From hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net Wed Dec 25 06:06:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8ED81AE28B for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:06:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P0rv2sMPYhbp for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3F91AE28E for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 06:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.254.200] ([80.92.123.96]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MXDo1-1W1Va42461-00WGUc for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:06:29 +0100 Message-ID: <52BAE676.3070000@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:06:46 +0100 From: Hannes Tschofenig User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: solace@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:L2a30dx8XdpXp91dgawDdevZSPPrCKFRhlz5+0GKThNnJaHEyrW eC4iaiwUgRxwViEUcKMBIxWrOzd7FNSsDCMfnBTnxoZtiyIx7t/OlOgwSt1H0VG2rbZLAlz j4Fas7qodEvHWLy8h1Q0sDlxtn2iJC0iA+2JaPeCDKZvk4uGyRlP9Ndal+Yui5plb/1RM8a +E0cOwk+c6opXN8c+TajA== Cc: hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net Subject: [solace] Status of solace? X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:06:36 -0000 Hi all, I am wondering what the status of Solace (see https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace) is. No new messages since March this year. Ciao Hannes From mcr@sandelman.ca Wed Dec 25 11:27:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3491ADFE2 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 11:27:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.009 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aSJKRzDbKyrs for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 11:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82911ADFB7 for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 11:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (desk.marajade.sandelman.ca [209.87.252.247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59F820033; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 0BA8B647D0; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED27B63B88; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:27:15 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Hannes Tschofenig In-Reply-To: <52BAE676.3070000@gmx.net> References: <52BAE676.3070000@gmx.net> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Cc: solace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [solace] Status of solace? X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 19:27:38 -0000 Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > I am wondering what the status of Solace (see > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace) is. No new messages since March > this year. I think it has little purpose, and 100% overlap with ACE. From cabo@tzi.org Wed Dec 25 22:17:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239AA1AE16F for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iczrep9GHIEC for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006421AE15B for ; Wed, 25 Dec 2013 22:17:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id rBQ6HCne015100; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:17:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.105] (p5489053C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.137.5.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEAE4608; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:17:11 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <31520.1387999635@sandelman.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:17:10 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <38795453-B168-4C8B-9F00-F9E495B60743@tzi.org> References: <52BAE676.3070000@gmx.net> <31520.1387999635@sandelman.ca> To: Michael Richardson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: Hannes Tschofenig , solace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [solace] Status of solace? X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 06:17:26 -0000 On 25 Dec 2013, at 20:27, Michael Richardson wrote: >=20 > Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> I am wondering what the status of Solace (see >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace) is. No new messages = since March >> this year. >=20 > I think it has little purpose, and 100% overlap with ACE. As should be obvious from the names, ACE is half of SOLACE. More seriously, if we do ACE right, it will cover much of the = low-hanging fruit of SOLACE. Over time, it can evolve to cover the rest that is achievable. Sp the subscribers of this list should definitely have a look over at = ACE: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/core/trac/wiki/ACE_charter as well as the drafts linked from there. Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From mcr@sandelman.ca Thu Dec 26 07:38:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: solace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C451ADF60 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:38:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.009 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ed9g8DBWvKQM for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (unknown [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB6B1ADF6A for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandelman.ca (desk.marajade.sandelman.ca [209.87.252.247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BB220041; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:52:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 39A07647D0; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C9F63B88; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 10:38:18 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <38795453-B168-4C8B-9F00-F9E495B60743@tzi.org> References: <52BAE676.3070000@gmx.net> <31520.1387999635@sandelman.ca> <38795453-B168-4C8B-9F00-F9E495B60743@tzi.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Cc: Hannes Tschofenig , solace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [solace] Status of solace? X-BeenThere: solace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Smart Object Lifecycle Architecture for Constrained Environments\" discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 15:38:26 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carsten Bormann wrote: >> Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >>> I am wondering what the status of Solace (see >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/solace) is. No new messages >>> since March this year. >>=20 >> I think it has little purpose, and 100% overlap with ACE. > As should be obvious from the names, ACE is half of SOLACE. Ha, I didn't notice that. Very nice. =2D-=20 ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh network= s [=20 ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect= [=20 ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails = [=20 =09 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBUrxNaYqHRg3pndX9AQInAgQAl9OtcHTAcO7XPEHWKIQxs+ERG5ZNTASa Y/5rkvPqvdpdINVA1cHmOy2WSf7nnX3vFQ/kHmApyMrTasg/xONyyUd5NaHPqGr6 jb0B0DwnnFvEAnJE+Ycvs+DCMtOrm+3YPTVMx0awYI5cslSH0d3Uy+iA18yA8ioh 1EMu3pUheWs= =jN2V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--