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From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Mon Mar 13 09:41:57 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA29475 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id JAA04122 for snmpconf-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:22:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38CCF932.BF31C27C@cabletron.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:20:34 -0500 From: David Harrington Organization: Enterasys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: snmpconf@snmp.com Subject: snmpconf Re: configdt Agenda for the IETF References: <200003121701.MAA13503@chmls05.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OPS Area Snmpconf WG Proposed Agenda for Adelaide Review Material --------------- Background Material Charter Draft-ops-mumble-conf-management-03.txt draft-ietf-rap-pr-03.txt Internet Drafts: New Working Papers for Discussion draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt draft-ietf-snmpconf-caps-mib-00.txt draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffservpolicy-mib-00.txt The first two rows are reserved for persons who have read the documents. Agenda for Tuesday back-to-back meetings 3/28 1545-1645 and 1700-1800 (no break planned in our agenda) ---------------------------------------- 1) Agenda Bashing (10 mins) 2) WG Focus and Organization (20 mins) Review of Charter Deadlines ­ when Interim Meeting Plans Dates Host Location Introduction of Editor teams Assignment Qualifications 3) The three-document approach - Jon Saperia (15 minutes) Background why 3 documents Functional requirements of the documents Overall summary 4) Design Team Overview (30 mins) Task Lists Document Concepts Document Outlines 5) Alternate Presentations (30 mins) 6) Q&A/wrap-up (15 mins) Agenda for Thursday Meeting 3/30 0900-1130 ------ 7) Discussion of the Working Drafts Very Quick Introduction and Recap of Tuesday Meeting (15 min) Capacity and Capabilities MIB ­ Steve Waldbusser (20 minutes) Discussion (20 min) DiffServPolicy MIB ­ Dave Partain (20 minutes) Discussion (20 min) Best Current Practices ­ Mike MacFaden (20 minutes) Discussion (20 min) Action Item Review (15 min) From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Mon Mar 13 10:34:54 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20149 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id KAA06564 for snmpconf-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:17:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000313101229.00a3a100@omniplex.mcquillan.com> X-Sender: joel@omniplex.mcquillan.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:16:08 -0500 To: snmpconf@snmp.com From: "Joel M. Halpern" Subject: Re: snmpconf Re: configdt Agenda for the IETF In-Reply-To: <38CCF932.BF31C27C@cabletron.com> References: <200003121701.MAA13503@chmls05.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by seymour39.SNMP.COM id KAA06559 Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am having a bit of trouble finding the documents. the draft-ops-mumble-conf-management I can find is at revision 00. Are we about to jump to rev 3 when the ID editors stack clears? Similarly, the draft-ietf-rap-pr I can find is at rev 01. If there were a 1 increment in the version I would not have been prompted to ask about these two. Are all the draft-ietf-snmpconf documents in the queue as well? I have been trying to keep up with the documents, rather than trying to read them all at the last minute. I am sorry if this is all just the usual time crunch at the deadline. Yours, Joel M. Halpern At 09:20 AM 3/13/00 -0500, you wrote: >OPS Area >Snmpconf WG Proposed Agenda for Adelaide > >Review Material >--------------- >Background Material > Charter > Draft-ops-mumble-conf-management-03.txt > draft-ietf-rap-pr-03.txt > >Internet Drafts: New Working Papers for Discussion > draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt > draft-ietf-snmpconf-caps-mib-00.txt > draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffservpolicy-mib-00.txt > >The first two rows are reserved for persons who have read the documents. > >Agenda for Tuesday back-to-back meetings >3/28 1545-1645 and 1700-1800 (no break planned in our agenda) >---------------------------------------- > >1) Agenda Bashing (10 mins) >2) WG Focus and Organization (20 mins) > Review of Charter > Deadlines ­ when > Interim Meeting Plans > Dates > Host > Location > Introduction of Editor teams > Assignment > Qualifications >3) The three-document approach - Jon Saperia (15 minutes) > Background > why 3 documents > Functional requirements of the documents > Overall summary >4) Design Team Overview (30 mins) > Task Lists > Document Concepts > Document Outlines >5) Alternate Presentations (30 mins) >6) Q&A/wrap-up (15 mins) > >Agenda for Thursday Meeting >3/30 0900-1130 >------ >7) Discussion of the Working Drafts > Very Quick Introduction and Recap of Tuesday Meeting (15 min) > Capacity and Capabilities MIB ­ Steve Waldbusser (20 minutes) > Discussion (20 min) > DiffServPolicy MIB ­ Dave Partain (20 minutes) > Discussion (20 min) > Best Current Practices ­ Mike MacFaden (20 minutes) > Discussion (20 min) > Action Item Review (15 min) From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Mon Mar 13 11:20:45 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA08561 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id LAA07815 for snmpconf-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:04:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003131603.LAA27524@chmls05.mediaone.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:05:28 -0500 Subject: Re: snmpconf Re: configdt Agenda for the IETF From: "Jon Saperia" To: snmpconf@snmp.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am having a bit of trouble finding the documents. > the draft-ops-mumble-conf-management I can find is at revision 00. Are we > about to jump to rev 3 when the ID editors stack clears? > Similarly, the draft-ietf-rap-pr I can find is at rev 01. > If there were a 1 increment in the version I would not have been prompted > to ask about these two. > > Are all the draft-ietf-snmpconf documents in the queue as well? > > I have been trying to keep up with the documents, rather than trying to > read them all at the last minute. I am sorry if this is all just the usual > time crunch at the deadline. > > Yours, > Joel M. Halpern Joel, All 3 of the snmpconf documents were submitted as .00 versions last Friday. I know that at least one of them made it in time and is just in the queue. That is probably also the case for the other two documents. With regard to the draft-ops-mumble-conf-management, Luis was working on that revision the last I knew, but I have not seen anything for a while. /jon From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Mon Mar 13 12:24:36 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA03940 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id MAA09749 for snmpconf-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:06:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38CD1F92.D854EF53@cabletron.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:04:18 -0500 From: David Harrington Organization: Enterasys X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: agenda@ietf.org CC: "snmpconf@snmp.com" Subject: snmpconf WG Agenda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, there was some confusion about documents mentioned as background to the snmpconf WG meeting. Can you please post this updated agenda? Thanks, Dave Harrington, co-chair snmpconf WG OPS Area Snmpconf WG Proposed Agenda for Adelaide Review Material --------------- Background Material Charter Draft-ops-mumble-conf-management-.txt draft-ietf-rap-pr-.txt Internet Drafts: New Working Papers for Discussion draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt draft-ietf-snmpconf-caps-mib-00.txt draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffservpolicy-mib-00.txt The first two rows are reserved for persons who have read the documents. Agenda for Tuesday back-to-back meetings 3/28 1545-1645 and 1700-1800 (no break planned in our agenda) ---------------------------------------- 1) Agenda Bashing (10 mins) 2) WG Focus and Organization (20 mins) Review of Charter Deadlines ­ when Interim Meeting Plans Dates Host Location Introduction of Editor teams Assignment Qualifications 3) The three-document approach - Jon Saperia (15 minutes) Background why 3 documents Functional requirements of the documents Overall summary 4) Design Team Overview (30 mins) Task Lists Document Concepts Document Outlines 5) Alternate Presentations (30 mins) 6) Q&A/wrap-up (15 mins) Agenda for Thursday Meeting 3/30 0900-1130 ------ 7) Discussion of the Working Drafts Very Quick Introduction and Recap of Tuesday Meeting (15 min) Capacity and Capabilities MIB ­ Steve Waldbusser (20 minutes) Discussion (20 min) DiffServPolicy MIB ­ Dave Partain (20 minutes) Discussion (20 min) Best Current Practices ­ Mike MacFaden (20 minutes) Discussion (20 min) Action Item Review (15 min) From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Tue Mar 14 09:53:14 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA12777 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id JAA15813 for snmpconf-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:29:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003141429.JAA28100@aix43.snmp.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 to: snmpconf@snmp.com Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:29:23 -0500 From: Steve Moulton Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The problem that caused this announcement to bounce has been fixed. ------- Forwarded Message Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) with ESMTP id GAA11414 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA18234; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:16:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003141116.GAA18234@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: snmpconf@snmp.com From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-to: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 06:16:43 -0500 Sender: nsyracus@cnri.reston.va.us --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Configuration Management with SNMP Working Group of the IETF. Title : The DiffServ Policy MIB Author(s) : D. Partain Filename : draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 13-Mar-00 The MIB Module described in this document provides a conceptual layer between high-level 'network-wide' policy definitions that affect configuration of the differentiated services (DiffServ) subsystem and the instance-specific information that would include such details as the parameters for all the queues associated with each interface in a system. This essentially provides an interface for configuring DiffServ at a conceptually higher layer than that of the DiffServ MIB [1]. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000313135230.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-snmpconf-diffpolicy-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000313135230.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Fri Mar 17 09:13:04 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA12049 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id IAA17783 for snmpconf-outgoing; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:20:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003171319.IAA20839@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: snmpconf@snmp.com From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:19:54 -0500 Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Configuration Management with SNMP Working Group of the IETF. Title : CONFIGURING NETWORKS AND DEVICES WITH SNMP Author(s) : M. MacFaden, M. MacFaden Filename : draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 16-Mar-00 Configuration (provisioning) of network elements is hard in all but the most trivial of networks. This document describes first hand experience with provisioning of data networks over It then enumerates key tenets in configuration in in order to: 1) set expectations for users 2) guide implementors torward better use of the SNMP framework for configuration of data networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000316143739.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-snmpconf-bcp-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000316143739.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- From owner-snmpconf@seymour39.SNMP.COM Fri Mar 17 09:37:40 2000 Received: from seymour39.SNMP.COM (seymour39.snmp.com [192.147.142.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA20551 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by seymour39.SNMP.COM (8.9.3/m.000221) id IAA17790 for snmpconf-outgoing; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:20:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200003171320.IAA20898@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; Cc: snmpconf@snmp.com From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 08:20:00 -0500 Sender: owner-snmpconf@snmp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snmpconf@snmp.com --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Configuration Management with SNMP Working Group of the IETF. Title : Policy Based Management MIB Author(s) : S. Waldbusser, J. Saperia, T. Hongal Filename : draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt Pages : 14 Date : 16-Mar-00 This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP- based internets. In particular, this MIB defines objects that enable policy-based configuration management of SNMP infrastructures. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000316143753.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <20000316143753.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart--