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Hi!
At first a happy new year to all!

I need a clarification to following sentence from RFC 2630,
section 11.4, Countersignature:
"The countersignature attribute must be an unsigned attribute; it
 cannot be a signed attribute, an authenticated attribute, or an
 unauthenticated attribute."

What is the difference between: 
a) signed attribute <-> authenticated attribute
b) unsigned attribute <-> unauthenticated attribute
to relate to CMS?

Where is located a (un)authenticated attribute in an
signed-data CMS?
I thought, it exist as (un)signed attribute in the SignerInfo,
or is this complete beside them?


Thanks in advance
with kind regards
-- 
Mors certa, hora incerta. In dubio pro mille.
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Bernd Matthes                   Celo Communications GmbH
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Dipl.-Ing.(FH)                  http://www.celocom.com      
  f. technische Informatik      mailto:mainbug@celocom.de   
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> Hi!
> 
> I would like to know where and how I can test the compatibility of my
> S/MIME 2 implementation.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Harel Moshe
> Cylink Corporation
> mailto:moshe@arx.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Bernd Matthes wrote:
> I need a clarification to following sentence from RFC 2630,
> section 11.4, Countersignature:
[snipped]

Hi!

Is cleared. 
Thanks to Jim Schaad ( mailto:jimsch@exmsft.com ).

He wrote:
>Authenticated and Unauthenticated attributes occur in the AuthenticatedData
>structure (section 9).  The statement is just being made that a counter
>signature is not present in the AuthenticatedData structure.


-- 
Mors certa, hora incerta. In dubio pro mille.
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Bernd Matthes                   Celo Communications GmbH
Senior Software Engineer    	Weissenfelser Strasse 46a   
Nachrichtentechniker            D 06217 Merseburg           
Dipl.-Ing.(FH)                  http://www.celocom.com      
  f. technische Informatik      mailto:mainbug@celocom.de   
http://www.worldbug.de          Tel.: +49 3461/3318-0       
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Harel,

To ensure that the S/MIME Freeware Library is compatible with S/MIME v2
products we exchanged signed and encrypted S/MIME v2 messages with the
Microsoft (MS) Internet Explorer Outlook Express v4.01 and Netscape
Communicator 4.X S/MIME v2 products.  If you would like more details
regarding how we performed this testing, then please let me know.   

===========================================
John Pawling, John.Pawling@GetronicsGov.com
Getronics Government Solutions, LLC
===========================================


-----Original Message-----
From: Moshe Harel [mailto:moshe@arx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:56 AM
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> Hi!
> 
> I would like to know where and how I can test the compatibility of my
> S/MIME 2 implementation.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Harel Moshe
> Cylink Corporation
> mailto:moshe@arx.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Please issue an IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-smime-compression-03.txt
for consideration as a PROPOSED Standard. It is the product of the
SMIME WG.  I have completed my review. Thanks.

                        -Jeff

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--NextPart

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Implementing Company Classification Policy with the 
                          S/MIME Security Label
	Author(s)	: W. Nicolls
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt
	Pages		: 
	Date		: 05-Jan-01
	
This document discusses how company security policy for data classification can be mapped to the S/MIME security label.  Actual policies from 3 companies are used to provide worked examples.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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<html>
S/MIME WG Members:<br>
<br>
The Security Label document is ready for S/MIME WG Last Call.&nbsp; The
intent is for this document to be published as an Informational
RFC.&nbsp; S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 23 January 2001.<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Title<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>:
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the S/MIME Security Label<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Author(s)<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>:
W. Nicolls<br>
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draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt<br>
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05-Jan-01<br>
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</font>Russ </html>



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The IESG has received a request from the S/MIME Mail Security Working
Group to consider Compressed Data Content Type for S/MIME
<draft-ietf-smime-compression-03.txt> as a Proposed Standard.

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by January 22, 2001.

Files can be obtained via
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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is
the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't
know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung




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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is

the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't

know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung





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Hello All,

In the S/MIME signed message with MS Outlook, there are 5 signed
attribues.

Each attribute has Object Identifier and it is defined PKCS #9 v2.0,
but  one attribute which has
{1 3 6 1 4 1 311 16 4} as OID is not defined anywhere.

What does this OID means ?

Thank you.

Chung




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-----Original Message-----
From: Chung, KwonSung [mailto:kschung@bcqre.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:22 AM
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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is

the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't

know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung




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Bill & Tim:

I have completed my WG Last Call review, and I have a few comments.  I have 
divided them into two categories: technical and editorial.  In my view, the 
technical comments must be addressed.  On the other hand, the editorial 
comments can be accepted or rejected by you.


TECHNICAL

I am concerned with the term "domain component."  It could easily be 
confused with the domainComponent attribute, as defined in RFC 2247.  The 
domainComponent naming attribute is used to represent DNS names as X.500 
distinguished names.  Is there another term that avoids this potential 
confusion.  Perhaps some text can be taken from RFC 1422, where the name 
subordination concept is discussed.

I would like to see the discussion in section 3.1.1 and 4.1 include X.500 
distinguished names that include the domainComponent naming attribute, as 
defined in RFC 2247.  For example:
	cn="Peter Yee", dc=hq, dc=spyrus, dc=com

The id-aa-signatureType OID was assigned from the S/MIME WG arc.  However, 
id-aa-sigtype-domain-sig, id-aa-sigtype-add-attrib-sig, and 
id-aa-sigtype-review were not assigned.  Has any implementor used the 
values listed in the draft?  I would prefer to assign values that are not 
subordinate to the assigned attributes arc; they would be shorter.

I cannot parse the following sentence (from section 3.1.2).  Since "MUST" 
appears twice, the sentence is obviously very important.  Please reword it.

    All signature types, except the originator type, MUST encapsulate other
    signature types specified in this document MUST encapsulate other
    signatures.

The specification relies on several well-known names (such as 
domain-confidentiality-authority).  These well-known names are indicators 
that unusual processing is allowed.  For example, when I fetch a 
certificate from a directory for Bill Ottaway, and I get a certificate 
containing a Diffie-Hellman key bound to the subject name 
cn=domain-confidentiality-authority, ou=dera, o=mod, c=uk, I am expected to 
consider the name acceptable.  I generated an encrypted message using the 
Diffie-Hellman key expecting that a proxy will decrypt the message and 
share it only with Bill.  So, there is clearly some security consideration 
text needed.  Organizations must take care with these well-known names, 
even if they do not implement DOMSEC.  If I can get a certificate 
associated with domain-confidentiality-authority@spyrus.com, then I might 
be able to read messages that a DOMSEC client intended for others.


EDITORIAL

Please change "domain to domain" to "domain-to-domain."  I think that this 
will improve readability, especially in sentences where domain-to-domain, 
individual-to-domain, and domain-to-individual concepts are all 
discussed.  You already use "end-to-end" and "desktop-to-desktop" in the 
document.  I guess that this is a request for consistency as well.

Please change "individual to domain" to individual-to-domain."

Please change "domain to individual" to "domain-to-individual."

Sometimes you say "Domain signature," and other times you say "domain 
signature."  Please pick one spelling and use it throughout the document.

Please change "(re-)encrypted" to "encrypted (or re-encrypted)."

I find the term "DOMSEC signature" confusing.  It is only used in two 
paragraphs of section 3.  Perhaps those paragraphs can be reworded to avoid 
this term.

In my opinion, the OIDs in section 3.1.2 would be easier to read id 
presented this way:

    -- domain signature
    id-xxx-domain-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 2 }

    -- additional attributes signature
    id-xxx-add-attrib-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 3}

    -- review signature
    id-xxx-review OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 4}

In section 4.2, you discuss a "directory."  When the concept is first 
introduced, please say "a X.500 or LDAP directory may be used."


Happy New Year,
   Russ 



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Chung,
 
In both cases, these are signed attributes.  The IETF S/MIME working group
decided that it was important that the encapsulated content type and the
information identifying the signer's certificate(s) be cryptographically
bound to the digital signature of the RFC 2630 SignedData object.  RFC 2634
provides a detailed discussion regarding the purpose of the
signingCertificate signed attribute.

===========================================
John Pawling, John.Pawling@GetronicsGov.com
Getronics Government Solutions, LLC
===========================================


-----Original Message-----
From: Chung, KwonSung [mailto:kschung@bcqre.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:42 AM
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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is
the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't
know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung



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Hi Russ,

Comments inline.

Bill.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org
> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Russ Housley
> Sent: 09 January 2001 15:25
> To: ietf-smime@imc.org
> Subject: Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-domsec-07.txt
>
>
> Bill & Tim:
>
> I have completed my WG Last Call review, and I have a few
> comments.  I have
> divided them into two categories: technical and editorial.  In my
> view, the
> technical comments must be addressed.  On the other hand, the editorial
> comments can be accepted or rejected by you.
>
>
> TECHNICAL
>
> I am concerned with the term "domain component."  It could easily be
> confused with the domainComponent attribute, as defined in RFC 2247.  The
> domainComponent naming attribute is used to represent DNS names as X.500
> distinguished names.  Is there another term that avoids this potential
> confusion.  Perhaps some text can be taken from RFC 1422, where the name
> subordination concept is discussed.

Under consideration.


> I would like to see the discussion in section 3.1.1 and 4.1 include X.500
> distinguished names that include the domainComponent naming attribute, as
> defined in RFC 2247.  For example:
> 	cn="Peter Yee", dc=hq, dc=spyrus, dc=com
>

Under consideration. I don't see a problem.

> The id-aa-signatureType OID was assigned from the S/MIME WG arc.
> However,
> id-aa-sigtype-domain-sig, id-aa-sigtype-add-attrib-sig, and
> id-aa-sigtype-review were not assigned.  Has any implementor used the
> values listed in the draft?  I would prefer to assign values that are not
> subordinate to the assigned attributes arc; they would be shorter.
>

Fine. Can you give me a new number?

> I cannot parse the following sentence (from section 3.1.2).  Since "MUST"
> appears twice, the sentence is obviously very important.  Please
> reword it.
>
>     All signature types, except the originator type, MUST
> encapsulate other
>     signature types specified in this document MUST encapsulate other
>     signatures.
>

Have changed to the paragraph to :-

All signature types, except the originator type, MUST encapsulate other
signatures. Note a DOMSEC defined signature could be encapsulating an
empty signature as defined in section 3.


> The specification relies on several well-known names (such as
> domain-confidentiality-authority).  These well-known names are indicators
> that unusual processing is allowed.  For example, when I fetch a
> certificate from a directory for Bill Ottaway, and I get a certificate
> containing a Diffie-Hellman key bound to the subject name
> cn=domain-confidentiality-authority, ou=dera, o=mod, c=uk, I am
> expected to
> consider the name acceptable.  I generated an encrypted message using the
> Diffie-Hellman key expecting that a proxy will decrypt the message and
> share it only with Bill.  So, there is clearly some security
> consideration
> text needed.  Organizations must take care with these well-known names,
> even if they do not implement DOMSEC.  If I can get a certificate
> associated with domain-confidentiality-authority@spyrus.com, then I might
> be able to read messages that a DOMSEC client intended for others.
>

I agree.

> EDITORIAL
>
> Please change "domain to domain" to "domain-to-domain."  I think
> that this
> will improve readability, especially in sentences where domain-to-domain,
> individual-to-domain, and domain-to-individual concepts are all
> discussed.  You already use "end-to-end" and "desktop-to-desktop" in the
> document.  I guess that this is a request for consistency as well.

Done.

> Please change "individual to domain" to individual-to-domain."

Done.

> Please change "domain to individual" to "domain-to-individual."

Done.

> Sometimes you say "Domain signature," and other times you say "domain
> signature."  Please pick one spelling and use it throughout the document.
>

Done.

> Please change "(re-)encrypted" to "encrypted (or re-encrypted)."
>

Done.

> I find the term "DOMSEC signature" confusing.  It is only used in two
> paragraphs of section 3.  Perhaps those paragraphs can be
> reworded to avoid
> this term.

Have changed to DOMSEC defined signature. Is that better?

>
> In my opinion, the OIDs in section 3.1.2 would be easier to read id
> presented this way:
>
>     -- domain signature
>     id-xxx-domain-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 2 }
>
>     -- additional attributes signature
>     id-xxx-add-attrib-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 3}
>
>     -- review signature
>     id-xxx-review OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 4}
>

Okay. Awaiting new arc.


> In section 4.2, you discuss a "directory."  When the concept is first
> introduced, please say "a X.500 or LDAP directory may be used."
>
>

Done.

> Happy New Year,
>    Russ
>



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All,

My question is concerning the CMS authenticated data type.

RFC2104 allows the HMAC key to be of any length. If this is the case, then 
the KEKRecipientInfo can not be used to transfer the Recipient Info unless 
the length of the authentication key matches that of a Triple-DES or RC2 
Key as this is required by the Key Wrap Algorithms.

Thanks,
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Vamsi:

RFC 2630 includes details for key management of RC2 keys and 3DES keys.  If 
you want to manage a different key, then you need to specify that 
algorithm.  I think all of the fields that you need are present, right?

Russ

At 04:47 PM 1/12/2001 -0500, Vamsi Motukuru wrote:

>All,
>
>My question is concerning the CMS authenticated data type.
>
>RFC2104 allows the HMAC key to be of any length. If this is the case, then 
>the KEKRecipientInfo can not be used to transfer the Recipient Info unless 
>the length of the authentication key matches that of a Triple-DES or RC2 
>Key as this is required by the Key Wrap Algorithms.
>
>Thanks,
>  Vamsi
>



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Russ,

Thanks for the clarification.

The RecipientInfo structure definition needs no changes to support my 
requirements.

Vamsi

At 05:15 PM 1/12/01 -0500, Russ Housley wrote:
>Vamsi:
>
>RFC 2630 includes details for key management of RC2 keys and 3DES 
>keys.  If you want to manage a different key, then you need to specify 
>that algorithm.  I think all of the fields that you need are present, right?
>
>Russ
>
>At 04:47 PM 1/12/2001 -0500, Vamsi Motukuru wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>My question is concerning the CMS authenticated data type.
>>
>>RFC2104 allows the HMAC key to be of any length. If this is the case, 
>>then the KEKRecipientInfo can not be used to transfer the Recipient Info 
>>unless the length of the authentication key matches that of a Triple-DES 
>>or RC2 Key as this is required by the Key Wrap Algorithms.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>  Vamsi
>



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I have one minor comment.

To be consistant with all of the other drafts coming out with
SMimeCapability values, I would like to see the following text added to the
end of Section 2.

The SMIMECapability SEQUENCE representing the ability to process compressed
content MUST be DER-encoded as the following hexadecimal string:
       30 0D 06 0B 2A 86 48 86 F7 0D 01 09 10 01 09.


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Subject: Last Call: Compressed Data Content Type for S/MIME to Proposed
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The IESG has received a request from the S/MIME Mail Security Working
Group to consider Compressed Data Content Type for S/MIME
<draft-ietf-smime-compression-03.txt> as a Proposed Standard.

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by January 22, 2001.

Files can be obtained via
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"Jim Schaad" <jimsch5@home.com> writes:
 
>I have one minor comment.
>
>To be consistant with all of the other drafts coming out with
>SMimeCapability values, I would like to see the following text added to the
>end of Section 2.
>
>The SMIMECapability SEQUENCE representing the ability to process compressed
>content MUST be DER-encoded as the following hexadecimal string:
>       30 0D 06 0B 2A 86 48 86 F7 0D 01 09 10 01 09.
 
Someone else made that comment as well earlier on (or was it you, I can't 
remember?).  I can't imagine why you'd need that, it's a completely redundant 
comment, if you want to know how to DER encode something, see the DER.  By 
that logic every new standard would have to contain dozens (or in the case of 
something like son-of-2459, hundreds) of extra lines of text specifying the 
DER encoding of each element.  
 
Was there some historical reason why this was included originally and then 
everyone copied it without knowing why (I smell a vendor-specific bugfix/hack)?
 
Peter.



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This is to some degree redunant information.  The reason that I want it
included is simply because it is stated that a binary comparison is used for
SMIME Capability rather than decoding and comparing.  Puting the actual
bytes into the document means there is no possiblity to get this wrong when
doing this binary compare.

jim

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"Jim Schaad" <jimsch5@home.com> writes:

>I have one minor comment.
>
>To be consistant with all of the other drafts coming out with
>SMimeCapability values, I would like to see the following text added to the
>end of Section 2.
>
>The SMIMECapability SEQUENCE representing the ability to process compressed
>content MUST be DER-encoded as the following hexadecimal string:
>       30 0D 06 0B 2A 86 48 86 F7 0D 01 09 10 01 09.

Someone else made that comment as well earlier on (or was it you, I can't
remember?).  I can't imagine why you'd need that, it's a completely
redundant
comment, if you want to know how to DER encode something, see the DER.  By
that logic every new standard would have to contain dozens (or in the case
of
something like son-of-2459, hundreds) of extra lines of text specifying the
DER encoding of each element.

Was there some historical reason why this was included originally and then
everyone copied it without knowing why (I smell a vendor-specific
bugfix/hack)?

Peter.




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The authors of this document promised to post -03 immediately following the 
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closing the Working Group Last Call.  I will make a new Working Group Last 
Call announcement when the document is made available.

Sorry for any confusion.  In the future, I will not make a Last Call 
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Russ

At 07:17 PM 12/14/2000 -0500, Russ Housley wrote:
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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Electronic Signature Formats for long term electronic 
                          signatures
	Author(s)	: D. Pinkas, J. Ross, N. Pope
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-esformats-03.txt
	Pages		: 80
	Date		: 19-Jan-01
	
The informational RFC defines the format of an electronic signature 
that can remain valid over long periods. This includes evidence as to 
its validity even if the signer or verifying party later attempts to 
deny (i.e. repudiates, see [ISONR]) the validity of the signature.
The format can be considered as an extension to RFC 2630 [CMS] and RFC 
2634 [ESS], where, when appropriate additional signed and unsigned 
attributes have been defined.
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S/MIME WG Members:

The Electronic Signature Formats document is ready for S/MIME WG Last 
Call.  The intent is for this document to be published as an Informational 
RFC.  S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 6 February 2001.

	Title		: Electronic Signature Formats for long term electronic signatures
	Author(s)	: D. Pinkas, J. Ross, N. Pope
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-esformats-03.txt
	Pages		: 80
	Date		: 19-Jan-01

Russ



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Since the Working Group Last Call for the companion document 
(draft-ietf-smime-esformats-03.txt) will not complete until 6 February 
2001, I am extending the Working Group Last Call on this document until 6 
February 2001.  I want to progress these two documents at the same time.

Russ


At 07:14 PM 12/14/2000 -0500, Russ Housley wrote:
>S/MIME WG Members:
>
>The Signature Policies document is ready for S/MIME WG Last Call.  The 
>intent is for this document to be published as an Experimental 
>RFC.  S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 10 January 2001.
>
>Russ



From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org  Thu Jan 25 14:45:42 2001
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Jeff and Marcus:

The S/MIME WG is finished with Security Label document.  It is ready for 
the IESG and IETF-wide Last Call.  The intent is for this document to be 
published as an Informational RFC.

         Title           : Implementing Company Classification Policy with
                    the S/MIME Security Label
         Author(s)       : W. Nicolls
         Filename        : draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt
         Date            : 05-Jan-01

Russ 



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The IESG has received a request from the S/MIME Mail Security Working
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The IESG has received a request from the S/MIME Mail Security Working
Group to consider Implementing Company Classification Policy with the
S/MIME Security Label <draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt> as an
Informational RFC.

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
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Jeff and Marcus:

The S/MIME WG is finished with Security Label document.  It is ready for 
the IESG and IETF-wide Last Call.  The intent is for this document to be 
published as an Informational RFC.

         Title           : Implementing Company Classification Policy with
                    the S/MIME Security Label
         Author(s)       : W. Nicolls
         Filename        : draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt
         Date            : 05-Jan-01

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S/MIME WG Members:

The Electronic Signature Formats document is ready for S/MIME WG Last 
Call.  The intent is for this document to be published as an Informational 
RFC.  S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 6 February 2001.

	Title		: Electronic Signature Formats for long term electronic signatures
	Author(s)	: D. Pinkas, J. Ross, N. Pope
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-esformats-03.txt
	Pages		: 80
	Date		: 19-Jan-01

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Subject: Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-espolicies-00.txt
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Since the Working Group Last Call for the companion document 
(draft-ietf-smime-esformats-03.txt) will not complete until 6 February 
2001, I am extending the Working Group Last Call on this document until 6 
February 2001.  I want to progress these two documents at the same time.

Russ


At 07:14 PM 12/14/2000 -0500, Russ Housley wrote:
>S/MIME WG Members:
>
>The Signature Policies document is ready for S/MIME WG Last Call.  The 
>intent is for this document to be published as an Experimental 
>RFC.  S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 10 January 2001.
>
>Russ



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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Electronic Signature Formats for long term electronic 
                          signatures
	Author(s)	: D. Pinkas, J. Ross, N. Pope
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-esformats-03.txt
	Pages		: 80
	Date		: 19-Jan-01
	
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S/MIME WG Members:

The authors of this document promised to post -03 immediately following the 
San Diego IETF meeting.  This has still not happened.  Therefore, I am 
closing the Working Group Last Call.  I will make a new Working Group Last 
Call announcement when the document is made available.

Sorry for any confusion.  In the future, I will not make a Last Call 
announcement until the document is already available.

Russ

At 07:17 PM 12/14/2000 -0500, Russ Housley wrote:
>S/MIME WG Members:
>
>The Electronic Signature Formats document is ready for S/MIME WG Last 
>Call.  The intent is for this document to be published as an Informational 
>RFC.  S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 10 January 2001.
>
>Russ



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Subject: RE: Last Call: Compressed Data Content Type for S/MIME to Proposed Standard
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This is to some degree redunant information.  The reason that I want it
included is simply because it is stated that a binary comparison is used for
SMIME Capability rather than decoding and comparing.  Puting the actual
bytes into the document means there is no possiblity to get this wrong when
doing this binary compare.

jim

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"Jim Schaad" <jimsch5@home.com> writes:

>I have one minor comment.
>
>To be consistant with all of the other drafts coming out with
>SMimeCapability values, I would like to see the following text added to the
>end of Section 2.
>
>The SMIMECapability SEQUENCE representing the ability to process compressed
>content MUST be DER-encoded as the following hexadecimal string:
>       30 0D 06 0B 2A 86 48 86 F7 0D 01 09 10 01 09.

Someone else made that comment as well earlier on (or was it you, I can't
remember?).  I can't imagine why you'd need that, it's a completely
redundant
comment, if you want to know how to DER encode something, see the DER.  By
that logic every new standard would have to contain dozens (or in the case
of
something like son-of-2459, hundreds) of extra lines of text specifying the
DER encoding of each element.

Was there some historical reason why this was included originally and then
everyone copied it without knowing why (I smell a vendor-specific
bugfix/hack)?

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"Jim Schaad" <jimsch5@home.com> writes:
 
>I have one minor comment.
>
>To be consistant with all of the other drafts coming out with
>SMimeCapability values, I would like to see the following text added to the
>end of Section 2.
>
>The SMIMECapability SEQUENCE representing the ability to process compressed
>content MUST be DER-encoded as the following hexadecimal string:
>       30 0D 06 0B 2A 86 48 86 F7 0D 01 09 10 01 09.
 
Someone else made that comment as well earlier on (or was it you, I can't 
remember?).  I can't imagine why you'd need that, it's a completely redundant 
comment, if you want to know how to DER encode something, see the DER.  By 
that logic every new standard would have to contain dozens (or in the case of 
something like son-of-2459, hundreds) of extra lines of text specifying the 
DER encoding of each element.  
 
Was there some historical reason why this was included originally and then 
everyone copied it without knowing why (I smell a vendor-specific bugfix/hack)?
 
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I have one minor comment.

To be consistant with all of the other drafts coming out with
SMimeCapability values, I would like to see the following text added to the
end of Section 2.

The SMIMECapability SEQUENCE representing the ability to process compressed
content MUST be DER-encoded as the following hexadecimal string:
       30 0D 06 0B 2A 86 48 86 F7 0D 01 09 10 01 09.


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Last Call: Compressed Data Content Type for S/MIME to Proposed
Standard



The IESG has received a request from the S/MIME Mail Security Working
Group to consider Compressed Data Content Type for S/MIME
<draft-ietf-smime-compression-03.txt> as a Proposed Standard.

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action.  Please send any comments to the
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Files can be obtained via
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Russ,

Thanks for the clarification.

The RecipientInfo structure definition needs no changes to support my 
requirements.

Vamsi

At 05:15 PM 1/12/01 -0500, Russ Housley wrote:
>Vamsi:
>
>RFC 2630 includes details for key management of RC2 keys and 3DES 
>keys.  If you want to manage a different key, then you need to specify 
>that algorithm.  I think all of the fields that you need are present, right?
>
>Russ
>
>At 04:47 PM 1/12/2001 -0500, Vamsi Motukuru wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>My question is concerning the CMS authenticated data type.
>>
>>RFC2104 allows the HMAC key to be of any length. If this is the case, 
>>then the KEKRecipientInfo can not be used to transfer the Recipient Info 
>>unless the length of the authentication key matches that of a Triple-DES 
>>or RC2 Key as this is required by the Key Wrap Algorithms.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>  Vamsi
>



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Vamsi:

RFC 2630 includes details for key management of RC2 keys and 3DES keys.  If 
you want to manage a different key, then you need to specify that 
algorithm.  I think all of the fields that you need are present, right?

Russ

At 04:47 PM 1/12/2001 -0500, Vamsi Motukuru wrote:

>All,
>
>My question is concerning the CMS authenticated data type.
>
>RFC2104 allows the HMAC key to be of any length. If this is the case, then 
>the KEKRecipientInfo can not be used to transfer the Recipient Info unless 
>the length of the authentication key matches that of a Triple-DES or RC2 
>Key as this is required by the Key Wrap Algorithms.
>
>Thanks,
>  Vamsi
>



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All,

My question is concerning the CMS authenticated data type.

RFC2104 allows the HMAC key to be of any length. If this is the case, then 
the KEKRecipientInfo can not be used to transfer the Recipient Info unless 
the length of the authentication key matches that of a Triple-DES or RC2 
Key as this is required by the Key Wrap Algorithms.

Thanks,
  Vamsi



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Hi Russ,

Comments inline.

Bill.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org
> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Russ Housley
> Sent: 09 January 2001 15:25
> To: ietf-smime@imc.org
> Subject: Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-smime-domsec-07.txt
>
>
> Bill & Tim:
>
> I have completed my WG Last Call review, and I have a few
> comments.  I have
> divided them into two categories: technical and editorial.  In my
> view, the
> technical comments must be addressed.  On the other hand, the editorial
> comments can be accepted or rejected by you.
>
>
> TECHNICAL
>
> I am concerned with the term "domain component."  It could easily be
> confused with the domainComponent attribute, as defined in RFC 2247.  The
> domainComponent naming attribute is used to represent DNS names as X.500
> distinguished names.  Is there another term that avoids this potential
> confusion.  Perhaps some text can be taken from RFC 1422, where the name
> subordination concept is discussed.

Under consideration.


> I would like to see the discussion in section 3.1.1 and 4.1 include X.500
> distinguished names that include the domainComponent naming attribute, as
> defined in RFC 2247.  For example:
> 	cn="Peter Yee", dc=hq, dc=spyrus, dc=com
>

Under consideration. I don't see a problem.

> The id-aa-signatureType OID was assigned from the S/MIME WG arc.
> However,
> id-aa-sigtype-domain-sig, id-aa-sigtype-add-attrib-sig, and
> id-aa-sigtype-review were not assigned.  Has any implementor used the
> values listed in the draft?  I would prefer to assign values that are not
> subordinate to the assigned attributes arc; they would be shorter.
>

Fine. Can you give me a new number?

> I cannot parse the following sentence (from section 3.1.2).  Since "MUST"
> appears twice, the sentence is obviously very important.  Please
> reword it.
>
>     All signature types, except the originator type, MUST
> encapsulate other
>     signature types specified in this document MUST encapsulate other
>     signatures.
>

Have changed to the paragraph to :-

All signature types, except the originator type, MUST encapsulate other
signatures. Note a DOMSEC defined signature could be encapsulating an
empty signature as defined in section 3.


> The specification relies on several well-known names (such as
> domain-confidentiality-authority).  These well-known names are indicators
> that unusual processing is allowed.  For example, when I fetch a
> certificate from a directory for Bill Ottaway, and I get a certificate
> containing a Diffie-Hellman key bound to the subject name
> cn=domain-confidentiality-authority, ou=dera, o=mod, c=uk, I am
> expected to
> consider the name acceptable.  I generated an encrypted message using the
> Diffie-Hellman key expecting that a proxy will decrypt the message and
> share it only with Bill.  So, there is clearly some security
> consideration
> text needed.  Organizations must take care with these well-known names,
> even if they do not implement DOMSEC.  If I can get a certificate
> associated with domain-confidentiality-authority@spyrus.com, then I might
> be able to read messages that a DOMSEC client intended for others.
>

I agree.

> EDITORIAL
>
> Please change "domain to domain" to "domain-to-domain."  I think
> that this
> will improve readability, especially in sentences where domain-to-domain,
> individual-to-domain, and domain-to-individual concepts are all
> discussed.  You already use "end-to-end" and "desktop-to-desktop" in the
> document.  I guess that this is a request for consistency as well.

Done.

> Please change "individual to domain" to individual-to-domain."

Done.

> Please change "domain to individual" to "domain-to-individual."

Done.

> Sometimes you say "Domain signature," and other times you say "domain
> signature."  Please pick one spelling and use it throughout the document.
>

Done.

> Please change "(re-)encrypted" to "encrypted (or re-encrypted)."
>

Done.

> I find the term "DOMSEC signature" confusing.  It is only used in two
> paragraphs of section 3.  Perhaps those paragraphs can be
> reworded to avoid
> this term.

Have changed to DOMSEC defined signature. Is that better?

>
> In my opinion, the OIDs in section 3.1.2 would be easier to read id
> presented this way:
>
>     -- domain signature
>     id-xxx-domain-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 2 }
>
>     -- additional attributes signature
>     id-xxx-add-attrib-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 3}
>
>     -- review signature
>     id-xxx-review OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 4}
>

Okay. Awaiting new arc.


> In section 4.2, you discuss a "directory."  When the concept is first
> introduced, please say "a X.500 or LDAP directory may be used."
>
>

Done.

> Happy New Year,
>    Russ
>



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Chung,
 
In both cases, these are signed attributes.  The IETF S/MIME working group
decided that it was important that the encapsulated content type and the
information identifying the signer's certificate(s) be cryptographically
bound to the digital signature of the RFC 2630 SignedData object.  RFC 2634
provides a detailed discussion regarding the purpose of the
signingCertificate signed attribute.

===========================================
John Pawling, John.Pawling@GetronicsGov.com
Getronics Government Solutions, LLC
===========================================


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:42 AM
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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is
the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't
know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung



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Bill & Tim:

I have completed my WG Last Call review, and I have a few comments.  I have 
divided them into two categories: technical and editorial.  In my view, the 
technical comments must be addressed.  On the other hand, the editorial 
comments can be accepted or rejected by you.


TECHNICAL

I am concerned with the term "domain component."  It could easily be 
confused with the domainComponent attribute, as defined in RFC 2247.  The 
domainComponent naming attribute is used to represent DNS names as X.500 
distinguished names.  Is there another term that avoids this potential 
confusion.  Perhaps some text can be taken from RFC 1422, where the name 
subordination concept is discussed.

I would like to see the discussion in section 3.1.1 and 4.1 include X.500 
distinguished names that include the domainComponent naming attribute, as 
defined in RFC 2247.  For example:
	cn="Peter Yee", dc=hq, dc=spyrus, dc=com

The id-aa-signatureType OID was assigned from the S/MIME WG arc.  However, 
id-aa-sigtype-domain-sig, id-aa-sigtype-add-attrib-sig, and 
id-aa-sigtype-review were not assigned.  Has any implementor used the 
values listed in the draft?  I would prefer to assign values that are not 
subordinate to the assigned attributes arc; they would be shorter.

I cannot parse the following sentence (from section 3.1.2).  Since "MUST" 
appears twice, the sentence is obviously very important.  Please reword it.

    All signature types, except the originator type, MUST encapsulate other
    signature types specified in this document MUST encapsulate other
    signatures.

The specification relies on several well-known names (such as 
domain-confidentiality-authority).  These well-known names are indicators 
that unusual processing is allowed.  For example, when I fetch a 
certificate from a directory for Bill Ottaway, and I get a certificate 
containing a Diffie-Hellman key bound to the subject name 
cn=domain-confidentiality-authority, ou=dera, o=mod, c=uk, I am expected to 
consider the name acceptable.  I generated an encrypted message using the 
Diffie-Hellman key expecting that a proxy will decrypt the message and 
share it only with Bill.  So, there is clearly some security consideration 
text needed.  Organizations must take care with these well-known names, 
even if they do not implement DOMSEC.  If I can get a certificate 
associated with domain-confidentiality-authority@spyrus.com, then I might 
be able to read messages that a DOMSEC client intended for others.


EDITORIAL

Please change "domain to domain" to "domain-to-domain."  I think that this 
will improve readability, especially in sentences where domain-to-domain, 
individual-to-domain, and domain-to-individual concepts are all 
discussed.  You already use "end-to-end" and "desktop-to-desktop" in the 
document.  I guess that this is a request for consistency as well.

Please change "individual to domain" to individual-to-domain."

Please change "domain to individual" to "domain-to-individual."

Sometimes you say "Domain signature," and other times you say "domain 
signature."  Please pick one spelling and use it throughout the document.

Please change "(re-)encrypted" to "encrypted (or re-encrypted)."

I find the term "DOMSEC signature" confusing.  It is only used in two 
paragraphs of section 3.  Perhaps those paragraphs can be reworded to avoid 
this term.

In my opinion, the OIDs in section 3.1.2 would be easier to read id 
presented this way:

    -- domain signature
    id-xxx-domain-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 2 }

    -- additional attributes signature
    id-xxx-add-attrib-sig OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 3}

    -- review signature
    id-xxx-review OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { xxx 4}

In section 4.2, you discuss a "directory."  When the concept is first 
introduced, please say "a X.500 or LDAP directory may be used."


Happy New Year,
   Russ 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Chung, KwonSung [mailto:kschung@bcqre.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:22 AM
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Subject: S/MIME signed attribute


Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is

the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't

know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung




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Hello All,

In the S/MIME signed message with MS Outlook, there are 5 signed
attribues.

Each attribute has Object Identifier and it is defined PKCS #9 v2.0,
but  one attribute which has
{1 3 6 1 4 1 311 16 4} as OID is not defined anywhere.

What does this OID means ?

Thank you.

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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is

the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't

know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung





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Hello All,

In S/MIME signed message at MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger, the
signed message has sevral signed attributes.

I have two questions related these signed attributes.

1. "contentType" Signed Attribute
    In "encapContentInfo", the type of content is determined.
"contentType" represents the same information about content type. Why is
the same information included again?

2. "signingCertificate" Signed Attribute
    In "certificates", certificate which was used to sign message is
included. But "sigingCertificate" has the same data - the certificate
used to sign message- as value. Why?
This attribute is not used by MS Outlook and Netscape Messanger. I don't
know what the usage of this attribute is.

Thank you.

Chung




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S/MIME WG Members:<br>
<br>
The Security Label document is ready for S/MIME WG Last Call.&nbsp; The
intent is for this document to be published as an Informational
RFC.&nbsp; S/MIME WG Last Call will close on 23 January 2001.<br>
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<font face="Courier New, Courier"><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Title<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>:
Implementing Company Classification Policy with <br>
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<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Author(s)<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>:
W. Nicolls<br>
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draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt<br>
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05-Jan-01<br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Implementing Company Classification Policy with the 
                          S/MIME Security Label
	Author(s)	: W. Nicolls
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-seclabel-03.txt
	Pages		: 
	Date		: 05-Jan-01
	
This document discusses how company security policy for data classification can be mapped to the S/MIME security label.  Actual policies from 3 companies are used to provide worked examples.

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Please issue an IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-smime-compression-03.txt
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SMIME WG.  I have completed my review. Thanks.

                        -Jeff

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Harel,

To ensure that the S/MIME Freeware Library is compatible with S/MIME v2
products we exchanged signed and encrypted S/MIME v2 messages with the
Microsoft (MS) Internet Explorer Outlook Express v4.01 and Netscape
Communicator 4.X S/MIME v2 products.  If you would like more details
regarding how we performed this testing, then please let me know.   

===========================================
John Pawling, John.Pawling@GetronicsGov.com
Getronics Government Solutions, LLC
===========================================


-----Original Message-----
From: Moshe Harel [mailto:moshe@arx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 7:56 AM
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> Hi!
> 
> I would like to know where and how I can test the compatibility of my
> S/MIME 2 implementation.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Harel Moshe
> Cylink Corporation
> mailto:moshe@arx.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Bernd Matthes wrote:
> I need a clarification to following sentence from RFC 2630,
> section 11.4, Countersignature:
[snipped]

Hi!

Is cleared. 
Thanks to Jim Schaad ( mailto:jimsch@exmsft.com ).

He wrote:
>Authenticated and Unauthenticated attributes occur in the AuthenticatedData
>structure (section 9).  The statement is just being made that a counter
>signature is not present in the AuthenticatedData structure.


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> Hi!
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> I would like to know where and how I can test the compatibility of my
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> Thanks in advance
> Harel Moshe
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Hi!
At first a happy new year to all!

I need a clarification to following sentence from RFC 2630,
section 11.4, Countersignature:
"The countersignature attribute must be an unsigned attribute; it
 cannot be a signed attribute, an authenticated attribute, or an
 unauthenticated attribute."

What is the difference between: 
a) signed attribute <-> authenticated attribute
b) unsigned attribute <-> unauthenticated attribute
to relate to CMS?

Where is located a (un)authenticated attribute in an
signed-data CMS?
I thought, it exist as (un)signed attribute in the SignerInfo,
or is this complete beside them?


Thanks in advance
with kind regards
-- 
Mors certa, hora incerta. In dubio pro mille.
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