel an ANSI C12.22 network over an IP network. It s in the RFC = Editor's queue. Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-campagna-suitee Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campagna-suitee "A Cryptographic Suite for Embedded Systems (SuiteE)", Matthew = Campagna, Greg Zaverucha, 18-Oct-10 This is a proprietary protocol suite that may be useful in cases where = NIST-approved encryption is not strictly necessary. I started to go through and try to summarize the state of all of the = following. Since this has been sitting on my desktop for over 24 hours = now, I figure it's going to take longer than you need it to. So - the = following are on the table and mention applicability to the Smart Grid. = If you have specific questions, you can query the authors of any given = draft by sending an email to @tools.ietf.org for example, draft-claise-energy-monitoring-mib@tools.ietf.org include = Claise, Chandramouli, Parello, and Schoening. Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-energy-monitoring-mib Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-energy-monitoring-mib "Power and Energy Monitoring MIB", Benoit Claise, Mouli Chandramouli, John Parello, Brad Schoening, 19-Oct-10, Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-power-management-arch Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-power-management-arch "Power Management Architecture", Benoit Claise, John Parello, Brad Schoening, 22-Oct-10 Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lowpan-usecases Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6lowpan-usecases "Design and Application Spaces for 6LoWPANs", Eunsook Kim, Dominik Kaspar, Nicolas Chevrollier, JP Vasseur, 18-Jan-11, Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eman-energy-aware-mib Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eman-energy-aware-mib "Energy-aware Networks and Devices MIB", Benoit Claise, John Parello, 22-Dec-10 Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eman-framework Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eman-framework "Energy Management Framework", Benoit Claise, John Parello, Brad Schoening, 22-Dec-10 Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-terminology Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-terminology "Terminology in Low power And Lossy Networks", JP Vasseur, 20-Sep-10, Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lee-iot-problem-statement Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-iot-problem-statement "The Internet of Things - Concept and Problem Statement", Ning Kong, Noel Crespi, Gyu Myoung Lee, JungSoo Park, 18-Oct-10, Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mrw-nat66 Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mrw-nat66 "IPv6-to-IPv6 Network Prefix Translation", Margaret Wasserman, Fred Baker, 28-Jan-11 Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oflynn-core-bootstrapping Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oflynn-core-bootstrapping "Security Bootstrapping of Resource-Constrained Devices", Behcet Sarikaya, Yoshihiro Ohba, Zhen Cao, Robert Cragie, 7-Nov-10, Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-oreirdan-mody-bot-remediation Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oreirdan-mody-bot-remediation "Recommendations for the Remediation of Bots in ISP Networks", Jason Livingood, Nirmal Mody, Comcast Communications, 2-Dec-10, Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-core-sbootstrapping Document: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-core-sbootstrapping "Security Bootstrapping of Resource-Constrained Devices", Behcet Sarikaya, Yoshihiro Ohba, Zhen Cao, Robert Cragie, 24-Jan-11, Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tychon-eman-applicability-statement Document: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tychon-eman-applicability-statement "Energy Management (EMAN) Applicability Statement", Emmanuel Tychon, Matthew Laherty, Brad Schoening, 16-Oct-10,