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(v3.51.10) CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Gail Cook" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4680763854.20060401121649@0451.com> To: smime-archive@ietf.org Subject: [fwd] TopWeeks the wire news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 3.1 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 There is a Big PR Campaign running ALL Weekend! Get KKPT First Thing, This Is Going To Explode! Check out HOT NEWS!!! Monday should really move! KOKO PETROLEUM (KKPT) - This is our #1 pick for next week! Our last pick gained $2.16 in 4 days of trading. Current Price: $1.18 5 day expected price $2.10 This has been a great producer in our last PR Campaign VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 17, 2006--KOKO Petroleum, Inc. (PINK SHEETS:KKPT - News) has now completed two wells. The wells have now been equipped for production. 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(v2.12.00) CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Derrick Tapia" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <487098440.20060402103530@009design.com> To: smime-archive@ietf.org Subject: [re:] Top Financial Market Specialists Trader watch special pr news release MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 There is a Big PR Campaign running ALL Weekend! Get KKPT First Thing, This Is Going To Explode! Check out HOT NEWS!!! Monday should really move! KOKO PETROLEUM (KKPT) - This is our #1 pick for next week! Our last pick gained $2.16 in 4 days of trading. Current Price: $1.18 5 day expected price $2.10 This has been a great producer in our last PR Campaign VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 17, 2006--KOKO Petroleum, Inc. (PINK SHEETS:KKPT - News) has now completed two wells. The wells have now been equipped for production. The first two days resulted in the recovery of water from the formation and the oil cut (percentage of oil to water) has now increased substantially. The water should be eliminated within a few days. Production tanks and separator are being installed KOKO Petroleum, Inc. (PKKPT - News) announced today that it has revised its Letter of Intent with JMT Resources, Ltd. Fort Worth Texas regarding the Development of JMT's polymer flood pilot program on its leasehold located in Corsicana, Texas. The previous agreement focused only on the pilot program for the polymer flood in a specific area of JMT's acreage. The revised agreement gives KOKO the right, via a master joint venture, to participate in all of JMT's acreage in the Corsicana Field which totals 7,838 acres. As mentioned in previous releases, this leasehold is the oldest oil field in Texas and was discovered in the 1890's by a company that eventually became Mobil Oil. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C65658.2B984CB0-- From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Sun Apr 02 12:28:23 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQ5R9-0005vz-3K for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:28:23 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQ5R6-0007Uq-Kg for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:28:23 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k32G6g9q092545; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:06:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k32G6gpG092544; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:06:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [212.234.46.16]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k32G6XEK092529 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:06:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Peter.Sylvester@edelweb.fr) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edelweb.fr (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k32G6Wi18070; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:06:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (champagne.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.161]) by edelweb.fr (nospam/2.4); Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:06:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [193.51.14.5] (emeriau.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.5]) by champagne.edelweb.fr (8.7.6/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA22582; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:06:24 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <442FF624.70008@edelweb.fr> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 18:04:52 +0200 From: Peter Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Gutmann CC: lists@drh-consultancy.demon.co.uk, denis.pinkas@bull.net, ietf-smime@imc.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010300050209030204060904" Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2ed806e2f53ff1a061ad4f97e00345ac This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010300050209030204060904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My comment was related to the syntax. Another option would be not to use a fixed default but rather make the hashAlgoritm OPTIONAL and say that it is the same as used in to create the signature around (or SHA1 if the hash length is less than 224 bits) If one still use the same attribute: the implementations that understand sha256- in a signature and use ESSCertID would be hit. But as P.G. said, if one uses another attribute... Peter Gutmann wrote: > Peter Sylvester writes: > > >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash Hash, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL, >> hashAlgorithm [0] AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { { algorithm sha-1, parameters NULL} } >> > > It'd be easier to just go with Russ' suggestion of: > > ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { { algorithm sha-1, parameters NULL} } > certHash Hash, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } > > See my earlier message on why this won't present any backwards-compatibility > problems with the original ESSCertID. > > Peter. > > > > -- To verify the signature, see http://edelpki.edelweb.fr/ Cela vous permet de charger le certificat de l'autorité; die Liste mit zurückgerufenen Zertifikaten finden Sie da auch. --------------ms010300050209030204060904 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME 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From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Mon Apr 03 12:01:36 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQRUm-0006y5-Cz for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:01:36 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQRUl-00006a-28 for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:01:36 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k33FUXpX059815; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:30:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k33FUX1J059814; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:30:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k33FUWPI059792 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:30:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 24825 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2006 15:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (71.246.201.221) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2006 15:30:21 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:30:23 -0400 To: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz From: Russ Housley Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Cc: ietf-smime@imc.org In-Reply-To: References: <442C0C12.1080609@edelweb.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Peter: I do not see a way to use this syntax and say that the parameters are absent. I prefer absent to NULL. Russ At 09:35 PM 3/30/2006, Peter Gutmann wrote: >ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { { algorithm > sha-1, parameters NULL} } > certHash Hash, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Mon Apr 03 15:13:51 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUUp-0007xq-AR for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:13:51 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQUUn-00089s-V6 for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:13:51 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k33IqGJK070361; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k33IqGNv070360; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp-out.sendmail.com (smtp-out.sendmail.com [209.246.26.45]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k33IqGwa070354 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from blake@sendmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (gtec136-m.isomedia.com [207.115.67.136] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by foon.sendmail.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k33IqAMT024470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:11 -0700 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v0.2.1 foon.sendmail.com k33IqAMT024470 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nowsp/nowsp; d=sendmail.com; s=tls.dkim; t=1144090332; h=X-DomainKeys:DomainKey-Signature:In-Reply-To: References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=oeZu9TcL kGATNLbLsK+CAR5kLDiW752XBBVcJyHfD9yb0+1inEp+qYuX+E+wesevuwcIt5vHL5m Hp8yh6kQHsttr7xj6x2myky4ZRJIG9V4jX/p0DX0n0FWcX5J9Hvc6uC2z3XEfoydh/F mVNKR0HZ5qDpGO7QVJHKLTPENq9Ks= X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v0.3.2 foon.sendmail.com k33IqAMT024470 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=tls; d=sendmail.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tSVh8aasKyI9CKOiap2UvQPbXtt95ZHyfv23WNMOCNC8pVx7Fh0+DSG0QUrgi6Fkw whaDYXgvQDvnDeM49wRNhRYSJQVo/pB+3JxwvfVASgEJeTM5xp2I5NKiBb42S/JgwAn tQmDy0lBGNPmTgm5BI8IuY1Fao9yYYLhHhiS6UQ= In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> References: <442C0C12.1080609@edelweb.fr> <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3253ADE3-8BD0-4C60-A9C8-3F1080A4F1DA@sendmail.com> Cc: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz, ietf-smime@imc.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Ramsdell Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:09 -0700 To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f On Apr 3, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > I do not see a way to use this syntax and say that the parameters > are absent. I prefer absent to NULL. Now we get back into the "Great Algorithm Identifier Parameters Debate of 1997" where we discuss the merits of NULL vs. absent for algorithm identifiers. Early implementations looking for SHA-1 as an AlgorithmIdentifier expected NULL as parameters also. So despite the personal preference (which I think influenced some of this discussion in CMS and MSG), the old school practice with AlgorithmIdentifiers was "NULL for parameters". 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Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:30:44 +1200 (NZST) Received: from groucho.itss.auckland.ac.nz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtpa.itss.auckland.ac.nz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11208-24; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:30:44 +1200 (NZST) Received: from iris.cs.auckland.ac.nz (iris.cs.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.33.152]) by groucho.itss.auckland.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAF434711; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:30:43 +1200 (NZST) Received: from medusa01.cs.auckland.ac.nz (medusa01.cs.auckland.ac.nz [130.216.34.33]) by iris.cs.auckland.ac.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EDC37747; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:30:43 +1200 (NZST) Received: from pgut001 by medusa01.cs.auckland.ac.nz with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1FQaNa-0004Y0-00; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:30:46 +1200 From: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) To: housley@vigilsec.com, pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Cc: ietf-smime@imc.org In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:30:46 +1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mailhost.auckland.ac.nz Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Russ Housley writes: >At 09:35 PM 3/30/2006, Peter Gutmann wrote: >>ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { { algorithm >> sha-1, parameters NULL} } >> certHash Hash, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL >> } > >I do not see a way to use this syntax and say that the parameters are absent. >I prefer absent to NULL. Oh, I was just quoting Peter Sylvester's ASN.1, since he's using current ASN.1 which can't be used in IETF RFCs anyway, it shouldn't be an issue, the parameter info will just disappear once it's back-translated in the obsolete 1988 form. Peter. 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From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 05 00:02:08 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQzDc-0003C1-9d for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:02:08 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FQzDb-0000sh-M8 for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 00:02:08 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k353gKqF096772; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k353gKr8096771; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k353gJUs096764 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@augustcellars.com) Received: from romans (pool-71-111-77-220.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.77.220]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B5B475C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Denis Pinkas'" , Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:47:09 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c65863$9e361970$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 thread-index: AcZUA64mng1wqjpWRsi8hEhy1pyq+QEXWX0g Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bacfc6c7290e34d410f9bc22b825ce96 Denis, I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, and I ignored it because it was not of immediate importance to me at the time. I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really backwards compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific manner then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider what the reality of things is. In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new OID, thus an old client would see that there is an attribute that it does not understand. This means that the new structure is really backwards compatable, if an old client gets a message from a new client the item is ignored and the old client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old client sends a message and includes this attribute the new client should still understand and process the extension correctly. (This would also be true with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply replace ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client sends a message to the new client, it works since the new client can correctly decode it. If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST use the SHA-1 hash algorithm as any other would cause the old client to have a decode algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in advance that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use SHA-1 just in case. TO me this means that you might as well not change the protocol. (Side note - there is not versioning in the low level structures that I could see. If you update the version number then there is no problem with changing the structure itself. There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by Peter that having the same effective structure would allow for writing of a single decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and onto SHA-2 in the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this then I need to take the position that either 1) size is not an issue or 2) the defaults should be the algorithms that we think should be used in the immediate future. I am a strong supporter of option 2. I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming revision of the document. jim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM > To: ietf-smime@imc.org > Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > > Jim, and the working group > > > 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a > proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure is different > from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. > > The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: > > ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { > certHash Hash, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } > > The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: > > ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { > certHash Hash, > hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier > DEFAULT {id-sha256}, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } > > The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: > > ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > certHash OCTET STRING, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial, > hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } > > The advantage of the last proposal is backward compatibility > with the existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is > less "natural" than invented from scratch, but some > explanations can easily overcome this drawback. > > I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX mailing list. > > In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of this > section to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. > > 2 - Proposed rewritting: > > "5.4.1. Certificate Identification > > The best way to identify certificates is an often-discussed issue. > > When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData > object, that information is not part of the message digest > calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. > That information may only be used as an hint and by itself, does > not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being > accessed. > > A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to verify that > the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being > used when the > signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate > substitution attacks. > > Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing > Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the > advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. > > Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates > containing authorization information do not have an issuer/serial > number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an > attribute certificate or an additional public key > certificate is not > included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more > difficult to > get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the > certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be > identified > by the IssuerSerial object." > > 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: > SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx > > 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. > "requred". > There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", > "Indentification", ... > Please use a spell checker. > > Denis > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security > Working Group of the IETF. > > > > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility > > Author(s) : J. Schaad > > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > Pages : 18 > > Date : 2006-3-24 > > > >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a > >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to > be used in > >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was > >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the > structure to have > >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with > the updating. > > > > > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > > >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > the body of the message. > >You can also visit > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > >to change your subscription settings. > > > > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:30:16 +0200 Received: from frcls4013 ([129.182.108.120]) by MSGA-001.frcl.bull.fr (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.11) with SMTP id 2006040514304570:1481 ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:30:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:31:50 +0100 From: "Denis Pinkas" To: "ietf-smime@imc.org" , "Jim Schaad" Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [-fr-] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MSGA-001/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 05/04/2006 14:30:45, Serialize by Router on MSGA-001/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 05/04/2006 14:30:47, Serialize complete at 05/04/2006 14:30:47 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 65bc4909d78e8b10349def623cf7a1d1 Jim, After more thoughs and exchange of arguments I am inclined to accept your position. I believe that the rule should be: if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default algorithm for the new structure. In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of the algorithm. It made me think that we should provide some additional guidance for implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA is the signature algorithm, then it would make sense, *not* to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the new structure with SHA-256. Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm is more complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in addition, recommend to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? It would not hurt, but in case SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? I leave the floor open to cryptographers. Finally, I have a minor naming problem: what is it called ESSCertIDEx and not ESSCertIDv2 ? What means "Ex" ?!? I would rather prefer ESSCertIDv2 which is more meaningful without any explanation. Denis >Denis, > >I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, and I >ignored it because it was not of immediate importance to me at the time. > >I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really backwards >compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific manner >then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider what the >reality of things is. > >In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new OID, thus an >old client would see that there is an attribute that it does not understand. >This means that the new structure is really backwards compatable, if an old >client gets a message from a new client the item is ignored and the old >client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old client >sends a message and includes this attribute the new client should still >understand and process the extension correctly. (This would also be true >with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) > >Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply replace >ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client sends a message >to the new client, it works since the new client can correctly decode it. >If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST use the SHA-1 hash >algorithm as any other would cause the old client to have a decode >algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in advance >that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use SHA-1 just in >case. TO me this means that you might as well not change the protocol. >(Side note - there is not versioning in the low level structures that I >could see. If you update the version number then there is no problem with >changing the structure itself. > >There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by Peter that >having the same effective structure would allow for writing of a single >decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. > >I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and onto SHA-2 in >the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this then I need to take >the position that either 1) size is not an issue or 2) the defaults should >be the algorithms that we think should be used in the immediate future. I >am a strong supporter of option 2. > >I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming revision of >the document. > >jim > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org >> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM >> To: ietf-smime@imc.org >> Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> >> >> Jim, and the working group >> >> >> 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a >> proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure is different >> from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. >> >> The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: >> >> ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash Hash, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL >> } >> >> The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: >> >> ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash Hash, >> hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier >> DEFAULT {id-sha256}, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL >> } >> >> The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: >> >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash OCTET STRING, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial, >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } >> >> The advantage of the last proposal is backward compatibility >> with the existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is >> less "natural" than invented from scratch, but some >> explanations can easily overcome this drawback. >> >> I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX mailing list. >> >> In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of this >> section to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. >> >> 2 - Proposed rewritting: >> >> "5.4.1. Certificate Identification >> >> The best way to identify certificates is an often-discussed issue. >> >> When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData >> object, that information is not part of the message digest >> calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. >> That information may only be used as an hint and by itself, does >> not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being >> accessed. >> >> A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to verify that >> the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being >> used when the >> signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate >> substitution attacks. >> >> Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing >> Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the >> advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. >> >> Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates >> containing authorization information do not have an issuer/serial >> number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an >> attribute certificate or an additional public key >> certificate is not >> included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more >> difficult to >> get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the >> certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be >> identified >> by the IssuerSerial object." >> >> 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: >> SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx >> >> 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. >> "requred". >> There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", >> "Indentification", ... >> Please use a spell checker. >> >> Denis >> >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line >> Internet-Drafts directories. >> >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security >> Working Group of the IETF. >> > >> > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility >> > Author(s) : J. Schaad >> > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> > Pages : 18 >> > Date : 2006-3-24 >> > >> >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a >> >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to >> be used in >> >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was >> >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the >> structure to have >> >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with >> the updating. >> > >> > >> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> > >> >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to >> >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in >> the body of the message. >> >You can also visit >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce >> >to change your subscription settings. >> > >> > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the >> >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After >> >logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then >> > "get draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". >> > >> >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >> >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or >> >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> > >> > >> >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. >> > >> >Send a message to: >> > mailserv@ietf.org. >> >In the body type: >> > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". >> > >> >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in >> > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this >> > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" >> > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or >> > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant >> mail readers >> > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with >> > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split >> > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on >> > how to manipulate these messages. >> > >> > >> >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >> >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >> >Internet-Draft. >> > >> >Content-Type: text/plain >> >Content-ID: <2006-3-24165058.I-D@ietf.org> >> > >> >ENCODING mime >> >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> Denis Pinkas From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 05 12:57:20 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRBJo-0008Pd-9L for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:57:20 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRBJn-0007hS-KQ for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:57:20 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k35GVZ6g031279; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:31:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k35GVZ7x031278; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:31:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k35GVX4q031271 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:31:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 25270 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2006 16:31:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (129.6.193.7) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2006 16:31:29 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060405121600.0582f820@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:17:02 -0400 To: ietf-smime@imc.org From: Russ Housley Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 223e3c753032a50d5dc4443c921c3fcd I can support this approach: if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. if a hash other than SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertIDv2 MUST be used. Russ At 09:31 AM 4/5/2006, Denis Pinkas wrote: >Jim, > >After more thoughs and exchange of arguments I am inclined to accept >your position. > >I believe that the rule should be: >if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. > >So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default algorithm >for the new structure. > >In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of the algorithm. >It made me think that we should provide some additional guidance for >implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA is the signature algorithm, >then it would make sense, *not* to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the >new structure with SHA-256. > >Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm is more >complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in addition, recommend >to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? It would not hurt, but in case >SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? I leave the >floor open to cryptographers. > >Finally, I have a minor naming problem: what is it called ESSCertIDEx >and not ESSCertIDv2 ? What means "Ex" ?!? > >I would rather prefer ESSCertIDv2 which is more meaningful >without any explanation. > >Denis > > >Denis, > > > >I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, and I > >ignored it because it was not of immediate importance to me at the time. > > > >I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really backwards > >compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific manner > >then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider what the > >reality of things is. > > > >In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new OID, thus an > >old client would see that there is an attribute that it does not understand. > >This means that the new structure is really backwards compatable, if an old > >client gets a message from a new client the item is ignored and the old > >client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old client > >sends a message and includes this attribute the new client should still > >understand and process the extension correctly. (This would also be true > >with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) > > > >Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply replace > >ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client sends a message > >to the new client, it works since the new client can correctly decode it. > >If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST use the SHA-1 hash > >algorithm as any other would cause the old client to have a decode > >algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in advance > >that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use SHA-1 just in > >case. TO me this means that you might as well not change the protocol. > >(Side note - there is not versioning in the low level structures that I > >could see. If you update the version number then there is no problem with > >changing the structure itself. > > > >There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by Peter that > >having the same effective structure would allow for writing of a single > >decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. > > > >I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and onto SHA-2 in > >the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this then I need to take > >the position that either 1) size is not an issue or 2) the defaults should > >be the algorithms that we think should be used in the immediate future. I > >am a strong supporter of option 2. > > > >I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming revision of > >the document. > > > >jim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > >> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM > >> To: ietf-smime@imc.org > >> Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > >> > >> Jim, and the working group > >> > >> > >> 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a > >> proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure is different > >> from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. > >> > >> The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: > >> > >> ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier > >> DEFAULT {id-sha256}, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash OCTET STRING, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial, > >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } > >> > >> The advantage of the last proposal is backward compatibility > >> with the existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is > >> less "natural" than invented from scratch, but some > >> explanations can easily overcome this drawback. > >> > >> I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX mailing list. > >> > >> In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of this > >> section to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. > >> > >> 2 - Proposed rewritting: > >> > >> "5.4.1. Certificate Identification > >> > >> The best way to identify certificates is an often-discussed issue. > >> > >> When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData > >> object, that information is not part of the message digest > >> calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. > >> That information may only be used as an hint and by itself, does > >> not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being > >> accessed. > >> > >> A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to verify that > >> the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being > >> used when the > >> signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate > >> substitution attacks. > >> > >> Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing > >> Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the > >> advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. > >> > >> Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates > >> containing authorization information do not have an issuer/serial > >> number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an > >> attribute certificate or an additional public key > >> certificate is not > >> included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more > >> difficult to > >> get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the > >> certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be > >> identified > >> by the IssuerSerial object." > >> > >> 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: > >> SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx > >> > >> 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. > >> "requred". > >> There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", > >> "Indentification", ... > >> Please use a spell checker. > >> > >> Denis > >> > >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > >> Internet-Drafts directories. > >> >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security > >> Working Group of the IETF. > >> > > >> > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility > >> > Author(s) : J. Schaad > >> > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > Pages : 18 > >> > Date : 2006-3-24 > >> > > >> >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a > >> >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to > >> be used in > >> >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was > >> >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the > >> structure to have > >> >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with > >> the updating. > >> > > >> > > >> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > > >> >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > >> >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > >> the body of the message. > >> >You can also visit > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > >> >to change your subscription settings. > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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C_al.l us now get any de_gr.ee you desire in 2weeks or less! _1.0.0= % verifiable ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 206-338-6061 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Alot, Dirk Templeton=20 From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 05 17:48:31 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRFrb-000355-2c for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:48:31 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRFra-0007Dh-Ku for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:48:31 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k35LS7pE044517; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:28:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k35LS6OC044516; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:28:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k35LS5w3044509 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:28:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 10655 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2006 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (129.6.193.7) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2006 21:15:36 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060405171404.036cca18@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:15:36 -0400 To: ietf-smime@imc.org From: Russ Housley Subject: Proposed updates to CMS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 00e94c813bef7832af255170dca19e36 Here are the proposed changes to CMS in support of hash function migration. Please review and comment. Russ = = = = = = = = = Updates to Section 5: Signed-data Content Type Replace the next to the last paragraph in section 5 as follows. OLD: | A recipient independently computes the message digest. This message | digest and the signer's public key are used to verify the signature | value. The signer's public key is referenced either by an issuer | distinguished name along with an issuer-specific serial number or by | a subject key identifier that uniquely identifies the certificate | containing the public key. The signer's certificate can be included | in the SignedData certificates field. NEW: | A recipient independently computes the message digest. This message | digest and the signer's public key are used to verify the signature | value. The signer's public key is referenced either by an issuer | distinguished name along with an issuer-specific serial number or by | a subject key identifier that uniquely identifies the certificate | containing the public key. The signer's certificate can be included | in the SignedData certificates field. | | When more than one signature is present, the successful validation | of any one of these signatures ought to be treated as a successful | validation of the signed-data content type. The primary reason | is that signers may include seperate signatures for different | communities of recipients. For example, the signed-data content | type might include signatures generated with the RSA signature | algorithm and with the ECDSA signature algorithm. This allows | recipients able to verify one algorithm or the other. Updates to Section 5.1: SignedData Type Replace the next to the last paragraph in section 5.1 as follows. OLD: | signerInfos is a collection of per-signer information. 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Since each signer can employ a digital signature | technique and future specifications could update the syntax, all | implementations MUST gracefully handle unimplemented versions of | SignerInfo. Further, since all implementations will not support | every possible signature algorithm, all implementations MUST | gracefully handle unimplemented signature algorithms when they | are encountered. From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 05 22:01:50 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRJok-0001hx-Kj for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:01:50 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRJoj-0000Ux-S4 for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:01:50 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k361P1se052399; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:25:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k361P1uU052398; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:25:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k361OvHE052386 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:24:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@augustcellars.com) Received: from romans (unknown [207.202.179.27]) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DE26F49E; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Denis Pinkas'" , Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:29:46 -0700 Message-ID: <010b01c65919$96f7bb30$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 thread-index: AcZYrlDPLkZofefLQ6Cu5ekRob/wkgAan/Jw Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 918f4bd8440e8de4700bcf6d658bc801 Denis, > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:32 AM > To: ietf-smime@imc.org; Jim Schaad > Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > > Jim, > > After more thoughs and exchange of arguments I am inclined to > accept your position. > > I believe that the rule should be: > if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. I would totally agree with this wording. > > So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default > algorithm for the new structure. > > In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of > the algorithm. > It made me think that we should provide some additional > guidance for implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA > is the signature algorithm, then it would make sense, *not* > to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the new structure with SHA-256. > > Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm > is more complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in > addition, recommend to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? > It would not hurt, but in case > SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? > I leave the floor open to cryptographers. > > Finally, I have a minor naming problem: what is it called > ESSCertIDEx and not ESSCertIDv2 ? What means "Ex" ?!? I have no problems with this change in the name of the structure. The use of Ex shows the time that I used to work at Microsoft, Ex stands for Extended and was applied to system API calls. Jim > > I would rather prefer ESSCertIDv2 which is more meaningful > without any explanation. > > Denis > > >Denis, > > > >I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, > >and I ignored it because it was not of immediate importance > to me at the time. > > > >I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really > backwards > >compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific > >manner then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider > >what the reality of things is. > > > >In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new > OID, thus > >an old client would see that there is an attribute that it > does not understand. > >This means that the new structure is really backwards > compatable, if an > >old client gets a message from a new client the item is > ignored and the > >old client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old > >client sends a message and includes this attribute the new client > >should still understand and process the extension correctly. (This > >would also be true with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) > > > >Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply > >replace ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client > >sends a message to the new client, it works since the new > client can correctly decode it. > >If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST > use the SHA-1 > >hash algorithm as any other would cause the old client to > have a decode > >algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in > >advance that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use > >SHA-1 just in case. TO me this means that you might as well > not change the protocol. > >(Side note - there is not versioning in the low level > structures that I > >could see. If you update the version number then there is > no problem > >with changing the structure itself. > > > >There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by > Peter that > >having the same effective structure would allow for writing > of a single > >decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. > > > >I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and > onto SHA-2 > >in the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this > then I need > >to take the position that either 1) size is not an issue or > 2) the defaults should > >be the algorithms that we think should be used in the > immediate future. I > >am a strong supporter of option 2. > > > >I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming > >revision of the document. > > > >jim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > >> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM > >> To: ietf-smime@imc.org > >> Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > >> > >> Jim, and the working group > >> > >> > >> 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a > >> proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure > is different > >> from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. > >> > >> The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: > >> > >> ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier > >> DEFAULT {id-sha256}, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash OCTET STRING, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial, > >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } > >> > >> The advantage of the last proposal is backward > compatibility with the > >> existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is less "natural" > >> than invented from scratch, but some explanations can > easily overcome > >> this drawback. > >> > >> I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX > mailing list. > >> > >> In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of > this section > >> to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. > >> > >> 2 - Proposed rewritting: > >> > >> "5.4.1. Certificate Identification > >> > >> The best way to identify certificates is an > often-discussed issue. > >> > >> When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData > >> object, that information is not part of the message digest > >> calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. > >> That information may only be used as an hint and by > itself, does > >> not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being > >> accessed. > >> > >> A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to > verify that > >> the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being > used when > >> the > >> signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate > >> substitution attacks. > >> > >> Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing > >> Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the > >> advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. > >> > >> Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates > >> containing authorization information do not have an > issuer/serial > >> number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an > >> attribute certificate or an additional public key > certificate is > >> not > >> included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more > difficult > >> to > >> get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the > >> certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be > >> identified > >> by the IssuerSerial object." > >> > >> 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: > >> SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx > >> > >> 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. > >> "requred". > >> There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", > >> "Indentification", ... > >> Please use a spell checker. > >> > >> Denis > >> > >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > >> Internet-Drafts directories. > >> >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security > >> Working Group of the IETF. > >> > > >> > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility > >> > Author(s) : J. Schaad > >> > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > Pages : 18 > >> > Date : 2006-3-24 > >> > > >> >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a > >> >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to > >> be used in > >> >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was > >> >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the > >> structure to have > >> >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with > >> the updating. > >> > > >> > > >> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >> > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > > >> >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a > message to > >> >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > >> the body of the message. > >> >You can also visit > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > >> >to change your subscription settings. > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. > Login with the > >> >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After > >> >logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then > >> > "get draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". > >> > > >> >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > >> >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or > >> >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >> > > >> >Send a message to: > >> > mailserv@ietf.org. > >> >In the body type: > >> > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". > >> > > >> >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > >> > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > >> > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > >> > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > >> > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant > >> mail readers > >> > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > >> > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > >> > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > >> > how to manipulate these messages. > >> > > >> > > >> >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > >> >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > >> >Internet-Draft. > >> > > >> >Content-Type: text/plain > >> >Content-ID: <2006-3-24165058.I-D@ietf.org> > >> > > >> >ENCODING mime > >> >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > > Denis Pinkas > > > > > From connectim@007-production.com Thu Apr 06 12:51:44 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRXhw-00026L-6i for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:51:44 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRXhw-0007KB-5L for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:51:44 -0400 Received: from a213-22-216-233.cpe.netcabo.pt ([213.22.216.233] helo=scp-5als5250srz.netcabo.pt) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRXhv-0004wO-KZ for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:51:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 16:51:51 0000 From: "Terence Melton" X-Mailer: The Bat! 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Today : $1.33
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C659B6.48D33900-- From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 07 14:08:51 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRvO7-0004EQ-Ta for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:08:51 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FRvO6-000896-Dc for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:08:51 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k37HhUKU074601; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:43:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k37HhU3B074600; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:43:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [212.234.46.16]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k37HhT06074593 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:43:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Peter.Sylvester@edelweb.fr) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edelweb.fr (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k37HhQi23114; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (champagne.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.161]) by edelweb.fr (nospam/2.4); Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [193.51.14.5] (emeriau.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.5]) by champagne.edelweb.fr (8.7.6/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA27162; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <4436A461.2040305@edelweb.fr> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:41:53 +0200 From: Peter Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis Pinkas CC: "ietf-smime@imc.org" , Jim Schaad Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000906030506070903080702" Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7e439b86d3292ef5adf93b694a43a576 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000906030506070903080702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As far as I remember PKIX only has exchanges some message with several syntactical proposals for an attributs, some of them broken, but not talked about the semantics, or what to do in relation with the surrounding signature attribute. The last seems to me an interesting thing, but it should be done top down, i.e. what do we really want to signal with this attribute. Question: As soon as the signature hash algo becomes something like sha256 is there any benefit to use another hash algorithm in some 'id attribute'? Question: What should be the default value of a hash algorithm, note that I don't talk about defining it in ASN.1 as DEFAULT something. The field can be marked OPTIONAL so that it can can easily default to a value with or without the NULL parameter. Furthermore, we have then at least two possible interpretations of an absent alog. 1 - A fixed value like sha256 2 - the same as in the signature (or some more elaborated rule like if hash length > 160 bits then identical to the sign alg else sha1 Question: If one changes the existing definition of ESSCertid to use 2 above, would this hurt existing implementations to an unacceptable way, i.e. how many RSA+sha256 signature certs have been deployed. Question: How much time is necessary to fix the existing software which is technically already prepared to use sha256 in signatures but not in ESSCertIds. The day this has been agreed and months before the RFC is out? :-) > > So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default algorithm > for the new structure. > Not necssarily. > In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of the algorithm. > It made me think that we should provide some additional guidance for > implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA is the signature algorithm, > then it would make sense, *not* to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the > new structure with SHA-256. > And it it is sha512+RSA, then one needs to indicate the algo? What make sha256 so important that it can be a default? > Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm is more > complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in addition, recommend > to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? 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Vulnerabilidade no Shell do Windows que pode permitir a execução remota de códigos (993085)

Publicado em: 03 de abril de 2006
Versão: 2.1

Resumo
Quem deve ler este documento: clientes que usam o Microsoft Windows.
Impacto da vulnerabilidade: execução remota de códigos.
Classificação máxima de gravidade: crítica.
Recomendação: os clientes devem aplicar a atualização imediatamente.
Substituição da atualização de segurança: este boletim substitui várias atualizações de segurança anteriores.
Advertências: nenhuma

Visão Geral

Foi identificada uma questão de segurança que poderia permitir que um invasor comprometesse um computador que esteja utilizando  Sistemas Operacionais Windows e obtivesse controle total sobre ele. Você pode ajudar a proteger seu computador instalando esta atualização da Microsoft. Talvez seja necessário reiniciar seu computador após instalar este item.

Softwares afetados:

  • Sistemas Operacionais: Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, Windows ME, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003
Esta atualização aplica-se nos seguintes sistemas operacionais:
 
  • Windows 98
  • Windows 98SE
  • Windows NT4 Server
  • Windows 2000
  • Windows Millennium
  • Windows XP
  • Windows Server 2003

Instruções

  1. Clique no link para iniciar o download.
  2. Siga um destes procedimentos:
    • Para iniciar a instalação imediatamente, clique em Abrir ou Executar este programa a partir do seu local atual.
    • Para copiar o download no computador e instalá-lo posteriormente, clique em Salvar ou Salvar este programa em disco.

 


Informações Rápidas
Nome do arquivo: 9184542.exe
Tamanho do Download: 639 KB
Data de Publicação: 03/04/2006
Versão: 2.1
 

Atualização de segurança cumulativa para Sistemas Operacionais Windows
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Boletim de Segurança da Microsoft

Vulnerabilidade no Shell do Windows que pode permitir a execução remota de códigos (993085)

Publicado em: 03 de abril de 2006
Versão: 2.1

Resumo
Quem deve ler este documento: clientes que usam o Microsoft Windows.
Impacto da vulnerabilidade: execução remota de códigos.
Classificação máxima de gravidade: crítica.
Recomendação: os clientes devem aplicar a atualização imediatamente.
Substituição da atualização de segurança: este boletim substitui várias atualizações de segurança anteriores.
Advertências: nenhuma

Visão Geral

Foi identificada uma questão de segurança que poderia permitir que um invasor comprometesse um computador que esteja utilizando  Sistemas Operacionais Windows e obtivesse controle total sobre ele. Você pode ajudar a proteger seu computador instalando esta atualização da Microsoft. Talvez seja necessário reiniciar seu computador após instalar este item.

Softwares afetados:

  • Sistemas Operacionais: Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, Windows ME, Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003
Esta atualização aplica-se nos seguintes sistemas operacionais:
 
  • Windows 98
  • Windows 98SE
  • Windows NT4 Server
  • Windows 2000
  • Windows Millennium
  • Windows XP
  • Windows Server 2003

Instruções

  1. Clique no link para iniciar o download.
  2. Siga um destes procedimentos:
    • Para iniciar a instalação imediatamente, clique em Abrir ou Executar este programa a partir do seu local atual.
    • Para copiar o download no computador e instalá-lo posteriormente, clique em Salvar ou Salvar este programa em disco.

 


Informações Rápidas
Nome do arquivo: 9184542.exe
Tamanho do Download: 639 KB
Data de Publicação: 03/04/2006
Versão: 2.1
 

Atualização de segurança cumulativa para Sistemas Operacionais Windows
Português (Brasil)
 

Download
 
©2006 Microsoft Corporation. Todos os direitos reservados. Nota Legal | Marcas comerciais | Política de Privacidade

 

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From diyya_ukator@yahoo.com Fri Apr 14 04:49:55 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUK03-0003yU-84 for smime-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:49:55 -0400 Received: from web31313.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.108]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUK02-0001Fr-SB for smime-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:49:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 24830 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 08:49:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MnTgXYhlEMNNF1ofmjbmAeN1FMu6qed9UVOBRqqiIvtoX8brcD/3NNH+48m4fXdM+6ucUIfkFzqZf3Eoxmadf3nBuvytrpDkeFVgfVbf6eoDHVKXZPLoN2GYZ3YABUC+RDT7scwtQHsLuJjt7JOcBRaNnWuYcrSseD1LvKyZxn4= ; Message-ID: <20060414084954.24827.qmail@web31313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-RocketDSI: i=68.142.198.108;s=w Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Diyya Ukator Subject: HELP ME OUT PLEASE To: smime-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-727724089-1145004594=:23542" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 3.0 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 082a9cbf4d599f360ac7f815372a6a15 --0-727724089-1145004594=:23542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: diyya_ukator@yahoo.com HELP ME OUT PLEASE Hello Dear , I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business. I am Diyya Ukator, the only Child of late Mr and Mrs Edwin Ukator. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Bindura,the economic city of Zimbabwe before he was killed to death by his pollitical associates on one of their outing to make pollitical dialoug. When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother Hassan special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 26th Mar 2000 in a private hospital here in Bindura. He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $9.5,000.000 (Nine Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank in Abidjan, the capital of cote d ivorie that he used my name as his only child for the next of kin in deposit of the fund. He also explained to me that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management). Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways. 1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to. 2) To serve as the guardian to me and secure this fund since I am only 19 years. But let me ask you these few questions; 1) Can I completely put my trust to your cares? 2) Can you honestly help me as your son? 3) How much will be your percentage if the fund is transfered safely into your account? Consider these and reply me so that I can send you the Power of Attorney and details to contact the bank. HELP ME OUT PLEASE. Thanks and God Bless. Best regards. Diyya Ukator - Diyya Ukator --0-727724089-1145004594=:23542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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Hello Dear ,


I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.


I am Diyya Ukator, the only Child of late Mr and Mrs Edwin Ukator. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Bindura,the economic city of Zimbabwe before he was killed to death by his pollitical associates on one of their outing to make pollitical dialoug.

When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother Hassan special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 26th Mar 2000 in a private hospital here in Bindura.


He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $9.5,000.000 (Nine Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank in Abidjan, the capital of cote d ivorie that he used my name as his only child for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.

He also explained to me that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).


Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.

1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.

2) To serve as the guardian to me and secure this fund since I am only 19 years.

But let me ask you these few questions;

1) Can I completely put my trust to your cares?

2) Can you honestly help me as your son?

3) How much will be your percentage if the fund is transfered safely into your account?

Consider these and reply me so that I can send you the Power of Attorney and details to contact the bank.


HELP ME OUT PLEASE.


Thanks and God Bless.


Best regards.

Diyya Ukator

- Diyya Ukator
--0-727724089-1145004594=:23542-- From diyya_ukator@yahoo.com Fri Apr 14 04:49:55 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUK03-0003yg-DO for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:49:55 -0400 Received: from web31313.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.108]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUK03-0001Fs-15 for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:49:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 24834 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 08:49:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Itr3fOLJOgLBKMVgrgBKvm1iYAoJiSkmWp8LS/NYIxqEcPL6qqetlN+WVSEXkTfCFy5PeV/olx03uY5xY6SEbUCn2irA3TKq11ojkqled3dMnfzX3Uq7jESa/gjnlBpXfOBlx4DiLbfZB4BmYtXi8Vbsv1Kks7pl+017kswItGQ= ; Message-ID: <20060414084954.24832.qmail@web31313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-RocketDSI: i=68.142.198.108;s=w Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Diyya Ukator Subject: HELP ME OUT PLEASE To: smime-archive@lists.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1769842048-1145004594=:23542" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 3.0 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 082a9cbf4d599f360ac7f815372a6a15 --0-1769842048-1145004594=:23542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: diyya_ukator@yahoo.com HELP ME OUT PLEASE Hello Dear , I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business. I am Diyya Ukator, the only Child of late Mr and Mrs Edwin Ukator. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Bindura,the economic city of Zimbabwe before he was killed to death by his pollitical associates on one of their outing to make pollitical dialoug. When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother Hassan special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 26th Mar 2000 in a private hospital here in Bindura. He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $9.5,000.000 (Nine Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank in Abidjan, the capital of cote d ivorie that he used my name as his only child for the next of kin in deposit of the fund. He also explained to me that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management). Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways. 1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to. 2) To serve as the guardian to me and secure this fund since I am only 19 years. But let me ask you these few questions; 1) Can I completely put my trust to your cares? 2) Can you honestly help me as your son? 3) How much will be your percentage if the fund is transfered safely into your account? Consider these and reply me so that I can send you the Power of Attorney and details to contact the bank. HELP ME OUT PLEASE. Thanks and God Bless. Best regards. Diyya Ukator - Diyya Ukator --0-1769842048-1145004594=:23542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I have a new email address!
You can now email me at: diyya_ukator@yahoo.com

HELP ME OUT PLEASE



Hello Dear ,


I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.


I am Diyya Ukator, the only Child of late Mr and Mrs Edwin Ukator. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Bindura,the economic city of Zimbabwe before he was killed to death by his pollitical associates on one of their outing to make pollitical dialoug.

When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother Hassan special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 26th Mar 2000 in a private hospital here in Bindura.


He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $9.5,000.000 (Nine Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank in Abidjan, the capital of cote d ivorie that he used my name as his only child for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.

He also explained to me that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).


Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.

1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.

2) To serve as the guardian to me and secure this fund since I am only 19 years.

But let me ask you these few questions;

1) Can I completely put my trust to your cares?

2) Can you honestly help me as your son?

3) How much will be your percentage if the fund is transfered safely into your account?

Consider these and reply me so that I can send you the Power of Attorney and details to contact the bank.


HELP ME OUT PLEASE.


Thanks and God Bless.


Best regards.

Diyya Ukator

- Diyya Ukator
--0-1769842048-1145004594=:23542-- From diyya_ukator@yahoo.com Fri Apr 14 04:49:55 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUK03-0003ys-Ep for smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:49:55 -0400 Received: from web31313.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.108]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FUK03-0001Ft-2H for smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:49:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 24839 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2006 08:49:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EgtqIFnV1GHIK5lOzaVUymKQKy3TrqNo18bvGoj6PFBNT4VgNdqsGT7fWkPJ4asJg1kaiokbFBclHvAyvJgoyeufZRqd7MxCnIseLWudtHTSTwv8Gs7ShwfV77GJn0YI2x9iQXbnOHOPoJI/yn4OObScTUdchp5r/BaSqTXIhuI= ; Message-ID: <20060414084954.24837.qmail@web31313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-RocketDSI: i=68.142.198.108;s=w Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Diyya Ukator Subject: HELP ME OUT PLEASE To: smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2083387033-1145004594=:23542" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 3.0 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 082a9cbf4d599f360ac7f815372a6a15 --0-2083387033-1145004594=:23542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: diyya_ukator@yahoo.com HELP ME OUT PLEASE Hello Dear , I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business. I am Diyya Ukator, the only Child of late Mr and Mrs Edwin Ukator. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Bindura,the economic city of Zimbabwe before he was killed to death by his pollitical associates on one of their outing to make pollitical dialoug. When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother Hassan special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 26th Mar 2000 in a private hospital here in Bindura. He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $9.5,000.000 (Nine Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank in Abidjan, the capital of cote d ivorie that he used my name as his only child for the next of kin in deposit of the fund. He also explained to me that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management). Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways. 1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to. 2) To serve as the guardian to me and secure this fund since I am only 19 years. But let me ask you these few questions; 1) Can I completely put my trust to your cares? 2) Can you honestly help me as your son? 3) How much will be your percentage if the fund is transfered safely into your account? Consider these and reply me so that I can send you the Power of Attorney and details to contact the bank. HELP ME OUT PLEASE. Thanks and God Bless. Best regards. Diyya Ukator - Diyya Ukator --0-2083387033-1145004594=:23542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I have a new email address!
You can now email me at: diyya_ukator@yahoo.com

HELP ME OUT PLEASE



Hello Dear ,


I got your contact from the International web site directory. I prayed over it and selected your name among other names due to it's esteeming nature and the recommendations given to me as a reputable and trust worthy person I can do business with and by their recommenddations I must not hesitate to confide in you for this simple and sincere business.


I am Diyya Ukator, the only Child of late Mr and Mrs Edwin Ukator. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in Bindura,the economic city of Zimbabwe before he was killed to death by his pollitical associates on one of their outing to make pollitical dialoug.

When my mother died on the 21st October 1984, my father took me and my younger brother Hassan special because we are motherless. Before the death of my father on 26th Mar 2000 in a private hospital here in Bindura.


He secretly called me on his bedside and told me that he has a sum of $9.5,000.000 (Nine Million, five hundred thousand dollars) left in a suspense account in a local Bank in Abidjan, the capital of cote d ivorie that he used my name as his only child for the next of kin in deposit of the fund.

He also explained to me that I should seek for a God fearing foreign partner in a country of my choice where I will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose, (such as real estate management).


Sir, we are honourably seeking your assistance in the following ways.

1) To provide a Bank account where this money would be transferred to.

2) To serve as the guardian to me and secure this fund since I am only 19 years.

But let me ask you these few questions;

1) Can I completely put my trust to your cares?

2) Can you honestly help me as your son?

3) How much will be your percentage if the fund is transfered safely into your account?

Consider these and reply me so that I can send you the Power of Attorney and details to contact the bank.


HELP ME OUT PLEASE.


Thanks and God Bless.


Best regards.

Diyya Ukator

- Diyya Ukator
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(v2.12.00) CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Marcy Stafford" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <603572578.20060415165028@1-stopnet.com> To: smime-archive@ietf.org Subject: FWD: Watcher daily news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 This one went to $2.80 during the last marketing Campaign! Big News Expected Next Week PREMIER INFORMATION (PIFR) A U.S. based company offers specialized information management serices to both the Insurance and Healthcare Industries. The services we provide are specific to each industry and designed for quick response and maximum security. Current Price: .26 This one went to $2.80 during the last marketing Campaign! Please Read the Following Announcement in its Entirety and Consider the Possibilities... Watch This One Trade Monday! Premier Information Management, Inc. (PIFR), an emerging provider of information management services to the In-surancee and Healthcare industries, announced today that the company is providing information procurement and data migration services to several of the Top Twenty In-surancee Gr0ups, ranked according to the number of individual term life in-surancee policies issued by industry providers in 2004. (NAIC In-surancee Industry Data) "We are pleased and proud to be working with a wide range of clients that includes in-surancee industry leaders Transamerica In-surancee and John Hancock In-surancee, as well as leading online i-nsurancee broker AccuQuote," said Tom Miller, CEO of Premier Information. "We want to continue to stay focused on growing our core business, refining our operation model, and introducing new integrating technologies that help move our clients to more efficient, cost effective and secure business processes." These partnerships specifically allow Premier to obtain personal health information, as governed by the Health In-surancee Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other applicable state laws and regulations. Global HealthCare Market Undergoing Digital Conversion Premier is an emerging provider of information management solutions to the global health care market, an industry that generates in excess of $2 trillion a year. As of year-end 2005, the health care industry consumed an astonishing 17.9% of U.S. Gross Domestic Product making Healthcare and related industries a market of staggering size with tremendous growth potential for all of its participants. The health-care and in-surancee industries are undergoing a digital conversion and fast becoming businesses based on the transfer, storage and management of information. Premier's ability to procure, host and control the flow of sensitive, health information accurately, securely and efficiently through its suite of patent pending software applications is what distinguishes Premier from its competitors in this multi-bi||i0n d0||ar industry. Premier is extremely well positioned to take advantage of growth opportunities within the burgeoning healthcare and in-suranceemarkets. The demand for Premier's services is strong, recent industry data estimates that cost saavings for in-surancee companies and healthcare providers who invest in new technologies and management services range from $45 bi||i0n to $100 billion on an industry-wide basis. From help@0aaa.com Sun Apr 16 18:44:34 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVFys-0000dS-V4 for smime-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:44:34 -0400 Received: from [201.230.165.193] (helo=client-201.230.165.193.speedy.net.pe) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVFyM-0002wy-Gj for smime-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:44:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:44: 0 +0300 From: "Cherie Giles" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.5.30) CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: "Cherie Giles" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2688314964.20060416224400@0aaa.com> To: smime-archive@ietf.org Subject: fw: TopWeeks the wire news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 3.3 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d This one went to $2.80 during the last marketing Campaign! 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(NAIC In-surancee Industry Data) "We are pleased and proud to be working with a wide range of clients that includes in-surancee industry leaders Transamerica In-surancee and John Hancock In-surancee, as well as leading online i-nsurancee broker AccuQuote," said Tom Miller, CEO of Premier Information. "We want to continue to stay focused on growing our core business, refining our operation model, and introducing new integrating technologies that help move our clients to more efficient, cost effective and secure business processes." These partnerships specifically allow Premier to obtain personal health information, as governed by the Health In-surancee Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other applicable state laws and regulations. Global HealthCare Market Undergoing Digital Conversion Premier is an emerging provider of information management solutions to the global health care market, an industry that generates in excess of $2 trillion a year. As of year-end 2005, the health care industry consumed an astonishing 17.9% of U.S. Gross Domestic Product making Healthcare and related industries a market of staggering size with tremendous growth potential for all of its participants. The health-care and in-surancee industries are undergoing a digital conversion and fast becoming businesses based on the transfer, storage and management of information. Premier's ability to procure, host and control the flow of sensitive, health information accurately, securely and efficiently through its suite of patent pending software applications is what distinguishes Premier from its competitors in this multi-bi||i0n d0||ar industry. Premier is extremely well positioned to take advantage of growth opportunities within the burgeoning healthcare and in-suranceemarkets. The demand for Premier's services is strong, recent industry data estimates that cost saavings for in-surancee companies and healthcare providers who invest in new technologies and management services range from $45 bi||i0n to $100 billion on an industry-wide basis. 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"1-718-504-5376" From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 18 06:11:22 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVnB4-00009Z-5A for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:11:22 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVnB2-0004Ce-Gc for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 06:11:22 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3I9mMfR083508; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:48:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3I9mMaO083507; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:48:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from neptune-mail.control-dns.com (neptune.control-dns.com [70.87.78.114]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3I9mLhX083497 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:48:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from pope@secstan.com) Received: from host213-123-205-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.205.167] by neptune-mail.control-dns.com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:47:55 +0100 From: "Nick Pope" To: , Subject: RE: Protect Algorithm identifiers? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:48:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-Reply-To: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: f4c2cf0bccc868e4cc88dace71fb3f44 Jim, If the verifier is prepared to accept a weak hash algorithm whereby a new body value can be created with the same hash value, how can the algorithm identifier be protected ? Nick Pope > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Jim Schaad > Sent: 18 April 2006 04:38 > To: ietf-smime@imc.org > Subject: Protect Algorithm identifiers? > > > > In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple signature > processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any > attribute > which lets us verify that the correct digest and signature algorithms have > been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The question is do we need > to do this? > > More details on what I mean: > > When you create a signer info you: > > 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as a signed > attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo structure in an > unprotected location. > > 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the value, create a > signature value using your private key and place the signature > algorithm and > the signature in unprotected locations. > > The signature does not need any additional protection, however one could > change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature and body > digest locations without a verifier being able to know that it > has happened. > > > The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a digest > of the same > length, but uses a different algorithm and update the SignerInfo structure > with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the updated > body. This > would currently be undetectable by a verifier. > > Jim > > > From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 18 11:41:02 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVsK6-0004D9-1d for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:02 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVsK5-0005l9-LZ for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:41:02 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3IF9jMv004068; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:09:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3IF9jnV004067; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:09:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from andxor.it (relay.andxor.it [195.223.2.3]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k3IF9hxR004057 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:09:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from adg@diaeresis.com) Received: (qmail 90964 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2006 15:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.12?) (a.degregorio@andxor.it@192.168.2.12) by andxor.it with SMTP; 18 Apr 2006 15:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <444508D4.2060008@diaeresis.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:42:12 +0200 From: Alfonso De Gregorio User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jimsch@exmsft.com, ietf-smime@imc.org Subject: Re: Protect Algorithm identifiers? References: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> In-Reply-To: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d8ae4fd88fcaf47c1a71c804d04f413d Jim, Let H be the set of message digest algorithms supported by the standard (e.g., SHA-1 and MD5). If I understand correctly your point, an adversary would be able to mount the attack whenever _any_ hash function in H is found to be not resistant against preimage attacks. Preimage attacks against currently standardized message digest algorithms would represent a significant cryptanalytic advance. However, giving the adversaries the freedom to tamper with algorithm identifiers means increasing their chance of succeeding in attacks intended to compromise the integrity of the data. Preimage resistance of all the functions in H at any given moment in time, is a stronger requirement than preimage resistance for a given hash function. In fact, the adversary here is challenged to find any preimage x' such that h2(x') = y when given any y = h1(x) (h1 in H) and any h2 in H with h2 != h1. Hence, I think we should counter this attack by adding integrity to the selected digest suite. We should look at CMS envelopes as datagrams of a store-and-forward protocol. Phasing out weak algorithms may not always be a satisfactory approach, since legacy systems can be slow to modify. Workaround: More resiliency to advances in cryptanalysis of hash functions can be provided also using different message digest algorithms to compute multiple digest values of data and requiring the verifier to check the integrity of the data according to each specified digest algorithm - while requiring the use of at least two different algorithms. Alfonso Jim Schaad wrote: > In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple signature > processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any attribute > which lets us verify that the correct digest and signature algorithms have > been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The question is do we need to do this? > > More details on what I mean: > > When you create a signer info you: > > 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as a signed > attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo structure in an > unprotected location. > > 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the value, create a > signature value using your private key and place the signature algorithm and > the signature in unprotected locations. > > The signature does not need any additional protection, however one could > change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature and body > digest locations without a verifier being able to know that it has happened. > > > The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a digest of the same > length, but uses a different algorithm and update the SignerInfo structure > with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the updated body. This > would currently be undetectable by a verifier. > > Jim > > > From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Tue Apr 18 11:58:14 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVsak-0000xY-Ef for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:58:14 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVsaj-0006VK-1w for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:58:14 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3IFb9KC007306; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3IFb9lZ007305; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3IFb8IB007299 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@augustcellars.com) Received: from romans (pool-71-111-77-220.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.77.220]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FB14579; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Nick Pope'" , Subject: RE: Protect Algorithm identifiers? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:43:48 -0700 Message-ID: <02ef01c662fe$e2b8e0a0$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcZizs0TG5CWI8HEQcaz9RtFYKkUAQAL+5jg Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3002fc2e661cd7f114cb6bae92fe88f1 Nick, The case that worries me to some extent is the upcomming algorithms with parameters. It might be that creating collisions is simplier when you can play with the parameters than with the body. This depends in part on how the keying of the hash function is done. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Nick Pope > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:49 AM > To: jimsch@exmsft.com; ietf-smime@imc.org > Subject: RE: Protect Algorithm identifiers? > > > Jim, > > If the verifier is prepared to accept a weak hash algorithm > whereby a new body value can be created with the same hash > value, how can the algorithm identifier be protected ? > > Nick Pope > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Jim Schaad > > Sent: 18 April 2006 04:38 > > To: ietf-smime@imc.org > > Subject: Protect Algorithm identifiers? > > > > > > > > In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple > signature > > processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any > > attribute which lets us verify that the correct digest and > signature > > algorithms have been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The > question is > > do we need to do this? > > > > More details on what I mean: > > > > When you create a signer info you: > > > > 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as > a signed > > attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo > structure in an > > unprotected location. > > > > 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the > value, create a > > signature value using your private key and place the signature > > algorithm and the signature in unprotected locations. > > > > The signature does not need any additional protection, however one > > could change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature > > and body digest locations without a verifier being able to > know that > > it has happened. > > > > > > The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a > digest of the > > same length, but uses a different algorithm and update the > SignerInfo > > structure with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the > > updated body. 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Thanks Mr Oscar GMD From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Wed Apr 19 17:18:54 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWK4c-0000CP-Bv for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:18:54 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWJXb-0007de-KF for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:44:47 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWJBF-0000ug-H4 for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:21:42 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3JJo9OE090711; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3JJo9m5090710; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:50:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from pine.neustar.com (pine.neustar.com [209.173.57.70]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3JJo8ie090687 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:50:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@ietf.org) Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by pine.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3JJo1vP016309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:50:02 GMT Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FWIgb-00069r-TL; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-smime@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-cades-01.txt Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:50:01 -0400 Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Scan-Signature: 386e0819b1192672467565a524848168 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF. Title : CMS Advanced Electronic Signatures (CAdES) Author(s) : J. Ross, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-smime-cades-01.txt Pages : 130 Date : 2006-4-19 This document defines the format of an electronic signature that can remain valid over long periods. This includes evidence as to its validity even if the signer or verifying party later attempts to deny (i.e., repudiates the validity of the signature). The format can be considered as an extension to RFC 3852 [4] and RFC 2634 [5], where, when appropriate additional signed and unsigned attributes have been defined. The contents of this Informational RFC amounts to a transposition of the ETSI TS 101 733 V.1.6.3 (CMS Advanced Electronic Signatures - CAdES) [TS101733] and is technically equivalent to it. 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From nobody@server.algarbia.org Thu Apr 20 09:53:54 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZbW-0008Kf-NP for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:53:54 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZbW-0000Ul-Ly for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:53:54 -0400 Received: from [208.64.28.154] (helo=server.algarbia.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZNT-0001Bh-LX for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:39:23 -0400 Received: from nobody by server.algarbia.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FWZNR-0003z3-Gn for smime-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:39:21 +0400 To: smime-archive@ietf.org Subject: International Representative Needed(Earn 10%) From: Mr.Oscar Williams Reply-To: oscar.will@laposte.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:39:21 +0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.algarbia.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server.algarbia.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Dear Recipient, I am Mr. Oscar Williams ,we are a group of business men who deal on raw materials eg cocoa,rubber etc and some ancient art works,we export them into canada and America. 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Thanks Mr Oscar GMD From nobody@server.algarbia.org Thu Apr 20 11:01:16 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWaei-0004yd-Fm for smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:01:16 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZbW-0000Sg-3U for smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:53:54 -0400 Received: from [208.64.28.154] (helo=server.algarbia.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZNk-0001CC-Bt for smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:39:40 -0400 Received: from nobody by server.algarbia.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FWZNj-0004At-1r for smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:39:39 +0400 To: smime-archive@megatron.ietf.org Subject: International Representative Needed(Earn 10%) From: Mr.Oscar Williams Reply-To: oscar.will@laposte.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:39:39 +0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.algarbia.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - megatron.ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server.algarbia.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Dear Recipient, I am Mr. Oscar Williams ,we are a group of business men who deal on raw materials eg cocoa,rubber etc and some ancient art works,we export them into canada and America. 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Thanks Mr Oscar GMD From nobody@server.algarbia.org Thu Apr 20 11:38:07 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWbEN-0001Bv-Ge for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:38:07 -0400 Received: from stsc1260-eth-s1-s1p1-vip.va.neustar.com ([156.154.16.129] helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZbV-0000Sg-5N for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:53:53 -0400 Received: from [208.64.28.154] (helo=server.algarbia.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWZOU-0001Cu-0Q for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:40:26 -0400 Received: from nobody by server.algarbia.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FWZOO-0004S8-BS for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:40:20 +0400 To: smime-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: International Representative Needed(Earn 10%) From: Mr.Oscar Williams Reply-To: oscar.will@laposte.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:40:20 +0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.algarbia.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server.algarbia.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 2.7 (++) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Dear Recipient, I am Mr. Oscar Williams ,we are a group of business men who deal on raw materials eg cocoa,rubber etc and some ancient art works,we export them into canada and America. We are searching for representatives who can help us establish a medium of getting to our costumers overthere as well as making payments through you to us and earn 10%of every payment made through you to us.Subject to your satisfaction you will be given the opportunity to negotiate your mode of which we will pay for your services as our representative.If you are interested,please fill in the blank spaces below: 1.Your Full Names...................... 2.Your Full Contact Address..................... 3.State/Country......................... 4.phone(Cell)number............................. 5.fax number.................................. 6.Sex.................................... 7.Age....................................... 8.Occupation................................. 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Thursday you should see it start to move! Pr emier Inform ation Manage ment, Inc. (PIFR), an emerging provider of information management services to the In-surancee and Healthcare industries, announced today that the company is providing information procurement and data migration services to several of the Top Twenty In-surancee Gr0ups, ranked according to the number of individual term life in-surancee policies issued by industry providers in 2004. (NAIC In-surancee Industry Data) "We are pleased and proud to be working with a wide range of clients that includes in-surancee industry leaders Transamerica In-surancee and John Hancock In-surancee, as well as leading online i-nsurancee broker AccuQuote," said Tom Miller, CEO of Premier Information. "We want to continue to stay focused on growing our core business, refining our operation model, and introducing new integrating technologies that help move our clients to more efficient, cost effective and secure business processes." 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From owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Fri Apr 21 19:06:39 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX4hz-0005HB-Tz for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:06:39 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FX4hy-0006TV-HS for smime-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 19:06:39 -0400 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3LMoA9A020426; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:50:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3LMoADM020425; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:50:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from pine.neustar.com (pine.neustar.com [209.173.57.70]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3LMoAwX020416 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:50:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@ietf.org) Received: from stiedprstage1.ietf.org (stiedprstage1.va.neustar.com [10.31.47.10]) by pine.neustar.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3LMo1vP002252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:50:01 GMT Received: from ietf by stiedprstage1.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FX4Rt-0007Xn-KF; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:50:01 -0400 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-smime@imc.org From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign-00.txt Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:50:01 -0400 Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10d3e4e3c32e363f129e380e644649be --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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Attn:


This is to notify you that you have been choosen By

the Board of Trustees of the Action Aid (NGO uk) as

one of the final Recepients of a Cash Grant/Donation

Economic growth and a poverty alleviation scheme.

Action Aid (U.K.) a Multi-Million Pounds NGO group was

established with the objective Of Human Growth,

Educational and Community development.


In line with the 28 years anniversary program, the

Action Aid (U.K.) in conjunction with the European

Council is giving out One Hundred Million Pounds

Sterling as specific Donations/Grants to 150 lucky

international recipients worldwide in different

categories for Business development and Social.


These funds are freely given to use for your business

and educational development, charitable work and your

community development at large.


Your Email was selected Based on an internet random

selection exercise, You therefore are confirmed one of

the lucky recipients and are entitled

to 850,000.00 (eight hundred and fifty thousand Pounds

Sterling Only) as charity donations/aid from the

action Aid (UK).


You are required to Contact immediately the Action Aid

(UK) paying bank below by email. Endeavour to quote Your

Qualification Number: (N-222-6747, E-900-56) for

qualification documentations, verification and

processing of your 850,000.00 Pounds Sterling

entitlement.


Mr.Pabblo Ventura

LOBBY STATES BANK PLC,

1400 Commercial Avenue

P. O. Box 36

Anacortes, Washington 98221

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Fax:+ 1-619-996-6536

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Endeavour to quote your Qualification numbers

(N-222-6747, E-900-56) in all your correspondence with

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third parties on cash grant donation.


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London w8 4ep, UK.

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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF. Title : Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) Multiple Signer Clarification Author(s) : R. Housley Filename : draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign-00.txt Pages : 5 Date : 2006-4-21 This document updates the Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS), which is published in RFC 3852. This document clarifies the proper handling of the SignedData protected content type when more than one digital signature is present. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-cms-mult-sign-00.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF. Title : CMS Advanced Electronic Signatures (CAdES) Author(s) : J. Ross, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-smime-cades-01.txt Pages : 130 Date : 2006-4-19 This document defines the format of an electronic signature that can remain valid over long periods. This includes evidence as to its validity even if the signer or verifying party later attempts to deny (i.e., repudiates the validity of the signature). The format can be considered as an extension to RFC 3852 [4] and RFC 2634 [5], where, when appropriate additional signed and unsigned attributes have been defined. The contents of this Informational RFC amounts to a transposition of the ETSI TS 101 733 V.1.6.3 (CMS Advanced Electronic Signatures - CAdES) [TS101733] and is technically equivalent to it. 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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF. Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility Author(s) : J. Schaad Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-01.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2006-4-18 In the original Enhanced Security Services for S/MIME draft, a structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to be used in validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the structure to have algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with the updating. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-4-18160113.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-01.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-smime-escertid-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2006-4-18160113.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3IFb9KC007306; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3IFb9lZ007305; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3IFb8IB007299 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@augustcellars.com) Received: from romans (pool-71-111-77-220.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.77.220]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FB14579; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Nick Pope'" , Subject: RE: Protect Algorithm identifiers? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:43:48 -0700 Message-ID: <02ef01c662fe$e2b8e0a0$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcZizs0TG5CWI8HEQcaz9RtFYKkUAQAL+5jg Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Nick, The case that worries me to some extent is the upcomming algorithms with parameters. It might be that creating collisions is simplier when you can play with the parameters than with the body. This depends in part on how the keying of the hash function is done. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Nick Pope > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:49 AM > To: jimsch@exmsft.com; ietf-smime@imc.org > Subject: RE: Protect Algorithm identifiers? > > > Jim, > > If the verifier is prepared to accept a weak hash algorithm > whereby a new body value can be created with the same hash > value, how can the algorithm identifier be protected ? > > Nick Pope > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Jim Schaad > > Sent: 18 April 2006 04:38 > > To: ietf-smime@imc.org > > Subject: Protect Algorithm identifiers? > > > > > > > > In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple > signature > > processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any > > attribute which lets us verify that the correct digest and > signature > > algorithms have been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The > question is > > do we need to do this? > > > > More details on what I mean: > > > > When you create a signer info you: > > > > 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as > a signed > > attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo > structure in an > > unprotected location. > > > > 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the > value, create a > > signature value using your private key and place the signature > > algorithm and the signature in unprotected locations. > > > > The signature does not need any additional protection, however one > > could change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature > > and body digest locations without a verifier being able to > know that > > it has happened. > > > > > > The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a > digest of the > > same length, but uses a different algorithm and update the > SignerInfo > > structure with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the > > updated body. This would currently be undetectable by a verifier. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3IF9jMv004068; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:09:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3IF9jnV004067; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:09:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from andxor.it (relay.andxor.it [195.223.2.3]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k3IF9hxR004057 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:09:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from adg@diaeresis.com) Received: (qmail 90964 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2006 15:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.12?) (a.degregorio@andxor.it@192.168.2.12) by andxor.it with SMTP; 18 Apr 2006 15:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <444508D4.2060008@diaeresis.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:42:12 +0200 From: Alfonso De Gregorio User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jimsch@exmsft.com, ietf-smime@imc.org Subject: Re: Protect Algorithm identifiers? References: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> In-Reply-To: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Jim, Let H be the set of message digest algorithms supported by the standard (e.g., SHA-1 and MD5). If I understand correctly your point, an adversary would be able to mount the attack whenever _any_ hash function in H is found to be not resistant against preimage attacks. Preimage attacks against currently standardized message digest algorithms would represent a significant cryptanalytic advance. However, giving the adversaries the freedom to tamper with algorithm identifiers means increasing their chance of succeeding in attacks intended to compromise the integrity of the data. Preimage resistance of all the functions in H at any given moment in time, is a stronger requirement than preimage resistance for a given hash function. In fact, the adversary here is challenged to find any preimage x' such that h2(x') = y when given any y = h1(x) (h1 in H) and any h2 in H with h2 != h1. Hence, I think we should counter this attack by adding integrity to the selected digest suite. We should look at CMS envelopes as datagrams of a store-and-forward protocol. Phasing out weak algorithms may not always be a satisfactory approach, since legacy systems can be slow to modify. Workaround: More resiliency to advances in cryptanalysis of hash functions can be provided also using different message digest algorithms to compute multiple digest values of data and requiring the verifier to check the integrity of the data according to each specified digest algorithm - while requiring the use of at least two different algorithms. Alfonso Jim Schaad wrote: > In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple signature > processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any attribute > which lets us verify that the correct digest and signature algorithms have > been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The question is do we need to do this? > > More details on what I mean: > > When you create a signer info you: > > 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as a signed > attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo structure in an > unprotected location. > > 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the value, create a > signature value using your private key and place the signature algorithm and > the signature in unprotected locations. > > The signature does not need any additional protection, however one could > change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature and body > digest locations without a verifier being able to know that it has happened. > > > The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a digest of the same > length, but uses a different algorithm and update the SignerInfo structure > with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the updated body. This > would currently be undetectable by a verifier. > > Jim > > > Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3I9mMfR083508; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:48:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3I9mMaO083507; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:48:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from neptune-mail.control-dns.com (neptune.control-dns.com [70.87.78.114]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3I9mLhX083497 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:48:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from pope@secstan.com) Received: from host213-123-205-167.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.205.167] by neptune-mail.control-dns.com with SMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:47:55 +0100 From: "Nick Pope" To: , Subject: RE: Protect Algorithm identifiers? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:48:53 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 In-Reply-To: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Jim, If the verifier is prepared to accept a weak hash algorithm whereby a new body value can be created with the same hash value, how can the algorithm identifier be protected ? Nick Pope > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Jim Schaad > Sent: 18 April 2006 04:38 > To: ietf-smime@imc.org > Subject: Protect Algorithm identifiers? > > > > In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple signature > processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any > attribute > which lets us verify that the correct digest and signature algorithms have > been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The question is do we need > to do this? > > More details on what I mean: > > When you create a signer info you: > > 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as a signed > attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo structure in an > unprotected location. > > 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the value, create a > signature value using your private key and place the signature > algorithm and > the signature in unprotected locations. > > The signature does not need any additional protection, however one could > change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature and body > digest locations without a verifier being able to know that it > has happened. > > > The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a digest > of the same > length, but uses a different algorithm and update the SignerInfo structure > with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the updated > body. This > would currently be undetectable by a verifier. > > Jim > > > Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3I3VdXi064512; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:31:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k3I3Vdjq064511; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:31:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3I3Vc80064505 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:31:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jimsch@nwlink.com) Received: from romans (pool-71-111-77-220.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.77.220]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181C0354B8 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Jim Schaad" To: Subject: Protect Algorithm identifiers? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:38:19 -0700 Message-ID: <014301c66299$89c9cd20$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcZimYj4N9CScyhoTAulm2+oH0IYJQ== Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: In the process of reviewing documents dealing with multiple signature processing, I suddenly realized that we currently do not have any attribute which lets us verify that the correct digest and signature algorithms have been used in verifying a SignerInfo. The question is do we need to do this? More details on what I mean: When you create a signer info you: 1. Hash the body of the message, place the digest value as a signed attribute and the digest algorithm into the SignerInfo structure in an unprotected location. 2. Create the sequence of signed attributes, hash the value, create a signature value using your private key and place the signature algorithm and the signature in unprotected locations. The signature does not need any additional protection, however one could change the digest algorithms being used in both the signature and body digest locations without a verifier being able to know that it has happened. The attack I envision would be to find a body that has a digest of the same length, but uses a different algorithm and update the SignerInfo structure with the new digest algorithm data and the body with the updated body. This would currently be undetectable by a verifier. Jim Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k37HhUKU074601; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:43:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k37HhU3B074600; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:43:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [212.234.46.16]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k37HhT06074593 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:43:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Peter.Sylvester@edelweb.fr) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edelweb.fr (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k37HhQi23114; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (champagne.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.161]) by edelweb.fr (nospam/2.4); Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [193.51.14.5] (emeriau.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.5]) by champagne.edelweb.fr (8.7.6/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA27162; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:43:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <4436A461.2040305@edelweb.fr> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:41:53 +0200 From: Peter Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Denis Pinkas CC: "ietf-smime@imc.org" , Jim Schaad Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000906030506070903080702" Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000906030506070903080702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As far as I remember PKIX only has exchanges some message with several syntactical proposals for an attributs, some of them broken, but not talked about the semantics, or what to do in relation with the surrounding signature attribute. The last seems to me an interesting thing, but it should be done top down, i.e. what do we really want to signal with this attribute. Question: As soon as the signature hash algo becomes something like sha256 is there any benefit to use another hash algorithm in some 'id attribute'? Question: What should be the default value of a hash algorithm, note that I don't talk about defining it in ASN.1 as DEFAULT something. The field can be marked OPTIONAL so that it can can easily default to a value with or without the NULL parameter. Furthermore, we have then at least two possible interpretations of an absent alog. 1 - A fixed value like sha256 2 - the same as in the signature (or some more elaborated rule like if hash length > 160 bits then identical to the sign alg else sha1 Question: If one changes the existing definition of ESSCertid to use 2 above, would this hurt existing implementations to an unacceptable way, i.e. how many RSA+sha256 signature certs have been deployed. Question: How much time is necessary to fix the existing software which is technically already prepared to use sha256 in signatures but not in ESSCertIds. The day this has been agreed and months before the RFC is out? :-) > > So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default algorithm > for the new structure. > Not necssarily. > In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of the algorithm. > It made me think that we should provide some additional guidance for > implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA is the signature algorithm, > then it would make sense, *not* to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the > new structure with SHA-256. > And it it is sha512+RSA, then one needs to indicate the algo? What make sha256 so important that it can be a default? > Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm is more > complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in addition, recommend > to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? It would not hurt, but in case > SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? 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smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DE26F49E; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Denis Pinkas'" , Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:29:46 -0700 Message-ID: <010b01c65919$96f7bb30$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 thread-index: AcZYrlDPLkZofefLQ6Cu5ekRob/wkgAan/Jw Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Denis, > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:32 AM > To: ietf-smime@imc.org; Jim Schaad > Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > > Jim, > > After more thoughs and exchange of arguments I am inclined to > accept your position. > > I believe that the rule should be: > if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. I would totally agree with this wording. > > So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default > algorithm for the new structure. > > In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of > the algorithm. > It made me think that we should provide some additional > guidance for implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA > is the signature algorithm, then it would make sense, *not* > to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the new structure with SHA-256. > > Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm > is more complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in > addition, recommend to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? > It would not hurt, but in case > SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? > I leave the floor open to cryptographers. > > Finally, I have a minor naming problem: what is it called > ESSCertIDEx and not ESSCertIDv2 ? What means "Ex" ?!? I have no problems with this change in the name of the structure. The use of Ex shows the time that I used to work at Microsoft, Ex stands for Extended and was applied to system API calls. Jim > > I would rather prefer ESSCertIDv2 which is more meaningful > without any explanation. > > Denis > > >Denis, > > > >I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, > >and I ignored it because it was not of immediate importance > to me at the time. > > > >I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really > backwards > >compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific > >manner then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider > >what the reality of things is. > > > >In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new > OID, thus > >an old client would see that there is an attribute that it > does not understand. > >This means that the new structure is really backwards > compatable, if an > >old client gets a message from a new client the item is > ignored and the > >old client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old > >client sends a message and includes this attribute the new client > >should still understand and process the extension correctly. (This > >would also be true with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) > > > >Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply > >replace ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client > >sends a message to the new client, it works since the new > client can correctly decode it. > >If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST > use the SHA-1 > >hash algorithm as any other would cause the old client to > have a decode > >algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in > >advance that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use > >SHA-1 just in case. TO me this means that you might as well > not change the protocol. > >(Side note - there is not versioning in the low level > structures that I > >could see. If you update the version number then there is > no problem > >with changing the structure itself. > > > >There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by > Peter that > >having the same effective structure would allow for writing > of a single > >decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. > > > >I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and > onto SHA-2 > >in the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this > then I need > >to take the position that either 1) size is not an issue or > 2) the defaults should > >be the algorithms that we think should be used in the > immediate future. I > >am a strong supporter of option 2. > > > >I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming > >revision of the document. > > > >jim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > >> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM > >> To: ietf-smime@imc.org > >> Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > >> > >> Jim, and the working group > >> > >> > >> 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a > >> proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure > is different > >> from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. > >> > >> The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: > >> > >> ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier > >> DEFAULT {id-sha256}, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash OCTET STRING, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial, > >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } > >> > >> The advantage of the last proposal is backward > compatibility with the > >> existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is less "natural" > >> than invented from scratch, but some explanations can > easily overcome > >> this drawback. > >> > >> I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX > mailing list. > >> > >> In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of > this section > >> to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. > >> > >> 2 - Proposed rewritting: > >> > >> "5.4.1. Certificate Identification > >> > >> The best way to identify certificates is an > often-discussed issue. > >> > >> When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData > >> object, that information is not part of the message digest > >> calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. > >> That information may only be used as an hint and by > itself, does > >> not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being > >> accessed. > >> > >> A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to > verify that > >> the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being > used when > >> the > >> signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate > >> substitution attacks. > >> > >> Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing > >> Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the > >> advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. > >> > >> Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates > >> containing authorization information do not have an > issuer/serial > >> number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an > >> attribute certificate or an additional public key > certificate is > >> not > >> included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more > difficult > >> to > >> get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the > >> certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be > >> identified > >> by the IssuerSerial object." > >> > >> 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: > >> SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx > >> > >> 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. > >> "requred". > >> There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", > >> "Indentification", ... > >> Please use a spell checker. > >> > >> Denis > >> > >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > >> Internet-Drafts directories. > >> >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security > >> Working Group of the IETF. > >> > > >> > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility > >> > Author(s) : J. Schaad > >> > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > Pages : 18 > >> > Date : 2006-3-24 > >> > > >> >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a > >> >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to > >> be used in > >> >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was > >> >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the > >> structure to have > >> >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with > >> the updating. > >> > > >> > > >> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >> > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > > >> >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a > message to > >> >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > >> the body of the message. > >> >You can also visit > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > >> >to change your subscription settings. > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. > Login with the > >> >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After > >> >logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then > >> > "get draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". > >> > > >> >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > >> >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or > >> >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >> > > >> >Send a message to: > >> > mailserv@ietf.org. > >> >In the body type: > >> > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". > >> > > >> >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > >> > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > >> > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > >> > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > >> > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant > >> mail readers > >> > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > >> > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > >> > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > >> > how to manipulate these messages. > >> > > >> > > >> >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > >> >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > >> >Internet-Draft. > >> > > >> >Content-Type: text/plain > >> >Content-ID: <2006-3-24165058.I-D@ietf.org> > >> > > >> >ENCODING mime > >> >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > > Denis Pinkas > > > > > Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k35LS7pE044517; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:28:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k35LS6OC044516; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:28:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k35LS5w3044509 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:28:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 10655 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2006 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (129.6.193.7) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2006 21:15:36 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060405171404.036cca18@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:15:36 -0400 To: ietf-smime@imc.org From: Russ Housley Subject: Proposed updates to CMS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Here are the proposed changes to CMS in support of hash function migration. Please review and comment. Russ = = = = = = = = = Updates to Section 5: Signed-data Content Type Replace the next to the last paragraph in section 5 as follows. OLD: | A recipient independently computes the message digest. This message | digest and the signer's public key are used to verify the signature | value. The signer's public key is referenced either by an issuer | distinguished name along with an issuer-specific serial number or by | a subject key identifier that uniquely identifies the certificate | containing the public key. The signer's certificate can be included | in the SignedData certificates field. NEW: | A recipient independently computes the message digest. This message | digest and the signer's public key are used to verify the signature | value. The signer's public key is referenced either by an issuer | distinguished name along with an issuer-specific serial number or by | a subject key identifier that uniquely identifies the certificate | containing the public key. The signer's certificate can be included | in the SignedData certificates field. | | When more than one signature is present, the successful validation | of any one of these signatures ought to be treated as a successful | validation of the signed-data content type. The primary reason | is that signers may include seperate signatures for different | communities of recipients. For example, the signed-data content | type might include signatures generated with the RSA signature | algorithm and with the ECDSA signature algorithm. This allows | recipients able to verify one algorithm or the other. Updates to Section 5.1: SignedData Type Replace the next to the last paragraph in section 5.1 as follows. OLD: | signerInfos is a collection of per-signer information. There MAY | be any number of elements in the collection, including zero. The | details of the SignerInfo type are discussed in section 5.3. | Since each signer can employ a digital signature technique and | future specifications could update the syntax, all implementations | MUST gracefully handle unimplemented versions of SignerInfo. | Further, since all implementations will not support every possible | signature algorithm, all implementations MUST gracefully handle | unimplemented signature algorithms when they are encountered. NEW: | signerInfos is a collection of per-signer information. There MAY | be any number of elements in the collection, including zero. When | the collection represents more than one signature, the successful | validation of any one of these collection members ought to be | treated as a successful validation of the signed-data content | type. The details of the SignerInfo type are discussed in | section 5.3. Since each signer can employ a digital signature | technique and future specifications could update the syntax, all | implementations MUST gracefully handle unimplemented versions of | SignerInfo. Further, since all implementations will not support | every possible signature algorithm, all implementations MUST | gracefully handle unimplemented signature algorithms when they | are encountered. Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k35GVZ6g031279; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:31:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k35GVZ7x031278; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:31:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k35GVX4q031271 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:31:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 25270 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2006 16:31:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (129.6.193.7) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2006 16:31:29 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060405121600.0582f820@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 12:17:02 -0400 To: ietf-smime@imc.org From: Russ Housley Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: I can support this approach: if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. if a hash other than SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertIDv2 MUST be used. Russ At 09:31 AM 4/5/2006, Denis Pinkas wrote: >Jim, > >After more thoughs and exchange of arguments I am inclined to accept >your position. > >I believe that the rule should be: >if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. > >So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default algorithm >for the new structure. > >In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of the algorithm. >It made me think that we should provide some additional guidance for >implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA is the signature algorithm, >then it would make sense, *not* to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the >new structure with SHA-256. > >Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm is more >complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in addition, recommend >to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? It would not hurt, but in case >SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? I leave the >floor open to cryptographers. > >Finally, I have a minor naming problem: what is it called ESSCertIDEx >and not ESSCertIDv2 ? What means "Ex" ?!? > >I would rather prefer ESSCertIDv2 which is more meaningful >without any explanation. > >Denis > > >Denis, > > > >I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, and I > >ignored it because it was not of immediate importance to me at the time. > > > >I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really backwards > >compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific manner > >then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider what the > >reality of things is. > > > >In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new OID, thus an > >old client would see that there is an attribute that it does not understand. > >This means that the new structure is really backwards compatable, if an old > >client gets a message from a new client the item is ignored and the old > >client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old client > >sends a message and includes this attribute the new client should still > >understand and process the extension correctly. (This would also be true > >with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) > > > >Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply replace > >ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client sends a message > >to the new client, it works since the new client can correctly decode it. > >If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST use the SHA-1 hash > >algorithm as any other would cause the old client to have a decode > >algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in advance > >that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use SHA-1 just in > >case. TO me this means that you might as well not change the protocol. > >(Side note - there is not versioning in the low level structures that I > >could see. If you update the version number then there is no problem with > >changing the structure itself. > > > >There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by Peter that > >having the same effective structure would allow for writing of a single > >decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. > > > >I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and onto SHA-2 in > >the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this then I need to take > >the position that either 1) size is not an issue or 2) the defaults should > >be the algorithms that we think should be used in the immediate future. I > >am a strong supporter of option 2. > > > >I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming revision of > >the document. > > > >jim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > >> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM > >> To: ietf-smime@imc.org > >> Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > >> > >> Jim, and the working group > >> > >> > >> 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a > >> proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure is different > >> from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. > >> > >> The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: > >> > >> ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash Hash, > >> hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier > >> DEFAULT {id-sha256}, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > >> } > >> > >> The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: > >> > >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > >> certHash OCTET STRING, > >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial, > >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } > >> > >> The advantage of the last proposal is backward compatibility > >> with the existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is > >> less "natural" than invented from scratch, but some > >> explanations can easily overcome this drawback. > >> > >> I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX mailing list. > >> > >> In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of this > >> section to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. > >> > >> 2 - Proposed rewritting: > >> > >> "5.4.1. Certificate Identification > >> > >> The best way to identify certificates is an often-discussed issue. > >> > >> When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData > >> object, that information is not part of the message digest > >> calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. > >> That information may only be used as an hint and by itself, does > >> not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being > >> accessed. > >> > >> A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to verify that > >> the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being > >> used when the > >> signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate > >> substitution attacks. > >> > >> Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing > >> Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the > >> advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. > >> > >> Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates > >> containing authorization information do not have an issuer/serial > >> number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an > >> attribute certificate or an additional public key > >> certificate is not > >> included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more > >> difficult to > >> get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the > >> certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be > >> identified > >> by the IssuerSerial object." > >> > >> 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: > >> SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx > >> > >> 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. > >> "requred". > >> There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", > >> "Indentification", ... > >> Please use a spell checker. > >> > >> Denis > >> > >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > >> Internet-Drafts directories. > >> >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security > >> Working Group of the IETF. > >> > > >> > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility > >> > Author(s) : J. Schaad > >> > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > Pages : 18 > >> > Date : 2006-3-24 > >> > > >> >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a > >> >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to > >> be used in > >> >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was > >> >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the > >> structure to have > >> >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with > >> the updating. > >> > > >> > > >> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > > >> >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > >> >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > >> the body of the message. > >> >You can also visit > >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > >> >to change your subscription settings. > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > >> >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After > >> >logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then > >> > "get draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". > >> > > >> >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > >> >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or > >> >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > >> > > >> > > >> >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > >> > > >> >Send a message to: > >> > mailserv@ietf.org. > >> >In the body type: > >> > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". > >> > > >> >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > >> > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > >> > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > >> > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > >> > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant > >> mail readers > >> > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > >> > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > >> > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > >> > how to manipulate these messages. > >> > > >> > > >> >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > >> >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > >> >Internet-Draft. > >> > > >> >Content-Type: text/plain > >> >Content-ID: <2006-3-24165058.I-D@ietf.org> > >> > > >> >ENCODING mime > >> >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > >> > >Denis Pinkas Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k35CUnNh018535; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:30:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k35CUnsE018534; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:30:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from odin2.bull.net (odin2.bull.net [129.184.85.11]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k35CUlNW018528 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 05:30:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from denis.pinkas@bull.net) Received: from MSGA-001.frcl.bull.fr (msga-mcl1.frcl.bull.fr [129.182.8.57]) by odin2.bull.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04780; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:30:16 +0200 Received: from frcls4013 ([129.182.108.120]) by MSGA-001.frcl.bull.fr (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.11) with SMTP id 2006040514304570:1481 ; Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:30:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:31:50 +0100 From: "Denis Pinkas" To: "ietf-smime@imc.org" , "Jim Schaad" Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [-fr-] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on MSGA-001/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 05/04/2006 14:30:45, Serialize by Router on MSGA-001/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 05/04/2006 14:30:47, Serialize complete at 05/04/2006 14:30:47 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Jim, After more thoughs and exchange of arguments I am inclined to accept your position. I believe that the rule should be: if SHA-1 is used, then ESSCertID MUST be used. So, it would make sense to have SHA-256 as the default algorithm for the new structure. In this thread, some people advocated implicit signaling of the algorithm. It made me think that we should provide some additional guidance for implementors. For example, if SHA-256 with RSA is the signature algorithm, then it would make sense, *not* to use ESSCerID :-) but rather to use the new structure with SHA-256. Now, the case where SHA-1 with RSA is the signature algorithm is more complicated. ESSCertID should be used. Should we, in addition, recommend to use the new structure with SHA-256 ? It would not hurt, but in case SHA-1 is broken, does it really provide additional security ? I leave the floor open to cryptographers. Finally, I have a minor naming problem: what is it called ESSCertIDEx and not ESSCertIDv2 ? What means "Ex" ?!? I would rather prefer ESSCertIDv2 which is more meaningful without any explanation. Denis >Denis, > >I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, and I >ignored it because it was not of immediate importance to me at the time. > >I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really backwards >compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific manner >then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider what the >reality of things is. > >In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new OID, thus an >old client would see that there is an attribute that it does not understand. >This means that the new structure is really backwards compatable, if an old >client gets a message from a new client the item is ignored and the old >client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old client >sends a message and includes this attribute the new client should still >understand and process the extension correctly. (This would also be true >with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) > >Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply replace >ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client sends a message >to the new client, it works since the new client can correctly decode it. >If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST use the SHA-1 hash >algorithm as any other would cause the old client to have a decode >algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in advance >that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use SHA-1 just in >case. TO me this means that you might as well not change the protocol. >(Side note - there is not versioning in the low level structures that I >could see. If you update the version number then there is no problem with >changing the structure itself. > >There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by Peter that >having the same effective structure would allow for writing of a single >decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. > >I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and onto SHA-2 in >the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this then I need to take >the position that either 1) size is not an issue or 2) the defaults should >be the algorithms that we think should be used in the immediate future. I >am a strong supporter of option 2. > >I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming revision of >the document. > >jim > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org >> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM >> To: ietf-smime@imc.org >> Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> >> >> Jim, and the working group >> >> >> 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a >> proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure is different >> from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. >> >> The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: >> >> ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash Hash, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL >> } >> >> The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: >> >> ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash Hash, >> hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier >> DEFAULT {id-sha256}, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL >> } >> >> The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: >> >> ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { >> certHash OCTET STRING, >> issuerSerial IssuerSerial, >> hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } >> >> The advantage of the last proposal is backward compatibility >> with the existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is >> less "natural" than invented from scratch, but some >> explanations can easily overcome this drawback. >> >> I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX mailing list. >> >> In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of this >> section to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. >> >> 2 - Proposed rewritting: >> >> "5.4.1. Certificate Identification >> >> The best way to identify certificates is an often-discussed issue. >> >> When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData >> object, that information is not part of the message digest >> calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. >> That information may only be used as an hint and by itself, does >> not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being >> accessed. >> >> A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to verify that >> the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being >> used when the >> signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate >> substitution attacks. >> >> Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing >> Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the >> advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. >> >> Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates >> containing authorization information do not have an issuer/serial >> number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an >> attribute certificate or an additional public key >> certificate is not >> included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more >> difficult to >> get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the >> certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be >> identified >> by the IssuerSerial object." >> >> 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: >> SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx >> >> 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. >> "requred". >> There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", >> "Indentification", ... >> Please use a spell checker. >> >> Denis >> >> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line >> Internet-Drafts directories. >> >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security >> Working Group of the IETF. >> > >> > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility >> > Author(s) : J. Schaad >> > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> > Pages : 18 >> > Date : 2006-3-24 >> > >> >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a >> >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to >> be used in >> >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was >> >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the >> structure to have >> >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with >> the updating. >> > >> > >> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> > >> >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to >> >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in >> the body of the message. >> >You can also visit >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce >> >to change your subscription settings. >> > >> > >> >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the >> >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After >> >logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then >> > "get draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". >> > >> >A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in >> >http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or >> >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> > >> > >> >Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. >> > >> >Send a message to: >> > mailserv@ietf.org. >> >In the body type: >> > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt". >> > >> >NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in >> > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this >> > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" >> > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or >> > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant >> mail readers >> > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with >> > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split >> > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on >> > how to manipulate these messages. >> > >> > >> >Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader >> >implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the >> >Internet-Draft. >> > >> >Content-Type: text/plain >> >Content-ID: <2006-3-24165058.I-D@ietf.org> >> > >> >ENCODING mime >> >FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt >> Denis Pinkas Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k353gKqF096772; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k353gKr8096771; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.173]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k353gJUs096764 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ietf@augustcellars.com) Received: from romans (pool-71-111-77-220.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.111.77.220]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B5B475C; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Denis Pinkas'" , Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:47:09 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c65863$9e361970$0304a8c0@augustcellars.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 thread-index: AcZUA64mng1wqjpWRsi8hEhy1pyq+QEXWX0g Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Denis, I am well aware that the issue was debated on the PKIX mailing list, and I ignored it because it was not of immediate importance to me at the time. I am not sure that I agree that the PKIX proposal is really backwards compatable. What can be said is that if you use it in a specific manner then it produces the same bits on the wire, however consider what the reality of things is. In the S/MIME world the new structure is identified by a new OID, thus an old client would see that there is an attribute that it does not understand. This means that the new structure is really backwards compatable, if an old client gets a message from a new client the item is ignored and the old client can successfully process the message. Likewise if an old client sends a message and includes this attribute the new client should still understand and process the extension correctly. (This would also be true with the timestamp protocol in RFC 3161.) Now lets look at what happens with this in RFC 3029 if you simply replace ESSCertID with your proposed ESSCertIDEx. If an old client sends a message to the new client, it works since the new client can correctly decode it. If a new client sends a message to an old client, it MUST use the SHA-1 hash algorithm as any other would cause the old client to have a decode algorithm. But it is not clear that the new client can recognize in advance that it is dealing with an old client so it would ALWAYS use SHA-1 just in case. TO me this means that you might as well not change the protocol. (Side note - there is not versioning in the low level structures that I could see. If you update the version number then there is no problem with changing the structure itself. There is some logic to the argument that was put forward by Peter that having the same effective structure would allow for writing of a single decode/encode routine and thus potentially save code space. I personally think that we should be moving out of SHA-1 and onto SHA-2 in the standards as quickly as possible. If I belive this then I need to take the position that either 1) size is not an issue or 2) the defaults should be the algorithms that we think should be used in the immediate future. I am a strong supporter of option 2. I will look at your suggested re-write as part of the up-coming revision of the document. jim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org > [mailto:owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Denis Pinkas > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:59 AM > To: ietf-smime@imc.org > Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > > Jim, and the working group > > > 1 - This topic has been debated on the PKIX mailing list and a > proposal has been made. The proposed ASN.1 structure is different > from the one described in draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt. > > The current ASN.1 in RFC 2634 is: > > ESSCertID ::= SEQUENCE { > certHash Hash, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } > > The proposal from draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt is: > > ESSCertIDEx ::= SEQUENCE { > certHash Hash, > hashAlg AlgorithmIdentifier > DEFAULT {id-sha256}, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } > > The proposal made on the PKIX mailing list is: > > ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > certHash OCTET STRING, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial, > hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { sha-1 } > > The advantage of the last proposal is backward compatibility > with the existing structure. The disadvantage is that it is > less "natural" than invented from scratch, but some > explanations can easily overcome this drawback. > > I would propose to adopt the proposal made on the PKIX mailing list. > > In addition, I would take advantage of the rewriting of this > section to correct some past "errors" in section 5.4.1. > > 2 - Proposed rewritting: > > "5.4.1. Certificate Identification > > The best way to identify certificates is an often-discussed issue. > > When an issuer/serial number pair is included in the SignedData > object, that information is not part of the message digest > calculation process may thus be changed without being detected. > That information may only be used as an hint and by itself, does > not allow to make sure that the right certificate is being > accessed. > > A hash of the entire certificate allows a verifier to verify that > the certificate that was chosen by the signer is being > used when the > signature is verified. It permits a detection of certificate > substitution attacks. > > Duplication of the issuer/serial number pair within the Signing > Certificate attribute is not fully necessary, but has the > advantage to get the whole information from that attribute. > > Attribute certificates and additional public key certificates > containing authorization information do not have an issuer/serial > number pair represented anywhere in a SignerInfo object. When an > attribute certificate or an additional public key > certificate is not > included in the SignedData object, it becomes much more > difficult to > get the correct set of certificates based only on a hash of the > certificate. For this reason, these certificates SHOULD be > identified > by the IssuerSerial object." > > 3 - It is a matter of taste, but I would rather prefer: > SigningCertificatev2 instead of SigningCertificateEx > > 4 - It would be nice to correct the typos from RFC 2634, e.g. > "requred". > There are other typos like: "certficates", "subsiquent", > "Indentification", ... > Please use a spell checker. > > Denis > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > >This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security > Working Group of the IETF. > > > > Title : ESS Update: Adding CertID Algorithm Agility > > Author(s) : J. Schaad > > Filename : draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > Pages : 18 > > Date : 2006-3-24 > > > >In the original Enhanged Security Services for S/MIME draft, a > >structure for cryptographically linking the certificate to > be used in > >validation with the signature was introduced, this structure was > >hardwired to use SHA-1. This document allows for the > structure to have > >algorithm agility and defines new attributes to deal with > the updating. > > > > > >A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt > > > >To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > >i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > the body of the message. > >You can also visit > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > >to change your subscription settings. > > > > > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > >username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Oh, I was just quoting Peter Sylvester's ASN.1, since he's using current ASN.1 which can't be used in IETF RFCs anyway, it shouldn't be an issue, the parameter info will just disappear once it's back-translated in the obsolete 1988 form. Peter. Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k33IqGJK070361; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k33IqGNv070360; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp-out.sendmail.com (smtp-out.sendmail.com [209.246.26.45]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k33IqGwa070354 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from blake@sendmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (gtec136-m.isomedia.com [207.115.67.136] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by foon.sendmail.com (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id k33IqAMT024470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:11 -0700 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v0.2.1 foon.sendmail.com k33IqAMT024470 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nowsp/nowsp; d=sendmail.com; s=tls.dkim; t=1144090332; h=X-DomainKeys:DomainKey-Signature:In-Reply-To: References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=oeZu9TcL kGATNLbLsK+CAR5kLDiW752XBBVcJyHfD9yb0+1inEp+qYuX+E+wesevuwcIt5vHL5m Hp8yh6kQHsttr7xj6x2myky4ZRJIG9V4jX/p0DX0n0FWcX5J9Hvc6uC2z3XEfoydh/F mVNKR0HZ5qDpGO7QVJHKLTPENq9Ks= X-DomainKeys: Sendmail DomainKeys Filter v0.3.2 foon.sendmail.com k33IqAMT024470 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=tls; d=sendmail.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc: content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tSVh8aasKyI9CKOiap2UvQPbXtt95ZHyfv23WNMOCNC8pVx7Fh0+DSG0QUrgi6Fkw whaDYXgvQDvnDeM49wRNhRYSJQVo/pB+3JxwvfVASgEJeTM5xp2I5NKiBb42S/JgwAn tQmDy0lBGNPmTgm5BI8IuY1Fao9yYYLhHhiS6UQ= In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> References: <442C0C12.1080609@edelweb.fr> <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3253ADE3-8BD0-4C60-A9C8-3F1080A4F1DA@sendmail.com> Cc: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz, ietf-smime@imc.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Blake Ramsdell Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:52:09 -0700 To: Russ Housley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.3) Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: On Apr 3, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Russ Housley wrote: > I do not see a way to use this syntax and say that the parameters > are absent. I prefer absent to NULL. Now we get back into the "Great Algorithm Identifier Parameters Debate of 1997" where we discuss the merits of NULL vs. absent for algorithm identifiers. Early implementations looking for SHA-1 as an AlgorithmIdentifier expected NULL as parameters also. So despite the personal preference (which I think influenced some of this discussion in CMS and MSG), the old school practice with AlgorithmIdentifiers was "NULL for parameters". Blake -- Blake Ramsdell | Sendmail, Inc. | http://www.sendmail.com Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k33FUXpX059815; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:30:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k33FUX1J059814; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:30:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from woodstock.binhost.com (woodstock.binhost.com [144.202.243.4]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k33FUWPI059792 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:30:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from housley@vigilsec.com) Received: (qmail 24825 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2006 15:30:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Russ-Laptop.vigilsec.com) (71.246.201.221) by woodstock.binhost.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2006 15:30:21 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.0.16.2.20060403112912.0593d9d0@vigilsec.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.0.16 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:30:23 -0400 To: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz From: Russ Housley Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt Cc: ietf-smime@imc.org In-Reply-To: References: <442C0C12.1080609@edelweb.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Peter: I do not see a way to use this syntax and say that the parameters are absent. I prefer absent to NULL. Russ At 09:35 PM 3/30/2006, Peter Gutmann wrote: >ESSCertIDv2 ::= SEQUENCE { > hashAlgorithm AlgorithmIdentifier DEFAULT { { algorithm > sha-1, parameters NULL} } > certHash Hash, > issuerSerial IssuerSerial OPTIONAL > } Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k32G6g9q092545; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:06:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id k32G6gpG092544; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:06:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from edelweb.fr (edelweb.fr [212.234.46.16]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k32G6XEK092529 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:06:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from Peter.Sylvester@edelweb.fr) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edelweb.fr (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id k32G6Wi18070; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:06:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: from champagne.edelweb.fr (champagne.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.161]) by edelweb.fr (nospam/2.4); Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:06:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [193.51.14.5] (emeriau.edelweb.fr [193.51.14.5]) by champagne.edelweb.fr (8.7.6/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA22582; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:06:24 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <442FF624.70008@edelweb.fr> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 18:04:52 +0200 From: Peter Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Gutmann CC: lists@drh-consultancy.demon.co.uk, denis.pinkas@bull.net, ietf-smime@imc.org Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-escertid-00.txt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010300050209030204060904" Sender: owner-ietf-smime@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010300050209030204060904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My comment was related to the syntax. Another option would be not to use a fixed default but rather make the hashAlgoritm OPTIONAL and say that it is the same as used in to create the signature around (or SHA1 if the hash length is less than 224 bits) If one still use the same attribute: the implementations that understand sha256- in a signature and use ESSCertID would be hit. But as P.G. said, if one uses another attribute... 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