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We just released a new version of the voip-usecases draft. Given the
comments in IETF71, we made the following changes:

1. Separated LUF/LRF provider and I-SSP
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We also re-arranged the sections to make the draft more logical.
Comments are always welcome.

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In speaking with Yiu, sounds like this doc is getting close.  I believe
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> We just released a new version of the voip-usecases draft. 
> Given the comments in IETF71, we made the following changes:
> 
> 1. Separated LUF/LRF provider and I-SSP
> 2. Added sample protocol messages for two use cases 3. 
> Addressed the MS-Word template issues 4. Removed the 
> hub-and-spoke use case 5. Updated all diagrams to reflect the 
> changes 6. Cleanup the terms following the terms defined in 
> term-draft-16
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> We also re-arranged the sections to make the draft more logical.
> Comments are always welcome.
> 
> Thanks,
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> draft-ietf-speermint-voip-consolidated-usecases-06.txt
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I am curious.

This is a use case document listing "current" deployment use cases yet  
a comment like "removed the hub-and-spoke use case" goes unchallenged.

Did I miss something?

D.

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 > wrote:

> In speaking with Yiu, sounds like this doc is getting close.  I  
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> Thanks
> Jason
>
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>> I-DAction:draft-ietf-speermint-voip-consolidated-usecases-06.txt
>>
>> We just released a new version of the voip-usecases draft.
>> Given the comments in IETF71, we made the following changes:
>>
>> 1. Separated LUF/LRF provider and I-SSP
>> 2. Added sample protocol messages for two use cases 3.
>> Addressed the MS-Word template issues 4. Removed the
>> hub-and-spoke use case 5. Updated all diagrams to reflect the
>> changes 6. Cleanup the terms following the terms defined in
>> term-draft-16
>>
>> We also re-arranged the sections to make the draft more logical.
>> Comments are always welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yiu
>>
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>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Session PEERing for
>> Multimedia INTerconnect Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>>
>>    Title           : VoIP SIP Peering Use Cases
>>    Author(s)       : A. Uzelac, Y. Lee
>>    Filename        :
>> draft-ietf-speermint-voip-consolidated-usecases-06.txt
>>    Pages           : 26
>>    Date            : 2008-04-10
>>
>> This document depicts many common VoIP use case for SIP Peering.
>> These use cases are categorized into static and on-demand,
>> and then further sub-categorized into direct and indirect.
>> These use cases are not an exhaustive set, but rather the
>> most common use cases deployed today.  This document captures
>> them to provide a reference.
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-speermint-voip-
>> consolidat
>> ed-usecases-06.txt
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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We removed hub-and-spoke use case because this is captured in the
"Static Direct Peering Use Case - Assisted LUF and LRF" and "Static
Indirect Peering Use Case - Assisted LUF and LRF".

Thanks,
Yiu 

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I am curious.

This is a use case document listing "current" deployment use cases yet a
comment like "removed the hub-and-spoke use case" goes unchallenged.

Did I miss something?

D.

On Apr 16, 2008, at 6:25 PM, "Livingood, Jason"
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> In speaking with Yiu, sounds like this doc is getting close.  I 
> believe you expect some minor errors to be corrected in a -07 and that

> should come out very soon.  In the meantime, folks on the list can 
> review -06 and comment on that.  I believe we are likely to issue WGLC

> as soon as
> -07 is posted.
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> Jason
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>> We just released a new version of the voip-usecases draft.
>> Given the comments in IETF71, we made the following changes:
>>
>> 1. Separated LUF/LRF provider and I-SSP 2. Added sample protocol 
>> messages for two use cases 3.
>> Addressed the MS-Word template issues 4. Removed the hub-and-spoke 
>> use case 5. Updated all diagrams to reflect the changes 6. Cleanup 
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>> We also re-arranged the sections to make the draft more logical.
>> Comments are always welcome.
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>> Thanks,
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>>    Title           : VoIP SIP Peering Use Cases
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Hi,

The last sentence of Section 3
  "It MUST NOT specify the port"

any one can tell me why?

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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>The last sentence of Section 3 </div>
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Hi,

The last sentence of Section 3
  "It MUST NOT specify the port"

any one can tell me why?

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Hi,<br>&nbsp;<br>The last sentence of Section 3 <br>&nbsp; &quot;It MUST NOT specify the port&quot;<br>&nbsp;<br>any one can tell me why?

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