From nobody Mon Apr 4 07:48:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: softwires@ietf.org Delivered-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3928D12D72D; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 07:48:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.18.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160404144804.15658.56943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 07:48:04 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: softwires@ietf.org Subject: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-12.txt X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 14:48:04 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Softwires of the IETF. Title : Softwire Mesh Multicast Authors : Mingwei Xu Yong Cui Jianping Wu Shu Yang Chris Metz Greg Shepherd Filename : draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-12.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2016-04-04 Abstract: The Internet needs to support IPv4 and IPv6 packets. Both address families and their related protocol suites support multicast of the single-source and any-source varieties. During IPv6 transition, there will be scenarios where a backbone network running one IP address family internally (referred to as internal IP or I-IP) will provide transit services to attached client networks running another IP address family (referred to as external IP or E-IP). It is expected that the I-IP backbone will offer unicast and multicast transit services to the client E-IP networks. Softwire Mesh is a solution to E-IP unicast and multicast support across an I-IP backbone. This document describes the mechanism for supporting Internet-style multicast across a set of E-IP and I-IP networks supporting softwire mesh. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-12 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Apr 6 11:32:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D5412D158; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:32:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=swm.pp.se Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dpHf3DgWEdZh; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (ipv6.swm.pp.se [IPv6:2a00:801::f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D94812D129; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id A97F8A2; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:32:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1459967528; bh=poiWaMOTJgt2LT3VRCilN29UVyD/ztozOb0E5gb0MDA=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ZR39Zfw8snUWnFa6njQxNuR44hMnmwHyv+8wTzumz4rM/DJFP8WjaQTXjfcWrdeu0 f7ITeT4pUsJ8VOqkzJJj8hGKnTjuR18wUwT3toNV5hWVudpilIhwYJWypwMo5ERKr5 RqnS9+zCElU0uShxAeUFbvTvOXQZmattK+8ardaw= Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B4AA1; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:32:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 20:32:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Yong Cui In-Reply-To: <303647F4-AC89-485A-A13A-E34D91593206@tsinghua.edu.cn> Message-ID: References: <303647F4-AC89-485A-A13A-E34D91593206@tsinghua.edu.cn> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Cc: Softwires WG , "softwire-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Softwires] WGLC on draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-03 X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:32:12 -0000 On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Yong Cui wrote: > Hi folks, > > The authors of draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-03 believe this document is ready for advancement. > We would like to issue a working group last call starting from today to April 5th. > > Please send your substantial comments to the list during the last call. 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Can I ask for volunteers who are willing to provide = reviews? 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charset=us-ascii Here are my comments from a quick glance. Apologies for being late. Thanks for simplifying this document. A much easier and less contentious read now. I think it needs a little bit more detail and explanation before = advancing though. The document is lacking some detail. It mentions "DHCPv6 Offer", which = in 3315 terminology I'm not sure what is. In a 4-way DHCPv6 exchange, would the expectation be something like: -> SOLICIT: ORO includes MAP-E, LW46, and DS-lite and Priority option = request. <- ADVERTISE : includes priority option, with MAP-E, DS-lite and LW46 = data objects (server might have reserved address at this point) -> REQUEST: client only request the mechanism at the top of the list <- REPLY: server assigns the addresses to client, and can free up = resources reserved for the other mechanisms. If I was an operator that had a fixed allocation of address = 1.1.1.1:1000-2000 to a given customer. Would I then put the same IPv4 = address for each of the mechanisms in the ADVERTISE? Do you need to say anything about how to deal with clients that do not = support the priority option? Cheers, Ole > On 22 Mar 2016, at 07:55, Yong Cui wrote: >=20 > Hi folks, >=20 > The authors of draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-03 believe this = document is ready for advancement. > We would like to issue a working group last call starting from today = to April 5th. >=20 > Please send your substantial comments to the list during the last = call. 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softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:58:58 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7600, "IPv4 Residual Deployment via IPv6 - A Stateless Solution (4rd)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7600&eid=4661 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Masao Uebayashi Section: 3 Original Text ------------- BR(s) and/or N4T64+ Corrected Text -------------- BR(s) and/or NAT64+ Notes ----- A minor typo in Figure 1 (s/N4T64+/NAT64+/). 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charset=utf-8 Hi, Here is my review of the draft. Best regards, Ian Pg 5 - states a 'dual-stack' router. The AFBR is not really dual-stack = here. It has two single stack interfaces and implements a transition = technology. Suggest removal of dual-stack. Section 4.1 The translation between the IPv4 and IPv6 PIM messages seems = underspecified. It would be useful to provide some examples showing how = the new addresses are used in the different translations into the PIM = message formats (RFC7741 Section 4.1). Section 4.2 The term =E2=80=98MPREFIX64=E2=80=99 is not defined in RFC7371. As there = are a number of different formats for multicast prefixes in RFC7371, it = would be useful to point to the relevant section to avoid confusion. Why was the name MPREFIX64 chosen for 4in6 multicast? In other Softwire = docs (e.g. RFC7598), =E2=80=9946=E2=80=99 is used to denote 4 in 6 = functions and 64 for 6 in 4. As the addressing and mechanism for 4in6 = differs for 6in4, it would make sense to differentiate this in the = naming of the fields (i.e. use MPREFIX46, uPrefix46 for 4in6 and = uPrefix64 for 6in4). Section 6.3 Section 6 overall defines requirements for the control plane. Sections = 6.1. and 6.2 are MUST requirements. 6.3 uses =E2=80=98should=E2=80=99 in = defining the behaviour. Can the mechanism work without implementing sec = 6.3 and in which situations is it acceptable not to? Section 6.5 This introduces the encapsulation of messages, but doesn=E2=80=99t = provide any information about what type of encapsulation is used. Figure = 7 shows UDP. Is this part of the encapsulation? As this is necessary for = the mechanism to work and needs to be implemented on the AFBRs, there = needs to be references and requirements language on what needs to be = implemented. s/we do insure/it is ensured/ Section 7.2 Are there options on the kind of tunnel encapsulation that can be used? = It would be useful to enumerate some of these and for interoperability = one of them needs to be mandatory to implement. References RFC2119 Needs to have a normative reference RFC4601 has been obsoleted by RFC7761 General -=20 The document doesn=E2=80=99t contain the =E2=80=98Conventions/Requirements= Language=E2=80=99 boilerplate pointing to RFC2119 that needs to be in a = standards track document. (The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT=E2=80=9D, = =E2=80=A6) The use of RFC2119 language and the case of the words throughout the = document is not consistent (there are a number of lower case =E2=80=98must= =E2=80=99 etc, that probably should be uppercase). The term =E2=80=98should=E2=80=99 (lower case) is used in a number of = places that make the functionality of the mechanism seem uncertain (e.g. = Figure 1 - 'Multicast packets should get across the I-IP transit core'. = Sec 4.1 'it should be translated back=E2=80=99). There are some points that would seem to need MUST requirements that are = missing - e.g. Section 4.4 'every uPrefix64 that AFBR announces should = be different either, and uniquely identifies each AFBR=E2=80=99. If two = AFBRs are announcing the same uPrefix64, surely there will be problems. Suggest that the use of RFC2119 language is revised throughout the = document to avoid these problems and to tighten up the specification as = a whole. The document needs the language and grammar checking throughout. > On 7 Apr 2016, at 16:58, Ian Farrer wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > This document has been around for some time, but has not received any = substantive reviews. Can I ask for volunteers who are willing to provide = reviews? >=20 > Thanks, > Ian >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires --Apple-Mail=_9C943D1B-16A7-4898-A5BC-6F859B007761 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi,

Here is my review of the = draft.

Best = regards,
Ian

Pg 5 - states a = 'dual-stack' router. The AFBR is not really dual-stack here. It has two = single stack interfaces and implements a transition technology. Suggest = removal of dual-stack.

Section 4.1
The translation between the = IPv4 and IPv6 PIM messages seems underspecified. It would be useful to = provide some examples showing how the new addresses are used in the = different translations into the PIM message formats (RFC7741 Section = 4.1).

Section = 4.2
The term =E2=80=98MPREFIX64=E2=80=99 is not = defined in RFC7371. As there are a number of different formats for = multicast prefixes in RFC7371, it would be useful to point to the = relevant section to avoid confusion.

Why was the name MPREFIX64 chosen for = 4in6 multicast? In other Softwire docs (e.g. RFC7598), =E2=80=9946=E2=80=99= is used to denote 4 in 6 functions and 64 for 6 in 4. As the addressing = and mechanism for 4in6 differs for 6in4, it would make sense to = differentiate this in the naming of the fields (i.e. use MPREFIX46, = uPrefix46 for 4in6 and uPrefix64 for 6in4).

Section 6.3
Section = 6 overall defines requirements for the control plane. Sections 6.1. and = 6.2 are MUST requirements. 6.3 uses =E2=80=98should=E2=80=99 in defining = the behaviour. Can the mechanism work without implementing sec 6.3 and = in which situations is it acceptable not to?

Section 6.5
This = introduces the encapsulation of messages, but doesn=E2=80=99t provide = any information about what type of encapsulation is used. Figure 7 shows = UDP. Is this part of the encapsulation? As this is necessary for the = mechanism to work and needs to be implemented on the AFBRs, there needs = to be references and requirements language on what needs to be = implemented.

s/we do insure/it is ensured/

Section 7.2
Are = there options on the kind of tunnel encapsulation that can be used? It = would be useful to enumerate some of these and for interoperability one = of them needs to be mandatory to implement.

References
RFC2119 Needs to have a normative reference
RFC4601 has been obsoleted by RFC7761

General = - 
The document doesn=E2=80=99t contain the = =E2=80=98Conventions/Requirements Language=E2=80=99 boilerplate pointing = to RFC2119 that needs to be in a standards track document. (The key words "MUST", "MUST = NOT=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=A6)

The use of RFC2119 language and the case of the words = throughout the document is not consistent (there are a number of lower = case =E2=80=98must=E2=80=99 etc, that probably should be = uppercase).

The = term =E2=80=98should=E2=80=99 (lower case) is used in a number of places = that make the functionality of the mechanism seem uncertain (e.g. Figure = 1 - 'Multicast packets = should get across the I-IP transit core'. Sec 4.1 'it should be = translated back=E2=80=99).

There are some points that would seem to need MUST = requirements that are missing - e.g. Section 4.4 'every uPrefix64 that AFBR = announces should be different either, and uniquely identifies each = AFBR=E2=80=99. If two AFBRs are announcing the same uPrefix64, surely = there will be problems.

Suggest that the use of RFC2119 language is = revised throughout the document to avoid these problems and to tighten = up the specification as a whole.

The document needs the language and = grammar checking throughout.


On 7 Apr 2016, at 16:58, Ian Farrer <ianfarrer@gmx.com> = wrote:

Hi,
This document has been around for some time, = but has not received any substantive reviews. Can I ask for volunteers = who are willing to provide reviews?

Thanks,
Ian


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= --Apple-Mail=_9C943D1B-16A7-4898-A5BC-6F859B007761-- From nobody Tue Apr 19 13:25:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C633A12DF4F; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:25:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Uaj74EaaAyOz; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD08612DEB5; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.125.2] ([46.189.67.121]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6RiN-1bgrc429eN-00yRyg; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:25:27 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Ian Farrer In-Reply-To: <2D252834-F869-462F-AF43-35F1E90B347D@employees.org> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:25:25 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <00231DD3-A8B1-4688-8601-9CFFBA6830DD@gmx.com> References: <303647F4-AC89-485A-A13A-E34D91593206@tsinghua.edu.cn> <2D252834-F869-462F-AF43-35F1E90B347D@employees.org> To: otroan@employees.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hXbFJ7EeXPZKJnc2f7r/XRHu606Isb44Q2pALs2nzJ/7Sf4SUA1 R0KDNVawLc6Kp6yTwXY19rYyxAbdIh9MB8MEXaA958aJTGB5SUgbKMZnG3+SKr/pIeqohHa Ej64rvI5pG0l52wUCZREFk+d+OCqEY+FnSapBfaRwkKnKOH/1QMww4B+6NiORUpPKJ7G2sJ wLA7MFpOFA2ccbLRN8Zfw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+S10dQQOFAM=:96mlidYGTMRug0np7GYbBg mI6cLiGY4XCF3VIIpTp1qeIvLejr6XPdKOViq1UQxXXELvC3q67a6zbDyjsZoXt8v1OeA2NhV RwBwINukuoGeCTHfVe9iVXnmRwspPXZgFrWrljDP0MyWeXDBxEQpg30FC2tXUV3EBZpxppywW Wm4vmt/AXdLxbHZNwJvwmtkJZp+s26dCEs5eyn7tbnEJYiNYpM385G8x/NLMgmD1kH+jekIvX +cgZXNe/ZiF5pkj3PqhDJtYwj6ZkZWV7D6SkGq7F1V9TuL6/xhrpDlBJ5WFRSS8FgAYpQ/HVQ xYMmDMcibO7WaxzdFHOBdkwJGURVgthkH1PfhYSIR09zPXkrBT5N+8cBshuSPNSE29utQDpvY 1uB1lRenUr1CZHa1h43yA/kmAlWPcV7t3Az2KCXMX2NoXf20MgU5LhKAYXi9twkynirngcEE9 EFOdhUmSxNEdg/Nq0nCvQD3zuzXwr4Z8+W7VGql0VG0WnbikCIuo8HmCv6Nh+9QmemH/XwoPy 2e6OvwOlkogGyvtIpwpam21n1urs/JZ/7ZcyYv02xAMc6qUbOlD8DVDi0wDgkXwRpIXHHV7qj pGDTRASkQrB4ciK0bFK/wjA6ea1guciBykaq0/s5hiunLIL4GTU6Rs7cimolSSczBqaOR0OwF oSNhuC//zk+obVMw+BdhhWq9Sqz2mY3sZcR8Ce0O05kbL1ljmTAxpy3/AyVQn2ocLL52Izvq4 C0lOhREY8mju8MHXvBbhiqR429HpP9NZs7X5bxjhixTKhKDniv0wtpxmUFvYX2Mwr5JJzhfdL Erlnb4I Archived-At: Cc: Softwires WG , "softwire-chairs@ietf.org" , Yong Cui Subject: Re: [Softwires] WGLC on draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-03 X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 20:25:45 -0000 Hi Ole, Thanks for the comments. Please see inline. Cheers, Ian > On 15 Apr 2016, at 10:41, otroan@employees.org wrote: >=20 > Here are my comments from a quick glance. Apologies for being late. >=20 > Thanks for simplifying this document. > A much easier and less contentious read now. >=20 > I think it needs a little bit more detail and explanation before = advancing though. >=20 > The document is lacking some detail. It mentions "DHCPv6 Offer", which = in 3315 terminology I'm not sure what is. > In a 4-way DHCPv6 exchange, would the expectation be something like: >=20 > -> SOLICIT: ORO includes MAP-E, LW46, and DS-lite and Priority option = request. > <- ADVERTISE : includes priority option, with MAP-E, DS-lite and LW46 = data objects (server might have reserved address at this point) > -> REQUEST: client only request the mechanism at the top of the list > <- REPLY: server assigns the addresses to client, and can free up = resources reserved for the other mechanisms. [if - Good catch on the =E2=80=98offer=E2=80=99. Will update. For the proposed message flow and corresponding server side actions, = there is no dynamic on demand assignment of DHCP managed resources being = made for any of these mechanisms, with the exception of DHCPv4oDHCPv6 = provisioning. DS-lite only dynamically allocates any resources used for = CGN44 at the AFTR when a client 4in6 outgoing request is made. MAP & = lw4o6 using RFC7598 both require the DHCP server to be pre-configured = and there is no pool based allocation that resources are taken from or = returned to. DHCPv4oDHCPv6 can make dynamic pool allocations, but unless the client = implemented this and used it for its provisioning, then a lease would = never be made.] >=20 > If I was an operator that had a fixed allocation of address = 1.1.1.1:1000-2000 to a given customer. Would I then put the same IPv4 = address for each of the mechanisms in the ADVERTISE? [if - That=E2=80=99s really a deployment choice. Certainly, there=E2=80=99= s no reason why the provisioning mechanism couldn=E2=80=99t supply = either the same or different addressing allocations to the client, but = from a BR functionality and routing perspective it=E2=80=99s unlikely = that you would be able to do this - the BR would have to be running at = least two BR mechanisms in parallel and have a way of identifying which = particular mechanism a client was using. Could be hard for ingress = traffic on a MAP-E/T BR for example. We can add some text discussing this point.] >=20 > Do you need to say anything about how to deal with clients that do not = support the priority option? [if - This would require server side logic to evaluate the softwire = option codes in the ORO supplied by the client and provision a single = mechanism based on server side policy. However, as one of the main = points of writing this draft in the first place is to avoid having to do = this (for complexity and scalability reasons), I would suggest that the = text could describe this with the drawbacks and without adding any = requirements to implement this functionality.] >=20 > Cheers, > Ole >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 22 Mar 2016, at 07:55, Yong Cui wrote: >>=20 >> Hi folks, >>=20 >> The authors of draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-03 believe this = document is ready for advancement. >> We would like to issue a working group last call starting from today = to April 5th. >>=20 >> Please send your substantial comments to the list during the last = call. 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22 Apr 2016 01:56:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160422085630.7587.49026.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 01:56:30 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: softwires@ietf.org Subject: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-04.txt X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:56:31 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Softwires of the IETF. Title : Unified IPv4-in-IPv6 Softwire CPE Authors : Mohamed Boucadair Ian Farrer Filename : draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-04.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2016-04-22 Abstract: In IPv6-only provider networks, transporting IPv4 packets encapsulated in IPv6 is a common solution to the problem of IPv4 service continuity. A number of differing functional approaches have been developed for this, each having their own specific characteristics. As these approaches share a similar functional architecture and use the same data plane mechanisms, this memo describes a specification whereby a single CPE can interwork with all of the standardized and proposed approaches to providing encapsulated IPv4 in IPv6 services. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Apr 22 02:02:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A5B12E8DF for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 02:02:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zKaVyp2dcGXK for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 02:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF9412E89D for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 02:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ians-mbp.lan ([62.225.30.138]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MAkkB-1b0Mk61AOx-00BtFp for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 11:02:17 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Ian Farrer In-Reply-To: <20160422085630.7587.49026.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 11:02:16 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160422085630.7587.49026.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Softwires WG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Kg/vN6i1G09W4YZp9k5/Y7PO85lOocKT+THbuu9cxVfVaqIlxvp 9S9AKQHrqG6uEhoqpAlgGDhLwwo6kYAH3rWQp7AdU3fslVkjv3ND9R70suFX3ST+EQiY1iH QbR9HSNSXjOHIj0DdncYkFKJq6J1VT31Hc+yATK/+UA5KSxrtabcaspuAy/Hh/gUrwle8gj HjBsR9WWPcusQ8QRgfELg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:T6qZSDjM7Gg=:KBg2R0rm0E8W201EZIvGEt BdHPGLAJXGY6xRy+1xuRWUCDwEUti8O/7mUYOoaow1yPh/7NUgA6zO+VvysDNkrdkXGSiUL47 qMXmGuXFf3Omhogzha9vaumxGbKwk7NFbmEOvNwBTuDyImmpHvRQcoaBQqkvzg+JjC7vl8CRF IEflRVbcNYh7ufTws+Q43mxB5raG5c4HJdvUwuKFhJO7wxf8T3WK6Dzu9ggIvjC2RVDlfN5hu 1vqm7LgYBTCH0JWxVo4qH9aBqYsmvsFgB5DSWx8goSvHLjXCLIcgtE14k5+TQyczyspDj1+gS 4d+8XHhMeqLRLUm1jo+MVr1Dhk3itTK+sgCxpoe7gxS6wMD5Zl7Buze//ielicsiPFjItlL+B 1FmLlvXTPbRHp/FF5zLog0lR7fb+E51XuW73csnWKF7clgnR4Na//C6S2f+Q6sOaoaaQZ1AOe Js8T278snUPUj5jz5ubVg1ndaiqHA/VxsVKp2ZfRb/10+AVNbUpRh0Bf0AGeL2BTo5mPM3/tc WgMcf37Rjf8MNl7dU/ZCBRhN5l/5SUvfaRzYYn1xgcWrvbGXaQtPJytKD+H0EXX4L6yDFinnm LkDf4pVpjTpZEAGzhjuolJfHjHGTuKlZwPpJNunZo2pNa0dl4FGscuGMpM4QKEYcZvg0lrPmX NL2bCVrVocn5mNwiuCQy9uc+8A2U43aw322QldQWylxp21Ic8WWm+QXnXWxLSWS3J4Fxm3H0I VFB0gG7XXZRlFOWvLg2zUxGT/phX5bxh6Za5BX5FQbGHn9TiFG1erFi6iu7nhe54EFIQlLBRJ g/ybous Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Softwires] I-D Action: draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-04.txt X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 09:02:23 -0000 Hi, I=E2=80=99ve just uploaded a new version of this draft that we believe = tackles the comments received at WGLC. The major change to the document = is the addition of a new =E2=80=98Deployment Considerations=E2=80=99 = section towards the end of the document which discusses address planning = considerations and backwards compatibility with CEs which don=E2=80=99t = implement the new option. A couple of nits have been fixed as well. Please send any comments etc. Cheers, Ian > On 22 Apr 2016, at 10:56, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Softwires of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Unified IPv4-in-IPv6 Softwire CPE > Authors : Mohamed Boucadair > Ian Farrer > Filename : draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-04.txt > Pages : 9 > Date : 2016-04-22 >=20 > Abstract: > In IPv6-only provider networks, transporting IPv4 packets > encapsulated in IPv6 is a common solution to the problem of IPv4 > service continuity. A number of differing functional approaches = have > been developed for this, each having their own specific > characteristics. As these approaches share a similar functional > architecture and use the same data plane mechanisms, this memo > describes a specification whereby a single CPE can interwork with = all > of the standardized and proposed approaches to providing = encapsulated > IPv4 in IPv6 services. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-04 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-softwire-unified-cpe-04 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From nobody Mon Apr 25 01:16:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E56B12D522 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:16:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.915 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.915 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RNT44ncPuNbi for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-nor36.orange.com [80.12.70.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D759412D4FB for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfednr01.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.65]) by opfednr23.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 386BEC019E; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.31.75]) by opfednr01.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 09A0B1A006E; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::60a9:abc3:86e6:2541]) by OPEXCLILMA4.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::65de:2f08:41e6:ebbe%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0279.002; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:16:37 +0200 From: To: Ian Farrer , "softwires@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast Thread-Index: AQHRkOAGejSAQ+UaR0W3uNhoLmkdTJ+abUwQ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:16:37 +0000 Message-ID: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933008D5F116@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.3] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:16:41 -0000 Hi Ian, all, I have the following comments about this draft: * This draft covers two cases: IPv4-over-IPv6 and IPv6-over-IPv4. I see a p= otential overlap with draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast (that passed the= WGLC) for the IPv4-over-IPv6 case. Unless there are some differences betwe= en these two documents for this case, I suggest to scope draft-ietf-softwir= e-mesh-multicast to focus on the IPv6-over-IPv4 and add a pointer to draft-= ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast. Otherwise, it would be helpful to identify = the differences between the two documents.=20 * The following section points to RFC7371. I think the authors meant https:= //tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format-06. =20 =3D=3D 4.2. Group Address Mapping For IPv4-over-IPv6 scenario, a simple algorithmic mapping between IPv4 multicast group addresses and IPv6 group addresses is supported. [RFC7371] has already defined an applicable format. Figure 4 is the reminder of the format: +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | 0-------------32--40--48--56--64--72--80--88--96-----------127| +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | MPREFIX64 |group address | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Figure 4: IPv4-Embedded IPv6 Multicast Address Format The MPREFIX64 for SSM mode is also defined in [RFC7371] : o ff3x:0:8000::/96 ('x' is any valid scope) =3D=3D =20 Thank you. Cheers, Med > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Softwires [mailto:softwires-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Ian > Farrer > Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 7 avril 2016 16:59 > =C0=A0: softwires@ietf.org > Objet=A0: [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multica= st >=20 > Hi, >=20 > This document has been around for some time, but has not received any > substantive reviews. Can I ask for volunteers who are willing to provide > reviews? >=20 > Thanks, > Ian >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires From nobody Mon Apr 25 01:32:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: softwires@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C1D12D1E9; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.618 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.618 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 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"draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast@ietf.org" , "softwires@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast Thread-Index: AQHRmnUrMQU7r+7MjEiSPnsbMSH3e5+aX2DQ Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:32:27 +0000 Message-ID: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933008D5F139@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.3] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933008D5F139OPEXCLILMA3corp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.2.1.2478543, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2016.3.14.165416 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , 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=?utf-8?B?5p2o5pyv?= To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, softwires@ietf.org Message-ID: <6b8f3697.b8b7.15450727233.Coremail.yang.shu@sz.tsinghua.edu.cn> In-Reply-To: <201604260823452971307@cernet.edu.cn> References: , <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933008D5F116@OPEXCLILMA3.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <201604260823452971307@cernet.edu.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [45.79.101.10] X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version 4.0.8 dev build 20140527(27298.6429.6128) Copyright (c) 2002-2016 www.mailtech.cn sz X-SendMailWithSms: false X-CM-TRANSID: iL7f2wDnnlqe1R5XMDAmAA--.11064W X-CM-SenderInfo: p1dqwhxvkxq232ow2x5qjk3toohg3hdfq/1tbiAQERDVSatondsgA DsB X-Coremail-Antispam: 1Ur529EdanIXcx71UUUUU7IcSsGvfJ3iIAIbVAYjsxI4VW5Jw CS07vEb4IE77IF4wCS07vE1I0E4x80FVAKz4kxMIAIbVAFxVCaYxvI4VCIwcAKzIAtYxBI daVFxhVjvjDU= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Softwires] Call for reviewersdraft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast X-BeenThere: softwires@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: softwires wg discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 02:45:46 -0000 Hi, Dear Mohamed, Thank for you advices! > * This draft covers two cases: IPv4-over-IPv6 and IPv6-over-IPv4. I see a= potential overlap with draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast (that passed t= he WGLC) for the IPv4-over-IPv6 case. Our draft focus on the mesh 4over6 case mentioned in rfc 4925. The "hub and= spoke" scenario is different with the ds-lite 4over6 case in rfc 6333. > * The following section points to RFC7371. I think the authors meant http= s://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format-06. = =20 We will update the references. Shu Yang > ------------------------------------------------------------- > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Amohamed.boucadair > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F=EF=BC=9A2016-04-25 16:27:33 > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9AIan Farrer; softwires@ietf.org > =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81=EF=BC=9A > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9ARe: [Softwires] Call for reviewersdraft-ietf-s= oftwire-mesh-multicast >=20 > Hi Ian, all, >=20 > I have the following comments about this draft: >=20 > * This draft covers two cases: IPv4-over-IPv6 and IPv6-over-IPv4. I see a= potential overlap with draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast (that passed t= he WGLC) for the IPv4-over-IPv6 case. Unless there are some differences bet= ween these two documents for this case, I suggest to scope draft-ietf-softw= ire-mesh-multicast to focus on the IPv6-over-IPv4 and add a pointer to draf= t-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast. Otherwise, it would be helpful to identif= y the differences between the two documents.=20 >=20 > * The following section points to RFC7371. I think the authors meant http= s://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format-06. = =20 >=20 > =3D=3D > 4.2. Group Address Mapping >=20 > For IPv4-over-IPv6 scenario, a simple algorithmic mapping between > IPv4 multicast group addresses and IPv6 group addresses is supported. > [RFC7371] has already defined an applicable format. Figure 4 is the > reminder of the format: >=20 >=20 > +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ > | 0-------------32--40--48--56--64--72--80--88--96-----------127| > +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ > | MPREFIX64 |group address | > +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >=20 >=20 > Figure 4: IPv4-Embedded IPv6 Multicast Address Format >=20 > The MPREFIX64 for SSM mode is also defined in [RFC7371] : >=20 > o ff3x:0:8000::/96 ('x' is any valid scope) > =3D=3D =20 >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > Cheers, > Med >=20 > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De=C2=A0: Softwires [mailto:softwires-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de I= an > > Farrer > > Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: jeudi 7 avril 2016 16:59 > > =C3=80=C2=A0: softwires@ietf.org > > Objet=C2=A0: [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-mu= lticast > >=20 > > Hi, > >=20 > > This document has been around for some time, but has not received any > > substantive reviews. Can I ask for volunteers who are willing to provid= e > > reviews? > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Ian > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Softwires mailing list > > Softwires@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > . 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I see = a potential overlap with draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast (that passed = the WGLC) for the IPv4-over-IPv6 case. > Our draft focus on the mesh 4over6 case mentioned in rfc 4925. The "hub a= nd spoke" scenario is different with the ds-lite 4over6 case in rfc 6333. This seems to be correct. This draft is based on what I call weird definition of mesh problem in RFC 4925. I don't think it was followed up much afterwards. If we look back, I think this draft has taken up the precious multicast space and as a result, no space was left for much more important edge multicast transition protocols. Sigh. Regards, Behcet > >> * The following section points to RFC7371. I think the authors meant htt= ps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format-06. > We will update the references. > > Shu Yang > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Amohamed.boucadair >> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F=EF=BC=9A2016-04-25 16:27:33 >> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9AIan Farrer; softwires@ietf.org >> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81=EF=BC=9A >> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9ARe: [Softwires] Call for reviewersdraft-ietf-= softwire-mesh-multicast >> >> Hi Ian, all, >> >> I have the following comments about this draft: >> >> * This draft covers two cases: IPv4-over-IPv6 and IPv6-over-IPv4. I see = a potential overlap with draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast (that passed = the WGLC) for the IPv4-over-IPv6 case. Unless there are some differences be= tween these two documents for this case, I suggest to scope draft-ietf-soft= wire-mesh-multicast to focus on the IPv6-over-IPv4 and add a pointer to dra= ft-ietf-softwire-dslite-multicast. Otherwise, it would be helpful to identi= fy the differences between the two documents. >> >> * The following section points to RFC7371. I think the authors meant htt= ps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format-06. >> >> =3D=3D >> 4.2. Group Address Mapping >> >> For IPv4-over-IPv6 scenario, a simple algorithmic mapping between >> IPv4 multicast group addresses and IPv6 group addresses is supported. >> [RFC7371] has already defined an applicable format. Figure 4 is the >> reminder of the format: >> >> >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >> | 0-------------32--40--48--56--64--72--80--88--96-----------127| >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >> | MPREFIX64 |group address | >> +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ >> >> >> Figure 4: IPv4-Embedded IPv6 Multicast Address Format >> >> The MPREFIX64 for SSM mode is also defined in [RFC7371] : >> >> o ff3x:0:8000::/96 ('x' is any valid scope) >> =3D=3D >> >> Thank you. >> >> Cheers, >> Med >> >> > -----Message d'origine----- >> > De : Softwires [mailto:softwires-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Ian >> > Farrer >> > Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 7 avril 2016 16:59 >> > =C3=80 : softwires@ietf.org >> > Objet : [Softwires] Call for reviewers draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multic= ast >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > This document has been around for some time, but has not received any >> > substantive reviews. Can I ask for volunteers who are willing to provi= de >> > reviews? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Ian >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Softwires mailing list >> > Softwires@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Softwires mailing list >> Softwires@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires >> . > > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires