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I have a few comments.

TECHNICAL

The references are obsolete.  The normative references are:

    [CMS] Cryptographic Message Syntax, RFC 2630.

    [PKIX] PKIX Certificate and CRL Profile, RFC 2459.

    [SMIME-MSG] S/MIME Version 3 Message Specification. RFC 2633.

A new version of each of these documents has been published as a 
standards-track RFC.

Please delete the following paragraphs from the Introduction prior to 
submission to the IESG:

    This draft is being discussed on the 'ietf-smime-examples' mailing list.
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    contact the document author at the address listed near the end of the
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EDITORIAL

Section 1 says:

    The examples shown here were created and validated by many different
    people over a long period of time.

This seems like a good place to say something about the dates used in the 
examples.  I see no need to generate new examples will more recent dates; 
however, the implementor should be warned about the dates used in the 
examples.  The certificates have very long lifespans to avoid having to 
play with clock settings.

In section 2: s/in this spec./in this document./

Russ



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At 10:02 AM -0400 8/11/04, Russ Housley wrote:
>I have a few comments.

Thanks! I'll fix all these things at the end of WG last call, before 
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More comments are welcome, of course.

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I have no comments on the "design" in this draft.

However, I seriously question the idea to put client software
capabilities in certificates.

Why?
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- because static solutions are limiting

If we begin to use dynamic methods like XKMS + DNS to find
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Due to the limited utility of true end-to-end encryption in corporate
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I believe that Microsoft should focus on making a gateway e-mail
standard a reality rather than patching a system that never will play
a major role and actually mostly creates problems for end-users and
system administrators.

Anders




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Anders, 
 
It's a helpful tool, not a requirement for S/MIME.
 
No one is required to use this.
If your CA don't have this info or it is not working with your client structure, then don't use it.
 
It is however useful in a very large part of the enterprise use cases where this is currently deployed without any problems. It helps avoid a lot of uinnecessary occurances of bad 40 bit encryption in initial exchanges.
 
 
Stefan Santesson
Consulting Operations Specialist
Microsoft Security Center of Excellence (SCOE)

________________________________

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I have no comments on the "design" in this draft.

However, I seriously question the idea to put client software
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- because issuers may not have this information
- because users may have multiple clients
- because static solutions are limiting

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public keys of recipients, SCEXT represents a step in another direction.

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environments (the DOMSEC RFC shows a few good reasons to that),
as well as the de-facto use of the web as a distribution medium for
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Anders







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<p class="TitleLine">Minutes for Secure MIME (S/MIME) WG Meeting<br>
IETF #60<br>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tuesday PM III Session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
Agenda: Blake Ramsdell covered the agenda for the meeting. No changes
were made.<br>
<br>
Working Group Status: Blake Ramsdell covered the status of the active
documents in the working group.&nbsp; the documents that have changed status
since the last meeting are:<br>
<br>
Published as RFC:<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-08 is now approved as
RFC 3850<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2633bis-10 is
now approved as RFC 3851<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc3369bis-05 is
now approved as RFC 3852<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400wrap-09 is now
approved as RFC 3854<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400transport-09
is now approved as RFC 3855<br>
<br>
RFC Editor Queue: <br>
- PSS is pinned by a PSS document in PKIX.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">schaad </span>reported that PSS has
also been awaiting an IESG write-up since April.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; housley</span>
indicated that he would check on this.<br>
- SYMKEYDIST is pinned by CMCbis (from PKIX) which is in turn pinned by
CRMFbis (from PKIX).<br>
<br>
Others:<br>
- EXAMPLES - A new release incorporates some edits,
but is essentially done.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>New version
was after deadline, so will go to WG Last Call as soon as queue opens
up.<br>
- GOST - Some editorial issues to take
care of.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Draft is good until October.<br>
- KEM<span style=""> - See later discussion</span>.<br>
- RFC2624bis - Not yet published; fixes some problems
with ML expansion and receipt policy; moves them into separate
attributes.<br>
<br>
Milestone Updates:<br>
- Updates to MSG and CERT
for Proposed Standards.<br>
- Submitted RSA PSS as a Proposed
Standard<br>
- Milestones themselves need to be updated to more realistic dates
especially for RSA KEM.<br>
<br>
KEM Status - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
said
he received a status update from <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">burt
kaliski</span><!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[if !supportLists]--> (RSA)
on KEM. RSA KEM I-D has alignment relationship with ISO/IEC 18033-2
and ANSI X9.44. Outstanding issues in X9.44 include: text on assurance
of validity of public keys, possession of private key, and security
considerations.&nbsp; Clearly these need to be resolved before advancing.&nbsp;
Expect substantial completion of ISO/IEC 18033-2 and ANSI
X9.44 in mid-2005 with formalities continuing into 2006.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>The KEM I-D will be updated to track these,
but should not be finalized until balloting begins.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>PKCS
#1 may also be updated.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>Upshot is that we will probably not complete the KEM I-D until
late 2005
or early 2006.
<p class="MsoBodyTextIndent2">Formats for Long Term Electronic
Signatures - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ross</span>
briefly
introduced the background of the project for ETSI to establish
guidelines for
digital signatures that will have legal standing. RFC 3126 was produced
to align with the ETSI document.&nbsp; Additional changes to the underlying
signature standards
(CMS, etc.) have somewhat advanced the discussion.&nbsp; The updated I-D
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 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span><span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">
asked whether he was asking to take this on as a WG item.&nbsp; </span>10
or so were in favor, and no objections were
voiced.</p>
Boneh-Franklin Identity Based Encryption in S/MIME - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">martin</span>
presented this proposal for an alternative to PKI-based encryption.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>Based on a process for deriving a public key
based on a string representation of the user identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
mechanism relies on supersingular
elliptic curves.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It uses a Tate pairing
on a particular supersingular curve that has been tested to ensure that
it
isn&#8217;t cryptographically &#8220;bad&#8221;.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
public key must be obtained from a key server so it isn&#8217;t good for
digital
signature, but is okay for encryption.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>Bottom line is that this is being proposed as an alternative key
exchange mechanism for use with CMS/SMIME.&nbsp; There were technical
questions about how the identity is bound to the identity string, and
there were IPR questions.&nbsp; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
indicated that the politics of the solution aside, he considered this
interesting to the WG as something that is using CMS.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; ramsdell</span>
summarized that the WG is basically in a monitoring mode with respect
to this
proposal, but there are clearly some concerns wrt IPR and complexity.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>He noted that that he would like to see some
more before definition considering this any further.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span
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that you could still develop the draft as an individual submission.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span>
remarked that this would give people an opportunity better evaluate the
idea.
<p class="MsoBodyTextIndent">X.509 S/MIME Capabilities - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">santesson</span> gave
an overview of his proposal that the S/MIME Capabilities attribute from
RFC
2633 be included in the user certificate.&nbsp; The proposal is to include
the attribute as a non-critical extension as opposed to in the subject
directory attributes extension.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span> asked
if there were any opposition to bringing this in as a WG item. No
opposition was expressed.<br>
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Other Business: There was some discussion
about closing the WG, but it was decided to poll the WG for work items
prior to each meeting to better assess whether it should meet at future
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Shelby Automobiles Inc. is manufacturing high performance Shelby vehicles under the guidance of the legendary Carroll Shelby and will be involved in prototype manufacturing, design and engineering projects; and plans to increase production and availability of these Shelby products through an expanded dealer network and direct sales under a license agreement with Carroll Shelby Licensing Inc. 

Carroll Shelby Licensing Inc., founded in 1988, is the exclusive holder of automotive manufacturer and entrepreneur Carroll Shelby's trademarks and vehicle design rights, which include some of the world's most famous muscle cars and high-performance vehicles, including the car that brought home to the U.S. it's first and only FIA World Manufacturers Championship in 1965, the famous Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe. It also holds trademark rights for Shelby-branded apparel, accessories and collectibles. 


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Wall Street Money Report<p>

 

OTC Symbol: KDSC<p>


Current Price: $ .15<p>


Estimated 30-Day High: $ .65<p>


Estimated 12-Month High (w/ movie release): $2.50<p>

 
Wall Street Money Report discovers leading edge Entertainment Company preparing for blockbuster new release! KDSC positioned as the #1 stock investment in children's entertainment for years to come.<p>

 Over the past decade, Disney and Warner Brothers have perfected a proven formula in the entertainment industry that consistently delivers over $100 Million per film release. Box office results have shown that animated features and movies geared toward a younger audience are genuine profit makers with movie-goers starved for quality G-rated family entertainment.<p>

 By enhancing this model for success, KidSational, Inc. (KDSC) is building a solid platform in the most profitable segment of all mainstream movies - typically 5X more profitable than a big production film. Through skillful management and product depth, KDSC is rapidly becoming a diversified entertainment empire, poised to become one of the leaders in this industry.<p>

 Fueled by recent positive developments and the revenue power of its product line, KidSational is on track during the month of August to finalize negotiations with leading Hollywood producers and executives to bring "The Guardians" movie to the Big Screen. KDSC is moving forward with lightning speed as evidenced by their developing relationships with specialists in entertainment law and top music tour management, motion picture producers, executive producers and distributors, and the selection of product placement and marketing experts.<p>

 
KDSC's initial motion picture is entitled "The Guardians - Masters of the Electro-World", based on adolescent super heroes along the lines of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, who have collectively produced revenues exceeding $500 Million. One clear advantage for KDSC is that "The Guardians" is scheduled to feature TV and movie industry stars, giving the film that extra boost of mass appeal. KDSC's theater release is based upon the theme and characters in the nationally available Guardian's board game (100% owned by KDSC) which is used in over 400 elementary schools and has been featured on a major nationally syndicated afternoon TV talk show.<p>

 Judging by the numbers, major full length films of this type that reach out not just to kids but entire families, have enjoyed huge box office success. This is based on a release of over 1,000 screens, right in line with Company expectations for their premier in just the US alone. But the box office revenues are only a fraction of the huge income that is typically realized from a film. To maximize profits, KDSC is also securing multiple streams of promotional revenue from food chains and a major shoe manufacturer, a completed licensing agreement with DLI in Georgia to manufacture apparel for a branded product line of children's wear, and a variety of products available at the retail level all based upon the film. Everything from action figures, clothing, toys, to children's party favors and lunch boxes are scheduled for national merchandising in order to extend the brand and generate revenue.<p>

 If this were the whole story, it would be more than enough to justify a strong buy recommendation for KDSC. However, this isn't even the tip of the iceberg. The really big income will most likely be in VCR/DVD sales after the movie has run in theaters. Anyone who has small children or grandchildren knows that the VCR/DVD is today's electronic baby sitter. Children watch films over and over again memorizing all the songs and story lines. It is very realistic by today's standards to see video and DVD sales hit the $100 Million mark, especially with the availability at retail super-stores and the Internet. One of the most magnificent facts about children's movies is that a new generation is born every 7 years to enjoy re-releases as well as home video.<p>

 KDSC's Music Division is red-hot, featuring the new urban/pop music sensation "TGK". This group of young superstars currently has a nationwide advance release of a new single from their CD in major music retail stores, which has already jumped into the top 20. KDSC is enjoying the ultimate in cross-over entertainment success by featuring the music of TGK in the soundtrack for The Guardians movie. TGK has been receiving major radio airplay while performing worldwide, and promotes only a positive message with no negative lyrics in their music.<p>

 KDSC has cemented partnerships that will enhance their entertainment products, increase distribution channels, and accelerate growth. Dynamic profits are realized in the early growth stages of a burgeoning entertainment company that has nailed the blueprint for success. Savvy investors with an eye for value can benefit from the tremendous profits that will launch the fortunes of this new film and entertainment powerhouse.<p>

 
Please read this required disclosure: Wall Street Money Report (WSMR) is an independent newsletter with the goal of giving investors the necessary knowledge to make rational and profitable investment decisions. This publication does not provide an analysis of the Company's financial position and is not an offer to buy or sell securities. Investing in securities is speculative and carries risk. It is recommended that any investment should be made after consulting with your investment advisor and after reviewing the financial statements of the company. The information in this online report is believed to be reliable, but its accuracy cannot be assured. Past performance does not insure similar future results. This is not purported to be a complete and thorough analysis of the featured company and recommends a complete review of the Company's regulatory filings at sec.gov. The information herein contains future looking statements and information within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, including statements regarding expected continual growth of the featured company. Any statements that express or involve discussions with respect to predictions, expectations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, goals, assumptions or future events or performance are not statements of historical fact and may be future looking statements. Future looking statements are based on expectations, estimates and projections at the time the statements are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results or events to differ materially from those presently anticipated. Future looking statements in this action may be identified through the use of words such as "projects", "foresee", "expects", "will", "anticipates", "estimates", "believes", "understands", or that by statements indicating certain actions "may", "could", or "might" occur. The publisher discloses the receipt of twenty thousand dollars from a third party, not an off
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August 23, 2004<p>

xcelPlus International, Inc.  OTC-PK:  XLPI<p>

The Hot Issue Alert - For the Aggressive Investor<p>

URGENT BUY - EXPLOSIVE STOCK PICK<p>

XLPI announce hot news on Friday 20th of August Friday - The company say they have record increase in their direct sales for 87% in the first quarter and another 130% for the second quarter of 2004.<p>

READ the HOT NEWS visiting www.bigcharts.com and look up XLPI symbol for last news!!!<p>

XcelPlus is the only pure play on the recent spike in gasoline prices!!XLPI products (formerly known a Slick 50) increase mileage per gallon by 10 – 40%!!!<p>


XcelPlus products have been given the green light from the<p>
Federal Aviation Administration, US Dept of Energy,  US Army,  & NASA<p>

Current Price:             $0.15<p>

3 Month Projection	   $0.75<p>

6 Month	Projection         $1.00<p>

The Hot Issue Alert has compiled impressive stats with this year’s recommendations. Our last pick, ACDC, has increased over 100% in the last few weeks. XcelPlus is a new public company. The Hot Issue Alert staff is writing about XcelPlus (XLPI) for the first time and we are extremely bullish on this stock.<p> 
 
Think you’ve missed out on the wave?  You haven’t!

XLPI is in the perfect position to recover from a recent sell off and move strongly UPWARD to a new trading level at or near its previous post-split price of $.44.<p>

INVESTMENT CONSIDERATIONS<p>

COMPANY HIGHLIGHTS:<p>

Xcelplus International is a specialty chemicals and lubricants distributor. They provide solutions to every day problems people encounter on the job, in their cars, homes as well as in the air. The formulas they provide have been around since the 1970's and have been documented as well as proven over the years in countless applications.<p>

XcelPlus (XLPI) has targeted Pep Boys, Auto Zone, CSK, CarQuest, and AutoParts for its retail client base. Those shelves are now being filled with XcelPlus product. XcelPlus is the newest and best brand with their “Engine Protection Kits” – protection for the engine, transmission, and drive train/rear end differential.<p>




Notes:  Some of the many reasons to BUY this stock now!<p>

1.	You are getting the first look at yet another winner! Buy XLPI before it begins its momentum move to $3.00 within 6 months – a 2000% gain!<p>

2.	The formulas have been tested by the US Department of Energy, and at the time of the testing, would have proven effective in reducing fuel consumption in this country in excess of 100 million barrels of fuel per year. The formula was specifically tested by the FAA for aircraft use and by the, US Army / NASA, Franklin Research Institute, University of Utah as well as others. The formulas have been marketed under various private labels; Lubrilon, Slick 50 (1978-1984), Matrix, Camtron, Z-Bond as well as others. They also have the credible lab, university and governmental studies to prove its claims.<p> 

3.	News - Aug. 20, 2004 - Xcelplus International saw record levels in direct sales over the last 6 months, realizing an 87% growth from Q4 2003 to Q1 2004; and another increase of 137% growth from Q1 to Q2 2004. This stock WILL react on the upside in a major way!<p>

4.	XLPI stock is poised to explode and can be expected to reach the $0.75 - $1.00 range short term. This industry is exploding with the focus on gasoline, aviation fuel, and diesel fuel prices. XcelPlus brings a definite solution to these fuel price concerns.  XLPI dominates its’ space!<p>

5.	As we have pointed out in the past, high growth opportunities are in small overlooked companies. Investors using this strategy right now are often realizing gains of 100% – 2000% annually from a well diversified portfolio of speculative issues.<p>

6.	The XLPI management team has a proven track record of success. Your managers at XcelPlus are top-notch. You, the shareholder and owner of the company should expect excellence from management, as we have pointed out in the past. This has always worked for us and will continue to be a must in any future recommendations.<p>

7.	XLPI anticipates gross revenues of approximately $50 million in 2004, and near $100 million in 2005. This will definitely attract the institutional investors who will take the stock to 5 - 10 dollars per share with such a limited number of shares outstanding.<p>



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Current Price:             $0.15<p>
3 Month Projection	   $0.75<p>
6 Month	Projection         $1.00<p>

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be understood as information provided and not investment advice.<p> 
Emerging Equity Alert advises all readers and subscribers to seek advice from<p> 
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Seeing no comments I'll pass these on to the proceedings folks.<br>
<br>
Sean P. Turner wrote:<br>
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  <p class="TitleLine">Minutes for Secure MIME (S/MIME) WG Meeting<br>
IETF #60<br>
  <span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tuesday PM III Session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
Agenda: Blake Ramsdell covered the agenda for the meeting. No changes
were made.<br>
  <br>
Working Group Status: Blake Ramsdell covered the status of the active
documents in the working group.&nbsp; the documents that have changed status
since the last meeting are:<br>
  <br>
Published as RFC:<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-08 is now approved as
RFC 3850<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2633bis-10 is
now approved as RFC 3851<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc3369bis-05 is
now approved as RFC 3852<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400wrap-09 is now
approved as RFC 3854<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400transport-09
is now approved as RFC 3855<br>
  <br>
RFC Editor Queue: <br>
- PSS is pinned by a PSS document in PKIX.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">schaad </span>reported that PSS has
also been awaiting an IESG write-up since April.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; housley</span>
indicated that he would check on this.<br>
- SYMKEYDIST is pinned by CMCbis (from PKIX) which is in turn pinned by
CRMFbis (from PKIX).<br>
  <br>
Others:<br>
- EXAMPLES - A new release incorporates some edits,
but is essentially done.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>New version
was after deadline, so will go to WG Last Call as soon as queue opens
up.<br>
- GOST - Some editorial issues to take
care of.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Draft is good until October.<br>
- KEM<span style=""> - See later discussion</span>.<br>
- RFC2624bis - Not yet published; fixes some problems
with ML expansion and receipt policy; moves them into separate
attributes.<br>
  <br>
Milestone Updates:<br>
- Updates to MSG and CERT
for Proposed Standards.<br>
- Submitted RSA PSS as a Proposed
Standard<br>
- Milestones themselves need to be updated to more realistic dates
especially for RSA KEM.<br>
  <br>
KEM Status - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
said
he received a status update from <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">burt
kaliski</span><!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[if !supportLists]--> (RSA)
on KEM. RSA KEM I-D has alignment relationship with ISO/IEC 18033-2
and ANSI X9.44. Outstanding issues in X9.44 include: text on assurance
of validity of public keys, possession of private key, and security
considerations.&nbsp; Clearly these need to be resolved before advancing.&nbsp;
Expect substantial completion of ISO/IEC 18033-2 and ANSI
X9.44 in mid-2005 with formalities continuing into 2006.<span style="">&nbsp;
  </span>The KEM I-D will be updated to track these,
but should not be finalized until balloting begins.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>PKCS
#1 may also be updated.<span style="">&nbsp;
  </span>Upshot is that we will probably not complete the KEM I-D until
late 2005
or early 2006.
  <p class="MsoBodyTextIndent2">Formats for Long Term Electronic
Signatures - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ross</span>
briefly
introduced the background of the project for ETSI to establish
guidelines for
digital signatures that will have legal standing. RFC 3126 was produced
to align with the ETSI document.&nbsp; Additional changes to the underlying
signature standards
(CMS, etc.) have somewhat advanced the discussion.&nbsp; The updated I-D
that would obsolete RFC 3126.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span><span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">
asked whether he was asking to take this on as a WG item.&nbsp; </span>10
or so were in favor, and no objections were
voiced.</p>
Boneh-Franklin Identity Based Encryption in S/MIME - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">martin</span>
presented this proposal for an alternative to PKI-based encryption.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>Based on a process for deriving a public key
based on a string representation of the user identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
mechanism relies on supersingular
elliptic curves.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It uses a Tate pairing
on a particular supersingular curve that has been tested to ensure that
it
isn&#8217;t cryptographically &#8220;bad&#8221;.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
public key must be obtained from a key server so it isn&#8217;t good for
digital
signature, but is okay for encryption.<span style="">&nbsp;
  </span>Bottom line is that this is being proposed as an alternative
key
exchange mechanism for use with CMS/SMIME.&nbsp; There were technical
questions about how the identity is bound to the identity string, and
there were IPR questions.&nbsp; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
indicated that the politics of the solution aside, he considered this
interesting to the WG as something that is using CMS.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; ramsdell</span>
summarized that the WG is basically in a monitoring mode with respect
to this
proposal, but there are clearly some concerns wrt IPR and complexity.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>He noted that that he would like to see some
more before definition considering this any further.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">turner</span> pointed out
that you could still develop the draft as an individual submission.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span>
remarked that this would give people an opportunity better evaluate the
idea.
  <p class="MsoBodyTextIndent">X.509 S/MIME Capabilities - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">santesson</span> gave
an overview of his proposal that the S/MIME Capabilities attribute from
RFC
2633 be included in the user certificate.&nbsp; The proposal is to include
the attribute as a non-critical extension as opposed to in the subject
directory attributes extension.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span> asked
if there were any opposition to bringing this in as a WG item. No
opposition was expressed.<br>
  </p>
Other Business: There was some discussion
about closing the WG, but it was decided to poll the WG for work items
prior to each meeting to better assess whether it should meet at future
IETF meetings.
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                      The Growth ST0CK Report<p>
                                  
       Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc. (OTC: PPFM.PK)<p>
                                  
                        Current Price: $.045<p>


Imagine how well your portfolio would have done if you had the scoop<p>
on the following stocks:<p>

(OTC:AUML): Closed July 9th  at  $.10.  Traded  over $4.00 on August<p>
4th. Ama-zing. (Split 5 for 1 August 5th) Do the math..You  may  not<p>
know a lot about investing, but we're sure you can count.<p>

(OTCBB:GSPM):  Closed  June 1st at $.01. Closed July 23rd at $.13 Up<p>
1200%<p>

Think some overowned, overblown  st0ck  like  Intel is going to move<p>
like that anytime soon?<p>

Ordinary Investors Like You are Turbocharging Their P0rtfolios  With<p>
Select  High P0tential Micro-cap St0cks. Some of these st0cks really<p>
do fly.<p>


     Let's Look at Today's Featured Company , Premier Platform<p>
                                  
                           (OTC: PPFM.PK)<p>
                                  
(Working on Acquisitions and  a  $1.1 Million Investor Commitment in Place)<p>


AngioScan Biotech Inc. has  developed  a  revolutionary  early  risk<p>
screening methodology for breast imaging. (This is A Company PPFM is<p>
attempting to Purchase Up to 40% Of)<p>

    About AngioScan Biotech Inc.<p>

AngioScan  BioTech combines metabolic and physiological science with<p>
advanced digital  thermographic  imaging  to  create  a  new form of<p>
biotechnology  called,  the  AngioScan  ThermogramT.  The  AngioScan<p>
Thermogram System utilizes High Definition Infrared Medical  Imaging<p>
techniques  to  generate  accurate  clinical  infrared photos of the<p>
angiogenic, (relating to  the  blood  supply), patterns of pathology<p>
and   overall   physiological   health.   A   proprietary    digital<p>
computational  analysis  process is performed on the images in a lab<p>
to identify  and  report  on  the  angiogenic  patterns. The reports<p>
generated  are  designed  to  provide   physicians   with   critical<p>
information needed for the early detection & preventive intervention<p>
of;  breast  cancer,  vascular  disease,  thyroid imbalances, dental<p>
issues,  and  patterns  relating  to   diabetes  as  well  as  other<p>
pathological  disturbances  in  the  B0DY.  The  reports  also   are<p>
instrumental  in  helping  the physician to easliy monitor treatment<p>
progress. (Source: AngioScan Biotech's Website)<p>



     Recent Press Release Headlines: (Working on Acquisitions)<p>

Monday August 2:  Premier  Platform  Holding Company, Inc. Announces<p>
New Financing and Name Change<p>

Wednesday  July  14:  Premier  Platform  Holding  Company,  Inc.  to<p>
Increase Stake in EverWell<p>

Wednesday July 7: Premier Platform Holding Company,  Inc.  Announces<p>
Acquisition Plans<p>

             **Excerpt From the July 2nd Press Release:<p>

LAS VEGAS, Aug. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Premier Platform Holding<p>
Company,  Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: PPFM - News) is pleased to announce<p>
that they have  received  a  $1.1  million  investor commitment, and<p>
expect to close later this month. This will enable them to  complete<p>
their planned purchase of 40% of AngioScan Biotech Inc.

"In  recognition  of  the anticipated financing, we will be changing<p>
our  corporate  name  to  Premier  Medical  Technology  Group," said<p>
Premier Platform Holding Company's President and CEO Richard  Hanson<p>
and Loren Brink, head of EverWell. "Also, investors should watch for<p>
significant  news  coming  in  the near future," they concluded. Mr.<p>
Brink was  formerly  the  CEO  of  Health  Fitness  Corporation (OTC<p>
Bulletin Board: HFIT - News) from 1981 to 2000. They  are  currently<p>
the  largest corporate fitness/wellness company in the country, with<p>
over 390 sites in the U.S. and Canada.<p>

AngioScan Biotech  Inc.  has  developed  a  revolutionary early risk<p>
screening methodology for breast imaging.<p>

Will the Stock Blaze Higher from here?  Many  of  these  low  priced<p>
stocks  have been absolutely EXPLODING in price lately. If you think<p>
so, consider taking a good,  long  look  at PPFM. Remember the name,<p>
remember the symbol (PPFM). Like many of these unknown  stocks,  one<p>
major news announcement and this stock could go ballistic!<p>



DISCL-AIMER:  Information within this email contains F0RWARD looking<p>
statements within the meaning of  Section  27A of the Securities Act<p>
of 1933 and Section 21B of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.  Any<p>
statements  that  express  or  involve  discussions  with respect to<p>
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estimates and projections at the time the statements are  made  that<p>
involve a number of risks and uncertainties which could cause actual<p>
results   or  events  to  differ  materially  from  those  presently<p>
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identified through the use  of  words  such  as  projects,  foresee,<p>
expects, will, anticipates, estimates, believes, understands or that<p>
by statements indicating certain actions may, could, or might occur.<p>
As  with  many micro-cap stocks, today's company has additional risk<p>
factors worth noting. Premier Platform Holding Company Inc. is not a<p>
reporting company registered under  the  Securities  Act of 1934. It<p>
has not had any operations or business for the past two years. Other<p>
factors include: an accumulated deficit, a  negative  net  worth,  a<p>
nominal cash position and no revenue in its most recent quarter. The<p>
company  is  relying  on financing to complete some transactions. If<p>
that financing does not occur, those transactions may not happen and<p>
the company may not be able to  continue as a going concern in which<p>
case you could lose your entire investment. The Growth Stock  Report<p>
does  not  represent  that the information contained in this message<p>
states all material facts or does not omit a material fact necessary<p>
to  make  the  statements  therein  not  misleading.All  information<p>
provided  within  this  ema-il   pertaining  to  investing,  stocks,<p>
securities must  be  understood  as  information  provided  and  not<p>
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subscribers to seek advice from a registered professional securities<p>
representative before deciding  to  trade  in stocks featured within<p>
this em-ail. None of  the  material  within  this  report  shall  be<p>
construed  as  any kind of investment advice or solicitation.Many of<p>
these companies are on  the  verge  of  bankruptcy. You can lose all<p>
your money by investing in this stock. The publisher of  The  Growth<p>
Stock  Report  is  not  a registered investment ADVIS0R. Subscribers<p>
should not view  information  herein  as  legal,  tax, accounting or<p>
investment advice. Any reference to past performance(s) of companies<p>
are specially selected to  be  referenced  based  on  the  favorable<p>
performance  of  these  companies.  You would need perfect timing to<p>
acheive the results in the examples given. There can be no assurance<p>
of that happening. Remember,  as  always, past performance is ne-ver<p>
indicative of future results and a thorough  due  diligence  effort,<p>
including a review of a company's filings, should be completed prior<p>
to  investing.The  Growth Stock Report has no relationship with AUML<p>
and  GSPM.  In  compliance   with   the   Securities  Act  of  1933,<p>
Section17(b),The  Growth  Stock  Report  discloses  the  receipt  of<p>
sixteen thousand D0LLARS from a third  party  (DMI,  Inc.),  not  an<p>
officer,  director  or  affiliate shareholder for the circulation of<p>
this report. Be aware of  an inherent conflict of interest resulting<p>
from such  compensation  due  to  the  fact  that  this  is  a  paid<p>
adver-tisement.  All factual information in this report was gathered<p>
from public sources, including but  not limited to Company Websites,<p>
and Company Press Releases. The Growth Stock  Report  believes  this<p>
information  to  be  reliable  but  can make no gua-rantee as to its<p>
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Recent Press Release Headlines: (Working on Acquisitions)
MONDAY AUGUST 2:   Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc.
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WEDNESDAY JULY 14: Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc.
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Premier Platform Holding Company,Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: PPFM - News)
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investor commitment, and expect to close later this month. This will
enable  them  to complete their planned purchase of 40% of AngioScan
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recognition  of  the  anticipated financing, we will be changing our
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significant news coming  in  the  near  future," they concluded. Mr.
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financing  does not occur, those transactions may not happen and the
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you could lose your entire  investment. The Growth Stock Report does
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Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc. (OTC: PPFM.PK)<P>

Current Price: $.0370<P>

Imagine how well your portfolio would have done if you had the scoop
on the following stocks:
(OTC: AUML): Closed July 9 at $.  10. Traded over $4.00 on August 4.
Ama-zing. (Split 5 for 1 August 5th) Do the math.You may not know  a
lot about investing, but we're sure you can count.
(OTCBB:GSPM):  Closed  June 1st at $.01. Closed July 23rd at $.13 Up
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Think some overowned, overblown  stock  like  Intel is going to move
like  that  anytime  soon?   Ordinary   Investors   Like   You   are
Turbocharging  Their Portfolios With Select High Potential Micro-cap
Stocks.Some of these stocks really do fly.<P>

Let's Look at  Today's  Featured  Company:  Premier  Platform  (OTC:
PPFM.PK)  (Working  on  Acquisitions  and  a  $1.1  Million Investor
Commitment  in  Place)  AngioScan   Biotech  Inc.  has  developed  a
revolutionary early risk screening methodology for  breast  imaging.
PPFM is attempting to Purchase Up to 40% of this company.<P>

About AngioScan Biotech  Inc:  AngioScan  BioTech combines metabolic
and  physiological  science  with  advanced  digital   thermographic
imaging  to create a new form of biotechnology called, the AngioScan
Thermogram. The AngioScan Thermogram System utilizes High Definition
Infrared Medical Imaging  techniques  to  generate accurate clinical
infrared photos of the angiogenic, (relating to the  blood  supply),
patterns   of   pathology   and   overall  physiological  health.  A
proprietary digital computational  analysis  process is performed on
the images in a  lab  to  identify  and  report  on  the  angiogenic
patterns.  The  reports generated are designed to provide physicians
with  critical  information  needed   for   the  early  detection  &
preventive intervention of; breast cancer, vascular disease, thyroid
imbalances, dental issues, and patterns relating to diabetes as well
as other pathological disturbances in the B0DY. The reports also are
instrumental in helping the physician to  easliy  monitor  treatment
progress.(Source: AngioScan Biotech's Website)<P>

Recent Press Release Headlines: (Working on Acquisitions)
MONDAY AUGUST 2:   Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc.
Announces New Financing and Name Change.
WEDNESDAY JULY 14: Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc.
To Increase Stake in EverWell.
WEDNESDAY JULY 7:  Premier Platform Holding Company, Inc.
Announces Acquisition Plans.<P>

Excerpt From the August 2nd Press Release:
LAS VEGAS, Aug. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/
Premier Platform Holding Company,Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: PPFM - News)
is pleased to announce  that  they  have  received  a  $1.1  million
investor commitment, and expect to close later this month. This will
enable  them  to complete their planned purchase of 40% of AngioScan
Biotech Inc. AngioScan  Biotech  Inc.  has developed a revolutionary
"early risk" screening methodology for medical breast  imaging.  "In
recognition  of  the  anticipated financing, we will be changing our
corporate name to  Premier  Medical  Technology Group," said Premier
Platform Holding Company's President  and  CEO  Richard  Hanson  and
Loren  Brink,  head  of  EverWell. "Also, investors should watch for
significant news coming  in  the  near  future," they concluded. Mr.
Brink was formerly  the  CEO  of  Health  Fitness  Corporation  (OTC
Bulletin  Board:  HFIT - News) from 1981 to 2000. They are currently
the largest corporate fitness/wellness  company in the country, with
over 390 sites in the U.S. and Canada.<P>

Will  the  Stock  Blaze  Higher  from here? Many of these low priced
stocks have been absolutely EXPLODING  in price lately. If you think
so, consider taking a good, long look at PPFM.  Remember  the  name,
remember  the  symbol (PPFM). Like many of unknown stocks, one major
news announcement and this stock  could go ballistic!<P>

DISCL-AIMER: Information within this email contains F0RWARD  looking
statements  within  the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act
of 1933 and Section 21B of  the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Any
statements that express  or  involve  discussions  with  respect  to
predictions,     expectations,    beliefs,    plans,    projections,
objectives,goals, ssumptions or future events or performance are not
statements of historical fact and may be F0RWARD looking statements.
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projections at the time the  statements  are  made  that  involve  a
number  of  risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results
or events to  differ  materially  from  those presently anticipated.
F0RWARD looking statements in this action may be identified  through
the   use  of  words  such  as  projects,  foresee,  expects,  will,
anticipates, estimates, believes, understands  or that by statements
indicating certain actions may, could, or might occur. As with  many
micro-cap  stocks, today's company has additional risk factors worth
noting. Premier Platform  Holding  Company  Inc.  is not a reporting
company registered under the Securities Act of 1934. It has not  had
any  operations  or  business  for the past two years. Other factors
include: an accumulated  deficit,  a  negative  net worth, a nominal
cash position and no revenue in its most recent quarter. The company
is relying on financing  to  complete  some  transactions.  If  that
financing  does not occur, those transactions may not happen and the
company may not be able to continue as a going concern in which case
you could lose your entire  investment. The Growth Stock Report does
not represent that the information contained in this message  states
all  material  facts  or  does not omit a material fact necessary to
make the statements therein not misleading. All information provided
within this ema-il pertaining  to investing, stocks, securities must
be understood as information provided and not investment advice. The
Growth Stock Report advises all  readers  and  subscribers  to  seek
advice  from  a  registered  professional  securities representative
before deciding to trade in stocks featured within this em-ail. None
of the material within this report shall be construed as any kind of
investment advice or solicitation.Many of these companies are on the
verge of bankruptcy. You  can  lose  all  your money by investing in
this stock. The publisher of  The  Growth  Stock  Report  is  not  a
registered   investment   ADVIS0R.   Subscribers   should  not  view
information herein as legal,  tax,  accounting or investment advice.
Any reference to past  performance(s)  of  companies  are  specially
selected  to  be  referenced  based  on the favorable performance of
these companies.  You  would  need  perfect  timing  to  acheive the
results in the examples given. There can be  no  assurance  of  that
happening.   Remember,   as   always,  past  performance  is  ne-ver
indicative of future results  and  a  thorough due diligence effort,
including a review of a company's filings, should be completed prior
to investing.The Growth Stock Report has no relationship  with  AUML
and   GSPM.   In   compliance  with  the  Securities  Act  of  1933,
Section17(b),The  Growth  Stock  Report  discloses  the  receipt  of
sixteen thousand D0LLARS  from  a  third  party  (DMI, Inc.), not an
officer, director or affiliate shareholder for  the  circulation  of
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adver-tisement. All factual information in this report was  gathered
from  public sources, including but not limited to Company Websites,
and Company Press Releases.  The  Growth  Stock Report believes this
information to be reliable but can make  no  gua-rantee  as  to  its
accuracy  or  completeness.  Use  of the material within this em-ail
constitutes your acceptance of these terms.<p>




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(OTCBB:CAAS):Closed September 2, 2003  at $4.00. Closed December 31,
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OTCBB:CWTD):Closed January 30, 2004  at  $1.50. Closed February 17th
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About  Genex  Pharmaceutical,  Inc.  (Product  Distribtued  to   400
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Genex  Pharmaceutical,  Inc. is a biomedical technology company with
distinctive proprietary  technology  for  an  orthopedic device that
treats bone-related injuries. Headquartered in Tianjin,  China,  the
Company  manufactures  and  distributes Reconstituted Bone Xenograft
(RBX), to 400 hospitals  in  22 provinces throughout mainland China.
RBX is approved by the State Food and Drug Administration (SFDA)  in
China  (the  Chinese  government  agency  that  regulates  drugs and
medical devices). RBX  offers  a  modern  alternative to traditional
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Recent  Press  Release  Headlines:  (New  Product  Tested  and Large
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*Genex   Pharmaceutical    Adopts    New   Proprietary   Technology,
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*Genex Pharmaceutical Signs Letter of  Intent  to Acquire One of the
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*Genex Pharmaceutical Sees Strong Earnings Growth for 2004 and  2005<p>

*Genex Pharmaceutical 2nd Quarter Revenue Up 432%, Gross  PR0FIT  Up
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*Genex  Pharmaceutical's  Micro-Particle RBX Medical Product Expands
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these small stocks have absolutely EXPLODED in price recently.<p>

*You  may  want  to  consider the "Chinese Fortune Cookie" Strategy:
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                       Stock Symbol (UDVE.PK)<p>

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Gold mining stocks are the hot  flyers of the OTC. Historical cycles
show that a strong rally in gold ignites the major  producers  which
is followed by soaring undervalued OTC gold plays.<p>

Recent News  from  United  Development  International,Inc. (UDVE.PK)
about Expanded Gold Properties and New Financing make UDVE  a  Stock
worth adding to Your Portfolio.<p>

                  Major Headlines and Highlights:<p>

United Development International  Provides  Details  of Primary Gold
Property in Guyana.<p>

LAS  VEGAS--(BUSINESS  WIRE)--Aug.  27,   2004--United   Development
International  (UDVE.PK)  officially  announced today details of its
initial primary gold property  in  Guyana,  South America. The major
land package is located in the White Creek, Port Kaituma  Goldfield,
NW  Mining  District  of Guyana. The Port Kaituma Goldfield is known
for more than a century as the most productive gold-bearing areas in
the NW Mining District of  Guyana,  as  well  as for its recent gold
production from artisanal mining methods.  The White Creek  property
presents high-grade quartz veins that can present gold grades in the
order of tens of ounces of gold per ton. A significant number of old
shafts  and  drifts  (over  30)  were  identified in the area always
associated with  very  high  past  gold  production.  The wall rocks
associated with the quartz veins are also known to carry significant
gold grades.<p>

"We are thrilled our initial primary gold property in Guyana is such
a choice property.  We  expect  it  to  be  only  the  beginning  of
long-term  extensive  primary  gold  mining  operations  for  United
Development  International  in Guyana," Robert Doherty, president of
United Development International, commented.<p>

       Press Release Source: United Development International<p>

United Development International  Receives  Contract for $13,000,000
Financing.<p>

LAS  VEGAS--(BUSINESS  WIRE)--Aug.    12,  2004--United  Development
International (OTC:UDVE.PK -  News)  has  received  a  contract  for
$13,000,000.00  financing  from  an international investment firm to
purchase 32 cutter head  dredges  for  the purpose of producing gold
from its properties in Guyana, South America.<p>

       Press Release Source: United Development International<p>

United Development International Negotiating with Diamond Company to
Joint Venture Diamond Recovery In Guyana.<p>

LAS  VEGAS--(BUSINESS   WIRE)--Aug.   4,   2004--United  Development
International  (OTC:  UDVE.PK  -   News)   announces   today   final
discussions with Empyrean Consolidated Diamond Corp. for the purpose
of  joint venturing the recovery of diamonds in Guyana.  Final terms
are being negotiated. Empyrean  is  negotiating  the purchase of the
rights to extract diamonds on United Development claims and  permits
in  Guyana.  Additionally, United Development is demanding a royalty
on all production.<p>

       Press Release Source: United Development International<p>

UDVE has begun gold production  on property with confirmed resources
valued at over $78 Million. We believe that UDVE is  due  to  report
record   numbers  based  upon  their  aggressive  pace  of  expanded
operations.<p>

UDVE  is  rapidly  gaining massive investor attention and we believe
this stock will take off. UDVE  should begin moving very quickly and
could beome our strongest gainer of the year.<p>

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United Development International  Provides  Details  of Primary Gold
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LAS  VEGAS--(BUSINESS  WIRE)--Aug.  27,   2004--United   Development
International  (UDVE.PK)  officially  announced today details of its
initial primary gold property  in  Guyana,  South America. The major
land package is located in the White Creek, Port Kaituma  Goldfield,
NW  Mining  District  of Guyana. The Port Kaituma Goldfield is known
for more than a century as the most productive gold-bearing areas in
the NW Mining District of  Guyana,  as  well  as for its recent gold
production from artisanal mining methods.  The White Creek  property
presents high-grade quartz veins that can present gold grades in the
order of tens of ounces of gold per ton. A significant number of old
shafts  and  drifts  (over  30)  were  identified in the area always
associated with  very  high  past  gold  production.  The wall rocks
associated with the quartz veins are also known to carry significant
gold grades.<p>

"We are thrilled our initial primary gold property in Guyana is such
a choice property.  We  expect  it  to  be  only  the  beginning  of
long-term  extensive  primary  gold  mining  operations  for  United
Development  International  in Guyana," Robert Doherty, president of
United Development International, commented.<p>

       Press Release Source: United Development International<p>

United Development International  Receives  Contract for $13,000,000
Financing.<p>

LAS  VEGAS--(BUSINESS  WIRE)--Aug.    12,  2004--United  Development
International (OTC:UDVE.PK -  News)  has  received  a  contract  for
$13,000,000.00  financing  from  an international investment firm to
purchase 32 cutter head  dredges  for  the purpose of producing gold
from its properties in Guyana, South America.<p>

       Press Release Source: United Development International<p>

United Development International Negotiating with Diamond Company to
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LAS  VEGAS--(BUSINESS   WIRE)--Aug.   4,   2004--United  Development
International  (OTC:  UDVE.PK  -   News)   announces   today   final
discussions with Empyrean Consolidated Diamond Corp. for the purpose
of  joint venturing the recovery of diamonds in Guyana.  Final terms
are being negotiated. Empyrean  is  negotiating  the purchase of the
rights to extract diamonds on United Development claims and  permits
in  Guyana.  Additionally, United Development is demanding a royalty
on all production.<p>

       Press Release Source: United Development International<p>

UDVE has begun gold production  on property with confirmed resources
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profile.Since we have  re-ceived  compensation  there is an inherent
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Use of the SEED Encryption Algorithm in 
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	Author(s)	: J. Park, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-cms-seed-02.txt
	Pages		: 12
	Date		: 2004-8-30
	
This document specifies the conventions for using the SEED encryption
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To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the
working group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway
because some are way off).&nbsp; Attached is the proposed modification.&nbsp;
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S/MIME Mail Security (smime)

Chair:
     Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>
     Blake Ramsdell <blake@sendmail.com>


Security Area Director:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
     Steve Belovin <smb@research.att.com>

Security Area Advisor:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>

Mailing Lists:
     General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org
     To Subscribe:       ietf-smime-request@imc.org
     Archive:            http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/

Description of Working Group:

The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms was be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base specifications.

The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic algorithm independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the use of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.

To aid implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will be collected and published. Some of the examples will include structures and signed attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) (RFC 2634) document.

CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of previously distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for the distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm independent.

To aid initial determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities a specification will be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based on the X.509 certificate and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working Group.

The working group will perform necessary interoperability testing to rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft Standard. The CMS specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must progress to Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard in 2005.

Milestones:

History
     Submit CMS compressed data content type a Proposed Standard.
     Submit security label usage specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit update to CMS as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit CMS Algorithms as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit AES key wrap algorithm description as Informational RFC.
     Last call on X.400 CMS wrapper specification.
     Last call on X.400 transport specification.
     Last call on HMAC key wrap description specification.
     Last call on RSA OAEP algorithm specification.
     Last call on AES algorithm specification.
     Last call on update to MSG.
     First draft of update to CERT.
     First draft of CMS and ESS examples document.
     First draft of S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix.
     First draft of RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit mail list key distribution as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit HMAC key wrap description as Proposed Standard.
     Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit AES algorithm specification as Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 CMS wrapper specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.
     Last call on CMS and ESS examples document.
     Sumbit update to CERT as Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit update to MSG as Proposed Standard.
     First draft of RSA KEM algorithm specification.
     Last call on RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit RSA PSS algorithm specification as Proposed Standard

September 04
     Submit CMS and ESS examples document as Informational RFC
     First draft of S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

October 04
     Working Group Last Call for S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

December 04
     Submit S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational RFC

January 05
     Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix 

February 05
     Request advancement of CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CMS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of ESS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CERT to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of MSG to Draft Standard
     Last call on RSA KEM algorithm specification

January 06
     Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed Standard
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How about including a S/MIME gateway task?=20
The OpenGroup and Blake B are reportedly working on such a thing.

What happened with the gateway BOF that Phill H-B wrote about sometime =
ago?

An S/MIME gateway standard is really needed as S/MIME end-to-end =
encryption is not going anywhere.

Anders
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Sean P. Turner=20
  To: SMIME=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 01:41
  Subject: Charter Modification


  All,

  To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the =
working group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway =
because some are way off).  Attached is the proposed modification.  =
Please respond with any comments by  Friday.

  Cheers,

  spt=20



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-----



  S/MIME Mail Security (smime)

  Chair:
       Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>
       Blake Ramsdell <blake@sendmail.com>


  Security Area Director:
       Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
       Steve Belovin <smb@research.att.com>

  Security Area Advisor:
       Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>

  Mailing Lists:
       General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org
       To Subscribe:       ietf-smime-request@imc.org
       Archive:            http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/

  Description of Working Group:

  The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards =
that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the =
specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms =
was be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base =
specifications.

  The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic =
algorithm independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any =
algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a =
specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the =
use of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.

  To aid implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will =
be collected and published. Some of the examples will include structures =
and signed attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) =
(RFC 2634) document.

  CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of =
previously distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for =
the distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message =
recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of =
symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm =
independent.

  To aid initial determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities =
a specification will be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be =
stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based on the X.509 certificate =
and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working Group.

  The working group will perform necessary interoperability testing to =
rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft Standard. The CMS =
specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must progress to =
Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can =
progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working =
Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard =
in 2005.

  Milestones:

  History
       Submit CMS compressed data content type a Proposed Standard.
       Submit security label usage specification as Informational RFC.
       Submit elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational =
RFC.
       Submit update to CMS as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit CMS Algorithms as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit AES key wrap algorithm description as Informational RFC.
       Last call on X.400 CMS wrapper specification.
       Last call on X.400 transport specification.
       Last call on HMAC key wrap description specification.
       Last call on RSA OAEP algorithm specification.
       Last call on AES algorithm specification.
       Last call on update to MSG.
       First draft of update to CERT.
       First draft of CMS and ESS examples document.
       First draft of S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix.
       First draft of RSA PSS algorithm specification.
       Submit mail list key distribution as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit HMAC key wrap description as Proposed Standard.
       Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed Standard.
       Sumbit AES algorithm specification as Proposed Standard.
       Submit X.400 CMS wrapper specification as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.
       Last call on CMS and ESS examples document.
       Sumbit update to CERT as Proposed Standard.
       Sumbit update to MSG as Proposed Standard.
       First draft of RSA KEM algorithm specification.
       Last call on RSA PSS algorithm specification.
       Submit RSA PSS algorithm specification as Proposed Standard

  September 04
       Submit CMS and ESS examples document as Informational RFC
       First draft of S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

  October 04
       Working Group Last Call for S/MIME Capabilities Certificate =
Extension

  December 04
       Submit S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational =
RFC

  January 05
       Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix=20

  February 05
       Request advancement of CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of CMS to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of ESS to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of CERT to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of MSG to Draft Standard
       Last call on RSA KEM algorithm specification

  January 06
       Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed Standard
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The OpenGroup and Blake B&nbsp;are =
reportedly=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Phill H-B=20
wrote about sometime ago?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An S/MIME gateway standard is really =
needed as=20
S/MIME end-to-end encryption is not going anywhere.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dturners@ieca.com href=3D"mailto:turners@ieca.com">Sean P. =
Turner</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dietf-smime@imc.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:ietf-smime@imc.org">SMIME</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 31, 2004=20
01:41</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Charter =
Modification</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>All,<BR><BR>To include Stefan's work in the working =
group we=20
  need to modify the working group's charter (we also needed to update =
the dates=20
  anyway because some are way off).&nbsp; Attached is the proposed=20
  modification.&nbsp; Please respond with any comments by&nbsp;=20
  Friday.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>spt <BR>
  <P>
  <HR>

  <P></P><BR>S/MIME Mail Security=20
  (smime)<BR><BR>Chair:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sean Turner=20
  &lt;turners@ieca.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Blake Ramsdell=20
  &lt;blake@sendmail.com&gt;<BR><BR><BR>Security Area=20
  Director:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
  &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Steve Belovin =

  &lt;smb@research.att.com&gt;<BR><BR>Security Area=20
  Advisor:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
  &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR><BR>Mailing =
Lists:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To=20
  Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  ietf-smime-request@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
Archive:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
  http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/<BR><BR>Description of Working =
Group:<BR><BR>The=20
  S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards that =

  comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the =
specification=20
  update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms was be =
selected.=20
  Current efforts update and build upon these base =
specifications.<BR><BR>The=20
  Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic =
algorithm=20
  independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any =
algorithm. To=20
  ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a specification =
that=20
  describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the use of additional=20
  cryptographic algorithms will be developed.<BR><BR>To aid =
implementers,=20
  documents containing example output for CMS will be collected and =
published.=20
  Some of the examples will include structures and signed attributes =
defined in=20
  the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) (RFC 2634) document.<BR><BR>CMS, =
as well=20
  as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of previously =
distributed=20
  symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for the distribution of=20
  symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message recipients will be=20
  developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of symmetric =
key-encryption=20
  keys. The specification will be algorithm independent.<BR><BR>To aid =
initial=20
  determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities a =
specification will=20
  be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be stored and asserted in =
X.509=20
  certificates based on the X.509 certificate and CRL profile developed =
by the=20
  PKIX Working Group.<BR><BR>The working group will perform necessary=20
  interoperability testing to rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications =
to Draft=20
  Standard. The CMS specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile =
must=20
  progress to Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME =
specifications can=20
  progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX =
Working=20
  Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft =
Standard in=20
  2005.<BR><BR>Milestones:<BR><BR>History<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit CMS=20
  compressed data content type a Proposed =
Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Submit security label usage specification as Informational=20
  RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit elliptic curve algorithm =
specification=20
  as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit update to CMS =
as a=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS Algorithms =
as a=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit AES key wrap =
algorithm=20
  description as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
  X.400 CMS wrapper specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on=20
  X.400 transport specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on HMAC=20
  key wrap description specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
  RSA OAEP algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on AES=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call on =
update to=20
  MSG.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of update to=20
  CERT.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of CMS and ESS examples=20
  document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME version =
3.1=20
  interoperability matrix.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of =
RSA PSS=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit mail list =
key=20
  distribution as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit HMAC=20
  key wrap description as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
  RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed=20
  Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sumbit AES algorithm =
specification as=20
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wrapper=20
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as=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of RSA KEM=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call on RSA =
PSS=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit RSA PSS =
algorithm=20
  specification as Proposed Standard<BR><BR>September=20
  04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS and ESS examples document as =

  Informational RFC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME=20
  Capabilities Certificate Extension<BR><BR>October=20
  04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Working Group Last Call for S/MIME =
Capabilities=20
  Certificate Extension<BR><BR>December 04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
  S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational =
RFC<BR><BR>January=20
  05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Final S/MIME version 3.1 =
interoperability=20
  matrix <BR><BR>February 05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request =
advancement of=20
  CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request=20
  advancement of CMS to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Request=20
  advancement of ESS to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Request=20
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                         Current Price: .05<P>
                                  
                  Gold Stock Super-Hot Mining Play<P>
                                  
   PriceWaterhouseCoopers analysts confirm worldwide mining boom!<P>
                                  
   Record mining PR0FITS and industry-wide merger mania positions<P>
                                  
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gained an average  of  476%?e  are  expecting earth-shattering news
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(South  America)  including a 25-mile property with proven, verified
reserves exceeding  400,000  ounces  of  gold  valued  at  over $100
MILLI0N<P>

The Company is in a rapidly expanding state of gold production while
generating revenue and positive cash flow. UDVE has literally struck
gold with major funding news announced last week that  provides  $13
MILLI0N  for  the  purchase  of additional mining equipment enabling
accelerated production and record breaking PR0FITS.<P>

UDVE's breakout year is perfectly timed and will not go unnoticed as
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well-positioned gold producers with similar structure to UDVE.<P>

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managers and securities analysts agree  that the junior mining GR0UP
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Judging by the numbers, the value of UDVE's proven  reserves  should
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batches  of  positive  developments  regarding  production,  reserve
valuations, and  additional  property  acquisitions.  Combine  these
activities  with  classic  evidence of 60- day accumulation and it's
blatantly obvious that huge news  is  about to be released that will
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United Development International (UDVE.PK)<P>
                                  
                         Current Price: .05<P>
                                  
                  Gold Stock Super-Hot Mining Play<P>
                                  
   PriceWaterhouseCoopers analysts confirm worldwide mining boom!<P>
                                  
   Record mining PR0FITS and industry-wide merger mania positions<P>
                                  
   UDVE with huge reserves and expanded production to jump 500%.<P>

Our precious metals and mining HOT-PICKS for the last 12 months have
gained an average  of  476%?e  are  expecting earth-shattering news
that will send shockwaves through our latest pick UDVE.<P>

UDVE controls 3 of the largest  gold  mining  properties  in  Guyana
(South  America)  including a 25-mile property with proven, verified
reserves exceeding  400,000  ounces  of  gold  valued  at  over $100
MILLI0N<P>

The Company is in a rapidly expanding state of gold production while
generating revenue and positive cash flow. UDVE has literally struck
gold with major funding news announced last week that  provides  $13
MILLI0N  for  the  purchase  of additional mining equipment enabling
accelerated production and record breaking PR0FITS.<P>

UDVE's breakout year is perfectly timed and will not go unnoticed as
PriceWaterhouseCoopers' head  mining  analyst,  Paul  Murphy, stated
just last month; "We seem to be at the start  of  the  first  mining
boom  of  the  twenty-  first century." This statement accompanied a
PriceWaterhouse report detailing the  record doubling of PR0FITS for
mining companies in 2003 with an even brighter outlook for 2004.<P>

Hot gold stocks are no longer taking a back seat  while  merger  and
takeover  activity is on the rise. Investors have scored major gains
on  several  recent   highly-publicized   battles   for  control  of
well-positioned gold producers with similar structure to UDVE.<P>

REUTERS Newswire reported last quarter that mergers and acquisitions
in gold mining companies are being completed  at  a  record  frantic
pace  with  the expectation of this trend increasing. Large-cap fund
managers and securities analysts agree  that the junior mining GR0UP
is especially more vulnerable to a b?y-out or takeover scenario  in
today's  healthy  mining  environment.   UDVE is viewed as a serious
takeover target based on their $140 MILLI0N revenue forecast, as the
price for this undervalued  asset  play  has  not even come close to
reaching its true potential.<P>

Judging by the numbers, the value of UDVE's proven  reserves  should
push  the  share  price higher with greater upside expected to match
their fast-paced growth. UDVE has  been heating up the newswire with
batches  of  positive  developments  regarding  production,  reserve
valuations, and  additional  property  acquisitions.  Combine  these
activities  with  classic  evidence of 60- day accumulation and it's
blatantly obvious that huge news  is  about to be released that will
have an explosive impact on shareholder value.<P>

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giving  investors  the  necessary  knowledge  to  make  rational and
PR0FITABLE investment decisions.  This  publication does not provide
an analysis of the Company's financial position and is not an  0FFER
to  b?y or sell securities.  Investing in securities is speculative
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made  after  consulting  with  your  investment  ADVIS0R  and  after
reviewing the financial statements of the company.  The  information
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analysis of the featured company and RECC0MENDS a complete review of
the  Company's regulatory filings at sec.gov. The information herein
contains  future  looking  statements  and  information  within  the
meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E
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regarding expected continual  growth  of  the  featured company. Any
statements that express  or  involve  discussions  with  respect  to
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Sean:
=20
With respect to the scoping words related to scext-00.txt:  It may be =
premature
to include the text "... stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based =
on
...".  Actually putting the data "in" the certificate has been raised in =
the
list as an issue, and including it now may raise an unnecessary red flag =
(esp
with PKIX).  Suggest being more generic until scext becomes more stable, =
eg.:  =20
=20
"To aid initial determination of a recipient's cryptographic and other =
S/MIME
related capabilities, a specification will be developed allowing these
capabilities to be distributed using method(s) in addition to that =
currently
specified."  or similar.
=20
tony
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On
Behalf Of Sean P. Turner
Sent: August 30, 2004 7:42 PM
To: SMIME
Subject: Charter Modification


All,

To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the =
working
group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway because some =
are way
off).  Attached is the proposed modification.  Please respond with any =
comments
by  Friday.

Cheers,

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Anders,
=20
I wasn't at the BOF you mentioned but as I understand it the BOF was
scoped for signing/authenticating e-mail.
Draft Charter:
http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00000.html
Minutes: http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00025.html
=20
S/MIME gateways could use all existing S/MIME specifications and not be
limited to only signing outbound e-mail. e.g. Encryption over the
untrusted networks that transports messages between domains that might
otherwise have some level of trust.
=20
I would also like to see an interoperable S/MIME
Gateway||Domains||Entities standard or specification. I have had some
past experience at making a limited set of S/MIME gateway software talk
to each other reliably. This was more challenging at that time than it
should have been.
=20
S/MIME Gateway signing and encryption is quite possible in a
closed-community of domains today - example: http://e.govt.nz/see/mail/
(Since November 2000)
=20
If it was possible to solve key management, PKI trust and legacy
interoperability (including mailing-list behaviour) using something that
scales to an open community then an S/MIME gateway approach could
certainly work in the open community. Solving all three of these
problems isn't necessarily easy.
=20
Regards,
Craig
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org
[mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Anders Rundgren
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2004 6:09 p.m.
To: Sean P. Turner; SMIME
Subject: Re: Charter Modification


How about including a S/MIME gateway task?=20
The OpenGroup and Blake B are reportedly working on such a thing.
=20
What happened with the gateway BOF that Phill H-B wrote about sometime
ago?
=20
An S/MIME gateway standard is really needed as S/MIME end-to-end
encryption is not going anywhere.
=20
Anders

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Sean P. Turner <mailto:turners@ieca.com> =20
To: SMIME <mailto:ietf-smime@imc.org> =20
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 01:41
Subject: Charter Modification


All,

To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the
working group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway
because some are way off).  Attached is the proposed modification.
Please respond with any comments by  Friday.

Cheers,

spt=20




  _____ =20





S/MIME Mail Security (smime)

Chair:
     Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>
     Blake Ramsdell <blake@sendmail.com>


Security Area Director:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
     Steve Belovin <smb@research.att.com>

Security Area Advisor:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>

Mailing Lists:
     General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org
     To Subscribe:       ietf-smime-request@imc.org
     Archive:            http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/

Description of Working Group:

The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards
that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the
specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms
was be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base
specifications.

The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic
algorithm independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any
algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a
specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the
use of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.

To aid implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will be
collected and published. Some of the examples will include structures
and signed attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS)
(RFC 2634) document.

CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of previously
distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for the
distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message
recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of
symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm
independent.

To aid initial determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities a
specification will be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be
stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based on the X.509 certificate
and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working Group.

The working group will perform necessary interoperability testing to
rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft Standard. The CMS
specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must progress to
Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can
progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working
Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard
in 2005.

Milestones:

History
     Submit CMS compressed data content type a Proposed Standard.
     Submit security label usage specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit update to CMS as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit CMS Algorithms as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit AES key wrap algorithm description as Informational RFC.
     Last call on X.400 CMS wrapper specification.
     Last call on X.400 transport specification.
     Last call on HMAC key wrap description specification.
     Last call on RSA OAEP algorithm specification.
     Last call on AES algorithm specification.
     Last call on update to MSG.
     First draft of update to CERT.
     First draft of CMS and ESS examples document.
     First draft of S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix.
     First draft of RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit mail list key distribution as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit HMAC key wrap description as Proposed Standard.
     Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit AES algorithm specification as Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 CMS wrapper specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.
     Last call on CMS and ESS examples document.
     Sumbit update to CERT as Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit update to MSG as Proposed Standard.
     First draft of RSA KEM algorithm specification.
     Last call on RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit RSA PSS algorithm specification as Proposed Standard

September 04
     Submit CMS and ESS examples document as Informational RFC
     First draft of S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

October 04
     Working Group Last Call for S/MIME Capabilities Certificate
Extension

December 04
     Submit S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational
RFC

January 05
     Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix=20

February 05
     Request advancement of CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CMS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of ESS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CERT to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of MSG to Draft Standard
     Last call on RSA KEM algorithm specification

January 06
     Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed Standard


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was&nbsp;scoped for&nbsp;signing/authenticating =
e-mail.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Draft=20
Charter: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00000.html">http:=
//www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00000.html</A></FONT></SPAN></=
DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Minutes: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00025.html">http:=
//www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00025.html</A></FONT></SPAN></=
DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>S/MIME=20
gateways could use all existing S/MIME specifications and not be limited =
to only=20
signing outbound e-mail. e.g. Encryption over the untrusted =
networks&nbsp;that=20
transports messages between domains that might otherwise have some level =
of=20
trust.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
would also like to see an interoperable&nbsp;S/MIME =
Gateway||Domains||Entities=20
standard or specification. I have had some past experience at making a =
limited=20
set of S/MIME gateway software talk to each other reliably. This was =
more=20
challenging at that time than it should have been.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>S/MIME=20
Gateway signing and encryption&nbsp;is quite possible in a =
closed-community of=20
domains today -&nbsp;example:&nbsp;<A=20
href=3D"http://e.govt.nz/see/mail/">http://e.govt.nz/see/mail/</A>&nbsp;(=
Since=20
November 2000)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>If it=20
was possible to&nbsp;solve key management,&nbsp;PKI trust and legacy=20
interoperability (including mailing-list behaviour) using =
something&nbsp;that=20
scales to an open community then an S/MIME =
gateway&nbsp;approach&nbsp;could=20
certainly work in the open community. Solving all&nbsp;three of these =
problems=20
isn't necessarily easy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Craig</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] =
<B>On=20
  Behalf Of </B>Anders Rundgren<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 31 August 2004 =
6:09=20
  p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> Sean P. Turner; SMIME<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Charter=20
  Modification<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about including a S/MIME gateway=20
  task?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The OpenGroup and Blake B&nbsp;are =
reportedly=20
  working on such a thing.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What happened with the gateway BOF =
that Phill H-B=20
  wrote about sometime ago?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An S/MIME gateway standard is really =
needed as=20
  S/MIME end-to-end encryption is not going anywhere.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anders</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dturners@ieca.com href=3D"mailto:turners@ieca.com">Sean P. =
Turner</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dietf-smime@imc.org=20
    href=3D"mailto:ietf-smime@imc.org">SMIME</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 31, =
2004=20
    01:41</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Charter =
Modification</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>All,<BR><BR>To=20
    include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the =
working=20
    group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway because =
some are=20
    way off).&nbsp; Attached is the proposed modification.&nbsp; Please =
respond=20
    with any comments by&nbsp; Friday.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>spt <BR>
    <P>
    <HR>

    <P></P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><BR>S/MIME =
Mail Security=20
    (smime)<BR><BR>Chair:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sean Turner=20
    &lt;turners@ieca.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Blake Ramsdell=20
    &lt;blake@sendmail.com&gt;<BR><BR><BR>Security Area=20
    Director:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
    &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Steve =
Belovin=20
    &lt;smb@research.att.com&gt;<BR><BR>Security Area=20
    Advisor:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
    &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR><BR>Mailing=20
    Lists:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; General Discussion:=20
    ietf-smime@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To=20
    Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    ietf-smime-request@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    =
Archive:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
    http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/<BR><BR>Description of Working=20
    Group:<BR><BR>The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of =
Proposed=20
    Standards that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As =
part of the=20
    specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" =
algorithms was=20
    be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base=20
    specifications.<BR><BR>The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC =
3852) is=20
    cryptographic algorithm independent, yet there is always more than =
one way=20
    to use any algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm =
should have=20
    a specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for =
the use=20
    of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.<BR><BR>To =
aid=20
    implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will be =
collected=20
    and published. Some of the examples will include structures and =
signed=20
    attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) (RFC 2634) =

    document.<BR><BR>CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit =
the use=20
    of previously distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. =
Specifications for=20
    the distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple =
message=20
    recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of =

    symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm=20
    independent.<BR><BR>To aid initial determination of recipient's=20
    cryptographic capabilities a specification will be developed =
allowing S/MIME=20
    capabilities to be stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based =
on the=20
    X.509 certificate and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working=20
    Group.<BR><BR>The working group will perform necessary =
interoperability=20
    testing to rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft =
Standard. The=20
    CMS specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must =
progress to=20
    Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can =
progress=20
    to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working =
Group, the=20
    S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard in=20
    2005.<BR><BR>Milestones:<BR><BR>History<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
    CMS compressed data content type a Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit security label usage=20
    specification as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
    elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational=20
    RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit update to CMS as a Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS Algorithms as a =
Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit AES key wrap algorithm=20
    description as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    X.400 CMS wrapper specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    X.400 transport specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on HMAC=20
    key wrap description specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    RSA OAEP algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    AES algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on update=20
    to MSG.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of update to=20
    CERT.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of CMS and ESS =
examples=20
    document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME version =
3.1=20
    interoperability matrix.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of =
RSA PSS=20
    algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit mail =
list key=20
    distribution as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit HMAC=20
    key wrap description as Proposed =
Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sumbit AES algorithm =
specification as=20
    Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit X.400 CMS =
wrapper=20
    specification as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
    X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Last=20
    call on CMS and ESS examples document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sumbit=20
    update to CERT as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sumbit=20
    update to MSG as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
First draft=20
    of RSA KEM algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    RSA PSS algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit =
RSA PSS=20
    algorithm specification as Proposed Standard<BR><BR>September=20
    04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS and ESS examples document =
as=20
    Informational RFC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME=20
    Capabilities Certificate Extension<BR><BR>October=20
    04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Working Group Last Call for S/MIME=20
    Capabilities Certificate Extension<BR><BR>December=20
    04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit S/MIME Capabilities =
Certificate=20
    Extension as Informational RFC<BR><BR>January =
05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix <BR><BR>February=20
    05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of CMS Algorithms =
to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
CMS to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
ESS to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
CERT to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
MSG to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call on RSA KEM =
algorithm=20
    specification<BR><BR>January 06<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit =
RSA KEM=20
    algorithm specification as Proposed=20
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From: "Craig McGregor" <Craig.McGregor@treasury.govt.nz>
To: "Anders Rundgren" <anders.rundgren@telia.com>
Cc: "Sean P. Turner" <turners@ieca.com>, "SMIME" <ietf-smime@imc.org>
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Anders,
=20
I wasn't at the BOF you mentioned but as I understand it the BOF was
scoped for signing/authenticating e-mail.
Draft Charter:
http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00000.html
Minutes: http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00025.html
=20
S/MIME gateways could use all existing S/MIME specifications and not be
limited to only signing outbound e-mail. e.g. Encryption over the
untrusted networks that transports messages between domains that might
otherwise have some level of trust.
=20
I would also like to see an interoperable S/MIME
Gateway||Domains||Entities standard or specification. I have had some
past experience at making a limited set of S/MIME gateway software talk
to each other reliably. This was more challenging at that time than it
should have been.
=20
S/MIME Gateway signing and encryption is quite possible in a
closed-community of domains today - example: http://e.govt.nz/see/mail/
(Since November 2000)
=20
If it was possible to solve key management, PKI trust and legacy
interoperability (including mailing-list behaviour) using something that
scales to an open community then an S/MIME gateway approach could
certainly work in the open community. Solving all three of these
problems isn't necessarily easy.
=20
Regards,
Craig
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org
[mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Anders Rundgren
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2004 6:09 p.m.
To: Sean P. Turner; SMIME
Subject: Re: Charter Modification


How about including a S/MIME gateway task?=20
The OpenGroup and Blake B are reportedly working on such a thing.
=20
What happened with the gateway BOF that Phill H-B wrote about sometime
ago?
=20
An S/MIME gateway standard is really needed as S/MIME end-to-end
encryption is not going anywhere.
=20
Anders

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Sean P. Turner <mailto:turners@ieca.com> =20
To: SMIME <mailto:ietf-smime@imc.org> =20
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 01:41
Subject: Charter Modification


All,

To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the
working group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway
because some are way off).  Attached is the proposed modification.
Please respond with any comments by  Friday.

Cheers,

spt=20




  _____ =20





S/MIME Mail Security (smime)

Chair:
     Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>
     Blake Ramsdell <blake@sendmail.com>


Security Area Director:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
     Steve Belovin <smb@research.att.com>

Security Area Advisor:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>

Mailing Lists:
     General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org
     To Subscribe:       ietf-smime-request@imc.org
     Archive:            http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/

Description of Working Group:

The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards
that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the
specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms
was be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base
specifications.

The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic
algorithm independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any
algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a
specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the
use of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.

To aid implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will be
collected and published. Some of the examples will include structures
and signed attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS)
(RFC 2634) document.

CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of previously
distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for the
distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message
recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of
symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm
independent.

To aid initial determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities a
specification will be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be
stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based on the X.509 certificate
and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working Group.

The working group will perform necessary interoperability testing to
rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft Standard. The CMS
specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must progress to
Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can
progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working
Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard
in 2005.

Milestones:

History
     Submit CMS compressed data content type a Proposed Standard.
     Submit security label usage specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit update to CMS as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit CMS Algorithms as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit AES key wrap algorithm description as Informational RFC.
     Last call on X.400 CMS wrapper specification.
     Last call on X.400 transport specification.
     Last call on HMAC key wrap description specification.
     Last call on RSA OAEP algorithm specification.
     Last call on AES algorithm specification.
     Last call on update to MSG.
     First draft of update to CERT.
     First draft of CMS and ESS examples document.
     First draft of S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix.
     First draft of RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit mail list key distribution as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit HMAC key wrap description as Proposed Standard.
     Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit AES algorithm specification as Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 CMS wrapper specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.
     Last call on CMS and ESS examples document.
     Sumbit update to CERT as Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit update to MSG as Proposed Standard.
     First draft of RSA KEM algorithm specification.
     Last call on RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit RSA PSS algorithm specification as Proposed Standard

September 04
     Submit CMS and ESS examples document as Informational RFC
     First draft of S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

October 04
     Working Group Last Call for S/MIME Capabilities Certificate
Extension

December 04
     Submit S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational
RFC

January 05
     Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix=20

February 05
     Request advancement of CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CMS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of ESS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CERT to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of MSG to Draft Standard
     Last call on RSA KEM algorithm specification

January 06
     Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed Standard


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Anders,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
wasn't at the BOF you mentioned but&nbsp;as I understand it the BOF=20
was&nbsp;scoped for&nbsp;signing/authenticating =
e-mail.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Draft=20
Charter: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00000.html">http:=
//www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00000.html</A></FONT></SPAN></=
DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Minutes: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00025.html">http:=
//www.imc.org/ietf-mailsig/mail-archive/msg00025.html</A></FONT></SPAN></=
DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>S/MIME=20
gateways could use all existing S/MIME specifications and not be limited =
to only=20
signing outbound e-mail. e.g. Encryption over the untrusted =
networks&nbsp;that=20
transports messages between domains that might otherwise have some level =
of=20
trust.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
would also like to see an interoperable&nbsp;S/MIME =
Gateway||Domains||Entities=20
standard or specification. I have had some past experience at making a =
limited=20
set of S/MIME gateway software talk to each other reliably. This was =
more=20
challenging at that time than it should have been.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>S/MIME=20
Gateway signing and encryption&nbsp;is quite possible in a =
closed-community of=20
domains today -&nbsp;example:&nbsp;<A=20
href=3D"http://e.govt.nz/see/mail/">http://e.govt.nz/see/mail/</A>&nbsp;(=
Since=20
November 2000)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>If it=20
was possible to&nbsp;solve key management,&nbsp;PKI trust and legacy=20
interoperability (including mailing-list behaviour) using =
something&nbsp;that=20
scales to an open community then an S/MIME =
gateway&nbsp;approach&nbsp;could=20
certainly work in the open community. Solving all&nbsp;three of these =
problems=20
isn't necessarily easy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D268164020-31082004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Craig</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
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  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] =
<B>On=20
  Behalf Of </B>Anders Rundgren<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 31 August 2004 =
6:09=20
  p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> Sean P. Turner; SMIME<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
Charter=20
  Modification<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about including a S/MIME gateway=20
  task?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The OpenGroup and Blake B&nbsp;are =
reportedly=20
  working on such a thing.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What happened with the gateway BOF =
that Phill H-B=20
  wrote about sometime ago?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An S/MIME gateway standard is really =
needed as=20
  S/MIME end-to-end encryption is not going anywhere.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anders</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dturners@ieca.com href=3D"mailto:turners@ieca.com">Sean P. =
Turner</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dietf-smime@imc.org=20
    href=3D"mailto:ietf-smime@imc.org">SMIME</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 31, =
2004=20
    01:41</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Charter =
Modification</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>All,<BR><BR>To=20
    include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the =
working=20
    group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway because =
some are=20
    way off).&nbsp; Attached is the proposed modification.&nbsp; Please =
respond=20
    with any comments by&nbsp; Friday.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>spt <BR>
    <P>
    <HR>

    <P></P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT><BR>S/MIME =
Mail Security=20
    (smime)<BR><BR>Chair:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sean Turner=20
    &lt;turners@ieca.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Blake Ramsdell=20
    &lt;blake@sendmail.com&gt;<BR><BR><BR>Security Area=20
    Director:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
    &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Steve =
Belovin=20
    &lt;smb@research.att.com&gt;<BR><BR>Security Area=20
    Advisor:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
    &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR><BR>Mailing=20
    Lists:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; General Discussion:=20
    ietf-smime@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To=20
    Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    ietf-smime-request@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    =
Archive:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
    http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/<BR><BR>Description of Working=20
    Group:<BR><BR>The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of =
Proposed=20
    Standards that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As =
part of the=20
    specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" =
algorithms was=20
    be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base=20
    specifications.<BR><BR>The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC =
3852) is=20
    cryptographic algorithm independent, yet there is always more than =
one way=20
    to use any algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm =
should have=20
    a specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for =
the use=20
    of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.<BR><BR>To =
aid=20
    implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will be =
collected=20
    and published. Some of the examples will include structures and =
signed=20
    attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) (RFC 2634) =

    document.<BR><BR>CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit =
the use=20
    of previously distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. =
Specifications for=20
    the distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple =
message=20
    recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of =

    symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm=20
    independent.<BR><BR>To aid initial determination of recipient's=20
    cryptographic capabilities a specification will be developed =
allowing S/MIME=20
    capabilities to be stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based =
on the=20
    X.509 certificate and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working=20
    Group.<BR><BR>The working group will perform necessary =
interoperability=20
    testing to rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft =
Standard. The=20
    CMS specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must =
progress to=20
    Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can =
progress=20
    to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working =
Group, the=20
    S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard in=20
    2005.<BR><BR>Milestones:<BR><BR>History<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
    CMS compressed data content type a Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit security label usage=20
    specification as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
    elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational=20
    RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit update to CMS as a Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS Algorithms as a =
Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit AES key wrap algorithm=20
    description as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    X.400 CMS wrapper specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    X.400 transport specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on HMAC=20
    key wrap description specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    RSA OAEP algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    AES algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on update=20
    to MSG.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of update to=20
    CERT.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of CMS and ESS =
examples=20
    document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME version =
3.1=20
    interoperability matrix.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of =
RSA PSS=20
    algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit mail =
list key=20
    distribution as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit HMAC=20
    key wrap description as Proposed =
Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed=20
    Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sumbit AES algorithm =
specification as=20
    Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit X.400 CMS =
wrapper=20
    specification as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
    X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Last=20
    call on CMS and ESS examples document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sumbit=20
    update to CERT as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Sumbit=20
    update to MSG as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
First draft=20
    of RSA KEM algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
    RSA PSS algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit =
RSA PSS=20
    algorithm specification as Proposed Standard<BR><BR>September=20
    04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS and ESS examples document =
as=20
    Informational RFC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME=20
    Capabilities Certificate Extension<BR><BR>October=20
    04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Working Group Last Call for S/MIME=20
    Capabilities Certificate Extension<BR><BR>December=20
    04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit S/MIME Capabilities =
Certificate=20
    Extension as Informational RFC<BR><BR>January =
05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix <BR><BR>February=20
    05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of CMS Algorithms =
to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
CMS to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
ESS to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
CERT to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request advancement of =
MSG to=20
    Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call on RSA KEM =
algorithm=20
    specification<BR><BR>January 06<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit =
RSA KEM=20
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Subject: RE: Charter Modification
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Sean:
=20
With respect to the scoping words related to scext-00.txt:  It may be =
premature
to include the text "... stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based =
on
...".  Actually putting the data "in" the certificate has been raised in =
the
list as an issue, and including it now may raise an unnecessary red flag =
(esp
with PKIX).  Suggest being more generic until scext becomes more stable, =
eg.:  =20
=20
"To aid initial determination of a recipient's cryptographic and other =
S/MIME
related capabilities, a specification will be developed allowing these
capabilities to be distributed using method(s) in addition to that =
currently
specified."  or similar.
=20
tony
=20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org =
[mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On
Behalf Of Sean P. Turner
Sent: August 30, 2004 7:42 PM
To: SMIME
Subject: Charter Modification


All,

To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the =
working
group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway because some =
are way
off).  Attached is the proposed modification.  Please respond with any =
comments
by  Friday.

Cheers,

spt=20



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size=3D2>With=20
respect to the scoping words&nbsp;related to scext-00.txt:&nbsp; It may =
be=20
premature&nbsp;to include the text "... stored and asserted in X.509=20
certificates based on ...".&nbsp; Actually putting the data "in" the =
certificate=20
has been raised in the list as an issue, and<SPAN =
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class=3D351303419-31082004>an=20
</SPAN><SPAN class=3D351303419-31082004>unnecessary </SPAN>red flag (esp =
with=20
PKIX).&nbsp;&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D351303419-31082004>S</SPAN>uggest being =
more=20
generic&nbsp;until scext becomes more stable, eg.:&nbsp;=20
&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D983071719-31082004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D983071719-31082004>"</SPAN>To aid initial determination =
of&nbsp;<SPAN=20
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class=3D983071719-31082004> </SPAN><SPAN class=3D983071719-31082004>and =
other S/MIME=20
related </SPAN>capabilities<SPAN =
class=3D983071719-31082004>,</SPAN>&nbsp;<SPAN=20
class=3D351303419-31082004>a </SPAN>specification will be developed=20
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to=20
be&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D983071719-31082004>distributed using method(s) in =
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size=3D2>tony</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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needed to=20
  update the dates anyway because some are way off).&nbsp; Attached is =
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How about including a S/MIME gateway task?=20
The OpenGroup and Blake B are reportedly working on such a thing.

What happened with the gateway BOF that Phill H-B wrote about sometime =
ago?

An S/MIME gateway standard is really needed as S/MIME end-to-end =
encryption is not going anywhere.

Anders
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Sean P. Turner=20
  To: SMIME=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 01:41
  Subject: Charter Modification


  All,

  To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the =
working group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway =
because some are way off).  Attached is the proposed modification.  =
Please respond with any comments by  Friday.

  Cheers,

  spt=20



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  S/MIME Mail Security (smime)

  Chair:
       Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>
       Blake Ramsdell <blake@sendmail.com>


  Security Area Director:
       Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
       Steve Belovin <smb@research.att.com>

  Security Area Advisor:
       Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>

  Mailing Lists:
       General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org
       To Subscribe:       ietf-smime-request@imc.org
       Archive:            http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/

  Description of Working Group:

  The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards =
that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the =
specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms =
was be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base =
specifications.

  The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic =
algorithm independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any =
algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a =
specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the =
use of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.

  To aid implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will =
be collected and published. Some of the examples will include structures =
and signed attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) =
(RFC 2634) document.

  CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of =
previously distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for =
the distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message =
recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of =
symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm =
independent.

  To aid initial determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities =
a specification will be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be =
stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based on the X.509 certificate =
and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working Group.

  The working group will perform necessary interoperability testing to =
rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft Standard. The CMS =
specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must progress to =
Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can =
progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working =
Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard =
in 2005.

  Milestones:

  History
       Submit CMS compressed data content type a Proposed Standard.
       Submit security label usage specification as Informational RFC.
       Submit elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational =
RFC.
       Submit update to CMS as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit CMS Algorithms as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit AES key wrap algorithm description as Informational RFC.
       Last call on X.400 CMS wrapper specification.
       Last call on X.400 transport specification.
       Last call on HMAC key wrap description specification.
       Last call on RSA OAEP algorithm specification.
       Last call on AES algorithm specification.
       Last call on update to MSG.
       First draft of update to CERT.
       First draft of CMS and ESS examples document.
       First draft of S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix.
       First draft of RSA PSS algorithm specification.
       Submit mail list key distribution as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit HMAC key wrap description as Proposed Standard.
       Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed Standard.
       Sumbit AES algorithm specification as Proposed Standard.
       Submit X.400 CMS wrapper specification as a Proposed Standard.
       Submit X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.
       Last call on CMS and ESS examples document.
       Sumbit update to CERT as Proposed Standard.
       Sumbit update to MSG as Proposed Standard.
       First draft of RSA KEM algorithm specification.
       Last call on RSA PSS algorithm specification.
       Submit RSA PSS algorithm specification as Proposed Standard

  September 04
       Submit CMS and ESS examples document as Informational RFC
       First draft of S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

  October 04
       Working Group Last Call for S/MIME Capabilities Certificate =
Extension

  December 04
       Submit S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational =
RFC

  January 05
       Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix=20

  February 05
       Request advancement of CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of CMS to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of ESS to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of CERT to Draft Standard
       Request advancement of MSG to Draft Standard
       Last call on RSA KEM algorithm specification

  January 06
       Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed Standard
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How about including a S/MIME gateway=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The OpenGroup and Blake B&nbsp;are =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What happened with the gateway BOF that =
Phill H-B=20
wrote about sometime ago?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>An S/MIME gateway standard is really =
needed as=20
S/MIME end-to-end encryption is not going anywhere.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anders</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dturners@ieca.com href=3D"mailto:turners@ieca.com">Sean P. =
Turner</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dietf-smime@imc.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:ietf-smime@imc.org">SMIME</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 31, 2004=20
01:41</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Charter =
Modification</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>All,<BR><BR>To include Stefan's work in the working =
group we=20
  need to modify the working group's charter (we also needed to update =
the dates=20
  anyway because some are way off).&nbsp; Attached is the proposed=20
  modification.&nbsp; Please respond with any comments by&nbsp;=20
  Friday.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>spt <BR>
  <P>
  <HR>

  <P></P><BR>S/MIME Mail Security=20
  (smime)<BR><BR>Chair:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sean Turner=20
  &lt;turners@ieca.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Blake Ramsdell=20
  &lt;blake@sendmail.com&gt;<BR><BR><BR>Security Area=20
  Director:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
  &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Steve Belovin =

  &lt;smb@research.att.com&gt;<BR><BR>Security Area=20
  Advisor:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Russ Housley=20
  &lt;housley@vigilsec.com&gt;<BR><BR>Mailing =
Lists:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  General Discussion: ietf-smime@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To=20
  Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  ietf-smime-request@imc.org<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
Archive:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;=20
  http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/<BR><BR>Description of Working =
Group:<BR><BR>The=20
  S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards that =

  comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the =
specification=20
  update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms was be =
selected.=20
  Current efforts update and build upon these base =
specifications.<BR><BR>The=20
  Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic =
algorithm=20
  independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any =
algorithm. To=20
  ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a specification =
that=20
  describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the use of additional=20
  cryptographic algorithms will be developed.<BR><BR>To aid =
implementers,=20
  documents containing example output for CMS will be collected and =
published.=20
  Some of the examples will include structures and signed attributes =
defined in=20
  the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) (RFC 2634) document.<BR><BR>CMS, =
as well=20
  as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of previously =
distributed=20
  symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for the distribution of=20
  symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message recipients will be=20
  developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of symmetric =
key-encryption=20
  keys. The specification will be algorithm independent.<BR><BR>To aid =
initial=20
  determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities a =
specification will=20
  be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be stored and asserted in =
X.509=20
  certificates based on the X.509 certificate and CRL profile developed =
by the=20
  PKIX Working Group.<BR><BR>The working group will perform necessary=20
  interoperability testing to rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications =
to Draft=20
  Standard. The CMS specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile =
must=20
  progress to Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME =
specifications can=20
  progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX =
Working=20
  Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft =
Standard in=20
  2005.<BR><BR>Milestones:<BR><BR>History<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit CMS=20
  compressed data content type a Proposed =
Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Submit security label usage specification as Informational=20
  RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit elliptic curve algorithm =
specification=20
  as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit update to CMS =
as a=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS Algorithms =
as a=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit AES key wrap =
algorithm=20
  description as Informational RFC.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
  X.400 CMS wrapper specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on=20
  X.400 transport specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call =
on HMAC=20
  key wrap description specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
  RSA OAEP algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on AES=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call on =
update to=20
  MSG.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of update to=20
  CERT.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of CMS and ESS examples=20
  document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME version =
3.1=20
  interoperability matrix.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of =
RSA PSS=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit mail list =
key=20
  distribution as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit HMAC=20
  key wrap description as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
  RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed=20
  Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sumbit AES algorithm =
specification as=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit X.400 CMS =
wrapper=20
  specification as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit X.400=20
  transport as a Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on CMS=20
  and ESS examples document.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sumbit update =
to CERT=20
  as Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sumbit update to MSG =
as=20
  Proposed Standard.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of RSA KEM=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last call on RSA =
PSS=20
  algorithm specification.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit RSA PSS =
algorithm=20
  specification as Proposed Standard<BR><BR>September=20
  04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Submit CMS and ESS examples document as =

  Informational RFC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; First draft of S/MIME=20
  Capabilities Certificate Extension<BR><BR>October=20
  04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Working Group Last Call for S/MIME =
Capabilities=20
  Certificate Extension<BR><BR>December 04<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Submit=20
  S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational =
RFC<BR><BR>January=20
  05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Final S/MIME version 3.1 =
interoperability=20
  matrix <BR><BR>February 05<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request =
advancement of=20
  CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Request=20
  advancement of CMS to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Request=20
  advancement of ESS to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Request=20
  advancement of CERT to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Request=20
  advancement of MSG to Draft Standard<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last =
call on=20
  RSA KEM algorithm specification<BR><BR>January =
06<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed=20
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All,<br>
<br>
To include Stefan's work in the working group we need to modify the
working group's charter (we also needed to update the dates anyway
because some are way off).&nbsp; Attached is the proposed modification.&nbsp;
Please respond with any comments by&nbsp; Friday.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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S/MIME Mail Security (smime)

Chair:
     Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>
     Blake Ramsdell <blake@sendmail.com>


Security Area Director:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
     Steve Belovin <smb@research.att.com>

Security Area Advisor:
     Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>

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Description of Working Group:

The S/MIME Working Group has completed a series of Proposed Standards that comprise the S/MIME version 3.1 specification. As part of the specification update, a new suite of "mandatory to implement" algorithms was be selected. Current efforts update and build upon these base specifications.

The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (RFC 3852) is cryptographic algorithm independent, yet there is always more than one way to use any algorithm. To ensure interoperability, each algorithm should have a specification that describes its use with CMS. Specifications for the use of additional cryptographic algorithms will be developed.

To aid implementers, documents containing example output for CMS will be collected and published. Some of the examples will include structures and signed attributes defined in the Enhanced SecurityServices (ESS) (RFC 2634) document.

CMS, as well as S/MIME version 3 and later, permit the use of previously distributed symmetric key-encryption keys. Specifications for the distribution of symmetric key-encryption keys to multiple message recipients will be developed. Mail List Agents (MLAs) areone user of symmetric key-encryption keys. The specification will be algorithm independent.

To aid initial determination of recipient's cryptographic capabilities a specification will be developed allowing S/MIME capabilities to be stored and asserted in X.509 certificates based on the X.509 certificate and CRL profile developed by the PKIX Working Group.

The working group will perform necessary interoperability testing to rogress the CMS and S/MIME specifications to Draft Standard. The CMS specification depends on the RFC 3280. This profile must progress to Draft Standard before CMS and the other S/MIME specifications can progress to Draft Standard. Assuming timely progress by the PKIX Working Group, the S/MIME specification can start progressing to Draft Standard in 2005.

Milestones:

History
     Submit CMS compressed data content type a Proposed Standard.
     Submit security label usage specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit elliptic curve algorithm specification as Informational RFC.
     Submit update to CMS as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit CMS Algorithms as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit AES key wrap algorithm description as Informational RFC.
     Last call on X.400 CMS wrapper specification.
     Last call on X.400 transport specification.
     Last call on HMAC key wrap description specification.
     Last call on RSA OAEP algorithm specification.
     Last call on AES algorithm specification.
     Last call on update to MSG.
     First draft of update to CERT.
     First draft of CMS and ESS examples document.
     First draft of S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix.
     First draft of RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit mail list key distribution as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit HMAC key wrap description as Proposed Standard.
     Submit RSA OAEP algorithm specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit AES algorithm specification as Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 CMS wrapper specification as a Proposed Standard.
     Submit X.400 transport as a Proposed Standard.
     Last call on CMS and ESS examples document.
     Sumbit update to CERT as Proposed Standard.
     Sumbit update to MSG as Proposed Standard.
     First draft of RSA KEM algorithm specification.
     Last call on RSA PSS algorithm specification.
     Submit RSA PSS algorithm specification as Proposed Standard

September 04
     Submit CMS and ESS examples document as Informational RFC
     First draft of S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

October 04
     Working Group Last Call for S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension

December 04
     Submit S/MIME Capabilities Certificate Extension as Informational RFC

January 05
     Final S/MIME version 3.1 interoperability matrix 

February 05
     Request advancement of CMS Algorithms to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CMS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of ESS to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of CERT to Draft Standard
     Request advancement of MSG to Draft Standard
     Last call on RSA KEM algorithm specification

January 06
     Submit RSA KEM algorithm specification as Proposed Standard
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Seeing no comments I'll pass these on to the proceedings folks.<br>
<br>
Sean P. Turner wrote:<br>
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  <p class="TitleLine">Minutes for Secure MIME (S/MIME) WG Meeting<br>
IETF #60<br>
  <span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tuesday PM III Session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
Agenda: Blake Ramsdell covered the agenda for the meeting. No changes
were made.<br>
  <br>
Working Group Status: Blake Ramsdell covered the status of the active
documents in the working group.&nbsp; the documents that have changed status
since the last meeting are:<br>
  <br>
Published as RFC:<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-08 is now approved as
RFC 3850<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2633bis-10 is
now approved as RFC 3851<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc3369bis-05 is
now approved as RFC 3852<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400wrap-09 is now
approved as RFC 3854<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400transport-09
is now approved as RFC 3855<br>
  <br>
RFC Editor Queue: <br>
- PSS is pinned by a PSS document in PKIX.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">schaad </span>reported that PSS has
also been awaiting an IESG write-up since April.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; housley</span>
indicated that he would check on this.<br>
- SYMKEYDIST is pinned by CMCbis (from PKIX) which is in turn pinned by
CRMFbis (from PKIX).<br>
  <br>
Others:<br>
- EXAMPLES - A new release incorporates some edits,
but is essentially done.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>New version
was after deadline, so will go to WG Last Call as soon as queue opens
up.<br>
- GOST - Some editorial issues to take
care of.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Draft is good until October.<br>
- KEM<span style=""> - See later discussion</span>.<br>
- RFC2624bis - Not yet published; fixes some problems
with ML expansion and receipt policy; moves them into separate
attributes.<br>
  <br>
Milestone Updates:<br>
- Updates to MSG and CERT
for Proposed Standards.<br>
- Submitted RSA PSS as a Proposed
Standard<br>
- Milestones themselves need to be updated to more realistic dates
especially for RSA KEM.<br>
  <br>
KEM Status - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
said
he received a status update from <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">burt
kaliski</span><!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[if !supportLists]--> (RSA)
on KEM. RSA KEM I-D has alignment relationship with ISO/IEC 18033-2
and ANSI X9.44. Outstanding issues in X9.44 include: text on assurance
of validity of public keys, possession of private key, and security
considerations.&nbsp; Clearly these need to be resolved before advancing.&nbsp;
Expect substantial completion of ISO/IEC 18033-2 and ANSI
X9.44 in mid-2005 with formalities continuing into 2006.<span style="">&nbsp;
  </span>The KEM I-D will be updated to track these,
but should not be finalized until balloting begins.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>PKCS
#1 may also be updated.<span style="">&nbsp;
  </span>Upshot is that we will probably not complete the KEM I-D until
late 2005
or early 2006.
  <p class="MsoBodyTextIndent2">Formats for Long Term Electronic
Signatures - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ross</span>
briefly
introduced the background of the project for ETSI to establish
guidelines for
digital signatures that will have legal standing. RFC 3126 was produced
to align with the ETSI document.&nbsp; Additional changes to the underlying
signature standards
(CMS, etc.) have somewhat advanced the discussion.&nbsp; The updated I-D
that would obsolete RFC 3126.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span><span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">
asked whether he was asking to take this on as a WG item.&nbsp; </span>10
or so were in favor, and no objections were
voiced.</p>
Boneh-Franklin Identity Based Encryption in S/MIME - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">martin</span>
presented this proposal for an alternative to PKI-based encryption.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>Based on a process for deriving a public key
based on a string representation of the user identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
mechanism relies on supersingular
elliptic curves.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It uses a Tate pairing
on a particular supersingular curve that has been tested to ensure that
it
isn&#8217;t cryptographically &#8220;bad&#8221;.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
public key must be obtained from a key server so it isn&#8217;t good for
digital
signature, but is okay for encryption.<span style="">&nbsp;
  </span>Bottom line is that this is being proposed as an alternative
key
exchange mechanism for use with CMS/SMIME.&nbsp; There were technical
questions about how the identity is bound to the identity string, and
there were IPR questions.&nbsp; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
indicated that the politics of the solution aside, he considered this
interesting to the WG as something that is using CMS.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; ramsdell</span>
summarized that the WG is basically in a monitoring mode with respect
to this
proposal, but there are clearly some concerns wrt IPR and complexity.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>He noted that that he would like to see some
more before definition considering this any further.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">turner</span> pointed out
that you could still develop the draft as an individual submission.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span>
remarked that this would give people an opportunity better evaluate the
idea.
  <p class="MsoBodyTextIndent">X.509 S/MIME Capabilities - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">santesson</span> gave
an overview of his proposal that the S/MIME Capabilities attribute from
RFC
2633 be included in the user certificate.&nbsp; The proposal is to include
the attribute as a non-critical extension as opposed to in the subject
directory attributes extension.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span> asked
if there were any opposition to bringing this in as a WG item. No
opposition was expressed.<br>
  </p>
Other Business: There was some discussion
about closing the WG, but it was decided to poll the WG for work items
prior to each meeting to better assess whether it should meet at future
IETF meetings.
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An interesting document indeed.
The statement

       "Paradoxically it is the value of  the directory as the
         central hub of the enterprise information 
         infrastructure that constrains its use"

is so right. 

Any news on the BOF?

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At 1:56 PM -0400 8/13/04, Beauchamp, Sue wrote:
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>and look good.

Thanks, Sue!

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<p class="TitleLine">Minutes for Secure MIME (S/MIME) WG Meeting<br>
IETF #60<br>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tuesday PM III Session<o:p></o:p></span></p>
Agenda: Blake Ramsdell covered the agenda for the meeting. No changes
were made.<br>
<br>
Working Group Status: Blake Ramsdell covered the status of the active
documents in the working group.&nbsp; the documents that have changed status
since the last meeting are:<br>
<br>
Published as RFC:<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2632bis-08 is now approved as
RFC 3850<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc2633bis-10 is
now approved as RFC 3851<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-rfc3369bis-05 is
now approved as RFC 3852<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400wrap-09 is now
approved as RFC 3854<br>
- draft-ietf-smime-x400transport-09
is now approved as RFC 3855<br>
<br>
RFC Editor Queue: <br>
- PSS is pinned by a PSS document in PKIX.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">schaad </span>reported that PSS has
also been awaiting an IESG write-up since April.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; housley</span>
indicated that he would check on this.<br>
- SYMKEYDIST is pinned by CMCbis (from PKIX) which is in turn pinned by
CRMFbis (from PKIX).<br>
<br>
Others:<br>
- EXAMPLES - A new release incorporates some edits,
but is essentially done.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>New version
was after deadline, so will go to WG Last Call as soon as queue opens
up.<br>
- GOST - Some editorial issues to take
care of.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>Draft is good until October.<br>
- KEM<span style=""> - See later discussion</span>.<br>
- RFC2624bis - Not yet published; fixes some problems
with ML expansion and receipt policy; moves them into separate
attributes.<br>
<br>
Milestone Updates:<br>
- Updates to MSG and CERT
for Proposed Standards.<br>
- Submitted RSA PSS as a Proposed
Standard<br>
- Milestones themselves need to be updated to more realistic dates
especially for RSA KEM.<br>
<br>
KEM Status - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
said
he received a status update from <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">burt
kaliski</span><!--[if !supportLists]--><!--[if !supportLists]--> (RSA)
on KEM. RSA KEM I-D has alignment relationship with ISO/IEC 18033-2
and ANSI X9.44. Outstanding issues in X9.44 include: text on assurance
of validity of public keys, possession of private key, and security
considerations.&nbsp; Clearly these need to be resolved before advancing.&nbsp;
Expect substantial completion of ISO/IEC 18033-2 and ANSI
X9.44 in mid-2005 with formalities continuing into 2006.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>The KEM I-D will be updated to track these,
but should not be finalized until balloting begins.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>PKCS
#1 may also be updated.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>Upshot is that we will probably not complete the KEM I-D until
late 2005
or early 2006.
<p class="MsoBodyTextIndent2">Formats for Long Term Electronic
Signatures - <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ross</span>
briefly
introduced the background of the project for ETSI to establish
guidelines for
digital signatures that will have legal standing. RFC 3126 was produced
to align with the ETSI document.&nbsp; Additional changes to the underlying
signature standards
(CMS, etc.) have somewhat advanced the discussion.&nbsp; The updated I-D
that would obsolete RFC 3126.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span><span
 style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">
asked whether he was asking to take this on as a WG item.&nbsp; </span>10
or so were in favor, and no objections were
voiced.</p>
Boneh-Franklin Identity Based Encryption in S/MIME - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">martin</span>
presented this proposal for an alternative to PKI-based encryption.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>Based on a process for deriving a public key
based on a string representation of the user identity.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
mechanism relies on supersingular
elliptic curves.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>It uses a Tate pairing
on a particular supersingular curve that has been tested to ensure that
it
isn&#8217;t cryptographically &#8220;bad&#8221;.<span style="">&nbsp; </span>The
public key must be obtained from a key server so it isn&#8217;t good for
digital
signature, but is okay for encryption.<span style="">&nbsp;
</span>Bottom line is that this is being proposed as an alternative key
exchange mechanism for use with CMS/SMIME.&nbsp; There were technical
questions about how the identity is bound to the identity string, and
there were IPR questions.&nbsp; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span>
indicated that the politics of the solution aside, he considered this
interesting to the WG as something that is using CMS.<span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">&nbsp; ramsdell</span>
summarized that the WG is basically in a monitoring mode with respect
to this
proposal, but there are clearly some concerns wrt IPR and complexity.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span>He noted that that he would like to see some
more before definition considering this any further.<span style="">&nbsp; </span><span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">turner</span> pointed out
that you could still develop the draft as an individual submission.<span
 style="">&nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant: small-caps;">housley</span>
remarked that this would give people an opportunity better evaluate the
idea.
<p class="MsoBodyTextIndent">X.509 S/MIME Capabilities - <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">santesson</span> gave
an overview of his proposal that the S/MIME Capabilities attribute from
RFC
2633 be included in the user certificate.&nbsp; The proposal is to include
the attribute as a non-critical extension as opposed to in the subject
directory attributes extension.&nbsp; <span
 style="font-variant: small-caps;">ramsdell</span> asked
if there were any opposition to bringing this in as a WG item. No
opposition was expressed.<br>
</p>
Other Business: There was some discussion
about closing the WG, but it was decided to poll the WG for work items
prior to each meeting to better assess whether it should meet at future
IETF meetings.
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Anders, 
 
It's a helpful tool, not a requirement for S/MIME.
 
No one is required to use this.
If your CA don't have this info or it is not working with your client structure, then don't use it.
 
It is however useful in a very large part of the enterprise use cases where this is currently deployed without any problems. It helps avoid a lot of uinnecessary occurances of bad 40 bit encryption in initial exchanges.
 
 
Stefan Santesson
Consulting Operations Specialist
Microsoft Security Center of Excellence (SCOE)

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I have no comments on the "design" in this draft.

However, I seriously question the idea to put client software
capabilities in certificates.

Why?
- because issuers may not have this information
- because users may have multiple clients
- because static solutions are limiting

If we begin to use dynamic methods like XKMS + DNS to find
public keys of recipients, SCEXT represents a step in another direction.

Due to the limited utility of true end-to-end encryption in corporate
environments (the DOMSEC RFC shows a few good reasons to that),
as well as the de-facto use of the web as a distribution medium for
e-government purposes (which is a much easier solution than S/MIME),
I believe that Microsoft should focus on making a gateway e-mail
standard a reality rather than patching a system that never will play
a major role and actually mostly creates problems for end-users and
system administrators.

Anders







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I have no comments on the "design" in this draft.

However, I seriously question the idea to put client software
capabilities in certificates.

Why?
- because issuers may not have this information
- because users may have multiple clients
- because static solutions are limiting

If we begin to use dynamic methods like XKMS + DNS to find
public keys of recipients, SCEXT represents a step in another direction.

Due to the limited utility of true end-to-end encryption in corporate
environments (the DOMSEC RFC shows a few good reasons to that),
as well as the de-facto use of the web as a distribution medium for
e-government purposes (which is a much easier solution than S/MIME),
I believe that Microsoft should focus on making a gateway e-mail
standard a reality rather than patching a system that never will play
a major role and actually mostly creates problems for end-users and
system administrators.

Anders




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At 10:02 AM -0400 8/11/04, Russ Housley wrote:
>I have a few comments.

Thanks! I'll fix all these things at the end of WG last call, before 
it goes to the IESG.

More comments are welcome, of course.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium



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I have a few comments.

TECHNICAL

The references are obsolete.  The normative references are:

    [CMS] Cryptographic Message Syntax, RFC 2630.

    [PKIX] PKIX Certificate and CRL Profile, RFC 2459.

    [SMIME-MSG] S/MIME Version 3 Message Specification. RFC 2633.

A new version of each of these documents has been published as a 
standards-track RFC.

Please delete the following paragraphs from the Introduction prior to 
submission to the IESG:

    This draft is being discussed on the 'ietf-smime-examples' mailing list.
    To join the list, send a message to ietf-smime-examples-request@imc.org
    with the single word "subscribe" in the body of the message.  Also,
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    discussed in the IETF's S/MIME Working Group; see
    <http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/> for more information.

    To contribute an implementation of an unimplemented example listed in
    this document, to verify that you got the same results as an example
    listed here, or to suggest a new example that should be listed, please
    contact the document author at the address listed near the end of the
    document.

EDITORIAL

Section 1 says:

    The examples shown here were created and validated by many different
    people over a long period of time.

This seems like a good place to say something about the dates used in the 
examples.  I see no need to generate new examples will more recent dates; 
however, the implementor should be warned about the dates used in the 
examples.  The certificates have very long lifespans to avoid having to 
play with clock settings.

In section 2: s/in this spec./in this document./

Russ



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	Title		: S/MIME Capabilities in X.509 certificates
	Author(s)	: S. Santesson
	Filename	: draft-santesson-smime-scext-00.txt
	Pages		: 7
	Date		: 2004-8-10

This document defines a certificate extension for inclusion of S/MIME
    capabilities in public key certificates as defined by RFC 3280.

    S/MIME Capabilities provides a method of broadcasting the
    cryptographic S/MIME capabilities of the certified subject as a
    complement to use of S/MIME Capabilities signed attributes as defined
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   Title           : Examples of S/MIME Messages
   Author(s)       : P. Hoffman
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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Examples of S/MIME Messages
	Author(s)	: P. Hoffman
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-examples-14.txt
	Pages		: 8
	Date		: 2004-8-4
	
This document gives examples of message bodies formatted using S/MIME.
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It includes examples of many common CMS formats. The purpose of this document is to help increase interoperability for S/MIME and other protocols that rely on CMS.

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All I need to send a short summary of what happened at the meeting to
the SAAG list and present the summary at the SAAG.&nbsp; Please let me know
if this is an accurate summary (silence means approval):<br>
<br>
5 RFCs published since last time: CMSbis, MSGbis, CERTbis,
X400Transport, X400Wrap<br>
<br>
2 IDs with RFC editor, both are pinned by other documents:<br>
- PSS pinned by PKIX PSS document<br>
- SYMKEYDIST pinned by CMC, which is turn pinned by CRMF<br>
<br>
Outstanding drafts:<br>
EXAMPLES - new version out next week - will go to WG LC<br>
GOST - Editorial issues remain<br>
KEM - Waiting for ISO and ANSI and will likely be waiting until '06.<br>
ESSbis - Split MLA expansion history in two attributes: one to do ML
expansion history and one to do receipt policy modification.&nbsp; Soon to
be published.<br>
<br>
Presentations:<br>
- Format for LTS - RFC 3216 (Format for Long Term Signatures) is being
updated based on comments to ETSI base document<br>
- Boneh-Franklin Identity Based Encryption in S/MIME - Presented an
alternate to PKI in S/MIME.&nbsp; It is implemented by multiple vendors and
it does work.&nbsp; There were concerns however some technical and some IPR
based.&nbsp; Prior to adopting the work the WG would like to see an
individual submission to better evaluate the approach.<br>
- S/MIME Capability PKC Extension - Wants a PKC extension to allow
Adopting work in WG<br>
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