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Hi,

On Mon 30 Oct 2017 16:12, internet-drafts@ietf.org writes:

>         Title           : A YANG Data Model for IPv4-in-IPv6 Address plus Port Softwires
>         Authors         : Qi Sun
>                           Hao Wang
>                           Yong Cui
>                           Ian Farrer
>                           Sladjana Zechlin
>                           Mohamed Boucadair
>                           Rajiv Asati
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-yang-02.txt
> 	Pages           : 41
> 	Date            : 2017-10-30

I had a look at this for the Snabb lwAFTR and found a few issues.

 1. "hairpin-ipv4-packets" and "hairpin-ipv4-bytes" need to be state
    data, not config data.  Consider moving them inside the
    "traffic-stat" container.

 2. "dropped-ipv4-bytes", described as counting bytes from dropped IPv4
    fragments, should probably be named "dropped-ipv4-fragment-bytes" or
    something.  Note there is already "dropped-ipv4-byte" (sic) for
    dropped IPv4 bytes as a whole.

 3. "dropped-ipv4-bytes" (from (2)), "dropped-ipv4-fragments",
    "hairpin-ipv4-packets" (from (1)), and "hairpin-ipv4-bytes" (from
    (1)) are plural whereas the rest of the counters are singular.  One
    or the other should probably be chosen.

 4. The type of "icmpv6-errors-rate" is "uint16".  This is probably too
    restrictive.

Regards,

Andy


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Hi,

Thanks for your comments. Please see inline below.

Cheers,
Ian

> On 8. Nov 2017, at 10:47, Andy Wingo <wingo@igalia.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> On Mon 30 Oct 2017 16:12, internet-drafts@ietf.org writes:
>=20
>>        Title           : A YANG Data Model for IPv4-in-IPv6 Address =
plus Port Softwires
>>        Authors         : Qi Sun
>>                          Hao Wang
>>                          Yong Cui
>>                          Ian Farrer
>>                          Sladjana Zechlin
>>                          Mohamed Boucadair
>>                          Rajiv Asati
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-yang-02.txt
>> 	Pages           : 41
>> 	Date            : 2017-10-30
>=20
> I had a look at this for the Snabb lwAFTR and found a few issues.
>=20
> 1. "hairpin-ipv4-packets" and "hairpin-ipv4-bytes" need to be state
>    data, not config data.  Consider moving them inside the
>    "traffic-stat" container.

[if - This was an oversight when we moved from =E2=80=98config false=E2=80=
=99 at the leaf level to the container level. The following change fixes =
it:

container traffic-stat {
              config false;
              description
                =E2=80=9Ctraffic-stat=E2=80=9D;
              uses softwire-common:traffic-stat;
              leaf hairpin-ipv4-bytes {
                type yang:zero-based-counter64;
                description =E2=80=9CIPv4 packets locally routed between =
two CEs
                  (hairpinned).=E2=80=9C;
              }

             leaf hairpin-ipv4-packets {
                type yang:zero-based-counter64;
                description =E2=80=9CIPv4 bytes locally routed between =
two CEs
                  (hairpinned).=E2=80=9C;
              }

             leaf active-softwire-num {
                type uint32;
                description
                  =E2=80=9CThe number of currently active softwires on =
the
                  lw4over6 (binding) instance.=E2=80=9C;
              }
            }

I=E2=80=99ve also noticed that config false hasn=E2=80=99t been set for =
the algorithm traffic stats. I=E2=80=99ll fix that as well.

>=20
> 2. "dropped-ipv4-bytes", described as counting bytes from dropped IPv4
>    fragments, should probably be named "dropped-ipv4-fragment-bytes" =
or
>    something.  Note there is already "dropped-ipv4-byte" (sic) for
>    dropped IPv4 bytes as a whole.

[if - will fix]

>=20
> 3. "dropped-ipv4-bytes" (from (2)), "dropped-ipv4-fragments",
>    "hairpin-ipv4-packets" (from (1)), and "hairpin-ipv4-bytes" (from
>    (1)) are plural whereas the rest of the counters are singular.  One
>    or the other should probably be chosen.

[if - Will fix]

>=20
> 4. The type of "icmpv6-errors-rate" is "uint16".  This is probably too
>    restrictive.

[if - I=E2=80=99ll up it to uint32]

>=20
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>=20
> Andy
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Hi,

Here=E2=80=99s my review of v07 of the draft.

Cheers,
Ian

Overall comments:
o1. There is a lot of duplication of text between the descriptions given =
in Section 2 and the YANG model=E2=80=99s description fields. This makes =
the document less readable, and I don=E2=80=99t see it adds anything.
As much of the text in section 2 is taken directly from the RFCs that =
originally defined the functions, it would be better to remove the =
section 2 descriptions where not necessary (i.e. only =
described/enumerate the important nodes in reference to how they are =
used/relate to other models, and have pointers to the original =
RFC/section where more detail is necessary).
Keeping the more verbose descriptions in the model make sense as these =
are the ones that most users will actually see once published.


Model comments:
m1. v6-v4-dscp-preservation - deals with whether the DCSP of the =
incoming packet will be copied to the header of the outgoing packet or =
not.
Would this be better implemented as a feature in the model, as this =
would allow the use in the mapping entry to be made conditional (with =
if-feature) under the mapping-entry augment.=20

m2. Recommendation 3 of RFC7785 describes a rate limit for how often a =
source address can be migrated. The model doesn=E2=80=99t give any way =
of configuring this. Also, if there is a rate limit on the source =
address change rate, a timestamp as to when the b4-ipv6-address was =
updated would be useful.


Gramatical Comments:
Section 1
g1. s/and adopts Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA)./and =
adopts the Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA)./


Section 2
g2. s/ The tunnel MTU to avoid fragmentation/The tunnel MTU, used to =
avoid fragmentation/

g3. The bullet point starting =E2=80=98The IPv4 DSCP marking of the IPv4 =
packet=E2=80=99 finishes with the following sentence
' This information can be used by the AFTR fro enforcing the poi=E2=80=99.=
 Unsure what this is meant to say.


Section 7
g4. s/eraly ynagdoctors/early yangdoctors/

g5. s/comments/comments./



> On 26. Oct 2017, at 09:09, Ian Farrer <ianfarrer@gmx.com> wrote:
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> The authors believe that draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-07 is now =
ready for advancement. This email marks the start of a 2 week work group =
last call for the draft.
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Hi Med,

>>=20
>> Model comments:
>> m1. v6-v4-dscp-preservation - deals with whether the DCSP of the =
incoming
>> packet will be copied to the header of the outgoing packet or not.
>> Would this be better implemented as a feature in the model, as this =
would
>> allow the use in the mapping entry to be made conditional (with if-
>> feature) under the mapping-entry augment.
>=20
> [Med] This is better handled by adding this statement:
>=20
>    when =
"/if:interfaces/if:interface/dslite-aftr:v6-v4-dscp-preservation=3D'true'"=
;
>=20

Yes, that works.

Cheers,
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not.<br class=3D"">Would this be better implemented as a feature in the =
model, as this would<br class=3D"">allow the use in the mapping entry to =
be made conditional (with if-<br class=3D"">feature) under the =
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Re-,

OK. The updated version with your comments will be submitted next Monday.

Cheers,
Med

De : Ian Farrer [mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com]
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=C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN
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Hi Med,



Model comments:
m1. v6-v4-dscp-preservation - deals with whether the DCSP of the incoming
packet will be copied to the header of the outgoing packet or not.
Would this be better implemented as a feature in the model, as this would
allow the use in the mapping entry to be made conditional (with if-
feature) under the mapping-entry augment.

[Med] This is better handled by adding this statement:

   when "/if:interfaces/if:interface/dslite-aftr:v6-v4-dscp-preservation=3D=
'true'";


Yes, that works.

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[Med] This is better handled by adding this statement:<br>
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Hi Med,

One small additional change (I don=E2=80=99t know why I haven=E2=80=99t =
seen this before) - Please can you rename the document 'YANG Data =
Modules for Dual-Stack Lite=E2=80=99 to be inline with the naming of =
other related RFCs.

Thanks,
Ian

> On 10. Nov 2017, at 20:17, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> =
<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>=20
> Re-,
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Monday.
> =20
> Cheers,
> Med
> =20
> De : Ian Farrer [mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com]=20
> Envoy=C3=A9 : vendredi 10 novembre 2017 12:43
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> Hi Med,
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> m1. v6-v4-dscp-preservation - deals with whether the DCSP of the =
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> Would this be better implemented as a feature in the model, as this =
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> [Med] This is better handled by adding this statement:
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>    when =
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 small additional change (I don=E2=80=99t know why I haven=E2=80=99t =
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'Courier New';" class=3D"">OK. The updated version with your comments =
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'Courier New';" class=3D"">Cheers,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
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10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Ian Farrer [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com" =
class=3D"">mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>vendredi 10 novembre 2017 =
12:43<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">=C3=80&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>BOUCADAIR Mohamed =
IMT/OLN<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Softwires list; <a =
href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang@ietf.org</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Objet&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Softwires] Work Group =
Last call for draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-07 - Ends 9th Nov<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Hi Med,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; =
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0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Model comments:<br class=3D"">m1. =
v6-v4-dscp-preservation - deals with whether the DCSP of the incoming<br =
class=3D"">packet will be copied to the header of the outgoing packet or =
not.<br class=3D"">Would this be better implemented as a feature in the =
model, as this would<br class=3D"">allow the use in the mapping entry to =
be made conditional (with if-<br class=3D"">feature) under the =
mapping-entry augment.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></blockquote><div=
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New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">[Med] =
This is better handled by adding this statement:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
"/if:interfaces/if:interface/dslite-aftr:v6-v4-dscp-preservation=3D'true'"=
;<br style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; text-align: start; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Yes, that works.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Cheers,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Ian</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Softwires WG of the IETF.

        Title           : YANG Data Modules for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)
        Authors         : Mohamed Boucadair
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Senthil Sivakumar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-08.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2017-11-12

Abstract:
   This document defines YANG modules for the DS-Lite Address Family
   Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements.

Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)

   Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned to
   this document:

   o  "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"

   o  "RFC XXXX: YANG Data Modules for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";

   o  "reference: RFC XXXX"


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Hi Med,

Thanks for the update. I=E2=80=99ve just checked through this version. =
For some reason, section 1.2 has reverted to an earlier version with =
explicit instructions for the tree diagram (this wasn=E2=80=99t the case =
in 07). This was from Mahesh=E2=80=99s YANG doctor review, and your =
response from 9th October:

---
> Section 1.2 Tree Diagram
>=20
> Please refer to
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-01 =
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-01>
> instead of
> defining the nomenclature for tree diagram in the document.

[Med] Done. Thanks.
=E2=80=94

For my comment about rate limiting changes to the b4-ipv6-address. There =
is now a node for setting the permitted change interval, but I don=E2=80=99=
t see how I can use the model to check if a new address offered by a =
client is allowable. My thinking is that if there was a =
=E2=80=98last-address-change yang:date-and-time=E2=80=99 leaf under leaf =
b4-ipv6-address, then it is easy to use the model to see if an address =
change is permitted, or even raise a notification if it is not.

My point is, if a client is trying to change its address more regularly =
than the policy allows, then they probably don=E2=80=99t have IPv4 =
service from when their address has changed until the AFTR policy allows =
the source address change. If this is happening en-masse (either from a =
single or many clients) for any reason, an operator probably wants to =
know about it.

Cheers,
Ian






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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Med,</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks for the update. I=E2=80=99ve =
just checked through this version. For some reason, section 1.2 has =
reverted to an earlier version with explicit instructions for the tree =
diagram (this wasn=E2=80=99t the case in 07). This was from Mahesh=E2=80=99=
s YANG doctor review, and your response from 9th October:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">---</div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Section 1.2 Tree =
Diagram<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please refer to<br class=3D""><a =
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1" =
class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagram=
s-01</a><br class=3D"">instead of<br class=3D"">defining the =
nomenclature for tree diagram in the document.<br =
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class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=E2=80=94</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">For my comment about rate limiting =
changes to the b4-ipv6-address. There is now a node for setting the =
permitted change interval, but I don=E2=80=99t see how I can use the =
model to check if a new address offered by a client is allowable. My =
thinking is that if there was a =
=E2=80=98last-address-change&nbsp;yang:date-and-time=E2=80=99 leaf =
under&nbsp;leaf b4-ipv6-address, then it is easy to use the model to see =
if an address change is permitted, or even raise a notification if it is =
not.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My point =
is, if a client is trying to change its address more regularly than the =
policy allows, then they probably don=E2=80=99t have IPv4 service from =
when their address has changed until the AFTR policy allows the source =
address change. If this is happening en-masse (either from a single or =
many clients) for any reason, an operator probably wants to know about =
it.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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Hi Med,

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Ian

> On 13. Nov 2017, at 18:28, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> =
<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:
>=20
> Re-,
> =20
> Please see inline.
> =20
> Cheers,
> Med
> =20
> De : Ian Farrer [mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com <mailto:ianfarrer@gmx.com>]=20=

> Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 13 novembre 2017 10:00
> =C3=80 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN
> Cc : softwire-chairs@ietf.org <mailto:softwire-chairs@ietf.org>; =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang@ietf.org =
<mailto:draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang@ietf.org>; Softwires list
> Objet : Re: Tags changed for draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang
> =20
> Hi Med,
> =20
> Thanks for the update. I=E2=80=99ve just checked through this version. =
For some reason, section 1.2 has reverted to an earlier version with =
explicit instructions for the tree diagram (this wasn=E2=80=99t the case =
in 07). This was from Mahesh=E2=80=99s YANG doctor review, and your =
response from 9th October:
> =20
> [Med] I have implemented the change because I thought that document is =
advanced in the publication process. But when I recently checked, I =
found the document is not that advanced in the process. I removed citing =
that document to avoid a normative dependency which can be avoided by =
explicitly inserting the appropriate text.

[if - It was only cited as an informative reference in 07, so there =
shouldn=E2=80=99t be a dependency problem]

> =20
> ---
> Section 1.2 Tree Diagram
>=20
> Please refer to
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-01 =
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-01>
> instead of
> defining the nomenclature for tree diagram in the document.
>=20
> [Med] Done. Thanks.
> =E2=80=94
> =20
> For my comment about rate limiting changes to the b4-ipv6-address. =
There is now a node for setting the permitted change interval, but I =
don=E2=80=99t see how I can use the model to check if a new address =
offered by a client is allowable.
> My thinking is that if there was a =E2=80=98last-address-change =
yang:date-and-time=E2=80=99 leaf under leaf b4-ipv6-address, then it is =
easy to use the model to see if an address change is permitted, or even =
raise a notification if it is not.
> =20
> [Med] Are you asking for something similar to: =
https://github.com/boucadair/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/commit/5f37cf=
90ddadeec544e8087c1643d3bf923e7d5d =
<https://github.com/boucadair/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/commit/5f37c=
f90ddadeec544e8087c1643d3bf923e7d5d>?
> =20
> My point is, if a client is trying to change its address more =
regularly than the policy allows, then they probably don=E2=80=99t have =
IPv4 service from when their address has changed until the AFTR policy =
allows the source address change. If this is happening en-masse (either =
from a single or many clients) for any reason, an operator probably =
wants to know about it.


[if - Yes. Looks good. Can I propose the following change to the name =
and description:

Old:
 notification too-fast-b4-address-change-event {
   description
     "Notifications must be generated when a B4's IPv6 address change
      is discarded because of b4-address-change-limit.";

New:
 notification  b4-address-change-limit-policy-violation {
   description
     =E2=80=9CGenerates notifications when a B4 unsuccessfully attempts =
to change IPv6 address
      in a time shorter than the value of 'b4-address-change-limit.";

]

> =20
> Cheers,
> Ian


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class=3D"">Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>lundi 13 novembre 2017 =
10:00<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">=C3=80&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>BOUCADAIR Mohamed =
IMT/OLN<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:softwire-chairs@ietf.org" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">softwire-chairs@ietf.org</a>;<span=
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href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang@ietf.org" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang@ietf.org</a>; Softwires =
list<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Objet&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: Tags changed for =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Hi Med,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Thanks for the update. I=E2=80=99ve just =
checked through this version. For some reason, section 1.2 has reverted =
to an earlier version with explicit instructions for the tree diagram =
(this wasn=E2=80=99t the case in 07). This was from Mahesh=E2=80=99s =
YANG doctor review, and your response from 9th October:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: 'Courier New';" class=3D"">[Med] I have implemented the =
change because I thought that document is advanced in the publication =
process. But when I recently checked, I found the document is not that =
advanced in the process. I removed citing that document to avoid a =
normative dependency which can be avoided by explicitly inserting the =
appropriate =
text.</span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>[if - It was only cited as an informative =
reference in 07, so there shouldn=E2=80=99t be a dependency =
problem]</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; =
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0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">---<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Section 1.2 Tree =
Diagram<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please refer to<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-0=
1" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagram=
s-01</a><br class=3D"">instead of<br class=3D"">defining the =
nomenclature for tree diagram in the document.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></blockquote><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">[Med] Done. Thanks.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">=E2=80=94<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">For my comment about rate limiting changes to the =
b4-ipv6-address. There is now a node for setting the permitted change =
interval, but I don=E2=80=99t see how I can use the model to check if a =
new address offered by a client is allowable.<span style=3D"" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">My thinking is that if there =
was a =E2=80=98last-address-change&nbsp;yang:date-and-time=E2=80=99 leaf =
under&nbsp;leaf b4-ipv6-address, then it is easy to use the model to see =
if an address change is permitted, or even raise a notification if it is =
not.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
'Courier New';" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=3D"">[Med] Are you asking for =
something similar to:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a=
 =
href=3D"https://github.com/boucadair/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/commi=
t/5f37cf90ddadeec544e8087c1643d3bf923e7d5d" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://github.com/boucadair/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/co=
mmit/5f37cf90ddadeec544e8087c1643d3bf923e7d5d</a>?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">My point =
is, if a client is trying to change its address more regularly than the =
policy allows, then they prob</span>ably don=E2=80=99t have IPv4 service =
from when their address has changed until the AFTR policy allows the =
source address change. If this is happening en-masse (either from a =
single or many clients) for any reason, an operator probably wants to =
know about it.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>[if - Yes. Looks good. =
Can I propose the following change to the name and =
description:</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Old:</div><div>&nbsp;notification&nbsp;too-fast-b4-a=
ddress-change-event&nbsp;{<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;"Notifications must be generated when a =
B4's IPv6 address change<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; is discarded =
because of b4-address-change-limit.";</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>New:</div><div><div>&nbsp;notification&nbsp;&nbsp;b4=
-address-change-limit-policy-violation&nbsp;{<br class=3D"">&nbsp; =
&nbsp;description<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=E2=80=9CGenerates =
notifications when a B4 unsuccessfully attempts to change IPv6 =
address</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; in a time shorter than the value =
of 'b4-address-change-limit.";</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div>]</div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" =
style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: =
0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
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style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">Cheers,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Ian</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
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Hi Med,

> [if - It was only cited as an informative reference in 07, so there =
shouldn=E2=80=99t be a dependency problem]
> [Med] The point is that I=E2=80=99m questioning that citation as an =
informative reference. Because a reader must look at that document to =
understand the meaning of the symbols, it should be cited as a normative =
reference. Unless you have a strong objection, I suggest to maintain the =
current text.
>=20

The comment was originally raised by Mahesh, you agreed and put it in =
the 07 update. If you think this needs to be changed now then Mahesh =
should be consulted first.

Cheers,
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border-left-color: blue; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">[if =
- It was only cited as an informative reference in 07, so there =
shouldn=E2=80=99t be a dependency problem]<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div=
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New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=3D"">[Med] The point is that =
I=E2=80=99m questioning that citation as an informative reference. =
Because a reader must look at that document to understand the meaning of =
the symbols, it should be cited as a normative reference. Unless you =
have a strong objection, I suggest to maintain the current text.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">The comment was originally raised by Mahesh, =
you agreed and put it in the 07 update. If you think this needs to be =
changed now then Mahesh should be consulted first.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div =
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Hi Ian,

I have no IPR nor I'm aware of any related to this draft.

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Hi,

We=E2=80=99ve just submitted v03 of this draft. Changes from -02 are:

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* Removal of old revision fields
* br-ipv6-addr in the CE module now mandatory
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With this version, the authors believe that all outstanding issues are =
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Softwires WG of the IETF.

        Title           : YANG Modules for IPv4-in-IPv6 Address plus Port Softwires
        Authors         : Qi Sun
                          Hao Wang
                          Yong Cui
                          Ian Farrer
                          Sladjana Zechlin
                          Mohamed Boucadair
                          Rajiv Asati
	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-yang-03.txt
	Pages           : 41
	Date            : 2017-11-13

Abstract:
   This document defines YANG modules for the configuration and
   operation of IPv4-in-IPv6 softwire Border Relays and Customer
   Premises Equipment.  The model covers the Lightweight 4over6, MAP-E,
   and MAP-T softwire mechanisms.



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Hi, authors of draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-11,

Before we submit this doc to IESG, we need to have the following answer =
from each of your authors.

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR =
disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 =
and BCP 79 have already been filed. If not, explain why?

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If =
so, summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR =
disclosures.

BTW, if  there are any existing implementations of the protocol, please =
also send to the list.

Additionally, there are two comments from nits.=20
  =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7598' is defined on line 627, but no =
explicit
     reference was found in the text

  -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 7749
     (Obsoleted by RFC 7991)



Cheers,

Yong


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Hello WG,

I'm unaware of any IPR that pertains to this draft.

Cheers,

Christian.

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Softwires WG of the IETF.

        Title           : YANG Data Modules for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)
        Authors         : Mohamed Boucadair
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Senthil Sivakumar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-09.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2017-11-14

Abstract:
   This document defines YANG modules for the DS-Lite Address Family
   Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements.

Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)

   Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned to
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   o  "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"

   o  "RFC XXXX: YANG Data Modules for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";

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Mohamed,

I realize that I am responding to an earlier thread than the one you =
asked your question on, so let me address the question that you asked on =
that thread first.

Yes, the netmod tree diagrams draft is not an RFC, and yang-doctors do =
recommend that authors of drafts with YANG module reference the netmod =
tree diagram draft rather than cut and paste description of the tree =
symbols into their drafts. To the question of whether that reference can =
be informative or does it have to be normative, I would agree that it =
has to be normative. I realize that might impact the publication of the =
draft, so I am including the chairs of NETMOD WG(and one of the authors) =
to get an idea of when they think the draft could be published as an =
RFC.

But before you rush into publication, I took another look at the -08 =
version of the draft, and I have additional concerns about the draft and =
the YANG module in it, that I believe warrant another look.

Minor comments

- Please remove reference to chairs in the YANG module. All we recommend =
are the authors/editors.
- Please add a note for the RFC editor to replace =E2=80=9CRFC XXXX=E2=80=9D=
 with the RFC number when the draft is published.
- The indentations in the YANG module are still not consistent. Please =
fix them.

Additional comments:
- The YANG module makes multiple references to subscriber-mask as a way =
to uniquely identity a subscriber. That, as you say is derived from the =
NAT module. But the NAT module has no subscriber-mask. It has =
subscriber-mask-v6. Is that what you meant to refer to? Does it mean you =
need a subscriber-mask for v6 only?
- Also, you augment the NAT module at the node nat:policy. But =
subscriber-mask-v6 is a child of nat:nat-policy.=20
- And, nat:nat-policy is a list with a key of policy-id. But you have no =
policy-id defined in your module. How do you reference the particular =
nat:nat-policy without a key? Was this model compiled/validated against =
the latest NAT module?
- You augment nat:mapping-entry, which is also a list with a key of =
=E2=80=98index=E2=80=99. Where are you deriving =E2=80=98index=E2=80=99 =
from?
- b4-ipv4-address has a default value of 192.0.0.2, and you have a note =
that the mask is /29. Are all ipv4 addresses configured with /29 mask? =
If not, how is netmask indicated to the device?

See additional comments inline.

Cheers.

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:34 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
>=20
> Dear Mahesh,=20
>=20
> Thank you very much for the detailed review. Much appreciated.=20
>=20
> It seems that you reviewed -02 of the draft, while the latest version =
is -06 =
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/).
>=20
> As you can see below, almost all the comments do not apply for -06.
>=20
> Please see inline.=20
>=20
> Cheers,
> Med
>=20
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com]
>> Envoy=C3=A9 : samedi 7 octobre 2017 02:17
>> =C3=80 : yang-doctors@ietf.org
>> Cc : softwires@ietf.org; =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang.all@ietf.org;
>> ietf@ietf.org
>> Objet : Yangdoctors early review of =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02
>>=20
>> Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani
>> Review result: On the Right Track
>>=20
>> Document reviewed: draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02. Do not know =
why I
>> was
>> assigned -02 version when I now notice that there are several 03 =
versions
>> submitted all the way up to -06.
>>=20
>> Status: On the Right Track.
>>=20
>> I am not an expert in DS-Lite. This review is looking at the draft =
from a
>> YANG
>> perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the =
Right Track=E2=80=9D
>> because
>> of some of the points discussed below. The authors are encouraged to =
spend
>> time
>> looking at other models for examples on how to write the model, read
>> RFC6087,
>> Guidelines for YANG documents.
>>=20
>> Summary:
>>=20
>> This document defines a YANG data model for the DS-Lite Address =
Family
>> Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements .
>>=20
>> Overall Comments:
>>=20
>> The draft should refer to YANG 1.1 (RFC 7950) instead of RFC6020.
>=20
> [Med] Can fix this one.=20
>=20
>>=20
>> The draft is not NMDA compliant. It carries a separate -state =
container
>> that
>> needs to be collapsed into one single container. For example, it =
carries
>> containers such as aftr-current-config which seems to be carrying =
state
>> information for the leafs in dslite-config.
>=20
> [Med] There are no such containers in -06.
>=20
>>=20
>> Is it given that a server will implement both AFTR and B4?
> [Med] No.
>=20
> If not, then
>> please
>> define feature statements and use if-feature for each part (AFTR and =
B4),
>> so
>> implementors can choose what part of the model is implemented.

[mj] I do not see this comment addressed.

>>=20
>> Section 1.1 Terminology
>>=20
>> What terms are defined in RFC 6333 that are being used in this draft.
>> Please be
>> explicit.
>=20
> [Med] Actually, all the terms defined in Section 3 of RFC 6333 are =
used in this document. I added an explicit pointer to Section 3.
>=20
>>=20
>> Section 1.2 Tree Diagram
>>=20
>> Please refer to
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-01
>> instead of
>> defining the nomenclature for tree diagram in the document.
>=20
> [Med] Done. Thanks.
>=20
>>=20
>> Section 2.
>>=20
>> s/can:/can
>=20
> [Med] There is no such occurrence in -06.
>=20
>> s/provisioned to the AFTR/provisioned on the AFTR/
>=20
> [Med] There is no such occurrence in -06.
>=20
>>=20
>> The document is very light in the architectural description of the =
YANG
>> model
>> itself. Statements like =E2=80=9Cmodel supports enabling one or more =
instances of
>> the
>> AFTR function on a device=E2=80=9D are obvious looking at the model. =
A more
>> reasonable
>> description would be why multiple instances need to be supported. The =
same
>> is
>> true for =E2=80=9CAFTR instance=E2=80=9D. The fact that the instance =
has been defined as a
>> list
>> assure that each instance can be provisioned with dedicated =
configuration
>> data,
>> and maintain its own data table. Again why the multiple instances =
need to
>> be
>> maintained, what purpose do they serve, and the fact that they =
maintain
>> their
>> own data table is not clear.
>>=20
>> The document =E2=80=9Cassumes [RFC4787] [RFC5382][RFC 5508] are =
enabled=E2=80=9D. What
>> particular aspects of those documents is the draft assuming? Note, =
RFC4787
>> is
>> NAT Behavioral Requirements for Unicast UDP, and outlines some seven
>> behaviors,
>> all the way from NAT and Port Translation, Filtering, Hairpinning to
>> Fragmentation of Outgoing Packets. Even if all the behaviors are =
assumed,
>> it
>> would be good to know how they impact this particular model.
>=20
> [Med] What it meant is that all the recommendations are supported + =
all recommended values are the ones defined in those RFCs.
>=20
>>=20
>> Section 3
>>=20
>> General Comments.
>>=20
>> Please follow [RFC6087], Guidelines for YANG documents, on how to =
write a
>> YANG
>> model. For example, the organization in the model should be IETF =
Softwire
>> WG,
>> not just Softwire WG.
>>=20
>> The indentation in the model is off in a few places (reference is a
>> keyword
>> that should be at the same indentation as description in all revision
>> statements). Most models follow an indentation of 2 characters for =
every
>> subsequent depth in the model. I see anywhere between 2 to 10 =
characters
>> of
>> indentation.
>>=20
>=20
> [Med] Will double check. Thanks.

[mj] As mentioned above, the model still has indentation issues.

>=20
>=20
>> As far as naming conventions go, there is little value repeating =
names in
>> a
>> given hierarchy. For example, if the grouping is aftr-parameters, =
then it
>> is a
>> given that parameters inside the grouping are aftr parameters. No =
need to
>> say
>> dslite-aftr-ipv6-address, where both dslite and aftr are redundant.
>>=20
>=20
> [Med] Please note that this does not apply for -06.

>=20
>=20
>> There is little or no use of must statements to qualify the =
configuration.
>> I am
>> not an expert at DS-Lite, so I cannot suggest where a must statement =
may
>> be
>> helpful to have. But with all the parameters that are optional, there =
must
>> be
>> some relationship between the attributes that could be captured with =
must
>> statements. For example, for the leaf max-softwire-per-subscriber, =
the
>> leaf is
>> trying to prevent a misbehaving subscriber. Could that behavior be =
somehow
>> captured with a must statement for the resources it can/cannot =
consume. Or
>> with
>> port-presevation-enable and port-parity-preservation-enable? Is there =
a
>> relationship between the two variables that could be captured in the
>> model?
>>=20
>> All references to RFC should be moved under a reference section.
>=20
> [Med] Please check -06. All references are under a reference section.=20=

>=20
>=20
> For
>> example:
>> OLD:
>>      leaf udp-lifetime {
>>          type uint32;
>>          units "seconds";
>>          default 120;
>>          description
>>              "UDP inactivity timeout [RFC4787].";
>>      }
>> NEW:
>>      leaf udp-lifetime {
>>          type uint32;
>>          units "seconds";
>>          default 120;
>>          description
>>              "UDP inactivity timeout.=E2=80=9C;
>>          reference
>>            =E2=80=9C[RFC4787].=E2=80=9D;
>>      }
>>=20
>> A note should be prepared for the RFC editor to indicate what =
revision the
>> model should finally carry, and what the description/reference =
statement
>> in the
>> model should look like when the document is finally published. See
>> examples in
>> other drafts such as draft-ietf-netconf-zerotouch Editorial Note on =
what
>> to add.
>>=20
>> Specific Comments
>>=20
>> The name of the file in the line with <CODE BEGINS> is missing the =
.yang
>> suffix
>> in the file. When extracted, the extracted file will be missing the
>> suffix.
>> Please add it. This leads to the following error from yanglint.
>=20
> [Med] This was fixed in previous version.=20
>=20
>>=20
>> ietf-dslite@2017-01-03" without file extension - unknown format.
>>=20
>> In grouping port-number, could the port-range be something as simple =
as
>>=20
>> container port-number {
>>  must =E2=80=9Cstarting-port=E2=80=9D;
>>  leaf starting-port {
>>    type inet:port-number;
>>  }
>>  leaf ending-port {
>>    type inet:port-number;
>>  }
>> }
>>=20
>> where if there is no ending-port it is deemed to be a single port, =
but if
>> there
>> is a ending-port is considered to be a range?
>=20
> [Med] This does not apply for -06.
>=20
>>=20
>> The list transport-protocol has one leaf which is the =
transport-protocol-
>> id.
>> Why does the single leaf, which is the key, need to be inside a list?
>=20
> [Med] Idem as above.
>=20
>>=20
>> Logging-info has a choice statement for protocol. Is it that there =
can be
>> only
>> one choice for the form of logging? Could it be possible that users =
might
>> want
>> to enable both syslog and ipfix?
>=20
> [Med] Idem as above.
>=20
>>=20
>> A pyang compilation of the model with =E2=80=94ietf and =E2=80=94lint =
option was clean.
>>=20
>> A idnits run of the draft reveals some issues with spacing and =
references.
>> The
>> one related to spacing are parts of the diagram, which confuses =
idnits.
>=20
> [Med] Will double check those. Thanks.
>=20
>>=20
>> Checking nits according to https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :
>>  =
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>>=20
>>  ** There are 5 instances of too long lines in the document, the =
longest
>> one
>>     being 3 characters in excess of 72.
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D There are 2 instances of lines with non-RFC6890-compliant =
IPv4
>> addresses
>>     in the document.  If these are example addresses, they should be
>> changed.
>>=20
>>  Miscellaneous warnings:
>>  =
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Line 162 has weird spacing: '...ocol-id    uin...'
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Line 207 has weird spacing: '...address    ine...'
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Line 215 has weird spacing: '...address    ine...'
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Line 238 has weird spacing: '...rvation    boo...'
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Line 261 has weird spacing: '...ocol-id    uin...'
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D (5 more instances...)
>>=20
>>  Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard
>>  =
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----
>>=20
>>     (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using normative
>> references
>>     to lower-maturity documents in RFCs)
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7753' is defined on line 1988, but no =
explicit
>>     reference was found in the text
>>=20
>>  =3D=3D Outdated reference: A later version (-04) exists of
>>     draft-boucadair-pcp-yang-03
>>=20
>>     Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 9 warnings (=3D=3D), 1 =
comment (--).
>>=20
>=20

Mahesh Jethanandani
mjethanandani@gmail.com


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Softwires WG of the IETF.

        Title           : IPv4 Multicast over an IPv6 Multicast in Softwire Mesh Network
        Authors         : Mingwei Xu
                          Yong Cui
                          Jianping Wu
                          Shu Yang
                          Chris Metz
                          Greg Shepherd
	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-multicast-19.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2017-11-15

Abstract:
   During IPv6 transition, there will be scenarios where a backbone
   network running one IP address family internally (referred to as
   internal IP or I-IP), while the attached client networks running
   another IP address family (referred to as external IP or E-IP).  The
   I-IP backbone should offer both unicast and multicast transit
   services to the client E-IP networks.

   This document describes the mechanism for supporting multicast across
   a set of E-IP and I-IP networks supporting softwire mesh.  The
   document focuses on IPv4-over-IPv6 scenario, due to lack of real-
   world use cases for IPv6-over-IPv4 scenario.


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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:50 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
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> Hi Mahesh,=20
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> Thank you for the feedback.=20
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> Please see inline.=20
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> Cheers,
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>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com =
<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>]
>> Envoy=C3=A9 : mardi 14 novembre 2017 23:59
>> =C3=80 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN
>> Cc : yang-doctors@ietf.org <mailto:yang-doctors@ietf.org>; =
softwires@ietf.org <mailto:softwires@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-softwire-
>> dslite-yang.all@ietf.org <mailto:dslite-yang.all@ietf.org>; NetMod WG =
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>> Objet : Re: Yangdoctors early review of =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02
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>> Mohamed,
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>> I realize that I am responding to an earlier thread than the one you =
asked
>> your question on, so let me address the question that you asked on =
that
>> thread first.
>>=20
>> Yes, the netmod tree diagrams draft is not an RFC, and yang-doctors =
do
>> recommend that authors of drafts with YANG module reference the =
netmod
>> tree diagram draft rather than cut and paste description of the tree
>> symbols into their drafts. To the question of whether that reference =
can
>> be informative or does it have to be normative, I would agree that it =
has
>> to be normative. I realize that might impact the publication of the =
draft,
>> so I am including the chairs of NETMOD WG(and one of the authors) to =
get
>> an idea of when they think the draft could be published as an RFC.
>>=20
>=20
> [Med] We need guidance how to proceed given that we do have two drafts =
in the softwire WG that are impacted (this one passed the WGLC, while =
the second one will be on the WGLC soon). BTW, an argument I heard =
recently is that the netmod document can be cited as informative given =
that the tree structure itself is not normative.=20

I did bring up the question yesterday in NETMOD, and yes the consensus =
in NETMOD is to move the tree diagram document from Standards Track to =
Informational, where it can then be cited as informational.

>=20
>> But before you rush into publication, I took another look at the -08
>> version of the draft, and I have additional concerns about the draft =
and
>> the YANG module in it, that I believe warrant another look.
>>=20
>> Minor comments
>>=20
>> - Please remove reference to chairs in the YANG module. All we =
recommend
>> are the authors/editors.
>=20
> [Med] Done.
>=20
>> - Please add a note for the RFC editor to replace =E2=80=9CRFC =
XXXX=E2=80=9D with the RFC
>> number when the draft is published.
>=20
> [Med] There is already this note in the draft:=20
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D
> Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)
>=20
>   Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned to
>   this document:
>=20
>   o  "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"
>=20
>   o  "RFC XXXX: YANG Data Modules for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";
>=20
>   o  "reference: RFC XXXX"=20
> =3D=3D=3D
>=20
>> - The indentations in the YANG module are still not consistent. =
Please fix
>> them.
>=20
> [Med] OK.
>=20
>>=20
>> Additional comments:
>> - The YANG module makes multiple references to subscriber-mask as a =
way to
>> uniquely identity a subscriber. That, as you say is derived from the =
NAT
>> module. But the NAT module has no subscriber-mask. It has =
subscriber-mask-
>> v6. Is that what you meant to refer to?
>=20
> [Med] Yes.=20

Please update the model/draft in that case.

>=20
> Does it mean you need a
>> subscriber-mask for v6 only?
>=20
> [Med] Yes. The two use cases for this mask are DS-Lite and NAT64, =
which involve IPv6 addresses.
>=20
> The NAT YANG modules includes the following:=20
>=20
>            "The subscriber mask is an integer that indicates
>             the length of significant bits to be applied on
>             the source IPv6 address (internal side) to
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>             unambiguously identify a user device (e.g., CPE).
>=20
>=20
>> - Also, you augment the NAT module at the node nat:policy. But =
subscriber-
>> mask-v6 is a child of nat:nat-policy.
>=20
> [Med] Is there any problem with this?=20

Yes. To the extent that you cannot augment a node that does not exist in =
the tree. What is more troubling to me is that you say none of the tools =
have caught it. In the output you show below, it is not clear which NAT =
module you are using, and where it was fetched from.

>=20
>> - And, nat:nat-policy is a list with a key of policy-id. But you have =
no
>> policy-id defined in your module. How do you reference the particular
>> nat:nat-policy without a key? Was this model compiled/validated =
against
>> the latest NAT module?
>=20
> [Med] This is derived from the nat:napt44, which is augmented with =
DS-Lite specifics.=20
>=20
> I confirm that the module was successfully validated:
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> xym 0.4:
> Extracting 'ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang =
<mailto:ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang>'
>   Removed 0 empty lines
> Extracting 'ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang =
<mailto:ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang>'
>   Removed 0 empty lines
>=20
>=20
> ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang =
<mailto:ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang>:
> pyang 1.7.3: pyang --verbose --ietf -p {libs} {model}:
> No validation errors
>=20
> yanglint 0.13.79: yanglint --verbose -p {rfclib} -p {draftlib} -p =
{tmplib} {model} -i:
> No validation errors
>=20
>=20
> ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang =
<mailto:ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang>:
> pyang 1.7.3: pyang --verbose --ietf -p {libs} {model}:
> No validation errors
>=20
> yanglint 0.13.79: yanglint --verbose -p {rfclib} -p {draftlib} -p =
{tmplib} {model} -i:
> No validation errors
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> I can add an explicit "when" statement that will look like:
>=20
>    when "/nat:nat/nat:instances/nat:instance/nat:type=3D'napt44'";
>=20
> This will require updating the NAT YANG module to specify explicitly a =
NAT Type.=20
>=20
>> - You augment nat:mapping-entry, which is also a list with a key of
>> =E2=80=98index=E2=80=99. Where are you deriving =E2=80=98index=E2=80=99=
 from?
>=20
> [Med] Idem as above.
>=20
>> - b4-ipv4-address has a default value of 192.0.0.2, and you have a =
note
>> that the mask is /29. Are all ipv4 addresses configured with /29 =
mask? If
>> not, how is netmask indicated to the device?
>=20
> [Med] This is about an IPv4 address. The mask is not required to be =
configured. This address can be picked from the /29 reserved block.=20
>=20
>>=20
>> See additional comments inline.
>>=20
>> Cheers.
>>=20
>>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:34 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Dear Mahesh,
>>>=20
>>> Thank you very much for the detailed review. Much appreciated.
>>>=20
>>> It seems that you reviewed -02 of the draft, while the latest =
version is
>> -06 =
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/).
>>>=20
>>> As you can see below, almost all the comments do not apply for -06.
>>>=20
>>> Please see inline.
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Med
>>>=20
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com]
>>>> Envoy=C3=A9 : samedi 7 octobre 2017 02:17
>>>> =C3=80 : yang-doctors@ietf.org
>>>> Cc : softwires@ietf.org; =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang.all@ietf.org;
>>>> ietf@ietf.org
>>>> Objet : Yangdoctors early review of =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02
>>>>=20
>>>> Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani
>>>> Review result: On the Right Track
>>>>=20
>>>> Document reviewed: draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02. Do not know =
why
>> I
>>>> was
>>>> assigned -02 version when I now notice that there are several 03
>> versions
>>>> submitted all the way up to -06.
>>>>=20
>>>> Status: On the Right Track.
>>>>=20
>>>> I am not an expert in DS-Lite. This review is looking at the draft =
from
>> a
>>>> YANG
>>>> perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn the =
Right Track=E2=80=9D
>>>> because
>>>> of some of the points discussed below. The authors are encouraged =
to
>> spend
>>>> time
>>>> looking at other models for examples on how to write the model, =
read
>>>> RFC6087,
>>>> Guidelines for YANG documents.
>>>>=20
>>>> Summary:
>>>>=20
>>>> This document defines a YANG data model for the DS-Lite Address =
Family
>>>> Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements =
.
>>>>=20
>>>> Overall Comments:
>>>>=20
>>>> The draft should refer to YANG 1.1 (RFC 7950) instead of RFC6020.
>>>=20
>>> [Med] Can fix this one.
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> The draft is not NMDA compliant. It carries a separate -state =
container
>>>> that
>>>> needs to be collapsed into one single container. For example, it
>> carries
>>>> containers such as aftr-current-config which seems to be carrying =
state
>>>> information for the leafs in dslite-config.
>>>=20
>>> [Med] There are no such containers in -06.
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Is it given that a server will implement both AFTR and B4?
>>> [Med] No.
>>>=20
>>> If not, then
>>>> please
>>>> define feature statements and use if-feature for each part (AFTR =
and
>> B4),
>>>> so
>>>> implementors can choose what part of the model is implemented.
>>=20
>> [mj] I do not see this comment addressed.
>=20
> [Med] This is easy to fix. Actually, I interpreted no follow-up from =
your side as having separate modules is also fine with you.=20

Features allow platforms to identify parts of the model that they are =
capable of supporting, while at the same time removing parts that are =
not supported. Platforms can deviate a model and say what they do not =
support parts of the model, but we usually reserve that for the case =
where there is no (hardware) support for a given feature.=20

Mahesh Jethanandani
mjethanandani@gmail.com


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class=3D"">Med,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">See =
inline.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
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inline !important;" class=3D"">Cheers,</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
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inline !important;" class=3D"">Med<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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0px;" class=3D"">-----Message d'origine-----<br class=3D"">De&nbsp;: =
Mahesh Jethanandani [<a href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com</a>]<br =
class=3D"">Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;: mardi 14 novembre 2017 23:59<br =
class=3D"">=C3=80&nbsp;: BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN<br =
class=3D"">Cc&nbsp;:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:yang-doctors@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">yang-doctors@ietf.org</a>;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:softwires@ietf.org" class=3D"">softwires@ietf.org</a>; =
draft-ietf-softwire-<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:dslite-yang.all@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">dslite-yang.all@ietf.org</a>; NetMod WG Chairs; Benoit =
Claise<br class=3D"">Objet&nbsp;: Re: Yangdoctors early review of =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Mohamed,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I realize that I am =
responding to an earlier thread than the one you asked<br class=3D"">your =
question on, so let me address the question that you asked on that<br =
class=3D"">thread first.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Yes, the netmod =
tree diagrams draft is not an RFC, and yang-doctors do<br =
class=3D"">recommend that authors of drafts with YANG module reference =
the netmod<br class=3D"">tree diagram draft rather than cut and paste =
description of the tree<br class=3D"">symbols into their drafts. To the =
question of whether that reference can<br class=3D"">be informative or =
does it have to be normative, I would agree that it has<br class=3D"">to =
be normative. I realize that might impact the publication of the =
draft,<br class=3D"">so I am including the chairs of NETMOD WG(and one =
of the authors) to get<br class=3D"">an idea of when they think the =
draft could be published as an RFC.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
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auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">[Med] We need guidance how to proceed given that =
we do have two drafts in the softwire WG that are impacted (this one =
passed the WGLC, while the second one will be on the WGLC soon). BTW, an =
argument I heard recently is that the netmod document can be cited as =
informative given that the tree structure itself is not normative.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>I did bring up the question yesterday in NETMOD, and =
yes the consensus in NETMOD is to move the tree diagram document from =
Standards Track to Informational, where it can then be cited as =
informational.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">But before you rush into publication, I took another look at =
the -08<br class=3D"">version of the draft, and I have additional =
concerns about the draft and<br class=3D"">the YANG module in it, that I =
believe warrant another look.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Minor =
comments<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">- Please remove reference to =
chairs in the YANG module. All we recommend<br class=3D"">are the =
authors/editors.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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inline !important;" class=3D"">[Med] Done.</span><br style=3D"font-family:=
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">- Please =
add a note for the RFC editor to replace =E2=80=9CRFC XXXX=E2=80=9D with =
the RFC<br class=3D"">number when the draft is published.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
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!important;" class=3D"">[Med] There is already this note in the =
draft:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
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inline !important;" class=3D"">=3D=3D=3D</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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inline !important;" class=3D"">Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC =
Editor)</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
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style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;Please =
update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned to</span><br =
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;this =
document:</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;o =
&nbsp;"This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;o &nbsp;"RFC XXXX: YANG Data =
Modules for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;o &nbsp;"reference: RFC XXXX"<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">=3D=3D=3D</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D"">- The indentations in the YANG module are still not =
consistent. Please fix<br class=3D"">them.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">[Med] OK.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Additional comments:<br class=3D"">- The =
YANG module makes multiple references to subscriber-mask as a way to<br =
class=3D"">uniquely identity a subscriber. That, as you say is derived =
from the NAT<br class=3D"">module. But the NAT module has no =
subscriber-mask. It has subscriber-mask-<br class=3D"">v6. Is that what =
you meant to refer to?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">[Med] Yes.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>Please update the model/draft in that =
case.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Does it mean you need a</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">subscriber-mask for v6 =
only?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">[Med] Yes. The two use cases for this =
mask are DS-Lite and NAT64, which involve IPv6 addresses.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">The NAT YANG modules includes the =
following:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"The subscriber mask is an integer that indicates</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;the length of significant bits to be applied on</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;the source IPv6 address (internal side) to</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;^^^^^^^^^^^^</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;unambiguously identify a user device (e.g., CPE).</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><blockquote=
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font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">- Also, =
you augment the NAT module at the node nat:policy. But subscriber-<br =
class=3D"">mask-v6 is a child of nat:nat-policy.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">[Med] Is there any problem with this?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>Yes. To the extent that you cannot augment a node that =
does not exist in the tree. What is more troubling to me is that you say =
none of the tools have caught it. In the output you show below, it is =
not clear which NAT module you are using, and where it was fetched =
from.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">- And, =
nat:nat-policy is a list with a key of policy-id. But you have no<br =
class=3D"">policy-id defined in your module. How do you reference the =
particular<br class=3D"">nat:nat-policy without a key? Was this model =
compiled/validated against<br class=3D"">the latest NAT module?<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">[Med] This is derived from the nat:napt44, which =
is augmented with DS-Lite specifics.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">I confirm that the module was =
successfully validated:</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">xym 0.4:</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Extracting =
'</span><a href=3D"mailto:ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang</a><span style=3D"font-family:=
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;Removed =
0 empty lines</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
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auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Extracting '</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D"">ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang</a><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;Removed 0 empty =
lines</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">ietf-dslite-b4@2017-11-13.yang</a><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">:</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">pyang 1.7.3: pyang =
--verbose --ietf -p {libs} {model}:</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">No validation errors</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">yanglint 0.13.79: yanglint --verbose -p =
{rfclib} -p {draftlib} -p {tmplib} {model} -i:</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">No validation =
errors</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">ietf-dslite-aftr@2017-11-14.yang</a><span style=3D"font-family:=
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normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">:</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">pyang 1.7.3: pyang =
--verbose --ietf -p {libs} {model}:</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">No validation errors</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">yanglint 0.13.79: yanglint --verbose -p =
{rfclib} -p {draftlib} -p {tmplib} {model} -i:</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">No validation =
errors</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">I can add an explicit "when" statement =
that will look like:</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
"/nat:nat/nat:instances/nat:instance/nat:type=3D'napt44'";</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">This will require updating the NAT YANG =
module to specify explicitly a NAT Type.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D"">- You augment nat:mapping-entry, which is also a list =
with a key of<br class=3D"">=E2=80=98index=E2=80=99. Where are you =
deriving =E2=80=98index=E2=80=99 from?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">[Med] Idem as =
above.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">- b4-ipv4-address has a =
default value of 192.0.0.2, and you have a note<br class=3D"">that the =
mask is /29. Are all ipv4 addresses configured with /29 mask? If<br =
class=3D"">not, how is netmask indicated to the device?<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">[Med] This is about an IPv4 address. The mask is =
not required to be configured. This address can be picked from the /29 =
reserved block.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">See additional comments inline.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:34 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" =
class=3D"">mohamed.boucadair@orange.com</a> wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Dear Mahesh,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thank you very much =
for the detailed review. Much appreciated.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">It=
 seems that you reviewed -02 of the draft, while the latest version =
is<br class=3D""></blockquote>-06 (<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/"=
 =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yan=
g/</a>).<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">As you can see below, almost all the comments do not apply =
for -06.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please see inline.<br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">Cheers,<br class=3D"">Med<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">-----Message =
d'origine-----<br class=3D"">De : Mahesh Jethanandani [<a =
href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com</a>]<br class=3D"">Envoy=C3=A9 =
: samedi 7 octobre 2017 02:17<br class=3D"">=C3=80 : <a =
href=3D"mailto:yang-doctors@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">yang-doctors@ietf.org</a><br class=3D"">Cc : <a =
href=3D"mailto:softwires@ietf.org" class=3D"">softwires@ietf.org</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang.all@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang.all@ietf.org</a>;<br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">ietf@ietf.org</a><br class=3D"">Objet : Yangdoctors early =
review of draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani<br class=3D"">Review result: On =
the Right Track<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Document reviewed: =
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02. Do not know why<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>I<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">was<br =
class=3D"">assigned -02 version when I now notice that there are several =
03<br class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>versions<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">submitted all the way up to -06.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Status: On the Right Track.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I am =
not an expert in DS-Lite. This review is looking at the draft from<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>a<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">YANG<br =
class=3D"">perspective. With that said, I have marked it as =E2=80=9COn =
the Right Track=E2=80=9D<br class=3D"">because<br class=3D"">of some of =
the points discussed below. The authors are encouraged to<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>spend<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">time<br =
class=3D"">looking at other models for examples on how to write the =
model, read<br class=3D"">RFC6087,<br class=3D"">Guidelines for YANG =
documents.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Summary:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">This document defines a YANG data model for the DS-Lite =
Address Family<br class=3D"">Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging =
BroadBand (B4) elements .<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Overall =
Comments:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The draft should refer to YANG =
1.1 (RFC 7950) instead of RFC6020.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">[Med] Can fix this one.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">The draft =
is not NMDA compliant. It carries a separate -state container<br =
class=3D"">that<br class=3D"">needs to be collapsed into one single =
container. For example, it<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>carries<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">containers =
such as aftr-current-config which seems to be carrying state<br =
class=3D"">information for the leafs in dslite-config.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">[Med] There are no such =
containers in -06.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Is it given that a server will implement both =
AFTR and B4?<br class=3D""></blockquote>[Med] No.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">If not, then<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"">please<br class=3D"">define feature statements and use =
if-feature for each part (AFTR and<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote>B4),<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">so<br =
class=3D"">implementors can choose what part of the model is =
implemented.<br class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=3D"">[mj] =
I do not see this comment addressed.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">[Med] This is easy =
to fix. Actually, I interpreted no follow-up from your side as having =
separate modules is also fine with you.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></div></blockquote><br=
 class=3D""></div><div>Features allow platforms to identify parts of the =
model that they are capable of supporting, while at the same time =
removing parts that are not supported. Platforms can deviate a model and =
say what they do not support parts of the model, but we usually reserve =
that for the case where there is no (hardware) support for a given =
feature.&nbsp;</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Mahesh Jethanandani</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mjethanandani@gmail.com</a></div>

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        Title           : Definitions of Managed Objects for MAP-E
        Authors         : Yu Fu
                          Sheng Jiang
                          Bing Liu
                          Jiang Dong
                          Yuchi Chen
	Filename        : draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-12.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2017-11-15

Abstract:
   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
   for Mapping Address and Port with encapsulation (MAP-E) for use with
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] Questions for authors of draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-11
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Hi Yong,

(7) Yes, I confirm that all appropriate IPR disclosures have already been
filed.
(8) No, not I'm aware of.


Cheers

Yu


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>To: Yu Fu
>Cc: Ian Farrer; softwires@ietf.org; draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib@ietf.org;
>Yuchi Chen; Dong Jiang
>Subject: Questions for authors of draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-11
>
>Hi, authors of draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-11,
>
>Before we submit this doc to IESG, we need to have the following answer
>from each of your authors.
>
>(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures
>required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79
>have already been filed. If not, explain why?
>
>(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so,
>summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR
>disclosures.
>
>BTW, if  there are any existing implementations of the protocol, please
>also send to the list.
>
>Additionally, there are two comments from nits.
>  == Unused Reference: 'RFC7598' is defined on line 627, but no explicit
>     reference was found in the text
>
>  -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 7749
>     (Obsoleted by RFC 7991)
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Yong




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Hi Dear chairs and all,

I confirm that I have no IPR related to this draft. And I'm not aware of an=
y IPR related.

B.R.
Bing Liu
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Subject: Questions for authors of draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-11

Hi, authors of draft-ietf-softwire-map-mib-11,

Before we submit this doc to IESG, we need to have the following answer fro=
m each of your authors.

(7) Has each author confirmed that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures =
required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have=
 already been filed. If not, explain why?

(8) Has an IPR disclosure been filed that references this document? If so, =
summarize any WG discussion and conclusion regarding the IPR disclosures.

BTW, if  there are any existing implementations of the protocol, please als=
o send to the list.

Additionally, there are two comments from nits.=20
  =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'RFC7598' is defined on line 627, but no explici=
t
     reference was found in the text

  -- Obsolete informational reference (is this intentional?): RFC 7749
     (Obsoleted by RFC 7991)



Cheers,

Yong




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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)
        Authors         : Mohamed Boucadair
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Senthil Sivakumar
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	Date            : 2017-11-17

Abstract:
   This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address Family
   Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements.

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                          Christian Jacquenet
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02
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Mo,

As discussed in NETMOD, the intented status for 
draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams should be Informational and 
therefore the reference informative.

Regards, B.
> Mohamed,
>
> I realize that I am responding to an earlier thread than the one you asked your question on, so let me address the question that you asked on that thread first.
>
> Yes, the netmod tree diagrams draft is not an RFC, and yang-doctors do recommend that authors of drafts with YANG module reference the netmod tree diagram draft rather than cut and paste description of the tree symbols into their drafts. To the question of whether that reference can be informative or does it have to be normative, I would agree that it has to be normative. I realize that might impact the publication of the draft, so I am including the chairs of NETMOD WG(and one of the authors) to get an idea of when they think the draft could be published as an RFC.
>
> But before you rush into publication, I took another look at the -08 version of the draft, and I have additional concerns about the draft and the YANG module in it, that I believe warrant another look.
>
> Minor comments
>
> - Please remove reference to chairs in the YANG module. All we recommend are the authors/editors.
> - Please add a note for the RFC editor to replace “RFC XXXX” with the RFC number when the draft is published.
> - The indentations in the YANG module are still not consistent. Please fix them.
>
> Additional comments:
> - The YANG module makes multiple references to subscriber-mask as a way to uniquely identity a subscriber. That, as you say is derived from the NAT module. But the NAT module has no subscriber-mask. It has subscriber-mask-v6. Is that what you meant to refer to? Does it mean you need a subscriber-mask for v6 only?
> - Also, you augment the NAT module at the node nat:policy. But subscriber-mask-v6 is a child of nat:nat-policy.
> - And, nat:nat-policy is a list with a key of policy-id. But you have no policy-id defined in your module. How do you reference the particular nat:nat-policy without a key? Was this model compiled/validated against the latest NAT module?
> - You augment nat:mapping-entry, which is also a list with a key of ‘index’. Where are you deriving ‘index’ from?
> - b4-ipv4-address has a default value of 192.0.0.2, and you have a note that the mask is /29. Are all ipv4 addresses configured with /29 mask? If not, how is netmask indicated to the device?
>
> See additional comments inline.
>
> Cheers.
>
>> On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:34 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mahesh,
>>
>> Thank you very much for the detailed review. Much appreciated.
>>
>> It seems that you reviewed -02 of the draft, while the latest version is -06 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/).
>>
>> As you can see below, almost all the comments do not apply for -06.
>>
>> Please see inline.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Med
>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : Mahesh Jethanandani [mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com]
>>> Envoyé : samedi 7 octobre 2017 02:17
>>> À : yang-doctors@ietf.org
>>> Cc : softwires@ietf.org; draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang.all@ietf.org;
>>> ietf@ietf.org
>>> Objet : Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02
>>>
>>> Reviewer: Mahesh Jethanandani
>>> Review result: On the Right Track
>>>
>>> Document reviewed: draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-02. Do not know why I
>>> was
>>> assigned -02 version when I now notice that there are several 03 versions
>>> submitted all the way up to -06.
>>>
>>> Status: On the Right Track.
>>>
>>> I am not an expert in DS-Lite. This review is looking at the draft from a
>>> YANG
>>> perspective. With that said, I have marked it as “On the Right Track”
>>> because
>>> of some of the points discussed below. The authors are encouraged to spend
>>> time
>>> looking at other models for examples on how to write the model, read
>>> RFC6087,
>>> Guidelines for YANG documents.
>>>
>>> Summary:
>>>
>>> This document defines a YANG data model for the DS-Lite Address Family
>>> Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements .
>>>
>>> Overall Comments:
>>>
>>> The draft should refer to YANG 1.1 (RFC 7950) instead of RFC6020.
>> [Med] Can fix this one.
>>
>>> The draft is not NMDA compliant. It carries a separate -state container
>>> that
>>> needs to be collapsed into one single container. For example, it carries
>>> containers such as aftr-current-config which seems to be carrying state
>>> information for the leafs in dslite-config.
>> [Med] There are no such containers in -06.
>>
>>> Is it given that a server will implement both AFTR and B4?
>> [Med] No.
>>
>> If not, then
>>> please
>>> define feature statements and use if-feature for each part (AFTR and B4),
>>> so
>>> implementors can choose what part of the model is implemented.
> [mj] I do not see this comment addressed.
>
>>> Section 1.1 Terminology
>>>
>>> What terms are defined in RFC 6333 that are being used in this draft.
>>> Please be
>>> explicit.
>> [Med] Actually, all the terms defined in Section 3 of RFC 6333 are used in this document. I added an explicit pointer to Section 3.
>>
>>> Section 1.2 Tree Diagram
>>>
>>> Please refer to
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-01
>>> instead of
>>> defining the nomenclature for tree diagram in the document.
>> [Med] Done. Thanks.
>>
>>> Section 2.
>>>
>>> s/can:/can
>> [Med] There is no such occurrence in -06.
>>
>>> s/provisioned to the AFTR/provisioned on the AFTR/
>> [Med] There is no such occurrence in -06.
>>
>>> The document is very light in the architectural description of the YANG
>>> model
>>> itself. Statements like “model supports enabling one or more instances of
>>> the
>>> AFTR function on a device” are obvious looking at the model. A more
>>> reasonable
>>> description would be why multiple instances need to be supported. The same
>>> is
>>> true for “AFTR instance”. The fact that the instance has been defined as a
>>> list
>>> assure that each instance can be provisioned with dedicated configuration
>>> data,
>>> and maintain its own data table. Again why the multiple instances need to
>>> be
>>> maintained, what purpose do they serve, and the fact that they maintain
>>> their
>>> own data table is not clear.
>>>
>>> The document “assumes [RFC4787] [RFC5382][RFC 5508] are enabled”. What
>>> particular aspects of those documents is the draft assuming? Note, RFC4787
>>> is
>>> NAT Behavioral Requirements for Unicast UDP, and outlines some seven
>>> behaviors,
>>> all the way from NAT and Port Translation, Filtering, Hairpinning to
>>> Fragmentation of Outgoing Packets. Even if all the behaviors are assumed,
>>> it
>>> would be good to know how they impact this particular model.
>> [Med] What it meant is that all the recommendations are supported + all recommended values are the ones defined in those RFCs.
>>
>>> Section 3
>>>
>>> General Comments.
>>>
>>> Please follow [RFC6087], Guidelines for YANG documents, on how to write a
>>> YANG
>>> model. For example, the organization in the model should be IETF Softwire
>>> WG,
>>> not just Softwire WG.
>>>
>>> The indentation in the model is off in a few places (reference is a
>>> keyword
>>> that should be at the same indentation as description in all revision
>>> statements). Most models follow an indentation of 2 characters for every
>>> subsequent depth in the model. I see anywhere between 2 to 10 characters
>>> of
>>> indentation.
>>>
>> [Med] Will double check. Thanks.
> [mj] As mentioned above, the model still has indentation issues.
>
>>
>>> As far as naming conventions go, there is little value repeating names in
>>> a
>>> given hierarchy. For example, if the grouping is aftr-parameters, then it
>>> is a
>>> given that parameters inside the grouping are aftr parameters. No need to
>>> say
>>> dslite-aftr-ipv6-address, where both dslite and aftr are redundant.
>>>
>> [Med] Please note that this does not apply for -06.
>>
>>> There is little or no use of must statements to qualify the configuration.
>>> I am
>>> not an expert at DS-Lite, so I cannot suggest where a must statement may
>>> be
>>> helpful to have. But with all the parameters that are optional, there must
>>> be
>>> some relationship between the attributes that could be captured with must
>>> statements. For example, for the leaf max-softwire-per-subscriber, the
>>> leaf is
>>> trying to prevent a misbehaving subscriber. Could that behavior be somehow
>>> captured with a must statement for the resources it can/cannot consume. Or
>>> with
>>> port-presevation-enable and port-parity-preservation-enable? Is there a
>>> relationship between the two variables that could be captured in the
>>> model?
>>>
>>> All references to RFC should be moved under a reference section.
>> [Med] Please check -06. All references are under a reference section.
>>
>>
>> For
>>> example:
>>> OLD:
>>>       leaf udp-lifetime {
>>>           type uint32;
>>>           units "seconds";
>>>           default 120;
>>>           description
>>>               "UDP inactivity timeout [RFC4787].";
>>>       }
>>> NEW:
>>>       leaf udp-lifetime {
>>>           type uint32;
>>>           units "seconds";
>>>           default 120;
>>>           description
>>>               "UDP inactivity timeout.“;
>>>           reference
>>>             “[RFC4787].”;
>>>       }
>>>
>>> A note should be prepared for the RFC editor to indicate what revision the
>>> model should finally carry, and what the description/reference statement
>>> in the
>>> model should look like when the document is finally published. See
>>> examples in
>>> other drafts such as draft-ietf-netconf-zerotouch Editorial Note on what
>>> to add.
>>>
>>> Specific Comments
>>>
>>> The name of the file in the line with <CODE BEGINS> is missing the .yang
>>> suffix
>>> in the file. When extracted, the extracted file will be missing the
>>> suffix.
>>> Please add it. This leads to the following error from yanglint.
>> [Med] This was fixed in previous version.
>>
>>> ietf-dslite@2017-01-03" without file extension - unknown format.
>>>
>>> In grouping port-number, could the port-range be something as simple as
>>>
>>> container port-number {
>>>   must “starting-port”;
>>>   leaf starting-port {
>>>     type inet:port-number;
>>>   }
>>>   leaf ending-port {
>>>     type inet:port-number;
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> where if there is no ending-port it is deemed to be a single port, but if
>>> there
>>> is a ending-port is considered to be a range?
>> [Med] This does not apply for -06.
>>
>>> The list transport-protocol has one leaf which is the transport-protocol-
>>> id.
>>> Why does the single leaf, which is the key, need to be inside a list?
>> [Med] Idem as above.
>>
>>> Logging-info has a choice statement for protocol. Is it that there can be
>>> only
>>> one choice for the form of logging? Could it be possible that users might
>>> want
>>> to enable both syslog and ipfix?
>> [Med] Idem as above.
>>
>>> A pyang compilation of the model with —ietf and —lint option was clean.
>>>
>>> A idnits run of the draft reveals some issues with spacing and references.
>>> The
>>> one related to spacing are parts of the diagram, which confuses idnits.
>> [Med] Will double check those. Thanks.
>>
>>> Checking nits according to https://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :
>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>>
>>>   ** There are 5 instances of too long lines in the document, the longest
>>> one
>>>      being 3 characters in excess of 72.
>>>
>>>   == There are 2 instances of lines with non-RFC6890-compliant IPv4
>>> addresses
>>>      in the document.  If these are example addresses, they should be
>>> changed.
>>>
>>>   Miscellaneous warnings:
>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>>
>>>   == Line 162 has weird spacing: '...ocol-id    uin...'
>>>
>>>   == Line 207 has weird spacing: '...address    ine...'
>>>
>>>   == Line 215 has weird spacing: '...address    ine...'
>>>
>>>   == Line 238 has weird spacing: '...rvation    boo...'
>>>
>>>   == Line 261 has weird spacing: '...ocol-id    uin...'
>>>
>>>   == (5 more instances...)
>>>
>>>   Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard
>>>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>>
>>>      (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about using normative
>>> references
>>>      to lower-maturity documents in RFCs)
>>>
>>>   == Unused Reference: 'RFC7753' is defined on line 1988, but no explicit
>>>      reference was found in the text
>>>
>>>   == Outdated reference: A later version (-04) exists of
>>>      draft-boucadair-pcp-yang-03
>>>
>>>      Summary: 1 error (**), 0 flaws (~~), 9 warnings (==), 1 comment (--).
>>>
> Mahesh Jethanandani
> mjethanandani@gmail.com
>
> .
>

